>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING
BACK TO THE SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL MEETING. THE COMMITTEE
WILL RECONVENE AFTER RECESS AN
COME BACK TO ORDER. MADAME
CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ?
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ ?
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES ?
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN ?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT? CHAI
MOSQUEDA?
>> PRESENT. AND I THINK THAT
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS AND
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA ARE AT
LEAST IN THE ROOM.
>> I AM HERE .
>> GREAT. WE WILL NOTE AS OTHE
COUNCILMEMBERS JOIN US. THANK
YOU FOR BEGINNING THIS
CONVERSATION. WE DO HAVE TWO
TOPICS WE WOULD LIKE TO COVER
THIS AFTERNOON, AND THAT
INCLUDES THE FINAL COMPONENT OF
THE CARE DEPARTMENT, THE
COMMUNITY -ASSISTED RESPONSE AN
ENGAGEMENT CENTER. WE GOT TO
SLIDE TWO. LET'S KEEP GOING.
WE WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH. HAN
YOU TO THE EXECUTIVE PARTNERS
FOR BEING PART OF THE
DISCUSSION. FROM CENTRAL
STAFF, ANN GORMAN, I WILL HAVE
IT RIGHT BACK TO YOU.
>> I NEED TO BE PREPARED TO
STEP WITH PURPOSE, GIVING
PLENTY OF TIME FOR SPD.
COUNCILMEMBERS ARE INVITED TO
FOLLOW UP WITH ME ON ANY ASPEC
OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE DO
NOT GET INTO IN THE DISCUSSION
TODAY. CENTRAL STAFF IDENTIFIED
ONLY ONE ISSUE FOR THE COUNCIL
CONSIDERATION, THAT IS THE
REQUEST TO OBTAIN $600,000 IN
UNPROGRAMMED FUNDS, TO SUPPORT
THE ALIGNMENT , TO PUT IT
ANOTHER WAY, PUTTING THEM INTO
THE C.A.R.E. DEPARTMENT, THIS
IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY WITH THE
PARTICIPATION OF STAFF AND UNDE
THE LEADERSHIP OF THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT A
SPECIFIC EXPENDITURE WOULD BE
IDENTIFIED LATER IN 2024. I WAN
TO NOTE THAT THE GOAL OF THE
PLANNING EFFORT IS TO IDENTIFY
ADJACENCIES , THAT WOULD
ULTIMATELY MOVE INTO THE CSCC.
BUT THE CSCC STAFF DO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT COULD ALSO
FIND REDUNDANCIES, WHICH COULD
LEAD TO LAYOFFS. AND OPTION C
IS INTENDED TO GIVE INSIGHT
INTO THAT POSSIBILITY. I WILL
MOVE RIGHT TO THE ACTION.
OPTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBERS ?
OPTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBERS
INCLUDE A PROVISO OF FUNDING
REQUIRING THE COUNCIL APPROVAL
OF SPENDING PLAN, REDIRECT SOM
OR ALL OF THE FUNDING TO OTHER
COUNCIL PRIORITIES, CREATE A
SLI REQUESTING A REPORT ON
FINDINGS FOR THE PLANNING
EFFORT, OR NO CHANGE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE A
QUESTION ABOUT THE FOLLOWING
SLIDE.
>> NO PROBLEM. WE WILL GET YOU
FOR THAT. COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT T
FLAG INTEREST THAT I HAVE BEE
IDENTIFYING FOR THE HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT , BECAUSE
OF THE FACT THAT MANY OF THE
COMMUNITY VIOLENCE PREVENTION
AND RESPONSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE
BEING CONTEMPLATED TO BEING
MOVED OVER TO THE CARE
DEPARTMENT ARE CURRENTLY HOUSED
IN HST AND THE IDEA THAT WE
HAVE CONSIDERED A REPORT FROM
THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT
ON THE GAP ANALYSIS , THEY HAV
BEEN WORKING WITH THE KING
COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN
SERVICES ON THEIR COMMUNITY
AND RECOMMENDATIONS . THERE IS
A LEADERSHIP GROUP, I BELIEVE,
IN A LEADERSHIP GROUP ON GUN
VIOLENCE THAT KING COUNTY HAS
BEEN LEADING , ELECTED
OFFICIALS, I AM ON IT AND
MAYOR HERRELL IS ON IT AND THER
ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME
OUT, WORKING IN DEEP
COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY
PROVIDERS AND PARTNERS ON THE
FRONT LINE, THEY CAME UP WITH
SOMETHING CALLED THE COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND WELL-BEING
RECOMMENDATIONS. AND WE ARE
INTERESTED IN THE GAPS ,
WHETHER THEY ARE OVER AT HSD
AND WHERE COUNTY OFFERINGS
COMPLEMENT OR DUPLICATE THE
CITY. THE ANALYSIS WOULD BE
MOSTLY OF HSD AND COUNTY
PROGRAMS, SOME OF THEM ARE
AGAIN, PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING
CONSIDERED TO MOVE OVER TO THE
C.A.R.E. DEPARTMENT I AM
WONDERING IF THAT BODY OF WORK
COULD BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION
WITH WHAT IS RECOMMENDED UNDER
OPTION C, SLI.
>> I AM NOT SURE. I DON'T, I
AM NOT ABLE TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I D
NOT HAVE A SENSE OF A DEGREE OF
ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE PART THA
YOU JUST DESCRIBED AND THE
POTENTIAL SCOPE OF PROJECTS
AND PROGRAMS THAT COULD MOVE
INTO THE C.A.R.E. DEPARTMENT,
THERE IS A LOT OF OVERLAP WITH
THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
WELL-BEING RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT
THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS CURRENTL
THINKING ABOUT AS A CANDIDATE T
MOVE, OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIE
OF THAT PREVIOUS PROGRAM. BUT
WILL DO SOME WORK AND I WILL
FOLLOW UP TO LET YOU KNOW.
>> THE HSD SLIDE IS REALLY
FOCUSED ON THE INITIATIVE
PROGRAMS, AND THAT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE ARE TH
PROGRAMS THAT THEY ARE
CONTEMPLATING MOVING OVER, I
WAS THINKING ABOUT SOME OVERLAP
BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE FURTHER
LOOKS INTO THAT. THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO CAUTION FOLKS FROM
USING THE CHAT , BECAUSE THAT
DOES NOT GET CAPTURED FOR THE
VIEWING PUBLIC AND IT DOES NOT
GET CAPTURED FOR PUBLIC RECORD
ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
ADD, THAT WAS JUST ADDED INTO
THE CHAT?
>> YES, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT
HSD, FOR FOLKS INVOLVED IN
THAT, THEY ARE CLOSE
COLLABORATORS AND A LOT OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE COMING FROM
HSD , IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT
INITIATIVE. A VERY GOOD POINT,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> ANY FOLLOW-UP ? OKAY, I
WANT TO THANK CENTRAL STAFF FO
PROVIDING THIS ITEM. ON PAGE
TWO OF THE MEMO , THE 2022
ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THE CSCC
INCLUDED $150,000 FOR PLANNING
STUDIES. WOULD THAT HELP TO
DEVELOP POLICIES AS AN
INDEPENDENT AGENCY AND PLAN FOR
THE CIVILIAN RESPONSE AND /OR
ALTERNATIVE METHODS? THEY DID
NOT USE FUNDING FOR THIS
PURPOSE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT
THE CLEAR DIRECTIVE, GETTING
CODIFIED BY A DIRECTIVE, WE
SHOULD HAVE AN IDEA THAT THIS
WOULD BE USED THIS WAY. I AM
CONCERNED THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER
EXAMPLE OF FUNDING NOT GETTING
THERE. MAYBE CENTRAL STAFF HAS
SOMETHING FOR THE MAKING SURE
THAT TYPE OF PREPLANNING HAVEN'
BEEN LOOKING AT THE $607,000, I
IS A HIGHER AMOUNT, AND I WORRY
ABOUT LOST TIME, AND THE WAYS
THAT THEY COULD HAVE APPRECIATE
OR ANTICIPATED SOME OF THE
PLANNING. I LOOK FORWARD TO
HEARING MORE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL
AND WORKING WITH THE CHAIR OF
PUBLIC SAFETY ABOUT SOME OF THE
COMMENTS MADE AS WELL. LET'S GO
TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
>> ALL RIGHT. TO RESTATE, A LO
OF THE CONVERSATION SO FAR, HER
IS A SENTENCE FOR
COUNCILMEMBERS TO SAVE HER. TH
BUDGET PROPOSAL INCLUDES
ONGOING FUNDING FOR THE GROUP O
COMMUNITY FUNDERS. THIS WILL
BEGIN ON OCTOBER 19th, BEST OF
LUCK TO THE CITY STAFF IN THIS
IMPORTANT WORK. FOLLOWING UP ON
THE DIRECTOR'S REMARKS, JUST
BEFORE THE BREAK, TOO ADDED
ONE-TIME FUNDING IN THE 2023
ADOPTED BUDGET THAT WAS CBA
CSCC, THAT FUNDING PROVIDED THE
LIFT TO IMPLEMENT , FINALLY,
THIS RESPONSE, THERE IS 1.5
MILLION INCLUDED IN THE
PROPOSED BUDGET , THAT WILL
BECOME A PERMANENT PART OF THE
PROGRAM. THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER
AMOUNT ATTITUDE
>> COUNCILMEMBERS HERBOLD?
>> I THINK THAT WAS AN OLD
HAND. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
MENTIONING THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL PROVIDED FUNDING FOR
THIS LAST YEAR. I DO WANT TO,
WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE EARMARKED
FUNDING FOR THE PRIOR TWO
YEARS, FIRST IT WAS IN GENERAL
AND THEN I THINK IT WAS GOING T
GO TO , WHEN THAT IDEA WAS
STAFFED , NOW, WE HAVE
ALLOCATED IT TO CSCC FOR THE
NEW ITERATION. I ONLY MENTION
IT TO JUST SAY THAT THE COUNCI
HAS ELEVATED THIS AS A BUDGET
PRIORITY FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW.
AND JUST REALLY SAYING SO, IN
THE SPIRIT OF CELEBRATING WHER
WE ARE AT TODAY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT
SLIDE IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS
THE NEXT CONTEXTUAL BUDGET
ISSUE, IT IS CALL-CENTER
STAFFING. PARTICULARLY THE CALL
TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS. MAKE
SURE THAT RESPONDERS ARRIVED AT
THE SCENE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT I
GOING ON, AND HOW THEY CAN HELP
THERE HAS BEEN RECOGNITION
SINCE AT LEAST 2016. THE CITY
DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH OF THESE
POSITIONS TO MEET CALL
ANSWERING STANDARDS AND TO
PROVIDE STAFF WITH A GOOD
WORKLIFE BALANCE, INCLUDING
ACCESS TO BOTH MENTAL HEALTH AN
TRAINING RESOURCES. CURRENTLY
THERE IS A MANDATORY OVERTIME
REQUIREMENT OF EIGHT HOURS PER
WEEK FOR CALL-CENTER STAFF AND
COUNCIL CREATED A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT IN THE 2023
ADOPTED BUDGET, AND IT ASKED
CSCC TO EXPAND ON THAT STUDY AN
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE
APPROPRIATE STAFFING LEVEL AT
THE CALL CENTER. CSCC STAFF DI
THIS WORK IN A VERY METHODICAL
WAY, RECOMMENDING THE ADDITION
OF 33 CALL TAKERS AND
DISPATCHERS, BUT THE PROPOSED
BUDGET ONLY ADDS THREE IN THIS
AREA.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ?
>> I NOTICED, IS THERE AN
OPTION ? THAT MIGHT BE IN
RECOGNITION OF THE CURRENT
BUDGET REALITY, PARTICULARLY OU
BUDGET REALITY, AS IT RELATES
TO ONGOING GENERAL FUND
DOLLARS. I APPRECIATE THAT
CSCC, OR C.A.R.E., LEANING MOR
ON THE REVENUE ASSOCIATED WIT
THE EXCISE FEE. AND,
RECOGNIZING THAT, I BELIEVE
FROM YOUR PAPER , IT IS NOT A
IF THERE IS FUNDING THERE
THAT WE COULD USE TO ADD MORE
STAFF , TO MAKE SORT OF A BIGGE
BITE ON THE 30% INCREASE IN
CALL-CENTER RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT, I AM WONDERING, IS THERE
PERHAPS SOME WISDOM IN ANOTHER
SLIDE , ASKING THE EXECUTIVE
FOR THEIR GOOD THINKING ON HOW
TO , OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
YEARS , ADDRESS THAT 30%
INCREASE?
>> I THINK THAT IS A SLY THAT
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I THINK
THAT THE SLI WILL PROBABLY NOTE
THAT FUNDING WOULD NEED TO BE
IDENTIFIED , TO CREATE THESE
POSITIONS AND SUPPORT THEM ON
AN ONGOING BASIS. ON THE NEXT
, I WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION
ABOUT WHY THAT IS NOT GOING TO
BE POSSIBLE BY MEANS OF THE 911
EXCISE TASK REVENUES.
>> THANK YOU. I RECALL, YOU
ARE GOING TO GO IN FILL THAT
OUT IN DETAIL. THAT IS A
POTENTIALLY DEPLETING RESOURCE.
THE COSTS GROW FOR THE
POSITIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO
THINK ABOUT A ROADMAP FOR HOW
WE GET TO A BETTER PLACE WITH
THE LARGE AMOUNTS OF MANDATORY
OVERTIME THAT, HISTORICALLY,
CALL TAKERS HAVE HAD TO TAKE,
AND THE IMPACT ON THEIR MORALE.
>> THANK YOU , I WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH YOU
ON THAT AS WELL, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD. WE REALLY APPRECIATE
THERE IS AN INTEREST IN THE
OUTCOME, AND WE LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THAT
SLI.
>> I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT
TECHNOLOGIES, WE DO NOT KNOW YE
THE IMPACT ON STAFFING AND
OUTPUT. SO , WE KNOW THIS IS
GOING TO DELAY. THERE IS A
STRATEGY RIGHT NOW THAT IS HYPE
FOCUSED ON RETENTION, RETAINING
WHAT WE HAVE HEARD I PREFER NO
TO MAKE THE STAFFING
RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL NEXT
YEAR.
>> FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
CALL-CENTER STAFF.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> I WILL BASICALLY RESTATE MY
POSITION, WE NEED TO HAVE
ENOUGH TO ANSWER THE PHONES AND
DISPATCH WHOEVER IS SENT TO
RESPOND TO THE CALL. IF MY
UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT, THER
IS $2.5 MILLION FOR CALL TAKERS
AND DISPATCH. THAT $2.5 MILLIO
INCLUDES $1 MILLION IN CITYWID
ADJUSTMENTS AND $1.1 MILLION FO
IMPROVED STAFFING LEVELS. I JUS
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS
ENOUGH, BECAUSE THE BASIC
SERVICES ARE STILL THE CORE
FUNCTION OF THE DEPARTMENT. AND
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
NOT USING PEANUT BUTTER ON A
FINITE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES. I
AM NOT SUGGESTING AN ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION OPTION, I WANT
SOME ASSURANCE THAT WE ARE
REALLY BEING MINDFUL OF THE
STAFFING NEEDS, THAT WE ARE NO
INCREASING IT AS MUCH AS THE
SLI RESPONSE. AND I MIGHT HAVE
A FOLLOW-UP WITH YOU. OH YEAH,
REMEMBER. HAS IT BEEN
CONTEMPLATED THAT THERE COULD
BE, ONCE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE
C.A.R.E. APARTMENT AND ITS
MISSION, THAT THE CALL VOLUME
WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT
THERE COULD BE RESPONSES IS
THAT GOING TO BE FIGURED OUT
GOING FORWARD?
>> ANN , PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, YOU ARE
LOOKING AT SOME CHANGE REQUESTS
THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE
CSCC ULTIMATE BUDGET PROPOSAL
THAT CAME TO US, VIA CBO. A
FILE THAT WE RECEIVED WAS
MISNAMED AND I WILL FOLLOW-UP
WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
HAVE ONLY THOSE PROPOSALS THAT
ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, IF
I AM RECALLING CORRECTLY, THE
TOTAL COST OF THE THREE
CALL-CENTER POSITION AS
$355,000. I DO NOT HAVE ANY
INFORMATION ON AN ANALYSIS OF
HOW CALL VOLUME MIGHT INCREASE
ONCE PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT
THERE IS THIS NEW RESPONSE
AVAILABLE. I WILL HAPPILY HAND
THAT OVER TO EXECUTIVE STAFF.
>> THANK YOU.'S ANYTHING TO AD
THE
>> ON CALLS COMING IN, WE ARE
LOOKING AT CRISIS, WHEN CALLS
COME IN, HOW DO WE REDIRECT TO
988 , AS APPROPRIATE, THAT IS
NEW. WE MIGHT USE SOME OF OUR
MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL TIM
TO SIT ON THE FLOOR. THAT IS
ONE WEEK A MONTH FOR
RESPONDERS. THERE ARE MANY
BENEFITS. THE BASIS OF THE
RECOMMENDATION IS THE 2016
STUDY. A LOT HAS CHANGED SINC
THAT TIME , I AM VERY DEFENSIV
OF 911. I DO NOT LIKE MANDATORY
OVERTIME. IT IS BAD FOR MORALE
AND EXPENSIVE. WE NEED
SOMETHING ACCURATE TO RECOMMEND
THERE IS A LOT CHANGING RIGHT
NOW. AND THE DEPUTY AT 911, THE
ARE WORKING VERY HARD ON
INNOVATIVE PROCESSES THAT
SHOULD REALLY IMPROVE OUR
ABILITY TO TAKE CALLS. JUST
LOTS OF THINGS CHANGING RIGHT
NOW.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO
ANN.
>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE PRINT TH
LAST CONTEXTUAL BUDGET ISSUE
GOES BACK TO THAT $4.9 MILLION
BUDGET INCREASE. THIS IS
SUPPORTED BY 91 EXCISE TAX
REVENUES , WHICH ARE RESTRICTED
IN WHAT THEY CAN PAY FOR. AS TH
FIRST BULLET POINT SUMMARIZES.
AND THERE IS A LOT MORE DETAIL
ABOUT THESE REVENUES. I WILL
INVITE ANYONE TO FOLLOW UP WIT
ME ON MORE INFORMATION. BEFORE
THIS YEAR , THESE REVENUES WERE
USED ON AN AS-NEEDED BASIS FO
UNBUDGETED SOFTWARE OR TRAININ
NEEDS, OR TO ADDRESS UNDER
BUDGETED SALARY COSTS. IN THE
2023 ADOPTED BUDGET, COUNCIL
FUNDED POSITIONS ON AN ONGOIN
BASIS. THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE
FIRST STEP TOWARD MITIGATING A
LONG TIME STAFFING DEFICIT THA
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT AS AN
UPDATE, NO MORE SUCH STEPS WIL
BE POSSIBLE. STARTING IN 2024,
CSCC WILL ESSENTIALLY SWEEP AL
OF THE ANNUAL 91 EXCISE TAX
REVENUES INTO ITS BASE BUDGET,
WHERE THEY WILL SUPPORT CALL
TAKER POSITION COSTS, IN THE
AGGREGATE, THIS IS ABOUT 32.5
WORTH OF POSITION CAUSE IN 2024
EVERY YEAR IT WILL BE
INCREMENTALLY FEWER. POSITION
COSTS INCREASE AND THIS REVENU
IS NOT EXPECTED TO INCREASE.
THIS USE IS CONSISTENT WITH TH
RESTRICTIONS ON THE FUNDING
SOURCE. THIS IS THE TOTAL
ANNUAL COST, IT IS MUCH MORE
THAN REVENUES WILL PROVIDE, BUT
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT NEW POLIC
FOR THE CSCC. AND THE CSCC 'S
RATIONALE FOR THE SHIFT IS
THAT THIS USE OF $4 MILLION FOR
ONGOING OPERATIONS MEANS THAT
THERE WILL BE AN OFFSETTING $4
MILLION IN AN UNRESTRICTED
GENERAL FUND, MADE TO SUPPORT
THE DEPARTMENT'S GROWTH. $4
MILLION ON THIS SIDE, $4
MILLION ON THIS SIDE. BUT IT
IMPLICITLY MAKES AN ASSUMPTION
ABOUT COUNCIL 'S FUTURE BUDGET
PRIORITIES. I WILL ALSO ADD, TH
2024 BUDGET PROPOSAL INCLUDES
ONE-TIME USE OF $900,000 OF
EXCISE TAX REVENUE ACCOUNT
BALANCE , THIS RESOURCE WILL NO
BE AVAILABLE IN 2025. THIS
CONTRIBUTES DIRECTLY TO THE
OVERALL 2025 GENERAL FUND
IMBALANCE THAT WAS THE SUBJECT
OF THE PRESENTATION ON
WEDNESDAY. THE CONVERSATION
BEFORE THE BREAK ALSO IDENTIFIE
ALL THE WAYS THAT THE NEW
DEPARTMENT COULD EXPAND IN THE
FUTURE, INCREASING SERVICE TO
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. AND THA
EXPANSION, TOO, IS 100%
CONTINGENT UPON THE AVAILABILIT
OF SUSTAINABLE FUNDS.
>> OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ?
>> JUST A CLARIFICATION, ANN,
I WAS REFERRING TO PAGE 154 IN
THE C.A.R.E. DEPARTMENT, IT
SAYS INCREASED BUDGET FOR
INCREASED STAFF LEVELS, $1.1
MILLION, SO , YOU MENTIONED
BEFORE, THAT WAS NOT AN APPROVE
CHANGE OR SOMETHING. BUT THAT
IS IN THERE. MAYBE WE CAN FOLLO
UP AND MAKE SURE HOW MANY
POSITIONS THAT WOULD COVER. SO
THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE THERE
ARE PEOPLE WHO ANSWER THE
PHONES.
>> I WILL, I WILL DO THAT. THAN
YOU.
>> THANKS.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON
THAT? I AM NOT SEEING ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR CARRYING OVER
ANOTHER 25 MINUTES. I AM SORRY
YOU HAD TO WAIT THROUGH THE
RECESS, FOLKS WHO WERE ON THE
LINE EARLIER. IF THERE IS
NOTHING ELSE , WE WILL SAY THAN
YOU TO OUR CENTRAL STAFF AND
EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN
PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND WE
WILL GO RIGHT INTO THE LAST ITE
ON OUR AGENDA. LET'S GO DIRECTL
INTO SPD AND WE WILL GO ON. I
MENTIONED WE WOULD COME BACK TO
THAT THIS AFTERNOON, BUT INSTEA
OF INSERTING HERE, LET'S
CONTINUE WITH THE FLOW AND THE
THEME OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND GO
RIGHT IN THE. MADAM CHAIR?
MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE
CALL, OR READ INTO THE RECORD,
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
>> AGENDA ITEM THREE, THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> OKAY, WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, W
HAVE GREG DOSS HERE WITH US,
IN ADDITION TO ALY PENNUCCI, OU
DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. I
ADDITION TO GREG DOSS, FOR
DEPARTMENT-LEVEL QUESTIONS, WE
HAVE CHIEF 27 AND ANGELA SOCCI
FROM THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, AND WE HAVE ANGELA
SOCCI , AND THE TIM BURGESS
DEPUTY MAYOR. AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I INVIT
YOU TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER
TO CENTRAL STAFF.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, I DO NOT
WANT TO START ON A DOWN NOTE ,
BUT I'M GOING TO. GENERAL
VIOLENT CRIME HAS BEEN THE
LOWEST IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2021,
WE ARE ALL TOO AWARE THAT
HOMICIDES AND SHOTS FIRED ARE
UP ALREADY, EXCEEDING ALREADY
LAST YEAR'S RATES, LAST YEAR
WAS ALREADY A HEARTBREAKING
RECORDBREAKER, WITH 57 DEBTS I
2022, COMPARED TO 63 HOMICIDES
THIS YEAR. AS DEPUTY MAYOR TI
BURGESS' NOTES, ALTHOUGH BLACK
INDIVIDUALS ONLY MAKE UP 6.8%
OF THE POPULATION IN SEATTLE,
THEY ACCOUNT FOR 52.5% OF TOTA
HOMICIDE VICTIMS. AND 55.6%
OF NONFATAL SHOOTING VICTIMS.
AND I KNOW THAT WE ALL AGREE
WITH MAYOR HARRELL, ADDRESSING
CRIME DISPROPORTIONATELY
AFFECTING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
THAT IS IMPERATIVE. AS A
REMINDER TO THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
WITH THE UPCOMING DISCUSSION ,
ABOUT SPD STAFFING, THE COUNCI
HAS FUNDED HIRING BONUSES AND
FULLY FUNDED THE SPD HIRING
PLANS IN 2021, 2022, AND 2023.
NEVERTHELESS, FUNDING IS NOT
SOLVING THE HIRING AND RETENTIO
CHALLENGES YET. NOT HERE, NOT I
OTHER CITIES. WE MIGHT SEE
GAINS. WE HAVE SOME BRIGHT
SPOTS COMING OUT OF , OUT OF ,
OUT OF HIRING . THE POLICE
EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM REPORT
, IT REPORTED A COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO , MORE THAN 500 OFFICERS
FROM 2019 TO 2021 , RESIGNATION
IN THOSE LARGE DEPARTMENTS
INCREASED BY 43% AND
DEPARTMENTS WITH MORE THAN 500
OFFICERS, IN THAT SAME TIME
PERIOD, 2021 TO 2021,
RETIREMENT INCREASED BY 24%.
AND IN THOSE SAME SIZED
DEPARTMENTS, HIRING DECREASED
BY 5%. A NEW STUDY OUT OF THE
SAME ORDER, THE EXECUTIVE
RESEARCH FORUM, SHOWED THAT
HIRING SEEMS TO BE PICKING UP A
AGENCIES REPORTED HIRING MORE
SWORN OFFICERS THAN IN PREVIOUS
YEARS. AGENCIES ARE STILL
LOSING OFFICERS FASTER THAN
THEY CAN HIRE THEM. TOTAL
STAFFING IS CONTINUING TO
DECLINE AND RESIGNATIONS ARE
DECREASING AND THE RESPONDING
AGENCIES REPORT NEARLY 50% MORE
RESIGNATIONS IN 2022 THAN
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, IN 2019.
THEY SERVE AS A VITAL FUNCTION
IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY NETWORK,
RESPONDING TO THE MOST DANGEROU
CALLS, PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON
THE LINE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE
RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. IN
POLICING IS CHANGING, SEATTLE
IS ON THE FRONT LINES OF THAT
CHANGE. BUILDING A POLICE
DEPARTMENT OF GUARDIANS, NOT
WARRIORS. AND MY OFFICE HAS
BEEN PARTICIPATING IN SOME OF
THE MICRO -COMMUNITY POLICING
PLAN DIALOGUES. AND HAVE MET
RECRUITS THAT MY STAFF REPORT
, TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE ALL
EXCITED TO BE PART OF THAT
CHANGE. THE CHALLENGE OF OUR
CITY IS HOW WE CONTINUE TO
INNOVATE IN POLICING AND POLIC
ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMPROVE
COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS ,
RECOGNIZING THERE IS A NATIONA
POLICE OFFICER SHORTAGE. WE
NEED TO SUPPORT THOSE SWORN
AND UNSWORN, REFINING
RESPONSIBILITIES, SUPPORTING
PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES THAT
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CALLS.
STRETCHING THEM THIN ACROSS THE
CITY. AND WHAT WE HAVE
DISCUSSED IN THIS MORNING
SESSION. WITH THAT, I AM GOING
TO HAND IT OVER TO CENTRAL
STAFF.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH , THAT
ECHOES A REPORT THAT WE SAW
RECENTLY FROM THE WASHINGTON
POST A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT SAYS
GIVEN THAT JURISDICTIONS ACROSS
THIS COUNTRY ARE EXPERIENCING
THE SAME DECREASED LEVEL AND
TURNOVER IN THEIR FORCE, IT
CALLS ON US TO REALLY RETHINK
WHAT WE ARE ASKING OFFICERS TO
DO, WHAT WE NEED TO DO, IT COUL
BE A SUCCESSFUL RECRUITMENT
TOOL, SO THAT PEOPLE ARE
ADDRESSING CRIME VERSUS
SHOWING UP AND HAVING TO
RESPOND TO CALLS THEY DO NOT
HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO
WHEN THERE IS NO LANDING ZONE,
DEFINITELY GOOD, HAND IN GLOVE
WITH THE CONVERSATION WE JUST
HAD THIS MORNING AND I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR PUTTING IN THE
CONTEXT THE WAY IN WHICH THIS
COUNCIL, FOR THE LAST FOUR
YEARS, SUPPORTED THE FULL HIRIN
AND RETENTION AND TRIED TO
ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE UPSTREAM
ISSUES THAT ARE RESULTING IN
PEOPLE INTERACTING IN THE FIRS
PLACE. WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE
THE LEAD, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND TH
CONTEXT SETTING. I REALLY
APPRECIATE CENTRAL STAFF WHO HA
BEEN WORKING WITH US. TO TRY T
RESPOND TO THE NEED FOR THE
ADDITIONAL STRING OF
INVESTMENTS , AND THE TRENDS WE
SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR,
BEFORE I GET GOING, I WANT TO
THANK THE DIRECTOR, ANGELA
SOCCI, FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY
WITH ME. I COULD NOT DO ALL THE
THINGS I DO WITHOUT THE
TRANSPARENCY. SHE IS SO HELPFUL
TO ME UNDERSTANDING THE BUDGET
I WANT TO THANK DEPUTY MAYOR
TIM BURGESS FOR WHAT HE GAVE ,
I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE HAD A CHANC
TO READ IT, IT IS IN THE
APPENDIX ON MY STAFF REPORT.
WITH THAT, I WILL JUMP RIGHT
IN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE WILL
START OUT WITH BIG PICTURE
CHANGES, MOVEMENTS , THERE IS
VERY LITTLE UNSUPPORTED FUNDING
IN THE SPD BUDGET. I WILL
PROVIDE A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW O
THE CHANGES, THE LARGEST
INCREASE IN THE DSL THAT YOU
SEE IS AN INCREASE IN THE CHIEF
OF POLICE DSL. THE EXECUTIVE I
MOVING INTO THIS ANNUAL BUDGET
ABOUT $5.7 MILLION IN
REVENUE-BACKED GRANTS THAT ARE
NORMALLY ACCEPTED AND
APPROPRIATED IN STANDALONE
LEGISLATURE. THIS AD IS ALSO
CONTRIBUTING TO A 5.6% INCREASE
IN THE LEADERSHIP AND
ADMINISTRATION OF LINE. THESE
ARE REVENUE -BACKED , ADDED
GRANTS. NO EFFECT ON THE GENERA
FUND. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
OTHER THINGS GOING ON WITH THE
LEADERSHIP AND ADMINISTRATION
LINE THAT IS GOING UP BY 5.6%.
THAT IS A GENERAL FUND OF $1.3
MILLION, BECAUSE OF PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE POSITIONS THAT WERE
ADDED BY THE COUNCIL AND
EXECUTIVE IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL
BUDGET THIS YEAR. AND THEN,
ALSO, $1.3 MILLION AD FOR
CENTRAL COST ADJUSTMENTS.
REALLY JUST SOME TECHNICAL
STUFF, AND REALLY THE LAST
INCREMENTAL CHANGE , EXTERNAL T
THE BUDGET IS A $1.7 MILLION CU
TO THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA
PROGRAM, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A
44% REDUCTION THERE. AND I AM
BELIEVING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT
THAT THIS MORNING, THERE WAS A
REDUCTION IN SOME REVENUE, THA
PUTS THOSE CAMERAS, IT DID NOT
MATERIALIZE SO THIS REDUCTION
IS A REDUCTION IN THE
APPROPRIATION THAT WOULD HAVE
SUPPORTED THE ADDITION OF NEW
CAMERAS. AGAIN, THAT IS MORE TH
TECHNICAL CORRECTION THAN
ANYTHING. GO AHEAD AND GO TO
THE NEXT SLIDE, CAN WE FLIP
THAT ? THE LAST THING I WAS
GOING TO POINT OUT, IS THAT,
YOU WILL SEE, BETWEEN SOME OF
THESE BSO'S HERE, SOME INTERNA
MOVES THAT WE ARE MAKING. WHAT
IS REALLY GOING ON, THERE IS
ABOUT $8.1 MILLION IN SALARY
SAVINGS THAT SARA NELSON SIX
REALIZING, DUE TO SOME PROBLEM
IT IS HAVING WITH THE STAFFING
PLAN, THAT IS WHAT COUNCILMEMBE
MOSQUEDA AND COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN MENTIONED AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, GOING
DOWN BY 4.8%, AND THE PRECINCTS
OVERALL GOING UP SLIGHTLY.
LASTLY, AND THEN WE WOULD GET T
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
QUESTION, AND THERE IS A
REDISTRIBUTION OF SOME OF THE
SAVINGS FROM THE CRIME
PREVENTION PILOT. THAT IS SORT
OF A BIG PICTURE OF ALL THE
MOVING DOLLARS AND WE WILL GO
INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE SEPARATE
BUDGET ACTIONS, AS WE MOVE
THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. BUT I
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SA
IT SO I WILL STOP FOR QUESTIONS
>> THANK YOU.
>> TOP OF MY HEAD, TURN THE
PAGE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
INCREASE IN TECHNICAL SERVICES.
IT IS COVERED.
>> GREAT. COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN ?
>> CHAIR, IS IT OKAY IF I ASK
A QUESTION ABOUT THIS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA
PROGRAM, YES, WE DID TALK AT
LENGTH ABOUT THIS ON THE
PRESENTATION ABOUT
TRANSPORTATION, AND WE ARE STIL
HAVING CENTRAL STAFF LOOK INTO
THIS FURTHER. I DO THINK
THOUGH, IT IS A POLICY CHOICE
AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHOICE O
THE PART OF THE EXECUTIVE TO DO
THIS TO THE PROGRAM. I DO NOT,
WOULD NOT, PERSONALLY
CHARACTERIZE THAT AS A TECHNICA
CORRECTION. IN TERMS OF THE
REVENUE ESTIMATE, I WOULD BE
VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT
IS UP NEXT WEEK. WITH THE
UPDATED FORECAST, IT IS NOT
CLEAR WHAT THEIR ASSUMPTIONS
WERE AND SO, I KNOW THAT THEY
HAVE A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THIS
PROGRAM NOW. AND THE DOLLAR
AMOUNT MIGHT SEEM SMALL BY THEM
, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ENTIR
BUDGET, IT DOES IMPACT SAFETY
AND IT DOES IMPACT VISION ZERO
HOPEFULLY THE ESTIMATE WILL
BECOME MORE REFINED, PERHAPS
HIGHER NUMBER WHEN IT COMES OUT
THE NEXT WEEK. THEN, WE CAN
MAKE THAT TECHNICAL CORRECTION,
TO INCREASE THE FUNDING,
HOPEFULLY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ? I DO HAVE A QUESTIO
AND I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER
RIGHT NOW , IF WE TRY TO GET
INTO THE CHIEF OF POLICE
DEPARTMENT, THE 8.5% INCREASE.
>> I DO GET INTO SOME OF THE
GRANTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAL
ABOUT. WHAT ADDITIONAL
STAFFING?
>> I REMEMBER LAST YEAR, THAT
LINE ITEM LOOKED RELATIVELY
LARGE AS WELL, IT WAS DUE IN
SHIFTS, HOW EACH LEADERSHIP
PERSON WAS BEING CATEGORIZED IN
THE SPD DEPARTMENT. I WONDERED
IF THAT WAS A CONTINUATION THA
YOU HAD INITIATED LAST YEAR AS
WELL , OR IF IT IS DUE TO THE
GRANTS THAT YOU WILL BE FUNDING
?
>> IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE ENDORSED AND THE PROPOSED.
THE DIFFERENCES WERE BETWEEN
THE ADOPTED AND THE ENDORSED.
NOTHING CHANGED , NOTHING
CHANGED AT ALL OVER THIS LAST
YEAR THAT WOULD AFFECT THE
8.5%, THAT IS THE ADDITION OF
THE GRANTS AND THE THINGS THAT
HAPPEN IN THIS LAST BUDGET. SO
WE CAN GO AHEAD -- I HAVE
ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE 1.7%
INCREASE. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT
SLIDE. I AM GOING OUT OF ORDER
NOW AND I AM STARTING WITH
ISSUE NUMBER THREE IN MY ISSUE
PAPER, AND I AM DOING THAT,
BECAUSE I REALIZE THAT
EVERYTHING IN THIS DEPARTMENT
IS REALLY FLOWING FROM SWORN
STAFF. YOU PREFACED THE
PRESENTATION WITH THEIR COMMENT
SO, WE ARE GOING TO START HERE
AND MOVE FORWARD. AS YOU CAN
SEE , IN THE TABLE HERE, IN THE
VERY LAST ROW, THE 2024 PLAN,
THE DEPARTMENT PROJECTS THAT IT
WILL HIRE 105 , I'M SORRY, IT
WILL HIRE 120 OFFICERS . AND
THAT IT WILL SEPARATE 105
OFFICERS IN 2024. AND THAT WIL
BE A NET ADD OF 15 OFFICERS FO
A TOTAL , TRAINED FORCE OF
1023. AND , AS YOU CAN SEE IN
THE ROW ABOVE IT, THE 2023
PROJECTED ROW , THAT IS , THAT
WAS ORIGINALLY THE SAME. THIS
TIME, A YEAR AGO, THEY WERE
HOPING TO HIRE 120, HAVE 15
NET, AND UPDATED, IT IS NOT
LOOKING THAT GOOD , IT IS
LOOKING LIKE 173 HIRED, AND A
NET DECREASE OF 27. GO AHEAD
AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. EVE
IF SPD IS SUCCESSFUL AND CAN
HIRE, IN 2024, A NET OF 15 NEW
THEN THE STAFFING PICTURE IS NO
GOING TO LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT.
YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CHART, IN
QUEUE FOR, 2023, THE DEPARTMENT
IS HEADING , FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS, THAT POP BLUE LINE, A
ABOUT 1020 , IF THEY ACHIEVE TH
STAFFING PLAN, THEY WILL BE
SITTING AT 1023. NOT A WHOLE LO
OF DIFFERENCE , IF THEY GET THE
15 NEW OFFICERS. YOU MAY BE
WONDERING, BECAUSE I JUST TOLD
YOU THAT THEY ARE DOWN BY 27,
PROJECTED TO BE DOWN BY 27 THIS
YEAR. HOW CAN THEY EVEN BE FLAT
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY
ARE HOPING, NEXT YEAR, AS PART
OF THEIR STAFFING PLAN, THAT
120 THAT THEY WANT TO HIRE TO
GET THOSE RECRUITS AND THOSE
LATERALS. THE LATERALS, THOSE 3
LATERALS PLUG-IN IMMEDIATELY.
UNLIKE RECRUITS, THEY CAN PLUG
IN THOSE LATERALS DIRECTLY INT
911 CALLS. THEY BECOME
FULLY-TRAINED OFFICERS, THEY GO
RIGHT INTO THE BLUE LINE AND
THEY CAN HOLD IT STRAIGHT. IF
THE DEPARTMENT CAN GET THOSE 30
LATERALS, THAT CAN SORT OF HOL
THEM IN A STRAIGHT POSITION
NEXT YEAR. I WILL STOP AND ASK
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. SO, GO AHEAD AND MOVE
TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SWITCHING
GEARS , TALKING A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THIS YEAR. SO FAR, THIS
YEAR THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT
THROUGH THE THIRD QUARTER, SPD
IS GETTING PRETTY GOOD AT
PREDICTING SEPARATIONS. THROUG
THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR,
WE HAVE SEEN A STABILIZATION I
OFFICERS LEAVING THE
DEPARTMENT. FEWER OFFICERS ARE
LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT
UNEXPECTEDLY. AND WE ARE IN A
CASE WHERE OFFICER SEPARATION
ARE STABILIZING. SPD HAD
PROJECTED 72, AND THEY REALIZE
77. THEY WERE ONLY FIVE OFF.
THAT IS PRETTY GOOD. I THINK YO
WILL REMEMBER THAT LAST YEAR, I
WAS A LOT MORE THAN FIVE, THE
BAD NEWS IS, IN THE SAME PERIOD
SPD HAS BEEN MISSING ITS HIRIN
GOAL, THEY MISSED BY 36. THEY
HAD PLANNED ON 82, THEY ACTUALL
GOT 46, NOW, WITHIN THE HIRING
GOAL, THERE IS SORT OF A NUANCE
THAT ARE, WHERE THEY REALLY
STRUGGLED, THAT WAS IN HIRING
LATERALS. THEY HAD HOPED TO
HIGHER THIS YEAR, 30 LATERALS,
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE
ONLY ABLE TO HIRE SIX. SO, THA
HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR SPD.
SO, MOVING TO HOW THAT
TRANSLATES -- WELL, LET ME STOP
AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY
QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON.
OKAY? MOVING ON TO SALARY
SAVINGS THEN. HOW THAT
TRANSLATES TO SALARY SAVINGS.
AS THE DEPARTMENT MISSES
TARGETS, VACANCIES ARE NOT
FILLED, THE SALARY SAVINGS FROM
THOSE VACANCIES BEGINS TO ADD U
OVER THE YEAR. AND, AS THAT
HAPPENS, THE DEPARTMENT GETS
MORE AND MORE SALARY SAVINGS.
THEY THINK THAT THIS YEAR, THE
TOTAL WILL ADD UP TO ABOUT $4.
MILLION. THE NEXT YEAR, THOSE
VACANCIES WILL BE OPEN FOR THE
ENTIRE YEAR. AND SO, THE VALUE
OF THOSE SAVINGS IS GOING TO G
UP TO ABOUT $8.1 MILLION. SO
THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE MONEY
NEXT YEAR. SO, WE ARE GOING TO
TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT
HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO
USE THE $8.1 MILLION IN SAVING
NEXT YEAR. WE WANT TO TRACK IT
ALL BACK, THE REASON THEY HAVE
THAT $8.1 MILLION , THE
CHALLENGES THEY HAVE HAD , IT I
MOSTLY HIRING NEW POSITIONS. I
IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT W
HAVE BEEN SEEING. THE ABILITY T
ATTRACT OFFICERS, RATHER THAN
RETAIN . I THINK THAT THERE IS
A QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR.
>> GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> THE $8.1 MILLION, IS THAT
INCLUSIVE OF THE BIENNIUM, IS
IT INCLUSIVE OF THE $4.5
MILLION?
>> YES, IT IS, THAT IS THE
SAVINGS THIS YEAR, THEY ARE
GOING TO USE THAT TO APPLY TO
THE OVERTIME PROBLEM THAT WE AR
GOING TO TALK ABOUT, AND THEN
THE YEAR WILL START OVER AGAIN
NEXT YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, ALL OF
THE VACANT POSITIONS THEY HAVE
SOME OF THE ONES THAT THEY DID
NOT FILL THIS YEAR, THOSE WILL
BE WORTH $8.1 MILLION.
>> SO, IT IS NOT INCLUSIVE. THE
ARE SEPARATE NUMBERS.
>> SEPARATE NUMBERS, THE SAME
POSITIONS.
>> THEY ARE INCLUSIVE OF THE
POSITIONS, NOT AS THE DOLLARS.
PERFECT. THAT IS SOMETHING I
NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND. THERE IS
A PROPOSAL IN THIS BUDGET FOR
BOTH HOW TO SPEND THE $4.5
MILLION THAT HAS BECOME
AVAILABLE, AND THEN OF COURSE,
AS WELL AS THE PROPOSAL FOR HOW
TO SPEND THE $8.1 MILLION THAT
WILL BECOME AVAILABLE IN 2024,
FOR JUST THOSE POSITIONS, THAT
DOES NOT DEAL WITH IF THEY DO
NOT MEET THE TARGETS FOR 2024.
>> I THINK THAT IS RIGHT. THEY
ARE NOT REALLY MAKING A
PROPOSAL FOR THIS YEAR, THEY AR
JUST GOING TO DO IT, AND THE
COUNCIL DROPPED THE PROVISO OVE
SALARY SAVINGS AND IT
AUTHORIZED THE DEPARTMENT, IT
AUTHORIZES THE DEPARTMENT TO YO
SALARY SAVINGS FOR OVERTIME, AN
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO
DO.
>> AMENDMENT TO THE PROVISO,
ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT THE
PROVISO ALWAYS ALLOWS FOR IT,
DON'T YOU THINK? OKAY. ALL
RIGHT, SO, YOU ARE GOING TO GE
TO THE USE OF THOSE, OF THOSE
FUNDS NEXT, RIGHT?
>> YES. FLIP THE SLIDE ,
PLEASE. ACTUALLY, NOT NEXT.
FIRST, I AM GOING TO COME BACK
TO THE STAFFING. I WILL COME
BACK TO THE ESTIMATE ON THE 30
LATERALS. WE MENTIONED THAT 30
LATERALS WAS THE PLAN. WE
MENTIONED THAT THEY DID NOT
MEET THIS YEAR, IN FACT, IT FEL
CONSIDERABLY SHORT, INSTEAD OF
30, THEY ARE PROJECTING SIX. AS
YOU LOOK AT THE STAFFING PLAN
NEXT YEAR, THIS IS PURELY FROM
ANALYTICAL STANDPOINT , ONLY
LOOKING AT HOW HISTORY OF
RECRUITING LATERALS HAS
HAPPENED , ONE COULD SAY, IT
HAD THE SAME PROBLEM NEXT YEAR
THE COUNCIL COULD SAY, REDUCE
THE FUNDING FOR LATERALS BY SOM
AMOUNT. LET'S SAY 12 LATERALS
AND SAY, SPD IS NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO HIRE THOSE LATERALS.
THEREFORE, WE WILL REDUCE THE
FUNDING FOR HIRING, REDUCE IT
BY $1 MILLION. I PUT THIS OVER,
NOT AS AN OPTION THAT I AM
ADVOCATING BUT REALLY AN
ANALYTICAL OPTION, LOOKING AT
THE BUDGET AND THE NUMBERS, ON
MIGHT ASK THAT QUESTION.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ?
>> HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE
NUMBER 12 FEWER LATERALS?
>> WHAT IS THE QUESTION?
>> HOW MANY FEWER DID THEY HIR
IN 2023 THAN ANTICIPATED?
>> 22.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
>> WELCOME TO THE DAIS, DO YOU
HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO CONTEX
HERE?
>> JUST A LITTLE CONTEXT, WE HA
A 127 LATERALS APPLY FOR THIS
JOB. AND WE HAVE ONLY HIRED
WHAT GREG HAS NOTED , THAT
AMOUNT. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH A
BACKGROUND CHECK AND TECHNICALL
SHOULD NOT HAVE AN ISSUE. WHEN
WE ACTUALLY DO A THOROUGH
BACKGROUND , IT IS AN ISSUE,
NEXT YEAR, THE LATERALS MAY NOT
HAVE THAT SAME ISSUE. AND SO
WE ARE ACCUMULATED A LOT MORE
LATERALS THAN WE HAVE DONE IN
THE PAST. IT COULD BE JUST THE
TYPE OF CANDIDATE THAT WE HAD
THIS YEAR, COMPARED TO WHAT WE
MIGHT HAVE NEXT YEAR, SO I
REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
PEOPLE KNOW THAT NUANCE. THAT W
HAVE ACTUALLY HAD QUITE A FEW
LATERAL APPLICANTS. IT IS JUST
THAT THEY HAVE NOT MET OUR
STANDARDS FOR WHAT WE WANT IN
OUR POLICE OFFICERS, THIS YEAR.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF.
THANKS TO COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD. NOW, COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON ?
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT
ELIMINATING THIS BECAUSE WE
WANT TO PRESERVE OUR ABILITY TO
HIRE LATERALS. I WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW THE
RECRUITMENT PLAN IS ROLLING OU
AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE NEXT
PHASE, ET CETERA , BECAUSE IT
COULD BE THAT WE ACTUALLY DO
ATTRACT THE TARGET NUMBER OF
LATERALS. NOW IS NOT THE TIME,
I BELIEVE, TO BE REDUCING
MONEY, WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO GO
AFTER THE BIGGEST COST SAVER T
BUILD OUR RANKS BACK UP. THAT
WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION,
AND I DO NOT KNOW, I DON'T SEE
THE ISSUE IDENTIFICATION HERE
FOR THE PROVISO AGAIN , BUT I
DOES SEEM AS THOUGH SOME OF THI
STAFFING CONVERSATION COULD
LEAD TO THAT, THAT , THAT EFFOR
AGAIN. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY,
LAST YEAR, I PULL THAT UP FOR
AN INDIVIDUAL VOTE. AND
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN AND I
VOTED AGAINST IT AND WE NEEDED
TO SPEND THAT MONEY TO LIFT TH
PROVISO AND SPEND IT ON
OVERTIME, THE LESS OFFICERS WE
HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL, THERE
COULD BE OTHER NEEDS THAT COME
UP, JUST PLUGGING RIGHT NOW,
THAT I HOPE WE DO NOT HAVE TO
ENGAGE IN THAT EFFORT AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> JUST BECAUSE IT WAS RAISED
I DO INTEND TO SUPPORT THE
PROVISO, IT IS A GOOD PROPOSAL
I HAVE NO PROBLEM INTRODUCING
LEGISLATION TO , TO AMEND THE
PROVISO TO ALLOW FOR SAVINGS TO
BE USED ON JOINT PRIORITIES OF
THE COUNCIL AND POLICE
DEPARTMENT, AND NEXT YEAR, THE
COUNCIL MAY WANT TO ELIMINATED
ALTOGETHER, I WANT IT IN PLACE
SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT
DECISION.
>> WHAT IS THE DEBATE?
>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW
IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS, YOU ARE WELCOME. BUT
AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THIS
BACK-AND-FORTH.
>> LEGISLATIVELY , CAN THE
SALARY SAVINGS ONLY BE USED ON
OVERTIME ? DOES THAT HAVE THE
FORCE OF LAW NECESSARY TO AVOI
DOING ANOTHER PROVISO?
>> IS THAT A QUESTION FOR
CENTRAL STAFF?
>> ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO
ANSWER. BUT I MEAN, ANYBODY WH
WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER. ULTIMATEL
IT COMES DOWN TO WHETHER THAT
WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE OPTION.
I AM PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE.
>> WE COULD DEVISE ANY LIMIT
THAT WE WANT AND THOSE LIMITS
WILL HAVE FORCE OF LAW. AND I
WILL TURN IT OVER TO CENTRAL
STAFF.
>> THANK YOU AND YES, I THIN
WHAT YOU SAID, IT IS EXECUTIV
INTENT. BUT , THERE IS NO, THEY
DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT, THE
HAVE FLEXIBILITY, SO THAT THE
PROVISO WOULD BE THE MECHANISM
TO MAKE IT LEGALLY REQUIRED TO
ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN
PURPOSES. AS COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD MENTIONED, IT COULD BE
ALLOWING FOR THE USE OF
OVERTIME. THAT WAS WHAT WAS
MODIFIED, IT WAS NOT FULLY
LIFTED, I BELIEVE THAT IT HAD
BEEN EXPANDED TO ALLOW THE USE
OF SALARY SAVINGS TO INCLUDE
OVERTIME AND INVESTMENT IN
ANOTHER AREA. IT IS ESCAPING
ME, AT THIS POINT. THE
TECHNOLOGY, I THINK, ON MY END.
YEAH. YEAH.
>> FOLLOW-UP QUESTION?
>> NO, SORRY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
THANK YOU FOR SAVING THE
DELIBERATIONS FOR LATER. I WANT
TO KEEP US ON TRACK WITH ERRING
IDEAS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR
RECEPTIVITY TO THAT. NOW,
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA ,
WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE
I THINK THAT IT IS MORE OBVIOU
NOW THAN IN YEARS PAST, IF THER
IS SAVINGS FROM A STAFFING
PLAN, IT IS GOING TO BE NEEDED
FOR OVERTIME. I WANT TO BE SURE
THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS THE
FLEXIBILITY TO USE IT FOR
OVERTIME IN 2024, UNTIL STAFFIN
GETS UP TO THE LEVEL WHERE WE
MIGHT WANT STRICTER PROVISOS I
THE FUTURE, WHEN WE ARE FULLY
STAFFED. AND IF THERE ARE
SAVINGS FROM THINGS , THE
COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO LEAN INTO
THAT RIGHT NOW IT IS PRETTY
OBVIOUS IT WOULD PERMIT TO
OVERTIME. WE DO NOT WANT TO
MICROMANAGE THAT OVER $1
MILLION. MAYBE THERE IS A WAY O
WORDING ANY PROVISO, IF THERE
NEEDS TO BE ONE. IDEALLY, THERE
IS NOT ONE, BUT I THINK HAVING
THAT DISABILITY TO OVERTIME, I
WOULD SUPPORT THAT, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ?
>> I APPRECIATE THE EXPRESSION
THAT NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR
POLICY DEBATE. BUT THIS IS THE
BUDGET. THERE IS NO SPECIFIC DA
THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THI
IN PUBLIC, IN OPEN SESSION,
GOING FORWARD. I AM SIGNALING
THAT I RECOGNIZED , YOU KNOW,
YOU ARE NOT WANTING A POLICY
DEBATE BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHERE
ELSE WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS
IN A MANNER THAT IS TRANSPARENT
TO THE PUBLIC, SO IT DOES NOT
HAVE THE BE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS
OR SOMETIME WHEN THERE ARE
EXPERTS IN THE ROOM. THANKS.
>> DON'T WORRY, THERE WILL BE
PLENTY OF TIME FOR CONVERSATION
THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND WE
DEFINITELY APPRECIATE CENTRAL
STAFF ANALYSIS. WE WILL CONTINU
TO HAVE SEVERAL STAFF ANALYSIS
AND THE EXECUTIVES AND CHIEFS
PROVIDING FEEDBACK AS WE
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
DELIBERATIONS, BUT THE ACTUAL
POLICY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE
ABOUT AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA
WILL BE CONCLUDED TWO WEEKS .
THEN WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER CHANC
FOR AMENDMENTS COMING UP
ANOTHER TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT.
BEFORE ANYTHING IS FINALIZED, W
WILL BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO
THIS. I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE
HAVE A GOOD, ROBUST DISCUSSION
THAT OUR PROCESS, AS WELL, IS
INTENDED TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT
FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, YOU
KNOW? AS A CITY BUDGET
DIRECTOR, WHEN WE HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS IS ALS
A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAV
THE EXECUTIVES OF BOTH
EXECUTIVE BRANCHES, IN THE
BRIEFING, TO PROVIDE THESE
KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS, AND I
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS
INTENDED TO DRAW OUT TECHNICAL
ASPECTS, VERSUS THE DEBATE, PE
SE, WHICH WE WILL HAVE PLENTY O
TIME TO DEBATE AND DISCUSS
LATER. MORE TO COME, ON THE
STRUCTURE OF HOW WE STRUCTURE
THESE CONVERSATIONS, IN THE
FUTURE. DO NOT WORRY, THERE WIL
BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR MORE
CONVERSATION ON THIS AND OTHER
TOPICS. I WANT TO GET BACK TO
GREG DOSS, HE WAS WALKING
THROUGH THE AGENDA. I WANT ONE
CONCLUDING THOUGHT ON THIS. I D
NOT HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT
PREFERENCES ON THE OPTIONS
LISTED HERE. RECOGNIZING THAT
CENTRAL STAFF IS LISTING
OPTIONS, NOT RECOMMENDATIONS,
AND SOME OF THE COLLEAGUES HAVE
ALREADY WEIGHED IN ON THE
PREFERENCES. AND I APPRECIATE
YOU WAITING FOR COUNCIL
DELIBERATIONS. CENTRAL STAFF
FLAGGED HIRING SHORTAGES , WE
TALKED ABOUT THAT, AS THE
CONVERSATION STARTED, BUT REALL
THIS IS A NATIONAL TREND, A
RECENT SURVEY FORUM SAID THAT
, OUT OF 224 LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES THAT RESPONDED TO A
RECRUITMENT SURVEY , 69%, NEARL
70%, INDICATED THAT THE NUMBE
OF APPLICANTS HAD DECLINED IN
THE LAST TWO YEARS. I THINK IT
IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO PUT THAT
WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS IN TH
NATIONAL CONTEXT. AND THAT THE
DEPARTMENT IS VERY WELL AWARE
OF THIS. AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO
CENTER THIS ON THE CONVERSATIO
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, WE WOUL
BE REMISS NOT TO COMMENT ON THE
NUMBER OF INCIDENCES THAT HAVE
BEEN BROUGHT TO LIGHT JUST THIS
YEAR, WITHIN 26. I KNOW THAT I
SOMETHING THAT THE MAYOR AND
THE CHIEF TAKE SERIOUSLY. THIS
YEAR THERE IS A LOT MORE TO DO
TO ENSURE THAT THE RECRUITMENT
IS TARGETING SPECIFICALLY THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO
SURVIVE, IT IS NOT JUST
INCREASING THE PAY TO GET MORE
PEOPLE TO COME, IT IS ABOUT
FINDING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO
FOCUS FOR THAT PUBLIC SAFETY
DIRECTIVE THAT WE ARE CONTINUIN
TO EVOLVE, SO THAT WE CAN
ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES AND
PREVENT CRIME. I WANT TO NOTE ,
DESPITE SOME OF THE CONFUSING
RHETORIC, CONTROVERSY,
MISINFORMATION, FROM LAST YEAR
AND AS THE CHAIR OF PUBLIC
SAFETY NOTED IN HER OPENING
COMMENTS. THE FULL RECRUITMENT
AND RETENTION PLAN HAS BEEN
FUNDED EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST
THREE YEARS, AND THE 80
POSITIONS THAT WERE AGGREGATED
IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR WERE NO
MISSED, NOTING THAT WE ARE NOT
ACCOMPLISHING HIRING GOALS THAT
WE SET OUT TO DO LAST YEAR, WE
CONTINUE TO FALL SHORT OF
PROJECTIONS AND I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE
IDENTIFYING OPPORTUNITIES TO
MOVE INTO SOLUTIONS THAT HELP
PREVENT CRIME AND ALSO SUPPORT
THE CALL FOR THE FULL
RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT , TO
BE INVESTED IN, AS WE HAVE DONE
YEAR OVER YEAR. I APPRECIATE
THE CENTRAL STAFF MEMO THAT
EXPOSES ALL OF THESE ITEMS AND
I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO
RESPOND TO THESE NATIONAL
TRENDS. BEFORE WE CONCLUDE
TODAY, I WILL TRY TO FIND THAT
WASHINGTON POST ARTICLE THAT
TALKS ABOUT THE OTHER STRATEGIE
, BESIDES JUST PUTTING MORE
MONEY INTO RECRUITMENT, THAT
HAVE REALLY SHOWN WAYS TO BRING
IN MORE OFFICERS TO RESPOND TO
MORE MODERN POLICING
STRUCTURES. I KNOW THAT IS VERY
TOP OF MIND GIVEN THE LAST
CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AND IN
THE EARLIER SESSION. LET'S KEEP
GOING.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR,
BEFORE I SWITCH TO THE NEXT
SLIDE. I HAVE TO SAY, CENTRAL
STAFF CAN DO THE MATH, I WAS
JUST LOOKING AT THE WRONG
NUMBER. IT IS 24, I THINK, THEI
LATERAL GOAL. MONEY FOR, IT IS
24, I DON'T KNOW WHY I SAID 22.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, JUST
FOR CONTEXT. IT SAYS THESE
SAVINGS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE
IF COUNCILMEMBERS EXPERIENCED
FEWER SEPARATIONS. I DO ASK
THE DEPARTMENT FOR FEEDBACK AND
I AM VERY HAPPY THAT THE CHIEF
WAS ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS
AND TALK ABOUT THE LATERALS AN
HOW THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN
ABLE TO HIRE . THE REASONS THE
DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO
HIRE THEM, THAT IS INFORMATION,
JUST BECAUSE OF THE LOGISTICS,
I DID NOT GET THAT. THAT IS VER
IMPORTANT TO THE ANALYSIS AS
WELL. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE
NUMBERS ARE NOT EVERYTHING. THE
INFORMATION FROM THE CHIEF, I
HAD IT, IT DID NOT WORK OUT.
AND I AM HAPPY THAT WE CAN MOVE
ALONG NOW. SO , WE HAD TALKED
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE $4.5
MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS THAT
SPD HAS THIS YEAR , THE $8.1
MILLION IN SALARY SPENDING THAT
THEY HAVE NEXT YEAR. THE NEXT
ISSUE I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT
IS A CONTEXTUAL ISSUE FOR 2024.
THEY HAVE AN OVERTIME SPENDING
ISSUE THIS YEAR, I THINK, AS
FOLKS ARE AWARE. AND , AS YOU
CAN SEE IN THIS CHART, THIS
CHART COMPARES OVERTIME SPENDIN
IN 2022 , TO 2023, IN THE
BIGGEST CATEGORIES OF SPENDING.
YOU HAVE EVERYTHING FROM
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS TO
PATROL INVESTIGATIONS. IT IS
REALLY A COMBINATION OF THOSE
WHO CALL IN SICK NOT ABLE TO
MAKE THEIR SHIFT. SO THEY ARE
BACKFILLED ON OVERTIME, TO THE
FOLKS WHO NEED TO GET CALLED IN
TO MAKE MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS
SO, IT IS THE CASE THAT SPD I
RUNNING OVER ON OVERTIME THIS
YEAR. AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK
SHORTLY ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING
TO MITIGATE THAT PROBLEM. NEXT
YEAR, HOWEVER, WELL, LET'S
STICK WITH THIS. THEY ARE GOIN
TO DO THAT BY APPROXIMATELY
$9.4 MILLION, THE CURRENT
BUDGET, THEY ARE PROJECTING
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND
MORE, $9.3 MILLION MORE FOR A
TOTAL OF $40.6 MILLION BY THE
END OF THIS YEAR. AND ONE OF TH
THINGS THAT I WANT TO CAUTION
YOU WANT, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING
AT THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IS
THAT THE SPORTING EVENTS
COLUMN, IT IS REALLY HIGH. I
REFLECTS A $1.8 MILLION
REIMBURSABLE EVENT . THE
SPENDING THAT THE DEPARTMENT DI
ON THE MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL
ALL-STAR GAME INCURRED LAST
JULY. THE $1.8 MILLION ,
UNFORTUNATELY THEY ACTUALLY
SPENT A TOTAL OF $3 MILLION ON
THAT GAME. THERE WAS ANOTHER
$1.2 MILLION THAT WAS NOT
REIMBURSABLE. AND THAT IS IN
THE EVENTS COLUMN AND BOTH OF
THOSE BARS ARE LITTLE HIGHER
THAN WHAT THEY MIGHT HAVE
OTHERWISE BEEN, BY ABOUT $3
MILLION, THAT WILL COME INTO
PLAY LATER, WHEN WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT BALANCING NEXT YEAR. THE
LAST THING THAT I WILL LEAVE YO
WITH ON THIS CHART IS TO SAY
THAT, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE
REST OF THIS YEAR, THE PICTURE
WILL CHANGE SLIGHTLY, BECAUSE W
ARE LEAVING THE EVENT SEASON
BEHIND US. YOU MIGHT EXPECT TH
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND SOM
OF THESE OTHER AREAS ARE GOING
TO START GROWING FASTER THAN
THE EVENTS WILL. AND SO, THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SOME OF
THESE THINGS WILL CHANGE. BUT
WHAT WILL NOT CHANGE, YOU CAN
SEE THE 2023 BARS ARE QUITE A
BIT HIGHER THAN 2022. BEFORE I
MOVE ON, I WILL STOP AND ASK IF
THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
ON THIS YEAR'S OVERTIME
SPENDING.
>> I THINK THAT COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD HAS A QUESTION.
>> THE EVENTS , OVERTIME ,
THE SEATTLE CENTER EVENTS ,
HOW DID THEY CONNECT TO
PRE-COVID SPENDING?
>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
>> WITH SPECIFIC DOLLARS, BUT
JUST, GENERALLY , IN YOUR
ONGOING ANALYSIS IN THIS AREA
.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO GET
BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
>> THAT IS TOTALLY FINE. IT IS
INTERESTING, WE HAVE OFTEN
TALKED ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY
TO HAVE SWORN STAFFING , I
WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW
THAT WILL COMPARE.
>> FIRST, LET ME START OFF BY
SAYING, THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR HIGHLIGHTING THE RESEARCH
FOR FOLKS. I AM THE PRESIDENT ,
IT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED EARLIER,
JUST ABOUT ONE MONTH AGO, AND
SO, THE DIRECTION IS REALLY
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
LEADING NATIONALLY IN THIS AREA
SO, THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING
WHAT I HAVE BEEN PART OF, AND
THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THIS
OVERTIME SPENDING IS, IN THE
PREVIOUS YEAR'S , WE HAVE HAD
LOSS OF QUITE A BIT MORE
STAFFING. WE HAVE HAD A VARIET
OF DIFFERENT EVENTS. AND THIS
YEAR, WE HAVE HAD THE PREVIOU
MLB, WE HAVE HAD A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT EVENTS, ALONG WITH
THE LARGE-SCALE CONCERTS THAT
WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE. TAYLOR
SWIFT , YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY.
THAT WAS SOME OF THE BIGGEST
REVENUE GENERATED, OVER THAT
TWO-DAY PERIOD, BEYONC÷ . AND
THERE ARE THINGS WE ARE SEEING
AS THE CITY OPEN BACK UP FROM
COVID RESTRICTIONS. ISSUES THAT
HAVE CHANGED THE DYNAMICS OF
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AR
STAFFING THE EVENTS. PLUS, TH
CAPITOL HILL BLOCK PARTY, WE HA
A MASS SHOOTING. EVEN AT SOME O
THESE EVENTS, WE ARE SEEING THE
POTENTIAL FOR VIOLENCE, EVEN IN
COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT HAPPENED
AT RAINIER BEACH. WE HAD A MASS
SHOOTING. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE STAFFING
ACCORDINGLY. FOR THESE EVENTS,
IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT, BUT
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AR
USING THE RESOURCES THE BEST WE
CAN. WE CAN PROBABLY GO INTO A
LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL FROM THE
PREVIOUS YEARS, AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU, I WANTED TO ADD
SOMETHING. WE HAVE TAKEN A
CLOSER LOOK AT SPECIAL EVENTS,
COMPARING YEAR-OVER-YEAR, BACK
TO 2017, JUST TO GET A SENSE O
WHAT TO EXPECT THIS YEAR AND IN
FUTURE YEARS, WHAT WE ARE SEEIN
AS AN INCREASE FROM 2019 AND
THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT
SPD ARE WORKING. OVERALL, WE
ARE SEEING AN INCREASE. AN
EVENT LIKE MLB, THAT IS
EXCEPTIONAL. WE DO NOT
NECESSARILY PLAN FOR AN EVENT
LIKE THAT EVERY YEAR, WHICH
MAKES THAT EXCEPTIONAL. I WOULD
NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMEND
BUILDING THAT INTO THE BUDGET.
BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
DOING A GOOD JOB OF WHAT TO
EXPECT ON A NORMAL YEAR. THAT I
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WITH
THIS BUDGET.
>> DEPUTY MAYOR TIM BURGESS ?
>> YEAH. I WANT TO JUMP ON
SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST SHARED
BY COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, TW
OR THREE TIMES TODAY YOU HAVE
QUOTED SOMETHING FROM THE POLIC
EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM.
PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST
PRESTIGIOUS PUBLIC POLICY THINK
TANKS IN THE COUNTRY, AROUND
LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE FACT THAT
CHIEF ADRIAN DIAZ WAS ELECTED
PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION,
THE MAYOR IS DELIGHTED AND WE
ALL SHOULD BE, IT JUST SHOWS
THAT OUR CHIEF IS IN FACT ONE O
THE LEADING REFORMERS IN OUR
COUNTRY. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF
HIM.
>> ANGELA, DID YOU HAVE
SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO
ADD?
>> NO, I'M SORRY.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
AND CONGRATULATIONS. IS THERE
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS
SLIDE? I GUESS, ALONG THAT
VEIN, THIS COULD BE FOR CENTRAL
STAFF, THIS COULD BE FOR THE
CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT, IS
THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN
SHARE WITH US, ABOUT THE ONGOIN
INTEREST? I BELIEVE IT IS
SHARED, I KNOW THAT COUNCIL
HAVE EXPRESSED A NUMBER OF
TIMES, IN HELPING TO MOVE
TRAFFIC SAFETY, I KNOW THAT
THERE IS TRAFFIC SAFETY
FUNCTION, ESPECIALLY LARGE
EVENTS, THERE WERE SOME
SHOOTINGS AT SOME OF THESE
EVENTS. IS THERE A WAY FOR
FREEING UP OFFICERS ? WE HAVE
BEEN ENGAGED IN CONVERSATIONS
OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, FOR
EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT MANY OF
THOSE OFFICERS WERE DEPLOYED
TO THE BEYONC÷ CONCERT , AND
GETTING OFFICERS TO THE PLACES
THAT WE NEED TO BE, EVEN OTHER
PLACES LIKE THE CITY. ANYTHING
YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE GENERAL
PUBLIC, TO EVEN HAVE TO BE
WORRYING ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THE
FIRST PLACE ?
>> I BELIEVE, IT IS CLOSE TO
BEING FULLY STAFFED . I THINK
THERE IS JUST AN ADJUSTMENT,
SOME HE WAS PROMOTED TO
SUPERVISOR, WHICH BEEN ENDED UP
WITH A POSITION AT THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT LEVEL. WE HAVE
ACTUALLY BEEN UTILIZING PARKING
ENFORCEMENT TO HELP STAFF THES
EVENTS. WHAT WE HAVE ALSO DONE
IS CREATED WHAT WE REFER TO AS
TIER ONE, TIER TWO , AND TIER
THREE SYSTEM. TIER THREE,
SOMETIMES THEY ARE COMMUNITY
EVENTS OR EVENTS THAT WE DO NO
KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH. WE FOCUS
ON CONTRACTING WITH OUTSIDE
VENDORS. THAT WAY, WE ARE NOT
UTILIZING OUR UN-DUTY RESOURCES
. AND SO, TIER TWO EVENTS, WE
ARE UTILIZING PARKING
ENFORCEMENT, USUALLY ON AN
OVERTIME BASIS , EVEN ON THE
NIGHT THAT YOU MENTIONED, THOS
OFFICERS ARE BEING UTILIZED ,
THEY WOULD NOT BE NECESSARILY
DEPLOYED ON A PATROL SETTING .
THAT IS NEEDING TO BE BALANCED
OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
STILL A CHALLENGE, BY UTILIZING
OFFICERS IN AN OVERTIME BASIS,
WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE,
WHEN WE ARE UTILIZING IT , THAT
IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THEIR
WELLNESS. THEY ARE AUGMENTING
MULTIPLE SHIFTS AND DOING OTHER
THINGS. AND WE ARE TRYING TO
BALANCE THAT OUT DO NOT USE THE
SO MUCH . WHEN PEOPLE SIGN UP
FOR TIER TWO EVENTS, NOT TO
WORK A WHOLE BUNCH OF EVENTS, T
MAKE SURE THAT THEY WANT TIME
OFF, TOO. IT IS A BALANCING ACT
MAKING SURE THAT SOME OF THESE
EVENTS ARE SAFE BUT ALSO MAKIN
SURE THAT THEY ARE STAFFED WITH
PARKING ENFORCEMENT AND
DIFFERENT RESOURCES. EVEN THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
HUSKIES, IF YOU GO TO THOSE
EVENTS, SOME OF THOSE EVENTS
ARE A MIXTURE OF CONTRACT AND
OUTSIDE AGENCIES. THEY ARE USED
FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL. WE ARE VER
LIMITED IN OUR USAGE OF
RESOURCES, COUPLED WITH SOME O
OUR OFFICERS WHO ARE DEPLOYED
ON AN INTERIM-TYPE BASIS AS
WELL.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. W
ARE WORKING THROUGH SOME
BARRIERS HERE. NOW, LET'S KEEP
GOING.
>> LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT
SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, WE ARE GOIN
TO TALK ABOUT, NOW, HOW SPD IS
GOING TO MITIGATE THAT $9.3
MILLION OVERTIME PROCESS. THER
IS A PLAN FOR MITIGATING THE
$9.3 MILLION IN OVERTIME
EXPENDITURES. WE HAVE TALKED
ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF IT , WE
HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE 1.8
MILLION DOLLAR REIMBURSEMENT
THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS GETTING
FOR THE MLB GAME . THAT IS
GOING TO HELP. THERE IS $4.5
MILLION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN
SALARY SAVINGS. THAT IS GOING T
HELP. THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED
THE DEPARTMENT TO SPEND SALARY
SAVINGS ON OVERTIME, VIA THE
AMENDMENT THAT WAS RUN EARLIER
THIS YEAR ON THE SALARY SAVING
PROVISO. AND THE RECRUITMENT
AND RETENTION INITIATIVE IS
GOING TO PROVIDE $624,000 IN
THE SAVINGS. IT IS ESTIMATED
TO HAVE ACCRUED BY THE END OF
THE YEAR. THAT ACTUALLY IS GOOD
NEWS. THE REASON THAT THAT IS
GOOD NEWS, I THINK THE COUNCIL
IS AWARE THAT THE EXECUTIVE HAV
BEEN A BIT SLOW TO SPEND THE
MONEY. THERE WAS A COURSE
CHANGE, A FEW MONTHS AGO, ON
THE MARKETING CONTRACT AND THE
APPROACH WITH ADVERTISING. THAT
CONTRACT HAS NOW BEEN SIGNED.
AND THERE ARE ADS OUT THERE, ON
TELEVISION. AND SO, THE MONEY
IS NOW ESTIMATED TO BE ON ITS
WAY OUT THE DOOR. AND THE
REMAINING ESTIMATED SAVINGS, TH
$624,000 IS PRIMARILY GOING TO
BE LEFT OVER FROM THE HIRING
BONUSES THAT WILL NOT BE GOING
TO OFFICERS, BECAUSE THEY ARE
NOT TELLING THOSE VACANCIES.
AND SO THAT MONEY WILL BE USED
TO HELP WITH THE OVERTIME
CHALLENGE. THERE ARE , THE
DEPARTMENT, IT HAS HAD
CHALLENGES FILLING SOME
POSITIONS . THERE IS GOING TO B
ABOUT UP TO 1 MILLION AND A
HALF IN SAVINGS, IN PEO
SAVINGS, AS THE CHIEF SAYS
THEY HAVE HIRED A DIVISION
DIRECTOR. A COUPLE MANAGERS, AN
THREE SUPERVISORS, AND THEY PUT
OUT AN ADVERTISEMENT IN JANUAR
AND ONE IN AUGUST. BUT THEY HAV
HAD TROUBLE STAYING AHEAD OF
ATTRITION. THEY HAVE ABOUT 22
POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN RIGHT
NOW. AND THEY HAVE A PLAN .
THOSE ARE CREATING VACANCY
DOLLARS. THEY HAVE A PLAN TO
FILL THOSE. THEY DO NOT BELIEV
THEY WILL COMPLETELY FILL THOSE
UNTIL APRIL OF NEXT YEAR. SO
THAT WILL CREATE SALARY SAVINGS
FINALLY, THERE IS GOING TO BE
ABOUT $876,000 IN CIVILIAN
SALARY SAVINGS. THAT IS COMING,
BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN
RELYING ON CIVILIAN SALARY
SAVINGS, TO ADDRESS UNPLANNED ,
EMERGENT ISSUES IN THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS, WITH ACCOUNTS
SUCH AS SEPARATION PAY,
OVERTIME, THINGS THAT I THINK
THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF. AND AS
SOME OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE
SELF-DIRECTED. LIKE THE OFFICER
LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT. THAT
HAS SLOWED DOWN AND THE SELF
CORRECTION HAS CORRECTED. THE
CIVILIAN SALARY SAVINGS IS
GOING TO SHRINK . THERE IS
$876,000 AVAILABLE THIS YEAR.
PROJECTED GOING FORWARD, THAT I
GOING TO SHRINK DOWN. THERE IS
NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
PROJECTED FOR NEXT YEAR. I
LOOKED AT THE POSITIONS THAT
THE DEPARTMENT HAS OPEN, AND
THEY ARE IN THE HIRING PHASE O
THE BACKGROUND PHASE. SO, THE
DEPARTMENT HAS PLANS TO SPEND,
SPEND THAT MONEY. BUT THIS
YEAR, THERE IS LITTLE THAT MAC
SUMMONS LEFT OVER. ALL OF THAT
IS ADDING TOGETHER TO HELP
OFFSET THE OVERAGE. SO, I WIL
STOP THERE AND ASK IF THERE ARE
ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT
REIMBURSEMENT. I FEEL LIKE THIS
ISSUE COMES UP EVERY YEAR. AND
FAIL TO REMEMBER THE FULL ANSWE
HERE. ON THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR
SOME OF THE LARGER EVENTS, ARE
WE GETTING 100% REIMBURSEMENT
FROM THE SPORTS, CONCERT EVENTS
THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE BEING
DEPLOYED TO, CURRENTLY? THAT
$1.8 MILLION?
>> IT IS REALLY A MIX. IF YOU
ARE TALKING ABOUT BIG STADIUM
EVENTS , LIKE THE SEAHAWKS , TH
MARINERS , THEN THE ANSWER IS
YES. WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THE
AND WE PRETTY MUCH GET 100%
REIMBURSEMENT. CONCERTS FOR THA
MATTER, TOO, ANYTHING THAT
HAPPENS AT PLANET BRIDGE. IT IS
WHERE YOU HAVE PERMANENT EVENTS
, WHERE WE HAVE VERY LOW
REIMBURSEMENT RATES, EASILY LES
THEN 25% ACROSS. WE DO NOT HAV
SEPARATE CONTRACTS WITH EVENT
PROMOTERS THAT DO FUN RUNS OR
SPECIAL EVENTS . THEY ARE
INSTEAD CHARGED A PERMIT THE,
THAT IS CAPPED AT $67 AN HOUR
SO, THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE IS
QUITE LOW THERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.
I AM NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS.
>> ALL RIGHT. NOW, LET'S
SWITCH GEARS AND TALK ABOUT TH
OVERTIME PROBLEM IN 2024. I HA
TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS GOING T
BE ABOUT $8.1 MILLION OF
SALARY FUNDING , SALARY SAVINGS
AVAILABLE , IN 2024. AND WE
KNOW THAT THE OVERTIME PROBLEM
IS LIKELY TO REPEAT ITSELF AGAI
NEXT YEAR. WHAT BRUCE HARRELL
SIX IS PROPOSING TO DO, IN THE
2024 BUDGET, AND THIS IS, THIS
IS A MOVE , WITHIN THE MIDYEAR
ADJUSTMENTS THAT THE COUNCIL
HAS BEFORE IT, TO TAKE ABOUT
$3.6 MILLION OF THAT SALARY
SAVINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AN
MOVE IT FROM SALARY SAVINGS INT
ITS OVERTIME LINES. BY DOING
THAT, IT WOULD ADJUST OVERTIME
BUDGET FROM $31.3 MILLION TO
$37.8 MILLION. THE MATH THERE,
THAT KIND OF WORKS NICELY.
BECAUSE, AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER, THEY ARE EXPECTING TO
SPEND ABOUT $40.6 MILLION THI
YEAR. BUT THEY HAD SORT OF AN
OUTSTANDING EVENT WITH THE
BASEBALL GAME BEING A FEW
MILLION DOLLARS. IF YOU TAKE
AWAY THAT BASEBALL GAME AS AN
OUTLIER, YOU GET DOWN TO ABOUT
$37.8 MILLION. SO, IF THERE IS
NO SPENDING ON A BASEBALL GAME
AS AN OUTLIER, THIS IS A RANGE
THAT POTENTIALLY SPD COULD MAKE
OR LIVE WITHIN IF THEY MOVE
$6.3 MILLION INTO THEIR
OVERTIME BUDGET. THEY WOULD
MOVE IT INTO THREE AREAS,
PATROL OPERATIONS AS A BACKFILL
FOR SICK LEAVE AND MINIMAL
STAFFING. CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL
WORK ON VARIOUS INVESTIGATIONS
AND THEN SPECIAL OPERATIONS.
THIS IS THE SMALLEST AMOUNT, FO
SPECIAL EVENTS . THE DISPARITY,
THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE
$731,000 AND THE HIGHER AMOUNT
OF THAT REALLY REFLECTS THE
AMOUNT THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT
OF SALARY SAVINGS THAT THE SPD
HAS TO SPEND. THEY HAVE TO MAK
CHOICES ABOUT HOW TO SPEND IT.
THOSE ARE CORE FUNCTIONS,
PATROL OPERATIONS AND CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS. THOSE GET A
HIGHER AMOUNTS, TRYING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY ARE STAYING WHOL
, THE REST GOES TO SPECIAL
OPERATIONS. WITH ANY LUCK, THEY
GET TO STAY WITHIN $37.8
MILLION AND DO NOT HAVE AN
OVERTIME PROBLEM NEXT YEAR. I
WILL STOP AND ASK FOR QUESTIONS
>> GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS
I AM NOT SEEING ANY. LET'S KEE
GOING.
>> LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT SLIDE IS
THE CRIME PREVENTION PILOT. W
TALKED ABOUT THE $8.1 MILLION.
IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE $6.3
MILLION I JUST MENTIONED FOR
OVERTIME, THAT LEAVES $1.8
MILLION. THE DEPARTMENT
PROPOSES TO SPEND THAT LAST $1.
MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS ON TH
CRIME PREVENTION PILOT. THAT
HOPEFULLY MEMBERS BY NOW HAVE
HAD A CHANCE TO EITHER SCAN THE
MEMO OR THE DEPUTY MAYOR'S
MEMO. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE
SLIDE, ABOUT $280,000 WILL
EXPAND THE AUTOMATED LICENSE
PLATE READERSHIP TO ALL
VEHICLES AND ABOUT $1.5 MILLION
WILL BE USED FOR A CCTV PILOT
THAT EMPLOYS ACOUSTIC READERS
WITHIN THE CAMERAS. THE PILOT ,
IN SHORT, WILL PROVIDE BOTH, A
DETERRENCE TO VIOLENT CRIME AN
WILL ALLOW POLICE TO GATHER
EVIDENCE TO THEREFORE HOLD IT
ACCOUNTABLE. THEY ARE SEARCHIN
FOR STOLEN VEHICLES BY USING
LICENSE PLATE READER
TECHNOLOGY, IN SOME OF THE
PATROL VEHICLES. THE CITY
COUNCIL APPROVED THE USE IN
ORDINANCE 1236 I'M SORRY,
126313 , WHEN IT PASSED THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT.
THAT WAS MARCH, 2021. SO,
TECHNICALLY, THE EXECUTIVE WIL
NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH THE
SURVEILLANCE PROCESS AGAIN, TO
EXPAND THIS TECHNOLOGY TO ALL
PATROL CARS. NONETHELESS, THE
DEPUTY MAYOR HAS INDICATED THAT
THEY WOULD STILL SUBMIT AND GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS ON THE
AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS
TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS
AWARE OF THE EXPANSION AND THE
POLICIES AROUND IT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WE
OH, DID I INTERRUPT YOU?
>> I WAS GOING TO FLIP TO THE
NEXT SLIDE. I WILL PAUSE.
>> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO
REFER TO DEPUTY MAYOR TIM
BURGESS ' MEMO ON PAGE FOUR.
APPRECIATE, GREG, YOU FLAGGIN
THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAVE HA
WITH THE EXECUTIVE ABOUT
ADHERENCE WITH THE SURVEILLANC
TECHNOLOGY ORDINANCE. AND THE
EXPLANATION , I'M SORRY, THE
READER TECHNOLOGY , THE EXISTIN
TECHNOLOGY , IT MAY NOT NEED
FULL-BLOWN REVIEW, I APPRECIAT
THAT THE EXECUTIVE IS PLANNING
TO DO AN UPDATE STILL. BUT THE
GUIDING PRINCIPLES , NUMBER
ONE, IT SAYS THAT THE
TECHNOLOGY WILL ONLY BE
IMPLEMENTED ONCE THE ORDINANCE
REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. AND I
BELIEVE THAT THE LAW, THE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY, THE
OTHER TECHNOLOGIES CAN NOT BE
PURCHASED, I BELIEVE, UNTIL TH
TECHNOLOGY REVIEW IS DONE. A
I REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY?
THE MEMO SAYS IT WILL BE
LIMITED, MY RECOLLECTION IS THA
THE TECHNOLOGY HAS TO HAPPEN
BEFORE THE PURCHASE.
>> YOU ARE, COUNCILMEMBER AND
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MIGHT SUGGEST
, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE,
ONE THING THAT MIGHT HELP MOVE
THIS DISCUSSION ALONG QUICKER I
IF I WENT OVER THIS PILOT IN IT
ENTIRETY. AND THEN WE OPENED IT
UP TO QUESTIONS. THERE IS A LOT
HERE AND I CAN SUM IT UP PRETTY
QUICKLY. INCLUDING WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD JUST
ASKED. THEN MAYBE OPEN IT UP TO
QUESTIONS.
>> I WILL KEEP COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD IN THE PIPELINE, AS WEL
AS COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> I WILL GO RIGHT TO SLIDE
NUMBER 11 VERY QUICKLY, EVERYON
HAS THEIR HANDS UP, ANYTHING
THAT I DO NOT COVER, THE FOLKS
CAN JUMP IN ON. AND I KNOW THAT
THERE WILL BE A LOT OF POLICY
DISCUSSION, TOO. SO, THE FIRST
ITEM, THE CAMERAS WOULD BE
DEPLOYED ON A TEMPORARY BASIS
AND MAY BE MOVED AFTER ONE YEAR
BASED UPON EVALUATION. THE
EXECUTIVE WANTS TO CREATE AN
OMNIBUS SURVEILLANCE POLICY
THAT WOULD ONLY GO THROUGH
COUNCIL ONCE. IT WOULD ALLOW TH
CAMERAS TO BE MOVED FROM
LOCATION TO LOCATION WITHOUT AN
UPDATE TO THE ORIGINAL
SURVEILLANCE REPORT. THAT IS
IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT
INVOLVE THE COUNCIL ANYMORE, A
THE CAMERAS REMOVED. HOWEVER,
THE DEPUTY MAYOR HAS SAID THAT
THE EXECUTIVE WOULD ENGAGE WITH
EACH NEW COMMUNITY, AS CAMERAS
REMOVED , TO THOSE NEW
COMMUNITIES IN AN EFFORT TO
BUILD COMMUNITY COHESION AROUN
THOSE CAMERAS AND TO BUILD
SUPPORT FOR THE CAMERAS AS WELL
ALSO, I WILL MENTION, WHEN IT
COMES TO THE EVALUATION, THE
PERFORMANCE EVALUATION WILL
INCLUDE A RACIAL EQUITY
ANALYSIS, THAT WOULD BE DONE,
ACCORDING TO THE MEMO, AFTER TH
CAMERA PILOT WAS GOING,
HOWEVER, I WOULD MENTION THAT A
RACIAL EQUITY ANALYSIS IS
REQUIRED, AS PART OF THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE PROCESS,
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETED
BEFORE THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROV
THE TECHNOLOGY AND THAT WOULD
HAVE TO BE PART OF, PART OF THE
POLICY. THAT THE CAMERA, OR
THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD SEE. SO,
CAMERAS COULD BE LIVE MONITORED
WITH SPD 'S REALTIME CRIME
CENTER. CIVILIAN STAFF,
POTENTIALLY, IN THE FUTURE,
WOULD MONITOR THE CAMERAS. RIGH
NOW, SPD HAS INDICATED THAT
THEY DO NOT HAVE DEDICATED STAF
TO MONITOR THE QUESTIONS,
CAMERAS, THAT THEY COULD
POTENTIALLY BRING IN STAFF FRO
OTHER PLACES TO MONITOR THE
CAMERAS. BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY DO
NOT HAVE ANYONE. WHO WILL BRING
CIVILIANS IN IN THE FUTURE, IT
IS UNKNOWN HOW MUCH THAT MIGHT
COST. WHEN THE SPD STAFF, OR
CIVILIANS, ARE SWORN IN, AND
THEY SEE A CRIME HAPPENING,
THEY WOULD DISPATCH OFFICERS,
REVIEW VIDEO SEGMENT INVOLVING
CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, AND TRANSFER
THOSE TO THE DIGITAL EVIDENCE
SYSTEM, AND INFORM DETECTIVES
FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION. THE
QUESTION IS, WHICH CRIMES WOULD
REQUIRE THE REALTIME DISPATCH?
THE EXECUTIVE SAYS, IT WOULD
NOT BE USED TO ENFORCE LOW
-LEVEL CRIMES. THE MEMO FROM TH
DEPUTY MAYOR SAYS THE NEED FOR
THE CCTV , AND THE TECHNOLOGY
WOULD BE USED FOR THE STRATEGIC
DEPLOYMENT OF SPD POLICIES AND
THAT IT IS DRIVEN BY GUN
VIOLENCE AND PERSISTENT CRIME
IN SPECIFIC LOCATIONS. AND THA
SPD 'S USAGE WOULD FOCUS ON
THOSE CRIMES. NOW , GO TO THE
NEXT BULLET. RIFF , RECOGNITION
, THE TECHNOLOGY WOULD NOT BE
DEPLOYED UNTIL AFTER THE
EXECUTIVE COMPLETES THE
ORDINANCE PROCESS. THAT IS, THA
IS TRUE OF THE CCTV PORTION OF
THE PROCESS. IT IS A PROCESS
THAT REQUIRES REVIEW OF POLICIE
THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DESIGNED
AND ALSO REVIEWED BY
COMMUNITIES AFFECTED BY THE
TECHNOLOGY. IT WOULD NEED TO B
REVIEWED BY THE CITY'S
COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE WORKING
GROUP AND ULTIMATELY BY THE
CITY COUNCIL, WHO WOULD NEED TO
PASS THOSE POLICIES IN AN
ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE
DEPARTMENT TO BEGIN USING THE
CAMERAS. SO, THAT IS A LOT OF
PROCESS. I BRING THAT UP, WHEN
YOU SEE THAT LAST BULLET THAT
SAYS THE CAMERAS MIGHT BE
INSTALLED BY MARCH, 2024. THAT
IS THE EXECUTIVE'S GOAL FOR
INSTALLATION. IT IS A LOT OF
PROCESS TO DO BY THE END OF TH
FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. THE
LAST THING I WILL TALK ABOUT
BEFORE OPENING IT UP TO
QUESTIONS IS THE BUDGET THAT TH
EXECUTIVE HAS INDICATED THAT
$1.5 MILLION, THAT IS THE BUDGE
THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH .
THAT THAT IS GOING TO SHAPE THE
SIZE AND SCALE OF THIS PILOT
PROGRAM. IT IS NOT KNOWN RIGHT
NOW. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHETHER
OR NOT THAT $1.5 MILLION IS
GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO COVE
ONE SPOT, TWO SPOTS, OR THREE
SPOTS. THEY HAVE THREE IN MIND
AS POSSIBLE LOCATIONS. YOU HAVE
SEEN THAT IN THE MEMO, THE ONES
THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING. AND
IT IS THE CASE, IT IS NOT KNOWN
WHETHER IT WOULD BE A LEASE OR
CAMERA PURCHASE , THAT WOULD,
THAT WOULD DRIVE THE PILOT. NO
IS THERE ANY PROCESS OF WHAT
IT MIGHT MEAN TO BRING THIS TO
SCALE, OR WHAT SCALE MAY LOOK
LIKE, WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD B
TWO OR THREE LOCATIONS. IT MIGH
ROTATE. I TALKED ABOUT THE
PILOT, WE TALKED ABOUT THE
CAMERAS BEING MOBILE , AT THE
BEGINNING OF THIS SLIDE. SO
THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS
AROUND THIS. IT IS THE CASE THA
THE EXECUTIVE IS ASKING, ASKIN
THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WIT
THE PILOT, SAYING THAT IT IS
GOING TO BE BUILT AS IT IS
MOVING, INCLUDING THE POLICIES
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD GUIDE HO
THE REALTIME MONITORING AND
DEPLOYMENT IS WORKING. SO , WIT
THAT, I HAVE GIVEN MY
TWO-MINUTE OVERVIEW. THANK YOU
FOR LISTENING.
>> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR DETAILED MEMO. I APPRECIAT
IT. CENTRAL STAFF, COUNCILMEMBE
HERBOLD ?
>> I THINK COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS
IS AHEAD OF ME. I HAVE NO
QUESTIONS. I WANTED TO CLARIFY,
THE MEMO THAT I REFERENCED FROM
SORRY, THE DEPUTY MAYOR TIM
BURGESS, AND THE LANGUAGE ON
THIS SLIDE, IT IS IDENTICAL.
BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT WHETHER
OR NOT MY RECOLLECTION IS
CORRECT OR NOT. THE SLIDE ALSO
SAYS DEPLOYMENT CANNOT OCCUR
UNTIL AFTER THE COMPLETION OF
THE PROCESS. AND I DO NOT
BELIEVE THAT IS ACCURATE I
BELIEVE, I MEAN, IT IS ACCURATE
BUT, BUT MORE ACCURATE IS THE
PURCHASE I BELIEVE, IT CANNOT
OCCUR, UNTIL AFTER THE PROCESS.
SO --
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO BE
VERY CAREFUL THIS IS A VERY
SENSITIVE SUBJECT MATTER FOR TH
PUBLIC. WE NEED TO GET IT RIGH
ABOUT WHAT THE LIMITATIONS ARE
IN THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD. COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS ?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM
CHAIR. I WAS GOING TO MAKE IS
ANOTHER OBSERVATION, LEVEL
SETTING, I APPRECIATE THE
CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE LAW. AN
THE UNDERSTANDING ON THAT. BUT
MOVING ON TO THE CRUX OF THE
POLICY, I DO THINK, GOING
FORWARD, WE NEED TO BE EXPLORIN
WAYS TO DO MORE WITH LESS. WE
JUST HAD A CONVERSATION AROUND
THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE
FACING IN STAFFING AND , WHAT I
WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT,
AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS,
AM INTRIGUED BY THE PROPOSAL
FROM THE EXECUTIVE, BECAUSE IT
LEADS INTO SOME OF THE
PLACE-BASED STRATEGIES THAT WE
HAVE BEEN USING, THIRD AVENUE,
YOU KNOW WITH THE MATERIALS,
OBVIOUSLY, LITTLE SAIGON IS
ANOTHER AREA OF FOCUS, AND,
GIVEN THE REPRESENTATION FROM
THE EXECUTIVE ABOUT THE
SAFEGUARDS THAT WILL BE
EMPLOYED IN THE PILOT, AND THE
ONGOING POSTURE WITH
COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT GOING
FORWARD, THE BUDGET PROCESS, BU
I WOULD ENCOURAGE IS, WE REALLY
HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, IT
FILLS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE
AROUND HOW WE EXPECT THE TOOL
TO BE USED . AND REALLY, THE
DESIGN OF THE PILOT. I REALLY
THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY ,
THIS IS AN INNOVATIVE WAY FOR U
TO TRY TO ENHANCE, WITH LIMITE
RESOURCES, OUR PRESENCE IN SOME
OF THESE AREAS. IN A WAY, THEY
CAN BE COMPLEMENTARY WITH THING
LIKE THE 3rd AVENUE PROJECT AND
THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING. THE
MULTILAYERED STRATEGIES THAT W
ARE USING IN SOME OF THOSE
LOCATIONS ARE YIELDING REALLY
STRONG RESULTS. AND WAYS TO
MAINTAIN EYES ON THE STREET CAN
BE A REAL DETERMINANT . ON
REALLY FELONIOUS BEHAVIOR THAT
WE HAVE BEEN SEEING IN CERTAIN
SECTORS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
WE NEED TO BE TAKING VERY
SERIOUSLY. THIS IS A WAY TO
BRING A NEW TOOL, I ALSO WANTED
TO LIFT UP THE IDEA OF FUNDING
, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I
APPRECIATE THE EXECUTIVE LOOKIN
INTO. BEING INNOVATIVE WITH
SALARY SAVINGS IS IMPORTANT, AS
WE LOOK AT WAYS TO ENHANCE
PUBLIC SAFETY POLICIES. I AM
DEFINITELY INTRIGUED ABOUT
DEVELOPING THIS CONCEPT MORE
AND I DO THINK THIS IS THE KIND
OF CREATIVE THINKING THAT WE
NEED TO BE PURSUING TO GET THE
RESULTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE,
ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE
, WHERE THIS IS THE VISION BEIN
DEPLOYED.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> BECAUSE OUR CITY REMAINS
SHORT ON OFFICERS AND DETECTIVE
, AND BECAUSE OUR MAYOR AND THE
DEPARTMENT ARE TAKING THE
INITIATIVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE
WITH PUBLIC SAFETY RESULTS, I
PERSONALLY THINK, AT THE VERY
LEAST, WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE
ENTIRE REQUEST AND IMPLEMENT AL
OF THESE TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS,
SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST AS IS,
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ?
>> I WILL HAVE SOME REMARKS
ABOUT THE WHOLE TECHNOLOGY
PROPOSAL LATER, TOWARD THE END
OF THE SLIDE SERIES. BUT I DO
WANT TO SPEAK TO THE
SURVEILLANCE REVIEW PROCESS. AS
CHAIR OF THE CITY LIGHT
COMMITTEE, I CAN SAY THAT I
HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE MAYOR'S
ABILITY , IN OUR ABILITY , TO
MEET THE DEADLINES. LAID OUT
IN THE MAYOR'S TIMELINE. I
ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO
REVIEW THE TRACKER, QUESTION
73, IT SETS OUT IN MINUTE
DETAIL HOW THIS WOULD BE MOVING
FORWARD AND HOW THAT COULD BE
COMPLETED, IF WE ACTIVELY DO
THIS BY THE SECOND QUARTER,
2024. IT IS JUST ADDED
INFORMATION FOR FOLKS TO LOOK
AT.
>> THANK YOU, ARE THOSE OLD
HANDS THAT ARE STILL UP THERE?
>> SO, I WANT TO CLARIFY AND I
WANT TO THANK CENTRAL STAFF FO
PUTTING TOGETHER, OBVIOUSLY, TH
MEMO FOR US. AND DEPUTY MAYOR
TIM BURGESS FOR PUTTING TOGETHE
THE MEMO. CAN WE JUST CLARIFY
ON THE WHOLE PILOT , I MEAN,
THE PILOT PROGRAM. WE ALREADY
DO THE LICENSE PLATE READER,
CORRECT? WE ALREADY DO THAT.
>> THAT IS CORRECT .
>> WHAT WE ARE REALLY TALKING
ABOUT ON THE PILOT PIECE IS THE
CCTV AND THE SHOT SPOTTER,
THAT IS WHAT IT IS CALLED. IT
HAS BEEN REJECTED A FEW TIMES.
BUT THAT IS WHAT IS HERE?
>> THE GUNSHOT LOCATOR IS
PAIRED WITH THE CAMERA IN THIS
CASE. SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT OF A PROPOSAL.
>> OKAY, THAT IS A LITTLE MORE
SPECIFIC, WHICH I APPRECIATE. I
THE MEMO IT SAYS IT COULD BE
USED IN THESE AREAS. BUT I AM
LOOKING AT, OF COURSE, 3rd
AVENUE, BELLTOWN, AURORA, ARE
THOSE JUST THE THREE ? ARE THER
ANY OTHER AREAS, IS IT ONE OF
THE THREE, ALL THREE, ARE THEY
ALL TO BE DISCUSSED,
DETERMINED, BY LOOKING AT WHAT
WE LEARNED FROM THE LAST
PRESENTATION, WHERE THEY WOULD
BE MOST BE NEEDED TO COMBAT
PARTICULAR CRIMES WHERE WE DO
NOT HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS ON THE
STREET TO DO THIS?
>> THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FO
THE DEPUTY MAYOR TO STEP IN AND
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT --
>> NICE SAVE, NICE SAVE.
>> -- HOW HE PICKED THOSE
PARTICULAR SITES.
>> DEPUTY MAYOR TIM BURGESS ?
>> FIRST OF ALL, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, WHEN WE SAY THIS
CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL TH
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE IS
SATISFIED, WE MEAN IT CANNOT BE
PURCHASED, IMPLEMENT IT, OR
ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, YOU ARE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN YOUR
POSITION. THE FOCUS OF THIS
PILOT PROJECT IS GUN VIOLENCE
HUMAN TRAFFICKING , IN AREAS
WHERE FELONY CRIME IS
CONCENTRATED AND HAS OFTEN BEE
PRESENT FOR A LONG TIME. WE
HAVE DONE SOME ANALYSIS WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED AREAS OF THE CITY
WHERE THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET
AT THIS POINT IN OUR
PRELIMINARY CONCLUSION , WE
THINK THAT IT WILL EITHER BE
THE DOWNTOWN 3rd AVENUE
CORRIDOR OR AURORA AVENUE NORTH
THE RFP PROCESS WILL HELP US
DECIDE, AS GREG MENTIONED
EARLIER, CAN WE DO ONE OF THOS
PLACES, CAN WE DO TWO, CAN WE D
ALL THREE. WE DO NOT KNOW THAT
YET AT THIS POINT.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A
FOLLOW-UP.
>> OF COURSE.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER, CANNOT GET USED
TO IT, DEBBIE MAYOR TIM
BURGESS, NOW THAT WE ARE ALL
POST -2020 AND WE SEE THAT
THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LOT IN TH
LAST THREE YEARS , AND ALL OF
THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE
SEEN ARE EVERYWHERE, THEY ARE
NOT CONCENTRATED IN ANY
PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAV
MORE VIOLENCE AND DEATHS,
PARTICULARLY IN BLACK AND BROWN
NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WHAT YOU
DEDICATED TO THOSE ASPECTS ,
THAT IS IMPORTANT, IS IT FAIR T
SAY, SOME OF THE AREAS THAT YO
ARE THINKING OF COULD BE MORE O
LESS, AURORA, BEING THE
STANDARD. DOWNTOWN THIRD
AVENUE, OR BELLTOWN, THESE AR
THE AREAS THAT QUALIFY BASED O
WHAT WE KNOW NOW FROM THE LAST
THREE YEARS AS SELECTION OF
AREAS. OR AM I GETTING AHEAD O
MYSELF.
>> SO, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
DATA TEAM, AND THE ANALYTICS ,
THEY DO THE ANALYSIS. WE TELL
THEM WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON
IN TERMS OF GUN VIOLENCE AND
HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND AREAS
WHERE FELONY CRIME IS
CONCENTRATED . AND THEY CAME
BACK WITH THAT ANALYSIS. IT IS
DONE ON A WEEKLY BASIS. AND WE
ARE LOOKING AT IT CONSTANTLY.
SO, IF THIS IS APPROVED AND WE
GO THROUGH THE PROCESS , AND WE
ARE READY TO MAKE A FINAL
DETERMINATION AS TO WHERE IT
WILL BE , THAT ANALYSIS WILL BE
COMPLETED WITHIN DAYS OF THAT
DECISION. ESPECIALLY GUN
VIOLENCE , YOU ARE CORRECT,
COUNCILMEMBER, IT HAPPENS ALL
OVER THE CITY. BUT IT IS VERY
CONCENTRATED IN VERY SPECIFIC
PLACES. AND WE ARE KEENLY AWAR
OF THAT. THOSE PLACES DESERVE
THE CITY GOVERNMENT TO DO WHAT
WE CAN, TO STOP THAT GUN
VIOLENCE . THE SAME WITH HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. THE ANALYSIS IS
HAPPENING CONSTANTLY. AND WE
WILL MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION
WHEN WE ARE READY TO DECIDE AN
THOSE FELONIES, THAT IS WHERE
YOU WANT TO PUT THE MOST
RESOURCES, FOR THE MOST
CRITICAL AND SEVERE CRIMES. I
UNDERSTAND THAT. ARE THERE
OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE GONE
BEYOND THE PILOT? THIS TYPE OF
TECHNOLOGY , IT MAKES SENSE,
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH
OFFICERS, EVEN IF YOU DID, TO
HAVE ENOUGH TOOLS ,
PARTICULARLY, THE GUN VIOLENCE
AND THE TRAFFICKING , AND WHAT
WE HAVE SEEN NATURALLY . ARE WE
SEEING THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM
EITHER ADOPTED, OR AS A PILOT
IN OTHER CITIES?
>> WE HAVE LOOKED AT WHAT THE
OTHER CITIES DO. A LOT OF OUR
CITIES EMPLOY THESE RESOURCES.
43 JURISDICTIONS IN
WASHINGTON STATE USED ALL
THREE OR ONE OR TWO OF THESE
TECHNOLOGIES. WE ARE TAKING
A BIT OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH ,
MOST OF OUR PEER CITIES, WHEN
THEY DEPLOY CCTV TECHNOLOGY,
THEY ARE BLANKETING LARGE AREAS
OF THE CITY. WE ARE NOT DOING
THAT HERE. OUR EVALUATION AND
LITERATURE ABOUT CCTV CAMERAS ,
WE DREW THREE CONCLUSIONS FROM
THAT. THE FIRST IS, IT IS MOST
EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU ARE TRYING
TO SUPPRESS SPECIFIC CRIMES.
SECONDLY, IF YOU ARE TRYING TO
DO THAT IN A VERY LIMITED
GEOGRAPHIC AREA. AND THIRD,
THAT YOU ARE MARRYING THAT
TECHNOLOGY WITH OTHER
INTERVENTIONS. SUCH AS, YOU
KNOW SUBTYPE WORK THAT YOU
DO, INCREASING POLICE PATROLS,
OR ENGAGEMENT AND INTERVENTION
STRATEGIES, USING
COMMUNITY-BASED GROUPS. ALL OF
THOSE THINGS AMPLIFY THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CCTV
CAMERAS. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO DO HERE. WE ARE NOT
WANTING TO BLANKET THE CITY
WITH THESE CAMERAS. WE WANT TO
BE VERY RESPONSIVE TO SPECIFIC
AND VERY SERIOUS CRIMES. THAT
ARE HARMING OUR PEOPLE. AND
SEE IF WE CAN STOP THOSE. AND
STOP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
CREATING THESE PROBLEMS.
>> ON PAGE TWO OF THE MEMO,
YOUR THEORY OF CHANGE. YOU TALK
ABOUT THE PILOT PROJECT FOR
THESE TECHNOLOGIES, OBVIOUSLY,
TO BOLSTER POLICE PROTECTION
IN PUBLIC PLACES, OBVIOUSLY
DETERRENCE AND GATHERING
EVIDENCE TO HOLD OFFENDERS
ACCOUNTABLE. I HAVE SEEN THIS,
THIS IS NOT BRAND-NEW. WE ARE
SEEING THIS. AND YOU ARE
ARTICULATING IT , OBVIOUSLY,
TAILORED TO OUR CITY, IF YOU
WILL. SO, CAN YOU TELL ME A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW ALL
OF THESE DISCUSSIONS CAME ABOUT
, EITHER ORGANICALLY,
SECRETLY, SYSTEMICALLY, FOR
SPD AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE?
>> I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS CALLED
BY CHIEF DIAZ , THE NIGHT THAT
THE MASS SHOOTING OCCURRED.
AND, AS I WAS DRIVING THERE. I
WAS COMMUNICATING WITH THE
MAYOR , WHO ACTUALLY BEAT ME TO
THE SCENE. BUT, WHEN WE WERE
STANDING THERE TALKING ABOUT IT
I ASKED THE CHIEF, WHAT ELSE
SHOULD WE BE DOING TO SUPPRESS
THE GUN VIOLENCE , WHICH IS
INCREASING DRAMATICALLY IN
OUR CITY. WE HAD A CONVERSATION
ABOUT THE VARIOUS
INTERVENTIONS THAT WE COULD
EMPLOY, INCLUDING CAMERAS, IN
SPECIFIC PLACES. AND I THINK
THAT WAS KIND OF , THAT WAS
KIND OF ONE OF THE BEGINNING
POINTS OF THE CONVERSATION. WE
ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE BUDGET OFFICE, KIND OF
SIMULTANEOUSLY, THAT INDICATED
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME FUNDS
AVAILABLE TO DO THE PILOT. WE
STARTED DOING THE RESEARCH, WE
STARTED TALKING TO THE PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE GOT TO
THE POINT WHERE WE SUBMITTED
THIS PROPOSAL TO THE COUNCIL.
>> IF I CAN DO ONE MORE
FOLLOW-UP, MADAM CHAIR?
>> TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS YOU
WOULD LIKE. YOUR QUESTIONS ARE
SIMILAR TO MINE. PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> WE HAVE ALL BEEN AROUND,
MANY OF US, HAVE YOU BEEN IN
DISCUSSION, I KNOW, SINCE 2020,
SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS MADE THE
DECISION TO REMOVE PUBLIC
SAFETY OFFICERS. AFTER THAT,
WE HAD A COUPLE OF SCHOOL
SHOOTINGS, AND ONE STUDENT IN
MY DISTRICT WAS KILLED BY
ANOTHER STUDENT WITH GUNS. WE
ARE SEEING MORE OF THAT IN
OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS. ARE WE
LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT THIS
PILOT PROJECT COULD PRODUCE
MORE INFORMATION ? IF, INDEED,
A HIGH SCHOOL WANTED THIS KIND
OF TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, I
WOULD JUST KEEP CALLING IT
WHAT WE WERE CALLING IT, SHOTS
FIRED, WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO
CALL IT, VOLUNTARILY, IF IT IS
A PROJECT, SO THAT IT IS AN
IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, RATHER THAN
WAITING FOR OFFICERS TO DO
THEIR DUE LOCKDOWN. I MEAN,
THAT IS REALLY NEAR AND DEAR
TO ME, AND I AM SURE ALL OF US,
WE HAVE SEEN THAT HERE, JUST IN
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IS
THAT SOMETHING THAT THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE IS DISCUSSING WITH
SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. OR IS
THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK
ABOUT AT A LATER DATE OR CAN BE
LIMITED TO PART OF THE PILOT?
>> NO, WE ARE NOT HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT. WE HAVE HAD
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT ABOUT SAFETY,
FREQUENTLY. BUT WE HAVE NOT
RAISED THE CONCEPT OF
INTRODUCING THESE TECHNOLOGIES
AT SCHOOLS. OUR FOCUS IS ON
PUBLIC PLACES, SIDEWALKS,
STREETS, PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE ,
IF WE DO EMPLOY THIS ON 3rd
AVENUE , WEST LAKE PARK IS
THERE. AND WE HAVE HAD
PROBLEMS THERE. SO , WE WOULD
NOT BE ADVANCING THIS OR
RECOMMENDING THIS FOR OUR
SCHOOLS.
>> THE FACIAL RECOGNITION
MAKES SENSE, OBVIOUSLY, NO ONE
WANTS THAT FOR ANY KIND OF
PROFILING. CAN YOU SHARE A
LITTLE BIT MORE, EVEN THOUGH
YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS
WE WILL NOT BE USING FACIAL
RECOGNITION, HOW WOULD THAT
WORK ON THE GROUND? YOU ARE
NOT GOING TO RUN SOFTWARE, HOW
WOULD THAT WORK? CAN YOU
EXPLAIN THAT PIECE, REALLY
QUICKLY ?
>> ARE YOU ASKING HOW POLICE
WILL IDENTIFY OFFENDERS?
>> YES.
>> YOU ARE RIGHT, WE ARE NOT
GOING TO USE FACIAL RECOGNITION
FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS,
INCLUDING THE FACT THAT IT IS
NOT DEVELOPED SUFFICIENTLY TO
BE ACCURATE AND TO TAKE CARE
OF THE BIAS THAT IS BUILT-IN.
DETECTIVES WILL DO WHAT THEY
NORMALLY DO. THEY WILL HAVE AN
IMAGE OF SOMEONE, THEY WILL
SHOW THAT PHOTOGRAPH TO
WITNESSES AND TRY TO IDENTIFY
WHO THAT PERSON IS. REGULAR ,
OLD POLICE WORK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK
YOU, COLLEAGUES , FOR THIS
DISCUSSION. I WILL SHARE WHAT I
STARTED WITH THIS, AFTER THE
DISCUSSION FROM THE PAST
COUPLE OF YEARS, I WAS NOT
INTERESTED IN REVISITING THIS
CONVERSATION. AND AFTER READING
THE MEMOS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT
TO US, I GOT TO A PLACE OF
NEUTRALITY. FOR THIS
CONVERSATION , JUST NOW, I AM
INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS
PILOT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
THINGS THAT BROUGHT ME TO THIS
POSITION, WHICH IS THE NARROW
FOCUS, BOTH WITH THE TYPES OF
CRIME AND LOCATION ALDI, I
THINK WHEN YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT 30, PLACES IN BELLTOWN
AND AURORA, IT IS VERY
DIFFERENT THAN THE ENTIRE CITY
OR AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THOSE ARE PLACES WE KNOW NEED
SAFETY INTERVENTIONS. AND IT
IS REALLY CRITICAL , THE
FOLKS THAT WE SEE WHO WERE
CAUGHT UP IN THESE WEBS IN MY
DISTRICT, NOT SO FAR FROM THAT.
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE
KEEPING THEM IN THE POSITION
THAT THEY ARE IN, USING THEM
AS HUMAN SHIELDS, OR GAINING
FROM THEM, IF HAVING A CAMERA,
TRYING OUT USING A CAMERA CAN
DISRUPT THIS, I THINK IT IS
WORTH A SHOT. AND I THINK, I
GUESS, WHAT CHANGED MY
SPECIFIC POSITION ON THIS, IS
ESPECIALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT
THERE IS INPUT, IF THESE
CAMERAS ARE GOING TO BE MOVED,
A VERY TIGHT FOCUS ON WHERE
THEY WILL BE. THAT FACIAL
RECOGNITION WILL NOT BE USED.
AND THAT THERE WILL BE A RACIAL
EQUITY ANALYSIS. AND ONE
THING, DEPUTY MAYOR, THAT YOU
JUST SHARED REALLY, THAT MOVED
MY POSITION, OTHER CITIES AND
OTHER STATES USING THIS
TECHNOLOGY TO BLANKET THE
CITY'S, OTHER CITIES THAT USE
THIS TECHNOLOGY TO BLANKET
THEIR CITIES, HAVING THAT FOCUS
ON THAT TYPE OF CRIME, AND
BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT MOVING
IT AGAIN AND BEFORE WE MOVE
IT, SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS, OR NOT
? IF THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS IN
DISTRICT SIX THAT WOULD WANT A
CAMERA, IF NOT THE ENTIRE
DISTRICT, FOR SURE, THERE ARE A
COUPLE OF INTERSECTIONS WHAT I
THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL,
SO, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU
THIS, SINCE WE ARE HAVING A
PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU , ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> FOR ME , THE ISSUE THAT I
FOCUSED ON, WITH MY CONCERNS
LAST YEAR, WERE , THEY WERE
LESS ABOUT THE PRIVACY ISSUES ,
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE TO
ENGAGE THE PUBLIC AND CREATE
SAFEGUARDS. SO, I HAVE ALWAYS
BEEN ASSUMING THAT ANY
INVESTMENT LIKE THIS WOULD
INDEED GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS
. AND THE PRIVACY SAFEGUARDS
THAT WOULD, OF THE END WOULD
MAKE FOR A BETTER INTERVENTION
AND WOULD MAKE IT A SOUND
INVESTMENT, AS IT RELATES TO
THE PRIVACY ISSUES. MY CONCERNS
ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE
EFFICACY OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND
THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE
ABOUT FALSE POSITIVES , ABOUT
THE TECHNOLOGY , OR , THE ,
THE TECHNOLOGIES , IT IS
LIMITED IN USEFULNESS AS
EVIDENCE IN A COURT OF LAW. AND
THAT IS REALLY THE AREA THAT I
NEED TO EITHER SEE SOME NEW
INFORMATION FROM WHAT I WAS
LOOKING AT LAST YEAR, OR THE
PERSUADED, THAT THERE IS AN
APPROACH TO DEAL WITH FALSE
POSITIVES AND DEPLOY THE
TECHNOLOGY, THAT IT IDENTIFIES
AS A LOCATION WHERE SHOTS WERE
FIRED,
THAT HAPPENS ALREADY. WE DON'T
NEED TO INCREASE THE
LIKELIHOOD OF SENDING A VERY
SHORT-STAFFED POLICE FORCE THE
THINGS THAT DON'T TURN OUT TO
BE SHOTS FIRED , AND SIMILARLY
THEN, ON THE EVIDENTIARY VALUE
OF THE AND THE REVIEWS
THAT I'VE BEEN SEEING. SO,
TRYING TO KEEP IT IN MIND HERE
AND APPRECIATE THE
COMMITMENTS AND FOCUS. I DO
HAVE ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION.
WE'RE CALLING THIS A PILOT, BUT
I SEEM TO RECALL -- I DON'T
KNOW IF THIS WAS IN GREG'S
MEMO, OR MAY BE IN THE
DEPARTMENTAL Q&A. HAVE WE
RECEIVED VERIFICATION THAT A
CONTRACT, IT IS POSSIBLE TO
HAVE A CONTRACT FOR A SMALL
PERIOD OF TIME? BECAUSE IF WE
ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS
BEING A PILOT THEN REEVALUATING
BEFORE COMMITTING LONG-TERM, I
THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE BENDER, IF YOU WILL,
ALLOWS FOR THAT TYPE OF A
CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION, OR IF
YOU'RE IN FOR A YEAR, YOU'RE IN
FOR FIVE YEARS. I DON'T KNOW
WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS SHOULD
BE AND HOW THAT MEETS WITH THE
DEFINITION OF THIS BEING A
PILOT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, THE RFP
DOCUMENT ADDRESSES THAT
SPECIFIC ISSUE AND LAYS OUT
REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE WHO ARE
GOING TO RESPOND TO THE RFP AND
GIVE US OPTIONS ALONG THOSE
LINES. I THINK YOUR OTHER
COMMENTS ABOUT LAST YEAR,
PREVIOUS TIMES, ARE PRIMARILY
RELATED TO THE ACOUSTIC GUNSHOT
LOCATOR SYSTEMS. THE
DIFFERENCE, HERE, IS THAT WE'RE
MARRYING THAT TECHNOLOGY WITH
THE CCTP CAMERAS, WHICH MAKES
THE COMBINATION OF BOTH
TECHNOLOGIES FAR, FAR MORE
EFFECTIVE AND OF MUCH GREATER
EVIDENTIARY VALUE IN THE CASE
OF A PROSECUTION, FOR EXAMPLE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD,
FOLLOW-UP? LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE
UNMUTE .
>> ESSENTIALLY, I CAN
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
DEPUTY MAYOR BRIDGES. IF THERE
ARE EXAMPLES OF OTHER
JURISDICTIONS THAT DO THAT
PAIRING AND HAVE THAT
EXPERIENCE, I WOULD LOVE TO
LEARN MORE. THANK YOU.
>> YOU BET.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> SO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, FROM
THE MEMO, COMPLEX AND SOCIAL
/RACIAL JUSTICE ISSUES
RELATED TO THIS ISSUE, I THINK
WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES
OF PEOPLE MOST IMPACTED BY GUN
VIOLENCE AND SERIOUS CRIME.
THAT WOULD BE THE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE LOST A FAMILY MEMBER OR
LOVED ONE IN A SHOOTING. LIKE
BRISCOE, FROM A "SEATTLE TIMES"
OP-ED FROM 21 10 -- 2021,
SAYING, THERE'S A NEED FOR
POLICE PRESENCE IN COMMITTEES
OF VIOLENCE. WHEN WE CRITIQUE
THEIR VIOLENCE, WE NEED TO NOT
SEXUALLY EXPLOIT THOSE IN
TRAFFIC AND AS WELL AS THOSE OF
VICTIMS OF URBAN GUN VIOLENCE.
SHE AND HER OP-ED BY SAYING
THERE'S GOOD REASON TO CONTINUE
PASSIVE REFORMS WILL WORKING
TOWARDS NEW APPROACHES IN
RESPONDING TO CRIME AND CRISIS.
ONE IS MY BROTHER, KILLED BY
THE SEATTLE POLICE. THE OTHER
IS MY SON, KILLED BY ANOTHER
TEENAGER. AND I SEE THIS
TECHNOLOGY AS A NEW APPROACH.
DAVITA NOW SERVES IN THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE. I CAN ONLY
ASSUME HE'S LISTENING TO HER.
OR, YOU CAN TALK TO ALICIA
DOSSO, WHOSE SON WAS SHOT IN
RANIER BEACH IN 2020 AND JUST
STARTED A LOCAL CHAPTER OF
PARENTS OF MURDERED CHILDREN. C
SUPPORTS THIS PROPOSAL, OR
KIARA PICKETT, HOLDING THE
VIGIL ON OCTOBER 19th, MARKING
THE 30th ANNIVERSARY OF HER
HUSBAND IDOT, DAVON PICKETT ,
AND SHE SUPPORTS THIS
TECHNOLOGY. THE POINT HAS BEEN
MADE, BUT LET ME JUST BUNCH IT
ALL TOGETHER HERE. WE'VE GOT
920 OFFICERS IN SERVICE, THE
LOWEST SINCE DECADES AND
DECADES, I BELIEVE, WITH THE
NUMBER AT 91. I COULD BE WRONG
ON THAT. 1991. THERE HAVE BEEN
60 HOMICIDES THIS YEAR, TO
DATE, COMPARED TO 46 IN 2022,
SURPASSING LAST YEAR'S OCTOBER
TOTAL. 63% OF THE VICTIMS IN
FATAL SHOOTINGS AND 56 IN
NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS ARE BLACK .
SO, MY POINT IS WE'RE IN NO
POSITION TO THROW A TOOL OUT OF
A TOOLBOX HERE. MAYOR HARRELL
GREW UP AND ATTENDED GARFIELD
HIGH WHERE THERE WAS ANOTHER
SHOOTING LAST WEEK LEADING TO A
LOCKDOWN. SO, I TRUST HE'S
LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND
WOULDN'T BE PUTTING THIS BOARD
AGAIN UNLESS PEOPLE LIVING IN
THE AREAS WERE PEOPLE DYING AND
REALLY WANTED THIS, AND HIS
PERSISTENCE IS THE REASON WHY
WE HAVE BODY CAM CAMERAS RIGHT
NOW, WHICH WASN'T WITHOUT
CONTROVERSY BACK IN THE DAY ,
AND IS NOW CONSIDERED A
CRITICAL COMPONENT OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY. I BELIEVE IT'S
VERY LIKELY THAT AFTER
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PILOT
AND ANALYSIS OF THE OUTCOMES,
WE'LL ONE THEY CONSIDER USE OF
THIS TECHNOLOGY AS KEY TO A
SAFER SEATTLE. SO, I UNDERSTAND
THAT THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT
FALSE POSITIVES AND EVIDENCE,
ET CETERA, BUT WHAT I'M REALLY
MOTIVATED BY IS THE COMMUNITY
THAT'S BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR
YEARS , AND THE MAYOR GIVING
ANOTHER GO AT IT. SO, I SUPPORT
THIS PROPOSAL, AND OF COURSE, I
WILL BE VOTING FOR IT IF IT
COMES FORWARD. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON. OKAY. WE ARE GETTING
TOWARDS THE END OF THE DAY AND
THIS PRESENTATION. THERE'S A
LOT OF DISCUSSION HERE . I
THINK IT'S WARRANTED
DISCUSSION. I APPRECIATE THE
FEEDBACK, DEPUTY MAYOR
BURGESS. THANKS FOR THE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,
ESPECIALLY TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
CHAIR. I HAVE A FEW FOLLOW-UP
QUESTIONS HERE. OBVIOUSLY, I
THINK THIS WARRANTS A LONGER
DISCUSSION, BUT I WILL TRY TO
GET THESE IN FOR THE PURPOSE OF
INITIATING SOME OF THAT. AND I
WANT TO ALSO CONTEXTUALIZE THIS
DISCUSSION AGAIN. RIGHT? WE'RE
IN THE MIDST OF A BUDGET TO
LIBERATION DISCUSSION WHERE WE
KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ONGOING
REVENUE GAP AND EXPENDITURE
GAP, BEGINNING NEXT YEAR, IN
DECEMBER, DECEMBER 31st . SO,
THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR US TO IDENTIFY WHAT TO DO
WITH VERY LIMITED RESOURCES,
ESPECIALLY NOT KNOWING IF
THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES AFTER DECEMBER OF
NEXT YEAR TO INVEST IN ONGOING
GOVERNMENT SERVICES WE
CURRENTLY HAVE. I SAID AT THE
BEGINNING OF THIS BUDGET
PROCESS THAT I WAS GOING TO BE
ANALYZING AND SCRUTINIZING
BRAND-NEW PROGRAMS, BRAND-NEW
INITIATIVES AND PILOT OVERALL,
IN ALL DEPARTMENTS, KNOWING
THAT WE HAVE AN ONGOING BUDGET
SITUATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
ADDRESS, AND THAT DOESN'T TAKE
AWAY FROM THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
ISSUES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT
ALL. IT DOES HELP PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS THAT I CAN
BE UNIVERSALLY APPLIED TO
VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. GREG, CAN
YOU PLEASE REMIND ME, WHAT IS
THE ONGOING COST FOR THIS
INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE
YEARS, ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD
CONTINUE BEING A PILOT?
>> IT'S NOT KNOWN RIGHT NOW,
COUNCILMEMBER.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I
THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL
TO HAVE MORE OF AN ANALYSIS OF
WHICH STAKEHOLDERS WERE
REACHED OUT TO TO DISCUSS THE
PROPOSAL HERE. I KNOW THE
STORY THAT WAS SHARED ABOUT THE
IMPETUS FOR WANTING TO DO
SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES IS
VERY MOVING, GIVEN THAT THERE
IS A DIRECT NEXUS WITH GUN
VIOLENCE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
I PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON THE
STATEWIDE HUMAN TRAFFICKING
COALITION. I WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW MORE, IF THEY WERE
INVOLVED, IN ADDITION TO SOME
OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS FOR
GUN VIOLENCE REDUCTION
STRATEGIES ACROSS OUR CITY AND
STATE. SO, WE'LL BE REACHING
OUT TO THE EXECUTIVE AND ALSO
THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO TRY TO
GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM
THEM. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN
AREA WHERE IT SOUNDS LIKE
THERE'S SOME TIME PRIOR TO
IMPLANTATION GIVEN A
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE THAT
WOULD NEED TO BE PASSED AND A
RACIAL EQUITY TOOL WOULD NEED
TO BE PASSED SO, PART OF THE
ANALYSIS FROM CENTRAL STAFF
THAT I WOULD LOVE, AS WELL, IS
MORE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF,
LET'S SAY, THE RACIAL EQUITY
TOOLKIT CAME BACK WITH NO
CONCERNS AND AN ORDINANCE TO
BE UPDATED REGARDING THE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES HERE.
CLEARLY, AS I HAVE APPLIED
THIS LENS TO ALL DEPARTMENTS,
WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT SORT OF
PARTIAL FUNDING WOULD BE
NEEDED WITH A REALISTIC
TIMELINE OF A GO-DATE IF IT'S
NOT THE END OF QUARTER ONE, AS
MAYBE THAT IS OPTIMISTIC. SO,
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, IN TERMS
OF BOTH STAKEHOLDERS AND
TIMELINE. I ALSO WANT TO,
AGAIN, EMPHASIZE, I THINK THAT
THE QUESTIONS, AND ESPECIALLY
WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES WHO
HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT SORT
OF THE ORIGINS OF THIS, THE
IMPACT, NONE OF THIS IS
INTENDED TO BE A SET UP AS A
DYNAMIC BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE
EXECUTIVE RIGHT? WE SPENT A LOT
OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF US COMING
TOGETHER TO WORK ON A BUDGET
AND TO DO SO, ESPECIALLY AS WE
APPROACH A BIANNUAL BUDGETING
PROCESS, THAT REALLY REQUIRES
BOTH GOVERNMENT ENTITIES
WORKING TOGETHER SO THAT WE
CAN SERVE THE ONGOING AND
INCREASED NEEDS IN OUR
COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY SAFETY,
PUBLIC HEALTH, INVESTMENTS IN
WORKERS AND SMALL BUSINESSES.
ALL OF THOSE SHARE IMPORTANCE
IN THE BUDGET. SO, I WANTED TO
EMPHASIZE THAT THE QUESTIONS
THAT ARE BEING ASKED ARE NOT
INTENDED TO BE SETTING UP AN US
VS. THEM DYNAMIC OR A DIVISION
OR FISSURES WITHIN GOVERNMENT.
THIS IS REALLY ABOUT
TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY,
AND ENSURING THAT EVERY DOLLAR
THAT IS AVAILABLE IS GOING OUT
THE DOOR AND TO THE IMMEDIATE
SERVICES THAT WILL BE DEPLOYED.
I DO HAVE TO ECHO SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED ABOUT
SURVEILLANCE AND THE SORT OF
ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE SEE IN
THIS YEAR'S PROPOSAL. I THINK
WE DID HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST
DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS CONCEPT
LAST YEAR, AND APPRECIATE THAT
DISTINCTION THAT THE EXECUTIVE
TEAM IS DRAWING OUT, THAT THERE
IS NOISE PLUS VISION, AUDIO
PLUS VISUAL TECHNOLOGIES
COMBINED. THINK THERE IS AN
ANALYSIS THERE THAT THIS IS A
ENHANCEMENT OVER THE EARLIER
PROPOSAL THAT WE SAW LAST YEAR.
BUT I DO WANT TO KNOW THAT OUR
CITY AUDITOR SAID, IN 2016,
QUOTE, THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE
RESEARCH TO DATE ON THE
EFFICACY OF ACOUSTIC GUNSHOT
LOCATOR SYSTEMS FOR REDUCING
CRIME. MOREOVER, ALTHOUGH FEW
AVAILABLE STUDIES HAVE FOUND
THAT ACOUSTIC GUNSHOT LOCATOR
SYSTEMS CAN RESULT IN SLIGHTLY
FASTER RESPONSE SYSTEMS BY
POLICE, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE
THAT THESE SMALL GAINS IN
POLICE RESPONSE TIMES HAVE HAD
A DETERRENT EFFECT OR HAVE LED
TO INCREASED APPREHENSION OF
OFFENDERS. I LOOK FORWARD TO
HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT
ANALYSIS AS IT APPLIES TO
ACOUSTIC GUNSHOT OR LOCATOR
SYSTEMS, MARRIED WITH CLOSED
CAPTIONING TELEVISION TO SEE IF
THERE'S ANY INDICATION THAT THE
DONATION THERE HELPS TO
ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, BUT WE
KNOW, FROM MANY OF THE
DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD LAST
YEAR, INCLUDING THE ANALYSIS
FROM THE ACLU OF WASHINGTON,
THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT
CONCERN ACROSS THE CITY ABOUT
DEPLOYING SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGIES , AND THE CONCERN
ABOUT THAT AMOUNT OF
INFORMATION BEING CAPTURED ,
AND THUS, ALSO, YOU KNOW,
MARRYING THAT CONCERNED WITH
WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO
RESULT IN MORE PEOPLE BEING
ABLE TO RESPOND IMMEDIATELY
ONCE THEY SEE OR HEAR SOMETHING
ON THIS TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM , AND
OVERALL, MAYBE THE
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT FOR
COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE
SURVEILLANCE CONCERNS. AGAIN,
I'LL BE DOING SOME FOLLOW-UP.
APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY
WITH THE EXECUTIVE IN THIS
DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT I WANTED
TO FLAG THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT
STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, ONGOING
COSTS, AND THE PAST DATA WE
HAVE SEEN ON SIMILAR
TECHNOLOGIES. YOU KNOW, JUST IN
TERMS OF PROCESS, WHERE WE ARE
AT THE BUDGET, AND WHAT STILL
NEEDS TO BE CODIFIED BEFORE
THIS TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE ABLE
TO MOVE FORWARD, GIVEN THE
RACIAL EQUITY TOOL ANALYSIS AND
SURVEILLANCE AREA THAT NEEDS
APPROVAL STILL. LASTLY, I WOULD
ASK, GREG, COULD YOU REMIND ME?
MIDYEAR THIS YEAR, WHEN WE DID
THE UPDATE TO RELEASE THE
SALARY-SAVING DOLLARS, WHAT THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF, LIKE, MIDYEAR
SALARY-SEVEN DOLLARS WERE THAT
WE FREED UP AT THAT POINT? I'M
ASSUMING IT WAS MORE THAN $1.8
MILLION IF I REMEMBER
CORRECTLY.
>> ACTUALLY, AT THE TIME, IT
WASN'T THAT WE WERE FREEING UP
A SPECIFIC AMOUNT. WE JUST
ALTERED -- YOU ALL JUST
ALTERED THE RIVERS OH SO THAT
THE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE THE
AUTHORITY TO SPEND ON SALARY
SAVINGS AND THE TECHNOLOGY
PROJECT THEY WERE DOING, WHICH
WAS ONLINE REPORTING SYSTEMS
AND ONLINE ACCESS TO THE
ONLINE REPORTING SYSTEM. SO, IT
WASN'T A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU
ALL FREED UP. IT WAS JUST
ALLOWING THE DEPARTMENT TO
SPEND THEIR SALARY SAVINGS ON
THOSE THINGS . AT THAT TIME,
SPD WAS ESTIMATING AROUND $300
MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS,
WHICH NOW, AS WE KNOW, IT'S UP
FROM THAT TO 40.5.
>> 4.5 WAS MY RECOLLECTION AS
WELL, MIDYEAR. I WANTED TO
FLAG THAT AS ANOTHER OPTION AS
WE LOOK INTO THE ROLLOUT OF
SUCH A PROPOSAL, AND MAKING
SURE THAT IT MEETS THE MERITS
OF A RACIAL EQUITY TOOL
ANALYSIS , STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT, PASSING THE COUNCIL
ORDINANCE, BUT THERE'S ALSO A
POSSIBILITY THAT THERE COULD BE
MIDYEAR FUNDING FREED UP THAT
IS SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE NEEDS
OF THE TOTAL YEAR COST BEING
PROJECTED ON THE BUDGET. SO,
JUST THINKING THROUGH SOME
OPTIONS AS WE LOOK AT THE
PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US TO
ENSURE THAT SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS TO GET ANSWERED IN
THE CONTEXT OF THE OTHER
BUDGETARY INVESTMENTS THAT NEED
TO BE MADE. OKAY. LET'S TAKE A
LAST COMMENT ON THIS FROM OUR
EXECUTIVE TEAM, THEN I THINK
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. DEPUTY
MAYOR BURGESS?
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA, THANK YOU
FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE WELCOME
THESE COMMENTS AND DIALOGUE
ARE TOUGH QUESTIONS. WE VIEW
OURSELVES AS YOUR PARTNERS, AND
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU HELPING
US MAKE THIS PILOT EVEN BETTER
THAN WE HAVE THOUGHT OF SO
FAR. SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> DIRECTOR DINGLEY?
>> THANKS, CHAIR MOSQUEDA. I
WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS
PROPOSAL IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET
IS CURRENTLY PAID FOR WITH
SALARY SAVINGS FROM THE
DEPARTMENT, SO IT IS
BUDGET-NEUTRAL. I JUST WANTED
TO FLAG THAT.
>> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND
I DO RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT I ALSO
WANTED TO SORT OF NOTE THAT
WHERE THE SUNDAY -- FUNDING
SOURCE IS COMING FROM COULD
STILL POTENTIALLY BE A FUNDING
SOURCE FOR NEXT YEAR IF THERE
IS ADDITIONAL SALARY SAVINGS
LIKE THE AMOUNTS WE ARE SEEING
IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. AT SOME
POINT, YOU KNOW, EITHER THE
SPRING OR MIDYEAR NEXT YEAR.
AGAIN, JUST LOOKING FOR HOW WE
ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS,
COLLECTIVELY, AND ALSO WEIGHING
THAT WITH THE OTHER INVESTMENTS
NECESSARY. APPRECIATE IT.
OKAY. LET'S MOVE FORWARD. WE
HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES. IT'S
ABOUT 4:15. I KNOW WE CAN GET
THEM BEFORE 5:00, AND WE'LL
FREE UP ON THIS FRIDAY
AFTERNOON.
>> ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET ONE
MORE SLIDE? SO, AS YOUR CENTRAL
STAFF, I AM BOUND TO GIVE YOU
OPTIONS, AND OPTIONS YOU HAVE,
AND YOU ALL , AS YOU HAVE JUST
HEARD, HAVE A VARIETY OF
OPINIONS, SO I AM INCLINED TO
GIVE YOU A VARIETY OF OPTIONS.
BEFORE I GIVE YOU THESE
OPTIONS, I WANT TO PREFACE THAT
THE USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY , AS
YOU HAVE HEARD, JURISDICTIONS
HAVE FOUND THAT CCTV CAN BE
EFFECTIVE AS A DETERRENT AND
THAT IT HELPS PROVIDE EVIDENCE
AFTER CRIMES HAVE OCCURRED.
WHEN THE MEMO THAT I WROTE
TALKS ABOUT CREATING COMPLEX
RACE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES,
MUCH OF THAT DEPENDS ON HOW
IT'S IMPLEMENTED. WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE DEVELOPING
POLICIES , WHERE THERE WOULD BE
REAL-TIME MONITORING AND
REAL-TIME DEPLOYING, IT WOULD
ONLY BE FOCUSED ON CERTAIN
CRIMES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THOSE POLICIES BEING
TRANSMITTED TO THE COUNCIL IN
THE FORM OF A SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORT, AND IN THE
COUNCIL MEETING TO ADOPT THOSE
BY ORDINANCE. THAT PROCESS IS
NOT VERY DISSIMILAR FROM THE
PROCESS THAT YOU ALL WENT
THROUGH OVER THE SUMMER WHEN
YOU WERE ADOPTING THE STATE'S
DRUG POSSESSION LAW . YOU WERE
DETERMINING HOW POLICE POLICY
WOULD BE WORKING ON THE
STREETS, WHO WOULD BE
APPROACHED BY POLICE, WHO WOULD
BE ARRESTED, AND WHO WOULD BE
DIVERTED. HERE, IT WOULD BE
VERY SIMILAR , IN THE SENSE
THAT THERE WOULD BE CRIMES THAT
WOULD BE SEEN BY CAMERAS, AND
THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
WOULD BE LAYING FORTH THE
POLICIES THAT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WOULD BE USING TO
DETERMINE WHO WOULD BE
APPROACHED, FOR WHAT CRIMES ,
UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES, AND
HOW THE POLICE WOULD HANDLE
THOSE CRIMES . SO, IT IS A
COMPLEX POLICY DISCUSSION THAT
WOULD BE BEFORE YOU WHEN YOU
ARE PROVING THE -- APPROVING
THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT.
I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT,
BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
TIMELINES, IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN
QUICKLY. WITH THAT, AS SORT OF
THE OVERALL CONTEXT, I WOULD
SAY THAT SOME OF THE OPTIONS
HERE, REDUCING BY 1 MILLION
AND 1/2, THE PROVISO OR THE
PILOT, ONE POSSIBLE RATIONALE
FOR THAT IS THAT THE COUNCIL
WOULD NEED TO SET THESE
POLICIES BEFORE THE EXECUTIVE
CAN EVEN PURCHASE THIS
EQUIPMENT, AS COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD HAS SAID. GIVEN THE
LENGTH OF TIME THAT IT MIGHT
TAKE FOR THE EXECUTIVE TO DO
THE NECESSARY COMMUNITY
OUTREACH AND WORK WITH THE
COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE WORKING
GROUP, WHICH INCLUDES THE ACLU
AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AND TO
DEVELOP HIS POLICIES, THAT'S A
CHOICE THAT THE COUNCIL COULD
MAKE. THE COUNCIL COULD ALSO
JUST PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE
SOFTWARE THAT WOULD DO THE
LICENSE PLATE READING, BUT NOT
THE CDC -- CDCTV, OR AS I
SAID, REDUCED ENTIRE
PRODUCTION. THAT IS THE CONTEXT
THAT I OFFER THESE OPTIONS
WITHIN. THERE IS A COMPLEX
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE SET THAT
WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BY
THE COUNCIL. THEY'RE NOT EASY
ISSUES TO SETTLE.
>> GREAT. THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS
ANALYSIS, AND THANKS TO THE
EXECUTIVE TEAM FOR BEING PART
OF THE CONVERSATION TODAY. I
WANT TO JUST JUMP IN WITH ONE
MORE QUESTION, BECAUSE I FORGOT
TO ASK IT IN MY LAST COMMENTS
THERE, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE,
AND THIS IS VERY HELPFUL TO
HAVE YOU ALL ON THE LINE. LET
ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE A
GREATER UNDERSTANDING HERE. IS
THE LIVE HEAT CAMERA ALSO
GOING TO HAVE AN ACOUSTIC
GUNSHOT LOCATOR ABILITY? IS
THAT THE SAME TECHNOLOGY, OR A
SIMILAR TECHNOLOGY AS GUNSHOTS
OR OTHER SHOTS?
>> YEAH. SO, THE CAMERAS ARE
GOING TO HAVE THE GUN LOCATOR
ABILITY . THEY'LL HEAR THE
GUNSHOT . THERE WILL ALSO BE
MONITORING . IF THE FOLKS
MONITORING DON'T SEE THE
GUNSHOT , THE LOCATOR DEVICE
WILL LET THEM KNOW, BUT THE
LOCATOR DEVICE WILL ,
CONCEIVABLY, ADD THE
FUNCTIONALITY OF BEING ABLE TO
PROVIDE EVIDENTIARY VALUE OF
WHERE THE SHOT WAS FIRED, AND
PROBABLY, ALSO, TYPE OF SHOT,
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE
DEPUTY MAYOR MAY BE ABLE TO ADD
SOME TEXTURE TO.
>> WE DO SEE THE CDCTV AND THE
GUNSHOT SYSTEM LOCATED, AND
TOGETHER.
>> SO, THE CALL LOCATION MEANS
THAT IT REGISTERS LOUD SOUNDS,
OR IS THERE LIKE A LIVE AUDIO
FEED PART OF THE CAMERAS?
>> THERE IS NOT AN AUDIO FEED.
IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO
RECORDING VOICES THAT WE HEAR
ON THE STREET OR THE SIDEWALK
OR SOMETHING, THAT IS NOT.
>> THANK YOU .
>> IT DETECTS THE SOUND OF
GUNSHOTS, OR WHAT IT THINKS ARE
GUNSHOTS, AND THEN IT GOES
THROUGH A VERIFICATION PROCESS
TO DETERMINE IF IT REALLY WAS A
GUNSHOT. A CCTV , THOUGH, IS A
CAMERA THAT'S RECORDING
CONSTANTLY. AND THAT VIDEO IS
MAINTAINED FOR APPROXIMATELY 30
DAYS, THEN RECORDED OVER ,
ESSENTIALLY, ERASED. SO, IT'S
KIND OF A LOOP. YOU HAVE 30
DAYS OF VIDEO. IF THE POLICE
DETECT THAT A CRIME OCCURRED
AND THEY WANT THAT VIDEO
EVIDENCE OF THAT CRIME, THEY
HAVE TO THEN TAKE THAT , MOVE
IT, THAT SEGMENT OF THE VIDEO,
MOVE IT TO THEIR DIGITAL
EVIDENCE UNIT, OR TO THEIR
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT THEY
HAVE FOR DIGITAL EVIDENCE. IF
IT'S AFTER THE 30 DAYS AND
THEY GO BACK AND WANT TO GET
EVIDENCE OF A CRIME, VIDEO
EVIDENCE, IT'S TOO LATE. IT'S
GONE, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN
ERASED OVER. SO, THERE'S AN
AUTOMATIC PURGING OF THAT
VIDEO, BUT THE GUNSHOT DOES
ALERT -- THE LOCATOR SYSTEM
DOES ALERT THE POLICE THAT
GUNSHOTS WERE HEARD. I SHOULD
ALSO CLARIFY , AS WE TALK ABOUT
THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER,
IT'S NOT THAT THERE ARE GOING
TO BE DEDICATED PEOPLE SITTING
IN A ROOM WATCHING MONITORS.
IT'S MORE IF AN INCIDENT OCCURS
THAT THE FOLKS AT THE
REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER ARE ABLE
TO MAINTAIN SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS AND BE TALKING TO
OFFICERS IN THE FIELD , AND
THAT TYPE OF THING. IT'S LESS
THAN EYES ON MONITORS 24/7.
>> VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OKAY, GREG, I THINK
WE'RE GOING FORWARD.
>> ALL RIGHT. TAKE YOU FOR
CLARIFYING THAT. I MEANT TO
SAY, IF THEY SEE A SHOOTING.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING FORWARD. ALL
RIGHT. SO, I HAD TOLD YOU
EARLIER THAT THERE WAS $5.7
MILLION IN ANNUAL GRANT AWARDS
MOVING INTO THE BUDGET. NOT
GOING TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME
ON THIS SLIDE, BUT YOU NORMALLY
SEE THESE GRANT AWARDS IN
SEPARATE LEGISLATION. SOME OF
THEM INCLUDE RATHER MUNDANE
AWARDS LIKE THE WASHINGTON
STATE TRAFFIC SAFETY COALITION,
PROVIDING FUNDING FOR DUI
PATROLS. SOME OF THEM, HOWEVER,
CONTAIN GRANTS THAT THE COUNCIL
HAS TAKEN MORE INTEREST IN,
LIKE THE URBAN AREA SECURITY
INITIATIVE OR THE HOMELAND
SECURITY PROGRAM. THERE IS
SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THESE
GRANTS THAT IS AVAILABLE TO YOU
AT THE BACK OF MY STAFF MEMO .
THERE IS SOME INFORMATION ,
SOME DETAIL PROVIDED, ON THIS ,
ON THESE GRANT AWARDS. HOWEVER,
IT'S NOT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL
THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST
. IN THE PAST, SPD HAS COME AND
PROVIDED A PRETTY THOROUGH
BRIEFING ON ALL OF THE
PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT
THEY WOULD USE HOMELAND
SECURITY FUNDING FOR. IF THE
FUNDING IS MOVED INTO THE
BUDGET AND PASSED AS PART OF
THIS PROCESS, THAT PROBABLY
WOULD NOT OCCUR. THAT'S A
POLICY DECISION FOR THE
COUNCIL, AND THEIR COMFORT
LEVEL WITH ALLOWING THE GRANTS
TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS BUDGET
OR WANTING TO TAKE A MORE
DETAILED LOOK AT IT. ONE OF THE
REASONS THAT THE EXECUTIVE
WANTS TO BRING THIS FORWARD IS
PART OF THIS PROCESS. BECAUSE
THESE GRANTS ARE ON AN ANNUAL
CYCLE. IT HAPPENS TO BE THE
FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR.SO, BY THE
TIME THE COUNCIL IS ABLE TO DO
THAT MORE DETAILED REVIEW ,
WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE
FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR, AND IT
MAKES SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE
HOMELAND SECURITY A LITTLE
DIFFICULT. SO, THE EXECUTIVE
HAS REQUESTED TO PUT THOSE
FUNDS IN THIS BUDGET. ONE
HAPPY MEDIUM UNDER MY OPTIONS
MIGHT BE THE PROVISO THE
FUNDING ON PROJECTS YOU MAY
HAVE CONCERN ABOUT OR NEED MORE
INFORMATION ON. AND THE ONES
THAT YOU DON'T, DO NOT
PROVISO. SO, THAT IS MY
EXPLANATION. I WILL ASK ANY
QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
>> HELPFUL INFORMATION ABOUT
THE FEDERAL CONTRACTING
TIMELINE. OKAY. NO QUESTIONS
ON THIS ONE . EXCUSE ME.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> SO, I WOULD JUST SAY, IF
THIS IS WHAT I AM THINKING
ABOUT , WE DID HAVE A -- ON
FEBRUARY 23rd, LAST YEAR, 2022,
WE DID HAVE A REPORT THAT WAS
IN RESPONSE TO SLIDE, SPD,
18A, THAT REQUESTED A REPORT ON
THE OUTCOMES OF THE 2021 WORK
THAT WAS FACILITATED BY THESE
GRANTS. SO, GREG, COULD YOU
CONFIRM THAT THIS IS THE SAME
THING?
>> THERE WERE TWO THINGS. ONE
IS THE GRANT AWARD FROM WOSI
THAT WAS DONE IN EARLY LAST
YEAR, WHERE THE DEPARTMENT
CAME AND TALKED ABOUT THE WOSI
AWARD. YOU WILL RECALL THAT
THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT
THE BEARCAT ARMORED VEHICLE ,
AND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE,
THOSE GRANTS HAD BEEN PUT IN
THE FIRST-QUARTER SUPPLEMENTAL.
THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
BEARCAT WAS FACILITATED BY SPD
, AND ONCE THE COUNCIL'S
QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED, THEN
THE SUPPLEMENTAL WAS PASSED.
THERE WAS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION
THAT HAPPENED YEAR BEFORE ON
TASK FORCE REIMBURSEMENTS.
THAT WAS THE RESULT OF A
SLIDE, AND CHIEF DS PRESENTED
SPD'S EFFORTS ON FEDERAL TASK
FORCES . THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
TASK FORCES THAT SPD
PARTICIPATES IN, AND THOSE ARE
NOT IN THIS BUDGET, BUT THEY
ARE PART OF THE YEAR-END
SUBMITTAL BUDGET. THAT IS
ACTUALLY THE NEXT SLIDE. I WAS
JUST GOING TO MAKE YOU AWARE ,
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TASK
FORCES THAT ARE BEING
REIMBURSED. CHIEF DIAZ HAS, IN
THE PAST, GIVEN A PRESENTATION
ON THOSE. THE COUNCIL SEEMED
TO BE SATISFIED WITH THE
DESCRIPTIONS THAT HE WAS GIVING
OF THE OFFICER WHO'S WORKS ON
THIS TASK FORCES, AND THEN,
LAST YEAR, PAST THE
REIMBURSEMENT FOR THOSE TASK
FORCES AS PART OF THE
SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET , AND THE
LAST THING I WILL NOTE ON THAT
IS THAT THAT WORK HAS ALREADY
BEEN DONE. SO, IT REALLY IS THE
CASE THAT -- WE'LL GO AHEAD
AND FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE
-- IS THAT IF -- THIS IS THE
YEAR-END SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET,
AND THE LAST ITEM IS THE 446 ON
THE TASK FORCE'S -- REALLY IS
THE CASE THAT IF THE COUNCIL
CHOSE NOT TO PROVIDE THAT
APPROPRIATION, AND IT JUST
MAKES SPD'S BUDGET NOT A WHOLE
FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE ALREADY
DONE, AND FROM MONEY THAT THE
CITY'S ALREADY RECEIVED.
>> OKAY. SO, I'M HEARING THAT
IT IS LIKELY THE SAME THING
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEN,
AS THIS IS THE FBI GRANTS,
THE DEA -- THESE ARE THE
PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE DEA?
>> YES THAT'S THE 446.
>> GOT IT. AND ANGIE WILL
VOUCH FOR THE FACT THAT I CAN
ADD -- SUBSEQUENT TO THIS
PRESENTATION, IN FEBRUARY, I
KEPT ASKING. WHEN IS THAT
REIMBURSEMENT GOING TO OCCUR?
SO, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE ,
THERE ARE FOUR DIFFERENT TASK
FORCES THAT ARE DETAILED IN
THE RESPONSE TO THAT SLIDE.
THIS WAS PRESENTED IN THAT
MEETING. AND I ADDED UP SOME
OF THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE
GRANTS. I MEAN, THOSE TASK
FORCE PARTNERSHIPS. IN 2021,
THERE WERE 40 KILOS OF COCAINE
, 105 KILOS OF METHAMPHETAMINE,
90,000 PILLS OF FENTANYL .
LET'S SEE, 93.4 KILOS OF
FENTANYL POWDER, RIGHT NOW ,
WHICH SEEMS LIKE A SMALL AMOUNT
CONSIDERING THE VOLUMES WE'RE
DEALING WITH NOW. HEROIN, 35
KILOS. THEN, 163 FIREARMS. I
THINK THAT WAS FOR A SHORTER
AMOUNT OF TIME. SO, I DO
REMEMBER THINKING THAT THESE
ARE VERY VALUABLE PARTNERSHIPS
THAT WE GOT GOING THAT ARE
MAKING -- THAT ARE DOING SOME
HEAVY LIFTING TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE GUNS AND THE DRUGS
DON'T HIT OUR STREETS. SO, I
HOPE THAT THERE IS SOME
APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT
THESE TASKFORCES DO, AND THAT
WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR
DEPARTMENT TO GET REIMBURSED
FOR MONEY THAT IS ALREADY
ALLOCATED, BECAUSE THESE
OFFICERS, I ASSUME, ARE DOING
OVERTIME TO SERVE ON THESE.
SOME OF OUR TASKFORCES ARE
DOING SO.
>> THAT'S CORRECT
>> THANKS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SO, THAT'S THE PRESENTATION.
>> OKAY. WELL, YOU DID A GREAT
JOB, GREG , THANKS FOR YOUR
PATIENCE WITH US, AND EXECUTIVE
FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL. JUST
ON THAT LAST SLIDE, GREG, JUST
SO I DON'T MISUNDERSTAND HERE,
USUALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO GRANT
ACCEPTANCE FOR THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE COUNCIL
IS IN THE POSITION OF ACCEPTING
OR DENYING THE GRANTS. RIGHT?
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A REVIEW
OVER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE
DOLLARS. THIS IS NOT CHANGING
THAT ABILITY TO AUTHORIZE
ACCEPTANCE FOR SPECIFIC GRANTS
OR PROJECTS?
>> YES. THAT'S TRUE.
>> OKAY.
>> AND THAT IS TRUE OF BOTH THE
SUPPLEMENT A BUDGET GRANTS HERE
OR THE GRANTS THAT THE
EXECUTIVE PROPOSES TO PUT IN
SPD'S AND WILL BUDGET THE SLIDE
BEFORE.
>> GREAT. I AM LOOKING FOR ANY
ADDITIONAL HANDS . WE ARE AT
THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
NO ADDITIONAL HANDS? ALL RIGHT.
LET ME JUST SAY, THANKS AGAIN.
THANKS FOR WALKING US THROUGH
THIS PRINCIPLES OF ANALYSIS.
OH, DEPUTY MAYOR BURGESS , WAS
THAT A HAND?
>> THAT WAS A THUMBS UP.
>> COOL . THANK YOU. THANKS
AGAIN TO THE TEAM FROM THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT FOR BEING PART OF
THIS CONVERSATION. OBVIOUSLY,
THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT
WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH
YOU ON, BUT I THINK VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION
THAT WE HAVE ALL HAD TODAY ,
AND TO GREG, THANK YOU AND YOUR
COLLEAGUES WITH THE CENTRAL
STAFF WHO HAS DOVE INTO THE
PROPOSED BUDGET AND PROVIDED
THE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS ,
HERE, FOR US TODAY. COLLEAGUES,
WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO MEET WITH YOU. I'M GOING TO
BE REACHING OUT AND TALKING TO
EACH OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS ON
MONDAY AFTERNOON. HOPE YOU
WILL JOIN US ON MONDAY AT 10:00
A.M. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TUNE
IN, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH
PUBLIC , AS REQUESTED BY OUR
COLLEAGUES, THEN WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE THREE PANELS, THE REVISED
AGENDA THAT JUST WENT OUT, SOME
ADDITIONAL MATERIALS INCLUDED
IN THAT AGENDA FOR MONDAY TO
HEAR DIRECTLY FROM COMMUNITY
PARTNERS. AGAIN, THIS IS OUR
EFFORT TO CONTINUE ON THE THEME
OF TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY, MEASURING AND
SHOWING WHERE PUBLIC DOLLARS
ARE GOING. WE'LL HAVE A TF OF
THAT DISCUSSION ON MONDAY. AND
WITH THAT, I KNOW THERE WERE
MANY MORE CONVERSATIONS TO BE
HAD HERE, BUT I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR ROBUST
PARTICIPATION OVER THE LAST
THREE DAYS, AND WE'LL SEE YOU
AT 10:00 A.M. MONDAY.HEARING NO
OBJECTION, TODAY'S MEETING IS
ADJOURNED. WE'LL SEE YOU ON
MONDAY AT 10:00 A.M. THANKS,
EVERYBODY.
>> THANK YOU .