>>>GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. THAN
YOU FOR JOINING THE SEATTLE CIT
COUNCIL. TODAY IS FRIDAY,
OCTOBER 13th, 2023. I'M SEEM
HUMAN CHAIR TERESA MOSQUEDA.
MADAME CLARK, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL ROLE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD
COUNCILMEMBER DEBORAH JUAREZ?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER TAMMY MORALES.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SARA NELSON.
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN.
COUNCILMEMBER KSHAMA SAWANT.
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR TERESA MOSQUEDA.
COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD.
>> PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU. NINE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU
FOR JOINING DAY 3-3. WE ARE
MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF THE
CENTRAL STAFF COMMITTEE TO ALTE
THE ISSUE IDENTIFICATION. THIS
IS WHAT THEY HAVE TOGETHER FOR
US. WE ARE PLEASED TO BE JOINED
AGAIN BY THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE
DIRECTOR. WE HAVE MEMBERS OF TH
EXECUTIVE'S TEAM. THIS IS
THROUGHOUT THE DAY. FOLKS ON TH
MAYOR'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS THE
DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, ARE
PROVIDING TECHNICAL SUPPORT AND
FEEDBACK. THIS IS WHAT THEY
SPECIFICALLY MAY HAVE. TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAIL,
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF DOES NOT
HAVE DETAILS ON HAND. WE DECIDE
TO HAVE THE FULL AGENDA IN FRON
OF US. WE HAVE THE ENTIRE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
PRESENTERS INCLUDE CENTRAL STAF
MEMBERS, ALONG WITH DIRECTOR
RICK SCOTT. THIS IS FROM THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION, ALONG WITH THE
CITY BUDGET DIRECTOR. THE SECON
ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WILL BE THE
COMMUNICATION SAFETY. THEY HAVE
ENGAGEMENT CARE. OTHERWISE,
KNOWN AS THE CARE DEPARTMENT.
THIS ITEM WILL BE PRESENTED BY
GREG DOSS, ALONG WITH COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF. SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AS WELL. ALONG WITH
DIRECTORS FROM THE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY BUDGET
OFFICE. DEPUTY MAYOR, TIM
BURGESS. AT THE LAST ITEM ON OU
AGENDA, WENT TO THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE WILL MOST
LIKELY COME THROUGH AFTER THE
RECESS. THEY WILL RECONVENE AT
2:00 P.M.. WE WILL RECOVER THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE
PRESENTERS THERE INCLUDE GREG
DOSS, LEADING THE CENTRAL STAFF
PRESENTATION. WE HAVE CHIEF
ADRIAN DIAZ. THIS IS FROM SPD.
ALONG WITH US, WILL BE THE
DIRECTOR OF THE CITY BUDGET
OFFICE. AGAIN, THIS ONLY LASTED
THREE DEPARTMENTS. THERE IS A
DEPARTMENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE
BEEN TRACKING. YOU HAVE SOME
INTEREST IN FLAGGING FOR CENTRA
STAFF, OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. I
WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHARE
SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS, BEFORE
JUMPING INTO IT. THERE IS NO
OBLIGATION TO FLAG ANYTHING AT
THAT POINT. YOU'RE TRACKING
SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET THAT
HASN'T BEEN FLAGGED IN THE LAST
THREE DAYS. AFTER THE SHORT
MEETING, WE HAVE A SHORT SESSIO
ON MONDAY TO WORK THROUGH SOME
OF THE INITIAL OUTCOMES FOR
PREVIOUS INVESTMENTS. WE HAVE
ALL THESE TERMS ABOUT HOW WE
WANT TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY,
THE COUNT ABILITY, AND IMPROVE
TRACKING FROM THE PUBLIC
DOLLARS BEING PUT TO GOOD USE.
ON MONDAY, THAT MEETING AGAIN
WILL START AT 10:00 A.M. IF
THERE IS NO OBJECTION, TODAY'S
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING
NO OBJECTION, TODAY'S AGENDA IS
ADOPTED. WE ACCEPT PUBLIC
COMMENT ON WEDNESDAY MORNING.
THAT STARTED FOR OVER ONE HOUR
AND 15 MINUTES. PROVIDED THE
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS THREE
DAY SPAN. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND
MOVE ON INTO ITEMS OF BUSINESS.
WE HAVE A REMINDER FOR THE
PUBLIC. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED I
AND PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL HAV
IT AT 10:00 A.M. AS WELL. CAN
YOU PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER ONE
INTO THE RECORD?
>> DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> WONDERFUL. BEFORE I TURN IT
OVER TO THE CENTERS FROM CENTRA
STAFF, I WANT TO GIVE
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN,
AND THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT SHOWING ONSCREEN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF WE COULD
SWITCH THAT BACK OVER TO US,
THANK YOU. PERFECT. I WANT TO
GIVE COUNCILMEMBER ALEX
PEDERSEN, TO WELCOME US TO THIS
TOPIC. THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION IS IN HIS
PURVIEW, AND HIS COMMITTEE. THI
IS A DIFFERENT BRIEFING.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR TERESA
MOSQUEDA. I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE OPENING
MARKS AS THE TRANSPORTATION
CHAIR. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT
I'M TRYING TO LOOK FORWARD TO
EACH COUNCILMEMBER. ESPECIALLY
DISTRICT COUNCILMEMBERS TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE GETTING THE
TRANSPORTATION PRODUCTS. WE
EACH KNOW HOW DISTRICTS BETTER
THAN ANY OTHER PERSON OR
DEPARTMENT. YOU HAVE THE
DISTRICT COUNCILMEMBER. YOU
IDENTIFY THE NEED FROM YOUR
CONSTITUENTS. YOU NEED A
SIDEWALK. YOU SHOULD GET THE
SIDEWALK. THE CITY COUNCIL
SHOWS A TOP PRIORITY WITH THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION. WE NEED TO DO
MORE TO ACHIEVE RESULTS FOR
SAFER STREETS. THAT IS WHY WE
WANT TO SEE ZERO TRAFFIC SAFETY
PROGRAMS, AND BETTER RESULTS. W
HAVE GREAT SPOTS, PRIORITIZING
SAFETIES. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE
THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER SERVED AS
THE CHIEF SAFETY OFFICER. TOP T
BOTTOM REVIEWS OF THE VISION
ZERO SAFETY PROGRAMS. TRAFFIC
RELATED FATALITIES, WE KNOW THE
PEDESTRIANS IN SOUTH SEATTLE AR
PRESENT THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
LARGEST PRIORITY IS PRIORITIZIN
THEM. WE NEED TO SEE SIDEWALKS
IN AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE
TODAY. ESPECIALLY AROUND LAKE
CITY. WE HAVE AREAS IN NORTH
SEATTLE. EVERYTHING WAS KILLED
BY VEHICLES. ESPECIALLY THOSE
NEAR ARTERIALS. THIS IS ONE OF
THE PARTS OF THAT SOLUTION. WE
HAVE THE TRAFFIC CAMERA SAFETY.
IT WAS NOT ONLY PART OF THE
DISCOURAGED SPEEDING PROCESS.
THEY PROVIDE FUNDING FOR
PROJECTS. THEY HAVE DOUBLE
TRAFFIC CAMERAS. THEY KEEP THEM
SAFE. WE ARE KICKING THE CAN
DOWN THE ROAD, WE ARE PROVIDIN
ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR CAMERAS IN
SCHOOL ZONES. THIS IS THEY CAN
PRODUCE. ANOTHER ASPECT IS
BRIDGES. WE BECAME PAINFULLY
AWARE OF THOSE FROM THE WEST
SEATTLE BRIDGE, AND AUDIT OF TH
CITY ON BRIDGES OF 2020. THE
STRUCTURES THAT CONNECT OUR
COMMUNITIES, ARE OWED. WE HAVE
DONE THIS FOR YEARS. ALMOST ALL
THE TRANSPORTATIONS RELY ON
BRIDGET NETWORK TO KEEP OUR
ECONOMY MOVING. ESPECIALLY FOR
THE BUS NETWORK. THE CARE IS TH
MOST PEOPLE IN THE MOST
EFFICIENT WAY. YOU HAVE
COLLEAGUES STEPPING UP. YOUR
PRIORITIZING IT. THE EXECUTIVES
FALL SHORT ON THE BRIDGE SAFETY
THIS IS LEADING UP TO THE
LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AGAIN TO SEE
WHAT THEY HAD DONE. I KNOW WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC MASS
TRANSIT. ANOTHER PRIORITY. A
SHARED PRIORITY. WE CAN MOVE
MOST PEOPLE INTO THE
ENVIRONMENT. IT IS THE
AFFORDABLE WAY. THEY HAVE A
PROPOSED SPENDING PLAN FOR THE
SEATTLE TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT
DISTRICT. THIS IS BECAUSE THE
DETAILS MATTER FOR THE $50
MILLION. APPROXIMATELY PER YEAR
PROGRAM. WE DID RECEIVE DETAILS
THIS WEEK GRADE WE HAVE A KEY
QUESTION. WE WANT TO DRILL INTO
IT. WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE
ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY ON VAGUE
CATEGORIES. WE HAVE PUBLIC
RELATED ISSUES, AND ISSUES
RELATED TO CLOSURE. WEST SEATTL
BRIDGE. WE INSTEAD HAVE CAPITAL
PROJECT NEEDS THAT WE SHOULD BE
ADDRESSING. I LOOK FORWARD TO
HEARING FROM THE TRANSIT
ADVISORY BOARD. THIS HAS AN
OFFICIAL OVERSIGHT THAT WAS A
VOTER APPROVED FUND. WE ALSO
HAVE THE ISSUE OF FUNDING. WE
ARE SEEKING TAX REFORM IN OUR
CITY. WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE WHO
PROFIT FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION,
SHARE AND THE IMPACT OF THAT NE
CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS FROM
CHIPPING IN WITH EVERYONE ELSE.
THEY'RE PAYING WITH THE
TRANSPORTATION BUDGET. THIS IS
FROM THE SALES TAXES, AND THE
PROPERTY TAXES. I WILL ADDRESS
THAT MORE WHEN WE GET TO THE
SEATTLE ITEM ON THIS
PRESENTATION. I WANT TO THANK
CENTRAL STAFF FOR THE QUICK
ANALYSIS OF THE UPDATED BUDGET.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MORNING'
DISCUSSION. THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS.
THERE ARE TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT
NEED TO BE RAISED, THANKS AGAIN
GOOD MORNING.
>> MY PRESENTATION WILL FOLLOW
THE STAFF MEMO. PLEASE GO INTO
THE CONVERSATION. HOW DO YOU
KEEP THE FIRST SLIDE? I WOULD
LIKE TO THINK OF THE SUMMARY
TABLE. THEY HAVE ANOTHER 24
BUDGET. THEY HAVE OTHER
APPROPRIATIONS TO 2024. WE HAV
THIS SLIDE ON THE TABLE. THEY
ARE INCREASING BY 23 BUDGETS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE CHANGE IN
TOTAL STOCK BUDGET DID WE HAVE
ANOTHER MEMO. THIS IS ANOTHER
HIGHLIGHT. THEY ARE TRYING TO
BE IN TO THE 2024 RULES. THESE
ARE INCREASING BY 142 MILLION.
THIS IS REFLECTING A $3 MILLION
THIS IS FROM 2023, PROPOSED TO
BE ABANDONED RENTALS. THIS IS
PART OF AN ONGOING PROJECT
DELIVERY REVIEW AND EXERCISE.
THEY ARE NOT ENGAGING SINCE THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS. TO BE MORE
TRANSPARENT, THEY WERE
COMPLETING THE OTHER PROJECTS.
THIS WAS AT A PRORATED DOLLAR
AMOUNT. IT IS A USEFUL PROJECT
DELIVERY EXERCISE. THEY ARE
DRAWING THEIR NUMBER ON THE
SUMMARY. THE OPERATING EXPENSE
ARE INCREASING FROM 24 ENDORSED
BUDGET. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS
IS GOING TO SHOW THE REVENUES
FROM THE SOURCE. I JUST KNOW
THAT THESE ARE NOT PARTICULARLY
SPEAKING TO THE ACTUAL REVENUES
GENERATED. THESE ARE THE FUNDS
THAT ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT FUND
BALANCE. ON THE SECOND LINE, WE
WILL SEE ANOTHER THE COUNT. THI
SHOWS A 6.7% INCREASE OVER THE
SOURCE OF 2024 BUDGET. THIS WAS
ALL MISLEADING. THIS WAS
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL
MEMBERS. THIS WAS ABOUT ALL THE
POSITIONS. THIS WAS CURRENTLY
OFF OF OTHER POSITIONS. THIS IS
BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION. ARE THE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SUMMARY? I
WILL MOVE AHEAD. THIS PROGRAM
USES CAMERAS IN THE OTHER ZONES
TO CATCH SPEED VIOLATIONS. WE
WERE LOOKING AT POLICE OFFICERS
THEY HAD OTHER CITY VEHICLES.
THEY REQUESTED THE STATE TAXES.
IN THE 2023 ADOPTED BUDGET, THI
IS SUPPLEMENTAL. THIS IS IN
RESPONSE TO THE LATEST INTENT.
THEY WERE TRYING TO EXPAND THIS
PROGRAM. THIS IS FOR ANY OF TH
ONES THAT WERE USED. THIS WAS
THE 2024 OPPOSED BUDGET. WE HAV
ANOTHER RESULT. THEY WERE
PRIORITIZING THEM. THEY HAVE TH
PROPOSED BUDGET. THEY WERE
TRYING TO SPEND FUNDS. THANK
YOU FOR THE POSITIVE DISCUSSION
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I WANT TO THANK THE CITY
COUNCIL COLLEAGUES FOR DOUBLING
THE CITY SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS. I
WAS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF
VISION ZERO. I WANTED TO DO THA
RATHER THAN EXPRESSING OBVIOUS
DISAPPOINTMENT THAT I HAVE ABOU
THIS. I WANT TO READ THE LETTER
THAT WE GOT YESTERDAY FROM THE
SEATTLE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY
BOARD. THEY SENT US A LETTER
JUST YESTERDAY. I WANT TO THANK
THEM FOR QUICKLY LOOKING AT THE
BUDGET, AND GETTING THIS INTO
US. THEY HAVE ECKSTEIN
COUNCILMEMBERS. THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT CAMERA PROGRAMS. THEY
HAVE SCHOOL ENFORCEMENT RED
LIGHT RUNNING ENFORCEMENT, AND
DON'T BLOCK THE BOX. THESE
PROGRAMS, OFFER AN EQUITABLE,
NONINVASIVE WAY TO PROVIDE QUIC
WINS FOR THE SAFETY AND
EFFICIENCY OF THE TRANSPORTATIO
SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY FOR
PEDESTRIANS. THEY CONTINUE WHEN
THE CITY IS TRYING TO REDOUBLE
ITS EFFORTS TO PROVIDE
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. IT IS
SELF-DEFEATING. THEY HAVE
SCHOOL SAFETY PRODUCTS RELATED
TO THE REDUCED REVENUE, NOT
ISSUING TICKETS FROM HIS
AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.
THAT IS JUST THE FIRST PART OF
THE LETTER. CAN MAKE THAT
AVAILABLE ONLINE AS WELL. I
THINK WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OU
A WAY TO GET THE EXECUTIVE TO
DO THIS MORE. THIS IS WITHIN
2024. I KNOW THAT IS A CHALLENG
WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH TWO
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. YOU HAVE
SPD, ON THE OTHER. WE WERE JUS
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAK
THIS WORK. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS
ITEM? I WILL ALSO ECHO
McCAULEY'S COMMENTS. WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE VIEWING
PUBLIC HAS THE INTEREST. THIS I
ALL ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND
COMMUNITY SAFETY. USING POLICY
TOOLS, WE ARE TRYING TO SLOW
DOWN TRAFFIC, AND IMPROVE PUBLI
SAFETY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT
REVENUE GENERATION. THIS IS
ABOUT INSTALLING TRAFFIC CAMERA
AS A MEASURE, ESPECIALLY TO
PROTECT THE KIDDOS. I AGREE WIT
THE CONCERNS AROUND THIS. OF
COURSE, I AM HEARING MORE ABOUT
THE PLACEMENT AND ACTIVATION OF
THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, AND
WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD
PRIORITIZATION IS. I SEE
COUNCILMEMBER TAMMY MORALES,
THEN COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD
>> SORRY, I WAS A LITTLE SLOW
RAISING HAND. I JUST WANT TO
REITERATE THE CHAIR.
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN,
AND THE TRANSPORTATION SHARES,
AND THE PRIORITY AROUND THIS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT EVEN A SMALL
INVESTMENT LIKE THIS, CAN HAVE
DRAMATIC IMPACT ON THE SAFETY O
OUR NEIGHBORS. THIS IS OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS WITHIN IT.
I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR MANY
YEARS NOW AS THE PERSON
REPRESENTING THE PART OF THE
CITY, WILL TELL THIS IS A
PRIORITY. WE HAVE QUESTIONS AS
WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THEY ARE FUNDING OTHER PROGRAMS
AND OTHER APPLE PROJECTS ARE
USED TO COVER IT. THIS IS THE
ACCESSIBILITY AND SAFETY FOR
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. THIS
IS FOR KIDS AND ELDERS. FOR
ANYBODY WHO RELIES ON MOBILITY
THAT IS NOT A PERSONAL SCOPE. W
ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE
DEPARTMENT IS FILLING THE SMALL
GAP. THEY HAVE OTHER RESOURCES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE
NOT GOING TO BE GENERATING THE
REVENUE FROM. I LOOK FORWARD TO
THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND I
REALLY WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS
IS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
THE SAFETY OF OUR LITTLE SEATTL
LIGHTS, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WE
CAN'T NOT DO THIS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK I WILL
TAKE ALL OF THE HANDS. I WAS HE
OF COURSE IF ANYBODY HAS
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT.
THEY HAVE ANOTHER RESPONSE
NECESSARY AT THIS MOMENT. THEY
WERE AROUND, WANTING TO SEE THI
ADVANCE. IS THERE A COMMENT THA
YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
>> YES. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I
APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS. I
JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE
THAT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF
CAMERAS IS DEPENDENT ON THE
ENFORCEMENT AS WELL. YOU ARE NO
READY TO GET THE CAMERAS OUT
THERE. I'M LOOKING AT THE
VIOLATIONS RECORDED. THIS IS A
STAFFING ISSUE. THEY WERE
GETTING THESE INCIDENTS
REVIEWED. IT'S ALSO VERY
IMPORTANT. THE ISSUE IS MORE
THAN JUST ANOTHER ISSUE. WE JUS
WANT TO BE GREAT FOR FOLKS.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO THE
PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR.
>> GOOD SEGUE INDEED. I JUST
WANT THE ONGOING INTEREST THAT
HAVE HEARD. THIS IS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES. THIS IS FROM THE
OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL
RELATIONS. WE WERE TRYING TO
EXPLORE WHETHER OR NOT STATE LA
NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO EXPAND
THE DEFINITION OF WHO CAN REVIE
THE TICKETS. WE HAVE THE POWER
TO GIVE SPECIAL COMMISSIONS
AFTER A NON-SWORN STAFF. WE HAV
A LACK OF CLARITY. THIS IS
WHETHER OR NOT THE SPECIAL
COMMISSIONS THAT CAN BE GIVEN T
CIVILIANS INCLUDE TRAFFIC ZONE
CAMERAS, AND OTHER TYPES OF
CAMERA ENFORCEMENT TICKETS. IF
IT DOES NOT, THEN IT IS VERY
APPARENT TO ME THAT WE NEED TO
CHANGE STATE LAWS. THEY HAVE TO
GIVE AUTHORIZATIONS TO
CIVILIANS, TO REVIEW THESE
TICKETS. THIS IS FROM THE
DETERRENT USEFULNESS OF THESE
CAMERAS. IT IS REALLY BOUND TO
THE ABILITY OF THEIR
ENFORCEMENT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I THINK COUNCILMEMBER TAMMY
MORALES, THAT IS AN OLD HAND.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CONTACTS OR
FEEDBACK AT THIS FUNCTION?
>> I DON'T THINK ANYTHING NEEDS
IT. NO, COUNCILMEMBER. THEY
WERE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD.
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE GET TO THE
NEXT SLIDE? THE NEXT ITEM, IS
SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR
THE SCHOOL ZONE REVENUE. THEY
HAVE REDUCED THE SCHOOL ZONE
CAMERA PROGRAM. THEY HAVE
SEATTLE TIMES. THEY HAVE
POTENTIALLY 100,000 VIOLATIONS
THAT ARE LOOKING TO BE
PROCESSED. WE ARE EXPLOITING
THIS ISSUE FURTHER. WE DON'T
HAVE ANY MORE AT THIS TIME. WE
HAVE A REDUCED CAMERA REVENUE.
THIS REDUCES SPENDING FOR THE
ROAD SAFETY INITIATIVE PROGRAM.
WE ARE OTHER OBLIGATIONS. S
DOT, IS LOOKING AT THE ZERO
FUNDING. THEY WERE CONSIDERING
DIFFERENT SPENDING SPREE THEY
DON'T HAVE CHANGES.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR TERESA
MOSQUEDA. I APPRECIATE THE
ANALYSIS . IT IS IMPORTANT TO
KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO MEET
THE OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE
SETTLEMENT. THERE FOR, MY
INTENTION IS GOING TOWARDS THES
OTHER TWO PROJECTS. THEY HAVE
THE ROAD SAFETY INITIATIVES.
THIS IS FROM THE BIKE MASTER
PLAN. I JUST WANT TO SIGNAL MY
INTEREST, AND RESTORE THOSE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNSEL PRESENT.
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT THE
PRODUCTIONS DELIVERED IN 2024.
THIS IS FROM 2017. IS THERE A
NUMBER CATCH TO THAT?
>> IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE
TO GET BACK TO YOU ON. IT
REQUIRES A COMPREHENSIVE
PROVISION OF THE RAMPS. IT IS
NOT JUST ON DIRECT LIBERTY. IT
LOOKS LIKE HE HAS SOMETHING LIK
THIS AS WELL.
>> MORNING, EVERYONE. I WANTED
TO MENTION TWO THINGS. THIS IS
THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISION I
WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SO FAR. THIS
WAS SO IMPORTANT. THEY WERE
LOOKING AT DIFFERENT GOALS. THE
WERE CUTTING THE RAMPS AND
STUFF. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE
THE SETTLEMENT, PARTLY BECAUSE
OF THE EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF
PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PASSWORD
ISSUES. THIS IS FROM THE PAST
FEW YEARS. THEY WERE LOOKING AT
THE BANK THAT WAS AT 600 ROOMS.
THEY HAVE OTHER AXES RAMPS IN
THE BANK. THEY HAVE THE LEAST
AMOUNT OF CUTS THAT NEED TO BE
MADE. I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZ
THE REDUCED REVENUE PROJECTIONS
AND THE CAUSES. THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT CHOICES.
>> LET ME REFUND MY QUESTION.
THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE PRICE
TAG FROM THE ROAD SAFETY
PROGRAMS. THEY HAVE PUBLIC
SAFETY, AND SPD OFFICERS, MAKIN
DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
>> THEY WERE LOOKING AT OTHER
OBLIGATIONS. THEY HAVE A
DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
THAT IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. I
AM NOT DONE WITH THE FIRST CUP
OF COFFEE.
>> IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CITY
ACTIVITIES.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> I THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING
THIS CORRECTLY. THIS IS THE
ANSWER. WE ARE REQUIRED TO
PRODUCE 1000 COMPLIANCE RAMPS.
THAT IS THE NUMBER. THEY HAD
ANOTHER OPERATION. THIS IS FROM
A DIFFERENT FLIGHT BASE. THEY
HAVE OTHER INSTRUCTOR SPOTS.
THESE PROGRAMS OFTEN COME INTO
THAT NUMBER A VARIETY OF WAYS.
THEY WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT.
THIS WAS A DIFFERENT ACTION. W
ALSO OF COURSE, REGULATE WHAT
HAPPENS. I HAVE ANOTHER BIG
DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE A
SIDEWALK WALK TOWARD
>> WHAT DO WE JUST ASK? I DON'T
WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT. I DO
YOU GET THEM OFF-LINE? IS THIS
BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS? HOW MUCH
DO YOU THINK THEY SPEND? I HAVE
A DIFFERENT LAWSUIT. COULD YOU
GIVE ME A DIFFERENT NUMBER?
>> THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT
CORRIDORS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT
PROJECT. THEY INVOLVE PROGRAMS.
THEY HAVE LARGE CAPITAL PROJECT
BUDGETS. THEY'RE TRYING TO DIG
IN DEEP TO SEE ALL OF THESE
INDIVIDUAL. THEY HAVE DONE
PROJECTS SUCH AS THAT.
>> YOU HAVE TO BE NEEDING THE
SETTLEMENT NEEDS. THEY ARE
TRYING TO READ ALL OF THESE
CURBS. YOU MUST NEED A NUMBER.
>> THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
>> IS THE DELIVERY OF THE
PARAGRAPH CELLS. THEY HAVE
LOOKED AT DELIVERING THOSE. WE
ARE LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL
NUMBER.
>> THAT IS NOT IT. THEY WERE
TRYING TO LOOK AT IT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR ANSWERS. COUNSEL
PRESENT, I APPRECIATE YOUR
QUESTIONING AS WELL. SIMILAR TO
WHAT I HAD. I APOLOGIZE. THEY
REALLY SKIM THROUGH THE MEMO.
THEY HAVE ANOTHER CURB RAMP. IT
HAS BEEN INSTALLED. WE RELY ON
PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE
WORKING HARD TO MEET OUR GOALS
FOR THE NECESSARY NUMBER OF
RAMPS. THIS IS RIGHT IN THE
CITY. THEY HAVE INEQUITY ISSUES
THEY ARE BEING EXACERBATED. WE
ARE EXACERBATING THE FUNDING.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT EFFORTS IN
THIS BUDGET. THEY WERE NOT
PROVIDING THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT
FROM THE PRIVATE MARKET. THEY
ARE JUST NOT CREATING DIFFERENT
RAMPS.
>> THIS IS LONG-TERM. I THINK
ANY ONE YEAR, THEY WERE TRYING
TO LOOK AT HOW IT IS BEING
DEVELOPED.
>> THEY HAVE IS DIFFERENT METHO
BEING APPLIED THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT FUNDING IS GOING TO B
REDUCED. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE
DOING. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME.
THIS IS FROM THE LAST FEW
BUDGETS.
>> I AM NOT SURE THAT IT IS
NECESSARILY THE FAMILY PROJECTS
THAT IS OBVIOUSLY REDUCING THE
AVAILABLE'S. THIS IS ELSEWHERE
IN THE CITY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN,
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT
CORRECTLY? DO WE HAVE ANOTHER
TURNAROUND?
>> I THINK THAT WE WANT TO
RESTORE THESE POTENTIAL CUTS
THAT WE ARE SEEING HERE ON THIS
SLIDE. THIS IS FOR THE ROAD
SAFETY INITIATIVE. IN TERMS OF
OTHER VISIONS, DIFFERENT
PROJECTS, THIS IS THE MORE THAT
WE SPEND, THE BETTER ON THE
VISION ZERO. I APPRECIATE THAT
THERE WOULD BE THE ABILITY IN
THE CIRCLE. THEY WERE TRYING TO
GET IT GOING.
>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE FOLLOW-U
QUESTIONS. WE KNOW WE CAN HAVE
THAT ROUNDED OUT DISCUSSION.
>> THE THIRD ISSUE IS THE
CULTURE, PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS TH
SERVICE STREETCAR PROJECT. THE
HAVE THIS MAY OR FOR THE
DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION PLANS. THIS
WAS THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET.
THEY ARE TRYING TO USE THE
EXISTING BUDGETS. THE RESULTS O
THAT PRODUCT ASSESSMENT, ARE
EXPECTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR
THEY COULD PROVIDE THE BASIS FO
A COMPANY PROJECT. THIS IS THE
PROPOSED BUDGET. IT HAS NOT
UPDATED ANY FIGURES. THIS WAS
ALL UNDERSTOOD. THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT OPERATIONS. THEY'RE
TRYING TO CONSIDER IT. WE ARE
TRAINED IN THE PROJECT. THIS IS
A DIFFERENT CHANGE.
>> WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS
I'M NOT SEEING ANY.
COUNCILMEMBER, I SEE YOUR HAND.
>> THERE WE GO.
>> THIS WAS GOING TO MOVE.
>> RAISING THE HAND BUTTON.
>> I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE
ANTICIPATING IT. WE KNOW THAT
THE COUNSEL IN THE MIDYEAR
BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, DECLINED TO
FUND THE TUNE OF ABOUT $1
MILLION. THIS WAS ANOTHER STUDY
THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON. THEY
WERE TRYING TO HELP DECIDE
WHETHER OR NOT WHETHER ANOTHER
CAUSE WAS LIFTED WORRIED I KNO
COUNSEL, WE ARE PROVIDING THE
FUNDING. WE LOOK AT THE
EXECUTIVES. THEY MOVE FORWARD
WITH THAT WORD FINDING. THIS IS
WITHIN THEIR BUDGET TO COVER IT
THEY WERE TRYING TO COVER THE
COST OF THAT WORK. I AM CURIOUS
THIS IS DESPITE THAT VOTE. I AM
CURIOUS AS TO THE TIMING OF THA
REPORT. THEY WERE TRYING TO
LOOK AT A DIFFERENT YEAR. THEY
WERE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT WHEN WE CAN EXPECT TO
RECEIVE THAT. THEY WERE TRYING
TO IDENTIFY. THEY WERE TRYING
TO LET US KNOW. THIS IS FROM TH
BUDGET. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
COSTS. THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT
CULTURE CONNECTION FROM THESE
CLASSES. I WONDER IF YOU CAN
TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU MEAN BY
THESE OPTIONS. HOW ARE YOU
LOOKING AT THESE FUNDS IN 2024?
ARE YOU BUILDING THE COUNCIL AN
THE MAYOR? DO THEY HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WHETHER
OR NOT THESE ARE INTO IT?
>> I DID PUT ANOTHER LISTENING
ACTION.
>> THIS IS WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE.
THEY HAVE INTERESTING
STATEMENTS. THIS IS WHERE THEY
HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. THES
ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THE
PROJECT. IT IS NOT CORRECT TO
SAY THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT TH
PROJECT. IT IS AT THIS POINT. I
HAS TO BE CONSIDERED TO MOVE
FORWARD. IT PROVIDES DIFFERENT
STRUCTURES. THEY HAVE APPROVED
THE TEACHER ACTIONS. THEY HAVE
ANOTHER POSSIBLE OPTION. THAT
DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A
STRONG IMPACT ON THE 2024
OPPOSED TO, THEY HAVE A SOCIAL
WORKER THAT COULD BE REPLICATED
FOR YEARS. THEY'RE TRYING TO
EXTEND THAT INTEREST PROJECT AS
ONE EXAMPLE. THERE PROVIDING
OTHER ADDRESS ISSUES. THE
COUNCIL FOUND OTHER AVAILABLE
RESOURCES FOR THE PROPOSED
FUNDINGS. THIS IS WHAT THEY WER
TRYING TO PROVIDE. OTHERWISE,
THEY COULD HAVE STOPPED IT.
>> THIS WAS PART OF THE 2023
ADOPTED BUDGET. THEY DID NOT
LIST ANY BONDING FROM THESE
PROPENSITIES MEASURES. THEY
HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE. I THIN
IT HAS NOT BEEN USED FOR
EXISTING STREETCAR OPERATIONS.
THEY HAVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET
THAT WAS 5 MILLION DEEP. THIS I
FROM THE COOPERATION. I DON'T
THINK IT IS INTERESTING. LOOK A
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE
SENT FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE.
THIS WAS WHEN THE DECISION WAS
MADE. THEY HAD THE EXISTING
OBLIGATIONS. THIS WAS WITH THE
RATIONALE. THIS IS HOW IT WAS
COMMUNICATED INTO THE COUNSEL.
THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED, AND
THEY UNDERSTAND MORE ON WHAT
THEY RECEIVED. THEY HAD ANOTHER
EXISTENCE OF THE EXISTING
STREETCAR OPERATIONS. THEY WERE
LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THE 2023-2024 PROPOSED BUDGET
ADJUSTMENT. I DON'T RECALL THA
BEING A CONVERSATION THAT WE
HAVE. THIS IS MORE ABOUT THE
EXISTING STREETCAR, NOT THE
NEWLY PLANNED CULTURE CONNECTOR
I THINK THERE IS A LINK TO THE
TWO ISSUES, BECAUSE OF THIS
QUESTION. WE HAVE DIFFERENT
RESOURCES AVAILABLE. THIS IS
PART OF THE NEW STREETCAR. THEY
WERE TRYING TO OPERATE IT. I'M
JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD TAL
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THINKING
OF USING THESE FUNDS TO OPERATE
THE EXISTING STREETCAR, AND HOW
THAT MIGHT IMPACT RESOURCES
IN THE FUTURE. THEY ALSO OPERAT
CULTURE CONNECTORS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, IF I COULD BE
YOUR INDULGENCE TO GET TO THAT
ISSUE. I HAVE A SCHOOL SLIDE
DEDICATED TO THE EXISTING
OPERATIONS. THE KEY POINT, IS
THAT IT HIGHLIGHTS THE ONGOING
CITY SUBSIDIES AS IT OPERATES T
OTHER NETWORKS. IS THE ISSUE
WITH THE CULTURE CONNECTOR. WE
DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS
ADDITIONAL OPERATIONS. THIS IS
PART OF THE FINANCIAL PLAN. WE
ARE TRYING TO SUPPORT HOW WE
INTEND TO RUN THE SYSTEM. I
WOULD NOTE THAT WHILE THE
CULTURE CONNECTOR WOULD LOOK AT
THE OTHER STREETCARS, THEY WOUL
DO A LOT FOR IMPROVING THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. THAT IS
PRIMARILY TRANSFERRING WITHIN A
CERTAIN LEAD. THEY HAVE A
DIFFERENT INCREASE IN REVENUES.
THEY WERE PROVIDING THAT
SERVICE. THEY COULD HAVE A
BETTER CONNECTIVITY AND
EXPERIENCE. THAT DOESN'T
NECESSARILY ADDRESS THE SHAPE O
THAT PROJECT. THERE IS THE
QUESTION, WHAT IS GOING TO BE
THE FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OPERATIONS WHEN
THIS ALL COMES BACK TO THE
COUNSEL FOR UNNECESSARY BUDGETS
>> MADAM CHAIR, ONE MORE? MAYBE
MORE SQUARE BACK TO THE CULTURE
CONNECTOR? SORRY, I WAS GIVING
A THUMBS UP. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> WE ARE MOVING MORE SQUARELY
INTO THE QUESTIONS AROUND THE
CULTURE CONNECTOR. THIS IS
WHERE WE SHOULD BE, AS YOU
MENTIONED. WE HAVE A DIFFERENT
IDENTIFICATION OF A DIFFERENT
PROGRAM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FRO
THIS PROGRAM. THEY HAVE NO MONE
ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THIS IS THE
TRANSPORTATION FINANCIAL PLAN.
THIS IS FROM THE CPT SERVICE AN
FUTURE NEED. THEY HAVE THE
CULTURE CONNECTOR. IT IS LISTED
THIS IS LISTED IN 2025. THIS I
REFERENCED IN THE TRANSPORTATIO
FUND FINANCIAL PLAN. MAYBE I A
JUST MISSING SOMETHING ABOUT TH
EXECUTIVES RIGHT HERE.
>> THEY HAVE OTHER SPENDING
PROJECTS IN THE CIP. THIS IS A
PLANNING DOCUMENT I HAD. THEY
DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL
AUTHORITIES. THEY ARE
DOCUMENTING THE PROJECTIONS OF
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IN THE
FUTURE. THEY HAVE HAD THAT
PLANNING. THIS WAS IDENTIFIED
CENTRALLY, SINCE THE STREETCAR
CONNECTOR WAS FIRST IN THE
BUDGET. THEY HAVE ANOTHER
PLACEHOLDER. THIS IS SOMETHING
THEY HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF. THI
IS HOW MUCH THEY ARE ACTUALLY
RELYING ON FOR THAT SOURCE
ESSENTIALLY, THAT HASN'T
CHANGED. IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
I VIEW IT AS AN ARTIFACT. THEY
WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT
RESULTS FROM THE PRIVATE
ASSESSMENT. THEY HAVE DIRECT
SPOTS. THEY ARE ABLE TO SPEAK T
THAT DIRECTLY.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU
WOULD LIKE TO ADD FROM YOUR
TEAM?
>> SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
PURPOSE DELIVERY ASSESSMENT.
THIS IS A CURRENT OR FUTURE
POLICYMAKER.
>> I THINK THE QUESTION WAS A
SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT MORE
INFORMATION. THEY WERE LOOKING
AT THE TIMING OF THAT THOUGHT.
>> WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT THI
RIGHT HERE.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
SEEING THEM, THANK YOU. CAN WE
GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE?
>> THIS IS THE NEXT ISSUE. THE
SEATTLE TRANSIT MEASURE. WE ARE
LOOKING AT DIFFERENT NEEDS.
TAILGATING , LOOKING AT THE
SPENDING FROM 2022-2024. THIS
WAS AUTHORIZED BY A DIFFERENT
SPENDING CATEGORY. THEY WERE
GOING TO EMERGING NEEDS. THIS I
SPECIFICALLY FOR OTHER THINGS
LIKE CLOSURE RESPONSES, AND THE
WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE. WE HAVE
SOME OF THE WEST SEATTLE
MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS. WE HAVE
DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDERS ON
THIS CATEGORY THAT HAVE BEEN
PASSED. AS OF THE 2024 PROPOSED
BUDGET. THIS IS 8 MILLION OF TH
SPENDING IN THIS CATEGORY. THEY
HAVE DIFFERENT BUDGET QUESTIONS
THEY HAVE SPENDING THE
IDENTIFIED 3.5 MILLION OF THE
PLANS. THEY WERE LOOKING AT A
SPECIFIC SPENDING ACCUSATIONS.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO
SPECIFY WHAT THEY WERE TRYING T
LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY. NEXT SLID
PLEASE. THEY'RE TRYING TO
PRIORITIZE THOSE FUNDS AS WELL.
THEY HAVE OTHER TRANSPORTATION
PURPOSES. YOU CAN PROVIDE
SPENDING UNTIL THOSE ACTIONS.
THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE
COUNCIL. THIS IS ALL FOR THE
DISCUSSION. THANK YOU.
>> CHAIR TERESA MOSQUEDA.
>> THESE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU. I MENTIONED THIS
LITTLE BIT IN MY OPENING
REMARKS. WE ARE REALLY BLESSED
THAT VOTERS LOOKED AT THIS
MEASURE BACK IN THE HEIGHT OF
THE PANDEMIC. THEY WERE TRYING
TO BOOST TRANSIT SERVICES. THEY
HAVE TRANSIT RELATED PROJECTS.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS
A CATEGORY IN THERE WHEN THE
WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE WAS CLOSED.
WE DID NOT KNOW FOR HOW LONG. W
WERE TRYING TO DO WITH THAT. WE
KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST DID
WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
COVID PANDEMIC TRADE THE WEST
SEATTLE BRIDGE IS REOPENED NOW.
I THINK IT WARRANTS FOCUSING ON
REDIRECTING THOSE EMERGING
NEEDS. THEY HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS
THAT WE HAVE HERE. THEY ARE JUS
AS IMPORTANT FROM THESE TRANSIT
SERVICES. THESE ARE THE CAPITAL
PROGRAMS. THESE ARE CALLED NEW
TRANSPORTATION ACTIONS. THEY
HAVE DIFFERENT TRANSIT ACCESS
PROGRAMS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
TRANSIT SERVICES. THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT FLIES UNDER THE
RADAR. THEY HAVE THESE DETAILS
FROM THE SEATTLE TRANSIT
MEASURE. THIS IS A LARGE SUM OF
MONEY. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE
THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD. WE
HAVE OFFICIAL OVERSIGHT ROLES A
WELL. I REALLY WANT TO HEAR FRO
THEM. I DO LIKE THE OPTION OF
CENTRAL STAFF IDENTIFIED TO
REDUCE APPROPRIATIONS TO MATCH
THE PLANS AND SPENDING. THAT
WOULD BRING US THE EMERGING
NEEDS NUMBER. THIS IS MORE THAN
WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE ON THIS
TABLE. IS THAT CORRECT? WOULD
THEY REDUCE $1 MILLION?
>> THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TH
ACCOUNTING ISSUE. THIS IS IN
TERMS OF HOW THE COUNSEL
APPROPRIATES THE FUNDING. I WIL
HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH INTO
EXACTLY HOW THE BUDGET SERVICE
LEVELS HAVE DIFFERENT LINE
ITEMS. THIS IS THE NEED FOR SOM
OF THIS. IT STARTS TO GET GOING
WE FIND A WAY TO KEEP GOING. WE
HAVE ANOTHER OPTION TO DO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. FOLLOW-UP
QUESTION, SEATTLE TRANSIT
MEASURE, IS THE REBRANDED,
LARGER SUBSET OF THE SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT DISTRICT
IS THIS A CITYWIDE DISTRICT THA
ENABLES US TO FUND
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS? WE WER
HEARING THAT THIS WAS AN ISSUE
WITH $10 VEHICLE LICENSE FEE
INCREASES THAT THE COUNCIL HAD
APPROVED LAST YEAR. THIS WAS TH
ADMINISTRATIVE PROBLEM. THERE
WAS A DeLAY IN GETTING THAT
INFORMATION TO THE STATE. THEY
WERE COLLECTING THE FEE. IS IT
SIX-MONTH DeLAY? CAN YOU DISCUS
THAT? WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT
THAT? WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION
THAT CAME THROUGH WHILE WE WERE
ASKING QUESTIONS. CENTRAL STAFF
WAS ASKING QUESTIONS. THIS WAS
WHEN THE BUDGET CAME THROUGH.
>> THEY HAVE A 7.5% SALES TAX.
THIS IS WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS
IMPOSED. THEY WILL USE THE
COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY. THE
COUNCIL INCREASED THE LICENSE
FEE BY THE ADDITIONAL $10. THEY
HAD ANTICIPATED THAT IT WOULD
TAKE SIX MONTHS FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING TO STAN
UP AND START LIKING THOSE FEES.
HE ALLOWED FOUR TO SIX MONTHS
DeLAY IN THOSE COLLECTIONS. MY
UNDERSTANDING, AFTER THE
ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED, WE WER
NOT ABLE TO CONVEY THAT
ORDINANCE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
LICENSING. IT WAS IDENTIFIED
OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
THIS WAS WHEN CITY STAFF
REALIZED THAT WE WERE NOT BEING
CHARGED. THEY MAKE CONNECTIONS
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
LICENSING. THEY WERE STARTING
THIS IN DECEMBER. PURPOSE OF TH
2023 ADOPTED BUDGET. IT NEEDS
ABOUT FIVE ON THE WAY. THEY HAV
VEHICLE LICENSE REVENUES.
ESSENTIALLY, THEY HAVE FOREGONE
ALL OF THAT.
>> THANK YOU. WE WANT TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT THAT. WE WANT TO
COMMUNICATE MORE ABOUT THAT TO
THE PUBLIC GOOD THIS IS IN
TERMS OF THE FUNDING THAT IS
HERE IN FRONT OF US. I KNOW
THERE ARE A LOT OF CAPITAL NEED
THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT.
ONE THOUGHT, IS THE EMERGING
NEEDS FUNDING. WE CAN MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE SPENDING MORE FROM
THE TRANSIT INFORMATION. THIS I
ANOTHER ELEMENT. THIS IS WHAT W
WERE ABLE TO DO FROM THE TRANSI
SERVICE. WE ARE GATHERING THE
NEEDS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS AND
THEIR DISTRICTS. THEY KNOW WHAT
THEY HAVE FOR CAPITAL NEEDS.
THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL SOURC
AS LONG AS IT IS A TRANSIT. THE
HAVE DIRECT ACCESS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. GO
AHEAD.
>> I JUST WANTED TO NOTE, THAT
THE SPEND PLAN IS FOR THE
EMERGING NEEDS. THEY WERE TRYIN
TO GO THROUGH WITH IT. THEY
MIGHT HAVE SENT IT OVER
PREVIOUSLY. THEY HAVE ANOTHER
BUDGET SESSION. IT MUST HAVE
BEEN INCORRECT. THERE MUST HAVE
BEEN SOMETHING THERE. WE WILL
MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW IT OUT. THI
WAS THE EMERGING NEEDS CATEGORY
WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT WE CAN
DO IT. THIS WAS NOT IT.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU
WANTED TO ADD ON THAT?
>> I WILL WAIT TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATION BEFORE I APPLY.
>> SOUNDS GOOD.
>> I ALLUDED TO THIS IN THE
OPENING REMARKS. THEY WERE
LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT
FORMATS. THEY ARE TRYING TO
APPROPRIATELY ALLOCATE THESE,
RATHER THAN SDOT, MAKING THE
MIND CLOSED DOORS. THEY WERE
TRYING TO LOOK ON US. THIS IS
WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY.
>> THIS IS FROM TWO DAYS, JUST
IN SUCH A BUSY WEEK. THEY WERE
TRYING TO LOOK AT IT. THEY
DEFINITELY LOOKED AT IT. I'M
LOOKING AT THIS BUDGET HEARING.
IT HAS ENDED.
>> THEY COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL
DETAIL RIGHT HERE. A LOT OF THE
ITEMS I HAVE SEEN, HAVE SIMPLY
SAID THAT THEY HAVE NEW
INITIATIVES TO BE IDENTIFIED
LATER. THEY DON'T HAVE PLANS TO
SPEND IT. I DON'T VIEW THAT AS
SPENDING PLAN. THERE COULD BE
MORE INFORMATION READ HERE THAT
I NEED TO UNDERSTAND. WE ARE NO
GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THA
HERE AT THIS MOMENT.
>> THANK YOU, CALVIN.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, ANYTHING
ELSE?
>> WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A
DECISION. THANK YOU.
>> DIRECTOR SCOTT, SOMETHING
FROM YOU?
>> YES. I WANT PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND THE TRENDS TERRACE,
AND TRANSPORTATION, IS VERY
IMPORTANT. OUR HISTORY IS A
CLOSE COLLABORATION. THIS IS
PART OF THE PUBLIC'S VOICE ON
THESE OF THESE FUNDS. WE WILL
MAKE SURE THAT MULTIPLE PUBLIC
FORUMS WILL SHARE IN THE RIGHTS
>> OKAY. I WANT TO THANK THE
SHERIFF OF TRANSPORTATION FOR
GETTING AN OUTGOING CLASS. I
MENTIONED BEFORE THE START OF
OUR MEETING, WE HAVE A HYBRID
APPROACH MOVING FORWARD. WE HAV
CHAMBERS OF GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE
THE INTENT TO TRY THAT. THEY
ASKED THE HARD QUESTIONS. WE CA
MOVE QUICKLY. THIS WAS GIVEN TH
TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAVE TO
ANALYZE THE BUDGET. WE WERE
TRYING TO FINALIZE THE BUDGET.
THIS WAS FROM THE NINE WEEK
PROCESS. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE
WORK THAT ARTIE HAPPENS. I
THINK ON THIS ITEM, WE ARE GOOD
TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
>> THIS BUDGET INCLUDES 1
MILLION JUMPSTART FUNDS. THEY
WERE TRYING TO LOOK UP THE
SUPPORT FROM THE DOWNTOWN
ACTIVATION PLAN. THEY WERE
TRYING TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT AWAY
THESE MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES,
WILL HAVE THE BUDGET BASED
PROGRAMS. AGAIN, SIMILARLY, THE
FUNDING HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN
TERMS OF THIS INTENDED PURPOSE.
I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THESE
FUNDS, IN TERMS OF EXACTLY WHAT
IT WAS USED FOR. YOU CAN
REPRIORITIZE SOME OF THE FUNDIN
ACTIONS. YOU COULD PROVIDE
EVERYTHING ACCRUED BY THE
COUNCIL NUMBERS.
>> OKAY. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER
TAMMY MORALES.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
SUMMARIZING THIS. I'M GLAD TO
SEE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING THE
WRONG TRADITION OF INVESTING
DOWNTOWN. I DO HOPE THAT WE WER
ABLE TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE
MOMENT FROM WHAT WE GAINED OVER
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THIS
IS US IMPROVING OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS. THEIR COMMERCIAL
CORES ARE ACROSS THE CITY. WE
KEEP HEARING THAT DOWNTOWN IS
THE HEART OF THE CITY. IF THAT
IS TRUE, THEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS
ARE THE LUNGS AND CIRCULATORY
SYSTEMS. I DO FEAR THAT THE
WINDOW IS CLOSING. WE ARE
KEEPING THE MOMENTUM GOING. I
SEE GREAT POTENTIAL FOR
IMPROVING THE DAILY LIVES OF OU
CONSTITUENTS. THIS IS WHERE THE
LIVE. THIS IS WHERE THEY WORK
AND PLAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THAT I
MIND AS WE ARE TRYING TO INVEST
THEY WERE TRYING TO ASK THEM
ABOUT THE WORK WITH SDOT, ON
LOOKING AT THE PEDESTRIAN
ACTIONS. IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING
WORTH EXPLORING. I WOULD LOVE T
SEE A COMMERCIAL CORE. THEY HAV
EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY.
I THINK FOR ME, THEY HAVE ALL O
THESE FUNDS ALLOCATED. THEY
REALLY HAVE STRUGGLED. THIS WAS
AGAINST THE PANDEMIC. THE
CONSTITUENTS ARE TRYING TO HAVE
THEIR DAILY NEEDS MET. REALLY,
THEY HAVE NO AMENITIES FOR
PEOPLE TO SAFELY AND COMFORTABL
WALK, BIKE, OR ROLL TO GET
ACCESS TO THEIR POTENTIAL GOODS
AND SERVICES. THAT IS SOMETHIN
THAT A LOT OF US ARE THINKING
ABOUT. WE ARE CONTEMPLATING HOW
WE ARE GETTING IT TO BE SAFER
FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND.
>> EXCELLENT. I LOVE THIS ITEM.
IT IS WITH MANY OF THE DIFFEREN
DEPARTMENTS. THEY HAVE THE ART
AND CULTURE. THEY HAVE THE
SAFETY IMPROVED FROM THE OUTCOM
SAFETIES. I'M REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT THIS. THEY HAVE ECONOMIC
HUBS. THIS IS JUST OVER $9
MILLION FOR THE DOWNTOWN
ACTIVATION PAN. WE CAN DO BOTH
OF THESE INVESTMENTS AND
ECONOMIC HUBS. THIS IS ABOUT
THE ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE
STANDING LOCATIONS AS WELL. THI
IS WHAT I WILL BE LOOKING AT.
THIS IS WHAT WE LEARN FROM
YESTERDAY. WE WERE TRYING TO
WEAVE THE FUNDS. THIS IS ALSO
WORKING SDOT, AND TO THE
CONCEPT. THIS IS FROM THE
CONCEPT. THEY WERE LOOKING AT
THE COMMENTS AROUND CHARITY AND
EQUITY WITH THE COMMENTS AS
WELL. THIS IS A DIRECT RESPONSE
THIS IS SOMETHING TO ADD.
>> I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY
STRONG SUPPORT FOR EVERYTHING
THAT HAS HAPPENED. I AGREE WITH
IT. THIS IS ECONOMICALLY AND
CULTURALLY. THEY ARE SPENDING
MORE TIME IN THE LOCAL
INVESTMENTS. THIS WAS THE MAIN
PART OF COLUMBIA CITY. THIS IS
THE MOST WALKABLE AND RETAIL
FAMILY PART. THEY HAVE SOME
REALLY NICE TRANSPORTATION
ADJUSTMENTS. ONE THING THAT YOU
WILL FIND IN THE NEW CL
TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WAS
DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION
SECTION. PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE
PLANS. THIS WAS RIGHT WITHIN TH
TRANSIT. THEY HAVE THIS TYPE O
ACTIVATION FROM THE PUBLIC RIGH
OF WAYS. THIS WAS PART OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE LET
TERRIFIC PASSIONATE STAFF
MEMBERS.
>> THINK I WAS TRYING TO TALK
ABOUT IT. THEY HAVE ANOTHER
COMPONENT FOR JUMPSTART. THEY
HAVE CARBON FOR YOUR CARBON
NEUTRAL ZONE AROUND OUR CITY. W
APPRECIATE THE ENVIRONMENT, AND
FOR THE WORK THERE TOO. CONTINU
THE CROSS-SECTION OF
DEPARTMENTAL INTERESTS. THIS IS
ESPECIALLY FOR NEIGHBORHOODS. W
HAVE THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENTS. WE HAVE A TARGETED
APPROACH TO EVAPORATED. THEY'RE
VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK.
THEY HAVE 11 POSTS ECONOMIC
VIOLATIONS. THIS IS ESPECIALLY
IN TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY WERE MAKIN
THIS PETITION, AS WE ACCESS THE
AMENITIES. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
TALKING TO YOU MORE ABOUT HOW
THAT LOOKS. GEOGRAPHICALLY, AS
WELL AS A FOCUS DOWNTOWN. I JUS
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW
THAT. WE ALL KNOW THE IMPORTANC
OF THE DOWNTOWN ACQUISITIONS. A
YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE ARE USING
THEIR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD
VILLAGES.
>> YES. THAT IS A THROWBACK. I
LOVE IT. WE WILL TALK TO YOU
MORE ABOUT THAT ANALYSIS.
>> EXCITING.
>> THESE GO AHEAD.
>> IS ALWAYS MOVING TO THE NEXT
ITEM.
>> I HAVE A FEW BUDGET ISSUES.
THINK WE HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK
ABOUT IT AS PART OF YOUR
DELIBERATIONS. THE FIRST IS THA
THE NEW SEATTLE LEVY WILL BE IN
2024. THIS IS FROM THE
TRANSPORTATION REVENUE. THIS IS
GOING TO DETERMINE SPENDING FOR
MANY YEARS. SDOT, IS CLEANING U
THE WORK ON TRANSPORTATION
PLANS. THEY PROVIDE A FRAMEWOR
FOR PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEMS. THEY WERE LOOKING AT
THE COUNSEL FROM EARLY NEXT
YEAR. WITH THAT TRANSPORTATION
PLAN, SDOT, WILL ALSO BE
DEVELOPING A TRANSPORTATION
FUNDING PLAN. THIS IS
ESSENTIALLY ALL THE ACTIONS.
THIS IS IN ORDER FOR US TO GET
ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT
LEGISLATION. THERE WERE TRYING
TO APPROVE A BALLOT MEASURE.
THIS WOULD BE BEFORE THE
COUNTIES, AND AUGUST 6th
DEADLINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT
NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE A
CRITICAL TIME FOR THE COUNSEL.
THEY WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE
TRANSPORTATION FUNDING MEASURES
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
RAISING THIS ISSUE. YES, THEY
WERE LOOKING AT SDOT'S BUDGET.
GLAD TO SEE THE WORK POSSESSING
THEMSELVES ON THE CL
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THEY ARE
LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT
PLANS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
TRANSPORTATION PLANS. THEY WILL
HAVE TWO ASSET MANAGEMENT PLANS
COMING OUT. THIS IS THE NEXT
COUPLE OF MONTHS. THEY HAVE
ASSET MANAGEMENT PLANS. THEY
HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE
CITY AUDITOR FROM 2020. THEY
HAVE OTHER STRUCTURES FROM THE
MANAGEMENT PLANS. THIS IS WHAT
WAS WORKING, AS WE WERE
ENVISIONING THE CITY IN THE
FUTURE. THEY'RE GETTING EXCITED
ABOUT NEW PROJECTS AS WELL. I
REALLY APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES
PATIENCE, AS WE DEBATE
CONTROVERSIAL FUNDING SOURCE
ISSUES. WE JUST HAD A VOTE
EARLIER THIS WEEK. IT WAS
RELATED TO THAT. WE WERE TRYING
TO BOOK MORE OPTIONS, AND MAKE
MORE OPTIONS AVAILABLE. AS THIS
TIMELINE SHOWS, AND AS WE LEARN
FROM ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT
WENT TO THE HOUSING LEVY, AND
THE PREPARATION, AND HOW LONG I
TAKES TO START, IT IS ONE YEAR
BEFORE SOME THINGS ARE PUT INTO
THE BALLOT. ARE STARTING TO RUN
OUT OF TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A
FUNDING PLAN. WE HAVE OTHER
OPTIONS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THAT
LATER. THANK YOU.
>> [ INAUDIBLE ].
>> I JUST WANT TO THANK
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN, FO
MANAGING THOSE TWO ASSET
MANAGEMENT PLANS. I'M REALLY
EXCITED THAT THEY WILL HAVE MOR
ANALYTICS FOR SMART DECISIONS
ABOUT THE FUTURE FUNDING PLAN
THAT WE HAVE HAD MOVING FORWARD
GRADE WHO HAVE THIS INTEGRATED,
MULTIMODAL CAPITATION PLAN. WE
WILL HAVE CYCLE ASSESSMENTS FRO
ALL THE BRIDGES. WE HAVE THE
ASSESSMENT OF WHAT KIND OF
PERFORMANCE FROM THE BRIDGE
ASSETS WE CAN EXPECT IN THE
VARIOUS LEVELS OF INVESTMENT.
YOU HAVE THE SAME INVESTMENT
SCENARIOS FOR NON-ASSET BRIDGES
I THINK POLICYMAKERS WILL HAVE
MUCH RICHER SET OF INFORMATION.
THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE HAD
BEFORE. THE FOLKS AT SDOT HAVE
BEEN WORKING FOR IT.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON
THIS?
>> NO?
>> THIS IS THE OBSERVATIONAL
SUBSIDY FOR THE STREETCAR LINES
THIS IS THE USE OF THE CL
TRANSFER FUNDING TO SUPPORT
THAT. NEXT YEAR, THEY NEED TO
OPERATE THE STREETCAR. THEY WIL
RISE THIS YEAR. THIS IS A 10.2
MILLION ACTION NEXT YEAR. THIS
IS THE SOUTH TRANSIT OPERATIONS
THEY HAVE $5 MILLION OF
OPERATIONAL SUPPORT FOR 10
YEARS. 2025, THE REQUIRED
SUBSIDIES, CHANGED TO $220. WE
HAVE THE COUNTY OPERATION
CONTRIBUTIONS. THEY WERE SPELLE
OUT. THEY WERE SET TO INSPIRE
COMPLETELY AT THE END OF 2027.
WE HAVE THE ONGOING CLASS OF
OPERATIONS. WE HAVE THE CULTURE
CONNECTOR PROPOSALS. THESE
COSTS, ARE TRENDING UP READ WE
WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE
CULTURE CONNECTOR AFFECTS THE
LONG-TERM COST. HISTORICALLY,
SDOT, HAS USED THE TAXES TO
SUPPORT THESE OPERATIONS. FROM
THIS YEAR AND 2024, SDOT, USE
THE FUNDING FOR THE CL TRANSIT
MEASURE. THEY'RE TRYING TO
SPEND FOR TRANSIT SERVICES. THE
DO OPERATE THE STREETCAR SYSTEM
THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE BECAUS
THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED
LIMITATIONS TO INCREASE BUS
SERVICES. THIS IS BECAUSE OF HO
QUICKLY THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF ADDITIONAL SPENDING. THE
SALES TAX COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN
HIGHER. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM
WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND ON BUS
SERVICE. I HAVE RAISED IS NOT S
MUCH FOR SPECIFIC OPTIONS, BUT
JUST TO RAISE AGAINST
INSPIRATIONS. THIS IS 5 MILLION
IN 2023. 20 MILLION IN 2024. TH
DECISION TO USE THE CL TRANSIT
MEASURE, WAS REALLY CONVEYED TO
THE COUNCIL. THIS WAS A
DIFFERENT BUDGET. I UNDERSTAND
THAT SDOT, IS IN THE PROCESS O
DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE
ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL.
>> ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ON
THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER SARA
NELSON?
>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT WELL VERSED IN OPERATIO
SPEEDS. WHAT PERCENTAGE IS IT?
>> WE WERE LOOKING AT IT ON THE
FLY. TRANSIT SERVICES IN
GENERAL, THEY USUALLY REQUIRE
ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THIS IS SO
THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT
IT. MOST OF THESE PRODUCTS, AN
HISTORY OF HOW THEY CAME
TOGETHER, THEY INCLUDE OTHER
AGENCIES THAT ARE COMMITTED TO
PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTATION. THEY
WERE JUST COMING TO THE END OF
THOSE TERMS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO
FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. WE ARE
WAITING FOR THE ANNUAL STREETCA
UPDATE. IT DOES PROVIDE A LOT
MORE DATA ON THE RIDERSHIP.
OPERATION COSTS AS WELL. THERE
COULD BE A MORE UP-TO-DATE
DOCUMENT AVAILABLE.
>> THIS IS MORE OF A PROCESS
QUESTION. IF THE KING COUNTY
SUBSIDY GOES AWAY, DOES THAT
MEAN THAT WE CANNOT USE IT? IS
THIS PART OF THE SEATTLE TRANSI
MEASURE DOLLARS FOR SUBSIDY?
>> TO HAVE SEPARATE ISSUES. THE
HAVE A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE
COUNTY TO PROVIDE SERVICE.
BECAUSE OF HOW THAT BALLOT
MEASURE WAS WRITTEN, IT CLEARLY
ALLOWS US TO SPEND IT ON THE
TRANSIT SERVICES THAT ARE
PROVIDED BY KING COUNTY.
HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE NOT USED
THE TRANSIT MEASURE. THIS WILL
EXPIRE IN A FEW YEARS. IN TERMS
OF THE LONG-TERM FUTURE OF HOW
WE MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS TO KEEP
THE OPERATIONS RUNNING, WE DON'
HAVE A FINANCIAL PLAN CURRENTLY
FOR HOW WE HISTORICALLY HAVE
USED PARTIAL TAXES. WE HAVE A
LOT OF DEMANDS. IT IS ALSO WHAT
WE USED TO SUPPORT THE
INSTRUMENTS, AND HOW WE WANT TO
SPEND MONEY ON LARGER CAPITAL
PROJECTS. THIS IS ALL GOING TO
BE PART OF A CONVERSATION.
FRANKLY, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT
THE LEVY AS WELL. ALL OF THESE
SOURCES, NEED TO BE UNDERSTOOD
TOGETHER, WITH HOW THEY FIT
TOGETHER. THIS IS JUST ONE
OUTSTANDING NEED. THAT COULD
CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY, WHEN
CULTURE CONNECTOR PROPOSALS COM
FORWARD.
>> ONE LESS THING. CAN YOU LOOK
AT BUS SERVICES DURING THE
COVID-19 RECOVERY MEANS? IS THA
A TEMPORARY PROBLEM FOR
LIMITATIONS?
>> IT HAS BEEN TEMPORARY FOR
SEVERAL YEARS. KING COUNTY, HAS
ISSUES WITH ENOUGH BUS DRIVERS.
THEY WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT
AVAILABLE TO ADD MORE SERVICES.
THEY HAVE THE RELATED ISSUE. IS
TRANSIT BEING MET? ARE THEY
GETTING BACK TO THE SAME LEVELS
AS THEY WERE BEFORE? THIS IS FO
ANY OTHER NUMBER. THEY ARE
TRYING TO TAKE IT ON. THAT HAS
LED TO US BUILDING UP SOME
ESSENTIALLY SURPLUS ACTIONS THA
COULD BE USED FOR DIFFERENT
SPEEDS.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LIS
HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU. GOING BACK TO MY
EARLIER QUESTION, I UNDERSTAND
THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER DECISION
BEING MADE RIGHT HERE. THEY'RE
TRYING TO FUND EXISTING
STREETCAR OPERATIONS WITH OTHER
FUNDS. I HAVE A LOT OF
PROCESSES, AND THEY KNOW HOW
THAT DECISION WAS MADE. THEY
COMMUNICATED ABOUT THE COUNCIL,
AND THE ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS
THE RESPONSE THAT WE RECEIVED.
THIS WAS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT
OF THE 2023-2024 PROPOSED,
ANNUAL INVESTMENT. IT SOUNDS
LIKE THE DECISION WAS MADE. THI
WAS WHILE WE WERE DEVELOPING IT
THEY WERE LOOKING AT THIS
PROPOSED, BIANNUAL ADJUSTMENT.
THE 2024 HAD THE BUDGET
ANNOUNCEMENT, THEY HAD THE FIRS
COMMUNICATION. THIS WAS ON THE
DECISION. THEY WERE TRYING TO
LOOK AT THESE FUNDS. THIS IS FO
2023. THIS WAS MOVING FORWARD.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS 5 MILLION
FROM THE CONNECTED MEASURE. THI
WAS 2023. I WAS GOING TO BE
REACHING OUT FOR THE TRANSIT
ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS HOW
THEY HAVE COME BEFORE. THIS IS
FROM 2024. AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND
THAT WE HAVE IT. THIS WAS
MAKING ANOTHER OPERATION FOR IT
I AM HIGHLIGHTING THIS ISSUE AS
IT RELATES TO THIS ADDITIONAL
THREE-CAR CONNECTOR. THEY WERE
TRYING TO CONTINUE TO DEPLETE
THE FINITE RESOURCES. THIS IS
ALL ABOUT 2024. 70% OF THE OTHE
OPERATIONAL BUDGETS HAVE BEEN
FUNDED. THEY REPRESENT 24% OF
THE TRANSIT MEASURE FUNDS. THEY
HAVE DEDICATED STREETCAR
OPERATIONS. THEY UNDERSTAND THA
WE CAN'T CHANGE THE BUDGET. THE
ARE TRYING TO SPEND AND MAINTAI
THE CURRENT EMPHASIS. I WAS
RAISING THE QUESTION OF WHETHER
OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE. THEY AR
TRYING TO IDENTIFY DIFFERENT
INVESTMENTS. THEY KNOW THE
ISSUE. IF YOU BUILD IT, IT WILL
GOBBLE UP FUNDING RESOURCES.
THIS IS FOR OTHER TRANSIT
MEASURES. THEY HAVE OTHER
INVESTMENTS. THEY WERE
MAINTAINING PEDESTRIAN SAFETIES
THEY WERE BUILDING SIDEWALKS.
THEY MAINTAINED BRIDGES. AGAIN,
I THINK WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT A
WAY TO GET A HANDLE ON THESE
ISSUES. THIS IS BEFORE WE INVES
IN OTHER INFRASTRUCTURES THAT W
DON'T HAVE. I THINK I AM
CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS WILL
AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO MOVE INTO
THE 2024 MOVE. THEY WERE TRYING
TO LOOK AT THE SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL. THIS IS A GOOD REVENU
SOURCE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
>> THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE
TRANSPORTATION. THAT WOULD BE
BETTER. THAT WOULD BE DONE LATE
IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION. THIS
WAS ALL ABOUT THE STREETCAR.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT THIS
DISTRICT. THIS IS WHAT WE MIGHT
HAVE.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
>> I WANT TO ASK IF YOU ALLUDED
TO IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. THI
IS WHAT WE ARE POTENTIALLY
HAVING. WE HAD LOTS OF
TRANSPORTATION BENEFITS OF THE
LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THIS IS A
BIG PARTNER WITH METRO. THEY
HAVE EXTRA RESOURCES. THEY WER
LOOKING AT THAT RESOURCE. THEY
NEED TO PURSUE ALL OF THIS. THE
WERE LOOKING AT THE
TRANSPORTATION PURPOSE. THIS IS
ALL ABOUT THE ESTEEMED WELFARE
FROM THESE BUSES. I KNOW THAT
KING COUNTY HAS BEEN MEETING IT
THEY WERE FURIOUS. THEY NOTICE
THE WAY THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE T
PARTNER WITH A SERVICE. THIS IS
THE CARE WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN
DOING. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. THIS
IS ALL MAKING SENSE. THIS IS
DIFFERENT TRANSIT HUBS. THEY
HAVE A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. I HAVE
ANOTHER TRANSIT OPERATOR. THEY
WERE LOOKING AT THE TEAM. I HAV
A DIFFERENT CRISIS. THEY'RE
TRYING TO COME OFF OF IT. THEY
HAVE A DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT
SERVER. THEY WERE TRYING TO
ALLOW THE BUSES TO KEEP MOVING.
THEY CONNECT THAT CARE. THEY
HAVE ANOTHER LANGUAGE. THIS IS
POSSIBLE, GIVEN THE
TRANSPORTATION OF IMPROVEMENT.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE
DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT WERE
PERFECT FROM THE TRANSACTIONS.
THEY WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE
INTENT. THIS IS FROM THE LEVERS
WITH HOW WE HAVE STRUCTURED THE
TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT DISTRICT
WE TRIED TO DO PROGRAMS LIKE
THAT. THE CENTRAL STAFF HAD THA
POSSIBILITY. THE ONLY OTHER
THING I WOULD RAISE, IS THAT
THERE IS A BONDING AUTHORITY IN
THE TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE PRIME SPONSOR
DEPOSITION. THEY WERE LOOKING A
THE CITY CORE. THEY HAD METRO
THROUGH POINT AND TRENT ROTATIO
SERVICES. THIS WOULD INVOLVE
WITH CAPITAL COSTS. I WONDER IF
THIS WAS SUPPORTED BY THE
RENOVATION DISTRICT. IT IS PART
OF A BROAD PORTFOLIO. WE HAVE
DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. WITH
THAT, I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW I.D. THEY
ARE PUTTING FINANCIAL INTERESTS
WITH CREATIVE WAYS TO EXPAND TH
UTILITY OF THE TRANSPORTATION
BENEFIT INDUSTRY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I WOULD BE
HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THOSE
IDEAS. A COUPLE OF IMMEDIATE
THOUGHTS. THEY DID QUESTION
VOTERS AT HALF OF THE SPENDING.
THEY WOULD GO TO THE
TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. THAT
MIGHT BE ONE INTERPRETATION THA
IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER. WE WERE
WORKING WITH THE TRANSIT
ADVISORY BOARD. THEY HAVE
DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE APPROVED
TO LOOK BACK. WE KNOW HOW WE AR
IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF TRANSI
SERVICES. I THINK THEY HAVE A
USEFUL DISCUSSION. THEY COULD B
LOOKING AT THE SPENDING THAT
THEY MIGHT ALLOW. I THINK IT
WOULD BE USEFUL TO HAVE ANOTHER
PUBLIC CONVERSATION. THIS IS
THE LAST PIECE THAT I WANT TO
RAISE. THE CL TRANSPORTATION
BENEFITS DISTRICT DOES HAVE
BONDING AUTHORITY ITSELF. THE
ABILITY TO ISSUE BONDS IS NOT A
FACTOR FOR US. THAT WOULD EXPIR
IN THREE YEARS. WE HAVE KNOWN
REVENUE, IN WHICH TO SATISFY
DEBTS. IT IS THE SAME ISSUE THA
WE HAVE WITH EXISTING BONDS.
LEGALLY, IT IS OUR ABILITY TO
SERVICE DEBT.
>> GREAT. I WANT TO SAY, THANK
YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS?
>> THAT FOLLOW-UP IS GREAT. I
WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME WAY
TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSIONS. I
HAVE NO ISSUE WITH ANYTHING THA
PLANS TO REVISE THE DISTRICT
RESPONSE FOR THAT SUPPORT. I
THINK AS WE LOOK AT MORE
CAPACITY IN A GIVEN YEAR, OTHER
THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO ENHANC
PEOPLE'S SENSE OF SAFETY ON
PUBLIC TRANSIT? CAN YOU HELP US
EXPAND INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE
TRANSIT? I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE
A LOOK AT THAT TOO. WE HAVE TO
MAKE SURE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT IT, AND LIMITING
THE CORE PURPOSE OF THIS. THIS
IS WHERE WE HELP EXPAND TRANSIT
SERVICES.
>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. TAK
YOU FOR YOUR CREATIVE THINKING
ABOUT THE REVENUE. I APPRECIATE
THAT. WE LOOKING AT THE BEST
CONVERSATION OF ALL. ANY
ADDITIONAL ITEMS UP THERE?
>> RIGID SPENDING. THIS IS THE
COUNSEL OF TRANSPORTATION
CHAIRS. IN 2020, CITY AUDITOR
WAS IDENTIFYING THE ONGOING
STATEMENTS. THIS IS BASED ON
OTHER ESTIMATES. THIS SHOULD BE
1% OF THE TOTAL REPLACEMENT
COSTS. THIS WAS OVER 60 YEARS
OLD. THIS SHOWS THE BRIDGE
-RELATED SPENDING. THE TOP HAL
I LOOKING AT THE OTHER BRIDGE
REPORTS. I WOULD NOTE THAT 10
MILLION OF THIS IS SHIFTED
APPROPRIATIONS FROM 2023. THESE
STRUCTURES NEED MAJOR
MAINTENANCE. THERE IS A $20
MILLION SHIPPED IN THE PROGRAMS
THAT IS REALLY 23 ADOPTED. I'M
LOOKING AT THIS FOR PREVIOUS
DISCUSSIONS.
>> AREAS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR TERESA
MOSQUEDA. THANK YOU, CALVIN,
FOR HIGHLIGHTING THIS ISSUE.
THERE ARE SOME WAYS TO ANSWER
THE QUESTION. HOW DO WE INVEST
IN THESE BRIDGES? WHAT I
TYPICALLY DO, IS THAT I AM
LOOKING FOR MAINTENANCE ITEMS.
THE OPERATING CAPITAL RELATED
ITEMS. I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THE
CITY AUDITOR PROVIDED. THEY SAI
WE SHOULD BE RESPONDING TO 132
MILLION A YEAR, INCLUDING
PAYMENTS. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE
SEISMIC. AT THE START, WE SEE
THE 36 MILLION, THANK YOU FOR
IDENTIFYING THAT SOME OF THAT I
CARRYING OVER FROM 2023. THAT I
WHY THIS NUMBER LOOKS BIGGER.
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM G. THI
WAS NOT IN THE CITY AUDITOR'S
REPORT INCLUDING 4.69 MILLION.
WOULD BE ANALYZING THIS
PERTINENTLY, SUBTRACTING THAT
OUT. THAT IS SHORT OF THE $34
MILLION AMOUNT THAT THE CITY
AUDITOR HAD EXPECTED US TO
INVEST IN OUR BRIDGES FOR REPAI
AND MAINTENANCE. I APPRECIATE
YOU MAKING THIS TABLE AVAILABLE
ONCE AGAIN, WE WANT THE
EXECUTIVE TO INVEST MORE. WE
NEED TO ADDRESS THIS. WE CAN
TELL THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHAT WE
ARE TELLING THE CITY AUDITOR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ALE
PEDERSEN. WE APPRECIATE YOUR
CONTINUED FOCUS ON THIS. WE ARE
ADDING TO THE FOCUS. WE ARE
PRIORITIZING ALL THE.
>> YES. I JUST WANT TO SHARE
THIS FROM MY FIRST 13 MONTHS
STRENGTHENING THE APPROACH TO
THE BRIDGES ACROSS ALL, IT HAS
BEEN A TOP PRIORITY. THIS IS
FROM THE DEPARTMENT. I CAN
REPORT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR,
WE ARE GOING TO COMPLETE ALL OF
THE AUDIT RESERVATIONS. THIS IS
FROM ONE YEAR AGO. I'M VERY
HAPPY WITH THAT. ONE OF THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS, IS PART OF
FOCUSING OUR OWN IN-HOUSE CREWS
THAT ARE DOING MAINTENANCE ON
THE SDOT OWNED AND CONTROLLED
STRUCTURES. I HAVE ISSUED
INTERNAL DIRECTIONS FROM THE
START OF 2023. YOU HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED WITH FULL SALARIES FOR
THOSE FOLKS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO
SEEK OUTSIDE, REIMBURSABLE WORK
>> COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD,
SEE YOU POPPING IN NOW.
CONCERNED WITH THE BRIDGE, THAN
YOU. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
>> [ INAUDIBLE ].
>> COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN?
>> NO THANK YOU.
>> THE LAST CONTRACTUAL ISSUE I
WANT TO RAISE, IS JUST LOOKING
AT MY CASE. THEY HAD ANOTHER
CORRIDOR, RELATED TO THE COMMON
DELIVERY STRIKE. AS A MEASURE O
A RESULT OF THAT STRIKE, THEY
HAVE INCREASED THE COST BY 25
MILLION. THEY ROSE THE BUDGET.
THEY PROPOSE TO LOOK AT THE
FUNDING INFORMATION'S. THEY HAV
ANOTHER SERVICE FOR THAT. 2.2
MILLION AFTER. THEY HAVE LARGER
CHANGES IN THE CAPITAL PROGRAM.
>> I'M GOING TO JUMP IN HERO
QUICK. THE FRAMING ON THIS IS
REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU CAN TALK
TO ANY OF THE MEMBERS WHO ARE O
THE STRIKE LINE. THIS WAS THE
NUMBER ONE CONCERN. THERE WAS N
LEVERAGE OVER THE COMPANY FROM
WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING CONCRETE
TO PUBLIC PROJECTS. THE NUMBER
ONE ISSUE THEY WERE RAISING WHE
YOU GO ON STRIKE, WAS THE LABOR
THAT EQUALED ADDITIONAL COSTS.
THAT HELPED TO IMPROVE THE
CHANCES THAT THEY WILL COME TO
THE TABLE. THEY ARE BARGAINING
WITH THE STATE. THEIR CONCERN
WAS THAT THEY WEREN'T COMING TO
THE TABLE. THEY JUST WERE
PLANNING TO PASS THE COSTS ON T
THE EMPLOYERS. THEY HAD PUBLIC
ENTITIES LATER. THIS WAS THE
CITY, THE COUNTY, AND THE STATE
IT WAS A DIFFERENT SCOPE OF THA
STRATEGY. I HAVE A BIG CONCERN
WITH THESE CORPORATIONS WHO ARE
THEN PASSING ON THE COSTS. THEY
SHOULD BE ABSORBING IT. THEY AR
NOT COMING TO THE TABLE IN A
TIMELY MANNER. THIS IS THE
STRATEGY THAT WAS KNOWN. IT IS
NOW PLAYING OUT. I DON'T HAVE
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT I AM
OFFERING UP AT THIS POINT. I
WANT TO EXPLICITLY CONDEMN THE
STRATEGIES THAT THESE COMPANIES
ARE USING. THEY ARE TRYING TO
BARGAIN GOOD THINGS. THEY ARE
NOT BARGAINING TIMELY. THEY HAV
UNKNOWN QUANTITIES AND COSTS.
THIS IS FROM THE PUBLIC
TAXPAYER. THEY SHOULD HAVE COME
AND SAT AT THE TABLE. I WANT TO
THANK THE MEMBER OF TEAMSTER,
AND THE WORKERS TO ENSURE THAT
ADDITIONAL BENEFITS ARE REACHED
THEY VOLUNTARILY CAME BACK. THE
KNEW THE IMPACT WAS GOING TO BE
GRATEFUL. THIS WAS PART OF THE
ECONOMY. THEY SHOULD NOT BE
PENALIZED. I'M NOT LOOKING AT
THE MENUS BY ANY MEANS. I THINK
COLLECTIVELY, AS A CITY, WE
SHOULD RECOGNIZE THIS WAS A
DIFFERENT STRATEGY FROM THE
COMPANY. WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT
THE PUBLIC TAXPAYER HAD OBSERVE
THE COSTS FOR THE COMPANY.
THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS WITH ANALYST FEES
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS ALON
WITH SDOT. WE CAN BETTER HOLD
THE OTHER POSITIONS ACCOUNTABLE
THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK OF
TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THEY'RE
TRYING TO LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE WORKERS
AS WELL. THEY WERE TRYING TO
LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF ADDED
COMPENSATION. THEY'RE TRYING TO
LOOK AT IT. THIS IS WHAT THEY
WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT WITH.
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
FRAMING THAT UP. THAT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT. THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING. MY THOUGHTS AND MY
QUESTIONS, OR REALLY TO ASK HOW
WE CAN GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO PAY
FOR THIS. THEY HAVE THE OTHER
CONTRACTS THAT WE HAD WITH THE
CONTRACTORS, NOT ENABLING US TO
PASS THE COSTS. WAS THE NO FORM
OF INSURANCE? THIS WAS ANOTHER
INSURANCE THAT WAS COVERING
THROUGH WITH THIS. WE HAVE THE
CITY TAXPAYERS. THEY ARE PAYING
100% OF THE OVERAGE. THEY ARE
SHARING THIS. THEY ARE LOOKING
AT OTHER BONDS. THEY HAVE THE
BEST WAY TO DO THIS. THEY HAVE
DONE THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
NOW, THE RATES ARE HIGH.
THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THESE
BONDS. IS ARGUMENT ARE STRONGER
WITH RATES BEING HIGH. $2.2
MILLION. THIS IS FROM EACH OF
THE 20 YEARS. $44 MILLION. OF
COURSE, THE FIRST YEAR WAS A
PARTIAL YEAR. I THINK IT WAS
ABOUT $43 MILLION IN INTEREST.
YOU HAVE TO PAY BACK THE
PRINCIPALS. $68 MILLION. THIS
WAS OVER THOSE 20 YEARS. IS
THERE A MORE ECONOMICAL WAY? IS
THERE SOMETHING IN THE PROJECT
DESIGN I CAN CHANGE? CAN THIS B
PHASED IN OVER TIME? VALUE
ENGINEERING IS ON THE PROJECT.
THIS IS INSTEAD OF PAYING 100%
OF THE OVERAGE THEMSELVES. WE
WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT OTHER
WAYS TO HANDLE IT. CALVIN,
SDOT, OR ONE OF THE EXECUTIVES,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND?
>> IS A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED
ISSUE. THEY HAVE BEEN
ESTABLISHED. THERE WERE TRYING
TO LOOK THE CLAIMS PROCESSES.
THEY KNOW WHAT THOSE PROCESSES
MEAN. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS
EXPENSES. THIS IS SOMETHING TO
NOTE. THEY HAVE INCLUDED THE
PAYMENT OF THE PRINCIPAL AS PAR
OF THAT STATEMENT. IT THEY HAV
SCHEDULED DeLAY. THEY'RE TRYING
TO QUANTIFY THIS AHEAD OF TIME.
THEY KNOW THAT YOU HAD TO
RESHUFFLE IT. THIS WAS THE
ENTIRE PROJECT SCHEDULE. WE ARE
IDENTIFYING WHAT THAT IS. I
THINK IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
WHERE YOU ARE EASY TO SEE GET
OFF OF THE BACK. YOU NEED TO GE
BACK ON THE SCHEDULE. I BELIEVE
THAT IS WHAT THIS 25 MILLION IS
TRYING TO REPRESENT. I'M VERY
HAPPY WITH THESE ZONES. WE ARE
TRYING TO HELP UNDERSTAND THAT
BETTER.
>> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
>> IS ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THE
JURISDICTION. IT MIGHT BE
FEELING AS WELL. I'M TRYING TO
CHECK IN WITH KING COUNTY AT
LEAST. THEY HAVE FIVE EXECUTIV
CONCEPTS TO THE TEAM. THEY'RE
TRYING TO INVEST IN PUBLIC
SPECTERS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
PRODUCTIONS. IN NO WAY, ARE THE
CRITICAL. DELIVERY IS FROM
KEEPING THESE PROJECTS HIGH.
THIS WAS DURING THAT TIME
PERIOD. THANK YOU TO THE
TRANSPORTATION CHAIRS. THEY WER
LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL IDEAS
AROUND.
>> THAT IS A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE.
THEY HAVE PUBLIC PROJECTS THAT
THEY HAVE GOING ON. THEY HAVE
ADDITIONAL LARGE DEVELOPMENT
ORGANIZATIONS. THIS IS FROM TH
ASPECT.
>> LASTLY, THIS IS THE LAST ITE
THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. THE
ARE PROVIDING THE OTHER GREATS.
THIS IS THE COUNSEL THAT HAS
BEEN ESTABLISHED. THIS IS FROM
SDOT, WITH THE PROPOSED
LEGISLATION. THEY WOULD INCREAS
THE MINIMUM RATES. $.50 TO ONE
DOLLAR. THAT'S FROM FIVE DOLLAR
TO EIGHT DOLLARS. THEY ARE
EXPECTED TO RAISE 2.5 MILLION.
>> THIS IS THE LAST ONE. THANK
YOU.
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT THE
LAWSUIT.
>> I APPRECIATE ALL THE
PRESENTATION TODAY. THEY WERE
TRYING TO LOOK AT THE SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION FOR HELPING ME.
WE HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS TO
COME. WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION
ON THE CONFERENCE ACTIONS. WE
ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THI
IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
>> THANK YOU ALL.
>> WE ARE GOING AHEAD AND MOVIN
ON TO THESE OTHER ITEMS. NUMBER
TWO ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS UP T
1:00 P.M. WE WILL TAKE THE NEXT
HOUR AND 10 MINUTES. YESTERDAY,
AND THE DAY BEFORE, I HAD AN
EXTRA BREAK. I GAVE UP ON THE
LAST DAY. 1:00 P.M., WE WILL
TAKE ANOTHER ONE. WE ARE LOOKIN
AT THESE THREE ITEM NUMBER TWO
AGENDA RECORDS.
>> COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
COMMUNICATION CENTERS, AS WELL
AS COMMUNITY ASSISTANT RESPONSE
AND ENGAGEMENTS.
>> IS A PART OF THE
PRESENTATION. THEY WILL BE ABLE
TO HELP IT. THANK YOU TO NORMAN
GRAY DOT, AND THE PARK CITY
DIRECTORS AS WELL. THIS IS PAR
OF THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. THEY WERE LOOKING A
IT. THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE IT
WITH US. THEY WERE TRYING TO
THANK YOU FOR ALL BEING HERE. W
WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO WAL
US THROUGH ALL OF IT IN A
MOMENT. I WANTED TO OFFER
COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD, TO
MAKE COMMENTS ON IT. THEY WILL
HAVE THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT READY. THEY WERE
TRYING TO LOOK AT IT.
>> THIS IS THE CONVERSATION THA
WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE. THEY HAVE
ANOTHER BUDGET PACKAGE. 1199 35
THEY HAVE THE SEATTLE
COMMUNICATION CENTER. THEY WER
TRYING TO OPERATE IT. THEY WERE
TRYING TO TRANSFER ALL OF THESE
ACTIONS OUTSIDE READ WE HAVE
AMENDED THAT. THIS IS BEYOND
JUST A CALL CENTER. THIS IS INT
A COMMUNITY SAFETY IN
COMMUNICATION, AND ALL OF THE
CENTERS. THIS IS IN THE SUMMER
OF 2020 BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. AS
OF THE DELIBERATIONS FOR EACH
2021 AND 2022, THE COUNCIL PUSH
FORWARD. THIS HAS BEEN LONG
ENVISIONED. WE HAVE SERVICE
INCLUSIONS. WE HAVE COMMUNITY
SAFETY CHALLENGES. THEY WERE
TRYING TO LOOK AT IT. I AM SO
PLEASED, DESPITE THE NAME
CHANGE. THIS IS THE THIRD SAFET
ACTION. THIS IS A DIFFERENT
CONVERSATION. THIS IS NOT ONLY
OTHER ACTIONS. THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE HAVE
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROCESSES.
THEY HAVE NONVIOLENT, BEHAVIORA
HEALTH CRISIS ACTIONS. THEY WER
TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE IT.
>> YOU HAD ANOTHER SOLUTION. WE
HAVE EMPTY CHALLENGES. THEY
HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED FROM THIS
NEW DIRECTION. I AM SO CONCERNE
ABOUT STAFFING SHORTAGES. THEY
HAVE ALL RECEIVED ALL OF THESE
THINGS. THIS IS WORTH THREE
EMPLOYEES. 24 HOUR A DAY, 365
DAYS A YEAR EFFICIENT STAFF
MEMBER. THEY WILL RISE ON
MANDATORY OVERTIME KICKERS AND
CATCHERS. THEY HAVE OTHER
CONTEXTUAL ISSUES. THIS WAS A
2016 CONSULTANT STUDY. THIS
INCLUDED THE CALL CENTER. THIS
DEPARTMENT WAS UNDERSTAFFED. TH
COUNCIL TRIED TO TAKE THESE
STEPS FOR ADDRESSING THIS WITH
THE FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL
CONDITIONS. THEY HAVE DIFFEREN
CALL TAKERS.
>> THIS IS PART OF THE DIRECTOR
SEVERAL OF THOSE DIRECTORS, AS
WE HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD,
INCLUDE SEVERAL INTERIM
DIRECTORS. I HAVE CONVENED A
MONTHLY INTERDEPARTMENTAL
WORKING THEME. THIS WILL HELP
MOLD THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT IN
OCTOBER. THIS IS MUCH LESS THAN
ONE WEEK AWAY. THEY WERE
LOOKING AT ANOTHER PILOT. THIS
IS ONE OF THE COUNCIL AND THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE IS LOOKING AT. I
BELIEVE WE CAN AGREE IT IS
UNNECESSARY. IT IS ONGOING FROM
THE NEW DEPARTMENT. THIS WOULD
BE THE STUDY OF THE SUBJECT
RESEARCH. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
EQUITABLE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE COMMON
STAFF. THEY WERE TRYING TO LEAR
MORE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT
SUCCESS. THEY'RE TRYING TO
SUPPORT THE CARE DEPARTMENT.
THEY ARE FULLY REALIZING THE
SHARED VISION FROM THE COUNCIL
AND THE EXECUTIVE. HAVE THE
THIRD ENERGY DEPARTMENT FROM TH
CITY. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, MIGHT INTERPRE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF ARE HERE TO
PRESENT THE EXECUTIVES FROM THE
PROPOSED BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS FOR
THE COMMUNITY SAFETY. NEXT
SLIDE PLEASE. THE DEPARTMENTS
POST WEEKLY FOR BUDGET. $4.9
MILLION HIGHER. THIS IS
DIFFERENT FROM THE 24 THAT HAVE
BEEN ENDORSED TREATED AS A TOTA
OF $26.6 MILLION. THEY HAVE $4
MILLION. THIS IS A ONE-TIME USE
OF $900,000 IN THE COUNT
BALANCES FROM THE SAME FUNDING
SOURCES. I WILL GO INTO DETAIL
ABOUT THOSE SITES. THE
DEPARTMENTS HAVE DIFFERENT FT
LEVELS. 150. 163. THIS INCLUDES
A NEW TEAM. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
POSITIONS TO BUILD UP THE
DEPARTMENTS IN THE MINISTRY OF
STRUCTURES. THEY WERE LOOKING A
THE DIFFERENT CALL CENTERS.
FURTHER REDUCTION FROM THE 2023
ADOPTED BUDGET, THIS INCLUDES
THE 2024 ENDORSED BUDGET. THIS
IS ANOTHER REMINDER THAT THIS
INCLUDES THE DIFFERENT
ACTIVATION OF THE 26th FT THAT
THEY ADDED IN THE 2022 ADOPTED
BUDGET. IT WAS NEVER FILLED.
THIS WILL REFLECT THE
DEPARTMENTS INTENDED NEW BUDGET
SUMMARY LEVEL. THIS IS ANOTHER
STRUCTURE. THEY CREATED THIS.
THIS WAS IN 2021. THEY HAD ONLY
ONE. THEY HAD COMMUNITY SAFETY,
AND COMMUNICATION CENTERS. THEY
WERE TRYING TO RETIRE THAT NAME
THEY BROUGHT THAT TO 911 CALL
RESPONSES. THEY HAVE COMMUNITY
ASSISTANT RESPONSE AND
ENGAGEMENTS. IS IN A DIFFERENT
SECTION OF CARE.
>> NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
>> WOULD TYPICALLY ADDRESS 'S
PRESENTATION AT THE END OF THES
PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE MOVED IT
UP. THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION
WAS REALLY FUNDAMENTAL. THIS WA
FROM THE DEPARTMENTS FEATURE
OPERATIONS. THIS COULD BE FROM
THE EXPANSION IN YEARS TO COME.
IN ESSENCE, IT IS THE MAIN EVEN
TODAY. THE CARE DEPARTMENT
ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ITS NAME,
WOULD MAKE SEVERAL AMENDMENT TO
THE CITY CHARTER. FIRST, IT
WOULD RENAME THEIR DEPARTMENT.
IT WOULD ESTABLISH A NEW AND
AMBITIOUS MISSION FROM THE
DEPARTMENTS. THEY WILL PUT IT
UP ON SCREEN. I THINK THAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN. ALL RIGHT. NEW
MISSION FOR THE CARE DEPARTMENT
THEY ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY
SERVICES. THEY ARE UNIFYING AND
ALIGN THE CITY'S COMMUNITY
FOCUSED, NONPUBLIC SAFETY
INVESTMENTS. THEY HAVE
>> CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE
THREE, PATTY? THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THE LEGISLATION ALSO ADD
THREE NEW BODIES OF WORK, UNDE
THIS OVERARCHING MISSION. THOS
BODIES OF WORK ARE DIRECT
RESPONSE TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
CALLS, A NEW INITIATIVE TO
INTEGRATE THE VIOLENCE
INTERVENTION PROGRAMS, INCLUDIN
GUN VIOLENCE, AND THE
UNIFICATION AND ALIGNMENT OF
COMMUNITY FOCUSED, NON-POLICED
PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENTS.
FINALLY, IT WOULD CHANGE THE
TITLE OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD
FROM DIRECTOR TO CHIEF. I KNOW
COUNCILMEMBERS ARE GOING TO HAV
QUESTIONS, BUT THERE ARE A
COUPLE POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE JUST TO FRAME THAT
DISCUSSION. FIRST OF ALL, WE
HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH
COUNCILMEMBERS A LOT THIS YEAR
ABOUT THE DUAL DISPATCH
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONSE, AND
THE WAY THIS LEGISLATION IS
HIERARCHICALLY ORGANIZED, AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD DESCRIBED
THAT RESPONSE IS JUST A
SECOND-LEVEL PROJECT, THE
CONCEPT FOR THE DEPARTMENT IS
MUCH BROADER. IT IS TO IMPROVE
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY
SERVICES LANGUAGE. AND ALSO,
THIS SCOPE EXPANSION IS
HAPPENING VERY QUICKLY. IN 2021
THE CSCC WAS THE CALL CENTER,
PERIOD. IN 2024, THE NEW
C.A.R.E. DEPARTMENT IS PROPOSED
TO HOUSE THE CALL CENTER, AND,
TWO NEW HIGH-PROFILE BODIES OF
WORK, INCLUDING TAKING ON A
PUBLIC HEALTH ROLE.
>> ALEXANDER LEWIS?
>> THANKS SO MUCH. IS THIS A
GOOD TIME FOR QUESTIONS, OR DO
YOU HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES YOU
WANT TO GET THROUGH?
>> I AM DONE WITH MY SUMMARY. I
AM HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS
SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE MORE
APPROPRIATE FOR EXECUTIVE STAFF
TO ANSWER.
>> OKAY, GREAT. I'LL JUST JUMP
IN. MOSTLY, I JUST WANT TO
SIMILARLY OFFER DEEP GRATITUDE
ALONG THE LINES OF CHAIR
HERBOLD FOR THAT REALLY CLOSE
COLLABORATION OF THE EXECUTIVE
TEAM, ON STANDING UP THESE
REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL AND
IMPORTANT SERVICES, AND THESE
INNOVATIVE, COEQUAL PUBLIC
SAFETY DEPARTMENT WE ARE
BUILDING. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO
LIFT UP THE LEADERSHIP OF SOON
TO BE DESIGNATED WITH THE TITL
OF INTERIM CHIEF, I GUESS, BY
THE LEGISLATION. AMY SMITH FOR
HER WORK ON PUTTING THIS
TOGETHER, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU,
ANN, AND GREG DOSS, AND COUNCI
CENTRAL STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON
THIS PROJECT. I JUST WANT TO
SAY, I WANT TO RESPOND TO SOME
OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE
HEARD, IN THE COMMUNITY AROUND
THE VITALITY OF OUR ALTERNATIV
RESPONSE. I THINK THAT THE
CHARACTERIZATIONS WE HAVE HEARD
IN SOME QUARTERS -- THIS MIGHT
BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
CLARIFICATION FROM EXECUTIVES
FROM COUNTY STAFF -- ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY BASED ON A
MISUNDERSTANDING OF COMPLAINING
DUAL DISPATCH WITH CO-RESPONSE.
A LOT OF THE COMMENTARY THAT I
HAVE SEEN IN THE PRESS, IN SOME
QUARTERS, IT ACCURATELY PUTS
THE SERVICE WITHIN THE COMMAND
AND CONTROL POLICE, OR IMPLIES
THAT IT IS A SERVICE THAT IS
SOMEHOW PURELY GAIT KEPT OR
CONTROLLED BY THE POLICE. THAT
IS NOT THE CASE. YOU KNOW, THIS
IS A DUAL DISPATCH MODEL. THIS
SENDS BEHAVIORAL MENTAL HEALTH
CLINICIANS TO CALL THAT THE
POLICE DO NOT NEED TO GO TO. AN
OF COURSE, IT DOES INVOLVE,
UNCOORDINATED AND CONSULTATION
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS IT
SHOULD. THESE RESPONSE MODELS
IN OTHER CITIES ARE NOT
ANTAGONISTIC TO THE POLICE.
CAHOOTS, INDEED, THE WELLSPRING
PROGRAM OF THESE RESPONSE
PROGRAMS, GOT ITS MONITOR,
CAHOOTS, COMMUNITY ASSISTING
HELPING OUT IN THE STREETS,
BECAUSE THEY WERE IN CAHOOTS
WITH THE POLICE AS KIND OF A
PLAYFUL PLAY ON IT. THERE ARE
RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THESE
RESPONSES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT,
THERE HAS TO BE FOR THIS TO WOR
EFFECTIVELY. SO, I DO JUST WANT
TO DO THAT LEVEL SETTING, THAT
THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD, THI
GOES BEYOND THE CO-RESPONDER
PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN TH
PAST, LIKE CRISIS INTERVENTION
TEAM, TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT I
NEW, THAT IS CRITICAL, THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. AND
REALLY, WANTED TO GIVE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO MAKE
THAT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I
HEAR IT A LOT OUT IN THE
COMMUNITY, THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW
NOT A STEP FORWARD, AND THAT
THIS IS GOING TO HAVE LIMITED
UTILITY. THAT IS JUST NOT A
REFLECTION OF THE WORK WE HAVE
DONE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT IS STILL CLEAR, AND THANK
EVERYONE FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT,
BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG DEAL. SO,
THANK YOU.
>> IF I COULD RESPOND, I KNOW
THAT CSCC STAFF HAVE BEEN BOTH
BENEFITING FROM THE GUIDANCE O
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT I
SETTING UP THE NEW PROGRAM, AN
TAKING VERY DELIBERATE STEPS T
ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE
THAT THE RESPONSE WE PROVIDED
IS NOT A POLICE RESPONSE. I
THINK THAT THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD
TIME FOR CSCC STAFF TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ONGOING
PARTNERSHIP. BUT ALSO, WHAT IS
VERY CLEARLY GOING TO BE AN
INDEPENDENCE DEPARTMENT.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE I SHOUL
BE IN HERE.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> I'M SORRY.
>> YES, GO AHEAD.
>> WELL, I JUST THANK YOU, AND
ONE SECOND, IF WE COULD, IT
LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE --
>> THERE WAS A QUESTION DIRECTE
TO THE EXECUTIVES, SO I THINK
MAYBE DEPUTY MAYOR BURGESS
MIGHT BE BEST TO RESPOND.
>> DEPUTY MAYOR BURGESS,
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD
ON THAT?
>> SURE, YES, THANK YOU. I JUS
WANT TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT
HERE THAT THIS NEW DEPARTMENT
IS NOT GOING TO ASSUME
RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY PUBLIC
HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROGRAMS. WE
ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THIS
DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO TAKE OVE
THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, OR
ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. WHEN
WE REFER TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND
PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT IS
REFLECTING OUR HAROLD VIEW, THA
TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY IS MUCH
BROADER THAN JUST THE POLICE
INVOLVEMENT THAT WE SEE, AND I
INVOLVES THE COMMUNITY, IT
INVOLVES CONSIDERING HEALTH
FACTORS LIKE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
AND SUBSTANCE USE, ET CETERA.
SO, DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A
ATTEMPT TO MOVE PUBLIC HEALTH
DEPARTMENT PROGRAMS INTO THE
CARE DEPARTMENT. IN TERMS OF
THE COLLABORATION WITH POLICE
AND SUCH, I THINK CHIEF SMITH
WOULD BE BEST TO RESPOND TO
THAT, BECAUSE SHE IS THE ONE
THAT HAS BEEN ORGANIZING, AND
DIRECTING, AND FACILITATING
THAT.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU, DEPUTY
MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, ALL, FOR
YOUR COMMENTS. IT IS VERY
MEANINGFUL, ACTUALLY, TO SIT
HERE AND FEEL THIS MOMENT, THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF IT, AND ALL OF
THE WORK THAT HAS PREDATED ME.
ON THE COLLABORATION, WHAT I
WOULD SAY IS THAT I AM PROBABLY
FAR MORE SCIENTIFIC AND
PRACTICAL THAN WHAT IS OFTEN
FOUND IN GOVERNMENT. SO, I CAM
IN FROM THE OUTSIDE AND I AM
JUST SAYING, WE HAVE A BODY OF
WORK OVER HERE AND A BODY OF
WORK OVER HERE FOR CO-RESPONSE
AND POLICE. I AM IN THE CALL
CENTER LOOKING AT THE DATA, 500
CALLS A YEAR, ABOUT HALF DON'T
NECESSARILY BENEFIT FROM EITHER
TEAM. SO, I AM LOOKING AT WHAT
IS IN PLACE, HOW THAT SYSTEM IS
OPERATING, AND WHAT THE
RESOURCES ARE AT THE COUNTY AND
CITY LEVEL, AND JUST SORT OF
STITCHING THAT TOGETHER. MOST O
THIS WORK HAS BEEN MANAGED BY
POLICE. NOT BECAUSE THEY CHOSE
TO MANAGE IT, BUT BECAUSE WE
HAVE HAD THOSE 911 CALLS. SO, I
THINK IT IS VERY LOGICAL TO
START WITH CHIEF DAN WILSON
NOW, WHO IS THE FIRST
CO-RESPONDER. STARTED TO GO DOW
THIS PATH IN 2010 WITH JUSTIN,
AND IT WAS A WILD IDEA AT THE
TIME. THAT WASN'T VERY LONG AGO
BUT IT WAS AN INTERESTING IDEA
THAT YOU HAVE AN OFFICER GO OUT
WITH A MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONAL. AGAIN, DAN, I FIN
TO BE DEEPLY PRACTICAL, THE WAY
HE THINKS ABOUT IT. THIS IS WHA
HE IS CONCERNING, THAT THERE I
A LOT OF MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS,
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS IN
NEED, AND NO MATTER HOW UPSCALE
HE IS, THAT IS NOT HIS
PROFESSION, AND HIS CORE
DISCIPLINE, AND SHE WOULD
BENEFIT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. SO,
THAT IS WHERE IT STARTED. SO,
ONCE I REALIZED THE GENESIS IN
OUR CITY, THAT IT HAD BEEN GOIN
WELL, BECAUSE IT HADN'T
NECESSARILY SCALED THE WAY I
WOULD HAVE, THAT IS WHY THE
COLLABORATION -- I BELIEVE THE
COLLABORATION SAVES US A LOT OF
MONEY AND MAKES US VERY SMART.
SO, THERE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 12
DEPARTMENTS THAT I AM WORKING
PRETTY CLOSELY WITH RIGHT NOW,
AND WE JUST HEARD
TRANSPORTATION, REFLECT, WE
HAVE THIS CONCERN ON THE BUS, W
HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH PROVISIO
IN THE LIBRARIES HERE. WE ARE
ALL IN FIVE IN THIS WORK
TOGETHER, AND WE WILL SAVE A LO
OF MONEY AND A LOT OF TIME, TO
JUST BENEFIT FROM CAMARADERIE A
WE WORK TOGETHER, SO I AM VERY
GRATEFUL OF MY WORK WITH POLICE
OF MY WORK WITH FIRE, AND WILL
CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THAT PATH
THE SAME WAY I AM RIGHT NOW.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANKS SO MUCH. DEPUTY MAYO
BURGESS, YOU ANTICIPATED A
QUESTION RELATED TO THE PUBLIC
HEALTH IN THE ORDINANCE. THE
-- I THINK YOU ARE WELL AWARE,
AS AWARE AS ANYBODY, THAT THE
CITY OF SEATTLE AND PUBLIC
HEALTH ARE PARTIES TO ENTER A
LOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH SETS
FORTH THE GOALS AND
RESPONSIBILITIES AROUND HOW TH
CITY SUPPORTS EXISTING PROGRAMS
IN PUBLIC HEALTH. WHETHER OR
NOT IT IS SAFETY PROGRAMS, OR
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER PROGRAMS
OR COMMUNITY HEALTH PROGRAMS,
THERE IS A WIDE SWATH OF
SERVICES THAT WE BUY FROM KING
COUNTY, BUT THAT KING COUNTY
PUBLIC HEALTH IS THE PRIMARY
PROVIDER OF THOSE SERVICES, OR
THE PRIMARY CONTRACTOR OF THOSE
CONTRACTED SERVICES. SO, I AM
JUST WONDERING -- AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT IN DEVELOPING
LEGISLATION FOR THE NEW CARE
DEPARTMENT, THAT PUBLIC HEALTH
HAS NOT BEEN CONSULTED, AND
FROM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING,
DEPUTY MAYOR BURGESS, THEY
WEREN'T CONSULTED BECAUSE YOU
WEREN'T SEEING THIS AS TAKING O
A HEALTHCARE ROLE. SO, MAYBE
DIDN'T SEE THE NEED. BUT, I
GUESS MY QUESTION IS REALLY, HO
ARE WE GOING TO -- INTERNALLY
FOR OURSELVES IN THE CITY --
MAKE THAT DELINEATION, CREATE
THAT BRIGHT LINE, SO THAT WE CA
ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT
DUPLICATING THE WORK OF PUBLIC
HEALTH. AND WHAT IS YOUR VISIO
FOR THAT? I THINK THE
TRANSLATION, AS IT IS CURRENTLY
DRAFTED, DOESN'T MAKE THAT
CLEAR.
>> YEAH. THANK YOU. LISTENING
TO THIS DISCUSSION, MAYBE WE
SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE WORD
"PUBLIC" OUT OF PUBLIC HEALTH,
AND JUST REFER TO HEALTH AND
SAFETY, BECAUSE I THINK WE WOUL
ALL AGREE THAT THERE IS A VERY
STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES. IN
TERMS OF COLLABORATION AND
CONSULTING, MAYBE, CHIEF SMITH,
YOU WOULD WANT TO RESPOND TO
THAT?
>> YES. I AM COLLABORATING WIT
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AT THE COUNTY
LEVEL AND HOUSING, SO I KNOW
MICHAEL REALLY WELL, I KNOW
FRANK REALLY WELL, WE TALKED A
LOT ABOUT THE GAPS AND THE
OVERLAPS. I THINK SEATTLE IS S
UNIQUE IN THE CONTEXT OF KING
COUNTY. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT
MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE, THEY
HAVE A COUNTYWIDE LOCAL CRISIS
TEAM THAT HAS BEEN GOING OUT,
TRYING TO COVER THE WHOLE
COUNTY, AND THAT IS JUST NOT A
VIABLE MODEL, AT ALL. SO, THE
COORDINATION IS HAPPENING, AND
THE CONVERSATIONS -- I WOULD
NEVER LEAVE OUT THE COUNTY. I
THINK PHILOSOPHICAL TO
>> I JUST NEED TO INTERRUPT.
THAT ISN'T WHAT I -- I DIDN'T
MEAN THAT THERE IS NOT
COLLABORATION GOING ON WITH
PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT, I'M TALKIN
ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
LEGISLATION FOR THE -- YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM
DEVELOPMENT PIECE, I AM TALKING
ABOUT THE LEGISLATION AND THE
VISION FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
>> I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE RU
A RISK OF NOT CO-CREATING POLIC
RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE COUNTY
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TALK MORE
ABOUT HOW WE CAN, WITHIN THE
ORDINANCE, MAKE THIS MORE CLEAR
YOU KNOW, DEPUTY MAYOR BURGESS
PERHAPS STRIKING THE WORD
PUBLIC MIGHT DO THE TRICK, OR
MAYBE MAKING REFERENCE TO THE
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AS THE
MECHANISM. I KNOW KING COUNTY
IS CONSIDERING AS PART OF THEIR
STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AT
PUBLIC HEALTH, SO, MAY BE
REFERRING TO THAT BEING THE
PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS, MIGHT BE A GOOD WA
TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
>> WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO
WORK WITH YOU ON THAT,
COUNCILMEMBER.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. AGAIN, I
REALLY WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR,
I WAS NOT AT ALL SAYING THAT YO
AREN'T DOING COLLABORATION WIT
ALL OTHER INTERESTED
STAKEHOLDERS, AS IT RELATES TO
THE PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT. I KNO
FOR A FACT YOU ARE DOING THAT.
SO, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M JUS
RESPONDING TO COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS' COMMENTS ABOUT HOW THIS
IS BEING CHARACTERIZED IN THE
MEDIA, DUAL DISPATCH VERSUS
CO-DISPATCH. I DON'T UNDERSTAN
THE POLITICS BEHIND THOSE WORDS
OR ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD LIKE A
BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW
IT WILL ACTUALLY WORK WHEN A
CRISIS CALL COMES IN. SO, DOES
THIS MEAN THAT IF SUMMARY COME
INTO A CAFE, AND IS YELLING,
ACTING ERRATICALLY, NO WEAPON,
THEY CALLED 911? AND THEN WHAT
HAPPENS? SO, HOW WOULD IT WORK
IT USED TO BE CALLED DUAL
DISPATCH. LAST YEAR, I WAS
PICTURING, IT WAS SAID THAT
OFFICERS AND MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS WOULD GO OUT
TOGETHER, AND THEN IF THE
OFFICER WASN'T NEEDED, THEY
WOULD JUST GO AWAY, THEN IT
WOULD BE HANDLED. SO, CAN YOU
JUST EXPLAIN?
>> I LOVE EXPLAINING THIS. THE
REALITY IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT TH
DATA AND PRIORITY LEVELS, YOU
HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR,
THOSE RELATE TO ACUITY. ON THE
HEALTH SIDE FOR VIOLENCE, THEN
POTENTIAL VIOLENCE. SO PROBABL
SINCE THE INITIAL TERM SHEET,
FENTANYL USE, AND FENTANYL USE
SOMETIMES CO-OCCURRING WITH
MENTAL HEALTH DOES CREATE MORE
VIOLENCE THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
IN THE PAST. SO, IF I WERE TO
HAVE JOINED 10 YEARS AGO, I
PROBABLY WOULD BE MAKING
DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT
HOW WE OPERATIONALIZE THOSE
INITIALLY. RIGHT NOW, I KNOW
WELL, THOSE LOW ACUITY MENTAL
HEALTH CALLS I AM TALKING ABOUT
THERE IS A PERSON WE CALL DOWN,
WE CALL THEM DOWN FOR A WELFAR
CHECK, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE
LOOKING AT FIRST. BUT, IT IS
FEWER THAN 5% OF THE CALLS RIGH
NOW, OUR PRIORITY THREE. THAT I
BECAUSE OF FENTANYL, PRIMARILY.
THAT IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD, AN
THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN
THE DATA. IF YOU WALK AROUND
DOWNTOWN, IT IS DEMONSTRABLY
MORE -- I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT
TO USE THE TERM VIOLENT, BUT IT
IS ERRATIC AND MORE MANIC
BEHAVIOR THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAV
SEEN 10 YEARS AGO. SO, THAT IS
WHY I DO RECOMMEND RIGHT NOW,
DUAL DISPATCH, MEANING POLICE
CAN ARRIVE AT THE SAME TIME, AN
AT LEAST ARRIVE THERE. WE ARE
CO-CREATING THAT POLICY, TO BE
VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT OPERATIONS,
SO THAT WE DON'T CREATE ANY
THREAT OF HARM TO THESE MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS. YOU CAN
IMAGINE HOW PROTECTIVE I FEEL
RIGHT NOW WITH THIS PROGRAM AN
THE PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED,
BECAUSE I KNOW IF SOMETHING GOE
WRONG INITIALLY, IT COULD DERAI
WHAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS. A
DREAM THAT HAS WORKED FOR MANY,
FOR YEARS, AND YEARS, AND YEARS
THE REALITY IS, THINGS ARE NOT
GOING WRONG, REALLY. AS LONG AS
WE HAVE REALLY GOOD CAUSE ON TH
FRONT END, AND BACK TO THE
ORIGINAL QUESTION IF SOMEONE
CALLS 911, WE ARE ROLLING OUT
SOME NEW CONTENT ANALYSIS TOOLS
THAT ARE ALREADY USED AT SEATTL
FIRE, SO WE CAN BETTER PREDICT
WHEN THIS DISPATCH TEAM IS
APPROPRIATE. THEN, THEY WILL
BOTH BE IN DISPATCH FOR POLICE
CHANNELS, OUR TEAM OF TWO WILL
GO OUT, AND A CIVILIAN PATROL
VEHICLE WILL GO OUT. WHAT I
IMAGINE WILL HAPPEN IS THAT
QUICKLY, THEY WILL GET THE ALL
CLEAR AND BE ABLE TO LEAVE. I A
RECOMMENDING, THOUGH, THAT THEY
DO GO INITIALLY, AND THAT IS
BECAUSE I AM ANCHORED IN PRIME
DATA, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS
THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO
RECOMMEND, THAT MAYBE THAT IS
SHORT-LIVED, AND AFTER 30 DAYS,
60 DAYS, POLICE MAKE THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO NOT
NEED TO BE THERE. WE ARE NOT
ADDING ANY VALUE, THERE IS NO
RISK, 911 HAS GOT THIS RIGHT,
THE POINT OF FIRST CONTACT, THE
ARE MAKING THE APPROPRIATE
RECOMMENDATION. I CAN IMAGINE
THAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT I CANNOT
MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL I MAKE
THAT RESPONSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU. SO, IT IS KIND O
ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, WHETHE
OR NOT A UNIFORMED RESPONSE
ACCOMPANIES THE MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS? IS THAT -- THAT
IS WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING YOU
SAY, AND CORRECT ME IF I AM
WRONG. AND THEN, THE PERSON
DOWN -- OR -- IT SOUNDS LIKE YO
ARE DESCRIBING AN OVERDOSE. SO,
THE PEOPLE GOING OUT, DO THEY
HAVE MEDICAL DEGREES? SO, MAYB
YOU CALL PARAMEDICS, OR AN
AMBULANCE, OR SOMETHING.
>> RIGHT, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING
NEAR THE BODY OF WORK THAT
HEALTHONE IS COVERING RIGHT NOW
SO, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON TH
FLOOR, 911, JUST LISTENING AND
OBSERVING. WE HAVE VERY CLEAR
PROTOCOLS, AND IT APPEARS TO BE
MEDICAL. WHAT I'M TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT ON THE BACK END IS,
HOW CAN THESE TEAMS INVOKE ONE
ANOTHER? THAT IS WHAT I OBSERVE
IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT IS NOT NEARL
AS LINEAR AS WE DESCRIBE IT. I
IS ALMOST LIKE FIGURE EIGHTS,
YOU KNOW? SEVERAL DIFFERENT
RESPONSE TEAMS, AND SOMETHING
NEW IS LEARNED, AND THEY CAN
JUST CALL THE TOGETHER TEAM. SO
BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY
THIS STRONG COLLABORATION, THAT
IS WHY. BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT,
THESE TEAMS ARE ALL GOING TO BE
IN THE FIELD WORKING TOGETHER,
THEY NEED TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER,
THEY NEED TO RESPECT ONE
ANOTHER, AND WORK IN TIGHT
COORDINATION.
>> I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH TIGHT
COORDINATION. I MEAN, BECAUSE
ONE NEVER KNOWS WHAT IS GOING T
HAPPEN UNTIL ONE GETS TO THE
SCENE, ALSO. SO, WHO KNOWS WHAT
THEY ARE GOING TO ENCOUNTER? ON
OTHER THING ABOUT THE
OPERATIONS, CAN YOU TELL US HO
11-11, 11:00 A.M. TO 11:00 P.M.
WAS CHOSEN? BECAUSE -- I WILL
JUST SAY WHY -- BECAUSE IN THE
MORNINGS, WHEN PEOPLE ARE
COMMUTING TO WORK, GETTING OFF
THE BUS, WALKING AROUND WHEN
SHOPS ARE OPENING UP, THAT OUR
SEEMS TO BE KEY, FROM BEFORE
11:00, IT SEEMS THERE COULD ALS
BE A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF
RESPONSE. SO, I AM JUST
WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU
DISCOVERED IN YOUR RESEARCH AND
EXPERIENCE, WHY THOSE HOURS WER
CHOSEN?
>> YES, AGAIN, THOSE ARE NOT TH
HOURS THAT I INHERITED. BUT,
ONCE I WAS PULLED INTO THE DATA
AT SPD, THEY CALL IT THE CREW
DATA, SO AGAIN, INCREDIBLY
GENEROUS THAT THEIR ANALYTICS
TEAM HAS BEEN SUPPORTING ME WIT
THIS, IT DROVE A LOT OF
EFFICIENCY EARLY ON. SO, I AM
WATCHING NOT JUST HOW WE
DISPATCH, BUT HOW THESE CALLS
ARE CLEARED, BASICALLY. HOW DO
THEY GET RESOLVED? WHAT DID WE
DETERMINE IT ACTUALLY WAS? THE
REALITY IS, IT KIND OF ESCALATE
THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND THEN
ABOUT 11:00 P.M., AND THE
WORKING THEORY IS, BECAUSE
PEOPLE GO BACK INTO SHELTER ONC
THEY FALL ASLEEP. THE REASON I
RECOMMENDED SHIFTING LATER, IS
BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SEEM LOGICAL
TO DUPLICATE THE HOURS OF
HEALTHONE AND POLICE CRT TEAM.
IT SEEMED LIKE I WAS STANDING
AT THE COVER FOR THE BANKER
HOURS, AND I KNOW THEY DID THAT
BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN MORE
RESOURCES ARE OPENED. SO, IF YO
NEED TO TRANSPORT SOMEONE, OR
REFER TO SOME KIND OF TREATMENT
YOU JUST GOT MORE AVAILABLE. BU
AGAIN, THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS T
COVER MORE HOURS, MORE CALLS, S
IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME
THAT WE WOULDN'T -- IF WE KNEW
THAT THE CRISIS DATA INDICATES
9:00, 10:00, 11:00, OR WHENEVE
IT IS GETTING DRAMATIC OUT
THERE, IT SEEMED LIKE I SHOULD
COVER THAT FIRST.
>> THANKS.
>> AND WE MAY AMEND IT, TOO.
THERE IS A LOT OF ATTITUDE RIGH
NOW BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ORGANIZE
WITH LABOR YET, THIS INITIAL
TEAM WAS SELECTED BECAUSE I
CONSIDER THESE VERY THINKING
PEOPLE, INNOVATIVE PEOPLE WHO
WILL BE SCIENTIFIC, AND MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS QUICKLY.
>> OKAY, THANKS. I DO HAVE
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES NEXT. SO
COUNCIL PRESIDENT?
>> I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I AM NOT
TRYING TO JUMP THE LINE, BUT MY
HAND THING IS BROKEN, IT IS
ACTUALLY NOT WORKING. FIRST OF
ALL, THANK YOU, CHIEF AMY SMITH
FOR THE INFORMATION. I HAVE A
FEW FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS JUST S
I CAN CLARIFY. SO, NUMBER ONE,
THANK YOU FOR SAYING ABOUT WHA
OTHER DEPARTMENTS YOU ARE
WORKING WITH, BESIDES OUR CITY
DEPARTMENTS. YOU SAID 12. ARE
YOU ALSO WORKING WITH SOUND
TRANSIT? AS YOU KNOW ON SOUND
TRANSIT, WE HAVE HAD AN
EXPONENTIAL SPIKE IN OVERDOSES,
ASSAULTS, VIOLENCE, MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES. IS THAT ON YOUR
RADAR, AS WELL?
>> YEAH. IT WAS JUST
COINCIDENTAL, BUT I JUST
PRESENTED IMMEDIATELY AFTER AT
COMMUNITY MEETING IN WEST
SEATTLE. SO, EVERY DAY,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT OCCURS TO
ME, THAT THIS IS A SOURCE OF
GREAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE
JOHNNY AIRFIELD HAS BEEN ONE OF
THE CLOSEST COLLABORATORS. JUS
VERY HELPFUL AND STRATEGIC IN
BRINGING ME INTO COORDINATING
MEETINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY
EXISTED IN THAT SPACE. SO, YES.
I NEED MORE HOURS IN THE DAY
BECAUSE, YES, I AGREE.
>> AND HOPEFULLY -- I'M
GUESSING YOU HAVE BEEN -- I
MEAN, JULIE TIM IS AMAZING AS
THE CEO NOW AND THAT HAS BEEN
THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN OUR
EXPERIENCE. REPRESENTING WITH
THE MAYOR ON SOUND TRANSIT. IN
THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE ARE
HAVING THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF
DEATHS ACTUALLY AT NORTHGATE,
AND MORE SO DOWN SOUTH. BUT,
THAT IS ANOTHER STRUGGLE JUST O
THAT TRANSIT SPINE. SO, ALL OF
US KNOW IT IS NOT JUST A CITY
IN SEATTLE. WHEN WE SAY OTHER
CITY DEPARTMENTS, WE ARE ALSO
TALKING ABOUT PLACES WHERE
PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING MENTAL
HEALTH , ADDICTION, VIOLENCE,
AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES FROM
THAT. WHAT OUR RESPONSE IS TO
THAT, SOMETIMES, IT IS KING
COUNTY SHERIFF OR SPD. SO, MY
FOLLOW-UP, THEN, IS WHEN YOU AR
TALKING ABOUT THE CRISIS DATA
AND DISPATCH -- AND I KNOW THER
HAS BEEN A FOCUS BECAUSE
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, WHO CHAI
PUBLIC SAFETY, GETTING ALL OF
US INVOLVED, AND ALL OF US,
ACTUALLY, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A
FOCUS OUT THERE DOWNTOWN. SO,
OBVIOUSLY, I REPRESENT ALL OF
THE CITY OF SEATTLE, BUT MY
STATEMENT ALWAYS IS, I TRIED
HONOR THE NEEDS OF MY DISTRICT.
SO, WE HAVE SEEN, AGAIN, THE
SPIKE IN CALLS ON AURORA AND
LAKE CITY, JUST OFF THE CHARTS.
SHOOTINGS NOW WHERE WE NEVER
HAD THEM BEFORE. AND I AM NOT
TRYING TO CRIMINALIZE ADDICTION
OR HOMELESSNESS, THAT IS NOT MY
POINT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THA
YOU COME FROM THIS WITH A
PERSPECTIVE OF, THE DATA, WHAT
YOU ARE SEEING, AND ALSO HOW WE
SEE THIS, CITYWIDE. SO, IS
THERE GOING TO BE -- AND I WAS
JUST GOING THROUGH THE
LEGISLATION THIS MORNING. ABOUT
WHAT THE INITIATIVE WOULD FOCU
ON, IN THE GUN VIOLENCE
COMMUNITY BASED INTERVENTION
AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS.
IS THERE GOING TO BE MORE FROM
YOU, FOLKS, ON WHAT THE DATA
LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE HAVE NEVER
HAD CITYWIDE? THIS IS GOING TO
COME UP THIS AFTERNOON, TOO,
SOME OF THAT TECHNOLOGY PILOT
PROJECTS IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,
THAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF, BUT
ALSO WANTED TO KNOW A LOCATION,
AND I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO
THE SAME HISTORICALLY CRITICAL
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PEOPLE ALWAY
JUST FOCUS ON, BECAUSE THE FAC
IS, IT ISN'T JUST -- I WILL JUS
SAY IT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE
HONEST, IT IS LACK OF BROWN
PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING HURT BY
THIS. WHEN YOU ARE DOWN ALL
THESE OFFICERS AND WE ARE NOT
GETTING THE 911 RESPONSE, AND
HAVE BEEN AROUND IN THIS CITY
MANY, MANY, MANY DECADES AND
SEEN A LOT, AND I HAVE NEVER
SEEN IT THIS BAD. SO, I GUESS
WHAT I AM ASKING IS, IF YOU ARE
GIVING US THE CRISIS DATA AND
ALL OF THE OTHER INFORMATION, W
COULD ALSO SEE SOME MORE
INFORMATION COMING OUT FROM
DISTANT NEIGHBORHOODS AND
DISTRICTS.
>> SO, THIS DATA COMPONENT IS
SO CRITICAL TO THIS. AS WE SET
UP A DASHBOARD, IT HAS TO
INCLUDE THE FIRE DATA AND POLIC
DATA, AS WELL, SO YOU COULD
REALLY LOOK HOLISTICALLY AT WHA
IS HAPPENING. THE PUBLIC CAN SE
QUICKLY WHAT INTERVENTIONS LOOK
LIKE THEY ARE WORKING, AND WHAT
WE SHOULD SCALE. RATHER THAN
TRYING NEW THINGS ALL THE TIME,
THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE
KNOW WORK. SOMETIMES, I DESCRIB
IT LIKE A SLINGSHOT. SOMETIMES,
IT TAKES MORE TIME AND
INVESTMENT ON THE FRONT END, BU
THEN YOU ARE OFF AND YOU CAN
CONTINUE TO SCALE, AND REFINE,
AND ITERATE, BUT WE ARE NOT
DOING THAT AGAIN. AGAIN, MY
CLOSEST COLLEAGUES REALLY ARE
THE DATA FOLKS AND THE RESEARCH
FOLKS OVER AT PD, BECAUSE WE AR
ALL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME
ISSUES. AGAIN, BRINGING IN
COUNTY FOLKS, LEGAL MINDS.
THERE IS A REASON I AM THERE,
YOU KNOW? EVERYBODY IS SORT OF
ADJACENT TO THE WORK OF
BOLSTERING PUBLIC SAFETY, AND
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME DATA
WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT,
SINGLE SOURCE OF TRUTH, AND THE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS
CONSISTENT ACROSS THESE
DIFFERENT PRECINCTS AND AREAS.
IT IS A FASCINATING TIME IN
AMERICA BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO
DISTINGUISH WITH THE DATA, WHAT
IS REAL AND WHAT IS URBAN. I
JUST CAME FROM THE MIDWEST,
APPALACHIA, SAME ISSUES. SO,
YES, YES TO ALL OF THE DATA, AN
YES, IT WILL BE CO-PRESENTED. I
NEEDS TO BE DISTILLED FOR THE
PUBLIC SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND
WHAT ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ASK ONE
FOLLOW-UP? THANK YOU. SO, THERE
WAS A TIME WHEN WE SAW MAINLY
RETAIL THEFT IN THE CORE,
DOWNTOWN. NOW, WE ARE SEEING
THE CRASH AND GRABS AND RETAIL
THEFT ON OUR CANNABIS STORES,
OUR HOME DEPOTS, OUR WALGREENS,
OUR TARGETS. SO, SEEING WHAT
KINDS OF CRIMES ARE COMMITTED I
THE CITY, AND THEN IT IS JUST A
CRIME PIECE IN OUR RESPONSE. BU
ALSO, THE SYSTEM FROM TRUE
ADDICTION MENTAL HEALTH, WHERE
PEOPLE NEED HELP. SO, YOU ARE
RIGHT. YOU CAN LOOK AT DATA AND
DATA POINTS, BUT ALL OF THOSE
DATA ARE PEOPLE AND ALL OF THOS
PEOPLE OUR ACTIONS. SO, I AM
HOPING THAT WE CAN FLESH THAT
OUT MORE. AND I AM SURE WE WILL
WITH OUR CONVERSATIONS, BUT I
WANTED TO THANK YOU, AND I HAD
HOPED THAT YOU WOULD SEE MORE O
THAT DATA. SO, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, THAT WAS VER
QUOTABLE.
>> YOU HAVE TIME, I GOT YOU,
GIRL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,
DIRECTOR, CHIEF SMITH. THANK
YOU FOR WALKING THROUGH THE
OPERATIONS OF WHAT IS BEING
COMPLICATED HERE AND SOME OF TH
WORK YOU ARE DOING. IT IS NICE
TO HEAR THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL
ABOUT THE KIND OF THINGS THAT
HAVE BEEN HAPPENING. SO, I
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOU
WHEN YOU WERE DISCUSSING
DISPATCH IS THAT TWO FOLKS WIL
GO OUT IN A CIVILIAN VEHICLE,
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING IS THERE WILL BE OFFICER
IN PRESUMABLY A CONTROL PATROL
CAR WHO GO OUT ON BACKGROUNDS.
SO, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT -- AND THEN YOU SAID, TH
IDEA IS TO CONTINUE IN THIS
FASHION, BEFORE WE HAVE A BETTE
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS
HAPPENING, AND THERE WILL BE A
POINT AT WHICH SOMEBODY WILL
DECIDE THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY
NEED OFFICERS TO GO OUT ANYMORE
BECAUSE THE INITIAL INFORMATION
IS BEING COLLECTED AND
DISPATCHES UNDERSTOOD WELL
ENOUGH NOW THAT WE CAN
DIFFERENTIATE WHEN AN OFFICER
GETS TO GO OUT AND WHEN THEY
DON'T. THERE MAY COME A TIME
WHEN THE DECISION IS MADE
OFFICERS DON'T NEED TO GO OUT
ANYMORE.
>> FIRST, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M
UNDERSTANDING THAT PIECE. IS
THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY?
>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD
CLARIFY IS THAT IT IS NOT
OFFICERS, NECESSARILY, IT IS
PATROL CLEARING THE SCENE. ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT IS BEING
WORKED OUT ON THE POLICE SIDE
RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A
COORDINATING COMMITTEE. AGAIN,
IT IS THE CIT COORDINATOR.
SEVERAL SERGEANTS ARE INVOLVED,
AND THEN, JUST DOWN TO THAT MH
TEAM, AND THEY WERE MAKING
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THE
OFFICERS BEHAVE. I HAVE NOT
HEARD THAT THERE IS A DESIRE TO
GO DOWN TO LOW ACUITY CALLS FO
POLICE. THEY FEEL PRESSURE AND
URGENCY TO GET TO HIGH ACUITY
CALLS. SO, IT IS A FALSE
NARRATIVE THAT POLICE HAVE BEE
ANTAGONISTIC TOWARD THIS
PROGRAM. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT. SO
IF IT HAPPENED, IT WAS PRIOR TO
MY ARRIVAL. I HAVE NEVER
EXPERIENCED THAT, NOT AT ALL. I
HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF GRATITUDE.
WE CANNOT GET TO THESE CALLS,
THE PUBLIC IS FRUSTRATED, WE
WANT TO RE-BOLSTER PUBLIC
CONFIDENCE, AND THIS WILL BE
USEFUL AS FAST AS WE CAN FIGURE
OUT WHAT CALL TYPES ARE
APPROPRIATE, AS FAST AS WE CAN
SCALE UP. I ACTUALLY THINK THER
IS MORE ENERGY FOR THE GROWTH O
THIS DEPARTMENT IN TEAM AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT THAN ANY OTHER
DEPARTMENT. SO, AGAIN, I AM
VERY CURIOUS TO SEE HOW QUICKLY
THE TREND EMERGES, THAT WE HAVE
A LEADING INDICATOR THAT WE ARE
GETTING THAT RIGHT. AND AS FAS
AS IT COMES CLEAR -- AND IT
COULD BE WITHIN WEEKS -- IT
COULD BE THAT WE LOOK VERY MUCH
LIKE ALBUQUERQUE, WHERE IT WAS
VERY CLEAR WHERE THESE
RESPONDERS SHOULD GO AND WHERE
THEY SHOULDN'T. SO, I WILL KEEP
YOU POSTED, FOR SURE.
>> THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL, AND
YOU ARE RIGHT, WE HAVE HEARD
LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE
DEPARTMENT BEFORE THAT THERE AR
CALLS WHERE THEY FEEL THEY ARE
NOT TRAINED, OR EQUIPPED, OR
NECESSARY TO BE AT, SO I THINK
THAT IS PART OF THE WHOLE POINT
OF THIS PROGRAM, AND APPRECIATE
THAT. I THINK WHAT I AM TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT MAYBE YOU
JUST DON'T KNOW THIS, YET, BUT
WHAT DO THOSE METRICS LOOK LIKE
AND WHO DECIDES WHEN IT IS OKA
TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEE
-- WE CAN JUST SEND OUT THE TWO
FOLKS IN THE CIVILIAN
AUTOMOBILE, AND WE DON'T NEED
THIS OTHER COMPONENT.
>> I WILL DERAIL THE WHOLE DAY
IF I REALLY TELL YOU ALL OF THE
METHODOLOGY BECAUSE I GET
EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT THE SIMPL
WAY TO SAY IT IS THAT THERE IS
QUALITATIVE DATA, AND THEN THE
WAY THE CALL DISAPPEARS AFTER.
SO, DID THE MHP AND MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, AFTER THA
CALL, DID THEY FEEL SAFE?
BASICALLY, DID THEY FEEL LIKE
WE GOT IT RIGHT? SAME THING ON
THE OFFICERS' SIDE. DID WE HAVE
TO CALL FOR BACKUP? THAT WILL B
A KEY INDICATOR. IF WE NEVER
HAVE TO CALL FOR BACKUP, THE MH
FEEL LIKE THEY COVER IT WELL,
THEY REFER TO SOME OF THE
SERVICES, THE CALL IS CLEARED.
IF WE ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT, THEN
WE ARE GOING TO KNOW THAT THE
OFFICER WAS UNNECESSARY. SO, I
AM DIVIDING QUALITATIVE DATA ON
BOTH THE MHP SIDE BUT ALSO ON
THE PATROL SIDE.
>> THAT IS VERY HELPFUL. THANK
YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS. BEFORE WE GO TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD. DEPUTY
MAYOR BURGESS, DID YOU HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES' QUESTION
WHICH WAS A VERY GOOD ONE.
ULTIMATELY, COUNCILMEMBER,
EVENTUALLY -- AND I DON'T KNOW
IF THAT IS SIX MONTHS, 12
MONTHS, 18 MONTHS, WHATEVER --
THE 911 CENTER WILL HAVE THREE
OPTIONS. ONE, THEY DISPATCHED
JUST POLICE. TWO, THEY
DISPATCH BOTH POLICE AND ONE O
AMY'S COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAMS.
OR, THREE, THEY JUST SPEND THE
COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM. THAT
IS A LESSON AND A PROCESS THAT
WE WILL LEARN AS WE GO ALONG,
AND AS WE WATCH OTHER CITIES.
AMY HAS BEEN VERY GOOD AT
TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY AN
WATCHING WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE
DONE. WHAT IS REALLY
INTERESTING IS, THE POLICE ARE
THE ONES WHO ARE USUALLY
ADVOCATING FOR GREATER RESPONS
OPTIONS, BECAUSE THEY LOVE
THESE PROGRAMS. WE SAW THAT IN
KIRKLAND, WHERE WHEN THEY FIRS
STARTED, THERE WAS A BIT OF
RESISTANCE FROM POLICE OFFICERS
BUT VERY QUICKLY, THEY REALIZED
THIS IS REALLY GREAT, THIS
HELPS US DO OUR JOB BETTER, AS
WELL. SO, YES. ULTIMATELY, WE
GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE
ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO
HARKEN BACK TO WHEN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WAS IN MORE OF THE
DRIVERS SEAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO
IN DEVELOPING THIS PROGRAM.
THERE OWN DESCRIPTION OF WHAT I
MEANS TO DUAL DISPATCH,
DISPATCH MEANS TO SEND. IT
DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT
POLICE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO
END UP AT LOCATION FOR EVERY
CALL, IT MEANS THAT THERE IS A
CONTINUUM, EVERYTHING FROM BEIN
SITUATIONALLY AWARE THAT A CAL
IS HAPPENING, TO STAGING
NEARBY, TO GOING TO THE
LOCATION. AND SO, UNDER A DUAL
DISPATCH PROGRAM, THE
DEPARTMENT HAS THE AWARENESS
OF THE CALL, OF THE FACT THAT
THE CO-RESPONDERS ARE BEING
SENT, AND THEY CAN MAKE THAT
DECISION. THAT HAS BEEN
INTEGRAL TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENTS UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT DUAL DISPATCH MEANS, SINC
THE VERY, VERY EARLY DAYS OF
THESE DISCUSSIONS. SO, JUST
WANTED TO LET THAT UP, AS WELL.
>> A QUESTION I HAVE, SHIFTING
TO MAY BE A MORE MUNDANE TOPIC,
BUT STILL ONE I THINK HARKENS
BACK TO THE ORIGINAL VISION O
CREATING A THIRD SAFETY
DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS A THIRD
COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT THA
THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS
TO BE A CIVILIAN EYES EFFORT,
AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEE
A LOT OF FOCUS ON THE BRAND
HEADING UP THE DEPARTMENT, AND
AM JUST CONCERNED THAT THE TITL
OF CHIEF DOES NOT LEAD TO THE
MESSAGING THAT I THINK WE WERE
ORIGINALLY MENTIONING. I KNOW
THAT EVERYBODY OVER ON THE
EXECUTIVE SIDE AS WELL FAMILIA
WITH THE DIRECTORY OF OVER 60
ALTERNATIVE CRISIS RESPONSE
MODELS, AND OVER 60
JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTR
THAT I OFTEN .2 WHEN TALKING
ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF OUR
EFFORT, AND I HAVE NOT DONE AN
EXHAUSTIVE REVIEW OF ALL, BUT
HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY ON THE
EXECUTIVE SIDE HAS. I AM JUST
WONDERING, HOW MANY PROGRAMS
LIKE THIS ARE HEADED BY CHIEFS
INSTEAD OF DIRECTORS?
>> I'M REALLY GLAD YOU ASKED
ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE IT WAS
COMICAL THAT I ADVOCATED FOR
COMMUNITY IN THAT. I WAS THE
FIRST RECOMMENDATION I MADE IT
TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. SO, IT
WAS KIND OF ENTERTAINING, AND
THE MAYOR FELT STRONGLY THAT I
YOU WANTED TO ESTABLISH COEQUAL
DEPARTMENTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY,
THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE THREE
CHIEFS. BUT, THERE IS SOMETHING
DIMINUTIVE ABOUT CHIEF DIRECTOR
CHIEF. SO, AGAIN, I RESPECT
DEPUTY MAYOR A LOT, AND I
DIDN'T PUSH BACK AGAINST IT.
WHAT I HAD REALIZED NOW, AGAIN,
DOWN AT A MAJOR CHIEFS
CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW, AND IT WA
BRILLIANT THAT HE DID THAT. IT
ACTUALLY IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT,
NATIONALLY. PEOPLE ARE PAYING
ATTENTION BECAUSE THE ENGLISH
LANGUAGE MATTERS AND MATTERS A
LOT. WITH RESPONDER, I WORKED
REALLY QUICKLY, I NEEDED TO USE
THAT TERM. I'M TRYING TO GET
DISPATCH ACKNOWLEDGED. THESE 91
OPERATORS ARE FIRST RESPONDERS,
AND THAT LEGISLATION NEEDS TO
HAPPEN NATIONALLY. THE COMMUNIT
RESPONDERS, THEY WILL BE FIRST
ON THE SCENE, AS DEPUTY MAYOR
JUST DESCRIBED. SO, THE
LANGUAGE SORT OF LEVEL SETTING
ACROSS PUBLIC SAFETY TO SAY,
THESE ARE OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE O
SIGNIFICANCE. THE JUMPS COME
BECAUSE I AM PROBABLY THE MOST
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH TITLES A
HUMAN HAS EVER BEEN, EVER. I
DIDN'T CARE TO BE CALLED
DIRECTOR, I JUST WANTED TO BE
CALLED AMY. BUT, I JUST WANTED
TO SAY, ALSO, THERE ARE A NUMBE
OF THINGS THAT SEATTLE IS DOING
THAT ARE TRULY INNOVATIVE. WE
HAVE BEEN ASKED BY UNIVERSITY O
CHICAGO HELP LAB IF WE MIGHT
CONSIDER BEING AN IMPLEMENTATIO
STUDY FOR THEM. OUT OF 911 THE
WAY THAT WE ARE IS VERY UNIQUE,
AND THE CHILDREN THAT IS BEING
CAST FOR THAT DEPARTMENT IS
UNPRECEDENTED IN THIS COUNTRY
THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT. SO, I
WOULD CAUTION ANYONE FROM REALL
LOOKING AT WHAT HAS EXISTED. IT
IS GREAT. AGAIN, I LOVE TO
COMPARE AND CONTRAST. BUT,
SEVERAL THINGS WE ARE DOING NOW
ARE ALREADY DEMONSTRATING
GREATER EFFECTIVENESS IN
COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN.
>> SO, DO -- I UNDERSTAND YOU
RESPONSES WERE INNOVATIVE IN
THIS AREA. BUT, I AM STILL
INTERESTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR
NOT OTHER CIVILIAN EYES
COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENTS US
THE TERM "CHIEF."
>> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT I
THINK NOW, THEY WILL. I DO, I
DO, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT LANGUAG
IS SO SIGNIFICANT, FOR THE SAM
REASON. FIRST RESPONDER IS SO
SIGNIFICANT. THE OTHER THING
THAT OCCURRED TO ME, IS THAT I
IS THE COO ALL THE TIME, I'M
JUST NOT USED TO THAT BEING THE
DESCRIPTOR. IT IS JUST A
NORMALIZED TERM. BUT, I DO THIN
THE MAYOR WAS RIGHT, AND I
CHANGED MY MIND.
>> THANK YOU. I DO KNOW THAT
THERE HAS BEEN A BILL IN THE
STATE LEGISLATURE FOR THE LAST
COUPLE OF SESSIONS THAT WOULD
IDENTIFY 911 CALL TAKERS AS
FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THAT IS -
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE TITLE I
OF THE LIEN OF THE DEPARTMENT,
JUST WANTED TO CHECK. I KNOW I
HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CENTRAL
STAFF IN GORMAN ABOUT THIS
PARTICULAR TOPIC. SHE SUGGESTE
I MIGHT ASK HER, IF SHE HAD
ANYTHING TO ADD. SHE MAY HAVE
JUST BEEN PLANNING TO CONVEY
THE INFORMATION THAT YOU
PROVIDED, CHIEF SMITH, BUT JUS
WANTED TO GIVE AMY AN
OPPORTUNITY TO FILL IN HERE IF
THERE WAS ANY MORE TO SAY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD. I HAD INTENDED TO DO
BROADER SURVEY OF THIS TITLE
ISSUE, IN TIME FOR THIS
PRESENTATION. I JUST DID NOT
HAVE TIME. THE ONLY I DIDN'T
KNOW OF PERSONALLY WAS THAT OF
THE KIRKLAND REGIONAL CRISIS
RESPONSE AGENCY. THE HEAD OF
THAT AGENCY IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR, I SAW THAT.
>> YES, BROOKE IS A REALLY GOOD
FRIEND, AND WE ACTUALLY MET THI
WEEK. THIS IS NOT THE PERSON
THAT SAID, THAT IS A BRILLIANT
MOVE TO DRIVE PUBLIC AWARENESS.
SO, I WISH IT HAD BEEN MY UNIQU
IDEA AND CONTRIBUTION, BUT IT
WASN'T. ABOUT THAT SIGNIFICANCE
IT HAD NOT OCCURRED TO ME, THE
PUBLIC HAD SAID THIS. I THINK
COUNCIL WILL REMEMBER WHEN I
PRESENTED AT THE FIRST TIME, I
DIDN'T USE THE TERM
"ALTERNATIVE," BECAUSE I
REALIZED THAT TERM APPLIES LES
THAN IDEAL, RIGHT? IT IMPLIES W
DIDN'T HAVE THE FIRST RESPONSE
WE WANTED SO WE CAME UP WITH
SOME ALTERNATIVES. I AM NOT
USING IT BECAUSE THAT IS THE
WRONG MESSAGE. WE WANT THE FIRS
RESPONSE, WE WANT DIFFERENT
TYPES OF FIRST RESPONDERS. WE
DO NEED A THIRD, COEQUAL, PUBLI
SAFETY DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO
ADVANCE THE GOALS AND
ASPIRATIONS WE HAVE FOR
COMMUNITY.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE
SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
TIME ON THIS, AND I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT, THOUGH, THIS IS
LEGISLATION THE COUNCIL IS
ANTICIPATING TAKING UP AS PART
OF OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS. I
WANTED TO ALLOW AN UPSET AND
ASKED SOME OF THESE IMPORTANT
QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO JUMP IN
ON A FEW COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEE
MADE WITH A FEW QUESTIONS OF MY
OWN ON THIS TOPIC. I HAVE TRIED
TO SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO A
NUMBER OF DISCUSSION POINTS THA
WE HAVE HAD TODAY. SO, THANK
YOU, ALL, FOR HELPING US INFORM
SOME OF THIS DISCUSSION AND SOM
OF THESE QUESTIONS SO FAR, BUT
HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. IF
WE USE THE REMAINDER OF OUR OU
ON THIS, THAT IS OKAY, WE WILL
PICK UP WHERE WE HAVE LEFT OFF,
BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WITHIN THIS SECOND ITEM
ON THE AGENDA THAT WE CAN COME
BACK TO THAT WITHOUT REASON. SO
LET'S CONTINUE ON THE QUESTION
AROUND THE TITLE OF CHIEF. I
THINK ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND
ONE THING I'VE HEARD DIRECTLY
FROM FIRST RESPONDERS, IS THAT
FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICER
HAVE TAKEN BOTH. THEY ARE
REQUIRED TO RESPOND, EVEN IF I
INVOLVES GREAT PERSONAL RISK,
THAT IS THE JOB. SO, THERE ARE
OBLIGATIONS, AS YOU ALL KNOW,
THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER
CITY EMPLOYEES, AND I THINK IT
MAKES AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION
TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CHIEFS IN
THAT STRUCTURE, THE CUT IS THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TYPES O
OATH THEY ARE TAKING, VERSUS TH
ORGANIZATION. SO, I DO WORRY
ABOUT THE USE OF THE WORD CHIEF
CONFUSING THE GENERAL PUBLIC,
AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO WHAT
SHE COMMENTED ON, GIVEN THE FAC
THAT I AM PAIRING WITH FIRST
RESPONDERS, THAT SHE IS A
CIVILIAN CHIEF, WITHIN A
CIVILIAN DEPARTMENT COULD
DIMINISH THE RISK FOR OTHER
OFFICERS. I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT WE HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION AND LOOK TO THE
CENTRAL STAFF ON THIS TO GIVE
THEM THE CHANCE THAT THEY HAVE,
AND THE FACT THAT THE TITLE IS
REALLY GIVEN TO THOSE FIRST
RESPONDERS.
>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO
ASK POLICE COMMAND THIS
AFTERNOON AN OPINION BECAUSE
AGAIN, I AM SURROUNDED BY
POLICE CHIEFS RIGHT NOW AT THIS
CONFERENCE. AND HISTORICALLY,
AM MORE OF THAT MIND THAT I
WANTED TO CIVILIAN EYES. BUT,
I'M TRYING TO DESIGN FOR A
FUTURE STATE. 20 YEARS FROM NOW
SET UP THIS LITTLE ACADEMY FOR
FIRST RESPONDERS THAT LOOKS
VERY MUCH LIKE THE POLICE
ACADEMY, IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. I
IS RIGOROUS. WITH THIS TYPE OF
FIRST RESPONSE, IT IS JUST AS
HARD. IT REALLY IS. IT IS GOING
TO BE APPROXIMATELY SIMILAR,
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FOLKS
IN SAN FRANCISCO, SOME OF THEIR
TEAMS, WHAT THEY GO THROUGH, SO
THAT IS ALL I WOULD SAY. I LOVE
THAT YOU ARE HAVING THE
CONVERSATION. SO, WE ARE
BUILDING A ROCK UPON WHICH
FUTURE GENERATIONS OF FIRST
RESPONDERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO
STAND.
>> AND I THINK THIS ENTIRE
CONVERSATION FALLS ON AN
ALTERNATIVE MODEL AND
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES OFFER THE
BEST. BUT, I ALSO WOULD
ENCOURAGE US TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
FIREFIGHTER PERSONNEL, THE
MODEL THAT HAS BEEN NATIONALLY
RECOGNIZED. SO, WE WANT TO MAK
SURE THAT OUR FIREFIGHTER
PERSONNEL ARE ALSO A PART OF
THIS CONVERSATION AS WE THINK
ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP. NOW,
YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS?
>> TO PUT MY TWO CENTS IN FOR
THE CHIEF DISCUSSION, I DON'T
WANT TO UNDULY PROLONG THIS.
THIS IS IN THE INTEREST OF
SURFACING OPINION AND THIS ISSU
IDENTIFICATION PHASE. SO, I
WANT REALLY REPEAT HER
ARGUMENTS. BUT, I WAS PREPARED
TO MAKE THEM, IF NEEDED. THE
COEQUAL STATUS THAT IS DEFERRED
BY THAT EXIT NATION IS
SOMETHING OF IMPORTANCE, AND
SOMETHING THAT REALLY ELEVATES
THIS WORK IN THE WAY THAT
INTERIM CHIEF SMITH JUST MADE
THAT COMPELLING ARGUMENT. I
WOULD BECOME INCLINED IN THIS
AREA TO GIVE DEFERENCE TO THE
DEPARTMENT ON THAT DESTINATION
AS CHIEF AS THE TITLE, AND I
JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD
STATING, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,
THAT REFERENCE.
>> THANK YOU. THE SECOND ITEM
THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP -- AN
THIS COMES BACK TO SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD ANSWERED
-- QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN AND IF
AN OFFICER IS DEPLOYED WITH TH
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE. I
BELIEVE, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD,
YOU NOTED THIS WILL NOT ALWAYS
BE THE CASE BUT IT WILL DEPEND
ON WHAT THE DISPATCH PERSONNEL
DECIDES TO DO, WITH THAT. GIVE
THAT WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY TO
EXECUTE, THIS IS JUST A
DISCUSSION DURING BUDGET,
LOOKING FOR BETTER LEGISLATIVE
ITEMS, BUT I DO THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO HAVE A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF THESE
PARTICULAR KITE TYPES OF CALLS.
IF WE LOOK AT THE CALLS THAT
ARE THE HIGHEST CALL VOLUME,
THAT IS TRAFFIC CALLS,
SUSPICIOUS PERSONS, PUBLIC
ASSISTANCE, AND WELLNESS CHECK
IT IS NOTED IN THE REPORT THA
MANY OF THESE CALLS ARE NOT
ACTUALLY CRIMINAL IN NATURE AND
DON'T REQUIRE AN OFFICER WITH
THAT. SO, DO WE HAVE A SENSE O
THE TOP FIVE CALLS YIELDING A
DISPATCH THAT WILL NOT INCLUDE
AN OFFICER?
>> YES, WE HAVE ALL OF THE
DATA. I GET WEEKLY REPORTS
ABOUT THE CALL TYPES. AT 911,
AM LOOKING ABOUT HOW WE DISPATC
HOW THE CALL CAME IN. WE REALLY
ARE GOING TO FOCUS NEXT YEAR ON
NOT JUST QUALITY ASSURANCE, BU
QUALITY IMPROVEMENT. HOW DO WE
TAKE WHAT WE ARE LEARNING AND
INFORM PRACTICE? IT IS JUST AL
DIFFERENT WAYS. ON THE POLICE
SIDE, I AM LEARNING ABOUT
HELPING THAT RESOLVED, AND
WHETHER OR NOT POLICE FELT THE
WERE THE BEST FIRST RESPONSE.
THE REALITY IS RIGHT NOW, I HAV
SIX FOLKS -- I HAVE THREE TEAMS
OF TWO. SO, I AM NOT DEDICATIN
A LOT OF MENTAL ENERGY FOR HOW
THIS PROGRAM LOOKS, IN REGARDS
TO CALL TYPE. I'M THINKING A LO
ABOUT, HOW DO WE EXPAND THOSE
SHIFT HOURS, AND HOW DO WE GROW
THIS TEAM? BECAUSE WE NEED MORE
FOLKS JUST FOR WELFARE CHECK. I
HAVE HEARD FROM ALL DIFFERENT
PRECINCTS AND FROM COMMAND, AS
WELL, THAT THESE PERSON
DOWNFALLS TAKE A LOT OF TIME
BECAUSE OFTEN, WE ARE JUST
CHECKING ON SOMEONE. IT WAS
SWEET AND SAD IN THE SUMMER TO
REALIZE HOW MANY FOLKS WERE
COMING TO SEATTLE FROM OUT OF
TOWN, CALL 911 AND SAY, IT
DOESN'T LOOK OKAY. YOU KNOW?
THAT IS JUST SO LOVELY AND
COMPASSIONATE, BUT THOSE WHO
LIVE AND WORK DOWNTOWN, YOU
KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE STILL HAV
TO SEND OFFICERS TO CHECK OUT
THINGS. OFTEN, THEY ARE WAKING
SOMEBODY UP FROM A NAP, AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, I THINK I
IS GOING TO BE A MINUTE BEFORE
WE ARE STAFFED ADEQUATELY TO BE
ABLE TO EXPAND THE WAY
ALBUQUERQUE DID TO A DOZEN
CALLS. BUT, THERE ARE MANY --
AND I AM HAPPY TO SEND YOU SOME
OF THE BEST SOURCES OF RESEARCH
ON THIS -- MANY, MANY, MANY
DIFFERENT CALL TYPES THAT CAN B
EFFECTIVELY HANDLED BY ANOTHER
TYPE OF PERSON.
>> PERHAPS A QUESTION FOR THE
CHAIR OF CENTRAL STAFF, YOU HAV
BEEN MORE INVOLVED IN THE
CREATION OF THE DEPARTMENT
POLICIES, MAY BE IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM. WHEN
DO WE HAVE THAT ANALYSIS?
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN TH
MIDDLE OF TALKING ABOUT THAT. I
APPRECIATE THE SIDEBAR
CONVERSATION WITH POLICY. AND
THEN, AS THE COUNCILMEMBER
NOTED AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR
SESSION, THE CREATION OF THE
C.A.R.E. DEPARTMENT WAS
SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WAS
SPEARHEADING AND VERY EXCITED
ABOUT. SO, THE QUESTION IS,
WHAT ARE WE FUNDING, AND HOW
WILL SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS BE
ANSWERED? ABOUT IF IT IS A DUA
RESPONSE , VERSUS --
>> YES, WELL, THERE IS PUBLIC
FACING DATA. SO, WHAT I AM
TALKING ABOUT, GENERALLY -- THE
ONLY THING I HAVE ACCESS TO, TH
PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO
DAILY, ARE THE ASSOCIATION OF
ACTUAL INDIVIDUALS, IDENTIFIERS
BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THAT CLEAR
SO I COULD SEE MORE THINGS. BUT
YOU CAN SEE THE CALL DATA, THE
POLICE DATA, IT IS PUBLICLY
FACING. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT,
AND I KNOW THIS GROUP KNOWS
THAT, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
UNIQUE, OUTSIDE OF THAT. I COUL
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL
ABOUT HOW THIS PROGRAM IS
LIKELY TO SCALE, AND WHAT WOULD
BE REQUIRED, IN ORDER TO DRIVE
MEANINGFUL IMPACT TO LEAVE A
BURDEN OF POLICE, MEANINGFUL
ECONOMIC IMPACT. OBVIOUSLY,
TEAMS OF DIFFERENT RESPONDERS,
IT IS JUST A MUCH MORE
ECONOMICALLY VIABLE APPROACH.
BUT, LIGHTS AND SIRENS ARE VERY
EXPENSIVE. IT IS INTERESTING,
ALBUQUERQUE DID AN ANALYSIS
ABOUT, ON AVERAGE, WHAT THIS
RESPONSE COSTS, VERSUS WHAT THI
RESPONSE COSTS. I LIKE MAKING
THE BUSINESS CASE FOR IT, AS
WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PUBLI
SAFETY IS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT
PORTION OF THE CITY BUDGET. SO,
I THINK IT WILL REALLY FREE UP
US TO DO MORE MEANINGFUL THINGS
BUT, I AM HAPPY TO SEND AN
EMAIL, AND JUST GIVE YOU MY
POINTS OF REFERENCE, AND
FORECAST WHAT I CAN IMAGINE
HAPPENING. I FEEL TRANSPARENCY
AROUND 24/7 COVERAGE. I IMAGINE
THAT WILL BE THE FIRST
RECOMMENDATION I MAKE. TO DO
THAT, I WOULD NEED TWICE AS MAN
FOLKS, THEY WOULD NEED TO GO
FROM 6 TO 12. IT IS JUST THAT.
>> AND MADAM CHAIR? COUNCIL
CHAIR? YOU CAN GO, AND THEN I
WILL CALL ON THE DEPUTY MAYOR.
>> SURE THING. SO, I JUST
WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE
DECISION TO FOCUS FIRST WITH
THESE FIRST SIX RESPONDERS AND
TWO SUPERVISORS, THE DECISION
TO FOCUS FIRST ON PERSON DOWN O
WELLNESS CALLS, IS A DECISION
THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE
EXECUTIVE HAS MADE TOGETHER. WE
AT THE COUNCIL, HAVE SEVERAL
BUDGET ACTIONS LEADING UP TO
THIS YEAR, IDENTIFIED THOSE AS
THE TWO CALL TYPES TO START,
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT
THERE IS INTEREST IN EXPANDING.
YOU KNOW, WE PASSED
RESOLUTIONS, AND SLIDES, AND AL
KINDS OF BUDGET ACTIONS THAT
CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY THOSE
TWO CALL TYPES. I KNOW THERE IS
A LOT OF INTEREST IN EXPANDING
TO OTHER CALL TYPES. WE KNOW
THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OWN
DATA SUPPORTS THE ORIGINAL NIC
JR. REPORT, THAT 12% OF CALLS
COULD SAY CONCEIVABLY BE
CONVERTED TO ALTERNATIVE
RESPONSE. WHEN WE STOOD
TOGETHER WITH ACTING CHIEF
SMITH, THE MAYOR AND THE NEW
STAFF, THE NEW STAFF WHO HAVE
BEEN HIRED, CHIEF DIAZ WAS
THERE, AND HE SPOKE IN THAT
PRESS ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT HAVIN
AN INTEREST IN AN ALTERNATE
RESPONSE EVOLVING TO INCLUDE
PAGER CALLS. RIGHT? TAKING
REPORTS AFTER AN INCIDENT HAS
HAPPENED, WHEN THERE DOESN'T
NEED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER
BECAUSE THE THING HAS ALREADY
HAPPENED. WHETHER THAT IS AN
ACCIDENT, OR A BURGLARY. SO,
EVEN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE DEPARTMENT
HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN
EXPANSION TO OTHER KINDS OF
CALLS. BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE
TALKING -- WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE
RIGHT NOW WITH TWO SUPERVISORS,
AND WE HAD TO START SOMEWHERE.
THIS SEEMED TO BE, I THINK,
HISTORICALLY, THE FOCUS THAT
THE COUNCIL WAS MOST INTERESTED
IN, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO REDUCE
THAT HARM, ASSOCIATE IT --
>> COUNCILMEMBER, YOU JUST WENT
ON MUTE, I THINK BY ACCIDENT.
>> YOU GOT MY POINT.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO CLOSE THIS OUT, I
HOPE OUR TEAM FROM SPENT
CENTRAL STAFF ARE ABLE TO STAY
WITH US THROUGH 2:00 P.M. IF
THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS YOU
WOULD LIKE TO ADD AT 2:00 P.M.,
GREAT. GO AHEAD.
>> GREAT, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I
WANTED TO ECHO A BIT OF WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS
SAYING, THAT A LOT OF THESE
CHOICES WERE REALLY DRIVEN BY
COUNCIL, BOTH THROUGH YOUR
BUDGET AXE, THROUGH OUR INITIA
TERM SHEET, OUR PARTNERSHIP,
WORKING THROUGH WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD HAS
CHAIRED ON A MONTHLY BASIS. SO
WHETHER THE COUNCIL ALSO WANTS
TO SET OUT SOME METRICS OR WAY
WE ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER
WITH THAT, WITH COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD'S LEADERSHIP TO SORT O
WHAT ARE THE CHECKPOINTS IN
WHICH A COMMITTEE IS GOING TO
MORE FORMALLY LOOK AT THAT DATA
AND HOW WILL WE COLLABORATE TO
MAKE THESE DECISIONS, BECAUSE
COUNCIL HAS BEEN SO INTEGRALLY
INVOLVED IN SETTING UP THE
RESOURCES, AND TERMS FOR WHICH
THIS IS POSSIBLE.
>> GREAT. I THINK THAT IS A
GOOD POINT TO NOTE, THAT WE ARE
NOT ARGUING ABOUT THE MERIT OF
THE DEPARTMENT. I AM NOT TRYING
TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL OF WHY
THEY SHOULD BE LOADED. THAT IS
ALREADY SOMETHING THE COUNCIL
HAS RELIED ON A NUMBER OF TIMES
I THE QUESTION FOR ME IS, YOU
KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE
FUNDING, AND HOW FAST ARE WE
SETTING THINGS UP, SO WE CAN
EXPAND TO MORE OF THE BROAD
DEFINITIONS, CALL TYPES THAT WE
KNOW ARE NOT NECESSARY FOR
OFFICERS? AND WHETHER OR NOT TH
BUDGET ALLOWS FOR THAT
EXPANSION, IS SOMETHING THAT I
AM VERY INTERESTED IN. I HAVE
TWO VERY QUICK QUESTIONS. ONE,
IS OUR HEALTH ONE THEME THAT I
HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
OVER THE YEARS, WILL THAT REMAI
IN THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT?
>> YES. UNLESS THE DEPUTY MAYOR
KNOWS SOMETHING I DON'T. I LOV
THAT TEAM, FULLY SUPPORT THEM,
THINK WE NEED MORE OF THAT TEAM
I HAVE GOTTEN AN ARRAY OF
RESPONSE FROM THE DATA, THE
NEXUS OF HEALTH CRISIS RIGHT
NOW, OVERDOSE IS ASTRONOMICAL.
SO, YES.
>> ABSOLUTELY STAYS IN THE FIR
DEPARTMENT.
>> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR
THIS OVERVIEW, AND FOR TEEING
UP THESE COMMENTS. I KNOW WE
SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING
ABOUT OPTION C, AND LOOK FORWAR
TO HEARING MORE ABOUT THE
FUNCTIONS, AS YOU NOTED IN YOUR
RESPONSE. MR. SMITH, IF YOU
HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
TO SEND, PLEASE SEND THAT OVER,
THAT MIGHT FLUSH OUT OPTION BE
LITTLE BIT MORE. I WILL JUST
CONCLUDE THIS SESSION WITH A
NEED THAT COMES FROM NATIONAL
PUBLIC RADIO, RELIEF IN AUGUST
OF THIS YEAR. THE HEADLINE IS,
HOW ARE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
RETHINKING 911 CALL RESPONSES?
SOME MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS
THINK POLICE SHOULD NOT BE
INVOLVED AT ALL. FOR WOODS, TH
HEAD OF THE MASSACHUSETTS
CHAMBER -- NATIONAL ASSOCIATIO
OF SOCIAL WORKERS SAYS THAT
CIVILIAN ONLY RESPONSE TEAMS,
SHOWING THAT THOSE ALTERNATE
RESPONSES LOWER COSTS, AND
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRAGIC
OUTCOMES. SHE SAYS, QUOTE, TOO
MUCH OF OUR ATTENTION IS
FOCUSED ON APRIL RESPONSE MODEL
I THINK WE SHOULD BE THINKING
ABOUT HOW WE CAN PROMOTE
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES, WHERE
PEOPLE ARE IN A MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS. THERE IS A LOT MORE I
THAT INTENSIVE DISCUSSION THAT
WAS HELD IN AUGUST 14th, 2023,
FROM THE NPR APPOINTMENT. I
LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT A
EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO THE
RESPONSE MODEL THAT WE ARE
SENDING. YOU ARE RIGHT, IT DOE
SAVE MONEY, AND IT SAVES LIVES,
AND IT SAVES TIME, IN TERMS OF
WHO IS RESPONDING AND HOW
QUICKLY WE CAN GET OUT THERE
WITH CARE. WE WILL ADJOURN AND
COME BACK AT 2:00 P.M. WE WILL
GO INTO RECESS, AND WE WILL
RECONVENE AT 2:00 P.M. FOR THOS
PEOPLE JOINING US, THERE ARE NO
OBJECTIONS, OUR MEETING IS IN
RECESS. THANK YOU.