>> I AM THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC
SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES
COMMITTEE. WE WILL COME TO ORDE
AND IF THE CHAIR COULD PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER TERESA
MOSQUEDA?
>> I'M SORRY, SHE IS EXCUSED.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDEREN?
>> PRESENT.
>> VICE CHAIR MILLIS?
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR LISA HERBOLD?
>> HERE.
>> ALL PRESENT.
>> WE WILL BE HEARING AN
APPOINTMENT TO THE POLICE
COMMISSION AND THEN WE WILL BE
LIFTING, CONSIDERING LIFTING A
PROVISO FOR THE APPROPRIATIONS
TO SUPPORT A HUMAN SERVICES
PROGRAM THAT WE WILL TALK MORE
ABOUT, A MUNDANE ORDINANCE .
THEY ADOPTED THE 2023 BUDGET. W
WILL ALSO BE RECEIVING AN UPDAT
ON THE LEADER/CO-LEAD CONTRACT
AND THEN WE WILL BE RECEIVING A
BRIEFING ON A DRAFT FOR THE
REACTION NATION. THIS IS A DRAF
BILL AND IT IS NOT INTRODUCED
YET, HOWEVER I WANT TO SHARE TH
STATUS OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE
CONTENT THAT WE HAVE SO FAR
WITH THE RESULTS OF THE
STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT IS
ONGOING. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL
TRANSITION INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL MODERATE THE PERIOD IN
THE FOLLOWING MANNER. EACH
SPEAKER WILL HAVE ONE AND HALF
MINUTES TO SPEAK. I WILL
ALTERNATE BETWEEN VIRTUAL AND
IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENTS. I
WILL CALL IN EACH SPEAKER BY
NAME AND IN THE ORDER IN WHICH
THEY REGISTERED ON THE COUNCIL'
WEBSITE AND ON THE SIGN IN
FORM. IF YOU HAVE NOT YET
REGISTERED TO SPEAK WHAT YOU
WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, YOU CAN
SIGN UP FOR THE END OF THE
PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION. WHAT I
CALL A SPEAKER'S NAME, IF YOU'R
USING THE VIRTUAL OPTION, YOU
WILL HEAR A PROMPT AND ONCE YOU
HAVE HEARD IT, YOU NEED TO PRES
STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING BY STATIN
YOUR NAME ON THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING. THE SPEAKERS WILL
HEAR A CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS AR
LEFT OF THE ALLOTTED TIME. ONCE
THE SPEAKER HEARS THAT, WE ASK
YOU BEGIN TO WRAP UP YOUR PUBLI
COMMENTS. THE SPEAKERS DO NOT
END THEIR COMMENTS AT THE END
OF THE ALLOTTED TIME PROVIDED,
THE SPEAKERS MICROPHONE WILL BE
MUTED AFTER 10 SECONDS TO ALLOW
US TO HEAR FROM THE NEXT
SPEAKER. ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETE
YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK YOU
DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE AND IF
YOU PLAN TO FOLLOW THE MEETING,
WE ASK YOU PLEASE DO SO VIA THE
SEATTLE CHANNEL OR THE LISTENIN
OPTIONS LISTED ON THE AGENDA. W
HAVE 14 PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT AND FOUR OF THOS
INDIVIDUALS ARE VIRTUAL AND 10
ARE IN PERSON. I THINK THAT IS
THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 10 ARE
VIRTUAL AND FOUR ARE IN PERSON.
AGAIN, I WILL LOOK IN THE
RECORD TWO AT A TIME. WE ARE
STARTING WITH THE IN-PERSON
OPTIONS. WE WILL HAVE THESE TWO
>> THANK YOU.
>> IT IS GARBAGE AND THERE ARE
RATS. THERE ARE NINE STUPID
ABSOLUTELY MENTALLY SICK
PSYCHOPATHS. MY NAME IS
ALEXANDER. THERE IS MY FUTURE.
OKAY, I HAVE MY LUXURY IS STYLE
AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AFTER 14
TRESPASSES, IT EXPIRED YESTERDA
AND I COME BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. THIS
PSYCHOPATH AND MENTALLY SICK --
THERE ARE DEGENERATE IDIOTS AN
SLAVES. 14 TRESPASSES EXPIRED
YESTERDAY AND I COME AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND AGAIN. 1200 DAYS, I
CANNOT GO HERE. NO KNOWLEDGE --
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO -- THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
>> OUR NECK SPEAKER WILL BE
MICHAEL WOLF AND THEY WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY GLENN.
>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL WOLF AND
AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND I
AM COMMENTING ON THE
DEACTIVATION RIGHTS. I WOULD
LIKE TO THANK HERBALS AND LEWIS
FOR INTRODUCING THIS IMPORTANT
PIECE OF LEGISLATION I WOULD
LIKE TO THINK THEIR STAFF
MEMBERS AND CENTRAL STAFF
MEMBERS FOR MEETING WITH US AN
LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS OVER
THIS ORDINANCE. WE ARE VERY
PLEASED TO SEE SOME OF OUR FEET
BACK WAS IMPLEMENTED . WE NEED
CLEAR LANGUAGE ON -- IF OR WHE
THEY HAVE ACCUMULATED MULTIPLE
TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS OR ASPHALT
ACCIDENTS. THIS LANGUAGE IS
IMPORTANT SO AT BASE WORKERS
KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED TO
MAINTAIN THEIR ACCOUNTS ON THE
APPS OR TO SIGN UP FOR WORK ON
THE APPS. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING FORTH THIS LEGISLATION
THAT PROVIDES VALUABLE
PROTECTIONS FOR APP-BASED
WORKERS. I'M HAPPY TO CLEAR WIT
THEM TO MAKE THIS LEGISLATION
REALLY GOOD.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS --
FOLLOWED BY GEORGINA AND
OTHERS.
>> I WISH WE COULD MEET IN
DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. I HAVE
BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS. WE HAVE
ALL SEEN THE CHANGES OVER THE
YEARS AND I AM HERE BECAUSE,
FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS, I COULD
NOT GET ANY OF YOUR OFFICE HOUR
TO HAVE A ONE TO ONE MEETING. I
WROTE SEVERAL ARTICLES JUST TO
MENTION THE STATE OF OUR CITY.
AM HERE BECAUSE I FELT THAT THE
CITY HAS NEGLECTED ITS DUTY AS
GUARDIAN TO THIS ENTIRE CITY.
MAJOR CONSTRUCTIONS ARE POPPING
UP EVERYWHERE AND IT IS
PROMOTED BY CITY LEADERSHIP TO
HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE
NEVER ADDRESSTHE CORE OF THE
PROBLEMS OF THE DRUGS EPIDEMIC
AND MENTAL HEALTH. WE DO NOT
HAVE ENOUGH TREATMENT FOR
VETERANS. AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED
IN EDUCATION AND IN THE CITIES
AND WORKING FOR THE STATE, I
HAVE SEEN THE ASPECTS OF HUMAN
SUFFERING AND WE ARE NOT DOING
VERY GOOD JOB. BY INCREASING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE ARE
PASSING THE COST TO THE RENTER
AND THE HOMEOWNER INSTEAD -- WE
NEED TO INCREASE PRIVATE HOME
OWNERSHIP. I AM HERE TO BEG YOU
TO RAISE THE PENALTY OF THE
CONSTRUCTION VIOLATION TO
$10,000 PER INCIDENT. I HAVE
BEEN AWAKENED BY HOW IMPACT --
HAVE BEEN SEEING SIDEWALKS BEIN
TAKEN OVER FOR A PERIOD OF A
YEAR OR UP TO FOUR YEARS BY
CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. THERE I
NO REGARDS. THE CITY ISSUES
LIMITED PERMITS TO CONSTRUCTION
AND IT HAS TO STOP. IT IS A
VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS. THAN
YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GEORGINA
AND -- I THINK THAT WE MIGHT
HAVE INTERPRETATION SERVICES?
YOU WILL BE GIVEN AN EXTRA --
>> [ SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH ]
>> AT THE END OF SUMMER 2022,
WORKERS WERE HIT HARD BY THE
LACK OF UNEMPLOYMENT THEY FACE
SIMILAR SITUATION. I THOUGHT I
WOULD BE SAFE BECAUSE I AM A
GREAT DASHA BURNS YOU DO NOT
WANT TO BELIEVE THEY WERE
TARGETING LATINAS AND LATINOS
BUT IT IS HARD TO IGNORE THIS
WHEN YOU FAMILY MEMBERS AND
FRIENDS ACCOUNTS ARE ALSO BEING
DEACTIVATED.
>> [ SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH ]
>> MY ACCOUNT WAS DEACTIVATED
TWICE. IT IS FRUSTRATING BECAUS
I DIDN'T KNOW THE REASON WHY
THEY CLOSE IT. I DID NOT
UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON AN
I WAS NOT GIVEN AN EXPLANATION
AS TO WHY IT WAS BEING
DEACTIVATED. APPEALS WERE MADE
BUT NO ANSWER WAS GIVEN. IT
AFFECTED ME AND OTHERS WHOM I
WAS PAYING, LIKE MY DOCTORS AND
MY RENT. I WAS NOT ABLE TO PAY
MY BILLS DURING THE THREE WEEKS
I COULD NOT WORK AND THOSE BILL
GREW EXPONENTIALLY BECAUSE OF
NONPAYMENT. SOMETHING AS SIMPLE
AS A PARKING TICKET INCREASED 2
TO 3 TIMES BECAUSE I COULD NOT
PAY IT ON TIME.
>> [ SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH ]
>> I WENT FROM WORKING FOR
DOORDASH TO WORKING FOR UBER
EATS AND WITHIN A COUPLE OF
MONTHS, RECEIVED THE
DEACTIVATION LETTER FROM UBER
EATS. I WAS NOTIFIED IN JANUARY
MY ACCOUNT HAD BEEN CLOSED. I
SUBMITTED AN APPEAL STATEMENT I
HOPES I COULD GET BACK TO WORK.
>> [ SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH ]
>> DOORDASH OR UBER EATS
ANALYZES AND DEACTIVATES YOUR
ACCOUNT FOR MAKING DECISIONS
WHETHER YOU ACCEPT AN ORDER. YO
CANNOT WORK FOR FREE. WE NEED
PROTECTIONS AGAINST DEACTIVATIO
IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS A RELIABL
JOB AND I WHEN I CAN USE AT ANY
MOMENT WITH NO EXPLANATION.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT ONE IS HOWARD GALE.
HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY EDWIN.
HOWARD?
>> GOOD MORNING. I AM HOWARD
GALE WITH THE HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE
TASK FORCE. CHAIR HERBOLD, YOU
SAID, AND I QUOTE, WHAT I AM
PLEDGING TO YOU IS TO WORK ON
FINDING A NEW WAY OF DOING
THINGS SO WE ACTUALLY GET
DIFFERENT RESULTS, UNQUOTE. YET
THEY KILLED ALBERT AND DANNY
RODRIGUEZ AND TERRY AND DEREK
AND THE PERSON WHO REMAINS A
STILL UNNAMED, KILLED BY THE
SPD. ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE
HOLDING THE WEAPON. ALL THESE
KILLINGS WERE DEEMED, QUOTE,
LAWFUL AND PROPER BY OUR POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM. THE
PROFOUND AND LACKING
RESPONSIBILITIES IS EXPLAINED B
WHO GETS POINTED TO THE
COMMISSION. YOU WILL APPOINT AN
SPD OFFICER WHILE OVER THE LAST
10 YEARS, THE CPC HAS NOT HAD
ONE SINGLE MEMBER WHO IS
DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY SERIOUS SP
VIOLENCE. YOU SEEK THE ABUSERS
AND YOU SILENCE THE ABUSED.
SHUTTING OUT THEIR VOICES. THE
CPC HAS BEEN UNRELENTING IN
SILENCING AND GASLIGHTING THE
COMMUNITY, GOING SO FAR AS TO
PREVENTS THE COMMENTS AT
MEETINGS. THIS UNRELENTING
CULTURE IS SHUTTING OUT THE PAI
OF THE COMMUNITY AND IT HAS LED
TO THE COUNCIL AND THE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM RENDERING
THE ONE PROGRAM FOR THESE
AFFECTED PEOPLE DEAD ON ARRIVAL
WHERE IS THE SHAME? WHERE IS TH
EMPATHY? WHERE ARE THE DIFFEREN
RESULTS?
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
SIGNED UP, EDWIN . HE IS NOT
PRESENT. THEN WE WILL GO DOWN T
DANIELLE ALVARADO AND THEN
HIGHTOWER. DANIELLE?
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
DANIELLE AND I AM THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF WORK IN WASHINGTON.
I HAVE SUPPORT FOR THE
DEACTIVATION ORDINANCE. IT
COMES UP AS A TOP PRIORITY AMON
OUR MEMBERS ACROSS ALL APPS.
THEY HAVE LOST INCOME AND FOR
MANY GIG WORKERS, THIS SETS UP
CHAIN REACTION WHERE THEY CAN
LOSE THEIR CAR AND NOT AFFORD
BASIC MEDICAL CARE AND FACE
EVICTION. IT IS AVOIDABLE. ONE
OF OUR WORKERS WAS DEACTIVATED
AFTER THEY WERE SIGNED AN AFTER
HOURS DELIVERY THAT REQUIRED A
SIGNATURE. HE WAS LEFT TO
CHOOSE BETWEEN COMPLETING THE
DELIVERY AND NOT GETTING THE
SIGNATURE OR NOT FINISHING THE
JOB. WHEN HE WAS DEACTIVATED, H
TRIED TO COMMUNICATE, BUT HE
COULD ONLY TEXT. YOU COULD NEVE
GET HUMAN BEING. HE NEVER GOT A
STRAIGHT ANSWER ABOUT WHAT HE
COULD DO TO EXPLAIN THE
SITUATION. WE HEAR STORIES LIKE
THIS ALL THE TIME,
UNFORTUNATELY. WORKERS HAVE TOO
MANY COMMON EXPERIENCES OF BEIN
DEACTIVATED BECAUSE OF
UNINVESTIGATED CUSTOMER
COMPLAINTS AND FACIAL
RECOGNITION SOFTWARE AND NEEDIN
TO TAKE TIME OFF AMONG OTHER
THINGS. THERE ARE POLICIES THA
ESTABLISH THE BASIC RIGHTS ANY
WORKER SHOULD HAVE. DEACTIVATIO
PROTECTIONS ARE CRITICAL PIECES
OF ENSURING OUR OTHER LABOR
STANDARDS REALLY MEAN SOMETHING
IN THE LIVES OF THESE WORKERS.
WE ARE GLAD TO SEE THE COUNCIL
REMAIN COMMITTED TO ADDRESSING
THIS URGENT ISSUE AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO IT LATER THIS MONTH.
THANK YOU.
>> NEXT ONE IS HIGHTOWER. AND
THEN WE HAVE ALLISON FORD.
>> MY NAME IS HIGHTOWER.
SIMILARLY TO THE WAYS IN WHICH
THE POLICE HAVE CONTINUED TO
BRUTALLY MURDER SEATTLE
RESIDENTS WHILE UNDER THE
CONSENT DECREE, INCLUDING THE
GENTLEMAN WHO HAD HIS -- BEFORE
BEING SHOT TO DEATH AND WHOSE
NAME THEY HAVE NEVER EVEN
BOTHERED TO UTTER. AND THEY HAV
NEVER BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR
IT. TODAY, THE CPC IS SET TO
LOOK AT ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER
AS A COMMISSIONER AFTER THEY
CONTINUE TO BULLY AND SILENCE
AND SYSTEMICALLY PREVENT AND
DIRECTLY HARM OTHERS TO -- WE
NEED A VOICE IN CREATING A SAFE
ENOUGH SPACE WITHIN OUR OWN
COMMISSION FOR AN AFFECTIVE
PERSON TO BECOME A COMMISSIONER
THEMSELVES. SOMETHING I THINK W
HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BLOCKING THE
AFFECTED PERSONS PROGRAM FOR
FIVE MONTHS AND TO CREATE AN
APPEALS PROCESS FOR VICTIMS FOR
SIX YEARS, ONLY TO BEGIN TALKIN
ABOUT IT AS A WAY TO UNDERMINE
THE AFFECTED PERSONS PROGRAM AN
THEN PROMPTLY AND CONVENIENTLY
GIVING EXCUSES AFTER EXCUSES
AFTER EXCUSES AS TO WHY THERE I
NO REASON TO EVEN TRY TO CREATE
ONE TO BEGIN WITH. THE CITY
WANTS TO SPD A MODEL DEPARTMENT
AS THEY CONTINUE TO BE
BRUTALIZED AND MURDERED AND
SILENCED. THEY ARE WANTING TO
CALL THEM AND EXAMPLE -- IT IS
SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. IT IS A
MODEL AND EXAMPLE AND I CALL IT
A FARCE. WE DESERVE BETTER.
SHAME ON YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS ALLISON FORD, FOLLOWED BY
VALERIE.
>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING
TO ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS ALLISON FORD AND I AM A
PUBLIC POLICY MANAGER FOR COOPE
CO. IN SEATTLE. I AM CALLING
TODAY REGARDING A PROPOSED
SEATTLE ORDINANCE. I WANTED TO
BEGIN BY THANKING THOSE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND STAFF THA
HAVE MET WITH US REGARDING THIS
PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO HEAR OUR
FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS. SHARES
THE VALUE AND INTENTIONS AND
MOTIVATIONS BEHIND THE PROPOSED
ORDINANCE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE
DO HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH
SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN THE
PROPOSED DRAFT THAT SEVERELY
LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO ENSURE A
SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR CUSTOMERS,
SMALL BUSINESS PARTNERS, AND
DELIVERY WORKERS. OUR PRIMARY
CONCERN IS TO ENSURE THAT OUR
PLATFORM REMAINS SAFE TO USE AN
THAT WE RETAIN THE ABILITY TO
PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF
INDIVIDUALS THAT USE OUR
PLATFORM FROM EXPOSING THE
PERSONAL INFORMATION BEYOND WHA
IS NECESSARY TO TEMPORARILY
COMPLETE AN ORDER. WE TAKE THE
SAFETY AND RELIABILITY OF OUR
PLATFORM SERIOUSLY AND WE
REQUIRE THE ABILITY TO PROTECT
ACCESS TO OUR PLATFORMS AND
USERS THAT HAVE DISPLAYED
BEHAVIOR OR A PATTERN OF
BEHAVIOR THAT PUTS THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY AND ECONOMIC
WELL-BEING OF INDIVIDUALS AND
SMALL BUSINESSES IN SEATTLE AT
RISK. WE ARE HOPEFUL FOR THE
CONTINUED OPPORTUNITY TO WORK
WITH THE ORDINANCE AND
STAKEHOLDERS TO IMPROVE THIS
DRAFT WITH AN OUTCOME THAT
PROTECTS WORKERS AND PROVIDES
THEM WITH A PROCESS WITHOUT
SACRIFICING THE SAFETY AND
PRIVACY OF SEATTLE CUSTOMERS AN
SMALL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS VALERIE , FOLLOWED BY
CATHERINE.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
VALERIE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING
THE POLICE REFORM CONSENT DECRE
FOR OVER A DECADE AND I HAVE
SEEN HOW IT FAILED LIKE HOW
MANY PEOPLE ARE KILLED IN A
TOWNSHIP WITH SPD. HOW SPD
REACTS TO PROTEST, TO WHETHER
ALL SUPERS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
FOR EGREGIOUS, UNNECESSARY HARM
REMEMBER THAT A POLICE OFFICER
KILLED A PEDESTRIAN WHEN HE
STEPPED ACROSS A CROSSWALK IN
JANUARY. WE ARE STILL WAITING I
THAT CASE FOR SPD TO ANNOUNCE A
OUTCOME TO WHAT SHE WAS
STRAIGHTFORWARD INTERNAL
INVESTIGATION. THE CITY NEEDS T
ASK THE COURT TO LIFT PART OF
THE CONSENT DECREE. TO DO THIS,
IT HAS TO CLEAR THE REFORM
PROCESS, A GREAT SUCCESS. LET'S
BE HONEST. THE PROCESS HAS NOT
WORKED TO IMPROVE THE MOST
CRITICAL AREAS OF POLICING. WHA
IT HAS DONE IS CREATE A LARGE,
EXPENSIVE BUREAUCRACY THAT
CREATES A FALSE APPEARANCE OF
ACCOUNTABILITY, WHILE STIFLING
THE VOICES OF THOSE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS WHO ARE MOST AFFECTED B
POLICING. PLEASE ABANDONED THE
PROGRAM AND SUPPORT EFFORTS TO
CREATE THE AFFECTED PERSONS
PROGRAM, CREATED BY PEOPLE, FOR
PEOPLE, THOSE AFFECTED BY
HARMFUL POLICING. THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CATHERIN
HOLM . THEY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
ANNA POWELL.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR HERBOLD
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. M
NAME IS CATHERINE HOLMES AND I
AM THE WEAPON REGION'S DEPUTY
MANAGER. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO
COMMENT WITH CONCERNS
SURROUNDING THE DEACTIVATION
PROPOSAL. THAT SAID, WE
APPRECIATE THE STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS AND MEETING THEM SO FAR
THEY HAVE OPERATED IN
WASHINGTON SINCE 2014 TO DELIVE
GROCERIES AND OTHER ESSENTIAL
GOODS. WE PARTNER WITH GROCERS
ACROSS THE LOCATIONS, HELPING
THEM GROW THEIR BUSINESS AND
THEIR CUSTOMERS AND SUPPORT
THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES. IN THE
REAR AND UNFORTUNATE CASE WHER
A SHOPPER NEEDS TO BE REMOVED
FROM OUR PLATFORM, WE HAVE A
THOROUGH DEACTIVATION PROCESS I
PLACE. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR
THAT THE SAFETY OF INSTACART
SHOPPERS, CUSTOMERS, AND
RETAILERS IS PARAMOUNT. WHEN
SIGNING UP TO SHOP, SHOPPERS
AGREED TO THE INSTACART
CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT AND ACCESS
THERE IS NO SITUATION WHERE A
SHOPPER WOULD BE DEACTIVATED
WITHOUT FIRST BEING SUSPENDED,
AND AN INVESTIGATION INTO --
DEPENDING ON THE ALLEGED
VIOLATION, A SHOPPER MAY EVEN
RECEIVE MULTIPLE NOTICES BOTH
FOR A SUSPENSION OCCURS. THE
SHOPPER HAS THE RIGHT TO REQUES
AN APPEAL AND THE AVERAGE
APPEAL RESPONSE TIME IS LESS
THAN 12 HOURS. WE LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUING TO WORK ON THESE
PROPOSED ORDINANCES WITH OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THE
COMMITTEE CAN REMAIN FAIR. THAN
YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER
IS ANNA POWELL, FOLLOWED BY COC
WEBER.
>> HELLO, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. M
NAME IS POWELL AND I -- A
TECHNOLOGY COMPANY THAT EMPOWER
YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. WE TAKE
THE ACTIVATION SERIOUSLY AND WE
ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE ANY
DASHER WHO IS DEACTIVATED HAS A
OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL THAT. IT
CAN BE DONE ON OUR WEBSITE.
THOUGH WELL-INTENTIONED, WE WAN
TO MAKE SURE THIS WILL DOES NO
RUIN OUR ABILITY TO ACT QUICKLY
IN RARE INSTANCES OF FRAUD OR
OTHER HARMFUL BEHAVIORS FOR
IMMEDIATE DEACTIVATION THAT IS
NECESSARY TO PROTECT MERCHANTS
AND CUSTOMERS. WE ALSO HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE BROAD
DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS, SUCH A
UNSAFE ESCALATION -- AS WELL A
A BROAD DEFINITION OF
DEACTIVATION, WHICH WOULD
ESSENTIALLY INCLUDE ANY
RESTRICTION TO ACCESSING THE
PLATFORM, LIKE IN THE INSTANCE
OF A SEVERE WEATHER EVENT. WE
APPRECIATE THE PROGRESS THAT HA
BEEN MADE ON THE BILL AND WE
HOPE TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH
THE COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY
ADVOCATES TO HELP SHAPE THIS
POLICY, TO KEEP PLATFORMS LIKE
OURS SAFE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS COCO WEBER. SHE WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY JILL WILLIAMS.
>> MY NAME IS COCO. I AM CALLIN
TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF MEDICAL
PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ASKING TH
COUNCIL TO NOW EXTEND -- THOSE
WHO ARE SEEKING HELP AROUND FIR
SERVICES. THIS MEDICAL
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE A
SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE [
INAUDIBLE ] WHO WAS RESPONDING
TO AN OVERDOSE AND THEY WERE
THERE TO GIVE CHEST COMPRESSION
AND THEY WERE FORCED TO LEAVE
THE SPACE BY A POLICE OFFICER.
IT DID NOT MATTER THAT THEY WER
EXPLAINING THEY WERE A MEDICAL
PROFESSIONAL. THEY WERE STILL
FORCED TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT
SITUATION. OVERALL, THERE HAS
BEEN -- WHEN WE CRIMINALIZE
SERVICES AROUND MEDICAL CARE,
THAT IT IS GOING TO INEVITABLY
LEAD TO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
OF PEOPLE DYING BECAUSE THEY
WILL NOT WANT TO ACCESS SERVICE
WHEN IT MEANS THERE WILL BE
OFFICERS INVOLVED. I AM ASKING
YOU, FOR MYSELF, TO PLEASE DO
YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND RUN THE
SOCIAL JUSTICE TOOLKIT BEFORE
PUTTING THE -- EVERYBODY HERE
IS COMMITTED TO HAVING A MORE
EQUITABLE COUNCIL AND EQUITABLE
POLICYMAKING AND THE WAY WE DO
THAT IS BY RUNNING THAT TOOLKIT
THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE SHOUL
BE WAITING TO SEE THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AFTER W
PUT THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU. RU
THE TOOLKIT. SEE WHAT THE
CONSEQUENCES WILL BE. THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS JILL WILLIAMS AND JILL IS
SHOWING IS NOT PRESENT, SO WE
WILL MOVE DOWN TO OUR LAST
SPEAKER THAT SIGNED UP, WHO IS
AIDAN CARROLL.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE
DEACTIVATION PROTECTIONS, AND
ALSO AM AGAINST THE FIREFIGHTER
OWN BECAUSE THE FIREFIGHTERS AR
NOT ALIGNED ON THIS AND THERE
ARE OTHER WAYS TO ESTABLISH A
ZONE WITHOUT CRIMINAL
PUNISHMENT FOR BREAKING A
PERIMETER. THERE CAN BE A SAFET
PERIMETER. IF THEY CARE ABOUT
THE -- THEY WILL NOT CREATE [
INAUDIBLE ] TO THE JAIL. WE
NEED TO DECREASE CONTACT BETWEE
SPD AND THE PUBLIC AND SPD --
WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE
INCIDENT IN RED SQUARE, WHERE
THEY WERE SHOT ON INAUGURATION
DAY, THERE WAS SOMEONE HOLDING
THE WOUND -- AND THE POLICE,
ENFORCEMENT, AND TOLD THEM TO
GET AWAY, EVEN AT RISK OF THEM
BLEEDING OUT. THE POLICE -- [
INAUDIBLE ] -- I WILL ENCOURAG
YOU TO READ THE FULL THING. A
FIREFIGHTER ALSO REALLY
UNDERSTAND THE ABOLITIONIST
PERSPECTIVE. EVERYBODY HAS
SOMETHING TO GAIN FROM SPEAKIN
ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY DIFFERENTLY
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
CRIMINALIZED ARE THOSE FROM THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT --
>> THANK YOU. THAT IS OUR LAST
PUBLIC SPEAKER THAT WE ARE
SHOWING IS PRESENT. WE DID HAVE
TWO THAT ARE SHOWING AS NOT
PRESENT AND NOT SEEING THAT
STATUS CHANGED. WE WILL CONCLUD
PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE INTO TH
ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. WITH THE
COURT PLEASE READ AND AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER ONE?
>> APPOINTMENT 02509. THE
APPOINTMENT OF ANTHONY,
COMMITTEE POLICE COMMISSION, FO
A TERM OF DECEMBER 31st, 2025.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. WE
HAVE THE COMMITTEE POLICE
COMMISSION COCHAIR TO PRESENT
THIS APPOINTMENT BY THE CPC.
THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT TO FILL
THE SEATTLE POLICE MANAGEMENT
ASSOCIATION SLOT, WHICH HAS BEE
VACANT FOR A BIT AND IT IS AN
APPOINTMENT MADE BY THE CPC AS
REQUIRED BY THE 2017
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE. THE
COCHAIR, WOULD YOU PLEASE DO
SOME INTRODUCTION REMARKS ABOUT
THE WORK THE CPC DOES AND THEN
PRESENT THE APPOINTMENT?
>> YES, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR HERBOLD AND MEMBERS OF TH
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION TODAY OF ANTHONY
TO THE POSITION OF THE POLICE
COMMISSION. I AM THE ASSISTANT
ATTORNEY GENERAL I AM A
VOLUNTEER FOR THE CPC
COMMISSIONER AND THE COCHAIR OF
THE COMMISSION. A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE COMMISSION, AS YOU
KNOW, IN 2010, THERE WAS A
SHOOTING DEATH AND THERE WERE
OTHER SERIOUS INCIDENTS
INVOLVING POLICING PEOPLE OF
COLOR. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS
PUBLIC CONCERN OVER THE USE OF
BIAS AND EXCESSIVE FORCE. AFTER
A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION, THE
CITY OF SEATTLE ENTERED INTO A
CONSENT DECREE IN 2012 AND OUT
OF THAT CONSENT DEGREE CAME AN
MOU, WHICH CREATED THE
COMMISSION. IN 2017, UNDER THAT
ORDINANCE THAT CHAIR HERBOLD
JUST REFERENCED, THE CITY MADE
THE COMMISSION A PERMANENT AND
INDEPENDENT MEMBER OF THE
SEATTLE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM,
ALONGSIDE THE OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE OFFICE O
INSPECTOR GENERAL. AT ONE OF TH
PARTNERS, IN THE SYSTEM, OUR
VISION IS THAT THE SPD AND
SEATTLE COMMUNITIES ARE ALIGNE
WITH GOALS OF SAFETY, RESPECT,
AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND OUR
MISSION IS TO LISTEN AND BUILD
COMMON GROUND AMONG THOSE
AFFECTED BY POLICING IN SEATTLE
WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
OUR ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS TO
ENSURE THAT THE POLICE IN
SEATTLE ARE ROOTED IN
CONSTITUTION AND CENTERED IN
JUSTICE AND EQUITY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE ARE THRE
APPOINTING AUTHORITIES FOR CBC
COMMISSIONERS. THERE IS THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE CITY
COUNCIL, AND THE CPC ITSELF. IN
THE ORDINANCE, THEY ESTABLISHED
-- INCLUDING POSITIONS WITHIN
THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION .
DO NOT THINK IT IS A COINCIDENC
THAT HAVING THOSE
REPRESENTATIVES AT THE TABLE HA
HELPED THE CPC AND THE COMMUNIT
WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE A LOT
OF RESULTS OVER THE COURSE OF
THE CONSENT DECREE. AS THE
COMMISSION HAS SAID, FOLLOWING
THE RECENT MOTION, FILED BY THE
CITY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE TO ENTER INTO A
TRANSITION AGREEMENT, POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY IS NEVER OVER.
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
COMMUNITY-BASED POLICE OVERSIGH
WILL ONLY BECOME MORE IMPORTANT
IN A POST CONSENT DECREE WORLD
AND THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO
DO, INCLUDING ON RACIAL
DISPARITY, USE OF FORCE AND
CROWD CONTROL, AND PARTICULARLY
ON POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
MECHANISMS THROUGH A CONTRACT.
THAT IS WHY AM PLEASED TO
INTRODUCE ANTHONY OF SPMA. THE
ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT LAST
YEAR, WHICH LED TO A LOT OF
BREAKTHROUGHS ON ACCOUNTABILITY
MECHANISMS THAT THE CPC IS
HOPEFUL TO SEE AS A BASELINE IN
THE NEXT CONTRACT. SO, THE CPC
IS HAPPY TO WELCOME HIM INTO
THE COMMISSION AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO HIS CONTRIBUTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATIO
OF HIS APPOINTMENT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK
YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE
IN THIS CAPACITY. I WANT TO JUS
LIFT UP THE REMARKS OF COCHAIR
MERKEL AND THE S BMA AGREEMENTS
AND HOW THAT PROGRESS IS LEADIN
US TO A BETTER PLACE AS IT
RELATES TO THE CONSENT DECREE
AND ACCOUNTABILITY MORE BROADLY
AND WE HOPE YOU AND OTHER
MEMBERS OF SPMA SAW HOW THE
CITY FILINGS WITH THE COURT
LIFTED UP THAT WORK AND
CELEBRATED IT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT
OVER TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO SAY
FEW WORDS ABOUT YOUR INTEREST I
SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY.
>> SURE. THANK YOU, CHAIR
HERBOLD. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF
YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU THIS MORNIN
IN REFERENCE TO MY APPOINTMENT.
EXCUSE ME. I KNOW THAT THE WORK
THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION
DOES IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR
ARE THE ADVOCATE AS THE
COMMISSION FOSTERS RELATIONSHIP
WITH AND COLLABORATES WITH THE
VARIOUS COMMUNITIES IN SEATTLE.
I KNOW THAT THE ROLES OF THE
COMMISSIONERS IS TO ENGAGE WITH
THE COMMUNITY, TO HEAR THEIR
CONCERNS ABOUT POLICING WITH
SEATTLE AND TO WORK WITH THEM T
CONSIDER WHAT POLICING SHOULD
LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD, AS
WELL AS HOW TO IMPROVE OUR
POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS. I D
UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF TH
WORK THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION DOES AND I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO SERVING AS A
COMMISSIONER. WITH THAT, I WANT
TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME AND YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
>> TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN
PERSON AND BEING WILLING TO
SERVE ON THE COMMISSION. I HAVE
A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE. I SEE
THAT SINCE 2000 TO NOW, YOU HAV
BEEN SERVING AS A LIEUTENANT .
ACTUALLY, SINCE 2017. ONE OF
YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS ON THE
FORCE REVIEW UNIT. SO, COULD YO
PLEASE TELL US A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THAT WORK?
>> SURE. SO, I WAS ASSIGNED IN
THE FORCE AS THE ACTING CAPTAIN
SO, I RAN THE UNIT BASICALLY.
THE MAIN FUNCTION OF THAT UNIT
IS ALL APPLICATIONS OF FORCE
USED BY ANY OFFICER. IT GETS
REVIEWED BY THAT UNIT THAT WE
HAVE AT VARIOUS LEVELS FROM TYP
I FORCE, WHICH IS VERY LOW-LEVE
AND VERY MINOR, LIKE SOMEBODY
COMPLAINED ABOUT HANDCUFF
APPLICATION PAIN, UP TO TYPE II
WHICH IS ABOUT INJURY UNLESS
GLEEFUL DEVICES AND THEN A
SERIOUS INJURY, TO INCLUDING A
SHOOTING. AND THEN AS THE
CAPTAIN OF THAT UNIT, I HAVE
RESPONSIBILITIES TO CHAIR THE
REVIEW BOARDS, WHICH MET EVERY
TUESDAY AND I SPOKE WITH FELLOW
BOARD MEMBERS . WE WOULD REVIEW
TYPE II USES OF FORCE TO ENSURE
THEY WERE CONSISTENT WITH OUR
POLICY LAWS AND TRAINING AND IF
THERE WERE ANY ISSUES OR
CONCERNS, TO GET THOSE ADDRESSE
THROUGH THE PROPER OFFICE OF
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY OR
POTENTIALLY A TRAINING ISSUE OR
MAYBE A POLICY GAP MATTER TO
ADDRESS. THEN I ALSO SET IT IN
-- I COCHAIRED WHEN WE HAD TO
REVIEW TYPE III USE OF FORCE.
THOSE WERE RUN BY OUR ASSISTANT
CHIEF OF THE BUREAU, THE CHIEF
CORONER. I WAS THERE TO OFFER
ANY SUGGESTIONS OR INSIGHT. THA
PROCESS , I LEARNED A LOT. I
LEARNED ABOUT WHAT IT MEANT TO
BE PART OF A COMMITTEE AND
CHAIRING A COMMITTEE AM LOOKING
FOR DIFFERENT INPUT INTO
FLUSHING OUT CONCERNS OR ISSUES
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF HO
DO WE REMEDY SOMETHING THAT
NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
>> THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE
RELEVANT AND HELPFUL
INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY, I APPRECIATE THE
RELEVANT EXPERIENCE IN
REVIEWING USE OF FORCE FOR THE
DEPARTMENT, AND, AGAIN, I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND THIS I
REALLY IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP TO
MOVE THE CITY FORWARD AND I
APPRECIATE THE UNDERSTANDING
WITH YOUR INTEREST AND YOUR
OBJECTIVES AND GOALS PLAYING
THIS ROLE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I AM NOT
SEEING ANY. CHECKING VIRTUALLY
ARE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. I
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND THE
CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENT
02509 . IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECONDED.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND
CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENT
02509. THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDEREN?
>> YES.
>> PFIZER LEWIS?
>> YES.
>> CHAIR HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> THE APPOINTMENT WILL MOVE ON
TO THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING ON
MAY 16th AND CONGRATULATIONS AN
THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE READ AN AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER TWO.
>> THIS IS ONE'S -- AND
ORDINANCE RELATING TO
APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT AMENITING
GORDON EDES 126725 WHICH ADOPTE
THE 2026 BUDGET. THEY ARE
RATIFYING AND CONFIRMING CERTAI
TRANSECTS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD
MORNING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US TODAY. WE HAVE THE INTERIM
DIRECTOR TO PRESENT THIS
LEGISLATION. WOULD YOU PLEASE
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND AS A
BACKGROUND, THE LEGISLATION IS
LOOKING AT FUNDS IN THE 2023
ADOPTED BUDGET AND AFTER YOUR
OBJECTIONS, YOU CAN LEAD TO THE
DISCUSSION AND LET US KNOW WHAT
WE NEED TO KNOW HERE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR HERBOLD AND
COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME FOR THE
RECORD IS ANNUALLY AND I AM THE
INTERIM DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I AM
HERE THIS MORNING TO DISCUSS
LEGISLATION THAT CAME ABOUT IN
THE 2023 BUDGET AND THE SPENDIN
PLAN AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MIGHT HAVE. TO START, THIS
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF YOU LIS
A PROVISO IN THE 2023 ADOPTED
BUDGET FOR THE HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT FUNDS, SPECIFICALLY
THIS PARTICULAR ONE, WHICH
SPECIFIES $200,000 SHOULD BE
APPROPRIATED FOR THE THERAPEUTI
SERVICES FOR WOMEN WHO HAVE
EXPERIENCED SEXUAL EXPLOITATION
THEY LOOKING AT THE SAFE,
HEALTHY, POWERFUL CLINIC FOR
THIS FUNDING. THE PROVISO
CONDITIONS AUTHORIZATION TO
RELEASE FUNDS TO COME AFTER THE
ANNOUNCEMENT OF AWARDS FOR THE
GENDER-BASED SERVICES ARE HERE.
THESE AWARDS WERE ANNOUNCED IN
DECEMBER OF 2022. IF APPROVED,
HSD WOULD CONTRACT WITH THE
SAFE, HEALTHY, EMPOWERED CLINIC
AND THAT MEETS ALL THE
CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE
COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION. THE SHE
CLINIC IS A PROGRAM OF BOTH --
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HARBORVIEW
MEDICAL CENTER. THE FUNDS WOULD
BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR
IRREGULAR MOBILE HEALTH UNIT FO
WOMEN ON -- THOSE FACING
VIOLENCE AND COMMERCIAL SEXUAL
EXPLOITATION. THE S.H.E. CLINIC
HAS A DROP IN SPACE AND
MULTIDISCIPLINARY HEALTHCARE AN
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES,
INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH CARE AN
SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND COUNSELING
AND LIFE SKILLS. ON-SITE, THERE
ARE ADVOCATES THAT ALSO PROVIDE
CRISIS INTERVENTION SUPPORT AND
WELL AS EMOTIONAL SUPPORT AND
INFORMATION ABOUT THE ABUSE AND
COMMERCIAL SEXUALLY EXPLOITED
RESOURCES. THAT CONCLUDES MY
PRESENTATION. I WOULD WELCOME
ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. JUST AS A
BACKGROUND, I WANT TO LIFT UP
THE FACT THAT THIS PROVISO WAS
SPONSORED BY THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT LAWRENCE DURING THE
CONSIDERATION LAST FALL AND I
WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER
LEADERSHIP IN THIS SUPPORTING
THIS FUNDING. JUST WONDERING,
WHERE ARE WE IN THE CONTRACTING
PROCESS. HSD STARTED THOSE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE S.H.E.
CLINIC IN ANTICIPATION OF THE
PROVISO LIFT. WHAT YOU KNOW
ABOUT THE EXPECTED TIMEFRAME
FROM MOVING FROM THOSE
CONVERSATIONS TO EXECUTING A
CONTRACT?
>> YES, THE CONTACT UNIT FOR TH
GROUP IS PREPARED TO ENTER THE
CONTRACT RIGHT AWAY. ONCE THE
PROVISO IS LIFTED THROUGH THIS
LEGISLATION.
>> GREAT. AND COULD YOU SPEAK A
LITTLE BIT TO -- WITH THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS
SUBJECT TO ONGOING DISCUSSIONS
RIGHT NOW -- BUT CAN YOU SPEAK
PROBABLY TO THE EXPECTED
PERFORMANCE OUTCOMES?
>> OH, I'M A BIT UNFAMILIAR,
I'M SORRY, TO TALK SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT THAT THAT WE CAN PROVIDE
THAT TO THE COMMITTEE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD BE HAPPY
TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. AND THEN,
UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A
COLLABORATIVE PROGRAM RUN BY
COMMENTS AND HARBORVIEW, CAN YO
JUST HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THE
CONTRACT WILL BE STRUCTURED.
WILL THERE BE ONE CONTRACT AND
SOME GRANT --
>> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
THE CONTRACT IS DIRECTLY WITH
AURORA COMMONS AND THEY PROVIDE
A NUMBER OF STAFF AND AN ARRAY
OF SERVICES IN THE PHYSICAL
MOBILE UNIT. HARBORVIEW ALSO HA
ITS OWN STAFF AND PERSONNEL
THAT WILL COME ON SITE TO
PROVIDE SERVICES.
>> THANK YOU. SO, IS THE
HARBORVIEW COMPONENT FUNDED
SEPARATELY OR IS THERE A
SUBCONTRACT?
>> I BELIEVE SO.
>> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. CHECKING TO SEE IF THERE
ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
ANYTHING FOR MY COLLEAGUES? I A
SEEING NONE. IF THERE ARE NO
CONCERNS, I WOULD LIKE TO GET
THIS MOVING AND GET THIS BEFORE
THE FULL COUNCIL. WITH THAT, I
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDS THE ADOPTION OF
COUNCIL BILL HSD-021-A-002. IS
THERE A SECOND?
>> SECONDED.
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT 12 0560.
THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS. WILL THE CLERK PLEAS
CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDEREN?
>> YES.
>> VICE CHAIR LEWIS?
>> YES.
>> CHAIR HERBOLD?
>> FOUR YES.
>> THEY WILL MOVE THE BILL TO
FULL COUNCIL ON MAY 16th.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE READ AN
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE?
>> AGENDA ITEM 3, THE
LEADER/CO-LEAD CONTRACT UPDATE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CLERK. WE HAV
A COUPLE PRESENTERS TODAY. I
WOULD LIKE US TO GET STARTED
WITH YOUR INTRODUCTIONS AND THE
I WILL HAVE A COUPLE QUICK NOTE
TO START US OFF AND I WILL PASS
IT ON TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU. GIVE ME A SECOND
WHILE I PULL THIS UP.
>> I CAN INTRODUCE MYSELF. I AM
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PDA,
FORMALLY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER
ASSOCIATION.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE CHAI
HERBOLD AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS CLOSE CLAY CENTER AND I
SERVE AS A LOGISTIC ADVISER.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THIS IS A BACKGROUND. PDA SERVE
AS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE
LEAD, WHICH IS A VOLUNTARY
COLLABORATION AMONG MULTIPLE
JURISDICTIONS, WHO IS SUMMONED
ONTO A MEMORANDUM OF
UNDERSTANDING BACK IN 2010, AS
WELL AS WITH AGENCIES WHO
PROVIDE SERVICES UNDER
SUBCONTRACTS TO THE PDA. POLICY
AND GUIDANCE ARE PROVIDED BY TH
POLICY COORDINATING GROUP, WHIC
I AM A NUMBER MEMBER FROM THE
KING COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND KING
COUNTY COUNCIL AND MAYOR S
OFFICE AND CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE AND KING COUNTY
PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE AND SPD AND
THE KING COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFIC
THAT IS NOT ALL-INCLUSIVE, BUT
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
REPRESENTATIVES ON THE POLICY
COORDINATING GROUP. IN 2019, TH
COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION
31916, WHICH DECLARED OUR
EQUIPMENT TO ENSURING THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT REIMBURSED --
RECEIVED PUBLIC FUNDING
SUFFICIENT TO ACCEPT ALL
PRIORITY QUALIFYING REFERRALS
CITYWIDE. IN 2021, IN RESPONSE
TO THAT STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIV
INTENT, THEY APPROVED LEAD
RESEARCH AND PREVENTED THE LEAD
SCALE STUDY, WHICH, WITH THE
HELP OF ESSENTIAL STAFF AND THE
NUMBER OF REFERRALS THAT MIGHT
BE EXPECTED, AND THE FUNDING
THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO EXPAN
PREARREST DIVERSION. THEY HAVE
CONSISTENTLY ACTED TO SUPPORT
AND EXPAND LEAD, EVEN IN
DIFFICULT BUDGET ENVIRONMENTS,
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NOT YET REACHE
THE COMMITMENT TO FUND LEAD AT
SCALE. I'M REALLY GLAD TO HAVE
HSD AND PDA WITH US TO DISCUSS
THE NEW LEAD AND CO-LEAD
CONTRACT. MY OFFICE SHARED THAT
CONTRACT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS
YESTERDAY . I KNOW THAT THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND
PDA HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION
FOR SOME TIME ABOUT UPDATING
THIS CONTRACT, PARTICULARLY THE
PERFORMANCE METRICS. THE GOAL I
TO GATHER INFORMATION THAT WILL
HELP THE COUNCIL AND I
UNDERSTAND MORE PRECISELY THE
COUNCIL AND I WILL UNDERSTAND
THE IMPACT OF LEAD AT LEAD IN
SEATTLE, AS WELL AS ANSWER
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INVESTMENT
IN LEAD OVER TIME. WITH THAT, I
WILL PASS THAT BACK TO YOU TO
GET IT STARTED ON THE
PRESENTATION AND I THINK WE
WILL HOLD QUESTIONS THAT WE
MIGHT HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE
PRESENTATION. I WILL LET YOU GE
TO IT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ON BEHALF
OF HSD, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK
THE COMMITTEE FOR HAVING US HER
TO PRESENT ABOUT OUR WORK WITH
LEAD AND CO-LEAD. THIS
PRESENTATION WILL PROVIDE AN
OVERVIEW OF THE 2023 CONTRACT
FOR BOTH THE LEAD AND CO-LEAD
PROGRAMS THAT WAS RECENTLY
EXECUTED BETWEEN HSD AND PURPOS
DIGNITY ACTION OR PDA, ALSO
FORMALLY KNOWN AS PUBLIC
DEFENDER ASSOCIATION. ALSO,
BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, I WANT T
THANK TARA FOR JOINING US.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO START OFF
PROVIDING AN INTRODUCTION ON TH
ROLE AS ONE OF THE LARGEST
CONTRIBUTORS OF SEATTLE'S SAFET
NET. I WILL STEP INTO A
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LEAD AND
CO-LEAD PROGRAM MODELS AND THEN
PROVIDE DETAILS ON THE CONTRACT
PERFORMANCE METRICS BEFORE
CLOSING OUT BY SHARING
INFORMATION ON THE OVERALL
CONTRACT BUDGET AND THE AMOUNT
SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED TO LEAD
AND CO-LEAD AND WE WILL TAKE
QUESTIONS. SO, BEFORE GETTING
INTO THE CONTRACT, I WANT TO
SHARE MORE ABOUT HSD. OUR
DEPARTMENTS MISSION IS TO
CONNECT PEOPLE WITH RESOURCES
AND SOLUTIONS DURING TIMES OF
NEED , SO WE CAN ALL LIVE,
LEARN, WORK, AND TAKE PART IN
STRONG, HEALTHY COMMUNITIES. HS
WORKS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS MISSIO
THROUGH SIX IMPACT AREAS, WHICH
YOU CAN SEE HERE. PREPARING YOU
FOR SUCCESS, SUPPORTING
AFFORDABILITY AND LIVABILITY,
ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS,
PROMOTING PUBLIC HEALTH,
SUPPORTING SAFE COMMUNITIES, AN
PROMOTING HEALTHY AGING. THE
LONG-STANDING PROGRAM OF THE
PORTFOLIO SUPPORTS SAFE
COMMUNITIES. THAT IS THE LEAD
PROGRAM, WHICH HAS BEEN
ALTERNATELY KNOWN AS LET
EVERYONE ADVANCE WITH DIGNITY
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTED
DIVERSION PROGRAM. THIS IS A
PROGRAM THAT HAS LAW ENFORCEMEN
OFFICERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS
REFER PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN
LOW-LEVEL OFFENSES THAT ARE
RELATED TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
CHALLENGES OR INCOME INSTABILIT
TO COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES
INSTEAD OF JAIL AND PROSECUTION
THIS IS INCLUDING THE OFFICERS
MAKING PRE-BOOKING ARREST
DIVERSIONS. THIS PROGRAM IS
HERE TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS WIT
SERVICES TO BETTER THEIR
SITUATION AND TO REDUCE HARMFUL
IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORHOODS,
BUSINESSES, AND VULNERABLE
RESIDENTS. COLEADERS A SECOND
UNRELATED PROGRAM THAT LAUNCHED
IN 2020 THAT PROVIDES
TEMPORARILY LODGING AN INTENSIV
CASE SERVICES TO THOSE WHO ARE
UNSHELTERED. PDA DEVELOPED THE
LEAD PROGRAM AND IS CENTRAL IN
IMPLEMENTING AND PROJECT
MANAGING IT. THEIR WORK INCLUDE
VARIOUS SUBCONTRACTS WITH
SERVICE PROVIDERS AND
STAKEHOLDERS, ENSURING NEEDS AR
UNDERSTOOD AND ADDRESSED, AND
IDENTIFYING RESOURCE GAPS AND
DEVELOPING ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS
TO INSURE LEAD AND CO-LEAD
CLIENTS CAN SUCCEED. AS
MENTIONED, LEE DISCOVERED UNDER
AND INTRICATE JURISDICTIONAL
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BY
POLICY COORDINATING GROUP TO
WHICH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM
REPORTS. THE GOVERNING BOARDS
SETS POLICY AND APPROVES IT FOR
THE LEAD WORK. BEFORE GETTING
INTO THE DETAILS OF THE CONTACT
WANTED TO PROVIDE MORE CONTEXT
AND SET THE TABLE FOR THE
DISCUSSIONS THAT GUIDED ITS
DEVELOPMENT. LEAD HAS GROWN
INCREASINGLY COMPLEX OVER TIME
AS IT ADVANCED IN SCALE. HSD
ORIGINALLY FUNDED PDA FOR LEAD
IN 2014 AT $830,000 AND
YEAR-OVER-YEAR, THE CONTRACT HA
GROWN AS LEAD EXPANDED WITH THE
2023 ALLOCATION STANDING AT
NEARLY $16.6 MILLION. HAVING
THIS COMPLICITY WAS THE LAUNCH
OF HER LEAD IN 2020. THIS
DEVELOPED DURING THE COVID-19
PANDEMIC WHEN MANY OF THE
SERVICES AND SUPPORT THEY RELIE
ON BECAME INACCESSIBLE. PDA
DEVELOPED CO-LEADER SO THESE
INDIVIDUALS COULD CONTINUE
RECEIVING INTENSIVE CASE
MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS TEMPORAR
LODGING. HSD PROVIDED FUNDING B
FULLY INTEGRATING CO-LEAD INTO
THE CITIES FOR FOLIO IN 2022.
GIVEN THIS GROWTH AND COMPLEXIT
AND THE PRIMARY GOALS ENTERING
THIS YEAR'S CONTRACT DEVELOPMEN
, WE WANT TO BRING CLARITY TO
THE PROGRAM MODELS AND
ARTICULATE HOW THEY SEPARATELY
SERVE THE BROADER MISSION AND
IMPROVE AND ENHANCE THE
PERFORMANCE METRICS TO CLEARLY
DETAIL THE ACTIVITIES AND
OUTCOMES OF LEAD AND CO-LEAD AN
DEMONSTRATING HOW THEY ARE A
COMPETENT THOSE OUTCOMES, AND
THEN PROVIDING SEPARATE BUDGETS
TO UNDERSTAND THE INDIVIDUAL
COST OF EACH PROGRAM PATHWAY.
ULTIMATELY, IT IS THE AND PDA
EXECUTED A SINGLE CONTRACT THAT
ENCAPSULATES IT ALL. THIS WAS
DONE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE TWO
PROGRAMS ARE RELATED AND IS IS
UNDER A LARGER MISSION TO
ADDRESS AND REDUCE PUBLIC
SAFETY CONCERNS IN SEATTLE. THE
PROGRAM SEEKS TO ACCOMPLISH THI
AT AN INDIVIDUAL, COMMUNITY, AN
SYSTEMS LEVEL, WAS NOT ONLY
SPEAKS TO THE DIRECT SERVICES
PROVIDED TO CLIENTS, BUT ALSO T
PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND POLICY
ADVOCACY HELD BY PDA. DESPITE
THE SHARED MISSION, LEADING --
THEY HAVE DISTINCT SERVICE
FFERINGS AND THEREFORE THE
CONTRACT FOR '23 PROVIDES
SEPARATE CONTRACTS TO SHOW HOW
THEY ALL ACHIEVE THE OVERARCHIN
MISSION. THIS PROVIDES AN
OVERVIEW OF THE LEAD AND CO-LEA
PROGRAM MODELS, DESCRIBING
ELIGIBILITY AND SERVICES AND
SERVICE PROVIDERS ASSOCIATED
WITH EACH, AND ELIGIBILITY
CRITERIA INCLUDES THOSE WHO
COMMIT ARE AT HIGH RISK OF
COMMITTING LAW VIOLATIONS. THE
SAME IS TRUE FOR CO-LEAD, WITH
THE ADDITION THAT A PERSON
RECEIVING SERVICES MUST BE
UNSHELTERED AND HAVING A HIGH
COMMUNITY IMPACT. LEAD SERVICES
INCLUDE OUTRAGED CHARACTER AND
COERCION -- AND ONCE ENROLLED,
THEY RECEIVE HARM REDUCTION
BASED CASE MANAGEMENT AND
RESOURCE AND NAVIGATION THAT IS
TAILORED TO THEIR SPECIFIC NEED
AND IDENTIFIED GOALS. WHAT THIS
MEANS IS INDIVIDUALS RECEIVE
COUNSELING AND ALSO CONNECTIONS
THROUGH CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY
TREATMENT, MEDICAL HEALTHCARE,
LEGAL SYSTEMS, COORDINATION, AN
REFERRALS TO SHELTERS AND
PERMANENT HOUSING AMONG OTHER
SPORTS. FLEX FUNDING IS
AVAILABLE TO CLIENT STOP THEM
AFFORD BASIC NEEDS, SUCH AS FOO
TRANSPORTATION AND MORE. TO
SUPPORT THEIR JOURNEY ON
BEHAVIOR CHANGE AND PDA
SUBCONTRACTS WITH EVERGREEN
TREATMENT SERVICES REACH
PROGRAM, WHERE CASE MANAGEMENT
SERVICES ARE THERE, WHILE PDA
HAS OVERALL PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, PDA
OPERATES LEAD LEGAL SERVICES TO
ASSIST IN RESOLVING BARRIERS
RELATED TO CRIMINAL HISTORY AND
CIVIL LEGAL NEEDS. TURNING TO
THE CO-LEAD, THEY HAVE LODGING
WITH STAFF AVAILABLE FOR 24/7
SITE. ONCE IN A COLDLY BAD, THE
RECEIVE CASE MANAGEMENT AND
HOUSING NAVIGATION TO LOCATE
OPPORTUNITIES INTO PERMANENT
HOUSING. THEY CAN ALSO ACCESS
SIMILAR LEGAL SERVICES TO LEAD
PARTICIPANTS. A KEY DIFFERENCE
HERE IS THAT PDA PROVIDES THE
MAJORITY OF STAFFING HERE,
INCLUDING AFTERCARE SERVICES TO
INDIVIDUALS EXITING FROM CO-LEA
US INTO HOUSING TO MAKE SURE
THEY RECEIVE GUIDANCE AND
RESOURCES TO REMAIN STABLY
HOUSED. THIS INCLUDES REGULAR
CHECK INS WITH CASE MANAGERS AN
LEGAL CONSULTATION, EVICTION
PREVENTION, ASSISTANCE, AND
MORE. IN TERMS OF OTHER
PROVIDERS INVOLVED WITH CO-LEAD
I MENTIONED PDA STAFF PROVIDES
THE OUTREACH CASE MANAGEMENT
AFTERCARE SUPPORT AND ALSO
EMPLOYS A MEDICAL DIRECTOR TO
CARE FOR THOSE WITH LOW ACUITY
NEEDS AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE
SUBCONTRACTORS OF CO-LEAD FUNDS
WE DELIVER CARE. THEY OFFER
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TO
DE-ESCALATE SITUATIONS
THREATENING THE SAFETY OF
CLIENTS AND STAFF. THE
FACILITIES HERE -- THEY PROVIDE
CO-LEAD PROPERTY MANAGEMENT
SERVICES. AS FOR HOW
INDIVIDUALS FIND THEIR WAY INTO
THESE PROGRAMS COME THE NEXT TW
SLIDES WILL SHARE INFORMATION O
HOW REFERRALS ARE MADE.
REGARDING LEAD, LAW ENFORCEMENT
REFERRALS ARE PRIORITIZED AND
THERE ARE THREE SPECIFIC
PATHWAYS . ARREST DIVERSION
REFERRALS OCCUR WHEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT REFERS AN INDIVIDUA
TO LEAD RATHER THAN ARRESTING
THEM FOR CRIME. SOCIAL CONTACT
REFERRALS ARE ALSO KNOWN AS
PREARREST DIVERSION REFERRALS
AND OCCUR WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT
REFERS THOSE WHO BELIEVE ARE
ENGAGING IN VIOLATIONS, BUT HAV
NO PROBABLE CAUSE FOR ARREST.
AND A THIRD PATHWAY ARE IMMUNIT
REFERRALS, WHICH DO NOT INVOLVE
LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT ARE
IDENTIFIED VIA NEIGHBORHOOD
GROUPS AND BUSINESSES AND
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS
AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. IN 2023
PDA EXPECTS THE MAJORITY OF
REFERRALS TO COME FROM THE NINE
FOCUS IMPACT AREAS AS SEEN ON
THE SLIDE. THE AREAS HERE WERE
SELECTED TO CONTINUE ONGOING
LEAD WORK WHEN -- THEY HAVE
ENGAGED WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS
FOR SOME TIME. FOR INSTANCE,
COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, THE BALLARD
AND UNIVERSITY DISTRICT FOCUSED
AREAS WILL BUILD ON EXISTING
CASE CONFERENCING WORK WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDERS. THE
CHINATOWN-INTERNATIONAL DISTRIC
WILL CAPITALIZE ON ADDITIONAL
FEDERAL FUNDING THAT LEADERS
RECEIVED AND THEN THE WORK WITH
THE SODO BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT
AREA IS BUILDING WORK TO ADDRES
INDIVIDUALS WITH A PARTICULARLY
STRONG IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
AS FOR CO-LEAD, REFERRALS WILL
COME IN VIA THE FIRST PATHWAY
HERE. ELIGIBLE CLIENTS HAVE BAD
AXES FOR UNSHELTERED LEAD
INDIVIDUALS THROUGH THE AREA
WORK AND SECONDLY, BEDS MAY ALS
BE ALLOTTED FOR PRIORITY
ENCAMPMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
RESPONSE. IN 2023, I WANTED TO
MENTION IT COUPLE EXAMPLES. PDA
MET THEM AVAILABLE TO
INDIVIDUALS SUPPORTED BY THE
THIRD AVENUE PRODUCT AND ALSO
THE MULTI-GENEROUS DICTION AT
SOUTHWEST MICHIGAN AND FIRST
AVENUE SOUTH. THE NEXT SLIDE
DISCUSSES THE PERFORMANCE
METRICS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN TH
CONTRACT THIS YEAR. AS YOU CAN
SEE, IT IS A FAIRLY ROBUST LIST
THIS IS AN AREA OF EXTREME
EMPHASIS FOR US AS WE ARE IN OU
CONTRACT DEVELOPMENT AT HSD AND
PDA COLLABORATED ON THESE
PRIMARILY TO INCREASE CLARITY O
LEAD AND CO-LEAD PERFORMANCE AN
THE ACTIVITIES AND OUTCOMES ITS
CLIENTS RECEIVE AS A RESULT OF
THOSE SERVICES. COLLECTIVELY, W
BELIEVE THESE METRICS WILL ALLO
HSD AND PDA TO SHARE LEAD
STORIES AND EFFECTIVENESS TO A
BROADER AUDIENCE. JUST A COUPL
NOTES ABOUT THE SLIDE. THE
COLUMN ON THE LEFT DISPLAYS
THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS
CARRIED OVER FROM THE 2022
CONTRACT, WHILE THE COLUMN ON
THE RIGHT HAS NEW METRICS
ADOPTED IN 2023. IN TERMS OF
THOSE CONTINUING 2022 METRICS,
WE HAVE INFORMATION ON REFERRAL
AND ENROLLMENTS INTO THE
PROGRAMS AND CASELOAD SLIDES AN
SUBSTANCE TREATMENT PROGRAMS
AND THE NUMBER OF OPERATIONAL
WORKGROUPS OR CASE CONFERENCING
MEETINGS HELD IN EFFORTS TO
EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON HOW TO
ACCESS LEAD AND CO-LEAD
SERVICES. AS FOR THE NEW METRIC
IN 2023, ON A MONTHLY BASIS,
THEY WILL REPORT ON A NUMBER OF
UNDUPLICATED INDIVIDUALS
REFERRED TO LEAD BY FOCUS IMPAC
AREAS, WHICH ALLOWS US TO BETTE
UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF NEED AN
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY
APPROACH. THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE
CLIENTS IN THOSE ESTABLISHED --
NUMBER OF SENSITIVE MEETING
WITH CASE MANAGERS AND ALSO THE
NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS HAVING A
SUBSTANTIVE MEETING IN LAST
MONTH. THIS MEETING, THOSE ARE
IN WHICH OUR CLIENT IS ACTIVELY
ENGAGED WITH A CASE MANAGER AND
THERE IS CHANGE BEHAVIOR AND
WORK TOWARDS ACHIEVING
IDENTIFIED GOALS. THE MONTHLY
METRICS INCLUDE THE CO-LEAD
OCCUPANCY RATE AND THE AVERAGE
CO-LEAD LENGTH OF STAY. IN
ADDITION, WE HAVE QUARTERLY
METRICS I WILL PROVIDE. INCLUDE
THE NUMBER OF UNDUPLICATED
CLIENTS ACHIEVING AT LEAST ONE
GOAL THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH A CASE MANAGER
AND THE NUMBER OF DUPLICATED
CLIENTS ACHIEVING GOALS BY A
SPECIFIC GOAL CATEGORY, JUST TO
PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE. A COUPLE
EXAMPLES HERE, HOUSING ACCESS,
AND ALSO BASIC NEEDS LIKE
OBTAINING CLOTHING AND
DOCUMENTATION. FINALLY, THE
NUMBER OF CO-LEAK AXES TO
PERMANENT HOUSING AND TEMPORARY
HOUSING AND RETURNS TO
HOMELESSNESS WILL ALSO BE
REPORTED. AS REPORTS PROVIDED,
HSD AND PDA LOOK FORWARD TO
COLLABORATING AND DISCOVERING
WHAT TRENDS THE DATA CAPTURES
AND TO KEEP AN EYE TOWARDS
FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. IN
TERMS OF THE PROGRAM BUDGET AND
STAFFING, THE TOTAL CONTRACT
BUDGET FOR DA 23 4092 IS NEARLY
$14.5 MILLION. IT IS IMPORTANT
TO NOTE HSD DOES HOLD THE
LICENSING AGREEMENT FOR ONE OF
THE COLEY FACILITIES AND IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE MONT
THE LICENSING FEE AND HSD HAS
ABOUT $2 MILLION TO PAY THOSE
COSTS. SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE
, THE CONTRACT LAYS OUT SEPARAT
ALLOCATIONS FOR EACH PROGRAM OF
THE $14.5 MILLION. THEY RECEIVE
ABOUT $9.5 MILLION WITH THE
COLEY TAB AND REMAINING $4.6
MILLION. THIS WILL ALLOW HSD IN
THE CITY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND
THE DISTINCT SERVICE COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH EACH AND THE
FUNDS ARE ROUGHLY 63 LEAD STAFF
WHICH INCLUDES 53 REACH STAFF
AND 10 PDA STAFF. AND THEY FUND
21 CO-LEAD STAFF, EXCUSE ME, A
PDA. TWO MORE SLIDES, WHICH HAS
A BREAKDOWN OF LEAD'S FUNDING
PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF SEATTLE
ROUGHLY $6.9 MILLION IS ONGOING
FUNDING. IN TERMS OF NON-SEATTL
FUNDING SOURCES, $1.7 MILLION
COMES FROM THE RECOVERY
NAVIGATOR PROGRAM AND $1.3
MILLION FROM THE KING COUNTY
MENTAL ILLNESS OR DRUG
DEPENDENCY DEPARTMENT AND OTHER
FROM TRUE BLOOD FUNDING. THERE
IS ALSO ONE-TIME FUNDING OF $1.
MILLION IS SECURED VIA THE
FEDERAL INSULATED APPRECIATIONS
AT PASSED LAST DECEMBER. THE
FINAL SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE
BREAKDOWN FOR CO-LEAD FUNDING.
THEY PROVIDE $4.6 MILLION TO PD
OF THIS AMOUNT. THERE IS
ONE-TIME FUNDING OF $1.25
MILLION TO SUPPORT THE
TRANSITION OF CO-LEAD FROM THE
HOTEL TO A TINY HOUSE VILLAGE.
THEY ARE SEARCHING FOR POTENTIA
PROPERTY THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE
A 72 UNIT TINY HOUSE VILLAGE
AND WE WILL PARTNER WITH PDA TO
EXPLORE THIS SHIFT. THEY ALSO
HAVE FUNDING SECURED BY THE KIN
COUNTY REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS
AUTHORITY. THIS INCLUDES A
PROJECTED 2.5 MILLION
ANTICIPATED TO CONTINUE
SUPPORTING THIS CO-LEAD AND TH
SECOND HALF OF 2023 AND,
FINALLY, THERE IS A ONE-TIME
FUNDING APPROPRIATION OF $2.7
MILLION SECURED VIA THE FEDERAL
CONSOLIDATION APPROPRIATIONS
ACT. WITH THAT, WE ARE HAPPY TO
TAKE QUESTIONS.
>> I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I
FAILED TO MAKE SPACE FOR THE
STAFF, WHO IS JOINING US
REMOTELY ON THIS PRESENTATION,
AND GIVE AND GORMAN, WHO IS WIT
US REMOTELY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PROVIDE ANY REMARKS THAT I
SHOULD HAVE MADE POSSIBLE
EARLIER.
>> THANK YOU, SHARE HER BOLD AN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONTRACT YOU
JUST HEARD ABOUT IS THE
FULFILLMENT OF A COMMITMENT THA
THEY MADE DURING A COUNCIL
BUDGET PROCESS. I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE HARD WORK
THAT HSD AND PURPOSE DIGNITY
ACTION PUT INTO DEVELOPING THE
CONTRACT. WE ARE VERY EXCITED
ABOUT THE SEPARATE FUNDING BEIN
IDENTIFIED FOR THE LEAD AND
CO-LEAD PROGRAMS. WE FEEL THIS
WILL BETTER ALLOW THE TRACKING
AND REPORTING OF GREAT PROGRAM
OUTCOMES. JUST, I WANT TO STAT
WE ON CENTRAL STAFF SO
APPRECIATE OUR GOOD RELATIONSHI
AND PARTNERSHIP WITH HS D AND
THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE AND WE
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK CANDIDL
WITH THEM ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES T
IMPROVE PERFORMANCE REPORTING,
WHICH YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT FOR
THE 2023 CONTRACT, AND
POTENTIALLY THIS WILL BE
ONGOING AND FUTURE CONTRACTS.
SO, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDG
AND THANK EVERYONE WHO
CONTRIBUTED TO THE 2023 CONTRAC
THAT COMMITTEES ABOUT. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU. SO, BEFORE I OPE
IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, TARA, DO
YOU HAVE ANY OBSERVATIONS OR
REFLECTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SHARE ABOUT THESE NEW
PERFORMANCE METRICS?
>> I ALWAYS SAY NO AND THEN I
SAY SOMETHING. I AM TRYING NOT
TO SAY NO. I THINK, OVERALL,
THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT
PARTNERSHIP AND REALLY
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS
BEEN DONE. WE ARE WANTING TO BE
TRANSPARENT AND PROVIDE ANY DAT
THAT THE COMMUNITY OR FUNDERS
WANT TO PROVIDE OR REQUEST OF
US. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT TH
FOCUS IMPACT AREAS AS WE ASK
COORDINATING GROUPS FOR GUIDANC
IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW WE
CAN MAKE THEM BEST . I THINK
THESE IMPACT AREAS WILL ALLOW
THAT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. I
JUST APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP
AND THE COORDINATION AND WE ARE
LOOKING AT THE GREAT WORK WE AR
DOING AND WE ALSO USE DATA TO
SEE WHERE WE NEED IMPROVEMENT O
ADJUSTMENTS. WE ARE LOOKING AT
ALL TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS BASE
ON THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVE.
THANK YOU.
>> I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE NUMBERS. ON PAGE --
LET ME SEE. ON PAGE 5, IT
STATES THAT THE 2023 LEAD
CONTRACT STANDS AT $16.6
MILLION. I AM ASSUMING THAT IS
REFERRING TO THE CITY CONTRACT?
>> YES, THAT IS REFERRING TO TH
CITY OF SEATTLE AMOUNT.
>> BUT COMPARING THAT NUMBER TO
WHAT IS DESCRIBED ON PAGE 12 ,
WHERE THE TOTAL PROJECT FOR LEA
IS 14.6 MILLION AND THE CITY OF
SEATTLE FUNDING IS ABOUT $9.9
MILLION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
I AM SURE THAT THERE IS AN
EXPLANATION FOR IT.
>> YEAH, THE EXPLANATION, THE
NUMBERS GET A LITTLE WONKY. TO
TALK ABOUT THE CITY PORTION, IT
IS $16.6 MILLION FOR THE LEAD
AND CO-LEAD. AGAIN, THE LEAD
PORTION SEEN ON THE SLIDE IS TH
$9.9 MILLION FOR LEAD. THERE IS
A $4.6 MILLION FOR CO-LEAD AND
THEN HELD SEPARATELY, THERE IS
$2 MILLION FOR THE CO-LEAD
LODGING FACILITY AND THE SLIDES
12 AND 13, THAT PROVIDES THE
INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS FOR ALL
FUNDERS FOR LEAD AND CO-LEAD.
THAT IS WHERE IT MIGHT GET
MURKY. THEY'RE ALL VERY CLOSE T
EACH OTHER.
>> ON PAGE 5, IT SAYS THE 2023
LEAD CONTRACT NOW STANDS AT
$16.6 MILLION. THAT IS INTENDED
TOSAY THAT THE COMBINED LEAD
AND CO-LEAD?
>> YEAH. APOLOGIES.
>> SO, JUST DIGGING INTO SOME
QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE NEW
PERFORMANCE METRICS, LOOKING TO
SEE WHETHER OR NOT MY COLLEAGUE
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL NOW
BUSTER WITH SOME OF MINE IF
FOLKS ARE WORKING ON WHAT THEY
MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN . ONE OF
THE NEW QUARTERLY METRICS IS TH
NUMBER OF CLIENTS ACHIEVING
GOALS BY GOAL CATEGORY. I WAS
WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE US
SOME FLAVOR ABOUT WHAT SOME OF
THOSE CATEGORIES ARE AND WHY IT
IS MEANINGFUL TO TRACK THEM
INDIVIDUALLY.
>> SURE. THE GOALS THAT WILL BE
INCLUDED IN THIS ARE, AGAIN,
THESE ARE GOALS IDENTIFIED WITH
CLIENTS AND THEIR CASE MANAGERS
AND THEY CAN INCLUDE THINGS LIK
MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH,
SUBSTANCE USE, FAMILY ,
COMMUNITY, AND CULTURE, HOUSING
LEGAL NEEDS, FINANCES AND
BENEFITS, AND FOUNDATIONAL,
WHICH ARE BASIC NEEDS LIKE
CLOTHING, FOOD, IDENTIFICATION
AND THIS IS ANOTHER POINT OF
EMPHASIS IN TRYING TO FIGURE OU
WHAT METRICS WE COULD INCLUDE I
THE CONTRACT TO TALK ABOUT
SPECIFIC OUTCOMES RELATED TO
LEAD AND CO-LEAD. FOR THE
CO-LEAD SIDE, IT IS IMPORTANT
THAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO A BE
. REALLY, WE ARE WANTING TO
BRING MORE CLARITY INTO WHAT IT
MEANS TO GO THROUGH LEAD
SERVICES, REALLY SPEAK TO THE
CLIENTS WHO ARE WORKING WITH TH
CASE MANAGERS AND IDENTIFYING
THE SPECIFIC GOALS AND WHO IS
ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEM AND WHAT
DOES IT LOOK LIKE AND HOW LONG
IT MIGHT TAKE FOR THEM TO
ACHIEVE. TARA, DO YOU WANT TO
SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE GOAL WORK
WORD DID THAT FAIRLY CAPTURE
IT?
>> LEAD IS A CLIENT-CENTERED
PROGRAM AND HARM REDUCTION
BASED, BUT WHEN YOU DO THAT,
YOU'RE REALLY ENGAGING AND
SEEING IMPACT FOR THE CLIENT
AND THE COMMUNITY. I GUESS, IN
TERMS OF THE METRICS YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT, NONE OF THIS IS
LINEAR. SOMEONE MAY WANT TO WOR
ON THEIR MENTAL HEALTH GOALS AN
THEN GO BACK AFTER THEIR BASIC
LEADS ONCE THEY COME AT A
TREATMENT OR SUPPORT, OR IT MAY
BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ALL
THESE GOALS ARE VERY IMPORTANT
CLIENT IDENTIFIED FOR THE MOST
PART, IF NOT ALL, AND REALLY
WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF
ENGAGEMENT, A LOT OF OUTREACH,
TO GET PEOPLE THERE. WE HAVE
FOUND, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHEN W
ARE IN LEAD WERE LODGING, YOU
CAN MEET A LOT OF THOSE GOALS A
LOT FASTER AND PEOPLE'S BASIC
NEEDS ARE MET AND STABILIZED
FASTER. ALL OF THESE TEND TO B
THE MOST COMMON GOALS THAT WE
SEE WITH CLIENTS THAT THEY
IDENTIFY FOR THEMSELVES WITH TH
HELP OF CASE MANAGERS.
>> SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
LEARNED ABOUT RECENTLY WHEN PDA
CALM TO TEST WITH A
PRESENTATION, IT MAY HAVE BEEN
THE ADVISORY GROUP MEETING, BUT
WE LEARNED ABOUT THE PROGRAM
OUTCOMES, SPECIFICALLY THE
"JUST CARE" OUTCOMES AROUND
HEALTH INSURANCE AND PRIOR TO
ENROLLING IN JUST CARE, WHICH I
A PANDEMIC ERA PROGRAM SERVING
THE SAME POPULATIONS CO-LEAD FO
THE VIEWING PUBLIC, PRIOR TO
ENROLLING , 41% OF PARTICIPANTS
HAD HEALTH INSURANCE AND THAT
FIGURE INCREASED TO 89% ONCE
THEY WERE ENROLLED, AND THIS IS
JUST AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
OUTCOME BECAUSE OF THE
CONNECTION AROUND HEALTH TOO,
TO ALL OTHER SOCIAL DETERMINANT
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT,
IMPROVING PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'M
WONDERING, IS THIS AN OUTCOME
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT,
INCLUDING IN THE CO-LEAD AND
LEAD PARTICIPANT METRICS?
>> IT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY
OUTLINED, BUT I DO THINK ONE OF
THE GREAT THINGS COMING OUT OF
THE CONTRACT OF THEM AT WORK WA
A COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE WORKIN
WITH EACH OTHER, TO EXPLORE
ADDITIONAL METRICS AND FINDINGS
THAT ARE RELATED TO BOTH
PROGRAMS AND REALLY SPELLING
THAT OUT. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW W
COULD COLLABORATE WITH THE
NATIONAL LEAGUES SUPPORT BUREAU
AND POTENTIAL SURVEY WORK AND
ALSO ANY EVALUATION WORK THAT I
GOING ON TO REALLY SHINE A LIGH
ON THAT AND WHAT SUCCESS MEANS
FOR THESE PROGRAMS.
>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD
RELATES TO HOW THEY EXPANDED
REPORTING DIMENSIONS. IT MIGHT
HELP US UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS
OF INCREMENTAL INCREASES IN
PROGRAM FUNDING. JUST WONDERING
WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE
POSSIBLE TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF
HOW MANY ADDITIONAL CLIENTS THE
PDA COULD TAKE ON AND HOW MANY
OF THEM COULD BE LIKELY TO
ACHIEVE AT LEAST ONE OF THEIR
GOALS TO FIND STABLE HOUSING
WITH A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DOLLAR
OF INCREASE. SO, THAT IS AN
IMPORTANT ANALYSIS THAT IF IT I
AVAILABLE, WITH THIS NEW
APPROACH, IT WILL HELP US IN
THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO LOOK
AT ADDITIONAL INCREMENTAL
INCREASES WITH THE HOPE THAT
WILL ALSO MEAN THE ADDITIONAL
ABILITY FOR LEAD AND CO-LEAD TO
HELP INDIVIDUALS.
>> I THINK THAT WE ARE CERTAINL
HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET CLOSER
TO THAT WITH THESE PERFORMANCE
METRICS. I DO ALSO COME ALONG
WITH THAT, WANT TO CALL OUT THE
IMPORTANT WORK WITH PROVIDING
SEPARATE BUDGETS FOR LEAD AND
CO-LEAD AND VIEWING THEM AS
DISTINCT BUT RELATED PROGRAMS.
THINK THAT WORK AND SEEING THE
EXPENDITURES COMING IN FOR EACH
ONE WILL REALLY BE HELPFUL IN
FIGURING OUT WHAT GOING TO SCAL
MEANS AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST
>> MAY I JUMP IN JUST TO GO
BACK? IN TERMS OF HEALTH
INSURANCE AND CONNECTIONS, THAT
IS BEING TRACKED ACCORDINGLY. I
WANTED TO CHECK WITH MY DATA
GUIDE FIRST. THAT IS IN THE
BENEFITS CATEGORY.
>> IT IS? OKAY, GREAT. THANK
YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> THANK YOU, I BROUGHT TO THE
TABLE SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN I
WANTED TO EXPAND ON SOME OF THE
ONES YOU ASKED. TALKING ABOUT
INCREMENTAL COSTS, I AM
INTERESTED IN MOVING TOWARD AN
UNDERSTANDING OF THE APPROXIMAT
COST TO SUPPORT ONE LEAD OR
CO-LEAD PARTICIPANT PER YEAR
OVER THE COURSE OF A PERSON'S
ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PROGRAMS. I
THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AND THA
IS WHAT MY CONSTITUENTS WANT TO
KNOW. YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN AND
SIMPLE MATH IF THERE ARE 700 --
THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT NUMBER.
YOU KNOW, THE 2023 PROGRAM IS
$9.9 MILLION, THAT IS ABOUT
14,000. YOU GET WHAT I AM TAKIN
ABOUT? THAT WAY, YOU KNOW WHAT
THE NEXT YEARS ASK MIGHT BE
BECAUSE THERE IS A POLICY
FRAMEWORK FOR BASICALLY -- IT
EXPLAINS THE INCREASES
YEAR-OVER-YEAR IN THIS FUNDING
AND I WANTED TO REFERENCE THAT
BIT. LET'S SEE HERE. THE
RESOLUTION 31916, WHICH WAS
ADOPTED IN 2019, ESTABLISHED A
PROGRAM GROWTH GOAL THAT SERVES
AS A POLICY FRAMEWORK AND IT
SAYS, QUOTE, THE CITY INTENDS
THAT THE LEAD PROGRAM OPERATE A
SCALE BY 2023, WITH SCALE
UNDERSTOOD TO MEAN THE PROGRAM
WILL HAVE APPROPRIATE FUNDING T
ACCEPT ALL PRIORITY QUALIFYING
SOCIAL CONTRACT REFERRALS
CITYWIDE. SO, THAT BASICALLY
MEANS IT IS GOING TO GROW TO TH
NEED, AND I THINK WE NEED TO
HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND BE
REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT
BECAUSE IT CAN SERVE AS A BLANK
CHECK IF WE ARE NOT CAREFUL
BECAUSE THE SAME RESOLUTION ALS
SAYS THAT SCALING WOULD BE
SUPPORTED THROUGH A SECURED MIX
OF PUBLIC FUNDING SOURCES,
INCLUDING CITY FUNDING, AND SOM
COMMENDATION OF COUNTY, STATE,
FEDERAL, AND MEDICAID FUNDING.
ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW ARE
WE DOING ON TRACKING THE OTHER
SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT ARE ALS
FEEDING INTO THE COMBINED
INVESTMENT THAT YOU SHOW ON
PAGE, I THINK IT IS 12, I
BELIEVE.
>> YEAH, WE HAVE COMMON PASS
CONTRACTS, WE HAVE HAD OTHER
FUNDING SOURCES. I THINK WE DO
WANT TO KEEP A REAL IMPORTANT
AND FINE EYE ON THOSE FINDINGS
THAT ARE COMING IN AND HOW THEY
CHANGE AS WELL AND WHETHER THE
RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE. I THIN
THAT IT IS ANOTHER CRITICAL
COMPONENT IN TELLING THE LEAD
AND CO-LEAD STORY OVERALL ABOUT
WHO ARE THE OTHER PARTNERS IN
THIS AND WHO IS FINDING THIS AN
HE WAS ENGAGED IN THIS AND HOW
CAN WE ALL WORK TOGETHER
AFFORDING IT? ANYTHING ELSE ON
THAT?
>> I THINK THOSE ARE EXCELLENT
POINTS. I WILL SAY AS BEING
INVOLVED IN THE LEAD FOR THE
PAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, TIME
FLIES. WE HAVE BEEN AND WE
STILL ARE, WE ARE DOING IT WITH
THE GUIDANCE OF POLICY
COORDINATING GROUPS, DENYING A
LOT OF HIGH QUALIFIED REFERRALS
BASED ON WHAT OUR FINDING IS
RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE A LOT --
FOR EXAMPLE, BASED ON THE
GUIDANCE WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, WE
ARE DENYING PEOPLE WHO ARE
COMMITTING CRIMES OR LAW
ENFORCEMENT REFERRALS. WE ARE
TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THOSE BUT
THOSE ARE TOUGHER OUTSIDE OF TH
FOCUS IMPACT AREAS. SO, THERE I
STILL A LOT OF DEMAND THAT
DIVERSIFYING FUNDING IS A GOAL
IN TRYING TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS
POSSIBLE WITH THE WORK WE ARE
DOING, REFERRING PEOPLE WHO ARE
BEYOND THE RESOURCES WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW. WE ARE TRYING TO
CONNECT TO OTHER PROGRAMS, BUT
OFTEN WILL BE FIVE IS A LOT OF
PROGRAMS LEAD IS THE LAST STOP.
THEY TRIED EVERYWHERE ELSE FIRS
AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR OUR HELP
WHETHER IT IS SERVICE PROVIDERS
OR LEAD PARTNERS.
>> OKAY, COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION
THAT WE APPROVED LAST FALL,
WHICH PROVIDED FOR $2 MILLION,
DID SAY THAT FUNDING TO EXPAND
LEADS CAPACITY, WHILE THEY
EXPLORE ONGOING FUNDING SOURCES
I THINK THAT IS BEING HELD BY
HSD. CAN WE EXPECT A REPORT,
MAYBE, WITHIN THE 2024 CONTRACT
, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGETING
PROCESS?
>> CERTAINLY. I CAN SEE WHAT WE
CAN ADD ON THAT FRONT.
>> OKAY.
>> IS THAT IT? YOU HAVE MORE?
>> SURE. I THINK WHAT I SON TO
SAY IS THAT I DO APPRECIATE THA
THIS CONTRACT SEEMS TO BE REALL
GEARED TOWARDS TIGHTENING UP
SOME OF THE PERFORMANCE METRICS
AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW OUR
INVESTMENT IS BEING SPENT AND I
ALSO AM LOOKING FORWARD TO
OFF-LINE OR IN THE CONTRACT,
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE
PARTICULAR OUTCOMES ARE BECAUSE
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
REPORTING HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS
ARE SERVED OR TOUCHED, ET
CETERA, AND WHAT ARE WE TRYING
TO ACCOMPLISH? THAT FALLS IN
LINE WITH WHAT COUNCIL HER BOLD
WAS SAYING ABOUT AN
IDENTIFIABLE OUTCOME WITH THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
INSURANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT. ANYWAY, BECAUSE OF PDA
RELYING SO MUCH ON
SUBCONTRACTORS AND I THINK ON
PAGE SIX, YOU REFERENCED 53
REACH EMPLOYEES AND 10 PDA
EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE THE RELYING
ON SUBCONTRACTORS IS SO MUCH,
KENNETH EXPECTED THAT THE PDA
ITSELF WILL BE LOOKING FOR THAT
KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY FROM ITS
SUBCONTRACTORS. REMEMBER, THIS
IS AN ISSUE FOR ME BECAUSE I PU
FORWARD THAT COUNCIL BUDGET
ACTION AND I THINK IT WAS HSD
603A THAT ASKED FOR REPORTING,
PRECISELY BECAUSE , YOU KNOW,
YOU'RE WORKING WITH SO MANY
DIFFERENT GROUPS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. A LOT OF OUR DAT
IS COMING FROM OUR SUB KROGERS
AND WE ARE AUDITING AND CHECKIN
AND ASKING WHY NUMBERS ARE
TRENDING UP OR DOWN AND SOME OF
THE STORIES BEHIND THE NUMBERS,
NOT JUST THE NUMBERS THAT ARE
OCCURRING. I WILL SAY THAT WE
ARE ALSO LOOKING TO DIVERSIFY
OUR CONTRACTORS. SOME OF THE
THINGS WE ARE FINDING -- YOU
HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. THERE
MIGHT BE MORE, AND ONE OF THE
THINGS WE ARE FINDING IS REACH
IS STRESSED PRETTY FAR BASED ON
THE DEMAND FOR LEAD. WE WANT TO
BE RESPONSIVE TO ALL COMMUNITIE
WITH DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDER
IN ANY WAY THAT THE COURT GROUP
WILL APPROVE OF. WE [ INAUDIBL
]. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS W
IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF WHAT IS
GOING ON WITH OUR CONTRACTORS ,
MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE'S
NEEDS ARE BEING MET, ESPECIALLY
OUR PARTICIPANTS.
>> WHAT DATA AND REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS EXIST FOR YOUR
SUBCONTRACTORS? WOULD IT BE
POSSIBLE TO SEE THOSE CONTRACTS
THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR SOBS?
>> MOST OF THE DATA -- WE ARE
HAPPY TO PROVIDE ALL THAT DATA
TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS
MORNING. I KNOW THAT WE WILL BE
HEARING FROM THIS TEAM A COUPLE
MORE TIMES, AS REPORTING IS
RECEIVED. WE ARE CURRENTLY
PLANNING ON AN AUGUST
PRESENTATION ON THE FIRST TWO
QUARTERS OF REPORTING AND THEN
QUARTER THREE REPORTING AFTER
THE COUNCIL'S BUDGET PROCESS. I
REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S
WORK ON THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING
THE FOLKS WHO ARE NOT AT THE
TABLE BUT ARE JOINING WITH US I
THE AUDIENCE AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO HEARING MORE LATER THIS YEAR
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS WORK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ A
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR?
>> DRAFT DEACTIVATION RIGHTS
ORDINANCE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE
PRESENTERS WITH US VIRTUALLY
FROM COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. AS
QUICK BACKGROUND, WE ARE
CONTINUING TO WORK ON DISCUSSIN
THE NEXT PIECE OF LEGISLATION I
THE PAYOUT EFFORT TO ADDRESS
THE WORKPLACE STANDARDS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING CONTRACT
WORK. THESE BILLS HAVE BEEN
SPONSORED -- THE PREVIOUS BILL
ARE SPONSORED BY MYSELF AND
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS FROM LAST
MAY. WE PASSED OUR FIRST BILL
THROUGH THE COUNCIL,
GUARANTEEING MINIMUM
COMPENSATION, INCREASING
TRANSPARENCY, ENDURING
FLEXIBILITY. THESE RIGHTS GO
INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY OF 2024.
WE KNOW THAT APP-BASED WORKER I
ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING
SECTORS. THAT MEANS THAT THE
NUMBER OF WORKERS WITHOUT THESE
BASIC RIGHTS CONTINUES TO GROW
LAST SEPTEMBER, THE COMMITTEE
HELD DISCUSSIONS WITH DRIVE FOR
AND WORKING WASHINGTON TO
DISCUSS THIS ISSUE OF APP-BASED
WORKERS DEACTIVATION RIGHTS AND
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING
TO COUNCIL AND PRESENTING ON
THE IMPACTS OF NOT HAVING THESE
RIGHTS. PLATFORMS RELY ON A LO
OF AUTOMATION AND ALGORITHMIC
SYSTEMS THAT, AS WE HAVE HEARD
SOMETIMES RESULT IN DEACTIVATIO
WITHOUT ANY HUMAN REVIEWER
INTERVENTION. WE HAVE HEARD IN
OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
SESSIONS FROM WORKERS WHO, FOR
INSTANCE, WERE DEACTIVATED
BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT GET
DOWNTOWN TO WEST SEATTLE IN 15
MINUTES WHILE THE BRIDGE WAS
CLOSED . MOST WORKERS DO NOT
EVEN RECEIVE NOTICE OF THE
ALLEGED VIOLATION LEADING UP TO
THEIR DEACTIVATION AND WHETHER
OR NOT THEY , THEY'RE UNABLE TO
CHALLENGE AND DISCUSS THESE
ALLEGATIONS WITH AN ACTUAL
PERSON. AN ALGORITHM MAY NOT
UNDERSTAND WHY DOWNTOWN TO
SEATTLE WAS A CHALLENGING TRIP
DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME WHERE
THE BRIDGE WAS CLOSED, BUT ANY
PERSON WOULD UNDERSTAND. SO,
WORKERS REALLY NEED THESE
PROTECTIONS TO DO THE WORK THAT
THE COMPANIES RELY ON AND THE
WORK THAT SEATTLE RESIDENTS REL
ON AS WELL. TODAY, WE HAVE
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF AND
KARINA BULL TO PRESENT TO THE
COMMITTEE A DRAFT OF THE APP
BASED DEACTIVATION RIGHTS
ORDINANCE. THIS IS A
PRE-INTRODUCTORY TRAFFIC IT IS
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO
UNDERSTAND AND DISCUSS THE
LEGISLATION BEFORE IT IS
INTRODUCED. THE DRAFT IS
INFORMED BY ALMOST A YEAR OF
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH
WORKERS AND THE PLATFORMS THAT
FACILITATE THIS WORK IN THAT
OUTREACH THAT IS CONTINUING. TH
DRAFT IS STILL EVOLVING AND I'M
REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE FEEDBAC
THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM
WORKERS AND THEIR ADVOCATES AND
AM GRATEFUL THAT MANY OF THE
PLATFORMS HAVE ENGAGED WITH US
IN MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS,
INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE CALLED
IN TODAY FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
WE HOPE TO FINALIZE A DRAFT FOR
INTRODUCTION SOON AND WITH THAT
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JASMINE
AND HER COPARTNER.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS
I THINK WHAT WE ARE WAITING FOR
THE PRESENTATION TO BE PUT ON
THE SCREEN, BUT WHILE WE ARE
DOING THAT, I WILL SAY MY NAME
IS JASMINE AND I AM THE COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF AND I WILL BE
PRESENTING A DRAFT COME AS
MENTIONED, OF THE DEACTIVATION
RIGHTS ORDINANCE. THAT WILL BE
UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN TH
NEXT FEW WEEKS THAT I REALLY
APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE AS
WELL. THEY WILL BE RUNNING THE
SLIDES FOR ME AND THEY HAVE BEE
A GREAT PARTNER IN THE WORK AND
IS HERE TO HELP ANSWER QUESTION
AS WELL. AND BEFORE WE BEGIN, I
WANT TO SAY THAT I DID MY BEST
TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN
SUMMARIZING THE INFORMATION AND
DIGESTIBLE BITES AND PROVIDING
THE LEVEL OF DETAIL NEEDED TO
UNDERSTAND THE WORK AND
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK YOU MIGHT
BE UNDERSTANDING, WHICH CAN BE
AT A VERY GRANULE LEVEL OF
DETAIL. I AIRED ON THE SIDE OF
INCLUDING MORE INFORMATION, SO
YOU CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION
FOR REFERENCE. I WILL DO MY
BEST TO SUMMARIZE THE POINTS AN
DISCUSSION WITHOUT READING THE
ENTIRE SLIDE.
>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET
STARTED ON LOOKS LIKE
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS A
QUESTION.
>> WOULD YOU PREFER THAT WE ASK
QUESTIONS AT EACH SLIDE?
>> IF YOU COULD HOLD THEM TO TH
END, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE?
>> HELLO, I AM A KARINA. I AM
JUST INSERTING MY VOICE BECAUSE
I AM HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY. I'M GOING
TO TRY TO GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE
ONE MOMENT PLEASE.
>> OKAY. I CAN ALSO JUST -- IT
WAS JUST GOING TO BE A
PRESENTATION OUTLINE. BASICALLY
I WILL BE GOING OVER THE
BACKGROUND TO THE PROPOSED
POLICY AND THE POLICY GOALS AND
THEN I WILL GO TO THE DRAFT
LEGISLATION ITSELF AND FINALLY
WE WILL HIGHLIGHT THE ONGOING
POLICY QUESTIONS AND TALK ABOUT
THE NEXT STEPS. THERE WE GO.
YOU GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, AND THEN
WE CAN GET INTO THE NEXT SLIDE.
PERFECT. SO, AS COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD MENTIONED, AND AS WE
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE
ONGOING OUTREACH WITH THE
WORKERS, YOU RECALL ABOUT A YEA
AGO THIS COMMUNITY CONSIDERED
AND THEY ULTIMATELY PASSED AN
ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDED MINIMUM
PAYMENT TRANSPARENCY AND
FLEXIBILITY PROTECTIONS FOR
APP-BASED WORKERS AND THIS IS
THE CONTINUATION OF THAT WORK,
LOOKING AT PROTECTING WORKERS
FROM UNWARRANTED DEACTIVATION.
HERE IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL
BACKGROUND AS TO WHAT THIS BILL
ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS. SO, AGAIN,
I MENTIONED APP-BASED WORKER
INVOLVES ALGORITHMS AND MANAGIN
WORKER AXES TO THE PLATFORM.
THERE HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE
DOCUMENTATION OF ACADEMIC
LITERATURE ABOUT THE IMPACT OF
ALGORITHMIC MANAGEMENT ON
APP-BASED WORKERS. THEY CALLED
AN INDIVIDUAL BOSS THAT DICTAT
CORE ASPECTS OF WORK. THE
REPORTS FROM LOCAL WORKERS YOU
HAVE ENGAGED IN CONVERSATIONS
WITH CONFIRMED WHAT HAS BEEN
REPORTED IN THIS LITERATURE.
WORKERS FACE DEACTIVATION'S FOR
REJECTING TOO MANY ORDERS OR
DELAYS OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL
OR CHANGING INTO COMFORTABLE
PERFORMANCE EXPECTATION AND MAN
TIMES, AS YOU HAVE HEARD IN
PUBLIC COMMENT, FOR UNKNOWN
REASONS, WORKERS HAVE REPORTED
TRYING TO LOG ONTO THE APP, ONL
TO FIND THEIR BLOCK FROM ACCESS
WITHOUT EXPLANATION. EVEN FOR
COMPANIES THAT DO NOT RELY ON
ALGORITHMS TO DICTATE THEIR
DEACTIVATION'S, WORKERS REPORT
SIMILAR DIFFICULTIES AND LACK O
SUBSTANCE AND RESPONSE FROM
COMPANIES WHEN THEY TRY TO
CHALLENGE DEACTIVATION'S WORKER
FURTHER REPORTED FEELING
HAMSTRUNG BECAUSE THE COMPANY
HAS CONTROL OVER THE RECORDS AN
INFORMATION RELATED TO THE
DEACTIVATION. THEY DO NOT HAVE
INFORMATION TO FULLY CHALLENGE
THE COMPANY. SO, THE GOAL OF
THIS POLICY WOULD BE TO CREATE
MORE STABILITY AND JOB SECURITY
FOR APP-BASED WORKERS AND CREAT
A BALANCE BETWEEN THE
EFFICIENCIES OF ALGORITHMIC
MANAGEMENT AND THE NEEDS OF
SEATTLE WORKERS. NEXT SLIDE. I
SUMMARY, THIS WOULD REQUIRE
NETWORK COMPANIES DO BASE
DEACTIVATION'S UNREASONABLE
POLICIES AND PROVIDE APP-BASED
WORKERS NOTICE AND HUMAN REVIEW
OF ALL DEACTIVATION AND WHEN WE
SAY NOTICE, WE MEAN NOTICE
RELATING TO THE POLICIES THAT
CAN GET THEM DEACTIVATED, AS
WELL AS THE NOTICE OF A SPECIFI
DEACTIVATION AND THE RECORDS
THAT SUBSTANTIATE DEACTIVATION
THAT SHOW THERE WAS AN
INVESTIGATION, AS WELL AS HUMAN
REVIEW OF THAT INVESTIGATION AN
CHALLENGE. SO, THIS PARTICULAR
ONE. THE CURRENT DRAFT PROPOSES
THAT ALL NETWORK COMPANIES WITH
250 OR MORE APP-BASED WORKERS B
COVERED. AND APP-BASED WORKER
COVERAGE, FOR THE MOST PART,
WOULD BE LIMITED TO WORKERS WHO
HAVE HAD AT LEAST 10% OF THEIR
OFFERS IN THE PAST 180 DAYS
INVOLVED PERFORMING SERVICES IN
SEATTLE. THIS THRESHOLD IS
MODELED AFTER THE ELIGIBILITY
REQUIREMENTS TO CHALLENGE
DEACTIVATION'S THAT WERE IN
PLACE FOR THE GMC ORDINANCE AN
IT IS INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THA
THERE IS AN ONGOING NEXUS TO
SEATTLE THAT WAS NOT OVERLY
BURDENSOME FOR WORKERS TO TRACK
AFTER A WORKER PERFORMS ONE
OFFER IN SEATTLE, THEY SHOULD
WAS A NOTICE OF RIGHTS FROM THE
COMPANY THAT INCLUDES A SYSTEM
FOR WORKERS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR
ELIGIBILITY, NAMELY WHEN THEY
NEED THAT 10% THRESHOLD IN THE
PREVIOUS 180 DAYS. THERE ARE NO
QUESTIONS. WE CAN GO TO THE NEX
SLIDE. SO, FOR DEACTIVATION
REQUIREMENTS, THE OBLIGATIONS
THEMSELVES COME UNDER THIS
PROPOSED ORDINANCE, COMPANIES
MUST GIVE FAIR NOTICE OF THE
REASONS THAT COULD GET A WORKER
DEACTIVATED. THOSE REASONS MUST
BE REASONABLY RELATED TO THE
NETWORK COMPANIES A SAFE AND
EFFICIENT OPERATIONS. THESE
ORDINANCES INCLUDE A LIST OF
UNREASONABLE REASONS TO
DEACTIVATE AN APP-BASED WORKER,
WHICH IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. IT
IS A LOT. UNREASONABLE REASONS
-- THE FIRST THREE ARE MEANT TO
BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
FLEXIBILITY PROVISIONS PROVIDED
IN THE MINIMUM PAYMENT
ORDINATES. IT WILL NOT GO INTO
DETAIL ON THE WHOLE LIST UNLESS
PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THA
PARTICULAR BULLET POINT, BUT I
WILL NOTE THAT TWO OF THE ONES
THAT HAVE GOTTEN THE MOST
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK ARE, ONE,
THE PROHIBITION ON DEACTIVATING
A WORKER BASED ON QUANTITATIVE
METRICS LIKE DRIVING -- AND THE
SECOND REASON THAT HAS BEEN THE
SUBJECT OF SOME BACK AND FORTH
IS THE PROHIBITION ON
DEACTIVATING A WORKER BASED ON
THE RESULTS OF A BACKGROUND
CHECK . FOR THAT ONE, WE WILL
TALK MORE ABOUT HOW THE
EXCEPTION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT SOFTENS THE
PROHIBITION AS WE DIVE INTO
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT LATER ON I
THE PRESENTATION AND HOW
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT IS
INTERPRETED MAY SHAPE ONE'S
THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR
PROHIBITION AND WE WILL COME
BACK TO IT DEFINITELY. OKAY,
FIRST, WE WILL DO A QUICK
RUNDOWN OF THE OTHER
REQUIREMENTS FOR DEACTIVATION
BEYOND THE REASONABLE POLICY
REQUIREMENT. IT MUST BE BASED O
AN INVESTIGATION THAT
DEMONSTRATES EVIDENCE THAT THE
APP-BASED WORKER VIOLATED THE
COMPANY'S POLICY. DEACTIVATION
MUST ALSO REPRESENT CONSISTENT
APPLICATION OF THE RULE OR
POLICY AND IT MUST BE
PROPORTIONATE TO THE OFFENSE AN
IT CANNOT INTEND TO RESULT IN
DISCRIMINATION. THOSE ARE THE
OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE
DEACTIVATION. NOW, WE CAN GO
AND WE CAN DIVE INTO EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT AND AS YOU HAVE S█EE
WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE IMPLICATIONS BEFORE WE GET
INTO THE ACTUAL DEFINITION.
FIRST, AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE
PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU DO NOT NEED
TO COMPLETE AN INVESTIGATION
BEFORE ACTIVATING A WORKER IN
THE CASE OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. YOU CAN DEACTIVATE
RIGHT AWAY IF THE COMPANY -- IF
THERE IS EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT.
THE INVESTIGATION MUST BE
COMPLETED WITHIN 10 DAYS UNLESS
THERE ARE EXTRAORDINARY
CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND THE
COMPANY'S CONTROL YOU -- AS
MENTIONED, YOU CAN DEACTIVATE
IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT NEEDING TO
PROVIDE THAT 14 DAYS NOTICE AS
WELL AND YOU CAN DEACTIVATE
BASED ON THE RESULTS OF A
BACKGROUND CHECK THAT REVEALS
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT IF THE
NETWORK COMPANY CAN PROVE BY
CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE
THAT THE CONDUCT DIRECTLY
RELATES TO THE APP-BASED WORKER
FITNESS TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
THAT IS WHAT EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT IS. WE CAN GO TO THE
NEXT SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE
DEFINITION. AND A BIT OF A
DELAY HERE. EGREGIOUS MISCONDUC
MEANS A RIGHT OR WRONG ACTION O
BEHAVIOR BY AN INDIVIDUAL
APP-BASED WORKER THAT ENDANGERS
THE PHYSICAL SAFETY OF THE
CUSTOMER OR A THIRD PERSON OR
INTENTIONALLY CAUSES ECONOMIC
HARM TO THE CUSTOMER, A THIRD
PERSON, OR THE NETWORK COMPANY.
AND EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
INCLUDES CONDUCT THAT OCCURS
OUTSIDE OF A WORKERS PROVISION
IF A NETWORK COMPANY CAN PROVE
BY CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENC
THAT THE CONDUCT RELATES TO THE
APP-BASED WORKER AND THERE ARE
RULES FOR THE FINDINGS. IT
LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT BE HAVING
SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON
THE PRESENTATION. OR IS IT ME?
THE SLIDE IS STILL ON THE
IMPLICATIONS FROM WHAT I AM
SEEING.
>> I DO NOT KNOW WHO IS
ADVANCING THE SLIDE.
>> I THINK THEY ARE HAVING SOME
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. YOU KNO
WHAT? I CAN JUST SHARE -- IT
MIGHT BE EASIER FOR ME TO SHARE
ON MY SCREEN. OKAY.
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT, EVERYONE.
>> THAT IS OKAY. NO PROBLEM.
>> EVERYTHING LOOKS OKAY ON MY
END, BUT IT IS NOT BROADCASTING
>> OKAY. CAN YOU FOLKS SEE ME
AND HEAR ME?
>> I CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> I CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION.
>> I HEAR YOU.
>> OKAY. AND CAN YOU SEE THE
PRESENTATION?
>> WE CAN.
>> YES. THE MISCONDUCT
DEFINITION.
>> OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT,
OKAY. SO, YES. AS I JUST READ,
AS -- I DID READ THE ENTIRE
SLIDE FOR YOU, BUT THAT WAS THE
DEFINITION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT AND WE JUST WENT OVE
THAT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE
DEFINITION, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES
EXAMPLES FROM EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. AND THEN -- YOU CA
SEE -- I WILL NOT READ THE
ENTIRE SET OF EXAMPLES, BUT THE
DO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE ASSAULT,
SEXUAL ASSAULT, THEFT, ROBBERY,
HARASSMENT, I MEAN -- THESE
DEFINITIONS -- THIS DEFINITION
FOR THE MOST PART, IS MODELED
AFTER THESE PARTICULAR
DEFINITIONS OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. CERTAINLY, THE
EXAMPLES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME,
BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF TWEAK
TO THE OVERARCHING DEFINITION.
FOR THE MOST PART, WHICH WE CAN
GET INTO IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS
ABOUT THAT, THERE HAS BEEN A LO
OF BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS
DEFINITION. I THINK WE HAVE
OTHER QUESTIONS AT THE END. IF
THERE ARE FURTHER QUESTIONS, I
CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE.
SO, NEXT, WE HAVE AN APP-BASED
WORKER AND THEIR NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION. THEY ARE ENTITLED
TO 14 DAYS NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION EXCEPT IN THE CASE
OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT AS WE
NOTED. EVEN WITH EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT, THE APPS WORKER IS
ENTITLED TO RECEIVE NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION ON THE DATE OF
DEACTIVATION AND THE NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION MUST INCLUDE ALL
THE ITEMS LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.
INEVITABLY, THOSE ITEMS, WE HAV
THE RECORDS TO SUBSTANTIATE
DEACTIVATION AND THE NETWORK
COMPANIES PROCESS FOR
CHALLENGING DEACTIVATION.
GETTING TO THE PROCESS FOR
CHALLENGING DEACTIVATION. AN
APP-BASED WORKER SHALL HAVE THE
RIGHT TO CHALLENGE DEACTIVATION
THROUGH AN INTERNAL
DEACTIVATION CHALLENGE PROCEDUR
AND THERE MUST BE A RESPONSE
PROVIDED WITHIN 14 DAYS,
CERTIFIED BY AN INDIVIDUAL WHO
HAS AUTHORITY TO REINSTATE THE
WORKER. AFTER THEY RECEIVED A
RESPONSE OR 14 DAYS, WHICHEVER
IS EARLIER, THEY WILL HAVE THE
RIGHT TO FILE A COMPLAINT OR
PURSUE THEIR PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION OR CHALLENGING AN
UNWANTED DEACTIVATION. AND AS
WE HAVE NOTED EARLIER, THE
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION MUST
INCLUDE THE RECORDS RELIED UPON
BY THE NETWORK COMPANY TO
SUBSTANTIATE A DEACTIVATION.
THESE RECORDS MUST ALSO BE
CERTIFIED BY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
THEY ARE TRUE AND ACCURATE AND
IF NEW EVIDENCE COMES TO THE
NETWORK COMPANIES POSITION AFTE
THE NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION, THE
MUST PROVIDE THOSE RECORDS TO
THE WORKER. THIS MAY BE, FOR
EXAMPLE, TO OCCUR WHEN THERE IS
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT ALLEGED,
WHICH MAY HAVE RECORDS AT THE
TIME OF THE NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION BECAUSE AN
INVESTIGATION CAN TAKE UP TO 10
DAYS AFTER THE NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION. IF THERE IS
INITIAL RECORDS, YOU KNOW, THAT
ARE NOT COVERED, THAT WORKER
WOULD BE ENTITLED TO RECEIVE
RECORDS AT THAT TIME AT THE
CONCLUSION OF THE INVESTIGATION
THE DRAFT ORDINANCE ALSO
REQUIRES NETWORK COMPANIES TO
PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR WORKERS
TO ACCESS RECORDS. THE INTENTIO
HERE IS THAT , YOU KNOW, FOR
NETWORK COMPANIES, THEY ARE
REQUIRED TO TRANSMIT RECEIPT OR
PAYMENT DISCLOSURES UNDER THE
APPS BASED MINIMUM PAYMENT
ORDINANCE OR THE INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR PROTECTIONS. THOSE
WORKERS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO
THEIR WORK RECORDS. THEY WOULD
ALREADY HAVE BEEN TRANSMITTED
THE OTHER DEACTIVATION IF THOSE
RECORDS ARE ONLY AVAILABLE,
PARTICULARLY IF THEY ARE
AVAILABLE ON THE APP. AND WE
KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN THE
SUBJECT OF MUCH BACK AND FORTH.
IT WAS MENTIONED TODAY. SO, THI
ORDINANCE DRAFT DOES ALLOW FOR
COMPANIES TO LOOK AT INFORMATIO
THEY THINK COULD COMPROMISE
THIRD-PARTY SAFETY AND ALLOWS
FOR THEM TO ISSUE RULES IF THE
NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT MEASURES
HAVE BEEN TAKEN. MY
INTERPRETATION OF THIS LANGUAGE
IS THAT COMPANIES CAN PROTECT
THE PRIVACY OF CUSTOMERS -- I
WELCOME ANY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK
ABOUT HOW COMPANIES DO NOT FEE
LIKE THIS DOES PROTECT THEM. AN
WE CAN GO ON TO THIS PARTICULAR
ONE. THIS DRAFT IS GOING TO BE
UP JUNE 1st 2024, A FEW MONTHS
AFTER APP-BASED WORKER MINIMUM
PAYMENT AND THE EXPANSION OF AP
BASED WORKER GOES INTO EFFECT.
THEY WOULD LIKELY WANT THIS DAY
TO BE EXTENDED TO ALLOW MORE
TIME FOR RULEMAKING. THIS IS TH
DATE THAT IS IN THE DRAFT.
WHEREVER THE STATE LANDS, THE
DRAFT CONTEMPLATES A DATE
SOMEWHAT FURTHER OUT AND THEY
WOULD ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE. I
THIS GAP BETWEEN THE EFFECTIVE
DATE AND THE ENFORCEMENT DATE,
WORKERS CAN PURSUE THEIR PRIVAT
RIGHT OF ACTION AND THEY WOULD
HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO STAN
UP AND ENFORCE PRACTICES AND
PROCEDURES AFTER THE RULEMAKING
IS DONE. THE DRAFT ALSO
RESTRICTS THE ENFORCEMENT ROLE
TO ENFORCE THE PROCEDURAL
REQUIREMENTS AND POLICIES AND
DOES NOT REQUIRE THEM TO REVIEW
INDIVIDUAL DEACTIVATIONS TO
DETERMINE WHETHER THE INDIVIDUA
DEACTIVATIONS WERE
SUBSTANTIATED. SO, GETTING MORE
DETAIL. THEY -- THEY WOULD
ENFORCE FACIAL POLICY
REQUIREMENTS. THAT WOULD BE
WHETHER THERE WAS A FAIR NOTICE
OF A DEACTIVATION POLICY OR IF
THERE WERE THE POLICIES
REASONABLE. THEY WOULD ALSO
ENFORCE THE PROCEDURAL
REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER THERE WAS
A NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION THAT
WAS ISSUED IN A TIMELY MANNER O
WHETHER THERE WAS A RIGHT TO
CHALLENGE THE DEACTIVATION AND
THOSE REQUIREMENTS WERE MET AND
WHETHER THEY HAD ACCESS TO THEI
RECORDS. THESE PROVISIONS ARE
KIND OF MEANT TO ADDRESS THE
INFORMATION ASYMMETRY AND THE
POWER AND BALLAST THAT WOULD
OTHERWISE EXIST IF A WORKER WER
TO CHALLENGE DEACTIVATION WITH
ARBITRATION PROCEEDINGS.
ADDITIONALLY, A VIOLATION OF AN
OF THESE PROVISIONS WOULD INCUR
A FINE PAYABLE TO THE AGGRIEVED
PARTY, THE WORKER. SO, IF THE
WORKER DID NOT RECEIVE THEIR
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION AND DID
NOT RECEIVE ANY RECORDS
DEACTIVATING, THEY COULD ASSESS
A PENALTY FOR THOSE TWO
VIOLATIONS THAT WOULD ADD UP TO
ABOUT $1250. THAT SUMMARY
ADDRESS FOR THE WORKER, EVEN IF
IT IS TOO BURDENSOME FOR THEM T
PREFER THE CLAIM. THIS
ENFORCEMENT PROPOSAL IS
ADMITTEDLY UNUSUAL AND IT IS IN
RESPONSE TO THE CONCERNS ABOUT
THE BURDEN ON ENFORCING THE
ENTIRE ORDINANCE AND BASED ON
THE VOLUME OF INTAKE EXPERIENCE
AND THE DEACTIVATION ORDINANCE.
JUST HANDLING THAT LEVEL OF
INTAKES, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE
OVER 3000 THAT WERE EXPERIENCIN
THAT, THEY WOULD REPRESENT A
SIGNIFICANT BURDEN ON OS AND IT
WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THE
AGENCY TO ABSORB EVEN WITH
ENFORCEMENT FOCUS ON JUST
PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS AND
FACIAL POLICIES, THEY ESTIMATE
THEY WILL NEED ABOUT $1 MILLION
A YEAR TO IMPLEMENT THE
ORDINANCE IN ADDITION TO STARTU
COSTS. WHETHER THAT LEVEL OF
RESOURCING IS NEEDED OR NOT, AN
WHETHER IT IS REASONABLE TO
EXPECT THE VOLUME OF INTAKES TO
BE COMPARABLE AS IT WAS FOR THE
OTHERS, THE ISSUE OF RESOURCING
AT ANY LEVEL IS STILL ONE FOR
THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. AND
THEN TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE IT, I
TRIED TO DO A VISUAL
PRESENTATION. HOPEFULLY THIS IS
HELPFUL. ESSENTIALLY, THE DRAFT
ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE ALL
WORKERS TO HAVE FAIR NOTICE OF
POLICY AND THOSE POLICIES TO BE
REASONABLY RELATED TO THE
OPERATIONS OF THE COMPANY. AND
THEN, IF A WORKER IS HIT WITH A
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION, ON THE
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION, THERE
ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS,
INCLUDING RECORDS. AND
DEACTIVATION HAS TO LOOK AT ALL
THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN TH
GREEN BOX AS WELL. FOR 14 DAYS,
THE WORKER CAN BE DEACTIVATED
AFTER RECEIVING THE NOTICE. AN
ANY TIME AFTER RECEIVING THE
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION, UP TO 9
DAYS, THEY CAN FILE FOR AN
INTERNAL DEACTIVATION CHALLENGE
AND AFTER 14 DAYS, THEY CAN GET
A RESPONSE THAT THEY ARE
ENTITLED TO. AT THAT POINT, THE
CAN FILE A COMPLAINT WITH US O
FILE A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION.
THERE IS EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT.
THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT 14 DAY
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION PERIODS.
YOU GET THE FAIR NOTICE OF
POLICY NEW GET THE REGIONAL
POLICY AND IT GETS DEACTIVATED
AND YOU STILL HAVE THE NOTICE O
DEACTIVATION IN TERMS OF THE
RECORDS AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS
THAT ARE RELATED TO THE
DEACTIVATION AND THERE IS 10
DAYS TO COMPLETE THE
INVESTIGATION, EXCEPT FOR
EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. YO
CAN STILL FILE FOR A CHALLENGE
IN THE INTERNAL PROCEDUE AND
ARE ENTITLED TO RESPONSE WITHIN
14 DAYS. AFTER THAT POINT, THEY
ANY PROCEDURAL OR POLICY
VIOLATIONS OR THEY CAN PURSUE
THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION.
HOPEFULLY, [ INAUDIBLE ]. THER
STILL ARE A NUMBER OF POLICY
QUESTIONS THAT WE ALSO MAY GET,
THAT WE WILL GET INTO THAT WE'R
ALSO RECEIVING WITH STAKEHOLDER
FEEDBACK . ONE IS THE ISSUE OF
COVERAGE. NETWORK COMPANY
COVERAGE AND WORKER COVERAGE.
YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A
QUESTION, QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT
OR FOR THE FEEDBACK ON THAT. ON
IS THE REASONABLE POLICIES,
WHETHER THE LIST OF REASONABLE,
UNREASONABLE POLICIES, YOU KNOW
MEETS THE NEEDS OF WORKERS AND
STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE FOR
COUNCILMEMBERS. THE DEFINITION
OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT, WHICH
WE WENT INTO IN GREAT DETAIL.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FEEDBACK ABOU
THAT AND IT IS UP FOR
CONSIDERATION. THIS QUESTION
ABOUT PRIVACY , BALANCING THE
NEEDS OF WORKERS, TO HAVE
RECORDS, YOU KNOW, TO UNDERSTAN
WHY THEY WERE DEACTIVATED AND T
BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE REASONS
FOR DEACTIVATION WITH THE
COMPANY, WHILE ALSO BALANCING
THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT
COMPANIES HAVE MENTIONED. AND
THEN THERE IS THE ISSUE OF
ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS RELATED T
THE RESOURCING ELEMENT AND THIS
IDEA OF THE PROCEDURAL AND
FACIAL POLICY ENFORCEMENT VERSU
THE REVIEW, THE SUBSTANTIVE
REVIEW OF DEACTIVATIONS. THERE
ARE PROBABLY OTHER THINGS THAT
WILL DISCUSS BUT THOSE ARE SORT
OF THE BIG QUESTIONS AND ISSUES
THAT HAVE COME UP SO FAR. THE
NEXT STEPS WILL BE THE
INTRODUCTION OF THE LEGISLATION
AND THE COMMITTEE MEETING WITH
FORMER ISSUE ID. SO, YEAH. ANY
QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU, JASMINE. THANK
YOU, KARINA. TO MY COLLEAGUES
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR HERBOLD.
THANK YOU JASMINE AND KARINA FO
THAT PRESENTATION. [ INAUDIBLE
--
>> YOU ARE CUTTING OUT.
>> THE IMPACT OF THIS
LEGISLATION. HAVE THEY BEEN
ANTICIPATING THE STAKEHOLDER
DISCUSSIONS?
>> I AM SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDEREN. I BELIEVE YOU ARE
ASKING ABOUT WHICH COMPANIES
HAVE BEEN APPROACHED IN THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS?
>> YEAH. I'M INTERESTED IN
KNOWING WHICH COMPANIES, WHICH
COMPANIES [ INAUDIBLE ] THAT
ARE HEADQUARTERED IN SEATTLE. I
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LIST OF
THOSE COMPANIES, AND ALSO
WHETHER THEY HAVE BEEN
CONSULTED. THAT IS MY FIRST
THING. YOU CAN GET BACK TO US O
THAT OR --
>> WE HAVE A LIST OF THE
INVITEES COMING TO OUR STEAK
HOLDING PROCESS. IS THAT RIGHT?
YOU'RE CUTTING OUT A LOT.
>> IT IS ON MY END. OKAY.
>> I KNOW THAT WE ARE HAVING
SOME ISSUES AT THE CITY WITH TH
NETWORK.
>> OKAY. SO, YES, IT WOULD BE
GREAT TO GET A LIST OF THE
COMPANIES [ INAUDIBLE ] I
NOTICE IN THE DEFINITION SECTIO
OF THE DRAFT ON PAGE 11 , IT
SAYS THE NETWORK COMPANY WILL
INCLUDE [ INAUDIBLE ]. I'M
WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE -- [
INAUDIBLE ] THEY DO PET SITTIN
THROUGHOUT SEATTLE WAR TASK
RABBIT.
>> I THINK YOU ARE GETTING TO
THE QUESTION OF WHAT TYPE OF
WORKERS ARE COVERED BY THE
LEGISLATION, SPECIFICALLY I
THINK YOUR QUESTION RELATES TO
THE INCLUSION OF THE MARKETPLAC
APPS. YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE
THAT THE STRUCTURE OF DIFFERENT
APPS BASE CUSTOMER NEEDS ARE
DIFFERENT BUT ONE THING THAT IS
THE SAME IS THAT DEACTIVATION I
A WIDESPREAD ISSUES ACROSS THE
INDUSTRY, WHETHER OR NOT YOU AR
TALKING ABOUT ON DEMAND OR
MARKETPLACE APPS. IT IS ONE OF
THE MOST POTENT WAYS THAT APPS
EXERT CONTROL OVER WORKERS,
WHETHER OR NOT, AGAIN, IT IS AN
ON DEMAND APP-BASED WORKER OR A
MARKETPLACE WORKER BY
ELIMINATING THEIR ACCESS TO
THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME . WE HAV
HEARD FROM WORKERS ACROSS APPS,
INCLUDING THE MARKETPLACE
COMPANIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING
WITH THE SAME THINGS, NO MATTER
WHICH APP THAT THEY USE. AGAIN
THE CORE ISSUE IS IMMEDIATE LOS
OF INCOME WITH NO EXPLANATION,
NO WAY TO GET MEANINGFUL -- NO
WAY TO RELY ON [ INAUDIBLE ] FO
DISCRIMINATION AND BIAS TO BE
AN ISSUE., TO ENSURE THEIR --
THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME BASIC
PROTECTIONS ACROSS THE INDUSTRY
AND DUE PROCESS, NO MATTER WHAT
APP THEY ARE ON. SO, THAT IS TH
THINKING HERE FOR WHY THE SCOPE
OF THE LEGISLATION IS AS IT IS
BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE PROBLEMS
THAT THEY ARE FACING ARE ACROSS
THE APPS, REGARDLESS OF THE
MODEL. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, I WILL
SAY, YES, IT IS TRUE -- LET ME
START AGAIN. I DO THINK THAT WE
HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THERE IS NO
ONE SIZE THAT FITS ALL. ONE THA
IS IMPOSED ON THE COMPANIES AND
THE FOOD DELIVERY, ET CETERA,
THAT IS IGNORING THE VERY UNIQU
WAYS THAT WORKERS ARE PERHAPS
IMPACTED BY DEACTIVATION IN
DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT I
NOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I
HAVE CONCERN THAT WORKER
PROTECTIONS AND NETWORK
COMPANIES ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW
ENFORCED TOOLS, WE ARE NOT
TALKING ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. I A
CONCERNED THAT A LOT OF -- THAT
THE END USER, THEIR SAFETY COUL
BE AT RISK. SO, MISCONDUCT IS
DEFINED, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK T
THE DEFINITION, IT IS DEFINED B
ENDANGERING THE PHYSICAL SAFET
OF A CUSTOMER OR A THIRD PERSON
OR INTENTIONALLY CAUSING HARM T
THE CUSTOMER. THAT FEELS A LOT
LIKE THREATS AND REPEATED FRAUD
OR, FOR EXAMPLE, USING THE
PERSONAL INFORMATION OF THE
CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE ALSO HEARD
THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE ABOUT IN
OTHER CASES, THE SAFETY OF
PERHAPS PETS AND THE INABILITY
TO USE BACKGROUND CHECKS TO
CHECK ON SOME OF THE OTHER
THINGS THAT ARE NOT CAUGHT WITH
THE DEFINITION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. IT DOES RAISE
CONCERNS. I WILL BE LOOKING AT,
GOING FORWARD, HOW WE WILL
ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
I WANTED TO TALK ALSO ABOUT THE
COVERAGE, WHICH IS DESCRIBED ON
PAGE 5. DOESN'T THIS PERHAPS
HAVE AN EXTRATERRITORIAL IMPACT
WE ARE SAYING IF SOMEONE SPENDS
10%, THEN OUR PROTECTIONS APPL
ACROSS THE BOARD, NO MATTER
WHERE AROSE THAT PERSON MIGHT
WORK. IF THEY COME TO SEATTLE
AND DO A FEW RIDES AND SPEND
MOST OF THEIR TIME IN OTHER
JURISDICTIONS, ARE WE NOT
DEFINING THE LAWS UNDER WHICH
PERSON CAN BE DEACTIVATED IF
THEY SPEND THE MOST TIME IN
ANOTHER PLACE? WHY NOT JUST USE
THE SUBSTANTIAL TEST FROM OTHE
SEATTLE LAWS, WHICH TYPICALLY
REQUIRES A WORKER TO PERFORM AT
LEAST 50% OF THEIR SERVICES IN
SEATTLE? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BE
ADDRESSED GOING FORWARD. AND
THEN, FINALLY, ANOTHER THING I
WILL MENTION NOW, ALTHOUGH I
MIGHT -- WE ARE GETTING SHORT O
TIME HERE. THIS SEEMS TO CREATE
TWO SETS OF STANDARDS FOR A
COMPANY LIKE UBER, THAT
CONTRACTS WITH APP-BASED WORKER
TO PERFORM KSHAWMA SAWANT --
WELL CARRYING OTHER THINGS AND
WHY ARE WE ADOPTING SEPARATE
SCHEMES HERE?
>> THANK YOU. I THINK THESE AR
ALL GOOD ISSUES TO RAISE. I
APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT AT
THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. THERE IS
ADOPTION AND I WOULD APPRECIATE
YOUR FOLLOWING UP WITH THE
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF ON SOME O
THOSE ITEMS. I THINK THERE ARE
SOME GOOD ANSWERS FOR SOME OF
THEM AND THERE ALSO MIGHT BE
ALTERNATIVES THAT WE WANT TO
PURSUE, EITHER --
>> GREAT. I KNOW THAT I HAVE
BEEN GETTING THESE FROM MEETING
WITH ACTUAL COMPANIES. I'M
REALLY HOPING THAT YOU ARE
HEARING THEIR CONCERNS.
>> WE ARE ALSO MEETING WITH THE
ACTUAL COMPANIES.
>> OKAY.
>> THEY INCORPORATE THOSE
CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY AROUND
PRIVACY. WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN
ABOUT THE FACT THAT EVEN IF IT
IS -- IT IS PRETTY EASY TO TELL
WHICH CUSTOMER LODGED WHICH
COMPLAINT AND THOSE PUT THE
PERSON THAT LODGED THE COMPLAIN
AT RISK AS WELL.
>> YEAH, JASMINE FLAGGED THAT.
SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME MORE
ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. I
APPRECIATE HER DOING SO.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DID WAN
TO PUT OUT THERE TOO THAT THE
WORKING DEFINITION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT IN PARTICULAR HAS
BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY SHAPED BY
CONSULTATION WITH A BROAD GROUP
OF STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THE
COMPANIES THAT ARE INVOLVED.
THEY HAVE RAISED A LOT OF THE
SALIENT POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED IN COMMITTEE SESSIONS
TODAY FROM COUNCILMEMBER NELSON
AND COUNCILMEMBER PEDEREN THAT
TO TO THE HEART OF WANTING TO
MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE
SERVICES THAT THESE PLATFORMS
PROVIDE, BUT BALANCE THE NEED
FOR DUE PROCESS AND TRANS PARIT
FOR THE WORKER. I DO WANT -- I
AM SURE A LOT OF THOSE APPS BAS
COMPANIES ARE WATCHING TODAY. I
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE
FEEDBACK WE ARE GETTING FROM
THOSE COMPANIES , WE ARE
DIRECTLY WORKING WITH THEM IN
WASHINGTON ABOUT THE DEFINITION
OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. IT HAS
BEEN A VERY FRUITFUL PROCESS OF
FINDING SOME SHARED INTEREST AN
COMMON GROUND AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO DO THAT, GIVEN THAT
WE ARE STILL FAIRLY EARLY ON IN
THE PROCESS AND IT HAS BEEN
BROUGHT FOR ATTENTION. IT HAS
NOT YET BEEN FORMALLY
INTRODUCED. I DO APPRECIATE THE
ACCESS EVERYONE HAS BEEN GIVEN
AND THE ENGAGEMENT THAT PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN GIVING TO MY OFFICE
AND COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION.
>> IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THAT
THE MUNICIPALITY HAS TRIED TO
INSTITUTE THESE TERMS FOR
DEACTIVATION? I ASK BECAUSE ANY
EMPLOYER WILL TELL YOU THAT
KEEPING SOMEONE ON WHO HAS
COMMITTED, WHO HAS DONE SOME
THINGS THAT WERE NOT -- KEEPING
THEM ON FOR A COUPLE WEEKS IS
POTENTIALLY, AGAIN, POTENTIALLY
HARMFUL TO CUSTOMERS IF THE
EMPLOYEE MIGHT LOWER THE MORAL
OF THE WORKPLACE AND ALSO
PROVIDES TWO WEEKS TO CONTINUE
THAT BEHAVIOR. SO, I THINK THAT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE THAT
WAS RAISED IN STAKEHOLDER RING,
BUT I AM WONDERING IF THAT HAS
BEEN BROUGHT UP IN OTHER
JURISDICTIONS.
>> THAT IS WHY WE HAVE AN
EGREGIOUS CONDUCT DEFINITION.
PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING THERE DO
NOT GET IT. THEY CAN BE
IMMEDIATELY DEACTIVATED. AS I
SAID, THE DEFINITION FOR
EGREGIOUS CONDUCT IS VERY NARRO
AND THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS.
>> I WOULD URGE YOU TO BACK.
>> IN THE PRESENTATION, MANY OF
THE THINGS YOU NAMED THAT --
THEY ARE COVERED. FRAUD IS
COVERED. THERE IS A LONG LIST
THAT IS IN THE PRESENTATION.
THAT WOULD BE DEFINED AS AN
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. BUT WE CA
CERTAINLY REVISIT THAT AS WELL.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE
NOTION OF -- WE HEARD SOME
TESTIMONY AGAINST INCLUDING
ECONOMIC HARM AGAINST --
>> WHAT ABOUT HARASSMENT?
>> IT IS IN THERE.
>> I WOULD ADD, SORRY, I DO NOT
WANT TO JUMP THE GUN, BUT THERE
WERE EARLIER DELIBERATIVE
DEFINITIONS OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT THAT MIGHT BE LEADIN
TO SOME OF THE CONFUSION. THERE
WERE VERY, VERY EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT DEFINITIONS THAT HAV
BEEN PRO OFFERED, THAT CANDIDLY
WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN VERY POO
DEACTIVATION POLICY. I DO -- AM
LOOKING AT WHAT I THINK IS THE
CURRENT DEFINITION, THAT WOULD
INCLUDE CAUSES, ECONOMIC HARM,
WHICH IS A PRETTY BROAD CATEGOR
THAT WOULD INCLUDE FRAUD, AND
ENDANGERS THE PHYSICAL SAFETY O
A CUSTOMER OR A THIRD PERSON,
WHICH WOULD INCLUDE AN ADDITION
OF ASSAULT AND OTHER THREATS OF
VIOLENCE AND ANYTHING THAT WOUL
PUT A PERSON IN A POSITION OF
FEELING LIKE THEY CANNOT RELY O
THE PLATFORM BECAUSE THEY DO NO
THINK THAT PLATFORM WILL BE ABL
TO KEEP THEM SAFE BY EFFECTIVEL
SELF POLICING THROUGH
DEACTIVATION. HOWEVER, THERE
WERE DELIBERATIVE DRAFTS THAT
WERE MUCH MORE HIGH LEVEL, VERY
PRESCRIPT OF, AND VERY NARROW
AND WOULD HAVE EXCLUDED A
CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF SCENARIO
THAT ARE SERIOUS AND WOULD
WARRANT DEACTIVATION.
>> THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP ON
THE SCREEN THE LIST OF ASSAULT,
SEXUAL ASSAULTS, SEXUAL
HARASSMENT, COMMUNICATING WITH
THE MINOR FOR -- SEXUAL CONDUCT
, UNLAWFUL HARASSMENT AS
DESIGNED IN STATE LAW.
SOLICITATION OF ANY SEXUAL ACT,
SERVED -- DRIVING UNDER THE
INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL OR DRUGS,
FAILING TO MAINTAIN A VALID
STATE DRIVERS LICENSE. THAT IS
THE LIST WE ARE WORKING WITH
CURRENTLY. I AM NOT SAYING THAT
THERE ARE NOT IMPROVEMENTS , BU
THAT IS LIST WE ARE WORKING
WITH.
>> ABOUT VIOLATIONS OF SCHOOL
ZONES?
>> I'M REFERRING TO REPEATED
VIOLATIONS OF SCHOOL ZONES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT IS NOT
COVERED UNDER RECKLESS DRIVING.
>> AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING
THIS IS AN ALL-ENCOMPASSING
LIST, BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS -
SPEED ZONES AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
>> MOVING ON, AS MENTIONED, I
REALLY ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS -- I ENCOURAGE THEM TO
GET IN TOUCH WITH MY OFFICE OR
CANCEL LEWISES OFFICE FOR YOUR
INTEREST IN EXPLORING ISSUES
FURTHER AND DEVELOPING
ALTERNATIVES. WE ARE CONTINUING
THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS, GETTIN
THE LEGISLATION READY, AND WE
WILL HAVE MORE ABOUT THE
TIMELINE FOR THE NEXT STEPS.
HOPEFULLY, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK
OR SO. AND WITH THAT, IT IS
11:43 A.M.. IF THERE ARE NO
FURTHER COMMENTS, I JUST WANT
TO LET THE VIEWING PUBLIC KNOW
THAT THE NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY AND
HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE IS
SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, MAY 23rd
2023. IF COMMITTEE MEMBERS
ANTICIPATING ABSENT FROM THAT
MEETING, YOU CAN LET US KNOW NO
OR SOMETIME BEFORE THAT MEETING
AND, AGAIN, IF THERE ARE NO
FURTHER COMMENTS, IT IS 11:44
A.M. AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THAN
YOU.