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Good afternoon, everybody.

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All right.

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All right.

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My name is Nate Moxley.

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I'll be your moderator today.

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I work for the Department of Neighborhoods
P-Patch program.

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Shout out to everybody
that's within the patch community.

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It's 50 years
strong are the Patch community program.

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So I have the distinct pleasure
of introducing our panelists today.

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I'm going to read, quickly
read their bios.

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Have them introduce a bit about their work

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and then we'll jump into the questions.

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We will have.

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We will have an opportunity for folks
to ask questions as well, at the end.

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Is that a hot mic? Okay.

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All right.

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Is this one on?  Testing.

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Okay.

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So we're going to jump into this.

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So starting with Demarus Tevuk.

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She is an environmental educator
focusing on traditional

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ecological knowledge,
native plants and native pollinators.

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She's an Inupiaq woman from Nome, Alaska,
and she enjoys sharing her research

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on the definition of sustainability
from an indigenous perspective.

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Demarus is a program manager
for the Seattle Indian Services

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Commission, a member of the Rising Tides
Indigenous Planning Group

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and a board member of Common Acre.

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Anthony
Johnson is an Anishinaabe and citizen

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of the Red Lake Nation
in northern Minnesota.

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Anthony was born
and raised in south Minneapolis.

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He studied at the University
of Minneapolis, Minnesota, Twin

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Cities, where he graduated
with a degree in finance.

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He moved to Seattle in May of 2021.

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Shortly thereafter,
he started as a started

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at the ʔálʔal Café
as a manager at the Chief Seattle Club.

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He cares deeply about hunting, fishing

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and foraging for traditional foods
and decolonizing his diet.

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Is the environmental justice programs manager
at Young Women in Power, Y-WE

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Particularly focused on youth
farming and food justice programing

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at Marra Farm in South Park.

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They first connected with Y-WE as a mentor
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and fell in love with the powerful
intergenerational community of diverse

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women and gender expansive folks
supporting each other in the outdoors.

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During this time,
she served as an AmeriCorps term,

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or she served in AmeriCorps
term with Solid Ground

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teaching, nutrition, cooking and gardening
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students experiencing food insecurity.

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Neli also organizes with Got Green,

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Climate Justice for Black Lives,

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and with fellow South
Asian community around BIPOC solidarity.

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She is passionate about working
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of environmental, racial
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Healing with the land and growing food
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while disrupting racism and injustice
within the food system.

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And lastly, we have Jaydalen Blossom, she/her.

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Jaydalen began her journey
in Y-WE as a youth participant in 2018

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with the Nature Connections program.

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Since then, she's been involved
in Y-WE, Create and Write.

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 Lead Youth Leadership Council.

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And in recent times,
she has been involved in Y-WE Grow.

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While participating in Grow
Jaydalen found her calling

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and now she wants to help others
find a sense of deep connection

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with themselves and with community
by connecting with nature.

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She recently joined the Y-WE
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for the Grow Spring Program.

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Besides her immense love
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Jaydalen loves spending quality
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being in nature, facilitating yoga.

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She recently graduated
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and connecting with people
from all walks of life.

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Join me in welcoming today's panelists.

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All right.

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So we're going to jump into this
by having folks

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just kind of introduce
their work, tell you a little bit

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a bit about their work
and how it connects with today's topic.

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So we're going to start with with Demarus.

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Hi, Can you hear me? All right.

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 I brought a presentation,
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if we're able to bring it up

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for my work with the Rising Tides Group.

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from December of 2021
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we had a native neighborhood
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we were looking for
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who are native and indigenous,
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We got an amazing 768 responses,

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and what I wanted to share
today was a map that shows the diversity

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of our urban native community
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The other thing
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was a map of where people live in Seattle.

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And so for this study we also did

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food talking circle
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What Office?

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Office of Sustainability Environment
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So we had a talking circle
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and we actually had the meeting

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at Marra Farms outdoors,

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we we didn't mean to do it this way,
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had it at the same time as the,
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a really great group of people come out
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food security, food access and building

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a neighborhood
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And then as a board member
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we are planting
camas at a site in South Seattle.

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It's called The Green Line.

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We planted the camas.

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We planted the camas last

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October,

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and the place that we harvested
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I'm pretty sure that it is an intact pre
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camas site,
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camas prairies were lost

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during colonization
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first,
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The settlers would put up fences,
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would also let their their cows
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And they destroyed the camas prairies.

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we checked on the camas,
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They're sprouting.

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And I'm so happy that they they made it.

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We weren't
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I wanted to
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privileged to know my traditional food
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I grew up eating whale, seal, caribou.

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My older brother is a hunter
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during the time when they were seeking to,

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to get their treaty rights
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opposition to their right to whale and

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food is so central to culture

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and all of the work that I do,
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on a group of values
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while I was getting my degree
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of values
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and I was just thinking today
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It's all about how you gather food
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how you take care of the land
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that you need to share with each other
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Like every value has some connection
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 yeah, and that's about how to live.

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So, yeah, I don't know.

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I was hoping that I could share
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The,

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the report will hopefully be shared
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through the Na’ah Illahee Fund website.

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That's the nonprofit
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Rising Tides has, 

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we have the goal of, of building community
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and one of the other big themes

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from our survey responses
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and they want, they want access to the land
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as part of cultural
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So being able to have gardens

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and any way rooftops, balconies

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and then open space, it's
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So I think that's it.

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(greeting in his native language)

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Hey everyone.

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Greetings.

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My name is Anthony.

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As Nate said, I'm a Anishinaabe,
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in northern Minnesota and I am the cafe
manager at Chief Seattle Club.

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The ʔálʔal Café Manager.

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 ʔálʔal Café opened on Giving Tuesday,

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November 29th of Native American Heritage
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and the café is on

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the ground floor
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which is Chief Seattle
Club's first permanent housing complex.

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You know,
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Chief Seattle Club right down in Pioneer Square.

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So the club has been around for, you know,

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50 some odd years in Seattle,
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you know, really exponentially growing
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to the point
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really build this

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massive capital campaign
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housing for our homeless native relatives
out there on the streets.

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You know, there's a pretty big disparity
in the homeless population within Seattle.

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Native people make up around
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But, you know,
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to 15% of the homeless population.

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So there's clearly a disparity there.

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And, you know,
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that disparity exists that could take,

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you know, possibly the entire time
to go into each one of those facets.

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But suffice to say that, you know,
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there that Chief Seattle wants to step in
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So the cafe is

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the cafe is, like I said, you know,
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And my mission
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you know, might seem a little bit distant
between nonprofit providing permanent

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supportive housing and, you know,
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But I see like a pretty clear

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connection between the cafe
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And what that is, is,

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you know, I believe that

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reclaiming our

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traditional food pathways
and our connection to our

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our traditional foods
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in the wounds of colonization
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And so through that mission of, you know,
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we're able to offer a space for,

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you know, native people to come in
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that perhaps they haven't seen in a long
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maybe their family was removed
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and brought out here to Seattle.

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And so, you know, I want to serve
as that space for folks to come in

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and to learn and relearn their connections
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And I believe that's
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really start to regain our sense of self
and who we are in our connection to food.

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Because connection to food, you know,
it is so important to our culture.

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I know as Anishinaabe people
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you know, we're really nothing
without wild rice, without mnomen.

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And that that food is directly
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our origin story and who we are as people.

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And so it's
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a direct link

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between us and that food And without that
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what our culture would be and who are
people would be.

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So, you know, with that being said,

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you know, I think that the cafe serves
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to spark that conversation with people and
and gain awareness of the fight that,

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you know, a lot of Native
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their traditional foods
and protecting their traditional foods.

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We have a lot of issues with pipelines
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home,

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you know, oil pipelines

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and, you know,
so gaining awareness of that,

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as well as raising awareness
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I guess, the average Seattleite

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and understanding the mission of Chief
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so that the cafe, you know,
kind of serves as a space for people

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to come in and, you know, obviously
hopefully get some really good food.

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I oversee the kitchens.

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I hope, you know, if everyone's
been there, I hope you like the food.

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I won't hurt my feelings
if you don't, you know.

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But yeah, I mean, I think so.

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It's you know, it's an entry point

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into learning about traditional foods
and learning about the work of the club.

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So, yeah, really honored to be doing this
work and to be here with all of you today

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and excited to,
you know, kind of share more about,

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you know,
some of the work that we're doing.

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So miigwech (Thank You).

252
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Hi, everyone.

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My name is Neli.

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I am the Environmental Justice
Programs manager at Young Women Empowered.

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Y-WE
I feel very honored to be here with you

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all on this panel and everyone here.

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So Y-WE, Young Women Empowered.

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Our mission is to cultivate the power
of diverse young women and gender

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expansive youth to be creative
changemakers within their communities.

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We do that

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through a lot of different types of youth
programing,

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ranging from creative expression
to social justice issues.

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And Jaydalen and I get to be
on the environmental justice

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and food sovereignty side of things.

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We primarily work with BIPOC

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youth, queer and trans youth folks

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who are often pushed to the margins.

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And uh, yeah,

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so some of our goals at Marra Farm
in South Park where we get to do our 

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Y-WE Grow program,
which is focused on farming

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and food justice, our primary goal

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and maybe I'll say our foundational goal
is to create a

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space
where our young people can feel a sense

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of joy, healing, connection

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with each other, and also in relationship
with their environment and the land.

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We know that essentially

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all the youth that we work with,
whether they're indigenous to this land

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or part of diaspora, have experienced
trauma at the side of the land,

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whether that's personally or ancestrally.

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And so we recognize a lot of young people

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coming into this space
at Marra Farm in South Park.

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Many of them don't see themselves there

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or feel as many of them
feel unsafe in these spaces.

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So it's kind of foundational
for us to create

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a place where they can kind
of regulate their nervous systems

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and, you know, lean on each other,
but also their environment,

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plant allies, the creek,
the soil, to start to kind of

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embody into the space and into the land.

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So that's the first thing we do
from there.

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We also like to develop skills,
we call them skills for interdependence.

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So we recognize that
a lot of these systems, food systems

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included, were not built for us
in our communities.

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They are steeped in racism and injustice.

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So we like to think about

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how can we develop skills
where we can take care of each other.

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So that includes gardening and
growing our own food, our cultural foods.

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But it also means food preservation,

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woodworking, ecosystem

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restoration, chicken
care, fruit tree care,

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uh, mushroom cultivation.

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And the idea is that, yeah,
even through these brief workshops,

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we can start building
those skills, building that interest.

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But the idea too, is that, you know,

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we can take care of each other 
for now and in the future,

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and they can also go on to share
those skills with their communities,

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families
and be leaders in these spaces as well.

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Next, we really focus on

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kind of learning about environmental
justice and food justice.

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There's often a narrative that

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this is new for BIPOC community
to be connecting with the outdoors

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and growing food.

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And we recognize that this is like
the opposite, like

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this is core to who we are.

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And so it's about remembering
those connections and those lessons

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and getting to really highlight

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the people whose shoulders we stand on

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and also recognizing
the original stewards of the land

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that we are so,
so lucky to get to steward at Marra Farm.

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And then,

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yeah, our last goal is to
we say love on community.

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So we have cohorts of
about 20 young people

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and about four adult mentors
that spend time with us at the farm.

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We have a spring cohort, fall cohort,

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and then we do a paid internship
in the summer.

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And so throughout all of these cohorts,
the young people get to

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get creative and plan offerings
that they want to share

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with the larger community,
and that can look like community events.

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 We've made a zine
sharing food, sharing,

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gardening resources, so kind of sharing
that abundance outwards.

330
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Yeah.

331
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So I'll pause there.

332
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I guess there isn't much too much to add
for me to share about Y-WE but I guess

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being here,
I can be that representative of just

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the joy and love and healing
that I receive from being a part of Y-WE.

335
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And yeah, I'm also just here to learn
and yeah,

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listen in to also do better.

337
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And maybe I'll add one thing, Jaydalen,

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you were in the first group
of young people to ever visit the farm.

339
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Do you want to share a little
bit about your story? 

340
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Yeah,

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I started in 2019
and that's like the height of the pandemic

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and everything was kind of just like,

343
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I'm sure things
people were going through their journeys

344
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with dealing with how
they are showing up in spaces and why

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and Y-WE Grow was my safe space,

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like where I can actually connect
with other people, connect with myself.

347
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Most importantly,
and build my relationship with the land.

348
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That's
where I received a lot of healing there.

349
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I remember many times
where I would show up with whatever

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I was holding and just being in that space
to really be who I am.

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And learning all the ways to show up in

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community is was very healing for me,
still is very healing.

353
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And now I get to have the opportunity
to work alongside with Nelly and Tia,

354
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who are holding down the grow.

355
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Yeah, I'm very grateful.

356
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All right. Thank you all for intros.

357
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We're going to jump into this

358
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and I think this is a good Segway,
what you just said.

359
00:21:54,246 --> 00:21:56,782
Jade Island is a good segue
for this next question.

360
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And I think we're going to start
we'll start with you, Jaydalen,

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because it actually kind of
just a perfect, perfect segue.

362
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So can you tell us a little bit about

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your pandemic experience
around food access and justice

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and how you see this as an area,
as an avenue

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for healing and connection?

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The program that you hear
Nelly and I talk about Grow,

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I think it's a great outlet for

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especially youth, who

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from my experience, I felt a sense of like

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I didn't feel like a sense of belonging
or a sense of self

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or I felt very powerless.

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So being in

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that space, a container
to really grow and heal

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and just learn ways that I can show up,

375
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it's like having it's like healing

376
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and also putting into action
and like having those three things

377
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like releasing the trauma, like talking
about things that have hurt us

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and then going through ways
how we can heal by

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like taking care of the land
and supporting each other

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and then putting it into action by having

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meetings
where we plan events that we want to do.

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I think those three things
have been very important

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in terms of healing and food justice.

384
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Yeah.

385
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Neli, do you want to

386
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tackle that question?

387
00:23:29,908 --> 00:23:30,909
Sure.

388
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Yeah, I think the pandemic.

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So we were about to start

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heading into Marra Farm,
like waking up the garden

391
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right
when, you know, lockdown happened. And

392
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yeah, there
was, there was just so much going on.

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I was really grateful in the pandemic that

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so we had like young people
and then also their parents

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and caregivers,
they were like, I can't be inside anymore.

396
00:24:00,872 --> 00:24:03,542
I feel really isolated, you know?

397
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How would you feel if we came out there
to kind of help you all at the garden?

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Like we feel okay with it?

399
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Because Y-WE at that point had shut down
all of our programing in person.

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So and one of the parents was a physician.

401
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So I was like, okay,
if you say you can come out here, sure.

402
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,697
And then we started doing it and
we were like, Oh, this is this feels okay.

403
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So we started our 
Y-WE Grow programing at the farm June 2020.

404
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And we've had young people out there
since then and you know,

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the rest of our
Y-WE  programing was online

406
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basically through 2021.

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So like the fact that we could

408
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be a space where young people
could come together in person, it was

409
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they were telling us
this was the only time

410
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they were interacting
with other people their age in person.

411
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So I think that sense of like isolation,

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panic, fear, rage with social justice,

413
00:25:03,301 --> 00:25:07,973
you know, racial justice, uprisings,
I think there was a huge need.

414
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In addition
to what folks were getting at home online

415
00:25:12,244 --> 00:25:17,749
in social media through the news of like
what's going on and how to plug in.

416
00:25:17,749 --> 00:25:22,420
I think they also needed that mirror space
where they can be in person,

417
00:25:23,889 --> 00:25:28,059
tap into like their physical embodied
present space

418
00:25:28,059 --> 00:25:32,097
rather than like the mediated experience
of just being bombarded

419
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with with the news in the panic.

420
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So I feel extremely grateful.

421
00:25:38,937 --> 00:25:43,441
The timing, because we started at Marra
Farm in 2019, the fact that we had

422
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that space to be able to invite
folks into was really was really huge.

423
00:25:47,779 --> 00:25:51,082
And then with that, like Jaydalen said,
young people were coming

424
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kind of fried, like feeling,
feeling a lot.

425
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So the fact that they could come in
and feel,

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yes, their joy of being able
to connect with each other, but

427
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:08,700
also the deep sadness, the rage,
like I mentioned,

428
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and have somewhere to kind of channel it,
like with their hands in the land, like,

429
00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:15,206
you know,

430
00:26:15,206 --> 00:26:18,209
in the dirt, in, you know, by the creek.

431
00:26:18,209 --> 00:26:20,979
Like it
kind of created that outlet for them to

432
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release the stress that was building.

433
00:26:25,450 --> 00:26:27,752
And so I feel really grateful for that.

434
00:26:27,752 --> 00:26:31,022
And also, like Jaydalen said,
that that purpose piece, like

435
00:26:31,523 --> 00:26:34,993
we were feeling a complete lack of agency
at that time.

436
00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:38,763
So the fact that young people
could plug in to immediate like

437
00:26:40,065 --> 00:26:42,200
food sovereignty actions
that we were taking, 

438
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,236
South Park is an amazing community.

439
00:26:45,236 --> 00:26:48,506
The way that they showed up
during the pandemic, 

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00:26:48,506 --> 00:26:51,910
South Park experiences food apartheid,
which is a lack of

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00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:57,515
fresh local produce, organic produce,
disproportionately

442
00:26:57,515 --> 00:27:00,885
impacting communities of color,
many immigrant communities in the area.

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00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,255
So neighbors just like came out

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00:27:04,255 --> 00:27:06,858
in full force,
started the food pantry system.

445
00:27:07,292 --> 00:27:11,129
We helped support meal distribution,
and then all the food that we were growing

446
00:27:11,129 --> 00:27:15,867
at Marra Farm went into the food pantries,
went to the local food bank.

447
00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:18,870
Neighbors also organized El Mercadito,

448
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:22,307
the first neighbor
organized farmer's market in South Park.

449
00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:26,911
So we got to plug into these efforts
and like, feel

450
00:27:26,911 --> 00:27:29,881
that sense of purpose and, and agency

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00:27:30,215 --> 00:27:32,717
that was so lacking at the time

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00:27:33,518 --> 00:27:37,656
and just want to give a shout out
to Monica Perez and Luciana Williams

453
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Cultivate South Park Urban Fresh Food
Collective doing that work there.

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00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:44,129
Yeah.

455
00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:47,298
And I also want to shout out Tayah Carlisle,
I meant to mention her name earlier.

456
00:27:47,298 --> 00:27:50,535
She does this work with us
and if you don't know where, there's

457
00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:53,805
a beautiful article in the Department
of Neighborhoods blog about Tayah.

458
00:27:54,639 --> 00:27:57,742
Yeah.

459
00:27:57,742 --> 00:27:59,444
Anthony I'll reiterate the question.

460
00:27:59,444 --> 00:28:01,413
Just that'd. Be nice. Yeah.

461
00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:04,549
So can you tell us a little bit
about your pandemic experience

462
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:07,285
around food access, food justice

463
00:28:07,652 --> 00:28:11,923
and how you see this area
as an avenue for healing and connection?

464
00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:17,462
Well, in fall of 2019, when

465
00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:21,866
I grew up, grew up in the city,
I always been like an urban Indian,

466
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:23,968
urban native and

467
00:28:25,303 --> 00:28:28,339
never really had a connection to culture.

468
00:28:29,774 --> 00:28:33,878
Like, you know, a lot of folks
that grow up on the reservation do.

469
00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:36,915
So I didn't have that as a

470
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as a child and as like,
you know, a teenager.

471
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:42,721
And it

472
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:46,291
it really took my sister, who is probably,

473
00:28:47,092 --> 00:28:50,161
you know, one of the most important people
in my lives, who is

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00:28:50,929 --> 00:28:52,230
an Ojibwe language teacher.

475
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:55,934
She's an immersion teacher at our
and on our on our tribe.

476
00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:57,335
They just opened

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00:28:57,335 --> 00:29:01,706
an Ojibwe immersion school
and she's the kindergarten teacher. And

478
00:29:01,906 --> 00:29:06,211
she really took it upon herself to reclaim
the language and learn the language

479
00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:08,179
and, you

480
00:29:08,179 --> 00:29:11,216
know, is now able to teach that to,
you know, the little ones.

481
00:29:11,216 --> 00:29:13,284
So that's their their first language
growing up.

482
00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:17,489
And so she was instrumental and,

483
00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:21,493
you know, being able for, you know, for me
to reclaim my indigeneity,

484
00:29:22,627 --> 00:29:25,330
you know, being separated
from the community like that.

485
00:29:27,165 --> 00:29:29,734
So that, you know, that being said,

486
00:29:30,668 --> 00:29:32,103
you know, I

487
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,572
in in fall 2019

488
00:29:34,572 --> 00:29:37,976
when on my first first year hunting trip

489
00:29:38,643 --> 00:29:41,279
and kind of near Red Lake

490
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:46,151
but unsuccessful but I really like
we really changed the way that I look

491
00:29:46,151 --> 00:29:50,054
about the way that I look at food
and the way that I look looked at meat

492
00:29:51,089 --> 00:29:54,726
and it really flipped a switch
where I wanted to.

493
00:29:55,093 --> 00:29:55,527
Now it's,

494
00:29:55,527 --> 00:29:58,730
you know, want to pretty much hunting
is pretty much one of the only things

495
00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:59,330
I think about

496
00:30:00,498 --> 00:30:02,000
to my partner's demise, I guess.

497
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,105
But it's like it planted that seed
And then with the pandemic,

498
00:30:07,105 --> 00:30:09,741
you know, happening six or so odd months

499
00:30:10,441 --> 00:30:14,012
after that, that hunting trip,

500
00:30:14,012 --> 00:30:19,417
I really started to question, you know,
you know, question everything in my life.

501
00:30:19,417 --> 00:30:24,422
I had studied business and studied finance
and was working for a corporation

502
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:29,160
who shall remain nameless
and didn't feel like I fit

503
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,330
in, didn't feel like
I had a purpose in life.

504
00:30:33,531 --> 00:30:39,270
And so I went to the drawing board
and I just started to think about

505
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:41,940
how I could give back to the community,
how I could get involved

506
00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:48,213
in in the indigenous
like world, in the native world.

507
00:30:48,213 --> 00:30:50,381
You know, there's a lot of folks
that go into medicine,

508
00:30:50,381 --> 00:30:54,118
there's a lot of folks that go into,
you know, planning government.

509
00:30:54,719 --> 00:30:58,489
And I was just and I thought about food
that that's that's what I wanted to do.

510
00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:01,593
So while, you know, I was lucky enough

511
00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:04,095
to be in that corporate position,
working from home

512
00:31:05,396 --> 00:31:09,467
pretty much had all my meetings
camera off, mute and was just cooking

513
00:31:09,834 --> 00:31:13,872
my cooking just as much as I possibly
could, just learning

514
00:31:13,905 --> 00:31:17,775
everything that I could about indigenous
foods, reading books, reading blog posts.

515
00:31:18,776 --> 00:31:21,813
Going to the other native restaurants
in Minneapolis to learn about

516
00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:23,781
what those pioneers in indigenous

517
00:31:23,781 --> 00:31:26,184
foods were doing, what they were cooking,
what they were making.

518
00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:30,655
And I knew that that's
where I wanted to like, pivot my career

519
00:31:30,655 --> 00:31:33,291
and what I wanted to do with
my life is to just,

520
00:31:33,291 --> 00:31:36,728
you know, get into indigenous foods
by any means possible, really

521
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:39,631
by any means necessary.

522
00:31:39,931 --> 00:31:43,801
So, you know, through that process,
then I threw together

523
00:31:43,801 --> 00:31:47,605
a little like PowerPoint,
a little portfolio of like some food

524
00:31:47,605 --> 00:31:51,976
that I had made and sent it over to Chief
Seattle Club and said, you know,

525
00:31:51,976 --> 00:31:55,213
hey, this is what I want to do,
doesn't really fit with the cafe.

526
00:31:55,213 --> 00:31:57,248
But like, this is, you know,

527
00:31:58,149 --> 00:32:01,085
like, you know,
this is where I want to go with my life.

528
00:32:01,085 --> 00:32:04,122
And they took a gamble on that,
which was pretty cool.

529
00:32:04,122 --> 00:32:06,891
I'd never worked in food service
or anything, you know, was coming

530
00:32:07,325 --> 00:32:08,960
out of the corporate world.

531
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,098
So for me personally, there has been
a lot of healing and reclaiming.

532
00:32:14,098 --> 00:32:18,770
I guess, you know, my
my sense of my sense of self

533
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:23,441
and my my self-worth
to, you know, it I always felt

534
00:32:25,376 --> 00:32:25,710
it felt

535
00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:29,881
selfish to be, you know,
I guess working for a company

536
00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:33,451
that wasn't directly
benefiting the lives of Native people.

537
00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:36,220
And so I was able to hopefully, you know,

538
00:32:36,821 --> 00:32:40,391
take a step in the right direction where
I'm able to give back to the community.

539
00:32:40,391 --> 00:32:43,761
And, you know, and then I guess

540
00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:47,065
as we as we talk about just

541
00:32:47,065 --> 00:32:49,801
what, you know, happens
and what happened in the pandemic

542
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:53,471
was all the traditional protocols
and all the ways of harvesting,

543
00:32:53,671 --> 00:32:56,274
harvesting traditional food, we're like,
we're shut down.

544
00:32:56,274 --> 00:33:00,044
So in March, it's the Anishinaabe
New Year, it's the Ojibwe New Year.

545
00:33:00,044 --> 00:33:03,314
We're tapping maple trees
and we're turning that sap

546
00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:06,684
into maple sugar and then maple syrup.

547
00:33:07,552 --> 00:33:09,721
And obviously,
you know, it's around three,

548
00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:12,957
three years ago
where we weren't able to go out.

549
00:33:12,957 --> 00:33:18,396
But it's yeah, it's, it's
it's pretty amazing to you to kind of see

550
00:33:18,396 --> 00:33:23,801
the way that we're able to get creative
and find safe ways to go out and collect

551
00:33:23,801 --> 00:33:28,072
sap and, you know, go berry picking
and go hunting and everything like that.

552
00:33:28,439 --> 00:33:31,376
And so I was able to get back into
it, you know, after kind of

553
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:36,581
flipping that switch
in 2019 and pausing throughout 2020.

554
00:33:36,581 --> 00:33:40,818
And I know everyone's life is on hold,
but then, you know, 2021,

555
00:33:40,818 --> 00:33:45,289
it's been full steam ahead of,
you know, Nate's at it in the bio,

556
00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:49,160
just trying to decolonize decolonize
the diet, you know, only eat,

557
00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:52,196
you know, foods
that were here before contact.

558
00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:55,566
And it's hard to do but I think having

559
00:33:55,566 --> 00:33:57,835
that is like the lens and how I

560
00:33:58,669 --> 00:34:02,273
you know, try
to make meals and feed myself and you know

561
00:34:02,306 --> 00:34:06,210
I guess in the work that I do at the café,
that's the always going to be,

562
00:34:06,210 --> 00:34:10,848
you know, try to try to be the mission
or both of those aspects of life.

563
00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:16,487
The pandemic was

564
00:34:18,022 --> 00:34:21,726
a big disruption for me.

565
00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:26,597
I usually bring my kids up in the summer
to Nome to visit my mom and my aunts

566
00:34:26,597 --> 00:34:32,136
and cousins, and we go berry
picking and fishing and we pick grains.

567
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:37,708
But I wasn't able to go in 2019
because of moving to a new house.

568
00:34:37,708 --> 00:34:41,579
And then during the pandemic,
we didn't get to go home either.

569
00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:44,949
And,

570
00:34:44,949 --> 00:34:47,218
it was kind of depressing because

571
00:34:48,319 --> 00:34:50,421
I have a lot of native food in my freezer

572
00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:55,026
and in my pantry, but
I really don't like eating it by myself

573
00:34:55,026 --> 00:35:00,631
because it's a family thing that I do
with my mom and my family, my kids.

574
00:35:00,631 --> 00:35:04,869
So it was hard to not be able
to go home and,

575
00:35:05,136 --> 00:35:10,708
like reinforce those traditions
with my children.

576
00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:15,546
But instead it really forced me
to get to know my new neighborhood

577
00:35:15,546 --> 00:35:18,716
and I've always known.

578
00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:19,817
Well, not always.

579
00:35:19,817 --> 00:35:23,087
I mean, I've always had
an interest in plants because I grew up

580
00:35:23,654 --> 00:35:26,357
outside all day long in the summer

581
00:35:26,924 --> 00:35:29,460
 and

582
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:33,931
my mom would send me under the bushes
to go pick her favorite, like,

583
00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:37,869
because I was small enough
to go find her favorite herbs in Alaska.

584
00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:42,106
So, I have, what is it called?

585
00:35:42,106 --> 00:35:42,974
Plant literacy.

586
00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:47,078
I think like,
I can tell the difference between plants.

587
00:35:47,078 --> 00:35:51,449
So, like, learning about native plants in
Washington State was pretty easy for me.

588
00:35:51,883 --> 00:35:53,951
And I, I was always interested in it.

589
00:35:53,951 --> 00:35:56,354
I really enjoyed doing it. So

590
00:35:57,321 --> 00:35:58,823
during the summer

591
00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:02,593
of 2020, I
took a lot of walks and got to know, like,

592
00:36:02,593 --> 00:36:07,231
just kind of paid attention
to what's in the forest by my house.

593
00:36:07,231 --> 00:36:11,102
I found a patch of trailing
blackberries.

594
00:36:11,636 --> 00:36:13,304
It's still kind of secret.

595
00:36:13,304 --> 00:36:17,508
Like, I'm not going to tell you
where it is, but I invited my brother.

596
00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:19,443
He lives in Kirkland to come,

597
00:36:19,443 --> 00:36:23,281
and he came and wore his mask,
and we went outside and picked berries.

598
00:36:23,281 --> 00:36:25,950
I think I still have a bag in my freezer.

599
00:36:26,484 --> 00:36:29,720
But that, that was
that felt like a really beautiful gift

600
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,157
from the world
to be able to find trailing blackberries.

601
00:36:33,157 --> 00:36:39,197
If you get a chance to eat them,
they are super tasty.

602
00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:43,201
I think loganberries or marionberries

603
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:46,771
they're one of
the plants that we're used to

604
00:36:47,805 --> 00:36:49,774
that because the flavor is so good

605
00:36:49,774 --> 00:36:52,343
that they're one of the
like grandparents of that

606
00:36:52,777 --> 00:36:55,813
breed of berry.

607
00:36:55,813 --> 00:36:59,717
And there were other plants
that I, I tried,

608
00:37:00,184 --> 00:37:03,688
I got a little sick because I don't know
what I'm doing, but it's still,

609
00:37:03,688 --> 00:37:07,858
it was just a nice way to, like,
kind of force me to get to know

610
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,995
the local native plants and kind of

611
00:37:10,995 --> 00:37:14,565
build a relationship with the land and the,
in a little different way.

612
00:37:14,832 --> 00:37:17,635
And then

613
00:37:19,003 --> 00:37:20,871
I think

614
00:37:21,138 --> 00:37:26,310
a lot of, a lot of issues
that came out of the pandemic,

615
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:29,280
like our communities have been saying

616
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,882
that things are unfair and

617
00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:36,721
that there's, there's
so much work, systemic racism

618
00:37:36,721 --> 00:37:40,658
that hasn't been addressed
for the Native community and the pandemic

619
00:37:40,658 --> 00:37:44,629
really made it out in the open
more like we couldn't ignore it anymore.

620
00:37:44,629 --> 00:37:46,931
And I'm grateful for that.

621
00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:51,002
But shifts in like the mainstream

622
00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:55,072
culture, like the mainstream,

623
00:37:55,072 --> 00:38:00,311
I guess, conversation about the issues,
I still think there's a lot of work to do.

624
00:38:00,711 --> 00:38:04,248
Let's see.

625
00:38:04,248 --> 00:38:05,283
I don't know.

626
00:38:08,052 --> 00:38:10,488
Last summer was the first time

627
00:38:10,488 --> 00:38:15,059
that we were able to go back to Alaska,
and I really appreciate it.

628
00:38:15,059 --> 00:38:19,130
We were we usually I
try to go up for like three weeks

629
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:21,666
because it's
so expensive to fly back home.

630
00:38:22,566 --> 00:38:25,736
And we were there for
like eight days and it was

631
00:38:26,871 --> 00:38:27,872
a whirlwind.

632
00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:31,409
And of course the weather was bad
while we were there.

633
00:38:32,643 --> 00:38:34,211
But,

634
00:38:34,779 --> 00:38:37,515
yeah, I, I mean, I always appreciate

635
00:38:38,015 --> 00:38:43,020
what we're able to gather
because appreciation is one of the

636
00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:47,558
sustainable values.  Like you have to be
think for while you're gathering.

637
00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:50,695
And that's a way that you give back to
the world

638
00:38:50,695 --> 00:38:55,466
is by expressing
thankfulness to the plants and animals.

639
00:38:55,466 --> 00:38:58,202
But I think the pandemic made it
a little

640
00:38:58,836 --> 00:39:02,340
like a little more meaningful where I was
really, really grateful to be able

641
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:06,777
to go back home, go back to the tundra
and, be with the land again.

642
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:12,550
So, yeah, I don't know if that actually.

643
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:15,152
The next question
what you're saying really again

644
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:17,154
works well with our next question.

645
00:39:17,154 --> 00:39:20,291
So I'm going to start with you,
Demarus.

646
00:39:20,825 --> 00:39:25,429
How do we as a community
intentionally make space to think about

647
00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:30,101
indigenous sovereignty, food
sovereignty and racial justice together.

648
00:39:34,772 --> 00:39:35,406
When.

649
00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:39,944
Lets see, one of the things from our food
equity talking circle that we did

650
00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:45,349
last year,
one of the big things that I brought up

651
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:49,253
for the Food Action
Plan update is to just even point out

652
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:53,457
that traditional first food
is not even viewed as a food.

653
00:39:54,925 --> 00:39:57,495
There is a lot of native plants
that are edible

654
00:39:57,495 --> 00:40:00,131
and they're just not viewed
as something to eat

655
00:40:01,732 --> 00:40:03,801
for the common acre work.

656
00:40:03,801 --> 00:40:05,469
The Green Line site.

657
00:40:05,469 --> 00:40:09,073
I also want to just invite everybody to go
check it out.

658
00:40:10,174 --> 00:40:12,343
That is a native plant restoration site.

659
00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:16,947
That program was set up before me

660
00:40:16,947 --> 00:40:20,184
and everyone on our
like we flipped our board.

661
00:40:20,184 --> 00:40:22,486
We used to be white led.

662
00:40:22,653 --> 00:40:26,857
Now it's, it's a BIPOC organization
BIPOC led

663
00:40:27,725 --> 00:40:31,829
and the program
structure for the green Line.

664
00:40:32,963 --> 00:40:35,199
But their goal was to

665
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:39,003
plant native plants for bees and birds.

666
00:40:39,003 --> 00:40:43,340
But they don't view the native plants
as serving a purpose for people.

667
00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:46,477
And I view all of the plants that are

668
00:40:46,477 --> 00:40:48,646
there as medicine and food

669
00:40:49,547 --> 00:40:53,150
and as a way for us to help.

670
00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:58,155
Coast Salish tribes
build a relationship with the plants

671
00:40:58,155 --> 00:40:59,423
that are there.

672
00:40:59,423 --> 00:41:03,761
And like trying to work

673
00:41:03,761 --> 00:41:08,732
from the bottom up to change that view
of what the purpose of land is.

674
00:41:08,732 --> 00:41:10,468
It's, it's actually, it's really hard.

675
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:13,404
A lot of these ideas
about what conservation is.

676
00:41:14,071 --> 00:41:17,041
 What land management is, like,

677
00:41:17,041 --> 00:41:20,478
what's the role of humanity in nature.

678
00:41:20,511 --> 00:41:24,482
A lot of that is really hard
and to change the view of

679
00:41:24,849 --> 00:41:27,885
what is our purpose and what do we do.

680
00:41:28,185 --> 00:41:33,757
I still try to change people's viewpoint
all the time about conservation

681
00:41:33,757 --> 00:41:38,996
can and should include people
that when there is a lot of evidence

682
00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:42,299
that shows,
like when people are interacting

683
00:41:42,299 --> 00:41:45,536
with the land, that nature

684
00:41:45,936 --> 00:41:48,572
does better,
like it grows better, it's healthier.

685
00:41:49,907 --> 00:41:52,776
And to remove people from the land

686
00:41:53,277 --> 00:41:57,147
is is harmful to the plants and animals.

687
00:41:57,147 --> 00:42:02,119
So we just we need to
I think we need a shift in mindset

688
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,155
about what it means to be human and,

689
00:42:05,756 --> 00:42:07,791
and how to interact with plants.

690
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:11,462
I forget what was the other?

691
00:42:13,564 --> 00:42:14,899
Really around finding ways

692
00:42:14,899 --> 00:42:17,902
I mean acknowledging
these are intersectional issues, right.

693
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,308
- Oh how to support.

694
00:42:24,308 --> 00:42:25,976
- Food sovereignty, racial justice.
- Yeah.

695
00:42:25,976 --> 00:42:27,511
- And really this,
this idea of making space,

696
00:42:27,511 --> 00:42:30,381
I mean, obviously today we're making space
to think about these issues.

697
00:42:30,881 --> 00:42:34,652
How do you see you know in
some of your work aligning with

698
00:42:34,652 --> 00:42:39,924
with those intersectional issues and again
continually to to make space to yeah.

699
00:42:39,957 --> 00:42:42,660
To talk about to deal with to work on.

700
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:47,064
- I think, I think also
one of the biggest things that our ...

701
00:42:47,064 --> 00:42:50,968
like the groups that I've been working
with keep struggling

702
00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:56,006
is just having land that we can manage it

703
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:02,146
on our own, on our terms and how,
how we want to manage it and to not have

704
00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:04,548
like a top down definition

705
00:43:04,548 --> 00:43:08,285
of what you can do with the space,
like being able to have the freedom

706
00:43:08,285 --> 00:43:11,789
to grow what we want and manage the land

707
00:43:11,789 --> 00:43:15,159
and the way that we decide is, is good.

708
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:18,729
That, that's
something that keeps coming up.

709
00:43:18,729 --> 00:43:23,667
And, there's also a theme of wanting
to be able to co-create

710
00:43:24,001 --> 00:43:28,472
funding opportunities
like don't, don't have the top down.

711
00:43:28,472 --> 00:43:31,775
They're telling us what we should do,
like our community.

712
00:43:32,576 --> 00:43:34,912
But a lot of our work is grassroots,

713
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,749
like being, like being able to have the,

714
00:43:39,183 --> 00:43:41,352
the power at the same level,

715
00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:45,956
like so that we have equal
or maybe even a little stronger voice.

716
00:43:45,956 --> 00:43:50,461
And what we would like to do
and co-creating the opportunities for that

717
00:43:50,694 --> 00:43:54,231
to actually happen.

718
00:43:54,231 --> 00:43:59,036
Excellent.

719
00:43:59,036 --> 00:44:00,771
So

720
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:02,940
yeah, so I guess the

721
00:44:02,940 --> 00:44:05,643
way that I'm thinking about this is,

722
00:44:05,976 --> 00:44:08,312
you know, through the direct work
at the, at the café.

723
00:44:09,713 --> 00:44:12,182
So I was telling Demarus,

724
00:44:12,349 --> 00:44:15,953
so I built the staffing model
of, of the café.

725
00:44:15,953 --> 00:44:20,824
And in my infinite wisdom,
I thought that I would have the capacity

726
00:44:20,824 --> 00:44:25,229
to be both the lead cook, run
the kitchen as well as do

727
00:44:25,229 --> 00:44:29,700
all the admin stuff related to the café,
which it turns out that I can't.

728
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,803
So I've been pretty much

729
00:44:34,338 --> 00:44:36,674
I've been probably like a 95

730
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:39,343
five split between 95% in the kitchen

731
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:42,279
during the day to day
operations of running that.

732
00:44:43,147 --> 00:44:47,785
And then probably 5%
on the kind of bigger picture admin work.

733
00:44:48,218 --> 00:44:52,523
So four months under our belts
and starting to rethink

734
00:44:52,523 --> 00:44:56,493
how the staffing models set up, you, I'm
definitely going to try

735
00:44:56,493 --> 00:44:59,697
to have a more healthy balance
and a better split between those two.

736
00:45:00,330 --> 00:45:03,067
And the reason that, you know,
kind of give a little inside baseball

737
00:45:03,067 --> 00:45:06,937
there is because the café is a place
that I want

738
00:45:07,471 --> 00:45:11,408
to be a space
to have these conversations, to have

739
00:45:12,576 --> 00:45:14,311
the yeah,

740
00:45:14,311 --> 00:45:18,415
to be a place for Native folks
and non-Native folks to come in

741
00:45:18,415 --> 00:45:23,120
and learn about food sovereignty and learn
about traditional foods and beyond.

742
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,688
Just simply eating the foods.

743
00:45:24,688 --> 00:45:29,493
But in presentations,
native markets make makers markets

744
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,298
and really be a gathering space
for the community.

745
00:45:34,298 --> 00:45:38,302
So that is, I guess, something
to look forward to that,

746
00:45:38,602 --> 00:45:41,705
you know, got a bit of a better grasp
on how to run the

747
00:45:41,705 --> 00:45:45,843
I run the shop
and you know kind of reconfigure my time.

748
00:45:45,843 --> 00:45:48,779
I think I'm, you know, going to be able
to spend more time on

749
00:45:49,313 --> 00:45:52,382
planning those events,
advertising those events and gathering

750
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:58,021
other voices in the indigenous food space
and letting those folks share

751
00:45:58,021 --> 00:46:00,991
about the work that they're doing so that,

752
00:46:01,358 --> 00:46:05,229
you know, people can learn
about all the different avenues

753
00:46:05,229 --> 00:46:08,098
of the indigenous foods
and the food sovereignty movement.

754
00:46:08,465 --> 00:46:16,607
But I think it's also important to
maybe mention that a lot of these topics

755
00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:20,444
are very high up on like

756
00:46:20,444 --> 00:46:23,881
the higher Maslow's
hierarchy of needs like these,

757
00:46:24,248 --> 00:46:30,020
these topics are not something that,
you know, a day to day member of Chief

758
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:34,758
Seattle Club who's riding the busses
all night to stay safe and to stay dry.

759
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:38,328
It's a very difficult conversation
and a topic

760
00:46:38,729 --> 00:46:40,931
for us to talk about with them

761
00:46:41,398 --> 00:46:44,401
simply because they're trying
to make it to the next day.

762
00:46:45,102 --> 00:46:48,205
So that's, I guess, like a duality
that I always try to think about, or

763
00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:49,606
just to keep in mind

764
00:46:49,606 --> 00:46:52,843
that a lot of the folks that we serve
in our core focus of the club

765
00:46:52,843 --> 00:46:57,815
and the focus of the work that we're doing
is, you know, providing meals every day,

766
00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:02,252
providing hygiene services, showers,
those day to day supplies that folks need.

767
00:47:03,253 --> 00:47:06,356
And, you know, and then on top of that,

768
00:47:06,557 --> 00:47:09,626
I guess looking at the bigger picture
and trying to,

769
00:47:10,661 --> 00:47:14,832
yeah, dance between those two
kind of tensions that I see.

770
00:47:15,566 --> 00:47:18,335
So 
- Thank you, Anthony.

771
00:47:18,936 --> 00:47:21,238
I want to jump to our last question.

772
00:47:21,238 --> 00:47:23,740
I'm going to start with
with Nellie and Jaydalen

773
00:47:25,108 --> 00:47:27,044
So I feel like
this is a really important question

774
00:47:27,044 --> 00:47:32,349
and thank you to everybody that's here,
everybody that's tuning in online.

775
00:47:32,349 --> 00:47:37,521
But the question is, again, for, for,
for Nellie and Jaydalen, how would you like

776
00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:41,024
to see city staff and community leaders
supporting

777
00:47:41,558 --> 00:47:44,094
your work?

778
00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:50,033
All right.

779
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:50,968
Hello?

780
00:47:51,668 --> 00:47:55,005
 Let's see.

781
00:47:55,005 --> 00:47:56,940
I have a few thoughts.

782
00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:59,910
I think echoing what Demarus

783
00:48:00,010 --> 00:48:03,280
had shared around access to land.

784
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,549
So the way that we access our plot

785
00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:09,319
at Marra Farm is through the city,
through the Department of Neighborhoods.

786
00:48:09,319 --> 00:48:09,820
Thank you.

787
00:48:11,355 --> 00:48:13,624
And we're really grateful.

788
00:48:13,624 --> 00:48:17,427
And we also are in good relationship
with you all, Nate’s our,

789
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:21,665
Nate’s the person I talked to, actually.

790
00:48:21,932 --> 00:48:24,768
And just recognizing, like,
wanting to honor,

791
00:48:25,202 --> 00:48:29,640
 you know, what's happening
with nurturing roots right now of, 

792
00:48:29,973 --> 00:48:35,746
you know, that they have been investing
their time and love into the land

793
00:48:35,746 --> 00:48:40,784
and community for eight years,
and then that can be taken away from them.

794
00:48:41,184 --> 00:48:43,820
So I think, yeah,

795
00:48:43,820 --> 00:48:46,690
that's,
that's one piece is like access to land

796
00:48:47,958 --> 00:48:51,695
that where people can actually

797
00:48:52,529 --> 00:48:54,831
grow roots and not feel like

798
00:48:55,198 --> 00:48:59,202
they can be displaced at any moment and
not actually be displaced at any moment.

799
00:48:59,202 --> 00:49:01,371
I think that's really important

800
00:49:01,772 --> 00:49:04,675
and maybe they can share
a little bit more about that too.

801
00:49:05,175 --> 00:49:10,147
I think the other piece is, you know,
we are really also grateful

802
00:49:10,147 --> 00:49:14,418
to be funded through the city
grant programs.

803
00:49:14,418 --> 00:49:18,355
That is an incredible, you know,
the Environmental Justice Fund like these

804
00:49:18,355 --> 00:49:20,757
are incredible opportunities

805
00:49:21,358 --> 00:49:24,227
for us to access needed resources.

806
00:49:25,262 --> 00:49:27,130
So keep up with that.

807
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:30,600
And I think there can be challenges

808
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,270
with funding models asking,

809
00:49:34,071 --> 00:49:37,708
you know, communities to compete
for resources.

810
00:49:37,774 --> 00:49:42,846
That is, you know, for a finite set
of resources that is really challenging.

811
00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:46,216
And the other piece too, of like

812
00:49:46,216 --> 00:49:51,121
always wanting community
to be doing something new or different,

813
00:49:51,121 --> 00:49:53,991
like the act of actually sustaining
and allowing

814
00:49:54,891 --> 00:49:58,762
programing or whatever
we're working on to naturally evolve.

815
00:49:58,762 --> 00:50:03,066
It might not look like a big shiny
new program,

816
00:50:03,066 --> 00:50:07,170
but valuing like a natural
organic evolution in the way that,

817
00:50:07,637 --> 00:50:13,143
you know, plants do and our earth does,
I think that's really important.

818
00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:16,813
And I think another piece would be,

819
00:50:19,883 --> 00:50:22,586
I think sometimes interacting

820
00:50:22,586 --> 00:50:26,957
with city folks, again, really grateful
to have a strong relationship,

821
00:50:27,958 --> 00:50:31,094
but sometimes it can seem disjointed
As someone coming in

822
00:50:31,094 --> 00:50:33,864
from a community based organization realm.

823
00:50:35,132 --> 00:50:37,434
I can talk to a lot of folks

824
00:50:37,434 --> 00:50:40,003
from many, you know, parts of the city

825
00:50:40,537 --> 00:50:43,874
that might not know each other
or know that I'm talking.

826
00:50:44,074 --> 00:50:46,610
So I sometimes
have to play that middle person.

827
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:50,080
But with that, sometimes
we fall through the cracks as well.

828
00:50:51,181 --> 00:50:54,251
So encouraging inter

829
00:50:54,251 --> 00:50:58,155
I don't know what you all call
an interdepartmental relationship

830
00:51:00,390 --> 00:51:02,592
I think would be really, really great.

831
00:51:02,592 --> 00:51:05,028
And then.

832
00:51:05,028 --> 00:51:08,398
And as for how

833
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:14,271
I guess we'd like the city to help
support is to care to listen,

834
00:51:14,271 --> 00:51:20,710
especially with the youth as young people
I think we all have been young people.

835
00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:24,114
So I think it's very important that

836
00:51:25,048 --> 00:51:27,751
to create that healing,
that generational healing.

837
00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:29,486
We listen to the people

838
00:51:29,486 --> 00:51:32,222
and especially ourselves
because we are a mirror to each other.

839
00:51:33,256 --> 00:51:34,591
I know that

840
00:51:34,591 --> 00:51:39,362
even the mentors like speaking that how 
Y-WE we have mentors

841
00:51:39,362 --> 00:51:42,966
who are in their young adult years
and then we have us youth

842
00:51:42,966 --> 00:51:47,003
interacting with them in that already
I can see healing and change.

843
00:51:47,003 --> 00:51:50,941
I think just being able to communicate
and treat each other with that same

844
00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,977
respect is really important
when it comes to like

845
00:51:54,444 --> 00:51:58,281
how we can be involved with each other
because everything is connected

846
00:51:58,582 --> 00:51:59,449
and that's what we get

847
00:51:59,449 --> 00:52:02,586
to learn being at the farm
that we're all connected in somehow

848
00:52:02,853 --> 00:52:05,455
and we all get to make that change.

849
00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:07,324
Yeah.

850
00:52:07,324 --> 00:52:10,260
Thank you.

851
00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:11,761
Maybe I have one thing to add,
but I want to hear

852
00:52:11,761 --> 00:52:14,097
what they have to say first,
and then I can. What?

853
00:52:14,231 --> 00:52:17,267
And I just wanna say thank you
for for calling out the interdepartmental

854
00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:18,535
communication piece.

855
00:52:18,535 --> 00:52:20,871
The city is is a large entity, and

856
00:52:22,172 --> 00:52:23,173
we could do better with that.

857
00:52:23,173 --> 00:52:25,108
So thank you for calling that out.

858
00:52:25,108 --> 00:52:27,844
We, we do our time is limited.

859
00:52:27,844 --> 00:52:30,714
So, but I do want to hear from Anthony
and Demarus

860
00:52:30,714 --> 00:52:36,286
on this last question
about how we can better support your work.

861
00:52:36,286 --> 00:52:37,554
I think

862
00:52:38,088 --> 00:52:41,191
I mean, yeah, I guess keep it brief.

863
00:52:41,191 --> 00:52:46,363
I think capital is super important,
you know, receiving funding.

864
00:52:46,363 --> 00:52:47,497
We have

865
00:52:48,965 --> 00:52:50,200
one grant through the 

866
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,837
Food Equity Fund, Department of Neighborhoods
that we've received.

867
00:52:54,271 --> 00:52:56,439
That's a two year grant, but

868
00:52:57,541 --> 00:53:00,710
margins are are pretty thin and 

869
00:53:00,710 --> 00:53:05,282
food service and Chief Seattle Club, 
you know,we try to pay our folks a living wage.

870
00:53:05,282 --> 00:53:08,852
You know, no one at the club 
earns under 20 bucks an hour

871
00:53:09,052 --> 00:53:14,257
and so you know and benefits and
all this stuff so it's expensive to run

872
00:53:15,992 --> 00:53:18,061
you know a business within a nonprofit.

873
00:53:18,061 --> 00:53:22,032
And so direct investment through capital
and supporting with

874
00:53:23,466 --> 00:53:25,502
easy grant requirements like this

875
00:53:25,936 --> 00:53:28,638
you know grant that we have is is offering
where

876
00:53:29,306 --> 00:53:32,475
it's kind of this outcome based,

877
00:53:32,475 --> 00:53:36,780
you know, outcome based invoicing where,
you know, we're able to put together

878
00:53:37,013 --> 00:53:40,417
attainable goals and if we achieve
those goals, were able to invoice for,

879
00:53:41,017 --> 00:53:42,152
you know, certain amounts of money.

880
00:53:42,152 --> 00:53:45,722
So keeping
those administrative burdens down

881
00:53:45,989 --> 00:53:51,228
and I guess increasing, you know,
donation of capital or, you know, not

882
00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:57,834
donation, but, you know, access to capital
is really important.

883
00:53:57,834 --> 00:54:00,570
Oh, I'll just repeat and

884
00:54:00,570 --> 00:54:04,307
yeah, the competition

885
00:54:04,307 --> 00:54:08,211
for limited
funding is super frustrating. 

886
00:54:09,412 --> 00:54:13,617
I know
like one of the previous reports from 2014

887
00:54:13,617 --> 00:54:18,121
with the Urban Native communities
said we want to be able to be cooperative.

888
00:54:18,722 --> 00:54:23,326
But the Yeah, grant
funding is very competitive.

889
00:54:23,326 --> 00:54:27,897
Also, yeah,
all the grant reporting is,

890
00:54:28,465 --> 00:54:33,903
is so much work
and the grant objectives

891
00:54:33,903 --> 00:54:37,707
don't always match what the community
wants to do, like what's important to us.

892
00:54:37,707 --> 00:54:41,011
So but again, just co-creating

893
00:54:41,011 --> 00:54:45,181
the grant opportunities
and the parameters, like what,

894
00:54:45,181 --> 00:54:49,653
what should be reporting
and what should the money be used for.

895
00:54:50,053 --> 00:54:51,121
I think some people, just

896
00:54:52,088 --> 00:54:54,891
everyday people just need money
like guaranteed

897
00:54:54,891 --> 00:54:58,895
basic income that that's the thing,
a small project that I'm working on.

898
00:55:03,033 --> 00:55:07,103
I know Rising Tides love to be able
to give our native neighborhood

899
00:55:07,103 --> 00:55:10,507
the findings presentation to city staff.

900
00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:13,109
It hasn't happened yet.

901
00:55:13,209 --> 00:55:18,915
We are so eager to share
all of the data

902
00:55:18,915 --> 00:55:22,152
that like the big picture data
that we have gathered, 

903
00:55:22,786 --> 00:55:25,588
and we would also love
to have funding to be able

904
00:55:25,588 --> 00:55:29,326
to dig into the qualitative data because

905
00:55:29,759 --> 00:55:35,165
768 people wrote thousands
and thousands of comments in our survey.

906
00:55:35,165 --> 00:55:40,570
And, we don't have to go do
 the outreach again.

907
00:55:40,570 --> 00:55:44,474
We can dig through the,
the data and find, 

908
00:55:44,741 --> 00:55:49,112
visioning and design and all like answers
to all kinds of questions.

909
00:55:49,112 --> 00:55:51,581
Let's see.

910
00:55:51,581 --> 00:55:54,150
I also I need capacity building support.

911
00:55:54,317 --> 00:55:56,019
I keep saying it and

912
00:55:57,220 --> 00:56:00,857
it's like
I have to go find the opportunities

913
00:56:00,957 --> 00:56:06,062
and also apply for funding to pay myself
to learn how to do things.

914
00:56:06,062 --> 00:56:10,700
And there's,
it just feels like there's a lot of I've,

915
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:13,703
I actually came across a program

916
00:56:13,703 --> 00:56:16,673
that was about capacity building but

917
00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:20,477
we don't even have the basic
things that they were looking for

918
00:56:20,477 --> 00:56:21,811
in order for me to apply.

919
00:56:21,811 --> 00:56:24,781
So there's there's just a lot of

920
00:56:24,781 --> 00:56:28,518
things that end up being restrictions,
like a lot of well-meaning,

921
00:56:28,518 --> 00:56:32,889
but maybe a little out of touch
with what is actually needed.

922
00:56:33,556 --> 00:56:37,494
But yeah, capacity building
I think is a huge thing.

923
00:56:37,827 --> 00:56:40,764
I would like to try

924
00:56:40,764 --> 00:56:43,366
to get more people
excited about planning and,

925
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:47,070
project management

926
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:51,174
all like being able
to build our own places and like

927
00:56:51,174 --> 00:56:54,811
have radical design, like all of that
stuff is like really exciting,

928
00:56:55,311 --> 00:56:59,582
and also long overdue.

929
00:56:59,582 --> 00:57:00,884
Thank you. Thank you to Demarus.

930
00:57:00,884 --> 00:57:04,621
And the Department of Neighborhoods
is going to be hosting Rising Tides next

931
00:57:04,621 --> 00:57:08,792
month, and we're looking forward to that
and hearing about all the amazing

932
00:57:08,792 --> 00:57:09,859
work that that's happened.

933
00:57:10,827 --> 00:57:11,094
All right.

934
00:57:11,094 --> 00:57:14,264
So as we close out, I just want to thank
everybody again for joining us

935
00:57:15,932 --> 00:57:20,136
and just join me in thanking our panelists
for for their work

936
00:57:20,136 --> 00:57:23,072
and for their contributions today
and sharing their work.
