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&gt;&gt;&gt; AUGUST 8th 2023 JOINT  

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MEETING OF THE HUMAN SERVICES  

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COMMITTEE AND THE SELECT  

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COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER.  

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IT IS 5: 31 A.M. I AM LISA  

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HERBOLD , CHAIR OF THE HUMAN  

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SERVICES COMMITTEE.  

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&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?  

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&gt;&gt; PRESENT  

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&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?  

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&gt;&gt;  PRESENT.  

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&gt;&gt; AND COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ IS  

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ALSO EXCUSED.  

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. ANYONE WANT TO  

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RELAY THE ATTENDANCE FOR THE  

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RECORD? THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO  

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WE WILL HEAR A BRIEF 

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INTRODUCTION TO COLLECTIVE  

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BARGAINING WITH THE SEATTLE  

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POLICE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION  

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BY COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. WE 

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WILL PROCEED TO THE  HEARING ON 

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COLLECTIVE BARGAINING WITH THE  

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MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, HEARING 

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BODIES, AND WE WILL MOVE TO  

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APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR OUR  

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COMMITTEE MEETING. I WANT TO  

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THANK COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR  

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THEIR FORBEARANCE.  I KNOW IT  

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HAS BEEN A LONG DAY AND WE HAVE 

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APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE  

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TODAY. IF THERE IS NO  

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OBJECTION, TODAY'S AGENDA WILL  

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ADOPTED. MAY THE CLERK PLEASE  

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READ AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.   

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&gt;&gt; AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE,  

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INTRODUCTION TO COLLECTIVE  

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BARGAINING WITH THE SEATTLE 

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE  

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DIRECTOR ESTHER HANDY AND GREG  

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INTRODUCTION TO THE COLLECTIVE  

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BARGAINING PROCESS.   

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US TODAY, THE COLLECTIVE  

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SEATTLE POLICE MANAGEMENT  

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ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU.  

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, CHAIR HER BOLD.   

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AS I PULL UP MY PRESENTATION, I 

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AM ESTHER HANDY,  DIRECTOR OF  

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COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF, AS YOU  

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NEGOTIATION PROCESSES TO SET  

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SOME CONTEXT FOR THE PUBLIC  

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HEARING. I AM JOINED BY HER  

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SUPERVISING ANALYST GREG DOSS,  

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SMALLER OF TWO UNIONS THAT  

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POLICE OFFICERS.  THE SEATTLE  

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OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SPOG,  

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TO THANK JESSE FRANCE FOR  

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WASHINGTON STATE LAW  

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CONCERNING PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT.  

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JUAREZ, COUNCILMEMBERS  HER 

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MAYOR. THIS COMMITTEE MEETS  

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STRATEGY FOR CITY UNIONS AND 

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OPEN PUBLIC MEETING ACT. THEY  

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IN OPEN SESSION. THAT IS A  

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GREG AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO  

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ANSWER QUESTIONS BEFORE TAKING  

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COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.  

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HANDY. GREG, DO YOU HAVE  

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THE LAST CONTRACT. THANKS.   

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NOT SEEING ANY. JUST BEFORE WE  

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MOVE ON, I DO WANT TO, AGAIN,  

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UNDERSCORE THE PURPOSE OF THE  

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HEARING, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED  

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LEADERSHIP OF PREVIOUS  

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 THAT THERE WAS THE ABILITY OF  

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THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS POLICE  

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LOT OF GOOD OUTCOMES WITH THE  

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LAST SPMA CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, 

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 AND A NUMBER OF THE  -- THAT  

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WERE REFLECTED IN THAT CONTRACT 

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WERE REFORMS THAT WERE  

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OUR POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY  

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PARTNERS, THE CPC, THE OPA AND  

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THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR  

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GENERAL IN ADVANCE OF THE 

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NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE SPMA  

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CONTRACT LAST TIME AROUND.  SO  

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WITH THAT IF THERE ARE NO  

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ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE WILL  

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PROCEED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.  

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I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO BE  

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HEARING FIRST FROM OUR  

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ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS, IS  

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THAT CORRECT, MR. CLERK? 

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&gt;&gt; THAT IS CORRECT, YES.  

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&gt;&gt; CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ  

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THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM?  

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&gt;&gt; AGENDA ITEM D, AGENDA ITEM  

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ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING WITH  

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THE SEATTLE POLICE MANAGEMENT  

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ASSOCIATION.  

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH. AS  

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PRESIDING OFFICER I AM OPENING  

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UP THE HEARING ON COLLECTIVE  

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BARGAINING WITH THE  SEATTLE  

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POLICE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION.  

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FOLKS ARE PROBABLY AWARE THAT  

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THIS HEARING OPENED UP A 3: 30  

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P.M. AND IN PERSON   

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REGISTRATION BEGAN AT 5:00.  

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AGAIN, MR. CLERK, MY NOTES SAY  

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I WILL CALL PEOPLE IN THE ORDER 

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OF REGISTRATION, BUT I BELIEVE  

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THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE ARE  

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GOING TO BE HEARING FIRST FROM  

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OUR ACCOUNT ABILITY PARTNERS?  

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&gt;&gt; YES.  

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&gt;&gt; OKAY. SO  THAT IS NOT IN  

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ORDER OF REGISTRATION. SO AM I  

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ASKING FOLKS TO THE TABLE, MR. 

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CLERK?   

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&gt;&gt; GIVEN THAT THAT IS NOT  

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FILMED, YOU COULD ASK --  

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&gt;&gt; OKAY. WHAT OUR  

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ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS LIKE TO 

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COME TO THE TABLE AND GIVE YOUR 

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COMMENTS THERE? IS THAT OKAY?  

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THANK YOU.   

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&gt;&gt; IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT ME TO  

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DO? I DON'T -- I DIDN'T HAVE 

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DIRECTION IF I AM SUPPOSED TO  

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DO THAT.   

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE  

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BEGINNING WITH OUR THREE  

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ACCOUNTABILITY BODIES. THE  

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COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION,  

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THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR  

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GENERAL AND THE OFFICE OF  

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POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU WILL 

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EACH HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO  

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SPEAK, AND I WILL ALLOW YOU TO  

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GO IN ORDER. WE ARE INTENDING  

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TO HEAR FIRST FROM THE  

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COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSIONER,  

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SO WE WILL START WITH THAT.  

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THAT WOULD BE GREAT. REVEREND  

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HUNTER?  

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD  

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EVENING. I AM DR. PATRICIA L  

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HUNTER, ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF 

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THE SEATTLE POLICE COMMISSION.  

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MY CO-CHAIRS ARE REVEREND  

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WALDEN AND JOE MARGOLIN.  

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COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED  THE  

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UPCOMING SPMA NEGOTIATION AND  

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TODAY WE ARE HERE TO DO THE  

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SAME. CBC REMAINS COMMITTED TO  

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GOALS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AS  

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OUTLINED IN THE POLICE  

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ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE AND   

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WE BELIEVE THAT COMMUNITY  

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CONCERNS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY  

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SHOULD BE ROBUSTLY PRESENTED AS 

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PART OF THE BARGAINING PROCESS. 

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THE COMMISSION IS PLEASED TO  

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NOTE THAT IT APPEARS THAT MANY  

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OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS  

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SUGGESTED TO COUNCIL THREE  

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YEARS AGO  HAVE IN FACT BEEN  

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IMPLEMENTED IN THE CURRENT SPMA 

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CONTRACT, INCLUDING USING A  

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PREPONDERANT STANDARD FOR  

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ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT ,  

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ACCEPTING DISHONESTY AND  

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REQUIREMENTS FOR MATERIAL  

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INFORMATION DURING  

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INVESTIGATIONS AND REFORMING  

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THE 180 DAY TIMELINE FOR OPA  

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INVESTIGATIONS AND ESTABLISHING 

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FIRM TIMELINES FOR EACH STEP OF 

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THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS,   

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INCLUDING APPEALS TO REDUCE THE 

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LENGTH OF TIME FOR CASES TO BE  

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RESOLVED, AND THREE, REFORMING  

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CERTAIN FEATURES OF THE  

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DISCIPLINARY PROCESS THAT  

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AFFECT PUBLIC CONFIDENCE. AS WE 

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NOTED IN OUR PRESENTATION IN  

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2019, THE ORDINANCE HAS NOT  

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BEEN FULLY IMPLEMENTED, WHICH  

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CONTINUES TO CAUSE FRICTION  

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BETWEEN POLICE CONTRACT TERMS  

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AND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS  

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AROUND THE CONSENT DECREE.   

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THERE ARE STILL GAPS THAT NEED  

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TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE UPCOMING 

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ROUNDS OF NEGOTIATIONS, AND WE 

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BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THREE  

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AREAS THAT THE COUNCIL AND SPMA 

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SHOULD STILL FOCUS ON  FOR THE  

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NEW ROUND OF CONTRACT  

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NEGOTIATIONS. THE OFFICE  --  

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NUMBER ONE, THE OPPOSITE POLICE 

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ACCOUNTABILITY HAS AN IMPORTANT 

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ROLE IN THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND  

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OVERSIGHT SYSTEM THAT IS  

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WELL-ADDRESSED, HOWEVER THE CPC 

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STILL PROPOSES THAT UNION  

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APPROVAL OF EXTENSIONS OF THE  

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180 DAY TIMELINE SHOULD NOT BE  

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REQUIRED WHEN OPA IS NOT  

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RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELAY.  

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NUMBER TWO, THE CPC ALSO  

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PROPOSES THAT THE STATUTE OF  

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LIMITATION SHOULD NOT APPLY FOR 

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SERIOUS EXCESSIVE FORCE, FOR  

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EXAMPLE, WITH DISHONESTY,  

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COMMERCIAL CONTACT OR THAT ALL  

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PERSONNEL FILE SHOULD BE  

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PROPOSED FOR AT LEAST SIX YEARS 

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AFTER THE OFFICER IS NO LONGER  

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EMPLOYED BY THE CITY.  NUMBER  

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THREE, CPC PROPOSES REFORMS TO  

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SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT AND  

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PRACTICE BY WHICH POLICE 

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AGENCIES PERMIT OFFICERS TO  

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WORK FOR OTHER EMPLOYERS WHEN  

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OFF DUTY WHILE STILL WEARING  

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SPD UNIFORMS, CARRYING WEAPONS  

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AND MAINTAINING THE POWER AND  

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AUTHORITY OF ON-DUTY OFFICERS.  

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THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ISSUED AN  

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EXECUTIVE ORDER DIRECTING A  

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COORDINATED INTERDEPARTMENTAL  

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EFFORT TO REQUIRE SPD TO  

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PROVIDE GREATER OVERSIGHT  

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THROUGH REGULATIONS AND  

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MANAGEMENT OF ALL SECONDARY  

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EMPLOYMENT FOR SPD OFFICERS.  

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THE CPC HAS ADDITIONAL  

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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE  

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OUTLINED IN OUR FORTHCOMING  

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LETTER INCLUDING SUGGESTIONS  

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THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE  

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LAST CONTRACT.  IT IS OUR  

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SINCERE HOPE THAT IN THE NEXT  

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ROUND OF CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS  

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THAT RECOMMENDATIONS BY ALL  

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ACCOUNT ABILITY PARTNERS WILL  

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BE IMPLANTED TO ENSURE THAT SPD 

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IS GUIDED BY CONSTITUTIONAL  

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POLICING AS INTENDED BY THE  

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CITY ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE.  

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FINALLY, THE COMMUNITY POLICE  

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COMMISSION IS CONCERNED WITH  

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THE BIASED CULTURE THAT IS  

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PREVALENT WITHIN THE SEATTLE  

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POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE BELIEVE  

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THAT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY  

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OF THE POLICE  CHIEF AND  

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MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE THAT SPD  

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IS A BIAS-FREE EMPLOYER.  WE  

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WERE RECENTLY MADE AWARE OF THE 

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VIDEO  AND IN THE PRECINCT HUNG 

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A TRUMPET PRESENT BANNER.  IT  

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IS INCUMBENT UPON MANAGEMENT, 

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TENANTS AND CAPTAINS TO  

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PROHIBIT REPROBATE BEHAVIOR AND 

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NOT NEGOTIATED AWAY FROM THIS 

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CONTRACT.  IT IS OUR HOPE THAT  

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THOSE WHO ALLOW THESE ACTS TO 

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GO UNPUNISHED WILL BE HELD  

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ACCOUNTABLE. THANK YOU. 

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR.  

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HUNTER. I BELIEVE NEXT WE HAVE 

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THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR  

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GENERAL, REPRESENTED BY DEPUTY  

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DIRECTOR SMITH.  

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&gt;&gt; YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AM 

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BETSY SCOTT, DEPUTY INSPECTOR  

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GENERAL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FROM  

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THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR  

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GENERAL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. WE  

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APPRECIATE BEING INCLUDED IN  

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THIS HEARING THIS EVENING.  IN  

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ADVANCED BARGAINING, OIG  

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GENERATED A MEMORANDUM TO THE 

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SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL  

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IDENTIFYING POTENTIALLY  

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PROBLEMATIC PROVISIONS IN THE  

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AGREEMENT THAT UNPACKED  

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ACCOUNTABILITY. THAT MEMO WAS  

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INTENDED TO HIGHLIGHT AREAS OF  

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FOCUS FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF  

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BARGAINING EFFORTS TO  

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STRENGTHEN AND ACTUALIZE  

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ACCOUNTABILITY REFORMS ENACTED  

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BY THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL IN 

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2017. PRIMARY AREAS OF CONCERN  

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AT THE TIME INCLUDED ENSURING  

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MEASURES THAT PROVIDE  

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TRANSPARENCY , ENHANCED  

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COMMUNITY TRUST AND SOLIDIFIED  

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AUTHORITY AND SUSTAINABILITY  

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FOR THE ACCOUNTABILITY  

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ENTITIES. SPECIFICALLY SUBPOENA 

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POWER, QUANTUM OF PROOF ON  

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APPEAL, THE 180 DAY TIMELINE,  

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ARBITRATION REFORM AND   

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AUTHORITY IN CRIMINAL CASES  

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WERE IDENTIFIED AS PRIMARY  

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AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.  

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ADDITIONALLY, INCREASED  

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TRANSPARENCY IN THE BARGAINING  

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PROCESS WAS ALSO CALLED OUT FOR 

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REFORM. SINCE THAT TIME, THE  

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CURRENT CBA WAS NEGOTIATED,  

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RESULTING IN SUBSTANTIAL  

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STRIDES THAT ADDRESSED SPECIFIC 

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CONCERNS RAISED BY OIG AND  

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OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.  

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IMPROVEMENTS IN GAINS THAT  

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DIRECTLY BENEFIT ACCOUNTABILITY 

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EFFORTS IN THE CURRENT CBA  

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INCLUDE ADDITIONS TO ARTICLE 15 

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THAT CLEARLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND  

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ADOPT THE PHILOSOPHY AND  

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PURPOSE THAT UNDERPINS THE  

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ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE,  

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INCLUDING PRIORITIZING  

446
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COMMUNITY TRUST AND  

447
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TRANSPARENCY AND RECOGNIZING  

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THE ROLE OF PROPER  POLICE  

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LEGITIMACY, CLEARLY  

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ACKNOWLEDGING PREPONDERANCE OF  

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EVIDENCE AS THE STANDARD FOR  

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APPEAL AND REFUTING REVIEW WITH 

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DEFERENCE TO DECISIONS OF THE  

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CHIEF. PROVIDING THE  

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DISCIPLINE, REVIEW HEARINGS  

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WILL BE MADE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE 

457
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WHILE PRESERVING RIGHTS AND  

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ADDRESSING A LOOPHOLE FOR  

459
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CRIMES COMMITTED IN  

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JURISDICTIONS AND ALLOWING 

461
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STAFF  TO MONITOR MEMBERS AND  

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CLARIFY PROCESSES FOR MEDIATION 

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AND RAPID ADJUDICATION.  

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BARGAINING PARAMETERS INCLUDE  

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RECORDS RETENTION, CONFORMANCE  

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WITH STATE LAW AND ADDRESSING  

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POTENTIALLY-CONCERNING ISSUES  

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IN ARTICLE 16. OVERALL,  THIS  

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PROVIDES MEANINGFUL OVERSIGHT 

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OF THE SEATTLE POLICE  

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DEPARTMENT AND INCREASES  

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ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY 

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TO THE COMMUNITY. ADDRESSING  

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THESE REMAINING RECOMMENDATIONS 

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 IN FUTURE AGREEMENTS WILL  

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FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE  

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ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM  

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ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY IN  

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2017. THE OIG LOOKS FORWARD TO  

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HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC  

481
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TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING  

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US.  

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH, DEPUTY 

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DIRECTOR SCOTT. LASTLY WE HAVE  

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OPA, OFFICE OF POLICE  

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ACCOUNTABILITY, REPRESENTED BY  

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 JUSTIN.  

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE 

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OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE  

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BARGAINING PROCESS TONIGHT, AND 

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WE HOPE THAT THIS ALSO BRINGS  

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US CLOSER TO THE ACCOUNTABILITY 

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ORDINANCE.  THIS ALSO ALLOWS US 

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TO DO OUR JOBS AND REMOVE SOME 

495
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OF THE PROCEDURAL ISSUES. THAT  

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SAID, IT HAS ONLY BEEN IN PLACE 

497
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FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, SO WE 

498
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HAVE LIMITED EXPERIENCE  

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OPERATING UNDER THAT AGREEMENT  

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.  ROUGHLY LESS THAN 4% OF OUR  

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CASES ACTUALLY FALL UNDER THE  

502
00:20:00,399 --> 00:20:01,533
SPMA AGREEMENT. MOST OF THEM  

503
00:20:01,533 --> 00:20:05,137
DEFAULT TO THE SPOG AGREEMENT , 

504
00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:06,138
BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE MULTIPLE 

505
00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:12,878
OFFICERS INVOLVED. SO THAT  

506
00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:13,946
SAID, THE SPMA AGREEMENT MIGHT  

507
00:20:13,946 --> 00:20:15,814
BE USED AS A BIT OF A MODEL FOR 

508
00:20:15,814 --> 00:20:17,683
SPOG NEGOTIATIONS , WE HOPE.  

509
00:20:17,683 --> 00:20:20,452
THAT IS PART OF OUR HOPE. SO  

510
00:20:20,452 --> 00:20:24,289
WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE  

511
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:24,890
PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN 

512
00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:26,592
HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC  

513
00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:32,030
TONIGHT, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY  

514
00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:33,065
ARE THERE PROVISIONS YOU HAVE  

515
00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:34,266
PROBLEMS WITH IN THE CURRENT  

516
00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:35,334
AGREEMENT? ARE THERE ONES YOU  

517
00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:37,536
WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, AND  

518
00:20:37,536 --> 00:20:38,837
WHY? I VIEW THIS AS KIND OF  

519
00:20:38,837 --> 00:20:44,142
LIKE A BOOK CLUB IN THE SENSE  

520
00:20:44,142 --> 00:20:45,444
THAT WE ARE ALL KIND OF TALKING 

521
00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:47,479
ABOUT THE SAME BOOK TONIGHT, WE 

522
00:20:47,479 --> 00:20:49,047
HOPE. SO WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE 

523
00:20:49,047 --> 00:20:50,048
HERE TO LISTEN. THANK YOU.  

524
00:20:50,048 --> 00:20:51,216
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH. I  

525
00:20:51,216 --> 00:20:55,387
UNDERSTAND THAT WE MAY BE  

526
00:20:55,387 --> 00:20:57,956
GETTING ADDITIONAL COMMENTS  

527
00:20:57,956 --> 00:20:59,391
AFTER THIS MEETING FROM EACH OF 

528
00:20:59,391 --> 00:21:02,594
THE THREE BODIES. IN THE PAST  

529
00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:06,632
WE HAVE MEMORIALIZED WHAT WE  

530
00:21:06,632 --> 00:21:08,100
HAVE HEARD IN THE FORM OF A  

531
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:12,704
COUNCIL RESOLUTION. WE DO  

532
00:21:12,704 --> 00:21:14,072
RECOGNIZE THAT I THINK MUCH OF  

533
00:21:14,072 --> 00:21:16,308
THE FOCUS IS ABOUT RETAINING  

534
00:21:16,308 --> 00:21:17,542
THE GAINS OF THE LAST CONTRACT, 

535
00:21:17,542 --> 00:21:24,182
SO WE WILL, BASED ON OUR 

536
00:21:24,182 --> 00:21:25,884
ANALYSIS  OF THE FEEDBACK THAT  

537
00:21:25,884 --> 00:21:27,119
WE ARE GETTING NOW, WE WILL  

538
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,220
HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT  

539
00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:29,187
WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO  

540
00:21:29,187 --> 00:21:30,188
MEMORIALIZE THE INPUT THAT WE  

541
00:21:30,188 --> 00:21:32,190
ARE RECEIVING IN THE FORM OF A  

542
00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:33,058
COUNCIL RESOLUTION. SO NOW  

543
00:21:33,058 --> 00:21:37,429
MOVING BACK UP TO THE THE  

544
00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:43,368
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE GENERAL  

545
00:21:43,368 --> 00:21:46,371
PUBLIC, JUST  GIVING THE RULES  

546
00:21:46,371 --> 00:21:47,272
FOR THAT PROCESS, EACH SPEAKER 

547
00:21:47,272 --> 00:21:48,540
IS GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.  

548
00:21:48,540 --> 00:21:50,742
I WILL ALTERNATE BETWEEN  

549
00:21:50,742 --> 00:21:51,677
VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON PUBLIC  

550
00:21:51,677 --> 00:21:53,078
COMMENTERS AND I WILL CALL ON  

551
00:21:53,078 --> 00:21:55,080
EACH SPEAKER BY NAME AND IN THE 

552
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,181
ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED 

553
00:21:56,181 --> 00:21:58,984
ON THE COUNCIL WEBSITE AND SIGN 

554
00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:00,152
IN FORM. IF YOU HAVE NOT  

555
00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,353
REGISTERED YET TO SPEAK BUT YOU 

556
00:22:01,353 --> 00:22:11,897
WANT TO DO SO,  YOU CAN STILL  

557
00:22:12,698 --> 00:22:13,932
DO SO BEFORE THE END OF THE 

558
00:22:13,932 --> 00:22:15,000
PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. WHEN I  

559
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,134
CALL A SPEAKER'S NAME IF YOU  

560
00:22:16,134 --> 00:22:17,369
ARE USING THE VIRTUAL ITEM, WE  

561
00:22:17,369 --> 00:22:18,770
ASK THAT YOU LISTEN FOR THE  

562
00:22:18,770 --> 00:22:19,938
PROMPT, AND ONCE YOU HAVE HEARD 

563
00:22:19,938 --> 00:22:21,139
THE PROMPT, WE ASK THAT YOU  

564
00:22:21,139 --> 00:22:22,074
PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE  

565
00:22:22,074 --> 00:22:23,108
YOURSELF. PLEASE SPEAK -- BEGIN 

566
00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:24,176
SPEAKING BY STATING YOUR NAME  

567
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:25,310
AND THE ITEM WHICH YOU ARE  

568
00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:26,144
ADDRESSING. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR  

569
00:22:26,144 --> 00:22:27,512
A CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE  

570
00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:29,247
LEFT OF THE ALLOTTE TIME. ONCE  

571
00:22:29,247 --> 00:22:30,415
THE SPEAKER HERE'S THE CHIME WE 

572
00:22:30,415 --> 00:22:34,119
ASK THAT YOU BEGIN TO WRAP UP  

573
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,354
YOUR COMMENTS. WHEN SPEAKERS DO 

574
00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:36,321
NOT END THERE COMMENTS THEY  

575
00:22:36,321 --> 00:22:37,055
WILL HAVE TIME PROVIDED,  

576
00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:37,656
UNFORTUNATELY. THE SPEAKER 

577
00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:38,690
MICROPHONE IS MUTED AFTER 10  

578
00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:42,994
SECONDS TO ALLOW US TO HEAR  

579
00:22:42,994 --> 00:22:44,363
FROM THE NEXT SPEAKER. WE HAVE  

580
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,430
12 SPEAKERS SIGNED IN AND EIGHT 

581
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:51,169
PEOPLE IN PERSON FOR SPEAKING  

582
00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:53,772
VIRTUALLY. I WILL START WITH  

583
00:22:53,772 --> 00:22:56,141
THE -- EXCELLENT! START WITH  

584
00:22:56,141 --> 00:23:02,781
THE IN PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS,  

585
00:23:02,781 --> 00:23:04,149
 AND PRESENTERS, YOU ARE  

586
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:04,950
WELCOME TO CONTINUE SITTING 

587
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:10,422
THERE OR YOU CAN [ LAUGHTER ]  

588
00:23:10,422 --> 00:23:11,590
YOU CANNOT! WHATEVER YOU ARE  

589
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:12,624
MOST COMFORTABLE DOING. WE WILL 

590
00:23:12,624 --> 00:23:15,794
START WITH KATHLEEN FOLLOWED BY 

591
00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:16,194
AMY SUMMERS.  

592
00:23:16,194 --> 00:23:20,132
&gt;&gt; GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS  

593
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:21,333
KATHLEEN BURROWS AND I AM A 

594
00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:23,068
RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN BALLARD. I 

595
00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:27,405
LIVE ACROSS FROM THE NIAGARA  

596
00:23:27,405 --> 00:23:32,577
EARNERS HOUSE, WHICH IS  

597
00:23:32,577 --> 00:23:35,413
TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. I SUPPORT 

598
00:23:35,413 --> 00:23:38,884
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT . 

599
00:23:38,884 --> 00:23:44,723
DEFUNDING THE POLICE WAS, IN MY 

600
00:23:44,723 --> 00:23:46,358
BOOK , A COLOSSAL FAILURE. I  

601
00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:47,793
WANT TO SEE -- I WANT TO KEEP  

602
00:23:47,793 --> 00:23:49,194
THE POLICE WE HAVE AND I WANT 

603
00:23:49,194 --> 00:23:55,200
TO SEE MORE POLICE ON THE 

604
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,102
STREETS.  I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE 

605
00:23:57,102 --> 00:23:58,136
SEE SOMEBODY WALKING THE BEAT  

606
00:23:58,136 --> 00:23:59,271
IN DOWNTOWN BALLARD. I AM TIRED 

607
00:23:59,271 --> 00:24:02,808
OF SEEING BROKEN WINDOWS AND  

608
00:24:02,808 --> 00:24:03,675
GRAFFITI, AND MAYBE SOMETHING  

609
00:24:03,675 --> 00:24:04,676
LIKE THE NAVIGATION TEAM. I  

610
00:24:04,676 --> 00:24:05,944
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT RETURN.  

611
00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:09,381
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  

612
00:24:09,381 --> 00:24:10,682
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. I WOULD REQUEST  

613
00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:14,553
THAT PEOPLE SPEAK TO THE TOPIC  

614
00:24:14,553 --> 00:24:15,520
OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS  

615
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,655
EVENING, WHICH IS THE INPUT  

616
00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:21,159
THAT THE PUBLIC IS GIVING TO  

617
00:24:21,159 --> 00:24:21,893
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE 

618
00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:22,828
INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATING THE  

619
00:24:22,828 --> 00:24:23,528
CONTRACT WITH THE SEATTLE  

620
00:24:23,528 --> 00:24:25,964
POLICE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION.  

621
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:27,332
IN MY PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE I 

622
00:24:27,332 --> 00:24:28,233
DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO  

623
00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:32,204
ADDRESS OTHER, BROADER AND MORE 

624
00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:33,338
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, BUT FOR  

625
00:24:33,338 --> 00:24:34,539
THE PURPOSE OF THIS HEARING IT  

626
00:24:34,539 --> 00:24:35,307
IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR  

627
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,875
THE TOPIC OF THE PUBLIC  

628
00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:37,809
HEARING, WHICH IS THE CONTRACT  

629
00:24:37,809 --> 00:24:39,211
WITH SPMA. THANK YOU! OUR NEXT  

630
00:24:39,211 --> 00:24:42,047
SPEAKER IS AMY SUMMERS, AND ANY 

631
00:24:42,047 --> 00:24:47,686
WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CAROLYN 

632
00:24:47,686 --> 00:24:48,487
MALONE.   

633
00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:49,688
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.  

634
00:24:49,688 --> 00:24:51,756
MY NAME IS AMY SUMMERS AND I AM 

635
00:24:51,756 --> 00:24:56,027
A MEMBER OF PROACTIVE  

636
00:24:56,027 --> 00:24:56,761
PERSISTENT PEOPLE FOR PROGRESS, 

637
00:24:56,761 --> 00:25:01,700
WHICH IS A CITIZENS'  

638
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:02,634
ORGANIZATION. WE ARE HERE  

639
00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:03,602
BECAUSE WE ARE VERY CONCERNED  

640
00:25:03,602 --> 00:25:07,339
ABOUT THE IMPERATIVE THAT THE  

641
00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:08,006
2017 ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE 

642
00:25:08,006 --> 00:25:08,673
BE FULLY INCORPORATED INTO THE 

643
00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:09,374
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT 

644
00:25:09,374 --> 00:25:18,617
WITH SPMA . WE THINK THAT THE   

645
00:25:18,617 --> 00:25:19,818
CURRENT FORM OF THE AGREEMENT,  

646
00:25:19,818 --> 00:25:20,952
WHILE OTHERS HAVE NOTED THAT IT 

647
00:25:20,952 --> 00:25:21,920
IS AN IMPROVEMENT, THERE ARE  

648
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,255
STILL PROVISIONS AND GAPS. THE  

649
00:25:23,255 --> 00:25:23,922
REPRESENTATIVE IS ASKED FOR  

650
00:25:23,922 --> 00:25:25,123
COMMENTS ON THEM. I WILL JUST  

651
00:25:25,123 --> 00:25:28,860
DRAW SEVERAL TO THE COUNCIL  

652
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:29,728
ATTENTION. SECTION 12.2 NOTES  

653
00:25:29,728 --> 00:25:34,399
THAT EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY ARE  

654
00:25:34,399 --> 00:25:35,333
GOVERNED BY APPLICABLE CITY  

655
00:25:35,333 --> 00:25:36,067
ORDINANCES AND SAID THAT  

656
00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:36,768
ORDINANCES ARE PARAMOUNT, 

657
00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:37,836
EXCEPT WHERE THEY CONFLICT WITH 

658
00:25:37,836 --> 00:25:45,577
THE EXPRESS PROVISIONS   

659
00:25:45,577 --> 00:25:46,811
AGREEMENT. 16.6 REFERS TO THE  

660
00:25:46,811 --> 00:25:47,913
BILL OF RIGHTS AND SPELLS OUT  

661
00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:48,880
THE MINIMUM RIGHTS OF AN 

662
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,382
OFFICER BUT THEN IT GOES ON TO 

663
00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:51,583
STATE THAT WHERE THE LANGUAGE  

664
00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:53,018
OF THE CONTRACT OR PASS  

665
00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:53,885
PRACTICES GRANT THE OFFICER  

666
00:25:53,885 --> 00:25:56,922
GREATER RIGHTS, THOSE GREATER  

667
00:25:56,922 --> 00:26:01,860
RIGHTS SHALL RETAIN. THAT, TO  

668
00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:02,794
OUR COMMUNITY, SEEMS LIKE  

669
00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:03,628
OPENING UP TERRIBLE POTENTIAL  

670
00:26:03,628 --> 00:26:04,763
FOR GOING BACK RATHER THAN  

671
00:26:04,763 --> 00:26:10,936
FORWARD. A THIRD PROVISION   

672
00:26:10,936 --> 00:26:12,203
REFERS TO THE RESULTS OF THE  

673
00:26:12,203 --> 00:26:14,806
BARGAINING ON THE  

674
00:26:14,806 --> 00:26:15,373
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE  

675
00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:20,178
BETWEEN THE PARTIES IN  

676
00:26:20,178 --> 00:26:21,212
ACCORDANCE WITH THIS. THE CITY 

677
00:26:21,212 --> 00:26:26,918
MAY, NO IT DOES NOT SAY MUST,  

678
00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:27,686
MAY IMPLEMENT THE  

679
00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:28,353
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE. THE  

680
00:26:28,353 --> 00:26:29,120
ASSOCIATION RETAINS THE RIGHT  

681
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:32,824
TO BARGAIN ANY UNFORESEEN  

682
00:26:32,824 --> 00:26:33,558
EFFECTS OF RISING  

683
00:26:33,558 --> 00:26:34,092
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE  

684
00:26:34,092 --> 00:26:34,793
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE. THAT  

685
00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:39,230
IS VERY TROUBLING TO US. WE  

686
00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:40,565
URGE THE COUNCIL AND AS PMA TO  

687
00:26:40,565 --> 00:26:41,232
FINALIZE UNEQUIVOCAL LANGUAGE  

688
00:26:41,232 --> 00:26:42,167
SAYING THAT OFFICERS ARE  

689
00:26:42,167 --> 00:26:49,007
SUBJECT TO THE 2017 ORDINANCE.  

690
00:26:49,007 --> 00:26:55,947
THANK YOU.   

691
00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:57,282
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER  

692
00:26:57,282 --> 00:26:58,016
WILL BE CAROLYN MALONE,  

693
00:26:58,016 --> 00:27:04,789
FOLLOWED BY TODD SNARR.  

694
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:05,991
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. MY NAME IS  

695
00:27:05,991 --> 00:27:10,562
CAROLYN MALONE, AND I, ALONG  

696
00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:11,529
WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, WOULD LIKE 

697
00:27:11,529 --> 00:27:12,897
TO KNOW WHO THESE FAKE POLICE  

698
00:27:12,897 --> 00:27:13,865
OFFICERS WERE WHO WENT TO  

699
00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:14,966
WASHINGTON, D.C. NOT TO SERVE  

700
00:27:14,966 --> 00:27:16,034
AND PROTECT, BUT TO DESTROY.  

701
00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:17,369
WHY DON'T WE LET THE PUBLIC  

702
00:27:17,369 --> 00:27:21,673
KNOW WHO THESE OFFICERS ARE? MY 

703
00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:22,741
PARTICULAR TOPIC, ONE OF MANY 

704
00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:25,543
TO TALK ABOUT, IS POLICE  

705
00:27:25,543 --> 00:27:26,644
PRESENCE IN MY BUILDING. THEY  

706
00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:28,013
HAVE NO RIGHT TO MAINTAIN  

707
00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:32,283
SURVEILLANCE ON ME BECAUSE I AM 

708
00:27:32,283 --> 00:27:33,785
A MILDLY BLACK WOMAN WHO STANDS 

709
00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:37,789
UP FOR HER RIGHTS. EACH TIME I  

710
00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:43,294
CONTACT AN AGENCY TO GET THEM  

711
00:27:43,294 --> 00:27:44,396
TO STOP POLICE HARASSMENT OR  

712
00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:48,433
REMOVE THEM FROM MY BUILDING  

713
00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:50,435
AND ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE, I AM  

714
00:27:50,435 --> 00:27:53,204
THWARTED, HARASSED, INTERFERED  

715
00:27:53,204 --> 00:27:54,105
WITH. POLICE HARASSMENT BEGAN  

716
00:27:54,105 --> 00:28:01,613
AGAINST ME WHEN MY DRIVERS 

717
00:28:01,613 --> 00:28:03,715
LICENSE  OF 55 YEARS WAS  

718
00:28:03,715 --> 00:28:04,482
TERMINATED WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. 

719
00:28:04,482 --> 00:28:07,685
MY CAR A YEAR LATER WITH ENGINE 

720
00:28:07,685 --> 00:28:13,291
DAMAGE. A LAWSUIT. JUDGE MARSHA 

721
00:28:13,291 --> 00:28:15,460
WAS ASSIGNED TO ME AND  

722
00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:17,862
MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEARED. EACH  

723
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:21,900
TIME I WOULD FIGHT, CONTINUE TO 

724
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,702
GO AFTER POLICE TO STOP THE  

725
00:28:24,702 --> 00:28:26,538
HARASSMENT, RETALIATION,  

726
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:30,742
INTIMIDATION. I AM HARASSED  

727
00:28:30,742 --> 00:28:32,143
EVEN MORE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO  

728
00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:33,344
KNOW WHO THESE SUPPOSEDLY  

729
00:28:33,344 --> 00:28:38,116
LAW-ABIDING PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO 

730
00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:40,285
WENT TO WASHINGTON, D.C. TO DO  

731
00:28:40,285 --> 00:28:43,154
EXACTLY OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY  

732
00:28:43,154 --> 00:28:46,424
TOOK AN OATH TO DO. I WOULD  

733
00:28:46,424 --> 00:28:48,426
ALSO LIKE INTERVENTION FROM THE 

734
00:28:48,426 --> 00:28:53,965
APPROPRIATE AGENCY TO STOP  

735
00:28:53,965 --> 00:28:56,034
POLICE HARASSMENT, RETALIATION  

736
00:28:56,034 --> 00:28:57,936
AND REMOVAL FROM MY BUILDING  

737
00:28:57,936 --> 00:29:03,041
WITH THEIR ILLEGAL AUDIO/VIDEO  

738
00:29:03,041 --> 00:29:07,779
IN MY UNIT. POLICE HARASSMENT  

739
00:29:07,779 --> 00:29:09,080
MUST STOP AGAINST PEOPLE WHO  

740
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,485
SPEAK OUT! JOSEPH CLAIMS TO BE  

741
00:29:13,485 --> 00:29:18,156
A SOCIAL WORKER AT CHANCERY  

742
00:29:18,156 --> 00:29:19,057
PLACE APARTMENTS. I CHALLENGE  

743
00:29:19,057 --> 00:29:23,661
THAT! THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I  

744
00:29:23,661 --> 00:29:24,996
DO BELIEVE, HAS NO SOCIAL  

745
00:29:24,996 --> 00:29:26,164
WORKERS. THANK YOU.  

746
00:29:26,164 --> 00:29:27,966
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER  

747
00:29:27,966 --> 00:29:31,736
IS TODD SNARR, WHO WILL BE  

748
00:29:31,736 --> 00:29:38,143
FOLLOWED BY HOWARD GALE.   

749
00:29:38,143 --> 00:29:39,444
&gt;&gt; REAL QUICK BEFORE I GET  

750
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:40,778
STARTED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF 

751
00:29:40,778 --> 00:29:45,250
WHAT YOU MENTIONED ON THE  

752
00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:46,384
RULES. COULD YOU KIND OF  

753
00:29:46,384 --> 00:29:47,619
EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE  

754
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:48,953
TO ME ON THE RULES ABOUT OUR  

755
00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:49,254
COMMENTS?  

756
00:29:49,254 --> 00:29:50,622
&gt;&gt; SURE. THIS IS A PUBLIC  

757
00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:51,789
HEARING TO GIVE THE CITY INPUT  

758
00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:56,427
TO THE NEXT SEATTLE POLICE  

759
00:29:56,427 --> 00:29:56,961
MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION  

760
00:29:56,961 --> 00:29:57,829
CONTRACT. WE ASK THAT PEOPLE  

761
00:29:57,829 --> 00:30:01,533
DIRECT THEIR COMMENT IN THE  

762
00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:02,300
PUBLIC HEARING TOWARDS THE 

763
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:06,004
ELEMENTS OF THE CONTRACT THAT  

764
00:30:06,004 --> 00:30:07,438
YOU FEEL THE CITY NEEDS TO WORK 

765
00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:09,207
ON ADDRESSING.  

766
00:30:09,207 --> 00:30:12,076
&gt;&gt; DIRECTLY WITH THE CONTRACT?  

767
00:30:12,076 --> 00:30:12,210
 

768
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:12,577
&gt;&gt; CORRECT.  

769
00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:14,879
&gt;&gt; I AM HOPING THAT I COULD  

770
00:30:14,879 --> 00:30:16,147
HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE MY  

771
00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:19,751
THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS. IF YOU  

772
00:30:19,751 --> 00:30:21,986
COULD JUST ALLOW ME THAT TWO  

773
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:22,287
MINUTES?  

774
00:30:22,287 --> 00:30:22,620
&gt;&gt; SURE.  

775
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:32,096
&gt;&gt; MY NAME IS TODD SNARR.  I  

776
00:30:32,096 --> 00:30:33,464
SPENT TIME IN THE U.S. NAVY AND 

777
00:30:33,464 --> 00:30:36,467
AS A RESOLUTIONS REP WITH IRS.  

778
00:30:36,467 --> 00:30:38,069
SINCE 2010 I AM THE OWNER OF MY 

779
00:30:38,069 --> 00:30:41,072
OWN ACCOUNTING BUSINESS. I DO  

780
00:30:41,072 --> 00:30:42,273
NOT LIVE HERE. I AM IN 

781
00:30:42,273 --> 00:30:43,408
WASHINGTON STATE. I HAVE LIVED  

782
00:30:43,408 --> 00:30:46,845
OVER IN CLARKSTON,  WASHINGTON  

783
00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,346
. I DO HAVE CLIENTS THAT LIVE  

784
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:53,818
OVER HERE. I HAVE OBSERVED ALL  

785
00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:54,652
THE INFORMATION THAT TRANSPIRES 

786
00:30:54,652 --> 00:30:55,887
HERE IN SEATTLE. WHEN IT COMES  

787
00:30:55,887 --> 00:30:56,888
TO PUBLIC SAFETY, WHAT THAT  

788
00:30:56,888 --> 00:30:59,324
MEANS TO ME IS LAW AND ORDER.   

789
00:30:59,324 --> 00:31:00,692
WE MUST HAVE LAW AND ORDER.  

790
00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:02,126
YES, THERE NEEDS TO BE  

791
00:31:02,126 --> 00:31:03,628
ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY  

792
00:31:03,628 --> 00:31:09,434
WITH EVERYBODY. NOT JUST POLICE 

793
00:31:09,434 --> 00:31:16,841
OFFICERS. 

794
00:32:01,686 --> 00:32:02,820
AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK  

795
00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:04,656
FOR THAT OWNER ARE PROBABLY OUT 

796
00:32:04,656 --> 00:32:06,958
OF A JOB FOR HAVING TO REBUILD  

797
00:32:06,958 --> 00:32:08,459
THEIR STORE WHEN THEY SHUT IT  

798
00:32:08,459 --> 00:32:11,095
DOWN. ANYWAYS, PLEASE BRING  

799
00:32:11,095 --> 00:32:16,434
BACK THE POLICE FORCE. IF A  

800
00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:17,335
POLICE OFFICER VIOLATES THEIR  

801
00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:20,138
OATH, THEY MUST BE HELD  

802
00:32:20,138 --> 00:32:21,039
ACCOUNTABLE. BUT MOST POLICE  

803
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:21,906
OFFICERS ARE GOOD CITIZENS LIKE 

804
00:32:21,906 --> 00:32:25,443
ANYBODY ELSE. THANK YOU!  

805
00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:26,744
&gt;&gt; THE NEXT SPEAKER IS HOWARD  

806
00:32:26,744 --> 00:32:27,879
GALE AND HOWARD WILL BE  

807
00:32:27,879 --> 00:32:38,289
FOLLOWED BY VALERIE .  

808
00:32:40,358 --> 00:32:41,259
&gt;&gt; OVER THREE YEARS AFTER THE  

809
00:32:41,259 --> 00:32:42,560
POLICE RIOTS OF 2020, THE CITY  

810
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,861
STILL PLANS TO NEGOTIATE A NEW  

811
00:32:43,861 --> 00:32:44,962
CONTRACT WITH SPMA AS THEY ARE  

812
00:32:44,962 --> 00:32:50,435
WITH  SPOG WITH THE MAXIMAL  

813
00:32:50,435 --> 00:32:51,502
DEMANDS , THE MAXIMAL DEMANDS  

814
00:32:51,502 --> 00:32:52,804
STILL BASED ON THE FAILED 2017  

815
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:54,939
LEGISLATION. THAT IS WHY  

816
00:32:54,939 --> 00:32:55,907
TODAY'S HEARING IS PURELY  

817
00:32:55,907 --> 00:33:02,046
PERFORMATIVE AND POINTLESS , AS 

818
00:33:02,046 --> 00:33:03,247
INDICATED BY THE TOTAL LACK OF  

819
00:33:03,247 --> 00:33:04,215
PARTICIPATION. WE MIGHT HAVE 10 

820
00:33:04,215 --> 00:33:07,385
PEOPLE SPEAKING TODAY. WE KNOW  

821
00:33:07,385 --> 00:33:08,386
THAT THIS IS POINTLESS BECAUSE 

822
00:33:08,386 --> 00:33:13,124
COMMUNITY INPUT WAS SOUGHT IN  

823
00:33:13,124 --> 00:33:14,258
2021 WITH THE CLEAREST DEMAND  

824
00:33:14,258 --> 00:33:15,126
BEING THE POLICE STOP  

825
00:33:15,126 --> 00:33:15,727
INVESTIGATING THEIR FELLOW  

826
00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:18,129
OFFICERS. THIS WAS IMMEDIATELY  

827
00:33:18,129 --> 00:33:24,168
REJECTED, AND INSTEAD THE CPC  

828
00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:26,938
FORWARDED RECOMMENDATIONS  AS  

829
00:33:26,938 --> 00:33:28,172
IN THE 2017 ORDINANCE TO  

830
00:33:28,172 --> 00:33:28,840
MAINTAIN POLICE INVESTIGATING  

831
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,607
POLICE, A SYSTEM THAT WAS  

832
00:33:29,607 --> 00:33:30,808
ENTIRELY REJECTED BY THE STATE  

833
00:33:30,808 --> 00:33:31,642
LEGISLATURE IN 2021 WHEN THEY  

834
00:33:31,642 --> 00:33:37,281
SET UP THE OFFICE OF 

835
00:33:37,281 --> 00:33:39,517
INVESTIGATIONS.  IT IS ALSO A  

836
00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:40,451
SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN TOTALLY  

837
00:33:40,451 --> 00:33:41,819
REJECTED BY EVERY CITY THAT HAS 

838
00:33:41,819 --> 00:33:42,653
PUT FORTH POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY 

839
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:48,292
SINCE GEORGE FORD. MOST NOTABLE 

840
00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:49,427
IN CITY DEMANDS, THEY WILL  

841
00:33:49,427 --> 00:33:50,128
STILL ALLOW POLICE TO  

842
00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:51,095
INVESTIGATE POLICE, STILL ALLOW 

843
00:33:51,095 --> 00:33:51,996
FOR ARBITRATION AND STILL ALLOW 

844
00:33:51,996 --> 00:33:53,131
THE POLICE CHIEF TO SUMMARILY  

845
00:33:53,131 --> 00:33:54,031
OVERRULE ALL DISCIPLINE. THE  

846
00:33:54,031 --> 00:33:55,099
BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WHERE  

847
00:33:55,099 --> 00:34:00,805
DOZENS OF U.S. CITIES HAVE  

848
00:34:00,805 --> 00:34:01,706
LEARNED FROM SUMMER 2020,  

849
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:02,640
SEATTLE REMAINS STUCK IN THE 

850
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,841
FAILED EXPERIMENT 2017. LET ME  

851
00:34:03,841 --> 00:34:11,182
POINT OUT THAT  NO MATTER , IF  

852
00:34:11,182 --> 00:34:12,116
EVERY ASPECT OF THE 2017  

853
00:34:12,116 --> 00:34:13,317
ORDINANCE WAS IMPLEMENT IT, WE  

854
00:34:13,317 --> 00:34:14,185
STILL WOULD'VE HAD THE SUMMER  

855
00:34:14,185 --> 00:34:15,219
OF 2020 AND THE REPEATED  

856
00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:16,154
KILLINGS EVERY YEAR OF SOMEONE  

857
00:34:16,154 --> 00:34:17,522
IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. WHY? 

858
00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:18,523
BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE POLICE 

859
00:34:18,523 --> 00:34:23,294
INVESTIGATING POLICE, AND IN  

860
00:34:23,294 --> 00:34:24,695
THE RARE INSTANCE WHERE THEY DO 

861
00:34:24,695 --> 00:34:25,696
A HALFWAY REASONABLE JOB, THAT  

862
00:34:25,696 --> 00:34:26,697
IS THEN OVERTURNED BY THE  

863
00:34:26,697 --> 00:34:28,099
POLICE CHIEF. THIS HAS TO STOP. 

864
00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:29,233
WE HAVE TO HAVE POLICE  

865
00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:32,570
ACCOUNTABILITY WITHOUT THE  

866
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:33,671
INTERFERENCE OF GROUPS LIKE THE 

867
00:34:33,671 --> 00:34:38,242
CPC, OPA AND OIG. THANK YOU.  

868
00:34:38,242 --> 00:34:39,410
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. BEFORE WE HEAR  

869
00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:41,679
FROM OUR NEXT SPEAKER, MR.  

870
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:41,946
CLARK?  

871
00:34:41,946 --> 00:34:43,014
&gt;&gt; TECHNICAL ISSUE APPEARS TO  

872
00:34:43,014 --> 00:34:47,218
HAVE BEEN FIXED.  

873
00:34:47,218 --> 00:34:48,619
&gt;&gt; OKAY, WE NEED TO RESTART THE 

874
00:34:48,619 --> 00:34:51,088
RECORDING HERE, SO -- SEATTLE  

875
00:34:51,088 --> 00:35:00,731
CHANNEL, ARE YOU OKAY?  WE ARE  

876
00:35:00,731 --> 00:35:01,899
GOING TO RESTART THE RECORDING  

877
00:35:01,899 --> 00:35:02,767
HERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT  

878
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:10,108
HAPPENED. STANDBY PLEASE.   

879
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:10,641
THANK YOU.  

880
00:35:10,641 --> 00:35:19,917
&gt;&gt; MY NAME IS VALERIE  

881
00:35:19,917 --> 00:35:21,419
CHLARETTE,  AND I HAVE TO SAY 

882
00:35:21,419 --> 00:35:22,653
THAT THE MORE THINGS CHANGE IN  

883
00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:27,091
SEATTLE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE 

884
00:35:27,091 --> 00:35:30,995
SAME. PEOPLE HAD EXPERIENCED  

885
00:35:30,995 --> 00:35:31,996
AGGRESSIVE RESPONSES TO THE  

886
00:35:31,996 --> 00:35:36,167
BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS.  

887
00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:44,575
WAS THERE ACCOUNTABILITY? NO.   

888
00:35:44,575 --> 00:35:45,910
DID THE POLICE CHANGE? NO. WE  

889
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:47,111
SAW THAT DURING THE RESPONSE TO 

890
00:35:47,111 --> 00:35:48,312
THE PROTESTS IN 2020. OVER THE  

891
00:35:48,312 --> 00:35:49,480
YEARS, AND THERE ARE MANY WAYS, 

892
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,748
THE PUBLIC HAS LET COUNCIL AND  

893
00:35:50,748 --> 00:35:51,415
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS KNOW  

894
00:35:51,415 --> 00:35:54,385
WHAT WE THINK OF  POLICING IN  

895
00:35:54,385 --> 00:35:55,686
SEATTLE AND THAT WE THINK OF  

896
00:35:55,686 --> 00:35:56,420
ACCOUNTABILITY AND WHAT WE  

897
00:35:56,420 --> 00:36:01,325
THINK OF REFORM UNDER THE  

898
00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:02,493
CONSENT DECREE. FOR PEOPLE WHO  

899
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:03,761
REALLY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON,  

900
00:36:03,761 --> 00:36:08,533
WE DO NOT THINK MUCH OF IT. IT  

901
00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:09,700
IS NOT IMPRESSIVE. THE PROCESS  

902
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:13,905
OF PUBLIC CONSULTATION IS ALSO  

903
00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:14,572
EXTREMELY UNIMPRESSIVE. IF  

904
00:36:14,572 --> 00:36:15,673
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WATCHING 

905
00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:16,774
THIS COULD SEE THE VERY SPARSE  

906
00:36:16,774 --> 00:36:18,042
TURNOUT IN THIS CHAMBER OF THE 

907
00:36:18,042 --> 00:36:24,181
PUBLIC TO DISCUSS SUCH AN 

908
00:36:24,181 --> 00:36:26,417
IMPORTANT  SUBJECT, THEY MIGHT  

909
00:36:26,417 --> 00:36:27,685
WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.  

910
00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:29,053
WHAT IS GOING ON IS THAT THIS  

911
00:36:29,053 --> 00:36:30,054
SO-CALLED PUBLIC HEARING WAS  

912
00:36:30,054 --> 00:36:30,922
ANNOUNCED ONLINE BY CITY  

913
00:36:30,922 --> 00:36:41,399
COUNCIL EIGHT DAYS AGO IN   

914
00:36:44,702 --> 00:36:45,403
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S BLOG  

915
00:36:45,403 --> 00:36:46,871
AND IN A TWITTER POST BY HER  

916
00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:47,905
FOUR DAYS AGO. IT REALLY DOES  

917
00:36:47,905 --> 00:36:48,906
NOT ALLOW ENOUGH TIME FOR  

918
00:36:48,906 --> 00:36:50,041
UNPAID MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC  

919
00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:51,375
WHO ARE ACTIVISTS,  WHO MAY  

920
00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:52,210
HAVE BEEN EGREGIOUSLY HARMED BY 

921
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:53,344
POLICING, TO PUT TOGETHER AN  

922
00:36:53,344 --> 00:36:54,245
IMPRESSIVE AND INFORMED SHOW A  

923
00:36:54,245 --> 00:36:57,315
PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I THINK THAT 

924
00:36:57,315 --> 00:36:58,549
WE CAN ASSUME THAT GOING INTO  

925
00:36:58,549 --> 00:37:06,023
THIS ROUND OF  AS PMA CONTRACT  

926
00:37:06,023 --> 00:37:06,791
NEGOTIATIONS, THE PUBLIC IS  

927
00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:12,463
REALLY NOT REPRESENTED. THIS IS 

928
00:37:12,463 --> 00:37:13,931
NOT  -- THIS REALLY IS NOT  

929
00:37:13,931 --> 00:37:15,299
SATISFACTORY AT ALL. IT IS A  

930
00:37:15,299 --> 00:37:15,766
SHAM. THANK YOU.  

931
00:37:15,766 --> 00:37:17,001
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER  

932
00:37:17,001 --> 00:37:18,302
IS ERIC SIMMONS AND ERIC WILL  

933
00:37:18,302 --> 00:37:19,670
BE FOLLOWED BY CARRIE KAPLAN.  

934
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:27,979
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU . TESTING,  

935
00:37:27,979 --> 00:37:29,246
TESTING, HELLO! MY NAME IS ERIC 

936
00:37:29,246 --> 00:37:30,715
SIMMONS. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON  

937
00:37:30,715 --> 00:37:31,549
THE JOB PERFORMANCE OF THE  

938
00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:37,188
POLICE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF 

939
00:37:37,188 --> 00:37:39,590
A  QUEER PERSON LIVING IN THE  

940
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:41,058
CITY. WE ALL AGREE THAT SPD ARE 

941
00:37:41,058 --> 00:37:42,093
CURRENTLY  INCAPABLE OF KEEPING 

942
00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:47,932
LAW AND ORDER. MANY PROPOSE  

943
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:48,699
THAT INCREASED FUNDING COULD  

944
00:37:48,699 --> 00:37:49,934
HELP, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING  

945
00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,369
THAT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN  

946
00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:53,137
REMEMBER AND IT HAS NOT WORKED. 

947
00:37:53,137 --> 00:37:54,271
DESPITE WHAT SOME MAY CLAIM,  

948
00:37:54,271 --> 00:37:55,339
THE POLICE ARE STILL VERY MUCH  

949
00:37:55,339 --> 00:38:00,444
FUNDED AND ARE FAR FROM  

950
00:38:00,444 --> 00:38:01,078
ANYTHING RESEMBLING GENUINE  

951
00:38:01,078 --> 00:38:01,912
DEFUNDING. CURRENTLY THE POLICE 

952
00:38:01,912 --> 00:38:03,314
BUDGET SITS AT JUST OVER ONE  

953
00:38:03,314 --> 00:38:04,482
FIFTH OF THE CITY BUDGET, SO  

954
00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:06,651
NOW IS THE TIME TO ASK, CAN WE  

955
00:38:06,651 --> 00:38:07,485
AFFORD THIS FAILING PROGRAM?  

956
00:38:07,485 --> 00:38:12,923
HAVE THEY EARNED OUR FUNDING  

957
00:38:12,923 --> 00:38:13,924
AND TRUST? WITH ABYSMAL  

958
00:38:13,924 --> 00:38:14,525
RESPONSE TIMES, CEASELESS 

959
00:38:14,525 --> 00:38:15,226
REPORTS OF POLICE MISCONDUCT  

960
00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:16,327
AND A POPULATION WITH ZERO  

961
00:38:16,327 --> 00:38:23,067
FAITH IN THE PROGRAM,  IT IS  

962
00:38:23,067 --> 00:38:24,235
TIME WE DEMAND THAT THE POLICE  

963
00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:25,269
ARE IN THEIR BUDGET AND  

964
00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:26,470
PRIVILEGES, WHICH STARTS WITH  

965
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:27,371
ASKING IF THEY EVEN DESERVE THE 

966
00:38:27,371 --> 00:38:33,277
IMMENSE 23% OF OUR TAX DOLLARS  

967
00:38:33,277 --> 00:38:34,345
THEY ALREADY HAVE. OUR CURRENT  

968
00:38:34,345 --> 00:38:35,579
POLICE FORCE IS TOO BIG A  

969
00:38:35,579 --> 00:38:36,914
LUXURY FOR A CITY WITH RAMPANT  

970
00:38:36,914 --> 00:38:38,249
POVERTY, AND IT IS TIME THAT WE 

971
00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:39,283
DEMAND THAT THE POLICE EITHER  

972
00:38:39,283 --> 00:38:40,484
USE THE MONEY AND POWER WE  

973
00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:42,687
ALREADY GAVE THEM MORE  

974
00:38:42,687 --> 00:38:43,754
RESPONSIBLY, OR WE GIVE OUR  

975
00:38:43,754 --> 00:38:44,822
MONEY IN TRUST TO MORE  

976
00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:45,389
EFFECTIVE AND COMPETENT  

977
00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:46,324
PROGRAMS, ONES WHICH WE  

978
00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:47,458
DESPERATELY NEED. THANK YOU.  

979
00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:48,693
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER  

980
00:38:48,693 --> 00:38:55,333
IS CARRIE KAPLAN.   

981
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:56,567
&gt;&gt; HELLO. I ACTUALLY CAME HERE  

982
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:57,768
TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR HOMELESS  

983
00:38:57,768 --> 00:39:02,673
BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BUT SINCE 

984
00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:03,974
WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT,  

985
00:39:03,974 --> 00:39:05,076
THAT'S FINE. I AM A  

986
00:39:05,076 --> 00:39:06,077
NEUROSCIENTIST AND I AM GOING 

987
00:39:06,077 --> 00:39:07,511
TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I THINK  

988
00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:08,746
ABOUT THE POLICE. I WOULD LOVE  

989
00:39:08,746 --> 00:39:09,980
TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE FORCE. I  

990
00:39:09,980 --> 00:39:11,382
WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT EVERYONE  

991
00:39:11,382 --> 00:39:13,784
IN OUR COMMUNITY. AS  

992
00:39:13,784 --> 00:39:14,618
NEUROSCIENTISTS, I THINK THAT  

993
00:39:14,618 --> 00:39:20,091
US ALL LEARNING AND THEM 

994
00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:21,225
HELPING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY 

995
00:39:21,225 --> 00:39:21,926
TO LEARN ABOUT BREATHING  

996
00:39:21,926 --> 00:39:24,261
EXERCISES TO HELP OUR BRAINS TO 

997
00:39:24,261 --> 00:39:26,630
FUNCTION BETTER AND TO HAVE  

998
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:27,698
BETTER RESPONSES WOULD BE AN  

999
00:39:27,698 --> 00:39:31,936
EASY, CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE WAY  

1000
00:39:31,936 --> 00:39:33,003
OF EVERYONE COMING TOGETHER IN  

1001
00:39:33,003 --> 00:39:33,971
OUR COMMUNITY. I REALLY LOOK 

1002
00:39:33,971 --> 00:39:38,175
FORWARD TO TRYING TO PROMOTE  

1003
00:39:38,175 --> 00:39:43,080
THAT AND MY DESIRE FOR PUBLIC  

1004
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,482
HEALTH TO BE BETTER. FROM WHAT  

1005
00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:50,187
I HAVE HEARD, PEOPLE WHO ARE  

1006
00:39:50,187 --> 00:39:51,122
NOT POLICE OFFICERS ANYMORE,  

1007
00:39:51,122 --> 00:39:52,256
THEY FEEL THAT EVERYBODY IN THE 

1008
00:39:52,256 --> 00:39:53,391
COMMUNITY HATES THEM, AND THEY  

1009
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:57,862
STILL WANT TO SERVE OUR  

1010
00:39:57,862 --> 00:39:58,963
COMMUNITY, AND IT SHOULD BE A  

1011
00:39:58,963 --> 00:39:59,730
WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY 

1012
00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:00,965
TO BE SUPPORTED BY OUR POLICE  

1013
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,333
AND FEEL LIKE THEY ARE A PART  

1014
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:03,601
OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE  

1015
00:40:03,601 --> 00:40:04,969
THERE TO HELP US. IT WOULD  

1016
00:40:04,969 --> 00:40:06,070
CAUSE LESS ANXIETY AND STRESS 

1017
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:07,037
AND MORE COMING TOGETHER AS  

1018
00:40:07,037 --> 00:40:14,145
HUMANS, AS ONE COLLECTIVE UNIT. 

1019
00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:16,447
 I HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT AWAY A  

1020
00:40:16,447 --> 00:40:17,148
LOT OF OUR ANTIQUATED  

1021
00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:17,882
PERSPECTIVES ABOUT OTHERS BEING 

1022
00:40:17,882 --> 00:40:21,685
BAD AND JUST COME TOGETHER AND  

1023
00:40:21,685 --> 00:40:23,954
THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. I 

1024
00:40:23,954 --> 00:40:31,562
AM HAPPY TO  ADVOCATE FOR THAT  

1025
00:40:31,562 --> 00:40:32,763
AND BE A RESOURCE FOR THAT.  

1026
00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:33,164
THANK YOU.  

1027
00:40:33,164 --> 00:40:36,867
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, AND THE POLICE  

1028
00:40:36,867 --> 00:40:37,735
CONTRACT DOES COVER OFFICER  

1029
00:40:37,735 --> 00:40:38,836
WELLNESS, SO YOUR COMMENTS ARE  

1030
00:40:38,836 --> 00:40:39,236
WELL-RECEIVED.  

1031
00:40:39,236 --> 00:40:40,404
&gt;&gt; I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? 

1032
00:40:40,404 --> 00:40:40,538
 

1033
00:40:40,538 --> 00:40:42,706
&gt;&gt; THE CONTRACT DOES ADDRESS  

1034
00:40:42,706 --> 00:40:45,242
WELLNESS, SO YOUR COMMENTS ARE  

1035
00:40:45,242 --> 00:40:46,177
WELL-PLACED. OUR NEXT SPEAKER  

1036
00:40:46,177 --> 00:40:49,013
IS PAUL COMRIE, WHO WILL BE  

1037
00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:51,449
FOLLOWED BY MOLLY SOMERSET. WE  

1038
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:57,721
ARE SWITCHING TO ONLINE 

1039
00:40:57,721 --> 00:41:06,764
SPEAKERS.  PAUL COMRIE? YOU  

1040
00:41:06,764 --> 00:41:09,567
WITH US?   

1041
00:41:09,567 --> 00:41:10,801
&gt;&gt; OKAY, NOW I AM UNMUTED.  

1042
00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:11,569
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER  

1043
00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:16,740
HERBOLD. YES.  I A -- I DON'T  

1044
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:20,578
HAVE COMMENTS ON SPECIFIC 

1045
00:41:20,578 --> 00:41:21,245
PROVISIONS OF THE CONTRACT AND  

1046
00:41:21,245 --> 00:41:23,147
DISCUSSIONS TODAY. I MOSTLY  

1047
00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:29,487
HAVE A STATEMENT  ABOUT THE  

1048
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:30,120
NEGOTIATIONS THEMSELVES. MY  

1049
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,555
NAME, AGAIN, IS PAUL COMRIE AND 

1050
00:41:31,555 --> 00:41:32,823
I LIVE IN BALLARD AS WELL LIKE 

1051
00:41:32,823 --> 00:41:33,858
THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT ARE  

1052
00:41:33,858 --> 00:41:39,630
TODAY. I DO NOT SUPPORT SPD. I  

1053
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:40,865
UNDERSTAND THAT THE POLICE WERE 

1054
00:41:40,865 --> 00:41:41,665
NEVER DEFUNDED AND I WANT TO 

1055
00:41:41,665 --> 00:41:42,566
SEE FEWER POLICE OFFICERS  

1056
00:41:42,566 --> 00:41:43,434
STOCKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I  

1057
00:41:43,434 --> 00:41:46,904
WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT YOUR  

1058
00:41:46,904 --> 00:41:47,638
REPRESENTATIVES FIRST AND  

1059
00:41:47,638 --> 00:41:48,772
FOREMOST. CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT 

1060
00:41:48,772 --> 00:41:51,275
REPRESENT SPMA  AND THIS SHOULD 

1061
00:41:51,275 --> 00:41:54,512
NOT BE A FAST TRACK OR  

1062
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,180
RUBBERSTAMP. THE POLICE DO FEEL 

1063
00:41:56,180 --> 00:42:00,651
LIKE A THREAT TO MANY  

1064
00:42:00,651 --> 00:42:01,619
SEATTLEITES AND WE WANT LESS  

1065
00:42:01,619 --> 00:42:02,553
MONEY IN THEIR HANDS, MEANING  

1066
00:42:02,553 --> 00:42:07,791
FEWER POLICE OFFICERS. WE  

1067
00:42:07,791 --> 00:42:08,726
UNDERSTAND THE POLICE TO BE AN  

1068
00:42:08,726 --> 00:42:09,627
OCCUPYING FORCE THAT DEFENDS  

1069
00:42:09,627 --> 00:42:11,495
CAPITAL FIRST AND FOREMOST AND  

1070
00:42:11,495 --> 00:42:12,396
THEY OFTEN SEE THEMSELVES 

1071
00:42:12,396 --> 00:42:15,532
LIVING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 

1072
00:42:15,532 --> 00:42:16,567
THEY VERY RARELY APPROACH  

1073
00:42:16,567 --> 00:42:22,006
ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES CRIME  

1074
00:42:22,006 --> 00:42:23,007
PREVENTION. WE MUST REMEMBER  

1075
00:42:23,007 --> 00:42:24,742
THAT THE LEADERSHIP OF SPD, THE 

1076
00:42:24,742 --> 00:42:25,643
KIND OF PEOPLE WHO YOU WILL NOT 

1077
00:42:25,643 --> 00:42:27,778
BE NEGOTIATING WITH ELEVATED  

1078
00:42:27,778 --> 00:42:33,217
PEOPLE LIKE FORMER POLICE CHIEF 

1079
00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:34,585
CARMEN BEST. WE SAW THAT THE  

1080
00:42:34,585 --> 00:42:35,953
REPRESENTATION OF SPD ON  

1081
00:42:35,953 --> 00:42:41,225
JANUARY 6th DOES NOT REPRESENT  

1082
00:42:41,225 --> 00:42:42,426
THE CULTURE OF OUR CITY AND 

1083
00:42:42,426 --> 00:42:43,727
MOST OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT IT  

1084
00:42:43,727 --> 00:42:44,862
IS STILL UNDER THE CONSENT  

1085
00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:46,263
DECREE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. IN  

1086
00:42:46,263 --> 00:42:47,131
SHORT, MANY PEOPLE IN SEATTLE  

1087
00:42:47,131 --> 00:42:49,900
UNDERSTAND THAT THE CULTURE   

1088
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:50,868
CONTINUES TO BE ROTTEN, BUT  

1089
00:42:50,868 --> 00:42:56,807
OBVIOUSLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF  

1090
00:42:56,807 --> 00:42:58,142
CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS , YOU  

1091
00:42:58,142 --> 00:42:59,310
CANNOT ASSUME THE WORST OF THE  

1092
00:42:59,310 --> 00:43:00,311
EMPLOYEES YOU WILL BE  

1093
00:43:00,311 --> 00:43:01,011
NEGOTIATING WITH, AND I  

1094
00:43:01,011 --> 00:43:01,879
UNDERSTAND YOU ARE LEGALLY  

1095
00:43:01,879 --> 00:43:02,846
REQUIRED TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD  

1096
00:43:02,846 --> 00:43:06,583
FAITH, SO IN SHORT I ASK YOU TO 

1097
00:43:06,583 --> 00:43:07,484
REMEMBER TO NEGOTIATE SHREWDLY  

1098
00:43:07,484 --> 00:43:08,385
ON BEHALF OF CITIZENS LIKE  

1099
00:43:08,385 --> 00:43:09,586
MYSELF. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. 

1100
00:43:09,586 --> 00:43:09,720
 

1101
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:10,721
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, AND OUR NEXT  

1102
00:43:10,721 --> 00:43:11,588
SPEAKER IS MOLLY SOMERSET.  

1103
00:43:11,588 --> 00:43:19,396
MOLLY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY BETH. 

1104
00:43:19,396 --> 00:43:23,133
 MOLLY, IF YOU COULD HIT STAR  

1105
00:43:23,133 --> 00:43:30,908
SIX, SO WE COULD HEAR YOU?   

1106
00:43:30,908 --> 00:43:33,143
AGAIN, MOLLY -- THERE YOU GO.  

1107
00:43:33,143 --> 00:43:33,444
PERFECT!  

1108
00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:40,351
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING,  

1109
00:43:40,351 --> 00:43:43,621
PUBLIC SERVICES AND HEALTH AND  

1110
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:47,024
SAFETY COMMITTEE. I CALL ON YOU 

1111
00:43:47,024 --> 00:43:52,663
TO NOT RENEW THE SPMA CONTRACT  

1112
00:43:52,663 --> 00:43:54,031
. AS THE COMMITTEE RESPONSIBLE  

1113
00:43:54,031 --> 00:43:54,865
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY I LOOK  

1114
00:43:54,865 --> 00:43:57,434
FORWARD TO TAKING STEPS AWAY  

1115
00:43:57,434 --> 00:43:58,402
FROM AN INSTITUTION THAT HAS  

1116
00:43:58,402 --> 00:44:01,005
ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT MAINTAINING  

1117
00:44:01,005 --> 00:44:01,872
WHITE SUPREMACY AND SUPPRESSING 

1118
00:44:01,872 --> 00:44:04,875
THE WORKING CLASS AND POOR.  

1119
00:44:04,875 --> 00:44:06,877
POLICING IN THE U.S. HAS  

1120
00:44:06,877 --> 00:44:16,920
ORIGINS IN SLAVE PATROLS, AND 

1121
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,988
THERE ARE STORIES ABOUT THE SPD 

1122
00:44:17,988 --> 00:44:18,822
KILLING TWO STRIKING MARITIME  

1123
00:44:18,822 --> 00:44:25,896
WORKERS IN 1904.  THEY ALSO  

1124
00:44:25,896 --> 00:44:27,097
WENT UNDER A CONSENT DECREE DUE 

1125
00:44:27,097 --> 00:44:32,569
TO BIAS POLICING AND EXCESSIVE  

1126
00:44:32,569 --> 00:44:33,937
FORCE. IT WAS FOUND THAT SPD  

1127
00:44:33,937 --> 00:44:34,638
CONTINUES TO EXHIBIT BIAS  

1128
00:44:34,638 --> 00:44:40,144
POLICING COMPARED WITH WHITE 

1129
00:44:40,144 --> 00:44:42,279
PEOPLE.  THEY STOP PEOPLE NINE 

1130
00:44:42,279 --> 00:44:43,380
TIMES MORE FREQUENTLY IN BLACK  

1131
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:44,081
PEOPLE FIVE TIMES MORE  

1132
00:44:44,081 --> 00:44:49,386
FREQUENTLY. ADDITIONALLY,  

1133
00:44:49,386 --> 00:44:50,788
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE,  PACIFIC  

1134
00:44:50,788 --> 00:44:52,022
ISLANDERS AND BLACK PEOPLE ARE  

1135
00:44:52,022 --> 00:44:52,956
SUBJECT TO MORE FORCE THAN  

1136
00:44:52,956 --> 00:44:53,924
WHITE PEOPLE. WITHIN SPD THERE  

1137
00:44:53,924 --> 00:44:54,925
IS EVIDENCE OF BIAS AND 

1138
00:44:54,925 --> 00:44:56,060
DISCRIMINATION AS NOTED BY THE  

1139
00:44:56,060 --> 00:45:03,267
$10 MILLION LAWSUIT. CONTRACTS  

1140
00:45:03,267 --> 00:45:03,967
PROTECTED PEOPLE LIKE  

1141
00:45:03,967 --> 00:45:09,273
LIEUTENANT HIGGINS, WHO KILLED  

1142
00:45:09,273 --> 00:45:10,040
TWO SEATTLEITES IN CRISIS AND  

1143
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,741
PEOPLE LIKE LIEUTENANT HIGGINS  

1144
00:45:10,741 --> 00:45:12,309
WHO DROVE ONTO A SIDEWALK AND  

1145
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:13,010
CALLED PROTESTERS COCKROACHES.  

1146
00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:20,584
WE MUST END QUALIFIED IMMUNITY  

1147
00:45:20,584 --> 00:45:21,952
, AND WE MUST NOT NEGOTIATE  

1148
00:45:21,952 --> 00:45:22,886
WITH THOSE WHO UPHOLD CONTEMPT  

1149
00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:24,088
FOR THE PEOPLE. DO NOT RENEW  

1150
00:45:24,088 --> 00:45:25,022
THE CONTRACT. THANK YOU.  

1151
00:45:25,022 --> 00:45:35,566
&gt;&gt; OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BETH.   

1152
00:45:37,601 --> 00:45:40,771
&gt;&gt; HELLO.  MY NAME IS BETH AND 

1153
00:45:40,771 --> 00:45:42,272
I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR A GOOD  

1154
00:45:42,272 --> 00:45:43,173
CONTRACT FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE 

1155
00:45:43,173 --> 00:45:46,176
DEPARTMENT. SEATTLE POLICE  

1156
00:45:46,176 --> 00:45:47,277
DEPARTMENT  ARE CITY EMPLOYEES  

1157
00:45:47,277 --> 00:45:48,612
THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITHOUT 

1158
00:45:48,612 --> 00:45:51,014
A CONTRACT FOR MORE THAN TWO  

1159
00:45:51,014 --> 00:45:51,949
YEARS. THEY HAVE BEEN  

1160
00:45:51,949 --> 00:45:52,783
MISTREATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL  

1161
00:45:52,783 --> 00:45:56,787
AND THE CITY AND HAVE BEEN THE  

1162
00:45:56,787 --> 00:45:57,688
SUBJECT-THE VICTIMS OF HUNDREDS 

1163
00:45:57,688 --> 00:46:01,291
OF ASSAULTS. EVEN THE MIDDLE OF 

1164
00:46:01,291 --> 00:46:02,025
THOSE ASSAULTS, THE CITY  

1165
00:46:02,025 --> 00:46:04,461
COUNCIL WAS SUPPORTING THE  

1166
00:46:04,461 --> 00:46:10,000
PEOPLE WHO WERE ASSAULTING CITY 

1167
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,836
EMPLOYEES.  THE DATA SAYS THAT  

1168
00:46:12,836 --> 00:46:14,304
THERE IS MUCH LESS STAFFING ON  

1169
00:46:14,304 --> 00:46:14,972
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

1170
00:46:14,972 --> 00:46:16,373
THAN NEEDED. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT 

1171
00:46:16,373 --> 00:46:17,875
THE PERCENTAGE IS. IT IS  

1172
00:46:17,875 --> 00:46:25,816
INCREDIBLE, BECAUSE THEY WERE   

1173
00:46:25,816 --> 00:46:26,850
LOW-STAFFED THREE YEARS AGO,  

1174
00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:27,718
AND THE NEW CITY COUNCIL 

1175
00:46:27,718 --> 00:46:30,287
MEMBERS ARE PROMISING TO GET  

1176
00:46:30,287 --> 00:46:38,629
MORE STAFF, MORE  POLICE  

1177
00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:39,696
OFFICERS, AND SINCE THEN THEY  

1178
00:46:39,696 --> 00:46:40,898
HAVE LOST MORE THAN 600 STAFF,  

1179
00:46:40,898 --> 00:46:42,099
ALMOST ONE THIRD OF THE  

1180
00:46:42,099 --> 00:46:43,033
STAFFING. IT WAS BECOMING A  

1181
00:46:43,033 --> 00:46:44,334
MORE DIVERSE POLICE FORCE, 

1182
00:46:44,334 --> 00:46:45,369
EXCEPT WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL  

1183
00:46:45,369 --> 00:46:46,069
SUPER MAJORITY THREATENED TO 

1184
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:52,276
DEFUND THEM BY 50%. MANY OF  

1185
00:46:52,276 --> 00:46:55,679
THOSE NEW  AND MORE DIVERSE  

1186
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:56,647
OFFICERS COULD SEE THE WRITING  

1187
00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:58,015
ON THE WALL AND THAT THEY  

1188
00:46:58,015 --> 00:46:59,383
NEEDED TO GET A NEW JOB BEFORE  

1189
00:46:59,383 --> 00:47:00,751
THEY GOT FIRED, SO THEY DID.  

1190
00:47:00,751 --> 00:47:01,618
THEY WENT TO APPRECIATIVE 

1191
00:47:01,618 --> 00:47:02,586
CITIES ACROSS THE STATE AND  

1192
00:47:02,586 --> 00:47:03,587
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE CITY  

1193
00:47:03,587 --> 00:47:06,423
COUNCIL HAS MISTREATED THE CITY 

1194
00:47:06,423 --> 00:47:10,160
EMPLOYEES FOR FAR TOO LONG. THE 

1195
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,697
HOMICIDE RATES AND THE VIOLENCE 

1196
00:47:13,697 --> 00:47:14,865
RATES, THE MOST VULNERABLE IN  

1197
00:47:14,865 --> 00:47:16,200
OUR CITY ARE BEING KILLED. THEY 

1198
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:22,806
ARE BEING ASSAULTED BECAUSE   

1199
00:47:22,806 --> 00:47:24,107
THERE IS NOT A POLICE FORCE  

1200
00:47:24,107 --> 00:47:25,309
THAT IS NEEDED. THEY JUST DO  

1201
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:26,577
NOT HAVE THE STAFF OR THE  

1202
00:47:26,577 --> 00:47:27,945
ABILITY. POLICE ARE BEING ASKED 

1203
00:47:27,945 --> 00:47:28,879
TO DO INCREDIBLE OVERTIME,  

1204
00:47:28,879 --> 00:47:31,949
WHICH IS JUST NOT FAIR. IT  

1205
00:47:31,949 --> 00:47:34,685
MAKES THEM NOT -- YOU CANNOT  

1206
00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:39,056
KEEP DOING OVERTIME AND KEEP  

1207
00:47:39,056 --> 00:47:40,524
DOING THE JOB. THAT IS JUST --  

1208
00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:43,327
YOU CANNOT KEEP DOING -- NO  

1209
00:47:43,327 --> 00:47:44,194
STAFF MEMBER, NO CITY EMPLOYEE  

1210
00:47:44,194 --> 00:47:45,963
SHOULD BE ASKED TO DO THAT.  

1211
00:47:45,963 --> 00:47:46,396
THANK YOU.  

1212
00:47:46,396 --> 00:47:50,867
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. MOVING BACK TO  

1213
00:47:50,867 --> 00:47:51,735
OUR IN PERSON PUBLIC  

1214
00:47:51,735 --> 00:47:54,371
COMMENTERS, WE HAVE ROXIE  

1215
00:47:54,371 --> 00:48:04,848
FOLLOWED BY BRAD SPIEGEL.   

1216
00:48:10,721 --> 00:48:15,959
&gt;&gt; HELLO. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME  

1217
00:48:15,959 --> 00:48:16,193
WELL?  

1218
00:48:16,193 --> 00:48:17,594
&gt;&gt; JUST SPEAK RIGHT UP INTO IT. 

1219
00:48:17,594 --> 00:48:17,728
 

1220
00:48:17,728 --> 00:48:23,333
&gt;&gt; ALL RIGHT. I AM ONE OF THOSE 

1221
00:48:23,333 --> 00:48:24,334
PROTESTERS WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY  

1222
00:48:24,334 --> 00:48:25,335
INJURED BY POLICE A COUPLE  

1223
00:48:25,335 --> 00:48:27,104
YEARS AGO IN THE UPRISING. I  

1224
00:48:27,104 --> 00:48:28,505
ALSO HAD SHORT NOTICE AND I  

1225
00:48:28,505 --> 00:48:32,476
DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED.  

1226
00:48:32,476 --> 00:48:33,710
PUBLIC SPEAKING IS A LITTLE BIT 

1227
00:48:33,710 --> 00:48:37,014
DIFFICULT FOR ME GIVEN ALL  

1228
00:48:37,014 --> 00:48:38,048
THESE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED 

1229
00:48:38,048 --> 00:48:45,989
TO ME SURROUNDING THESE EVENTS. 

1230
00:48:45,989 --> 00:48:52,629
 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND 

1231
00:48:52,629 --> 00:48:54,498
EVERYONE  HERE OF IS THAT 

1232
00:48:54,498 --> 00:48:55,432
EVENTUALLY WE WILL MAKE ALL  

1233
00:48:55,432 --> 00:48:56,133
THESE INSTITUTIONS IRRELEVANT.  

1234
00:48:56,133 --> 00:49:00,871
WHAT WE DO HERE TODAY IS ONLY 

1235
00:49:00,871 --> 00:49:01,538
APPLICABLE IN THE SHORT-TERM.  

1236
00:49:01,538 --> 00:49:02,739
THIS CONTRACT, IF IT IS  

1237
00:49:02,739 --> 00:49:05,809
RENEWED, WHICH IT PROBABLY WILL 

1238
00:49:05,809 --> 00:49:07,110
BE, WILL ONE DAY NOT MATTER  

1239
00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:09,780
ANYMORE. WE WILL MAKE BETTER  

1240
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:10,914
SYSTEMS. WE WILL MAKE BETTER  

1241
00:49:10,914 --> 00:49:16,119
ALTERNATIVES. WE NEED TO HOUSE, 

1242
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:16,987
FEED, EDUCATE EVERYONE. THAT'S 

1243
00:49:16,987 --> 00:49:21,358
IT. THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO.  

1244
00:49:21,358 --> 00:49:25,095
POLICE ACTIVELY EXCLUDE PEOPLE  

1245
00:49:25,095 --> 00:49:25,963
FROM RETAINING THE RESOURCES  

1246
00:49:25,963 --> 00:49:29,599
THAT THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN A  

1247
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:30,500
MEANINGFUL AND FULFILLED LIFE. 

1248
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:35,172
WE SEE POLICE ACTIVELY POINTING 

1249
00:49:35,172 --> 00:49:38,909
GUNS AT PEOPLE, TRYING TO GET  

1250
00:49:38,909 --> 00:49:42,312
FOOD FROM DUMPSTERS IN PARTS OF 

1251
00:49:42,312 --> 00:49:46,650
THIS COUNTRY. WE SEE POLICE  

1252
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:47,317
THROWING AWAY PEOPLE'S  

1253
00:49:47,317 --> 00:49:49,553
BELONGINGS WHEN THEY ARE LIVING 

1254
00:49:49,553 --> 00:49:50,787
ON THE STREET AND THAT'S ALL 

1255
00:49:50,787 --> 00:49:56,426
THEY HAVE. EVERYDAY SWEEPS ARE 

1256
00:49:56,426 --> 00:49:59,730
HAPPENING  AND THESE PEOPLE ARE 

1257
00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:00,464
BEING DISPLACED. THEIR LIVES  

1258
00:50:00,464 --> 00:50:01,798
ARE BEING DISRUPTED. IT IS NOW  

1259
00:50:01,798 --> 00:50:03,166
TIME FOR US AS A COLLECTIVE TO  

1260
00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:04,101
DISRUPT THESE SYSTEMS. THANK  

1261
00:50:04,101 --> 00:50:04,334
YOU.  

1262
00:50:04,334 --> 00:50:07,404
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER  

1263
00:50:07,404 --> 00:50:13,143
IS BRAD SPIEGEL, FOLLOWED BY  

1264
00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:15,812
STONE LAVAN.   

1265
00:50:15,812 --> 00:50:17,080
&gt;&gt; GOOD AFTERNOON, OR I SHOULD  

1266
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,315
SAYGOOD EVENING NOW. THANK YOU 

1267
00:50:18,315 --> 00:50:20,250
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK  

1268
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:21,385
HERE. LIKE MANY PEOPLE, I JUST  

1269
00:50:21,385 --> 00:50:24,454
FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS JUST A FEW 

1270
00:50:24,454 --> 00:50:25,555
HOURS AGO, ABOUT THIS MEETING.  

1271
00:50:25,555 --> 00:50:27,624
SEATTLE HAS BEEN HOME FOR  

1272
00:50:27,624 --> 00:50:32,162
MYSELF AND MY FAMILY FOR NEARLY 

1273
00:50:32,162 --> 00:50:33,597
25 YEARS. WE HAVE SEEN THE GOOD 

1274
00:50:33,597 --> 00:50:37,067
AND THE BAD, AND NOW WE ARE  

1275
00:50:37,067 --> 00:50:40,303
SEEING THE UGLY. WE HAVE SEEN  

1276
00:50:40,303 --> 00:50:42,606
THINGS THAT WORK AND WE HAVE 

1277
00:50:42,606 --> 00:50:45,675
SEEN THINGS THAT HAVE NOT  

1278
00:50:45,675 --> 00:50:46,443
WORKED. WE HAVE HAD CITY  

1279
00:50:46,443 --> 00:50:48,678
COUNCILS THAT HAVE COME AND  

1280
00:50:48,678 --> 00:50:52,649
GONE THAT BOTH SUPPORTED OUR  

1281
00:50:52,649 --> 00:50:53,583
POLICE, FIRE, CITY EMPLOYEES,  

1282
00:50:53,583 --> 00:50:57,554
AND WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY HAD  

1283
00:50:57,554 --> 00:50:58,288
COUNCILS WHO HAVE NOT. THE  

1284
00:50:58,288 --> 00:51:00,624
IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY FROM THIS  

1285
00:51:00,624 --> 00:51:05,162
IS THAT AS MUCH AS SOME PEOPLE  

1286
00:51:05,162 --> 00:51:06,263
MIGHT NOT LIKE THE POLICE FOR  

1287
00:51:06,263 --> 00:51:10,901
WHATEVER THE REASON, THEY ARE  

1288
00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:12,035
AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR  

1289
00:51:12,035 --> 00:51:13,203
COMMUNITY. WE ARE SEEING WHAT  

1290
00:51:13,203 --> 00:51:15,906
HAPPENS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE  

1291
00:51:15,906 --> 00:51:18,875
EFFECTIVE POLICING AND ENOUGH  

1292
00:51:18,875 --> 00:51:21,111
POLICE OFFICERS. WE START  

1293
00:51:21,111 --> 00:51:23,647
SEEING BURNOUT, HUGE AMOUNTS  

1294
00:51:23,647 --> 00:51:24,548
OVERTIME. WE STARTED SEEING  

1295
00:51:24,548 --> 00:51:29,052
THIS DURING THE HUGE CROWDS  

1296
00:51:29,052 --> 00:51:32,622
THAT CAME TO SEATTLE VISITING  

1297
00:51:32,622 --> 00:51:35,826
OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, AND  

1298
00:51:35,826 --> 00:51:39,663
HOW MANY OFFICERS JUST SAID,  

1299
00:51:39,663 --> 00:51:40,997
LISTEN, I LOVE MY JOB BUT I  

1300
00:51:40,997 --> 00:51:42,232
CANNOT WORK 80+ HOURS A WEEK.  

1301
00:51:42,232 --> 00:51:46,136
THAT BEING SAID, THERE HAS TO  

1302
00:51:46,136 --> 00:51:51,074
BE GIVE-AND-TAKE WITHIN A  

1303
00:51:51,074 --> 00:51:52,209
CONTRACT. I, MYSELF, AND MANY  

1304
00:51:52,209 --> 00:51:57,314
PEOPLE, WE ALL AGREE THAT  

1305
00:51:57,314 --> 00:51:58,281
CERTAIN THINGS SUCH AS HAVING  

1306
00:51:58,281 --> 00:51:59,583
ALL OF OUR POLICE LIVE WITHIN  

1307
00:51:59,583 --> 00:52:02,552
THE CITY LIMITS, WHICH USED TO  

1308
00:52:02,552 --> 00:52:03,787
BE A THING THAT WE WOULD SEE 

1309
00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:04,955
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, AN  

1310
00:52:04,955 --> 00:52:11,828
OFFICER WHO LIVES IN THE  

1311
00:52:11,828 --> 00:52:12,762
COMMUNITY WILL PROTECT THE  

1312
00:52:12,762 --> 00:52:13,730
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 

1313
00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:13,864
 

1314
00:52:13,864 --> 00:52:19,569
&gt;&gt; OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STONE 

1315
00:52:19,569 --> 00:52:23,473
LAVAN.   

1316
00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:30,313
&gt;&gt; OKAY. SO  FIRST I WOULD LIKE 

1317
00:52:30,313 --> 00:52:32,516
TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSIVE  

1318
00:52:32,516 --> 00:52:34,351
GROCERY PRICES. AS A  

1319
00:52:34,351 --> 00:52:36,219
27-YEAR-OLD MAN I AM LIVING OFF 

1320
00:52:36,219 --> 00:52:43,793
EBT CASH AND FOOD STAMPS.  THEY 

1321
00:52:43,793 --> 00:52:45,195
JUST RANDOMLY CUT OFF MY CASH  

1322
00:52:45,195 --> 00:52:46,630
WHICH I HAD BEEN LIVING ON FOR  

1323
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:47,531
A WHILE. THESE PRICES, GROCERY  

1324
00:52:47,531 --> 00:52:48,765
PRICES ARE NUTS. I HAVE NEVER 

1325
00:52:48,765 --> 00:52:50,133
MADE MORE THAN $50,000 IN THE  

1326
00:52:50,133 --> 00:52:51,601
CITY WORKING HERE. I USED TO BE 

1327
00:52:51,601 --> 00:53:02,145
HOMELESS AND NOW I WORK MY ASS  

1328
00:53:03,246 --> 00:53:05,115
 OFF AND ALMOST DIED FOR IT. I  

1329
00:53:05,115 --> 00:53:06,316
LIVE IN A LOW INCOME HOUSING  

1330
00:53:06,316 --> 00:53:07,551
UNIT WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO HELP  

1331
00:53:07,551 --> 00:53:08,685
PEOPLE GET OUT OF HOMELESSNESS, 

1332
00:53:08,685 --> 00:53:09,986
AND THEY STILL EVICT YOU AND IT 

1333
00:53:09,986 --> 00:53:11,288
IS FRONTED BY THE TAXES THAT  

1334
00:53:11,288 --> 00:53:15,759
PAYS YOU GUYS'  PAYCHECKS.  

1335
00:53:15,759 --> 00:53:16,693
HONESTLY, IT IS DISGRACEFUL TO  

1336
00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:18,495
TRY TO EVICT ME IN A LOW INCOME 

1337
00:53:18,495 --> 00:53:19,663
HOUSING UNIT THAT IS FUNDED BY  

1338
00:53:19,663 --> 00:53:20,697
THE STATE OF WASHINGTON TAXES.  

1339
00:53:20,697 --> 00:53:21,831
 IT IS PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE. 

1340
00:53:21,831 --> 00:53:24,935
LIKE THAT IS NUTS. YOU CANNOT  

1341
00:53:24,935 --> 00:53:26,036
DO THAT. PEOPLE ARE REALLY 

1342
00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:27,304
SCARED TO CALL THE POLICE WHEN  

1343
00:53:27,304 --> 00:53:34,711
THEY NEED IT.  IF YOU CALL THE  

1344
00:53:34,711 --> 00:53:35,612
POLICE THEY WILL JUST START  

1345
00:53:35,612 --> 00:53:36,880
SAYING YOU ARE NUTS AND THEY  

1346
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,348
WILL LOCK YOU UP IN A MENTAL  

1347
00:53:38,348 --> 00:53:39,282
HOSPITAL. ONE OF THE THINGS  

1348
00:53:39,282 --> 00:53:41,551
THAT MAKES ME SO MAD ABOUT THE  

1349
00:53:41,551 --> 00:53:42,586
-- ABOUT THIS GOVERNMENT IS 

1350
00:53:42,586 --> 00:53:44,054
THAT I HAVE BEEN SENT TO MENTAL 

1351
00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:44,888
HOSPITALS, WHICH ARE REALLY  

1352
00:53:44,888 --> 00:53:45,889
INSANE ASYLUM'S LIKE FIVE TIMES 

1353
00:53:45,889 --> 00:53:50,594
FOR ABSOLUTE BOWL. LIKE  

1354
00:53:50,594 --> 00:53:51,728
HONESTLY, I DON'T WANT TO BE  

1355
00:53:51,728 --> 00:53:53,129
ARRESTED AND PUT ME IN SOME  

1356
00:53:53,129 --> 00:53:54,264
LOONY BIN WHEN I DIDN'T HURT  

1357
00:53:54,264 --> 00:53:55,432
ANYBODY, I DIDN'T SHOOT ANYBODY 

1358
00:53:55,432 --> 00:53:56,366
OR STAB ANYBODY OR VIOLENTLY  

1359
00:53:56,366 --> 00:53:57,500
ASSAULT ANYBODY. YOU GUYS HAVE  

1360
00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:02,672
TO STOP THE POLICE FROM LOCKING 

1361
00:54:02,672 --> 00:54:03,907
PEOPLE UP WITH THAT CRAZY WHITE 

1362
00:54:03,907 --> 00:54:05,408
LADY IN THE VAST WHO BRINGS YOU 

1363
00:54:05,408 --> 00:54:06,543
OUT OF JAIL AND TRANSFERS YOU  

1364
00:54:06,543 --> 00:54:07,644
TO A INSANE ASYLUM. THOSE  

1365
00:54:07,644 --> 00:54:15,385
PLACES ARE LIKE HELL . I NEVER 

1366
00:54:15,385 --> 00:54:16,553
WANT TO GO BACK THERE AGAIN. 

1367
00:54:16,553 --> 00:54:17,721
YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING  

1368
00:54:17,721 --> 00:54:18,722
ABOUT THIS MENTAL HOSPITAL  

1369
00:54:18,722 --> 00:54:19,589
LOCKUP CRAP. EVERYTHING IS TOO  

1370
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:22,626
EXPENSIVE. ALL RIGHT. HONESTLY, 

1371
00:54:22,626 --> 00:54:25,795
THE POLICE, LIKE, THEY HAVE TO  

1372
00:54:25,795 --> 00:54:33,536
BE PUT IN CHECK. THAT IS SOME  

1373
00:54:33,536 --> 00:54:34,671
HIGHER UP RANK DISCRIMINATION  

1374
00:54:34,671 --> 00:54:36,072
THEY GOT GOING ON. ALL RIGHT.  

1375
00:54:36,072 --> 00:54:39,976
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. THAT IS OUR LAST 

1376
00:54:39,976 --> 00:54:45,315
IN PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKER. WE  

1377
00:54:45,315 --> 00:54:46,583
HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO WERE  

1378
00:54:46,583 --> 00:54:47,751
SIGNED IN VIRTUALLY WHO ARE  

1379
00:54:47,751 --> 00:54:48,852
STILL SHOWING AS NOT PRESENT.  

1380
00:54:48,852 --> 00:54:53,890
THEY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY CHANGE  

1381
00:54:53,890 --> 00:54:59,629
IN THEIR STATUS AS NOT PRESENT. 

1382
00:54:59,629 --> 00:55:01,197
SO THAT IS NOTED ON THE MEETING 

1383
00:55:01,197 --> 00:55:02,932
AGENDA. PEOPLE CAN ALSO SEND  

1384
00:55:02,932 --> 00:55:04,100
WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THE SUBJECT 

1385
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,936
OF THIS HEARING. OH, YOU DON'T  

1386
00:55:06,936 --> 00:55:12,008
HAVE TO SIGN UP. REVEREND 

1387
00:55:12,008 --> 00:55:13,109
WALDEN, YOU ARE OUR LAST  

1388
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:14,344
SPEAKER. WE WILL MAKE NOTE OF  

1389
00:55:14,344 --> 00:55:14,544
IT.  

1390
00:55:14,544 --> 00:55:21,318
&gt;&gt; GOOD AFTERNOON , AND THANK  

1391
00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:22,519
YOU. I AM SPEAKING FROM THE 

1392
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:23,320
OFFICE OF POLICE ACCOUNT  

1393
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,487
ABILITY. WE HAVE BEEN DOING  

1394
00:55:24,487 --> 00:55:25,889
THIS WORK FOR A LONG TIME. WE  

1395
00:55:25,889 --> 00:55:27,524
HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK. I WANT 

1396
00:55:27,524 --> 00:55:31,961
TO SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT AS  

1397
00:55:31,961 --> 00:55:33,430
MUCH OF THE CONTRACT AS I CAN,  

1398
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:34,698
BUT ABOUT THE FACT THAT NOBODY  

1399
00:55:34,698 --> 00:55:35,632
IS SPEAKING FOR THE BLACK  

1400
00:55:35,632 --> 00:55:36,733
COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT THERE  

1401
00:55:36,733 --> 00:55:43,440
ARE A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON.   

1402
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,941
THERE IS A LOT OF VIOLENCE THAT 

1403
00:55:44,941 --> 00:55:46,109
IS HAPPENING AND NOT ENOUGH  

1404
00:55:46,109 --> 00:55:48,578
DETECTIVES -- NOBODY IS GETTING 

1405
00:55:48,578 --> 00:55:49,879
BACK TO THE MOTHERS WERE CRYING 

1406
00:55:49,879 --> 00:55:50,680
BECAUSE THEIR CHILDREN HAVE  

1407
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:55,518
BEEN KILLED. SO THERE HAS TO BE 

1408
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:56,619
A BALANCE. THIS YOUNG LADY  

1409
00:55:56,619 --> 00:55:59,723
TALKED ABOUT THE WELLNESS AND  

1410
00:55:59,723 --> 00:56:01,057
STUFF, BUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO  

1411
00:56:01,057 --> 00:56:02,192
WANT TO SEE A COMMUNITY WITHOUT 

1412
00:56:02,192 --> 00:56:05,095
POLICING DON'T HEAR BULLETS  

1413
00:56:05,095 --> 00:56:06,129
EVERY NIGHT. THEY DON'T HEAR  

1414
00:56:06,129 --> 00:56:11,234
SHOTS EVERY NIGHT. THEY DON'T  

1415
00:56:11,234 --> 00:56:12,702
HEAR WHAT THE KIDS ARE GOING 

1416
00:56:12,702 --> 00:56:13,570
THROUGH AND THE TRAUMA THAT  

1417
00:56:13,570 --> 00:56:14,804
BLACK KIDS ARE LIVING IN RIGHT  

1418
00:56:14,804 --> 00:56:16,005
NOW IN SEATTLE AND ACROSS THE  

1419
00:56:16,005 --> 00:56:17,140
COUNTRY,  BECAUSE OF THE  

1420
00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:22,479
ESCALATING VIOLENCE IN OUR 

1421
00:56:22,479 --> 00:56:24,047
COMMUNITY.  A LARGE PART OF THE 

1422
00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:24,981
BLACK COMMUNITY REALLY DO CARE  

1423
00:56:24,981 --> 00:56:29,085
ABOUT THE POLICE. A LOT OF  

1424
00:56:29,085 --> 00:56:30,387
PEOPLE WERE JUST SO HAPPY TO  

1425
00:56:30,387 --> 00:56:31,521
SEE THE POLICE CHIEF THERE IN 

1426
00:56:31,521 --> 00:56:38,027
THE PARADE. SO  YOU HEAR  

1427
00:56:38,027 --> 00:56:39,062
ANOTHER STORE BUT YOU DON'T  

1428
00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:40,663
HEAR OUR STORY. SO WE HAVE HAD  

1429
00:56:40,663 --> 00:56:41,898
THIS -- WE HAVE HAD THIS LONG 

1430
00:56:41,898 --> 00:56:45,502
HISTORY WITH POLICING EVER  

1431
00:56:45,502 --> 00:56:46,236
SINCE SLAVE CATCHERS. NOBODY  

1432
00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:47,170
ELSE HAS THAT HISTORY. SO  

1433
00:56:47,170 --> 00:56:48,304
PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT  

1434
00:56:48,304 --> 00:56:49,706
HAPPENED TO US, BUT THEY DO NOT 

1435
00:56:49,706 --> 00:56:50,707
LIVE WITH US AND UNDERSTAND  

1436
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:51,908
WHAT WE NEED. SOMETIMES PEOPLE  

1437
00:56:51,908 --> 00:56:52,942
WHO HAVE LIVED IN THIS 

1438
00:56:52,942 --> 00:56:56,112
COMMUNITY AND BEEN THERE, I  

1439
00:56:56,112 --> 00:57:00,483
HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. 

1440
00:57:00,483 --> 00:57:01,951
RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO LOOK AT  

1441
00:57:01,951 --> 00:57:03,019
THE BALANCE. THERE ARE SOME  

1442
00:57:03,019 --> 00:57:07,157
OTHERS WHO ARE CRYING. THANK  

1443
00:57:07,157 --> 00:57:09,692
YOU VERY MUCH.  

1444
00:57:09,692 --> 00:57:11,661
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE  

1445
00:57:11,661 --> 00:57:15,498
THAT. SO THAT IS OUR LAST  

1446
00:57:15,498 --> 00:57:17,734
SPEAKER TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC 

1447
00:57:17,734 --> 00:57:21,905
HEARING. WE HAVE EXHAUSTED THE  

1448
00:57:21,905 --> 00:57:25,909
LIST OF FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED  

1449
00:57:25,909 --> 00:57:30,814
UP ONLINE AS WELL AS THE IN  

1450
00:57:30,814 --> 00:57:31,881
PERSON SPEAKERS. AS NOTED ON 

1451
00:57:31,881 --> 00:57:32,949
THE MEETING AGENDA, FOLKS CAN  

1452
00:57:32,949 --> 00:57:34,050
SEND WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THE  

1453
00:57:34,050 --> 00:57:39,856
SUBJECT OF THIS HEARING TO ME 

1454
00:57:39,856 --> 00:57:49,799
AT  LISA.HERBOLD@SEATTLE.GOV.  

1455
00:57:49,799 --> 00:57:52,302
THERE IS STILL ADDITIONAL TIME  

1456
00:57:52,302 --> 00:57:58,374
FOR COMMENT. WITH THAT,  PUBLIC 

1457
00:57:58,374 --> 00:57:59,242
BARGAINING IS NOW CLOSED. 

1458
00:57:59,242 --> 00:58:00,043
BEFORE WE ADJOURN, JUST  

1459
00:58:00,043 --> 00:58:07,717
CHECKING TO SEE, ARE THERE ANY  

1460
00:58:07,717 --> 00:58:09,385
COMMENTS FROM  COMMITTEE  

1461
00:58:09,385 --> 00:58:10,353
MEMBERS? LOOKING FOR VIRTUAL  

1462
00:58:10,353 --> 00:58:11,287
HANDS RAISED. NOT SEEING ANY,  

1463
00:58:11,287 --> 00:58:17,293
THE NEXT MEETING OF THE PUBLIC 

1464
00:58:17,293 --> 00:58:19,896
SAFETY  MEETING SCHEDULED FOR  

1465
00:58:19,896 --> 00:58:20,997
THIS COMING MONDAY ON AUGUST  

1466
00:58:20,997 --> 00:58:22,498
14th AT 2:00 P.M. AGAIN, WE  

1467
00:58:22,498 --> 00:58:25,335
APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC SAFETY  

1468
00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:28,571
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THIS IS THE  

1469
00:58:28,571 --> 00:58:29,606
SECOND PUBLIC SAFETY AND  

1470
00:58:29,606 --> 00:58:34,677
COMMUNITY SERVICES MEETING OF  

1471
00:58:34,677 --> 00:58:36,446
THE DAY. THE TIME IS NOW 6: 30  

1472
00:58:36,446 --> 00:58:37,447
P.M. AND WE ARE 

1473
00:58:38,915 --> 00:58:49,225
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. 

