1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,430 47, we do have a quorum. Um, yes, thank you for starting recording Amy. 2 00:00:05,430 --> 00:00:12,419 And I'll call this a regular meeting of the Seattle public library board of trustees to order. 3 00:00:12,419 --> 00:00:22,800 Before we get to approval of the agenda, we do actually have a change. There's the social services team update that was under the chief librarians report. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,910 That's actually being postponed, so we're going to strike that item item from the agenda. 5 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:36,420 If there aren't any additional changes, I will entertain a motion to approve. 6 00:00:36,420 --> 00:00:40,800 As amended so moved 2nd. 7 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,540 All right, all in favor aye, all the agenda Thank you. 8 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:51,720 Um, public comments, um, oh, here comes tally. Great. 9 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:59,460 Um, Amy, or I should say we are currently accepting public comment via email. 10 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:04,920 Amy, is there any public comment? There is no public comment this month. 11 00:01:05,005 --> 00:01:16,945 Okay, so next item before we get to the chief library report is the consent agenda. We do have the minutes from our January meeting as well as the year end for 2022 financial report. 12 00:01:16,945 --> 00:01:23,605 Um, if there aren't any changes, I will share a motion to approve. a motion to approve 13 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:26,730 The consent agenda also, so moved. 14 00:01:26,730 --> 00:01:32,160 2nd, all those in favor, say I, or raise your hand. 15 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,220 Hi, right. 16 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:39,150 Thank you thank you tally. 17 00:01:39,150 --> 00:01:48,660 All right, those items are out of the way Tom, your chief, labor and report and system report. 18 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:57,300 Great great, thank you. I'm going to actually see most of my time for our system's report today, since it's on the future of libraries. 19 00:01:57,300 --> 00:02:11,790 I just wanted to point out, um, a couple of things keeping on that future kind of mindset. We, um, I did spend time, uh, at the University of Washington, high school, and the class of the future of libraries that course, is taught by. 20 00:02:11,790 --> 00:02:18,240 Former employee and a colleague of mine tangent spent time with students going over. 21 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:28,765 Some of the work we're doing, obviously our report wasn't done, so I couldn't share all of that, but I could share the process and some of the the findings were we had at that time. So that was a a good day for me. 22 00:02:28,765 --> 00:02:40,555 It's always great to talk to the students who also a couple of them actually had an interest in public libraries as well. So always good to see who might be out there that we could be hiring. So that was a positive the other 1. 23 00:02:40,555 --> 00:02:45,595 I wanted to point out that also is looking at both present and future as we hosted the. 24 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:56,940 Statewide directors, Washington, public library directors group at Central. It is the 1st time that we've ever had that at Central. It's usually in a kind of a neutral area. 25 00:02:56,940 --> 00:03:04,260 Uh, we haven't been Spokane back in September, and they are moving it around, uh, throughout the state. So we were happy and proud to host that. 26 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:17,485 The team of course, did a great job manage in the space and the technology so that those that were had to attend remotely could do so we were able to test out some of our new hybrid technologies for conferencing, speaking of the future. 27 00:03:17,485 --> 00:03:19,855 So that was a good thing and it proved itself. Well. 28 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:31,470 As we move through it, um, we also just to keep the rolling rolling on the future side of things. We had our strategic planning consultant. Um. 29 00:03:31,470 --> 00:03:37,290 Meeting our initial 1 with them a 4 hour discovery session on the 6th of February. 30 00:03:37,290 --> 00:03:46,290 And that went very well went very well. I'll open it up. If there's any questions for any of that or any of the other items on. 31 00:03:46,290 --> 00:03:59,790 The chief librarians report. All right and just 1 note on the, uh, rest of the report. Uh. 32 00:03:59,790 --> 00:04:10,650 Jay had asked for inter, library loan statistics that is included in your report. So we'll give you an idea of how we're doing with that. What the numbers look like. 33 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:16,410 If you have any questions about that, please do let me know and we can get you additional information if needed. 34 00:04:16,410 --> 00:04:24,240 And if there are no questions, then what I would like to do, and I hope we have them here. Um, Amy, I can't see much. Um. 35 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,449 I'd like to turn this over to Andy Heinz to talk about our future and libraries and our foresight work. 36 00:04:30,449 --> 00:04:37,829 And where we're where we're at, we are have been wrapping it up and doing some final edits and Andy's here to. 37 00:04:37,829 --> 00:04:45,059 Run us through where we're at, with this process. Are you there, Andy? I'm here. 38 00:04:45,059 --> 00:04:48,299 Here you are about to share my screen. 39 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:09,774 Well, thanks, Tom, I really appreciate the opportunity to share with you all about some insights that we got from our several month long project on the future of libraries that we completed roughly last month. So let's sorry. 40 00:05:10,254 --> 00:05:10,944 Oh, boy. 41 00:05:11,969 --> 00:05:19,169 I'm going to start with some key takeaways and really focus on key takeaways from the project. 42 00:05:19,169 --> 00:05:27,269 And then I'll talk a little bit at the end about, like, how we got to those, but we don't want to focus. Like, what do we get out of this? And. 43 00:05:27,269 --> 00:05:39,419 I mean, our goal was to feed the strategic planning activity. So that was our thought, how do we help that strategic planning guy could activity um, the best way possible. 44 00:05:39,419 --> 00:05:50,489 Thing we do is we create a mental model among participants about the future. So when you ask people, what does the future look like we hope that the information that pops into people's head is different. 45 00:05:50,489 --> 00:06:01,169 And it was before we did the project, um, and in a sense, as we go through all the various activities to develop our view of the future, we also, in a sense, we're rehearsing. 46 00:06:01,169 --> 00:06:06,299 We're saying if this future happened, what might we do? So it's kind of it's practice. 47 00:06:06,299 --> 00:06:17,729 We all know the practice makes perfect. So this 1st takeaway is that is literally created, you know, what's that mental model of or image of what the future might look like and there are possibilities. 48 00:06:18,894 --> 00:06:32,814 You see, we, we organized, we did a 10 year, look into the future, and we, we typically use the 3 horizons model to organize that timeframe. And we say the 1st horizon is the current system. 49 00:06:33,294 --> 00:06:47,544 How does the current how does the library? How do the libraries currently work? Horizon? 2 is a zone of transition where we start to see change and we start to see change taking place. Horizon. 3 is the seeds if not the actual. 50 00:06:47,729 --> 00:06:49,619 The system starting to emerge. 51 00:06:50,909 --> 00:06:58,164 And 1 way you might think of this is almost like a horse race. Now, I'm assuming that you're reading the little blurbs about each scenario. 52 00:06:58,164 --> 00:07:07,224 But if if I can walk you through, how we think of it in a horse race, all the scenarios are in the starting gate together in the beginning. So to speak. 53 00:07:07,499 --> 00:07:22,199 But horizon 1 leaves out of the gate. 1st, so the horizon 1. uh, sorry. Um, let me put the names of the scenarios that are part of the horizon 1 scenario, which we call not enough. That's fast out of the gate. 54 00:07:23,369 --> 00:07:33,419 And it may lead the pack for quite a while, but eventually over the course of our 10 year timeframe, it's going to start to feed. It's not going to start. It's not going to fit as well with. 55 00:07:33,419 --> 00:07:38,549 The emerging future so what happens is horizon 2 scenarios. 56 00:07:38,549 --> 00:07:46,739 If you will start to gain on the baseline and eventually pass it now, a very interesting thing that we've spent a lot of time ruffling. 57 00:07:46,739 --> 00:07:51,359 That transition could be rocky and we call that the collapsed future. 58 00:07:51,359 --> 00:07:55,139 Dysfunction might be a better word, but color. 59 00:07:55,139 --> 00:08:05,519 And by, by putting that down on paper, it gives us a way to say. All right, we don't want this to happen. What can we do right now? And the present to do our best to avoid that future? 60 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:16,139 Is what it might look like. Okay, so the other, the other sort of transition, uh, typical transition scenario is we call it new equilibrium. It's, it's a gradual approach. 61 00:08:18,029 --> 00:08:33,024 And then at the end of the race now, in the beginning, the 3, uh, we have 2 to 3 different kinds of scenarios, we call 2 versions of transformation and a 3rd 1. we called the preferred future, right? They're lagging behind in the early going. 62 00:08:33,024 --> 00:08:41,694 But, over time, they're starting to gain strength or starting to gain strength. Right? And of course, by naming a preferred future, the team has said, this is what we would hope. 63 00:08:42,029 --> 00:08:45,539 This is our, this is what we would hope we would get to. 64 00:08:46,524 --> 00:08:52,164 Now, so that's kind of the landscape and I'll talk a little bit more, uh, in just a 2nd, about some of the details. 65 00:08:52,164 --> 00:09:05,514 But I think 1 of 1 of our jobs is the future is knowing that we're again, we're setting up the strategic planning activity, is we, we, our job is to poke into prod. It's a stretch stretch the team to think differently. 66 00:09:05,849 --> 00:09:10,379 How might the future be different and sometimes radically different? 67 00:09:10,674 --> 00:09:23,724 And so we considered some radically different ideas, but then as a team, we came together and said all right you know, here's our if you will our best, plausible guess. And I think it was really interesting to us. 68 00:09:23,724 --> 00:09:31,254 So, we do we do a lot of work with folks who are relatively new to the foresight game and what we were really surprised is how well aligned. 69 00:09:31,589 --> 00:09:43,559 This team already is which speaks to me of the leadership that's that's been going on. Before we got here. We tried to. In other words, we tried to make them, but we found that, you know. 70 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:57,419 While we did see a spirit of considering differences we did see at the end that there was a fair degree, not not 100, not agreed on everything, but there was a pretty strong sense of alignment and that we, and our experience is a little unusual. So. 71 00:09:57,419 --> 00:10:06,989 Kudos on that front. The 2nd key takeaway was all right so this idea of a preferred future now, we say a preferred future. 72 00:10:06,989 --> 00:10:13,199 Doesn't mean, you know, we say it's not buddies in rainbows and everything. It's the preferred plausible future. 73 00:10:14,154 --> 00:10:28,914 And we did a lot of work to decide, you know, to determine what we thought was plausible. So, this is definitely working within that constraint of it's not just, you know, what happens if everything goes right? It's like, what is a pretty plausible guiding future that we could kind of aim at. 74 00:10:29,004 --> 00:10:31,464 It's an aspirational future visionary future. 75 00:10:33,204 --> 00:10:47,994 Now, remember, I mentioned that there's this transition, so well, 1 of the ideas we played with, in that new equilibrium scenario, we called it the, the, the library of things where we really were the team for various reasons, ends up. 76 00:10:48,509 --> 00:10:55,769 There was a scenario in which the library gets deeply involved in actually providing social services. 77 00:10:57,779 --> 00:11:02,489 And we just we explored what that looked like and thought about it considered it. 78 00:11:02,489 --> 00:11:11,579 And then in the preferred future, I think we got our answer and the saying, well, you know, we really don't necessarily want to be providing these things. But what can we do. 79 00:11:11,579 --> 00:11:25,409 We can be the anchor. We're good at managing information. That's our specialty. We're good at developing partnerships. We're really good. And so they really, it's a, it's more of a hub role where, um. 80 00:11:25,409 --> 00:11:36,779 The job of a key job of the library system is to get, you know, get get the right information to the right people at the right time. So it's more of a coordinating information a role. 81 00:11:36,804 --> 00:11:51,084 As opposed to, and actually providing the services ourselves, so that's, you know, so this, this whole idea of looking at a landscape, it gives us some ways to play with different things that might happen. Say I know we rehearse that. We don't want this 1. 82 00:11:51,324 --> 00:11:52,104 we like this 1. 83 00:11:54,479 --> 00:11:57,629 I think the other thing I would say about the, um. 84 00:11:57,629 --> 00:12:11,274 This preferred future you remember, you noticed that it was, it was in, between what we call 2 transformation futures right? So, in other words, we thought of 3 versions of the emerging new library system and again we saw that. 85 00:12:11,274 --> 00:12:24,924 There was a lot of commonality and again we poked in product, but we came back to a fair degree of alignment around what those. So those 3 scenarios really are different more and kind and emphasis than 3 really different things. 86 00:12:26,549 --> 00:12:32,639 And I say that, because again, in in our experience, sometimes those futures are really different. 87 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:39,509 So it was yeah, again, the, the, the, the, the difference here, I think is. 88 00:12:39,509 --> 00:12:47,999 Is is, you know, interesting and useful but again, we just thought that that the, that alignment was quite, uh, quite notable. 89 00:12:48,414 --> 00:12:58,074 All right what else did we find? So, another thing we do after we've created our scenarios, we step back and say all right what are they telling us? What are the themes here? What are we seeing? 90 00:12:58,644 --> 00:13:07,104 And again, this does not always happen, but in this case, we saw that there was a, if you will a common core now, we ended up calling the Super 7. 91 00:13:08,394 --> 00:13:17,634 and what it said is no matter which scenario is as we crafted each of these scenarios individually. And we had different teams working on it our team certainly. 92 00:13:17,999 --> 00:13:21,209 Polish them up afterwards, but we saw it no matter what. 93 00:13:21,209 --> 00:13:24,389 In all these different scenarios, these 7 issues will pop in. 94 00:13:25,589 --> 00:13:31,799 Which way the future unfolds. In other words, we need to have a viewpoint on these different. 95 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:41,849 Um, 7 issues now, let, I'll show you some details here. Oh, sorry. Again, the, the titles. Um, so you can see how how we kind of characterize those. 96 00:13:41,849 --> 00:13:54,839 And that doesn't mean that there's a 1 size fits all strategy where you can just say, oh, here's the 1 thing we need to do in all these 7 issues. It means we're going to have to deal with them how we deal with as an example. How we deal with staffing. 97 00:13:56,069 --> 00:14:06,479 In the baseline scenario is much different than how we deal with it in a, in a collapsed scenario is much different than how we deal with it in a transformation scenario. But we know we're gonna have to deal with it. 98 00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:18,059 So, they really give us a good solid sense of what does a robust strategy looks like, look like it's, it's centered around those what we call the Super 7. 99 00:14:18,059 --> 00:14:29,339 So, there's some common elements, still some distinction and then the, you know, the other piece that goes along with that and this is kind of fundamental to the future's work in general. 100 00:14:29,339 --> 00:14:35,069 Since we can't know which way that these scenarios are, are actually going to unfold. 101 00:14:36,359 --> 00:14:51,264 So, we want we monitor and that's part of the, you know, the ongoing work of the team is to be saying, all right as we look at what's happening in our landscape. Are we moving towards a particular scenario? Are we moving away for 1? And, you know, so we have to keep our eyes on this. 102 00:14:51,264 --> 00:14:55,494 So it's not like we do the project and go away and just wait for the future to happen. We get to watch. 103 00:14:55,769 --> 00:14:59,429 And react again, I think. 104 00:14:59,429 --> 00:15:10,229 Um, okay, the other thing, the, the, the last major point I wanted to make in terms of these, the, the takeaways. So, you know, again, when we step back and say, what do we find from this work? 105 00:15:10,524 --> 00:15:23,544 Well, for each scenario, we went through a process of identifying the individual implications and we ladder those up into potential strategic issues that we might plug into the strategy process. 106 00:15:23,574 --> 00:15:26,094 And you can see there was, uh, 20 ish. 107 00:15:26,429 --> 00:15:38,249 All of those, um, and not only do we identify the issues it says all right Here's a question. If you will that we need to address we then took it a step further and identified what we call options for action. 108 00:15:38,249 --> 00:15:44,129 And there recommendations, and we used a tool called an elevator speech that gives us sort of a preliminary. 109 00:15:44,154 --> 00:15:55,644 Viewpoint on how we might respond now again, we know that the team is where this work is going to feed a strategic planning process that is going to address those things in detail. 110 00:15:55,674 --> 00:15:59,634 So, we just kind of teed up some ideas and, uh, you know, at a higher level. 111 00:16:00,839 --> 00:16:08,549 Is that, as we looked across this landscape it's all right so, you know, WH, what's what's stuck out to us I think. 112 00:16:08,549 --> 00:16:19,679 1 of the clues in this game is when a theme keeps appearing, we pay attention. Right that's usually telling us something. And you can see that. We actually had 2 options called prioritize. 113 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:34,079 And, you know, in the discussions that I certainly witnessed, and from the, from our weekly team meetings to our in person scenario, workshop meetings, you know, there's a sense that there's so many things we want to do. 114 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:43,824 You know, that's great. There's a great spirit of wanting to offer as many things that we can, but, you know, obviously there are limits and, you know, we need if you will, we need to get better at prioritizing. 115 00:16:44,154 --> 00:16:49,464 Now, that popped up as a key option in in 2 scenarios in the 1st, 2 scenarios. 116 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:57,659 I don't think that's a surprise. I mean, honestly, every single project, I think we've ever done. There's some degree of that. 117 00:16:57,659 --> 00:17:08,009 Now, the question is, you know, is it more in this case? Possibly I don't know. It could be. Um, there are cases where, you know, I think especially with clients who just want to do. 118 00:17:08,009 --> 00:17:11,669 People want to do good things, you know, sometimes that is hard. 119 00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:15,599 We don't want to stop doing things. That's hard. Right that's the hardest thing to do. 120 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:22,559 Adding new things to do easy, stopping existing things, you know, very challenging. Okay. 121 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:28,194 So the other theme that came up, you can see it came up twice, right? 122 00:17:28,194 --> 00:17:42,714 And we call it right in the middle T1, which is the transformation 1, hyper localization and then the very last option from the community, the communities preferred scenario was called hyper local. 123 00:17:42,714 --> 00:17:52,374 Well, basically, the same idea from 2 different groups. What does that mean? Well, I'm glad that it gives me the opportunity to emphasize here. here 124 00:17:53,129 --> 00:18:07,859 Again, from an outsider, what did you hear? Well, I tell you what, I heard community a lot. We were, we were really destruct by how important it was to get community input. So, you know, we did community interviews. 125 00:18:07,859 --> 00:18:21,209 We did a community survey, we translated that survey into 15 languages. We did scenario workshops with community members. We did implications workshops with community. I mean, it was an amazing. 126 00:18:21,209 --> 00:18:24,659 So that community. 127 00:18:24,659 --> 00:18:31,499 The need to consider the needs, uh, considering the needs of the community, what was a huge theme throughout this whole project. 128 00:18:31,499 --> 00:18:40,319 And those 2, the hyper local is just a way to say, how do we, you know, not only identify and hear those needs. But how do we customize to them? 129 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:47,129 And, you know, just different options for how you would customize to different community needs. So, 1st, you're going to be aware. 130 00:18:47,129 --> 00:19:00,749 And then, how do you meet them? So, those were a couple of the themes that came up. There's there's so many more, but I don't have time to go through them. All. I did want to give you at least a snapshot on how we did it, because you might say, well, this is all what, how did you get here? Right? And, um. 131 00:19:00,749 --> 00:19:07,169 It was basically a 12345 month process, right? We started in August. 132 00:19:08,124 --> 00:19:21,864 And we, at Houston foresight, we, we follow a basic approach that we use in our most of our engagements. We always tweak it a little bit, but there's a pretty fundamental core process. We call it framework. Foresight. 133 00:19:22,649 --> 00:19:34,854 And as you might suspect it begins with framing and I'm going to sneak in a slide here. Really quick because I just want you to. So, framing is basically saying, what, how are we going to investigate the future of libraries. You might be saying. 134 00:19:34,854 --> 00:19:39,504 Well, I wonder if they really oh, if they really put some time into this or not. 135 00:19:41,034 --> 00:19:49,194 But this is, as we've said, in our history of doing domain maps, we have never seen a more thorough domain map than we got in this project. 136 00:19:49,194 --> 00:19:56,784 I mean, and you know what this says is there was a deep concern to make sure we didn't forget anything. So, to speak. 137 00:19:57,089 --> 00:20:07,649 So, maybe we'd say a little bit of overkill, but we appreciate the sentiment that if we're going to understand the future of libraries here, and just categories that we need to search. 138 00:20:08,664 --> 00:20:22,104 So I think the thoroughness was, it was quite quite something, so I thought I'd show you that, even though we are a little pressed for time, right? Uh, the 2nd, step is the, uh, what we call scanning for signals of change. 139 00:20:22,104 --> 00:20:33,504 We build what we call a scanning library, we had somewhere around 300 what we call signals of change and it might be an article a blog post, a video Journal piece, whatever. There's any kind of. of 140 00:20:34,019 --> 00:20:46,794 Publication of some sort that's talking about the future, and we have a method of collecting those and pulling insights from it. We identify trends and issues and, you know, we had some other specific types of information about the future. 141 00:20:46,794 --> 00:20:52,944 And then I mentioned already that we did oh, I think it was 50+interviews and had over 100 survey responses. 142 00:20:52,944 --> 00:21:03,924 So we, when, when you're seeing these takeaways that we just went through, they did not just materialize, you know, out of thin air. They're really coming out. really coming out 143 00:21:04,019 --> 00:21:07,139 A, pretty thorough research process. 144 00:21:07,139 --> 00:21:20,849 And what we do to get to some, to help it if you will build the stories of what the future might look like, there's this kind of intermediate step. We call the drivers. Uh, and basically it says, what are the major themes of change. 145 00:21:20,849 --> 00:21:31,434 In the future, why are we space? What do we agree upon? And we had at 14 of them and we use those 14 drivers as a way to kind of like the ingredients. 146 00:21:31,464 --> 00:21:36,684 The main ingredients, not the only ingredients the main ingredients to build our stories about the future. 147 00:21:37,974 --> 00:21:45,684 And then we had our, as I mentioned, we had our 2 scenario workshops in November where we took all based on the drivers, 148 00:21:45,684 --> 00:21:55,524 but also bringing in all the other information that we had developed to that point and crafted it into a sense of the 6 scenarios. 149 00:21:55,524 --> 00:22:06,924 That I showed you earlier on, and then to develop the recommendations, we had a 2nd set of workshop. So we had, as we did the 1st time, we had a staff workshop community workshops. 150 00:22:07,019 --> 00:22:19,704 Workshop community workshop, and from that we developed a set, develop a set of issues that I showed you just a little bit ago on the 20 ish issues and options. 151 00:22:20,484 --> 00:22:32,814 We also did an activity it's called, we depicted here as the integrated strategic approach. So, again, we look across the landscape and say, what, what does that tell us now each domain or each topic has a different. 152 00:22:33,149 --> 00:22:38,789 Type of, you know, response. Right? Sometimes there is a common ground. Sometimes there isn't. 153 00:22:39,809 --> 00:22:42,809 We don't always find 7 issues in the middle. 154 00:22:42,809 --> 00:22:46,349 We did here, but we don't always. So. 155 00:22:46,349 --> 00:22:57,294 That activity, and and again, I think, by the time we get here now, I hope the team is really starting to internalize that mental model of the future, and actually starting to almost think about the moves. 156 00:22:57,294 --> 00:23:10,464 Right we could do this and then this, and we'll adjust that and so that, you know, that kind of rehearsing I think it kind of brings the hopefully brings the future to life. So, as we transition into the strategic planning process, there's this. 157 00:23:10,919 --> 00:23:18,239 Context that is gonna help them. I hope sounds like we already had a good a good kick off meeting where they hit the ground running. 158 00:23:18,239 --> 00:23:29,609 So, I think that's, that's what I wanted to share in terms of the high level overview of what we get out of the project. And, and if it's allowed, I'll take, I'll take questions. 159 00:23:35,399 --> 00:23:38,849 Questions are always allowed, um. 160 00:23:38,849 --> 00:23:46,019 1st. 161 00:23:46,019 --> 00:23:52,439 Yasmin so, um, I think my, my 1st question is around. 162 00:23:52,439 --> 00:23:56,639 Um, how do you take into account. 163 00:23:56,639 --> 00:24:02,639 These, you know, what you've talked about is very much dependent on external parties. 164 00:24:02,639 --> 00:24:14,459 So, I figure that in some of the community workshops that you hosted that you were able to get feedback but, um. 165 00:24:14,459 --> 00:24:24,239 It feels like there's probably going to be more there's going to need to be more engagement with those external parties to. 166 00:24:24,239 --> 00:24:29,639 Figure out, if they're heading in the same direction, as we are is, uh. 167 00:24:29,639 --> 00:24:42,749 That's 1 question and the 2nd question I have for you, because I think your team particularly works for the libraries is how does this compare with other library? Foresight. 168 00:24:43,464 --> 00:24:57,504 Processes yeah, so I think maybe the 1st question, I might not put Tom on the spot, but my guess is the strategic planning process would definitely be, you know, again, bring the community back in, is that that's I mean, 169 00:24:57,804 --> 00:25:02,574 it's like anyone I've ever seen right? Absolutely. So, the next. 170 00:25:02,819 --> 00:25:06,029 Level in the strategic planning will be even more. 171 00:25:06,029 --> 00:25:10,199 Talking to more folks trying to bring more people to. 172 00:25:10,199 --> 00:25:19,434 The discussion, I think, you know, the 1 thing, when you're talking about, you know, we would be relying on others in the community for some of this jasmine. 173 00:25:19,494 --> 00:25:29,244 I think 1 of the things we also heard from the community workshops is that, you know, our librarians are great or library staff or grade or program managers are great, but. 174 00:25:29,819 --> 00:25:41,844 Wouldn't it be great to 1 of the examples that was given is wouldn't it be great to have library partnerships specialists who really just focus on that? The listening and really engaging deeply? 175 00:25:41,844 --> 00:25:45,024 And that's really their focus is partnership development and building. 176 00:25:45,299 --> 00:25:57,899 And so that was some of the things that was coming out so that we're also knowing where, where are we lacking? And it's not that they didn't think everybody was great. They just said, well, we need more time with us and vice versa. 177 00:25:57,899 --> 00:26:03,089 To really understand each other to be able to Co, create Co develop, et cetera. 178 00:26:03,089 --> 00:26:11,549 So, that that was a key, but there'll be there will be more opportunities. Uh, we'll be inviting those groups that participated with, uh, Andy. 179 00:26:11,549 --> 00:26:21,359 We will invite them back to the next round. They may not all be able to participate again, but again be surveys interviews. There'll be a couple different ways that people can participate. 180 00:26:23,639 --> 00:26:32,759 And I don't know how many libraries that I know we're 1 of the 1st to do anything of this scale. So, at least from what I've heard, but you might know more. 181 00:26:33,054 --> 00:26:44,874 Yeah, so we, we don't specialize in libraries. We do all kinds of different, um, do communities and I was just working with the CDC this morning public health. So we're all we're all over the map right now. 182 00:26:44,874 --> 00:26:52,824 I would say that I've done a lot of library talks and workshops over the years. So, um, I personally am pretty familiar with the landscape. 183 00:26:53,099 --> 00:27:07,164 And I'll share the team sentiment as we started to, you know, we're doing our preliminary framing around oh, what's the, what's the Seattle up to? And we're like, oh, this is going to be hard because, like, you guys are, like, you know, 1 of the best, right? 184 00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:15,684 So, if you will, when you have a client, that hasn't done a lot, it's, it's almost easy to recommend, right? Cause there's like, well, you know, there's 10 things you should be doing right away. 185 00:27:16,199 --> 00:27:20,429 And so, in a sense, it was very challenging, right? Because you guys are at the top of the game. 186 00:27:20,429 --> 00:27:33,779 So we said, Ooh, we've gotta we gotta work cut out on this 1. now it was, it's fun to have the challenge, but we, everybody remarks that it's like, we think of something to go out they're already doing that. Not correct. You know, like that kind of thing. 187 00:27:33,779 --> 00:27:38,219 So challenging, but, uh, I hope we stood up to it. 188 00:27:42,539 --> 00:27:47,159 Question can you just help me understand when you. 189 00:27:47,159 --> 00:27:56,849 Investigated community members or community what communities where are we talking about? And how many and just, I'm sure you did. I just want to have a. 190 00:27:56,849 --> 00:28:03,899 Good understanding that we did a comprehensive or appropriate reaching out. 191 00:28:03,899 --> 00:28:17,669 We, we sent out we sent out to about 40, or I think it was 50 different community based organizations that we work with. Um, we had in the workshops, um, maybe. 192 00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:32,249 At times, 10 to 11 folks, depending on the particular workshop that came out that were consistent and then we also had our interviews with some of them as well and some completed the survey. So we had a pretty good. 193 00:28:32,249 --> 00:28:37,109 Mix of folks, um, every, uh, we had. 194 00:28:37,109 --> 00:28:41,999 Uh, I represented the depth blind community. 195 00:28:41,999 --> 00:28:45,569 We had, um, gender Justice league. 196 00:28:45,569 --> 00:28:48,659 We had, um, Atlantic street. 197 00:28:48,659 --> 00:28:57,809 Um, group that just gives you a range of the types of things, or types of folks, and organizations that we have present. So. 198 00:28:57,809 --> 00:29:04,979 You know, you'll never get everyone. They're busy too. Uh, we did pay for their time in all of these efforts. 199 00:29:04,979 --> 00:29:10,049 Uh, depending on which 1 they did, but, um, this next 1 will probably be looking for a little. 200 00:29:10,049 --> 00:29:17,009 Uh, even a little more and aside from organized groups, I mean, who represents. 201 00:29:17,009 --> 00:29:22,469 Gen, or, you know, when you think demographically, as opposed to. 202 00:29:25,224 --> 00:29:36,894 Other things, so I can grab that cause, I mean, that comes up in, in all these kinds of workshops, right? Cause you're always taking such a small microcosm of a huge context. 203 00:29:37,404 --> 00:29:46,014 And I think as we do our research, that's kind of on us to kind of fill in some of those cracks. So to speak, because you can't have every group there. So, you know, we've got a. 204 00:29:46,349 --> 00:29:57,119 Hope that we did our, and then that was part of that detailed domain map that I showed you to say, like, all right well, we thought about this group and what about this type and what about this you know so. 205 00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:08,244 We do the best we can to kind of cover as much of the ground as we can, but like, you know, it it is impossible to get everyone in the room. Um, but again, that's not an app. That's you. 206 00:30:08,904 --> 00:30:17,334 I would say you guys do way more than as a typical typical project we work on it. I mean, you are way more inclusive than most of the projects we do. 207 00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:27,359 Yeah, and even as we've looked at our strategic planning consultant, you know, they've said the same the same thing. They're like, wow, that's a lot. And we actually. 208 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:33,119 We actually worked with them in the for territory who is the strategic planning consultant? 2. 209 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:36,359 Instead of spending 4 weeks, spend 10 weeks. 210 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:41,819 On community engagement, so they've also agreed to that so that we have more time to. 211 00:30:41,819 --> 00:30:51,449 Because 1 of the problems with our for our community based organizations, they're busy, actually doing the work. So when we ask them to drop everything and spend a day with us. 212 00:30:51,449 --> 00:31:04,109 That doesn't always work on our schedule so trying to find times that work. We learned that through this. Um, not that we didn't already know it, but it was still too compressed at a time. Um, so this time we're going to take a little more. 213 00:31:04,109 --> 00:31:07,319 Time to get more and more involvement. 214 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:15,029 Hi, um, this is Ron. Can I ask a question? Um. 215 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:20,789 I'm curious, um, obviously you work with a variety of organizations and sounds like some. 216 00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:27,299 Other libraries as well and while, while it's great to be viewed as being at the top of the. 217 00:31:27,299 --> 00:31:34,619 Learning curve I'm curious. Will there be an opportunity to perhaps at least see what. 218 00:31:34,619 --> 00:31:38,459 How other libraries in particular are dealing with. 219 00:31:38,459 --> 00:31:43,049 Similar challenges and different scenarios for the future. 220 00:31:43,049 --> 00:31:48,179 I mean, you can Andy share some of that as we move forward. 221 00:31:48,179 --> 00:31:54,299 I am convinced you can always learn from other sister institutions. 222 00:31:54,299 --> 00:31:58,349 Where they are, because everybody does something better than the other person. 223 00:31:58,349 --> 00:32:03,659 Well, the way the way that we approach that, and it's, you know, it's. 224 00:32:04,254 --> 00:32:14,424 All these things you got to make his choices on how you want to spend your time. I mean, our goal is to try to find who is doing stuff that you could, you know, in a sense that we could learn from. 225 00:32:15,234 --> 00:32:23,124 So, as I said, in the early going, when we looked at all the obvious things, hey, you should try this. We're like, we go back and look up who they're already doing that. 226 00:32:23,124 --> 00:32:33,564 But, I mean, so we actually expanded our search globally, and we looked across the globe, and some of the examples we were filing from Europe, and I remember we had 1 from Finland, and all across the country. 227 00:32:33,659 --> 00:32:40,049 So, we look for examples of what, you know, how other libraries are approaching some of these things. Now, do we. 228 00:32:40,049 --> 00:32:54,264 We wouldn't claim to comprehensively, um, you know, got every aspect of the landscape, but we feel like we did a pretty good job in terms of, especially future what, in terms of future oriented changes. We have. We had a pretty good inventory for some of those things. 229 00:32:54,564 --> 00:33:00,054 Now, we didn't like, actually map them all out, but we, we have them in our scanning library for instance. 230 00:33:00,329 --> 00:33:08,879 But you will, I think, when you see the full report and we're doing the final edits on that report, Ron, when you see the full report, it's 100 pages. 231 00:33:08,879 --> 00:33:12,539 And of that 100 pages, it has many links off to other, uh. 232 00:33:12,539 --> 00:33:22,049 Articles et cetera, and so you really will start seeing how extensive this is. Andy is really giving you a very. 233 00:33:22,049 --> 00:33:30,059 30, maybe 50,000 foot view of what this report contains really to just to let you understand where you kind of need to. 234 00:33:30,059 --> 00:33:42,869 Dig in a little deeper as you go through the report, the report. So a lot a lot to read when we send that out I'm still trying to get a chance to review the edits that have been sent to me. 235 00:33:42,869 --> 00:33:53,339 And then we'll get that out to the board, but we did want to make sure you had this higher level presentation. So you had a place to start before we just dropped 100 pages on your. 236 00:33:53,339 --> 00:33:56,489 I'm looking forward to reading the book. 237 00:33:56,489 --> 00:34:00,539 Book a little bit. 238 00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:09,989 But I think it, to me, it was very, I mean, I think a lot of the things that you're, you know, are thinking of Ron, I think you'll find in there. 239 00:34:09,989 --> 00:34:13,499 I found myself going down a lot of rabbit holes. I know. 240 00:34:13,499 --> 00:34:19,589 Andy, and his team went down a lot of rabbit holes too just looking at those links those articles, those ideas. 241 00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:22,619 And I think you'll see some of that as you go through the report. 242 00:34:26,759 --> 00:34:30,599 So, I had a couple of follow ups, um. 243 00:34:31,494 --> 00:34:45,564 1, is the preferred future is you've called the ecosystem anchor, and I'm curious again. I realize we'll get a chance to read the report but can you just define the ecosystem in that? 244 00:34:46,464 --> 00:34:48,204 And the 2nd question is. 245 00:34:48,899 --> 00:34:53,879 The way that that preferred future is defined. 246 00:34:53,879 --> 00:35:02,369 Talks about, um, social and other services distributed to other niches in the community ecosystem. 247 00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:06,329 That are more qualified to handle them. Um. 248 00:35:06,329 --> 00:35:14,099 I, you know, I think part of the reason the library is in the position it's in today is because. 249 00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:22,499 The ecosystem doesn't have the resources to handle some of the things that we are being asked to handle. 250 00:35:22,499 --> 00:35:28,439 So, I assume that, in order to actually reach that preferred future. 251 00:35:28,439 --> 00:35:35,819 We have to actually proactively and ensure that the ecosystem can take that on. 252 00:35:35,819 --> 00:35:39,629 Other people other groups in the ecosystem and so. 253 00:35:39,629 --> 00:35:45,329 That'll be interesting to come up with what those strategies are. So, I guess that's not really a question. It's a comment. 254 00:35:45,329 --> 00:35:48,329 I thought, oh, go ahead Andy. 255 00:35:48,329 --> 00:35:54,599 Sure, well, I think I can jump in a little bit on it in the sense of. 256 00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:59,039 As we as, as we went through some of this, it's. 257 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:05,129 We know that there's not going to be a safety net for every single aspect and we can't, we cannot. 258 00:36:05,129 --> 00:36:16,709 We can't be that place that's going to always provide it. However, we might prioritize certain certain things that we're seeing in community again. Not necessarily doing the work. 259 00:36:16,709 --> 00:36:20,729 But better partnering, so if we say we have a partner. 260 00:36:20,729 --> 00:36:27,719 And I'll use something I'll use something like homelessness, which is always mentioned in the press. 261 00:36:29,249 --> 00:36:32,339 We know that we can provide great referral services. 262 00:36:32,339 --> 00:36:40,319 Through our social workers, our social services, like brand teams we know we can do that but are we going to be. 263 00:36:40,319 --> 00:36:45,359 Would we be the best point? Maybe we partner with. 264 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:50,369 The King County, regional authority on that, and maybe they have people in our spaces. 265 00:36:50,369 --> 00:36:58,649 And we prioritize where those areas are in the city. So that's an example of really kind of looking at that entire ecosystem and saying, okay. 266 00:36:58,794 --> 00:37:13,554 As a referral agency, here's our strength, but when we don't have the strength to really do the in depth, instead of just pointing and saying going, go over there, which is the worst thing, maybe the go over here is let me walk you over to this counselor. 267 00:37:13,554 --> 00:37:16,944 I can provide a more direct service to you because we're also housing it. 268 00:37:17,249 --> 00:37:22,199 So, that's that's how I'm looking at it and really having a deeper. 269 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:35,699 Deeper partnership, and that's what I think was pointed out by those in the workshops with the community based organizations to be able to do that. Then you've got to really have people that are spending the time all the time in developing those partnerships. 270 00:37:36,929 --> 00:37:42,839 I could think of it, you know, I, I just started working with the boys and girls clubs of America. 271 00:37:42,839 --> 00:37:53,934 And I was a big user of the services when I was a kid. So, this is so awesome for me. Right 1 of the things. I real, I didn't know about this is they, they actually have a lot of their operations. 272 00:37:53,934 --> 00:37:58,794 Do not have a physical facility that they actually operate inside other facilities. 273 00:37:59,069 --> 00:38:06,959 I think to me, that's those are the ideas that we were engaging with is we thought of this, you know, should they be here? Should we be there? 274 00:38:07,374 --> 00:38:20,754 And, you know, rethinking those kinds of relationships and I think, you know, to your point about the resources, it's such a group and a preferred future. We have those resources. But, to your point, they kind of just magically appear probably not. 275 00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:29,544 So, there aren't there is some work to be done and if we don't get those resources, so to speak, that's, you know, that's the baseline future. Where are we getting them? 276 00:38:29,544 --> 00:38:36,894 We do pretty good and we have to struggle and prioritize and then we think that that that future could be the 1 that, you know, andrew's on longer than. 277 00:38:36,959 --> 00:38:38,220 Then we think. 278 00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:53,155 Possible and if it goes really bad, that's the collapsed 1 where, you know, they're really scared. So W, we do think of like, you know, you can't just, you really got to dig into those tough questions and say, all right, what would we do in these different, you know, and in these different scenarios. 279 00:38:53,155 --> 00:39:05,575 But obviously, the main thrust is like, this is the way we want to this is where we want to get to what's the best we can do to, you know, if you will get on that preferred pathway. And I think pathway is the way we always think of it. What's the pathway look like. 280 00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:15,330 More questions. 281 00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:27,060 Comments so I will, I will at least say this, I think, as we go through it, you all or will be involved in the strategic planning process as well. 282 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:35,880 Um, so I do encourage you when we send out the report that you really go through this, and if there's questions, you know, bring them up. 283 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,600 To me, and and we'll definitely go through them. We can also. 284 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:45,240 Bring back specific information at board meetings that there's that as well. 285 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,900 Um, well, we're looking at this. This is a very. 286 00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:58,770 And I, I tried to explain this to colleagues and really what we're doing is we are creating the pathways for the mid century. 287 00:39:58,770 --> 00:40:05,820 Library system, and I know that sounds weird because we all think a mid century being the 20th. 288 00:40:06,325 --> 00:40:14,425 And those 9,950 s, but we are really thinking of this being driving us towards that 2033 2032 timeframe that's going to be pushing towards that mid century timeframe in this century. 289 00:40:15,025 --> 00:40:26,275 And so we've really got to be saying, okay for this to happen, or we know that we're going to have and expect to have. happen or we know that we're going to have and expect to have 290 00:40:26,610 --> 00:40:33,060 Significant changes, we have got to do things differently, but we also have to stop doing some things. 291 00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:42,900 That is going to be the tough and tricky part as we go through the strategic planning is along that pathway that Andy's talking about to that preferred future. 292 00:40:43,645 --> 00:40:57,895 Some things are going to be left behind and they have to be if we want to actually reach those new populations, those new generations, and really be able to do the work with the resources. We have doesn't mean, we can't ask more doesn't mean we won't get more. 293 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,420 Because we'll know what we want to get, but we have to be realistic to that. 294 00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:16,945 There isn't an endless part of money. We can't carry all that legacy stuff behind us. And that's not to say that we're not going to do all those things. You think of the library we're still going to have collections. We're still gonna be information providers. It's just, you know, how are we doing that? 295 00:41:16,945 --> 00:41:23,605 How are we engaging the community to do that work? That's what's going to change significantly as we move over the next decade. 296 00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:34,650 And the tools will as well artificial intelligence, all these things that you here in, just the whispering of today 10 years from now, everybody will be using them every single day. And not, even though it. 297 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:44,790 Tom, were you surprised at the preferred alternative or does this just confirm where you thought you were going anyhow? 298 00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:49,620 I, you know, I think the organization has been on that path. 299 00:41:49,620 --> 00:42:00,450 For quite a while, not quite a few for a few years. Let's say 5 years. Um, already, I think the issue that we have seen in the past is we've never been able to. 300 00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:04,440 Do any of it at scale? We haven't been able to prioritize. 301 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:15,390 And we haven't been able to leave things behind and because of that, we will not get it to scale. We will not reach those communities. And from an equity perspective. 302 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:18,540 We won't reallocate the resources to get it done. 303 00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:25,470 And those are the, those have been the limiters to the great work that staff have been trying to do as we move forward. 304 00:42:25,470 --> 00:42:29,400 So, I think a lot of what we see is yes. Um. 305 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:37,020 Not a surprise, but then, I think, as you see the community really drive out jumping in and aligning with some of that. 306 00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:43,530 And where they want to see things going, and where they think the library's done good work and where they could do better. 307 00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:47,880 I hope we'll hear more of that as we move through this again. 308 00:42:47,880 --> 00:43:00,210 As Andy said this as a starting point, and through that strategic planning, we're going to tweak and twist and what that preferred future really looks like and what's obtainable and what the organization's readiness is to perform it. 309 00:43:00,210 --> 00:43:09,930 Uh, that's going to be key as well. That's the next, you know, that's 1 of the final steps of the strategic planning will be, what is the organizational readiness to do this work. 310 00:43:09,930 --> 00:43:13,800 Because a lot of times you got to do the, and that's the painful. 311 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,930 Painful part to get to that great story at the end. 312 00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:29,070 Great, thank you. Any last questions or comments. 313 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,490 I think this is great and I want to thank you it. It seems to me that. 314 00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:39,270 The preferred the future is, um. 315 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:44,040 Makes so much sense to me, it has 2 parts. 1 is. 316 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,300 To to put a stake in the ground to say, this is what we do. 317 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:54,870 This is what import is important. We are the only ones that can do this and we want to be great at it. 318 00:43:54,870 --> 00:44:03,690 And it follows from that is a whole lot of stuff that people might like us to do that we cannot do. And we have to find alternatives. 319 00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:12,270 To meet our goal, but it's, you know, how we reach those priorities. But I think what's really a self definition of what. 320 00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:18,480 What we want to do what we feel, our central purpose and strategic advantages and providing. 321 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,700 Services and so I look forward to it. I think this is great. And I, thank you. 322 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:34,740 Yeah, I just want a 2nd that, um, I do, I agree with Jay that I feel like what the library is providing today. Some of it. 323 00:44:34,740 --> 00:44:39,660 Has been thrust upon the system, um. 324 00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:45,630 And when you read the, the reports of what staff are working on, like the. 325 00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:53,160 The intellectual freedom training, the digital literacy work that the staff are doing where. 326 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,840 You know, it's, it's an extension of the work of the library to. 327 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,760 Give people the tools as well as the resources for. 328 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:14,640 Figuring out how to navigate democracy and to be a full player in democracy that work is just so important. And when we're having to. 329 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:29,490 Set it aside or give it lower priority because of things that really shouldn't be in our Bailey wick. We're losing an opportunity, especially at this incredible moment of transition. 330 00:45:29,490 --> 00:45:40,920 Around what is democracy and how do we educate everybody so that there's a baseline of understanding. So I, I really appreciate that as well. Um. 331 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:49,170 And I think as we move forward Tom in the actual strategic planning effort to think about. 332 00:45:49,170 --> 00:45:57,750 How we need to be proactive and how the board of trustees can be helpful in leading some of that proactivity. 333 00:45:59,430 --> 00:46:03,660 Yeah, thank you for that. I, well, I think and you have seen some of that as we. 334 00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:18,025 You know, we moved to more advocacy, we've asked you the board to also be part of that advocacy network as we continue to push and push on in those areas going after different types of funding sources. 335 00:46:18,055 --> 00:46:28,435 Uh, both government and other types of grant makers out there. Those are all going to be areas that are going to be critical to this work, uh, the next level as we go for that. 336 00:46:28,890 --> 00:46:35,010 To actualize this work and all of the strategic planning and futures work that we've done. 337 00:46:35,010 --> 00:46:46,410 It's gonna require that next Levy. We know we're gonna have to carry a portion of it for our operating for those services that we do every day. But then we're going to have to also then decide what in there it gets repurposed. 338 00:46:46,410 --> 00:46:56,550 And then what is absolutely brand new that we need to make sure that we have to see the next couple of years of that strategic plan, come to fruition and move us down that path. 339 00:46:56,550 --> 00:47:03,630 To that preferred future so it's definitely going to be a lot of board involvement moving through that process. 340 00:47:08,155 --> 00:47:22,675 Thanks Tom. Thanks, Andy for your presentation. I really appreciate your work on this and I actually enjoyed the workshops that I participated in. So, um, thanks for that and I think we all look forward to reading the report. Uh. 341 00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:30,420 As soon as it's ready. All right, well, thank you. I'll appreciate it and good luck going forward. You're in good hands. 342 00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:34,770 Yes, thanks, Andy. Alright. 343 00:47:37,770 --> 00:47:43,500 Uh, Tom, was there anything else on the chief library in your system report? 344 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:53,100 There is not we'll move 1 that we have planned for day to probably next month sometime or the following month. We've got a few things queued up. So, uh, we'll get back to those. 345 00:47:53,515 --> 00:48:05,005 Okay, that would be great. Our next item on the agenda is old business, which we don't have any. So on 2, new business, our library foundation and friends of the library reports. 346 00:48:05,845 --> 00:48:11,665 I believe the foundation did not have a February meeting. So we're just looking at. 347 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:16,050 Friends meeting, which I attended, um. 348 00:48:16,050 --> 00:48:28,290 It was actually very brief, um, because I actually spent their February board meeting, mostly as a work session for their committees, but they did welcome 2, new board members. Um, Julio Rodriguez and Wendy Overton. 349 00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:39,000 And then actually, vice president angel solve. Oh, I think some of you have met, she actually was running the meeting and she recapped their recent retreat. 350 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:46,530 And then they, they spent the rest of their meeting in the committee breakout rooms and they actually they also. 351 00:48:46,530 --> 00:48:57,000 Back to new board members, they did have 2 potential new board members visiting and participating. So they are evolving as ever. 352 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:03,930 And I think that is it for the friends board report. 353 00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:07,980 Um, back to our agenda. 354 00:49:09,690 --> 00:49:21,810 Were there any questions or comments? Oh, yeah, I just wanted to say, thank you for covering the friends board meeting. Yeah, I mean, I really appreciate that. 355 00:49:21,810 --> 00:49:26,370 No problem it like I said, it was short, so. 356 00:49:26,370 --> 00:49:36,060 Next item is updates from library board members, whether did anyone have any updates or anything else? We should. 357 00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:39,960 Be, uh, no about picked up on. 358 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:50,610 I'm going to go to the library this evening. Oh, no, I'm not. Yeah, I'm going to actually be there. It's tonight, um, lessons in chemistry the offer's going to be there and there's a oh. 359 00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:54,780 Before that there's a foundation reception, which is the norm and. 360 00:49:54,780 --> 00:50:00,180 Um, I always look forward to that like, we, my wife and I walk over and enjoy and. 361 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:09,570 Bear the cold weather and and warm up it's supposed to be a very good book. I've just read some reviews. I haven't read the book itself. 362 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:18,900 It's a really thought provoking book and I'm really bombed. I can't go here her speak, um, cause it it, uh. 363 00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:25,440 Definitely, there are parts of it that rubbed me the wrong way. But, um, also parts that were. 364 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:32,970 Inspiring, I guess to some degree, so that's a really cool author and. 365 00:50:32,970 --> 00:50:36,660 I have a question if I could follow up. 366 00:50:36,660 --> 00:50:42,870 I'm curious where this is the big Seattle reads anniversary. 367 00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:49,140 And I think it's happening in May Tom. Can you just remind us what's planned? 368 00:50:51,990 --> 00:51:06,870 So, I was on mute, um, actually, we'll have come in and give a little more of a detailed presentation of what we have planned and Amy. I can't remember if that's planned for April or March next month in March. Mm. Hmm. 369 00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:11,340 So, she'll, she'll give you lots of good information and the, the sneak peak. 370 00:51:12,660 --> 00:51:17,610 Great looking forward to that and enjoy tonight today. 371 00:51:17,610 --> 00:51:21,270 Thank you, um, any other updates. 372 00:51:23,820 --> 00:51:31,320 All right, well, um, our final, I believe our final item on our agenda is that we are having an executive session today. 373 00:51:31,615 --> 00:51:44,965 So, it's now 2259 so, at this time, the sale public library board of trustees, we will have an executive session to review confidential personnel matters. No decisions will be made during this closed session. 374 00:51:44,965 --> 00:51:50,905 And I expect this executive session will conclude at about. executive session will conclude at about 375 00:51:51,210 --> 00:52:00,720 I want to say 120, probably about 20 minutes. So the boarding staff we're working on these issues will now be moved into a private. 376 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:15,060 Online meeting room, and then the public meeting will remain connected, but meeting attendees will not be able to view or hear members in executive session. And then the public meeting public portion of the meeting will recommend in about. 377 00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:18,750 15 to 20 minutes, and then we'll come back and will adjourn. 378 00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:25,140 So, um, I see is on screen I'm. 379 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,350 We, the, the process is happening. 380 00:52:33,330 --> 00:52:36,480 Good afternoon board members. Hi. 381 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:45,570 Hi Kerman. Okay. All right. Looks like we are back. 382 00:52:45,570 --> 00:52:50,760 Um, it's now 114, our executive session has ended. 383 00:52:50,760 --> 00:53:01,350 And I believe we can adjourn this regular meeting of the public library board of trustees. Our next meeting is March 23rd. 384 00:53:01,350 --> 00:53:06,270 And I look forward to seeing you all then. 385 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:10,200 We're adjourned, thank you. Bye. Bye. Everybody. 386 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,100 Bye.