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&gt;&gt;&gt; WE ARE RECORDING. &gt;&gt; THANK
YOU.

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GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

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THE DECEMBER 9, 2022 REGULARLY
SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE
NEIGHBORHOODS,

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EDUCATION, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND
CULTURE COMMITTEE WILL COME

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TO ORDER.

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WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.

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&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.

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&gt;&gt; PRESENT. &gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.

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&gt;&gt; PRESENT.

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&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.

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&gt;&gt; PRESENT.

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&gt;&gt; VICE CHAIR SAWANT.

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CHAIR MORALES.

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&gt;&gt; PRESENT. &gt;&gt; FOR PRESENT.

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&gt;&gt; IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION,
TODAY'S

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AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED.

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HEARING NO OBJECTION, TODAY'S
AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

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GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. WE HAVE
SEVERAL

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THINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.

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WE WILL BE HEARING TWO
APPOINTMENTS FOR THE LGBTQ
COMMISSION.

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WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS FOR THE
LANDMARK DISTRICT BOARD

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BALLARD AVENUE, LANDMARK
DISTRICT BOARD.

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WE WILL BE HEARING COUNCIL BILL
130312 REGARDING THE

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FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING AND
WE WILL HAVE A HEARING

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AND BRIEFING ON COUNCIL BILL
120456, WHICH IS

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AMENDING CERTAIN PROCEDURES FOR
HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW.

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WE WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THAT
TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE

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A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WITH THAT I
AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN

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PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL OPEN THE
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT

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PERIOD. THIS WILL BE VIRTUAL AND
HYBRID. JUST BECAUSE

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WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING
TODAY, THIS PUBLIC COMMENT

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PERIOD IS FOR AGENDA ITEMS ONE
THROUGH FIVE.

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THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR
THE PUBLIC HEARING,

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COUNCIL BILL 120456, WILL BE
HELD PRIOR TO THAT DISCUSSION

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FOR AGENDA ITEM SIX.

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IF YOU ARE HERE TO COMMENT ON
AGENDA ITEM SIX, PLEASE WAIT
UNTIL

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WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE
AGENDA.

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SO I AM ASKING EVERYONE TO
PLEASE BE PATIENT AS WE OPERATE
THIS HYBRID

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SYSTEM. IT DOES REMAIN OUR
STRONG INTENT TO HAVE

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PUBLIC COMMENT DURING MEETINGS.
HOWEVER,

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WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO MODIFY
THE PUBLIC

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COMMENT PERIODS AT ANY POINT IF
WE DEEM THE SYSTEM IS BEING

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ABUSED OR IS UNSUITABLE TO ALLOW
MEETINGS TO CONTINUE. SO,

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WE HAVE, LET ME SEE. I'M SORRY.
I HAVE MY

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SHEET SOMEWHERE.

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A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNED UP
ELECTRONICALLY. VIRTUALLY.

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SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH THEM AND
THEN WE WILL HAVE FOLKS

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WHO ARE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS.
I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYBODY TWO

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MINUTES AND I THOUGHT WE HAD A
GROUP SIGNED UP,

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IS THAT NO LONGER THE CASE?
EVERYBODY IS SIGNED UP
INDIVIDUALLY. OKAY.

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SO WE ARE GOING TO START WITH
THE PEOPLE SIGNED UP ONLINE.

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I WILL CALL EACH SPEAKER.

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YOU WILL HAVE TO MINUTES. WHEN I
CALL YOUR NAME IF

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YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE
AND HIT STAR 6, SO WE CAN

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HEAR YOU.

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YOU WILL HEAR A TIME AT 10
SECONDS, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE 10

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SECONDS LEFT TO WRAP UP YOUR
COMMENTS AND THEN WE

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WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
OKAY, SO

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WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE
FOLKS WHO ARE ONLINE, BECAUSE WE
ONLY HAVE

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A FEW OF THEM.

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WE WILL START WITH HOWARD GAIL.
HOWARD, PLEASE GO AHEAD

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AND START BY PRESSING STAR SIX.

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&gt;&gt; GOOD MORNING, HOWARD GAIL
--THIS

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MORNING YOU WILL BE MAKING
APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMISSION

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YOU OVERSEE. WHEN YOU DO THIS,
IT IS

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IMPORTANT THAT YOU MAKE CLEAR TO
THESE VOLUNTEERS WHETHER THEIR
EXPECTED ROLE IS TO

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MAKE INDEPENDENT DECISIONS OR,
INSTEAD, TO BEND TO THE WILL

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OF THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. ON
APRIL 7, THE SEATTLE HUMAN
RIGHTS

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COMMISSION VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY
TO TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE

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IN INFORMING THE FEDERAL COURT
OF THE CONTINUING POLICE ABUSES
AND FAILURES

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OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY IN
SEATTLE. LESS THAN 24 HOURS
AFTER

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THIS VOTE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE SUCCESSFULLY

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THREATENED AND BULLIED THE HUMAN
RIGHTS COMMISSION INTO INACTION
AND

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SILENCE AS DOCUMENTED BY CAROLYN
VICK ON APRIL 29 AND MAY 12. THE
ARTICLES

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DETAIL BE INAPPROPRIATE AND
ILLEGAL NATURE OF

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THE CITY'S ACTIONS AND COMPLETE
SILENCE FROM THE COUNCIL

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AND THE MAYOR. THEN ON SEPTEMBER
29, COUNCILMEMBERS

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MORALES AND HERBOLD HELD A
NONPUBLIC MEETING WITH HUMAN
RIGHTS COMMISSIONERS

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ALONG WITH

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THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THEIR
COCHAIR, REVEREND WALDEN. THE
HUMAN

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RIGHTS COMMISSION REPORTED THAT

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COUNCILMEMBERS AND REVEREND
WALDEN, WHO MET THE NIGHT BEFORE
TO DISCUSS

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THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION,
PROCEEDED TO CHASTISE, INSULT,
AND

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BULLY THE HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSIONERS.

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ON OCTOBER 14, FOR HIGHLY ACTIVE

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COMMISSIONERS AND COCHAIRS
RESIGNED AS A DIRECT RESULT OF
THE

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CITY'S HOSTILITY AND THREATS
DIRECTED AT THEIR ATTEMPT

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TO TAKE ACTION ON A FUNDAMENTAL
HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.

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ALONG WITH THREE OTHER
COMMISSIONERS WHO RESIGNED
EARLIER, THIS MARKS AROUND

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HALF OF THE COMMISSION RESIGNING
OVER THE

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LAST EIGHT MONTHS. THE FAILURE
OF COUNCILMEMBERS EARLY IN THE
YEAR TO SUPPORT

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THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION IS
SHAMEFUL, BUT THE

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LATTER PARTICIPATION OF
COUNCILMEMBERS MORALES AND
HERBOLD TO SUPPRESS THE

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COMMISSION TRULY SHOCK THE
CONSCIENCE. THE HUMAN

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RIGHTS COMMISSION IS A CHARADE
IF THEY'RE WELL CONSIDERED

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AND DEBATED DECISIONS MADE IN A
PUBLIC AND

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DEMOCRATIC MATTER ARE SIMPLY
OVERRULED BY POLITICIANS AND
BUREAUCRATS

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IN THE MOST NONTRANSPARENT,
NONPUBLIC AND UNDEMOCRATIC
MATTER. THANK YOU.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

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I HAVE EUGENE YES SIGNED

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UP NEXT. YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO
SPEAK TO TWO BILLS.

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FOR COUNCIL BILL

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--PLEASE GO AHEAD BY PUSHING
STAR SIX.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR
MORALES.

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GOOD MORNING.

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THIS IS THE DIRECTOR OF
PRESERVATION SERVICES AT
HISTORIC SEATTLE.

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I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON
COUNCIL BILL

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120312 RELATING TO HISTORIC
PRESERVATION OF THE

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SEATTLE-FIRST NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING.

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I SUBMITTED A LETTER ON BEHALF
OF THE

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HISTORICAL SOCIETY ASKING YOU TO
RECOMMEND ADOPTING CONTROLS AND

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INCENTIVES FOR THE NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING IN UPTOWN

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AND MOVE IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE CENTRAL

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STAFF'S THOROUGH MEMO ON THIS
ISSUE. THE

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BANK BUILDING, NOW OWNED BY
WALGREENS, WAS DESIGNATED BY THE
LANDMARK BOARD

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IN 2006.

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A STRONG STATEMENT ON ITS
SIGNIFICANCE AND

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LANDMARK WORTHINESS.

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THE BOARD APPROVED IT IN 2021.
THERE IS ACTUALLY NO CONTROVERSY

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HERE, WHICH IS GREAT.

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AS A LANDMARK IN THE UPTOWN
NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS

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ALSO ELIGIBLE TO TRANSFER
DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

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THIS MEANS THE OWNER WILL BE
ABLE TO SELL THE

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RIGHTS AND USE THE MONEY TO
MAINTAIN THE LANDMARK BUILDING
AND THE DEVELOPER

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WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY IN UPTOWN
THE QUALIFIES

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CAN PURCHASE TDR'S TO BENEFIT
THE HOUSING PROJECT

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BY INCREASING ADDITIONAL UNITS.
THIS IS A WIN-WIN

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FOR PRESERVATION AND HOUSING. IT
IS BOTH AND, NOT EITHER/OR.

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THAT IS A SOUND DECISION THAT
RESPECTS THE LANDMARK
DESIGNATION

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PROCESS AND WOULD BE CONSISTENT
WITH OTHER

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RECENTLY APPROVED CONTROLS.
AMENDING OR REJECTING

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CONTROLS COULD BE VIEWED AS
ARBITRARY AND

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CAPRICIOUS, SINCE THE REASONING
FOR SUCH A

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DECISION IS NOT DOCUMENTED AND
JUSTIFIED.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF
THIS LANDMARK AND

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OTHERS IN SEATTLE. HISTORIC
PRESERVATION IS A PUBLIC

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BENEFIT, IN AND OF ITSELF. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. WE HAVE A FEW
OTHER FOLKS SIGNED UP, BUT IT
LOOKS LIKE

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EVERYBODY IS HERE FOR THE PUBLIC
HEARING.

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EXCEPT FOR SUSAN WILLIAMS.

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SUSAN WILLIAMS, ARE YOU WITH US?
I SHOW YOU

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AS NOT PRESENT. SUSAN WILLIAMS.
OKAY.

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EVERYBODY THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP
HERE --

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THERE ARE ONLY FOUR PEOPLE
SIGNED UP FOR IN PERSON?

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OKAY, AND EVERYBODY HERE IS
SIGNED UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING
AS WELL,

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SO IN THAT CASE, IS THAT
CORRECT? YES,

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OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON
THEN.

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I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD AND WE WILL

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MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM. SO,
WILL YOU PLEASE READ ITEM ONE
AND

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TWO INTO THE RECORD.

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I DON'T HAVE YOU SIGNED UP.

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JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE. WE ARE
TRYING TO CLARIFY

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WHAT IS HAPPENING.

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&gt;&gt; I SIGNED IN, TOO.

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&gt;&gt; OKAY, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND PUT
TWO MINUTES ON THE CLOCK.

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THANK YOU.

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&gt;&gt; CRIMINAL, IT'S EXACTLY WHO
YOU ARE

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AND I TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO YOU
ARE POINT

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FOUR --WHO YOU APPOINT FOR CIVIL
RIGHTS.

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I COME TO THIS MEETING EVERY DAY
AND EVERY DAY I

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ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION.

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WHY DON'T YOU SHOW PEOPLE'S
FACES LIKE YOU DID BEFORE,

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FOR 25 YEARS? THIS EXACTLY IS A
UNIQUE SITUATION. YOU

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ARE ONLY ONE IN AMERICA WHO
DON'T DO THIS.

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HUNDRED PEOPLE COME AND
EVERYBODY QUIET.

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WHY ARE YOU SO QUIET, YOU

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IDIOT? YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THEY
ARE CRIMINAL. THEY HAVE BROKEN
LAW.

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THEY DO THIS FOR SEVEN MONTHS,
WHY?

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SO WHEN THEY DON'T SEE PEOPLE
HERE --

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YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? SO YOU
CAN ELECT THEM AGAIN, BECAUSE

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THEY DON'T KNOW. THEY ARE
CRIMINAL.

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BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT.

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IDIOT AND THEY ARE VERY QUIET.

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WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

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SO, I SPEAK RIGHT NOW WITH THESE
PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.

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30, 40. YOU HAVE ONE HERE WHO
WILL EXPLAIN TO THEM.

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NOBODY, EVERYBODY QUIET, WHY?
BECAUSE YOU ARE BORN LIKE

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A SLAVE AND YOU WILL DIE LIKE A
SLAVE.

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SORRY. SO STAND UP, AMERICA.

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STAND UP, FREAKING IDIOTS OF
100,000 PEOPLE. BRING THIS

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COUNTRY OUT.

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&gt;&gt; OKAY, DEVON, WILL YOU READ
ITEMS ONE AND TWO TO THE

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RECORD, PLEASE?

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&gt;&gt; AGENDA ITEMS ONE AND TWO,
APPOINTMENT 02425 AND

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APPOINTMENT 02426
--REAPPOINTMENT OF

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NATHANIEL HIGBY AND APPOINTMENT
OF BRETT PEPOWSKI AS MEMBERS OF
SEATTLE'S

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LGBTQ COMMISSION FOR TERMS

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TO APRIL 30, 2024, FOR BRIEFING,
DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE VOTE.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, WE HAVE JANET
STAFFORD HERE FROM THE OFFICE
FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.

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JANET, IF YOU WILL COME ON AND
JOIN US TO

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TELL US ABOUT THESE
APPOINTMENTS.

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&gt;&gt; ABSOLUTELY.

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GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL,
COUNCILMEMBERS.

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TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A
BIT ON OUR REAPPOINTMENTS

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FOR THE LGBTQ COMMISSION. I
WOULD LIKE TO START OUT

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BY SHARING SOME OF THE WORK THAT
THEY HAVE DONE THIS YEAR.

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SOME OF THEIR EVENT
COLLABORATIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL
AND THE MAYOR'S

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OFFICE HAS INCLUDED THE ANNUAL
PRIDE FLAG

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RAISING EVENT AT CITY HALL AND
OTHER INVOLVEMENTS

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IN PRIDE EVENTS THIS YEAR.

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THEY HAVE CONNECTED AND HAVE
GOTTEN TO KNOW THE NEW

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MAYOR HARRELL STAFF
ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS
MEETING MEMBERS OF OUR

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COUNCIL AND SHARING THEIR WORK
PLAN AND PRIORITIES FOR

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THIS YEAR. TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO
RECOMMEND AND

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SHARE BACKGROUND ON NATE HIGBEE
AND BRETT PEPOWSKI.

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I WILL SHARE A LITTLE BACKGROUND
ON NATE.

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SINCE 2019, NATE HAS BEEN
SERVING AS A COMMISSIONER FOR

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THE SEATTLE LGBTQ COMMISSION.

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NATE STARTED WITH THE COMMISSION
AS AN ENGAGED COMMISSIONER AND
AFTER

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THAT, CONTINUED TO SERVE
TWO-YEAR TERMS

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AS A REGULAR COMMISSIONER. HE
GRADUATED

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WITH A BACHELORS DEGREE IN
SOCIOLOGY

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AND WORKS AT VIRGINIA MASON,
WHERE HE CONTINUES

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TO SUPPORT AND BE AN ACTIVE
MEMBER OF

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THE LGBTQ STAFF COMMITTEE. HE
HAS SPENT TIME ADVOCATING

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FOR BOTH LGBTQ RIGHTS AND
DISABILITY RIGHTS.

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HE IS CURRENTLY THE COCHAIR OF
THE SOCIAL

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MEDIA AND ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE,
AS WELL

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AS THE COCHAIR OF THE LGBTQ
COMMISSION.

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THE COMMISSION DOES SUPPORT HIS
REAPPOINTMENT AND

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LOOKS FORWARD TO HAVING HIS
CONTINUED LEADERSHIP

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THIS NEXT YEAR.

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SHALL I CONTINUE WITH BRETT

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PEPOWSKI?

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&gt;&gt; YES, PLEASE. &gt;&gt; GREAT.

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JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON
BRETT PEPOWSKI.

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HE WORKS AS A DATA ANALYST FOR
HOUSING AND CLINICAL SERVICES
NONPROFIT.

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VOLUNTEERS FOR OVERNIGHT CAMPS
FOR YOUTH

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OF NONTRADITIONAL FAMILIES AND
VOLUNTEERS BACKSTAGE FOR THE
LOCAL

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GAY SYMPHONIC BAND. HE JOINED
THE COMMISSION IN 2021 AND

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COCHAIRS THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND
ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE

00:15:18.083 --> 00:15:20.019
WITH NATE.

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BRETT HAS DONE MUCH OF THE WORK
THIS YEAR IN THE PRESENCE THE

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COMMISSION HAS HAD.

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BRETT HAS ALSO LED MUCH OF THE
EFFORTS IN PROVIDING RECENT
BUDGET

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RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.
AS A COMMISSIONER,

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BRETT DOES HOPE TO CONTINUE TO
RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF ISSUES

00:15:39.071 --> 00:15:45.010
AND GOVERNMENT ACTION AFFECTING
THE QUEER COMMUNITY AND TO
INCREASE LOCAL

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ACCESS TO QUALITY, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, AND HEALTHCARE.

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THE COMMISSION WELCOMES THIS
REAPPOINTMENT

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AND BRETT'S CONTINUED WORK.
THANK YOU.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. AND BRETT IS NOT
HERE, RIGHT? OKAY, I

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JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

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I THINK IT IS LISTED ON THE
AGENDA AND IN THE PAPERWORK

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THAT THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT AND
NOT A

00:16:16.075 --> 00:16:21.013
REAPPOINTMENT FOR BRETT, CAN YOU
CLARIFY, PLEASE?

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&gt;&gt; BRETT IS A REAPPOINTMENT.
THEY ARE

00:16:23.248 --> 00:16:24.350
BOTH REAPPOINTMENTS.

00:16:24.416 --> 00:16:29.021
&gt;&gt; TERRIFIC.

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OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GLAD TO KNOW THEY ARE BOTH
INTERESTED

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IN CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE
SERVICE.

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I DID MEET WITH SOME OF THE
LGBTQ COMMISSIONERS,

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I THINK IT WAS RIGHT AFTER
BUDGET.

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IT IS ALL SORT OF A BLUR, BUT I
KNOW THEY

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WILL BE COMING BEFORE THIS
COMMITTEE AND THE

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NEW YEAR TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON
THE WORK PLAN

00:16:48.073 --> 00:16:51.009
AND TALK TO US ABOUT THINGS THEY
WOULD LIKE TO SEE. COLLEAGUES,
ANY

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QUESTIONS FOR JANET ABOUT THE
REAPPOINTMENTS? GREAT. OKAY, IN

00:16:54.079 --> 00:17:00.018
THAT CASE I AM GOING TO MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE APPROVE
APPOINTMENTS

00:17:00.085 --> 00:17:06.992
--RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
APPOINTMENTS -- 2425 AND 2426.
IS THERE

00:17:07.059 --> 00:17:08.260
A SECOND?

00:17:08.327 --> 00:17:15.000
&gt;&gt; SECOND.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED. WILL

00:17:16.869 --> 00:17:17.870
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

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&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.

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&gt;&gt; YES. &gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.

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&gt;&gt; YES. &gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.

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&gt;&gt; AYE. &gt;&gt; CHAIR MORALES. &gt;&gt;
YES.

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&gt;&gt; FOUR IN FAVOR. &gt;&gt; THE MOTION
CARRIES AND THE APPOINTMENTS
WILL BE SENT

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TO THE JANUARY 3, 2023 CITY
COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU

00:17:39.057 --> 00:17:44.997
VERY MUCH, JANET. GOOD TO SEE
YOU AGAIN.

00:17:45.063 --> 00:17:48.000
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. &gt;&gt; WILL YOU PLEASE
READ ITEMS THREE AND FOUR INTO
THE RECORD.

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&gt;&gt; AGENDA ITEMS THREE AND FOUR,
APPOINTMENT 2420 AND APPOINTMENT
2421, APPOINTMENT OF

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MIRIAM HINDEN AS MEMBER, BALLARD
AVENUE DISTRICT BOARD FOR

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A TERM TO JUNE 30, 2024, AND
APPOINTMENT OF ANTHONY R.
SALAZAR

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AS MEMBER,

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BALLARD AVENUE LANDMARK DISTRICT
BOARD, FOR A TERM

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TO JUNE 30, 2023, FOR DISCUSSION
AND A POSSIBLE VOTE.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU AND I'M GOING TO
WELCOME MINH CHAU LE FROM THE
DEPARTMENT

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OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO JOIN US TO
TALK ABOUT THESE

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APPOINTMENTS. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
CHAIRPERSON MORALES

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AND ALL COUNCIL

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COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY. DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS

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IS GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO BRING BEFORE YOU

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TWO CURRENT APPOINTEES TO THE
BALLARD AVENUE LANDMARK BOARD

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FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IF IT IS
OKAY

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WITH YOU, CHAIR, MAY I PROVIDE A
BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE

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BALLARD AVENUE LANDMARK DISTRICT
AND ITS WORK AND THEN
INDIVIDUALLY DESCRIBE

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THE TWO APPOINTEES IN THE ORDER
PRESENTED?

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&gt;&gt; THAT SOUNDS GREAT, THANK YOU.

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&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. THE BALLARD AVENUE
LANDMARK DISTRICT BOARD WAS
ESTABLISHED

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IN 1976. ITS WORK IS TO PROVIDE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE
BALLARD

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AVENUE LANDMARK DISTRICT, WHICH
IS PROTECTED BY LOCAL

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CITY ORDINANCE AND ALSO HAS
RECOGNITION AT THE NATIONAL
LEVEL.

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THE NATIONAL HISTORIC -- EXCUSE
ME,

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THE NATIONAL REGISTER FOR
HISTORIC PLACES. THE PRIMARY
FUNCTION OF

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THE BOARD IS TO REVIEW AND
APPROVE PROPOSALS

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FOR PHYSICAL ALTERATIONS VISIBLE
TO THE PUBLIC

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WITHIN THE DISTRICT, WITHIN THE
DISTRICT THAT AMOUNTS TO WORK

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IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE ONE
PARK SPACE AND BUILDING
EXTERIORS.

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THE BOARD AS A WHOLE IS SEVEN
MEMBERS, FIVE OF WHOM ARE
ELECTED

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VIA AN ANNUAL COMMUNITY ELECTION
PROCESS AND TWO

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OF WHOM ARE APPOINTED BY

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THE MAYOR AND CONFIRMED BY
COUNCIL, AS WE ARE DOING TODAY.
EACH MEMBER

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SERVES TWO-YEAR TERMS AND
COLLECTIVELY THE MAKEUP OF

00:20:01.066 --> 00:20:04.002
THE BOARD IS QUITE DYNAMIC.

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IT IS TO PROPERTY OWNERS. TO
PROPERTY OWNERS

00:20:05.070 --> 00:20:11.944
OR BUSINESS PERSONS. ONE
RESIDENT AND FINALLY,

00:20:12.010 --> 00:20:13.946
THOSE WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY.
ONE HISTORIAN AND ONE

00:20:14.012 --> 00:20:18.951
ARCHITECT. THE LAST THING I WILL
SAY ABOUT THE BOARD, THE SECOND
TO LAST

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THING, IS IT IS ADVISORY TO

00:20:22.988 --> 00:20:26.925
THE DIRECTOR. MAKES
RECOMMENDATIONS SUBJECT TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
DIRECTORATE

00:20:26.992 --> 00:20:28.927
OF APPROVAL AND THE LAST THING
IS THIS

00:20:28.994 --> 00:20:33.932
YEAR THE BOARD ENTHUSIASTICALLY
EMBRACES SOME CURRENT, VERY
INTERESTING WORK

00:20:33.999 --> 00:20:36.935
RELATED TO PROVIDING ASSESSMENT
AND FEEDBACK

00:20:37.002 --> 00:20:40.939
AND GUIDANCE, AS THE

00:20:41.006 --> 00:20:45.944
CITY MOVES FORWARD OUT OF THE
PANDEMIC INTO A POST PANDEMIC
PHASE, WITH

00:20:46.011 --> 00:20:48.947
THE VARIOUS SUCCESSFUL CAFE
PROGRAMMING THAT HAS

00:20:49.014 --> 00:20:51.950
APPEARED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS ON HISTORIC

00:20:52.017 --> 00:20:53.952
BALLARD AVENUE.

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AND THAT CONCLUDES MY BRIEF
SUMMARY OF THE BOARD AND

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NOW I WILL PROCEED WITH A BRIEF
DESCRIPTION OF EACH OF THE
CANDIDATES IN THE ORDER

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THEY WERE PROVIDED. SO FIRST WE
HAVE MIRIAM HINDEN FOR POSITION

00:21:03.996 --> 00:21:10.936
NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE
ARCHITECT.

00:21:11.003 --> 00:21:14.940
MIRIAM BRINGS TWO DECADES, A
BACKGROUND AS A PRACTICING
LICENSED ARCHITECT.

00:21:15.007 --> 00:21:19.945
HAS SERVED IN A DESIGN CAPACITY
IN MAJOR PROJECTS

00:21:20.012 --> 00:21:26.952
IN ALL OF SEATTLE'S HISTORIC
DISTRICTS, FOR WHICH THERE IS
SIGNIFICANT BUILDING

00:21:27.019 --> 00:21:29.921
AND DENSITY, SUCH AS COLUMBIA
CITY, INTERNATIONAL SPECIAL
REVIEW DISTRICT,

00:21:29.988 --> 00:21:33.925
PIONEER SQUARE PRESERVATION
DISTRICT, AND THE BALLARD AVENUE

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LANDMARK DISTRICT. MIRIAM HAS
ALSO SERVED

00:21:39.998 --> 00:21:41.933
AS A BOARD MEMBER IN THE PAST ON
THE PRESERVATION BOARD,

00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.937
WHICH LIKE THE BALLARD AVENUE
BOARD IS

00:21:46.004 --> 00:21:48.940
A DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
ADMINISTERED PRESERVATION

00:21:49.007 --> 00:21:51.943
BOARD, WHICH IS ADVISORY TO THE
DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. MIRIAM HAS
EXPERIENCE

00:21:52.010 --> 00:21:55.947
IN ADAPTIVE REUSE,

00:21:56.014 --> 00:22:00.952
AS WELL AS REHABILITATION AND
THESE ARE THE PARTICULAR
PRESERVATION PRACTICES

00:22:01.019 --> 00:22:03.922
THAT ARE FAVORED WITHIN SEATTLE,
UNDER THE

00:22:03.989 --> 00:22:06.925
ORDINANCE.

00:22:06.992 --> 00:22:10.929
FINALLY, MIRIAM IS A RESIDENT

00:22:10.996 --> 00:22:12.931
OF THE GREATER BALLARD
COMMUNITY.

00:22:12.998 --> 00:22:15.934
WITH THAT I WILL PROCEED TO THE
SECOND CANDIDATE, ANTHONY
SALAZAR,

00:22:16.001 --> 00:22:18.937
FOR POSITION NUMBER ONE, THE
COMMUNITY HISTORIAN POSITION.

00:22:19.004 --> 00:22:25.944
ANTHONY COMES FROM AN EXTENSIVE
CAREER AT

00:22:26.011 --> 00:22:27.946
THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IN
ACADEMIA, WHERE HE FOCUSED ON
HISTORY, PARTICULARLY

00:22:28.013 --> 00:22:35.954
SOCIAL AND URBAN HISTORY. HE IS
A LONG TERM

00:22:36.021 --> 00:22:39.925
MEMBER AND OFFICER OF THE
COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND IS A
BALLARD

00:22:39.991 --> 00:22:42.928
RESIDENT, AS WELL.

00:22:42.994 --> 00:22:48.934
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE

00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:50.936
TWO CANDIDATES TO THE LANDMARK
DISTRICT BOARD.

00:22:51.002 --> 00:22:54.940
&gt;&gt; TERRIFIC, THANK YOU

00:22:55.006 --> 00:22:57.943
VERY MUCH. I DO SEE MIRIAM AND
ANTHONY HERE. IF EITHER

00:22:58.009 --> 00:23:00.946
OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, I
AM HAPPY TO GIVE

00:23:01.012 --> 00:23:04.549
YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A
LITTLE BIT.

00:23:04.616 --> 00:23:08.086
I DON'T SEE --OH, MIRIAM, THERE
YOU ARE.

00:23:08.153 --> 00:23:12.924
&gt;&gt; GOOD MORNING, I AM MIRIAM
HINDEN.

00:23:12.991 --> 00:23:15.927
&gt;&gt; PLEASE GO AHEAD.

00:23:15.994 --> 00:23:20.932
&gt;&gt; SO I AM AN ARCHITECT.

00:23:20.999 --> 00:23:23.935
AND PRINCIPAL. WE ARE LOCATED IN
GREEN ARE SQUARE AND I

00:23:24.002 --> 00:23:27.939
HAVE A BROAD RANGE OF EXPERIENCE
IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION,
REHABILITATION AND CONSTRUCTION

00:23:28.006 --> 00:23:33.945
PROJECTS INCLUDING IN THE
BALLARD PRESERVATION DISTRICT

00:23:34.012 --> 00:23:39.951
AND ALSO IN PIONEER SQUARE.

00:23:40.018 --> 00:23:42.954
I AM EXCITED TO BE ON THIS BOARD
AND HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY. I
THINK

00:23:43.021 --> 00:23:45.924
IT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD
EXPERIENCE AND A GREAT

00:23:45.991 --> 00:23:48.160
WAY TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS
AND BUSINESS OWNERS.

00:23:48.226 --> 00:23:49.127
THANK YOU.

00:23:49.194 --> 00:23:53.932
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE. ANTHONY,

00:23:53.999 --> 00:23:57.936
DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
HI, GOOD MORNING.

00:23:58.003 --> 00:24:01.940
I DID NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE
HISTORY

00:24:02.007 --> 00:24:06.545
OF BASEBALL KNOWLEDGE, SO I AM
VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU HERE
WITH US,

00:24:06.611 --> 00:24:07.379
THANK YOU.

00:24:07.445 --> 00:24:10.015
&gt;&gt; I AM A MEMBER OF THE SID FIRM

00:24:10.081 --> 00:24:13.018
DAY &gt;&gt;

00:24:13.084 --> 00:24:15.554
ANTHONY, I'M SORRY, IT IS REALLY
HARD TO HEAR YOU.

00:24:15.620 --> 00:24:20.992
&gt;&gt; I'M SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME
OKAY? THERE WE GO. YES MA'AM,

00:24:21.059 --> 00:24:24.996
I AM A MEMBER OF THE SOCIETY FOR
AMERICAN BASEBALL RESEARCH

00:24:25.063 --> 00:24:30.001
AND I CHAIR ITS LATINO BASEBALL
COMMITTEE AS WELL AND I HAVE
DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH

00:24:30.068 --> 00:24:33.004
IN BASEBALL AS WELL AND I AM
ALSO A BEER HISTORIAN. SO I

00:24:33.071 --> 00:24:37.008
HAVE BEEN DOING WORK WITH THE
BALLARD BREWERY DISTRICT AND

00:24:37.075 --> 00:24:40.011
COALITION AS WELL.

00:24:40.078 --> 00:24:46.017
IT IS JUST AN INCREDIBLE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE THIS SERVICE

00:24:46.084 --> 00:24:49.020
WITH THE BALLARD LANDMARK
DISTRICT. I'VE GOT

00:24:49.087 --> 00:24:51.990
A BACKGROUND IN URBAN HISTORY
FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF

00:24:52.057 --> 00:24:54.993
CALIFORNIA SANTA BARBARA AND THE
UNIVERSITY OF OREGON, WHERE

00:24:55.060 --> 00:24:57.996
I WAS ABLE TO STUDY THE
EVOLUTION OF

00:24:58.063 --> 00:25:00.999
OUR GREAT AMERICAN CITIES.

00:25:01.066 --> 00:25:03.001
GROWING UP IN SAN FRANCISCO
PROVIDED ME THAT

00:25:03.068 --> 00:25:04.002
CURIOSITY AND WONDER OF HOW
CITIES WORK AND HOW SAN
FRANCISCANS CONTRIBUTED

00:25:04.069 --> 00:25:12.010
TO THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY. I
SEE A LOT OF THESE SIMILARITIES

00:25:12.077 --> 00:25:13.011
WITH SEATTLE AND BALLARD IN
PARTICULAR.

00:25:13.078 --> 00:25:19.017
BALLARD AVENUE, AS YOU KNOW, IS
A VERY CHARMING AREA. I WOULD
LIKE

00:25:19.084 --> 00:25:22.020
TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH HER
DISTRICT AND WORK

00:25:22.087 --> 00:25:24.990
WITH OTHERS IN MAINTAINING THAT
CHARM AND

00:25:25.056 --> 00:25:27.993
TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE
EDUCATIONAL AND ADVOCATING FOR

00:25:28.059 --> 00:25:29.861
HISTORY IN THAT AREA.

00:25:29.928 --> 00:25:32.964
THERE IS A LOT TO BE OFFERED
HERE.

00:25:33.031 --> 00:25:40.005
AS A CHICANO, STUDYING

00:25:40.071 --> 00:25:43.008
IN DDI SPACES, THERE IS A LOT OF
WORK TO BE DONE THERE AS WELL

00:25:43.074 --> 00:25:48.013
AND I APPRECIATE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THIS

00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.017
PLATFORM AND WORKING WITH THE
DISTRICT AND THE CITY, AS WELL
AS,

00:25:52.083 --> 00:25:54.019
LATER ON, IF WE CAN FIND WAYS TO
COLLABORATE WITH

00:25:54.085 --> 00:25:57.989
THE BALLARD HISTORICAL SOCIETY,
THE BALLARD ALLIANCE.

00:25:58.056 --> 00:26:01.993
I THINK IT IS A WIN-WIN FOR ALL
OF US IN BALLARD. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.

00:26:02.060 --> 00:26:05.063
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH FOR
BEING HERE. COLLEAGUES, ARE
THERE

00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:07.999
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR
THE APPOINTEES? YES,
COUNCILMEMBER

00:26:08.066 --> 00:26:11.002
STRAUSS.

00:26:11.069 --> 00:26:18.009
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND THANK
YOU, MINH CHAU LE, IT

00:26:18.076 --> 00:26:20.011
IS ALWAYS WONDERFUL TO SEE
COLLEAGUES.

00:26:20.078 --> 00:26:22.013
YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW I HAVE
BEEN WORKING WITH THE BALLARD
DISTRICT,

00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:26.017
BALLARD LANDMARK DISTRICT,
REGARDING STREET

00:26:26.084 --> 00:26:30.989
CAFES AND OUTDOOR DINING TO
BRING THIS UP TO BE ABLE

00:26:31.056 --> 00:26:37.996
TO MEET HISTORIC DISTRICT
GUIDELINES. SO, MIRIAM, READING
WHAT YOU WORKED ON,

00:26:38.063 --> 00:26:40.999
I THINK THIS WILL BE AN AMAZING
CONNECTION. AND ANTHONY, I

00:26:41.066 --> 00:26:46.004
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SO IMPRESSED
WITH YOUR LEVEL OF HISTORY OF
AIRSPACE,

00:26:46.071 --> 00:26:47.005
OF OUR CITY, OF OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.

00:26:47.072 --> 00:26:53.011
AND YOUR WORK

00:26:53.078 --> 00:26:56.014
IN THE DISTRICT ALREADY. I GUESS
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

00:26:56.081 --> 00:26:59.017
YOU, SINCE YOUR RESUMES ARE
ALWAYS BLOWING ME AWAY. JUST TO

00:26:59.084 --> 00:27:02.020
SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REALLY
IMPORTANT WORK COMING

00:27:02.087 --> 00:27:05.056
UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS,
TO REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW

00:27:05.123 --> 00:27:07.993
WE MAKE OUR OUTDOOR DINING
SPACES MEET HISTORIC

00:27:08.059 --> 00:27:11.997
DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND

00:27:12.063 --> 00:27:16.001
THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AT THE
LAST HISTORIC DISTRICT MEETING,
IT BECAME

00:27:16.067 --> 00:27:21.006
VERY CLEAR. WE HAVE THREE
BUILDINGS UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN
HALF A

00:27:21.072 --> 00:27:29.014
BLOCK OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT
THAT WILL BE ABOUT 200 NEW
UNITS. ON TOP

00:27:29.080 --> 00:27:33.018
OF THE DENSITY WE ALREADY HAVE.
THIS

00:27:33.084 --> 00:27:35.020
IS CHANGING HOW THE HISTORIC
DISTRICT OPERATES AND WHAT OUR
NEEDS ARE AND

00:27:35.086 --> 00:27:37.989
IT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM 1976,
NEARLY 50

00:27:38.056 --> 00:27:42.994
YEARS AGO WHEN THE BOEING 747
WAS FIRST ROLLED OUT

00:27:43.061 --> 00:27:47.799
ON THE PRODUCTION LINES. SO HERE
WE ARE IN THIS NEW WORLD AND I
AM JUST SO

00:27:47.866 --> 00:27:49.234
VERY EXCITED FOR YOU.

00:27:49.300 --> 00:27:53.004
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

00:27:53.071 --> 00:27:56.007
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. &gt;&gt; THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER

00:27:56.074 --> 00:27:59.010
STRAUSS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.

00:27:59.077 --> 00:28:03.014
&gt;&gt; THESE ARE EXCELLENT
CANDIDATES. THE

00:28:03.081 --> 00:28:08.019
ONE THING, NOT THE ONE THING,
BUT I NOTICED THAT IN MANY OF

00:28:08.086 --> 00:28:10.989
YOUR JOBS YOU WERE PROJECT
MANAGER AND THAT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT,

00:28:11.056 --> 00:28:17.996
BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTAND

00:28:18.063 --> 00:28:19.998
EVERY STEP OF A PROJECT FROM,
YOU KNOW, PERMITTING THROUGH
CONSTRUCTION,

00:28:20.065 --> 00:28:23.001
ET CETERA.

00:28:23.068 --> 00:28:26.004
AND DESIGN, OF COURSE. SO I
THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
TO HAVE AN

00:28:26.071 --> 00:28:32.010
UNDERSTANDING OF ON THE GROUND
COMPLEXITIES AND CHALLENGES

00:28:32.077 --> 00:28:36.014
OF BUILDING IN SEATTLE, AS WELL
AS PRESERVING IN SEATTLE,

00:28:36.081 --> 00:28:40.018
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND
FOR EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION, ONE
OF

00:28:40.085 --> 00:28:43.988
THE PROJECTS THAT SHE LEAD ON
DID GET

00:28:44.055 --> 00:28:44.989
AN AWARD.

00:28:45.056 --> 00:28:49.994
GOT THE AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING
HISTORIC BUILDING
REHABILITATION,

00:28:50.061 --> 00:28:54.999
WHICH WAS THE WAREHOUSE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

00:28:55.066 --> 00:28:57.001
I THINK YOU ARE A FABULOUS PICK
AND THANK

00:28:57.068 --> 00:29:01.005
YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ANTHONY,
YOU AND I GRADUATED FROM UCSB
THE

00:29:01.072 --> 00:29:06.010
SAME YEAR. ANYWAY, I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE

00:29:06.077 --> 00:29:08.012
NEXUS BETWEEN INDUSTRY AND
HISTORY.

00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:16.020
THE FACT THAT YOU ARE FOCUSED ON
THE BALLARD

00:29:16.087 --> 00:29:19.991
BEER DISTRICT IS, OF COURSE,
SOMETHING THAT I AM

00:29:20.058 --> 00:29:25.997
ESPECIALLY ATTRACTED TO. IT
REALLY IS IMPORTANT. THAT WE
KEEP

00:29:26.064 --> 00:29:32.003
IN MIND WHAT THE

00:29:32.070 --> 00:29:35.006
INDUSTRIES ARE IN HISTORIC
DISTRICTS AND HOW THOSE

00:29:35.073 --> 00:29:44.015
INDUSTRIES MIGHT CHANGE AND
EVOLVE. AND I LIKE

00:29:44.082 --> 00:29:45.483
THAT NEXUS THAT YOU BRING, SO
THANK YOU VERY

00:29:45.550 --> 00:29:46.518
MUCH FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE.

00:29:46.584 --> 00:29:49.020
&gt;&gt; ABSOLUTELY

00:29:49.087 --> 00:29:50.989
AND I HOPE YOU PICKED UP ON THE
WORD NEXUS. IF YOU RECALL IT IS

00:29:51.055 --> 00:29:55.994
THE DAILY NEXUS. ALWAYS A
FAVORITE WORD OF MINE.

00:29:56.060 --> 00:30:04.002
&gt;&gt; WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COLLEAGUES, IF THERE ARE NO
--OH, COUNCILMEMBER

00:30:04.068 --> 00:30:07.939
STRAUSS, DID YOU HAVE A
FOLLOW-UP?

00:30:08.006 --> 00:30:10.942
&gt;&gt; YEAH, THE 747 FIRST TOOK
FLIGHT IN 1969.

00:30:11.009 --> 00:30:18.950
THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT
STARTED IN 1976. I WAS JUST
MAKING THE COMPARISON

00:30:19.017 --> 00:30:22.954
EARLIER THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK,
SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED

00:30:23.021 --> 00:30:28.927
IN OUR WORLD. JUST CLARIFYING --

00:30:28.993 --> 00:30:29.928
&gt;&gt; THANKS VERY MUCH.

00:30:29.994 --> 00:30:36.935
HISTORICAL ACCURACY IS
APPRECIATED. OKAY, COLLEAGUES,
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER

00:30:37.001 --> 00:30:37.936
COMMENTS THAN I AM GOING TO MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS
APPROVAL

00:30:38.002 --> 00:30:43.942
OF APPOINTMENTS 2420 AND 2421.

00:30:44.008 --> 00:30:45.944
IS THERE A SECOND?

00:30:46.010 --> 00:30:46.945
&gt;&gt; SECOND. &gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

00:30:47.011 --> 00:30:52.951
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
APPOINTMENTS.

00:30:53.017 --> 00:30:54.953
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.

00:30:55.019 --> 00:30:55.954
&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.

00:30:56.020 --> 00:30:58.923
&gt;&gt; YES. &gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.

00:30:58.990 --> 00:31:01.926
&gt;&gt; YES.

00:31:01.993 --> 00:31:05.930
&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.

00:31:05.997 --> 00:31:11.936
&gt;&gt; AYE. &gt;&gt; CHAIR MORALES.

00:31:12.003 --> 00:31:12.937
&gt;&gt; YES. &gt;&gt; FOUR IN FAVOR.

00:31:13.004 --> 00:31:14.939
&gt;&gt; THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL
APPROVED THE APPOINTMENTS

00:31:15.006 --> 00:31:16.941
WILL BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.

00:31:17.008 --> 00:31:20.945
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE,
EVERYBODY.

00:31:21.012 --> 00:31:23.948
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND WE WILL
SEE YOU ALL SOON. LET'S GO AHEAD
TO

00:31:24.015 --> 00:31:29.954
AGENDA ITEM FIVE. PLEASE READ
THAT INTO THE RECORD.

00:31:30.021 --> 00:31:33.925
&gt;&gt; AGENDA ITEM FIVE, COUNCIL
BILL 120312, AND

00:31:33.992 --> 00:31:38.930
ORDINANCE RELATING TO HISTORIC
PRESERVATION, IMPOSING CONTROLS
UPON

00:31:38.997 --> 00:31:40.932
THE SEATTLE-FIRST NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING,

00:31:40.999 --> 00:31:45.937
A LANDMARK DESIGNATED BY THE
BOARD UNDER CHAPTER 25.12

00:31:46.004 --> 00:31:47.939
OF THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE
AND ADDING IT TO THE TABLE OF

00:31:48.006 --> 00:31:53.945
HISTORICAL LANDMARKS CONTAINED
IN CHAPTER 25.32

00:31:54.012 --> 00:31:56.447
OF THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE.
FOR BRIEFING,

00:31:56.514 --> 00:31:58.082
DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE VOTE.

00:31:58.149 --> 00:32:01.953
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO,

00:32:02.020 --> 00:32:05.923
WE HAVE LISH WHITSON FROM
COUNCIL CENTRAL

00:32:05.990 --> 00:32:14.932
STAFF HERE. AND, I'M SORRY, CAN
YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF?

00:32:14.999 --> 00:32:18.936
&gt;&gt; GOOD MORNING.

00:32:19.003 --> 00:32:20.938
JESSICA ROWE HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE OWNER.

00:32:21.005 --> 00:32:25.943
&gt;&gt; PERFECT, THANK YOU.

00:32:26.010 --> 00:32:29.947
SO, COLLEAGUES, THIS IS AS YOU
WILL RECALL A BILL THAT WE

00:32:30.014 --> 00:32:32.950
BEGAN DISCUSSING LAST SPRING. I
DELAYED A VOTE AT THAT TIME
BECAUSE

00:32:33.017 --> 00:32:37.922
I WAS STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND
CANDIDLY THE BENEFIT THAT OCCURS

00:32:37.989 --> 00:32:41.926
TO THE CITY FOR PROTECTING THIS
BUILDING.

00:32:41.993 --> 00:32:44.929
SO I AM GOING TO START BY ASKING
LISH TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW

00:32:44.996 --> 00:32:50.935
AND THEN I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR
DISCUSSION.

00:32:51.002 --> 00:32:59.944
SORRY, I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR MY
SCRIPT.

00:33:00.011 --> 00:33:05.016
DO I NEED TO MOVE THIS FIRST FOR
DISCUSSION?

00:33:05.083 --> 00:33:09.354
IT IS ALREADY OPEN. OKAY. THANK
YOU. OKAY, LISH, I WILL HAND IT
OFF TO YOU. PLEASE

00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:10.021
GO AHEAD.

00:33:10.088 --> 00:33:14.926
&gt;&gt; GOOD MORNING, LISH WHITSON,
COUNCIL CENTRAL

00:33:14.992 --> 00:33:17.929
STAFF AND I WILL SHARE THE
PRESENTATION THAT

00:33:17.995 --> 00:33:26.938
YOU SAW LAST APRIL.

00:33:27.004 --> 00:33:32.944
THERE WE GO.

00:33:33.010 --> 00:33:38.950
SO THIS IS THE DESIGNATION
--SORRY.

00:33:39.016 --> 00:33:47.925
THIS BILL WOULD APPROVE

00:33:47.992 --> 00:33:53.931
THE SEATTLE-FIRST NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING

00:33:53.998 --> 00:33:55.933
IN THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. IT
IS A MODERNIST

00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:06.010
BUILDING BUILT IN 1950. IT IS
LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER

00:34:06.077 --> 00:34:08.012
OF DENNY WAY AND SIXTH AVENUE
NORTH. THE LANDMARK

00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.016
PRESERVATION BOARD DESIGNATED
THE BUILDING IN

00:34:12.083 --> 00:34:16.020
2006 AND APPROVED THE AGREEMENT
NEGOTIATED

00:34:16.087 --> 00:34:17.989
WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER LAST
YEAR.

00:34:18.055 --> 00:34:23.995
THE LANDMARKS BOARD DESIGNATION
WAS BASED ON FOUR DIFFERENT
CRITERIA. THEY ARE

00:34:24.061 --> 00:34:26.998
INCLUDED IN THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE.

00:34:27.064 --> 00:34:30.001
THE FIRST IS THE DESIGNATION
CRITERIA C, WHICH IS THAT

00:34:30.067 --> 00:34:36.007
THE BUILDING EMBODIES

00:34:36.073 --> 00:34:39.010
IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE CITY,
REGIONAL, NATIONAL HISTORY. IN
THIS

00:34:39.076 --> 00:34:47.018
CASE, THERE ARE THREE
INTERWEAVING HISTORIES

00:34:47.084 --> 00:34:50.988
WHICH THE BOARD IDENTIFIED AS
IMPORTANT.

00:34:51.055 --> 00:34:53.991
AS PART OF THIS BUILDING.

00:34:54.058 --> 00:34:56.994
FIRST IS THE HISTORY OF THE
SEATTLE-FIRST NATIONAL BANK,
WHICH

00:34:57.061 --> 00:35:03.000
HAD ITS ROOTS IN SEATTLE'S

00:35:03.067 --> 00:35:06.003
FIRST BANK.

00:35:06.070 --> 00:35:12.009
AND AT ONE POINT WAS THE LARGEST
BANK IN WASHINGTON STATE.

00:35:12.076 --> 00:35:18.015
THE SECOND IS THE HISTORY OF
BANKING PRACTICES. THIS WAS

00:35:18.082 --> 00:35:21.018
REPRESENTATIVE OF LOCAL BRANCH
BANKS, WHERE BANKING

00:35:21.085 --> 00:35:24.021
WAS MOVING AWAY FROM LARGE,
IMPOSING EDIFICES IN THE

00:35:24.088 --> 00:35:29.994
HEARTS OF DOWNTOWNS AND MOVING
TOWARDS BRANCHES

00:35:30.061 --> 00:35:36.000
THAT WERE BETTER DESIGNED TO
SERVE THE PUBLIC IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS

00:35:36.067 --> 00:35:41.005
AND, IN PARTICULAR, MORE
WELCOMING

00:35:41.072 --> 00:35:44.008
TO WOMEN. FINALLY THE HISTORY OF
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

00:35:44.075 --> 00:35:48.012
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST
BUILDINGS BUILT IN THE AREA

00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:54.018
AFTER THE REGRADE. SO, IT IS

00:35:54.085 --> 00:35:57.021
INVOLVED IN THE HISTORY OF THE
SOUTH LAKE

00:35:57.088 --> 00:35:59.991
UNION UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

00:36:00.057 --> 00:36:02.994
THE SECOND CRITERIA THAT THE
LANDMARKS BOARD IDENTIFIED

00:36:03.060 --> 00:36:09.000
WAS THAT THIS BUILDING EMBODIES

00:36:09.066 --> 00:36:12.003
MODERNIST ARCHITECTURE.

00:36:12.069 --> 00:36:20.011
CRITERIUM E THAT THE LANDMARKS
BOARD IDENTIFIED

00:36:20.077 --> 00:36:24.015
WERE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
ARCHITECTS OF THE BUILDING.

00:36:24.081 --> 00:36:28.019
HOLMES AND MALONEY WERE
IMPORTANT MODERNIST ARCHITECTS
IN SEATTLE.

00:36:28.085 --> 00:36:33.991
FINALLY THEY LOOKED

00:36:34.058 --> 00:36:39.997
AT THE LOCATION, VISIBILITY, AND
SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER
TO DESIGNATE

00:36:40.064 --> 00:36:43.000
BASED ON CRITERIA F.

00:36:43.067 --> 00:36:49.006
AS YOU KNOW, DENNY WAY HAS A
NUMBER OF DIAGONAL STREETS

00:36:49.073 --> 00:36:52.009
THAT INTERSECT IT AND THIS BANK
IS SORT OF AT THE CORNER

00:36:52.076 --> 00:36:58.015
WHERE TWO OF THOSE DIAGONAL
STREETS MEET

00:36:58.082 --> 00:36:59.016
DENNY WAY.

00:36:59.083 --> 00:37:03.020
IT IS A PROMINENT LOCATION. ONCE
THE LANDMARKS BOARD DECIDES TO
DESIGNATE

00:37:03.087 --> 00:37:05.990
A BUILDING, THE STAFF AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF

00:37:06.057 --> 00:37:09.994
NEIGHBORHOODS NEGOTIATE
AGREEMENTS WITH THE BUILDING'S
OWNER. IN THIS

00:37:10.061 --> 00:37:12.997
CASE, CONTROLS ARE PLACED ON THE
BUILDING

00:37:13.064 --> 00:37:19.003
AND THE SITE AND STANDARD
INCENTIVES

00:37:19.070 --> 00:37:20.004
ARE PROVIDED.

00:37:20.071 --> 00:37:25.009
FLEXIBILITY UNDER THE LAND-USE
BUILDING AND ENERGY CODES,
SPECIAL

00:37:25.076 --> 00:37:28.012
PROPERTY TAX IF THE BUILDING IS
REHABILITATED,

00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.015
AND THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER
DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND

00:37:31.082 --> 00:37:35.019
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL ARE

00:37:35.086 --> 00:37:37.989
ALL INCENTIVES THE LEGISLATION
WOULD PROVIDE TO THE PROPERTY
OWNER.

00:37:38.055 --> 00:37:41.993
THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL WILL

00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:45.997
ALLOW PLANNED GROWTH IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN AS THE

00:37:46.063 --> 00:37:49.000
BUILDING REMAINS.

00:37:49.066 --> 00:37:52.003
AND THE SEATTLE NEXT UPTOWN
ZONING, ADOPTED IN 2017,
CONSIDERED

00:37:52.069 --> 00:37:58.009
PRESERVATION OF THIS BUILDING

00:37:58.075 --> 00:38:01.012
IN THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
POTENTIAL PROGRAM THAT

00:38:01.078 --> 00:38:04.015
APPLIES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

00:38:04.081 --> 00:38:06.017
THE COUNCIL HAS AUTHORITY UNDER
THE CODE

00:38:06.083 --> 00:38:10.021
TO ADOPT, AMEND, OR REJECT
CONTROL INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS,
BUT

00:38:10.087 --> 00:38:12.990
HAS NEVER REJECTED A CONTROL
INCENTIVES AGREEMENT AND HAS
ONLY

00:38:13.057 --> 00:38:18.996
ONCE AMENDED AN AGREEMENT. AND I
AM

00:38:19.063 --> 00:38:21.999
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD

00:38:22.066 --> 00:38:29.006
STAFF IS ALSO ON THE LINE

00:38:29.073 --> 00:38:30.007
FOR MORE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.

00:38:30.074 --> 00:38:37.014
&gt;&gt; GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
LISH. COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE
QUESTIONS

00:38:37.081 --> 00:38:45.990
FOR LISH OR STAFF? I'M SORRY,
CAN YOU RESTATE

00:38:46.057 --> 00:38:46.991
YOUR NAME FOR ME PLEASE.

00:38:47.058 --> 00:38:49.994
&gt;&gt; OF COURSE, THANK YOU. I AM
JESSICA ROWE, HERE ON BEHALF OF

00:38:50.061 --> 00:38:54.999
THE OWNER AND I AM ALSO JOINED
BY HEIDI MARTINEZ FROM
WALGREENS.

00:38:55.066 --> 00:38:57.001
SHE IS ON THE SAME -- &gt;&gt;

00:38:57.068 --> 00:39:01.005
THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT

00:39:01.072 --> 00:39:04.008
THIS PARTICULAR BILL?

00:39:04.075 --> 00:39:10.014
I WILL SAY THAT, AS I HAVE SAID
BEFORE,

00:39:10.081 --> 00:39:13.017
YOU KNOW, I WAS STRUGGLING TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT

00:39:13.084 --> 00:39:18.989
BENEFIT IN PARTICULAR ACCRUES TO
THE CITY

00:39:19.056 --> 00:39:21.992
FOR PROTECTING WHAT IS A
ONE-STORY BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE
OF A VERY DENSE

00:39:22.059 --> 00:39:25.996
NEIGHBORHOOD. AND YOU KNOW, I
REALIZE

00:39:26.063 --> 00:39:31.001
AS LISH SAID THAT OUR OPTIONS
ARE LIMITED HERE.

00:39:31.068 --> 00:39:34.004
WE CAN MODIFY THE CONTROLS IN
THE AGREEMENT, BUT WE CAN'T
CHANGE

00:39:34.071 --> 00:39:39.009
THE DESIGNATION THAT HAS ALREADY
BEEN GRANTED BY THE LANDMARKS
BOARD.

00:39:39.076 --> 00:39:43.013
THIS PROJECT RECEIVED ITS
LANDMARK STATUS

00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:49.019
IN 2006. THE AGREEMENT IS VERY
DIFFERENT FROM RECENT
AGREEMENTS.

00:39:49.086 --> 00:39:50.988
THAT, IN THE CHAIR'S OPINION,
ALIGNED MORE CLOSELY TO OUR

00:39:51.055 --> 00:39:54.992
CITY'S PRIORITIES RIGHT NOW
AROUND HOUSING AND TRUE

00:39:55.059 --> 00:39:57.995
COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

00:39:58.062 --> 00:40:00.998
I WILL ALSO SAY IT IS THE
OPINION OF THE CHAIR THAT THE

00:40:01.065 --> 00:40:04.001
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE
STRAINS TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS
BUILDING

00:40:04.068 --> 00:40:08.939
WARRANTS PROTECTION.

00:40:09.006 --> 00:40:11.942
I UNDERSTAND WHAT BENEFITS WOULD
ACCRUE IN THE TRANSACTION OF

00:40:12.009 --> 00:40:13.944
SELLING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. WHAT
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHAT

00:40:14.011 --> 00:40:18.949
BENEFIT ACCRUES TO THE CITY FOR
PROTECTING A BUILDING THAT IS

00:40:19.016 --> 00:40:21.952
NOT UNIQUE.

00:40:22.019 --> 00:40:23.954
THERE ARE FOUR OTHER BUILDINGS
THAT ARE SIMILAR. THAT DOES

00:40:24.021 --> 00:40:27.925
NOT RETAIN ITS ORIGINAL PURPOSE.
IT IS NO LONGER

00:40:27.992 --> 00:40:32.930
A BANK. NOR HAS IT RETAINED THE
ORIGINAL INTERIOR.

00:40:32.997 --> 00:40:34.932
AND AS I SAID IN OUR DISCUSSIONS
LAST SPRING, PRESERVING

00:40:34.999 --> 00:40:39.937
THIS PARTICULAR ONE-STORY
BUILDING DOES NOT MAKE SENSE,
GIVEN

00:40:40.004 --> 00:40:45.943
THE HOUSING CRISIS WE ARE IN AND
THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS
CHANGED DRAMATICALLY

00:40:46.010 --> 00:40:48.946
SINCE 2006. YOU KNOW, SOUTH LAKE
UNION AND THE

00:40:49.013 --> 00:40:57.922
AREAS AROUND THEIR -- SO, YOU
KNOW, I HAVE BEEN GIVING THIS

00:40:57.988 --> 00:41:03.928
A LOT OF CONSIDERATION. IT IS MY
BELIEF THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD
BE BETTER

00:41:03.994 --> 00:41:06.931
SERVED AS A CITY IF WE WERE ABLE
TO USE THIS SITE,

00:41:06.997 --> 00:41:09.934
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS PROJECT
AND WILL BE VOTING NO. I AM
GOING

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.136
TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO COMMENT

00:41:12.203 --> 00:41:15.806
AND THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.

00:41:15.873 --> 00:41:21.946
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, CHAIR MORALES.
SIMILARLY

00:41:22.012 --> 00:41:24.949
AS THE COUNCILMEMBER WHO
REPRESENTS DISTRICT

00:41:25.015 --> 00:41:30.921
7, WHERE THIS PROJECT WERE WHERE
THIS BUILDING IS LOCATED,

00:41:30.988 --> 00:41:35.926
I DON'T BELIEVE, BASED ON
SIMILAR CRITERIA,

00:41:35.993 --> 00:41:39.930
THAT THE CHAIR JUST ADDRESSED,
THAT THIS IS

00:41:39.997 --> 00:41:45.936
AN APPROPRIATE DESIGNATION AND
APPROPRIATE CONTROLS FOR THE
GIVEN PROPERTY.

00:41:46.003 --> 00:41:49.807
YOU KNOW, SOUTH LAKE UNION IS
ONE OF THE FASTEST-GROWING,

00:41:49.874 --> 00:41:52.343
DENSEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE
CITY.

00:41:52.409 --> 00:41:57.948
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

00:41:58.015 --> 00:41:59.950
SOUND TRANSIT GOING THROUGH THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LIGHT RAIL

00:42:00.017 --> 00:42:05.923
SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND
WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO REALIZE

00:42:05.990 --> 00:42:09.927
THE HIGHEST USE OF PARCELS FOR
TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT
AND, FRANKLY,

00:42:09.994 --> 00:42:14.932
THOSE KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS
WEIGH ON ME MAKING

00:42:14.999 --> 00:42:21.939
DECISIONS AROUND HISTORIC
PROTECTIONS AND DESIGNATIONS.

00:42:22.006 --> 00:42:24.942
THE ONE SIDE OF THE SCALE,
VERSUS THE

00:42:25.009 --> 00:42:27.945
OTHER SIDE OF THE SCALE TO
PROTECT THE BUILDING. I DON'T
KNOW THAT THE

00:42:28.012 --> 00:42:33.951
CHARACTERISTICS -- I DO NOT
BELIEVE THAT THE CHARACTERISTICS

00:42:34.018 --> 00:42:36.954
OF THIS BUILDING OUTWEIGH THE
ALTERNATIVE POTENTIALS OF THIS
SITE

00:42:37.021 --> 00:42:42.927
IN THE FUTURE OF HOW WE GROW

00:42:42.993 --> 00:42:45.930
AND EXPAND AS A CITY, SO FOR
THOSE REASONS I SIMILARLY WILL
NOT BE SUPPORTING

00:42:45.996 --> 00:42:53.938
THIS LEGISLATION THIS MORNING.

00:42:54.004 --> 00:42:55.639
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.

00:42:55.706 --> 00:42:56.674
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.

00:42:56.740 --> 00:42:57.942
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU VERY

00:42:58.008 --> 00:42:59.944
MUCH.

00:43:00.010 --> 00:43:03.948
I THINK IT WAS APRIL 22 WHEN WE
DISCUSSED THIS LAST TIME AND I

00:43:04.014 --> 00:43:07.952
DID MENTION THAT MY CONCERN WAS
THIS IS

00:43:08.018 --> 00:43:12.923
IN A GROWING NEIGHBORHOOD,
ECHOING WHAT HAS BEEN SAID
TODAY, BUT THAT

00:43:12.990 --> 00:43:15.926
HOUSING IS A CORE PRIORITY RIGHT
NOW AND

00:43:15.993 --> 00:43:20.931
I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE OF
THIS SPACE AND ALSO

00:43:20.998 --> 00:43:24.935
THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
RIGHTS AND HOW THAT WOULD

00:43:25.002 --> 00:43:27.938
ALL WORK. BUT IT IS BETTER TO
BUILD HOUSING

00:43:28.005 --> 00:43:32.943
ON SITE THEN EVEN TRANSFER

00:43:33.010 --> 00:43:36.947
THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, SO I
WILL BE VOTING NO, AS WELL. BUT
I DO HAVE

00:43:37.014 --> 00:43:42.953
A QUESTION FIRST, WHICH IS, ARE
THERE ANY HOUSING SPECIALISTS --

00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:46.924
I DID READ THE REQUIREMENTS FOR
THE LANDMARKS BOARD

00:43:46.991 --> 00:43:51.929
AND I THINK APPROVED A COUPLE OF
THEM,

00:43:51.996 --> 00:43:58.936
BUT IS THERE ANY HOUSING
SPECIALIST OR HOUSING POLICY
PERSON

00:43:59.003 --> 00:44:03.941
ON THE LANDMARKS BOARD?

00:44:04.008 --> 00:44:08.012
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE FOR SARA
BELZ OR SOMEBODY --

00:44:08.078 --> 00:44:14.018
&gt;&gt; THIS IS SARAH SODT. WE DON'T

00:44:14.084 --> 00:44:19.990
CURRENTLY HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS
SPECIFIC TO HOUSING

00:44:20.057 --> 00:44:25.996
ON THE LANDMARKS BOARD, BUT WE
DO HAVE A DEVELOPER POSITION.

00:44:26.063 --> 00:44:28.999
&gt;&gt; OH, SORRY.

00:44:29.066 --> 00:44:34.004
&gt;&gt; NO, THAT IS ALL.

00:44:34.071 --> 00:44:38.008
&gt;&gt; THESE DECISIONS HAVE TO BE
MADE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF
OVERARCHING POLICY

00:44:38.075 --> 00:44:41.011
LEADS.

00:44:41.078 --> 00:44:44.014
THAT IS ALL I AM TRYING TO GET
AT, SO THANK YOU

00:44:44.081 --> 00:44:45.783
VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS

00:44:45.849 --> 00:44:47.684
TO THE BOARD. I APPRECIATE IT.

00:44:47.751 --> 00:44:52.990
&gt;&gt; OKAY, SO

00:44:53.057 --> 00:44:55.993
I DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE
LISH AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOOD

00:44:56.060 --> 00:45:00.998
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT

00:45:01.065 --> 00:45:08.005
IF THERE ARE ISSUES OR REMARKS
THAT YOU HAVE. ABOUT THIS

00:45:08.072 --> 00:45:13.010
PARTICULAR PROJECT OR THE
PROCESS HERE.

00:45:13.077 --> 00:45:17.014
&gt;&gt; I WOULD JUST REMIND THE
COUNCIL THAT

00:45:17.081 --> 00:45:21.018
YOUR DECISION IS ON THE
INCENTIVES AND

00:45:21.085 --> 00:45:25.956
NOT THE DESIGNATION OF THE
STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE PURVIEW
OF THE LANDMARKS

00:45:26.023 --> 00:45:27.324
PRESERVATION BOARD.

00:45:27.391 --> 00:45:30.227
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, LISH.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I'M
SORRY,

00:45:30.294 --> 00:45:31.695
I DIDN'T SEE HER HAND BEFORE.

00:45:31.762 --> 00:45:35.999
&gt;&gt; THIS MIGHT BE FOR STAFF.

00:45:36.066 --> 00:45:43.006
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THESE
BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY

00:45:43.073 --> 00:45:45.008
THAT LOOK LIKE THIS. I FIND THEM
TO ACTUALLY BE QUITE BEAUTIFUL.
I

00:45:45.075 --> 00:45:50.013
LIKE THEM A LOT. WE HAVE ONE IN
BALLARD, I BELIEVE THERE IS

00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:55.018
ONE ON 1st AVENUE.

00:45:55.085 --> 00:45:57.020
I BELIEVE THE ONE ON 1st AVENUE
IS ALREADY A

00:45:57.087 --> 00:46:05.062
LANDMARK AND HAS CONTROLS. CAN
YOU CONFIRM THAT?

00:46:05.129 --> 00:46:07.998
&gt;&gt; I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT DOES,
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO
YOU ON

00:46:08.065 --> 00:46:13.203
THAT. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE
ONLY ONE. I WILL HAVE TO LOOK

00:46:13.270 --> 00:46:14.138
INTO IT.

00:46:14.204 --> 00:46:22.012
&gt;&gt; I DID LOOK INTO THAT AND IT
IS NOT LANDMARKED.

00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.016
&gt;&gt; OKAY. I AM JUST TORN, BECAUSE
I LOVE

00:46:26.083 --> 00:46:30.020
THESE BUILDINGS, BUT THIS IS
JUST A PLACE OF INCREDIBLE

00:46:30.087 --> 00:46:33.991
OPPORTUNITY FOR DENSITY AND
HOUSING AND ECONOMIC VITALITY

00:46:34.057 --> 00:46:35.993
AND I DON'T WANT OUR DECISIONS
TO BE HAMPERING THAT.

00:46:36.059 --> 00:46:40.998
SO A LITTLE TORN THIS MORNING. I
APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WORK.

00:46:41.064 --> 00:46:47.004
&gt;&gt; OKAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS ON

00:46:47.070 --> 00:46:50.007
THIS BILL?

00:46:50.073 --> 00:46:53.010
OKAY, COLLEAGUES.

00:46:53.076 --> 00:46:59.016
I AM GOING TO ASK IF SOMEBODY
WOULD LIKE

00:46:59.082 --> 00:47:07.991
TO MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND THIS
BILL.

00:47:08.058 --> 00:47:13.997
&gt;&gt; MADAM CHAIR, A POINT OF ORDER

00:47:14.064 --> 00:47:19.002
FOR THIS.

00:47:19.069 --> 00:47:23.006
MY UNDERSTANDING IS --WELL,
MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR

00:47:23.073 --> 00:47:26.009
THE CLERK. DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE
TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS AND DO A
RECOMMENDATION

00:47:26.076 --> 00:47:32.015
OR IF IT IS CLEAR FROM OUR
STATEMENTS THAT THE COMMITTEE

00:47:32.082 --> 00:47:38.021
IS NOT INCLINED TO RECOMMEND
THIS, CAN WE JUST DECLINE

00:47:38.088 --> 00:47:42.993
TO TAKE ACTION ON IT? I GUESS,
WHAT WOULD BE THE CHAIR'S
PREFERENCE?

00:47:43.060 --> 00:47:45.996
I AM HAPPY TO MOVE THE
LEGISLATION SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE
CAN ALL

00:47:46.063 --> 00:47:50.000
VOTE NO ON IT, IF THAT IS THE
PREFERENCE.

00:47:50.067 --> 00:47:56.006
&gt;&gt; EXCUSE ME. I DO SUGGEST YOU
MOVE IT AND VOTE ON IT, EVEN IF

00:47:56.073 --> 00:47:59.009
IT IS TO VOTE IT DOWN, THAT WAY
WE CAN BRING

00:47:59.076 --> 00:48:00.644
IT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION
UNDER FULL

00:48:00.711 --> 00:48:01.645
COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE.

00:48:01.712 --> 00:48:05.082
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. SO I
MOVE

00:48:05.148 --> 00:48:08.018
THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE LISTED
UNDER AGENDA

00:48:08.085 --> 00:48:11.021
ITEM FIVE.

00:48:11.088 --> 00:48:13.991
&gt;&gt; OKAY, I WILL SECOND IT. SO IT
HAS BEEN MOVED

00:48:14.057 --> 00:48:18.996
AND SECONDED.

00:48:19.062 --> 00:48:19.997
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL?

00:48:20.063 --> 00:48:23.000
&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.

00:48:23.066 --> 00:48:26.003
&gt;&gt; NO. &gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
&gt;&gt; NO.

00:48:26.069 --> 00:48:32.009
&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. &gt;&gt; NO.
&gt;&gt; CHAIR MORALES.

00:48:32.075 --> 00:48:35.012
&gt;&gt; NO. &gt;&gt; FOUR OPPOSED.

00:48:35.078 --> 00:48:41.018
&gt;&gt; OKAY, SO WE WILL NOT BE
MOVING THIS FORWARD TO FULL
COUNCIL.

00:48:41.084 --> 00:48:44.021
YES?

00:48:44.087 --> 00:48:54.998
WE WILL BE MOVING --I'M SORRY,
THIS IS A NEW SITUATION FOR ME.

00:48:55.065 --> 00:48:59.002
WE WILL MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
NOT RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THIS
BILL

00:48:59.069 --> 00:49:03.006
TO FULL COUNCIL AND THAT WILL BE
AT

00:49:03.073 --> 00:49:05.075
THE JANUARY 3, 2023 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.

00:49:05.142 --> 00:49:08.011
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT IS THE
CORRECT COURSE OF ACTION?

00:49:08.078 --> 00:49:08.712
&gt;&gt; THAT IS

00:49:08.779 --> 00:49:09.846
CORRECT, THANK YOU.

00:49:09.913 --> 00:49:14.017
&gt;&gt; OKAY, THANK YOU VERY

00:49:14.084 --> 00:49:19.990
MUCH, COLLEAGUES. WE WILL TAKE
THIS UP AGAIN AT THE

00:49:20.057 --> 00:49:22.993
JANUARY 3 FULL COUNCIL MEETING.

00:49:23.060 --> 00:49:28.999
&gt;&gt; DO YOU MIND?

00:49:29.066 --> 00:49:32.002
I THOUGHT YOU MAY CALL ON ME AND
I SHOULD HAVE INTERVENED.

00:49:32.069 --> 00:49:35.005
I WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE
OWNER, WE PREFER THIS ALSO NOT

00:49:35.072 --> 00:49:38.008
BE LANDMARKED. I WANT TO CLARIFY
THAT, SO WE SUPPORT THE COMMENTS

00:49:38.075 --> 00:49:41.011
THAT YOU MADE.

00:49:41.078 --> 00:49:43.013
THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNATED
BEFORE THE OWNER ACQUIRED

00:49:43.080 --> 00:49:47.017
THIS BUILDING AND WE WERE GOING
THROUGH THE PROCESS TO DO TDR,

00:49:47.084 --> 00:49:51.988
BUT AT THIS POINT WE ARE ALSO
SUPPORTIVE OF THE

00:49:52.055 --> 00:49:55.992
VOTE YOU JUST MADE. WE
APPRECIATE IT.

00:49:56.059 --> 00:49:58.095
WE ARE HERE FOR OTHER QUESTIONS
BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.

00:49:58.161 --> 00:49:58.762
THANK YOU.

00:49:58.829 --> 00:50:01.231
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON.

00:50:01.298 --> 00:50:03.967
&gt;&gt; I JUST HAVE A POINT OF
CLARIFICATION.

00:50:04.034 --> 00:50:07.938
SO, YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU
PREFER

00:50:08.004 --> 00:50:09.940
IT NOT TO BE LANDMARKED.

00:50:10.006 --> 00:50:13.944
LISH MADE A POINT OF SAYING WE
ARE DECIDING UPON THE CONTROLS,
NOT THE

00:50:14.010 --> 00:50:16.947
LANDMARK STATUS.

00:50:17.013 --> 00:50:21.952
SO, I KNOW THAT TACOMA, THE CITY
COUNCIL IN TACOMA CAN UNDO A
LANDMARK DECISION

00:50:22.018 --> 00:50:25.922
OR THE LAND MARKING OF A
BUILDING, SO WHAT

00:50:25.989 --> 00:50:28.925
IS IT EXACTLY?

00:50:28.992 --> 00:50:33.930
&gt;&gt; COUNCILMEMBER, I AM SO SORRY.

00:50:33.997 --> 00:50:39.035
DEVON CAME TO TALK TO ME AT THE
BEGINNING OF YOUR QUESTION. DO
YOU MIND

00:50:39.102 --> 00:50:40.103
RESTATING IT?

00:50:40.170 --> 00:50:45.942
&gt;&gt; WELL I THINK IT IS --

00:50:46.009 --> 00:50:49.946
WE ARE SIMPLY NOT APPROVING THE
CONTROLS, IS THAT CORRECT?

00:50:50.013 --> 00:50:52.949
&gt;&gt; YES. &gt;&gt; I THINK THAT CAN BE A
QUESTION FOR

00:50:53.016 --> 00:50:55.952
YOUR CITY ATTORNEY.

00:50:56.019 --> 00:50:58.922
IN OUR OPINION YOU HAVE THE
AUTHORITY TO

00:50:58.989 --> 00:51:00.924
REPEAL THE DESIGNATION.

00:51:00.991 --> 00:51:04.995
SO THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN
DISCUSS WITH YOUR CITY ATTORNEY.

00:51:05.061 --> 00:51:07.931
WE ARE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON IT.

00:51:07.998 --> 00:51:10.934
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

00:51:11.001 --> 00:51:13.937
OKAY.

00:51:14.004 --> 00:51:19.943
LISH, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A
COMMENT?

00:51:20.010 --> 00:51:25.949
&gt;&gt; NO, WE CAN DIVE INTO THAT A
LITTLE BIT MORE BETWEEN NOW AND

00:51:26.016 --> 00:51:28.952
-- &gt;&gt;

00:51:29.019 --> 00:51:34.925
TERRIFIC. OKAY, THANK YOU,
EVERYONE.

00:51:34.991 --> 00:51:42.933
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS COUNCIL
BILL 120456.

00:51:42.999 --> 00:51:46.937
OUR FINAL ITEM IS THE PUBLIC
HEARING ON THIS BILL.

00:51:47.003 --> 00:51:48.939
THIS IS DEPARTMENT GENERATED
LEGISLATION THAT

00:51:49.005 --> 00:51:56.947
WOULD EXTEND HISTORIC
PRESERVATION REVIEW PROCESSES

00:51:57.013 --> 00:51:57.948
FOR SOME OF OUR BOARDS.

00:51:58.014 --> 00:51:59.950
WE PLEASE READ THE ITEM INTO THE
RECORD?

00:52:00.016 --> 00:52:03.954
&gt;&gt; AGENDA ITEM SIX, COUNCIL BILL
120456,

00:52:04.020 --> 00:52:07.924
AND ORDINANCE RELATING TO
HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW
PROCEDURES,

00:52:07.991 --> 00:52:14.931
AMENDING AND MAKING PERMANENT
CERTAIN TEMPORARY PROCEDURES,
AMENDING SECTIONS

00:52:14.998 --> 00:52:23.940
23.6 6.030, 25.12.320,

00:52:24.007 --> 00:52:29.946
25.12.720, 25.1 6.100,

00:52:30.013 --> 00:52:35.952
25.2 0.090, 25.2 1.110,

00:52:36.019 --> 00:52:41.925
25.2 2.110, 25.2 4.070,

00:52:41.992 --> 00:52:47.931
AND 2.5 --

00:52:47.998 --> 00:52:50.934
25.3 0.090 OF THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE FOR PUBLIC
HEARING,

00:52:51.001 --> 00:52:56.940
BRIEFING, AND DISCUSSION.

00:52:57.007 --> 00:53:01.945
&gt;&gt; OKAY, SO PRIOR TO DISCUSSION
I WILL OPEN

00:53:02.012 --> 00:53:03.947
THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO
HAVE LOTS

00:53:04.014 --> 00:53:10.954
OF FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO
THIS, SO EACH

00:53:11.021 --> 00:53:12.923
SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN, I AM
GOING TO SAY

00:53:12.989 --> 00:53:17.928
A MINUTE AND A HALF. WE HAVE
SEVERAL PAGES OF FOLKS HERE.
THERE WILL

00:53:17.994 --> 00:53:20.931
BE -- WE DO HAVE A FEW FOLKS
SIGNED UP VIRTUALLY,

00:53:20.997 --> 00:53:24.935
SO I AM GOING TO START WITH
THEM.

00:53:25.001 --> 00:53:27.938
THERE ARE ONLY TWO FOLKS PRESENT
AT THIS POINT ANYWAY, SO WE WILL
START

00:53:28.004 --> 00:53:32.943
WITH THEM AND THEN MOVE ON TO
THE FOLKS HERE IN PERSON. I WILL

00:53:33.009 --> 00:53:35.946
CALL ON EACH SPEAKER BY NAME AND
IN THE ORDER YOU SIGNED UP. YOU

00:53:36.012 --> 00:53:39.950
WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

00:53:40.016 --> 00:53:42.953
IF YOU ARE CALLING IN, PLEASE
DIAL STAR SIX TO BEGIN SPEAKING.
AS A

00:53:43.019 --> 00:53:49.926
REMINDER, PUBLIC TESTIMONY
SHOULD RELATE ONLY TO

00:53:49.993 --> 00:53:52.929
COUNCIL BILL 120456. YOU WILL
HEAR A

00:53:52.996 --> 00:53:56.933
TIME WHEN YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS
LAST LEFT.

00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.936
IF YOU ARE LISTENING ONLINE AND
WANT TO CONTINUE LISTENING,

00:54:00.003 --> 00:54:02.939
PLEASE DO SO ON SEATTLE CHANNEL
AND HANG UP YOUR

00:54:03.006 --> 00:54:09.012
LINE. OKAY, THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON COUNCIL BILL 120456

00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:15.018
IS NOW OPEN.

00:54:15.085 --> 00:54:18.021
YEAH, THANK YOU.

00:54:18.088 --> 00:54:23.994
SO, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ROBERT
MESSINA. IF YOU WILL PLEASE PUSH

00:54:24.060 --> 00:54:30.000
STAR SIX, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE
AND 30 SECONDS.

00:54:30.066 --> 00:54:35.005
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

00:54:35.071 --> 00:54:37.007
MY NAME IS BOB MESSINA. FOR THE
LAST 11 YEARS I HAVE BEEN
ATTENDING

00:54:37.073 --> 00:54:39.009
MEETINGS OF THE PARK PLACE
MARKET TDA AND ITS COMMITTEES,
INCLUDING

00:54:39.075 --> 00:54:42.012
THOSE OF THE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION.

00:54:42.078 --> 00:54:51.021
I AM SPEAKING TODAY IN SUPPORT
OF THE PARK PLACE

00:54:51.087 --> 00:54:52.989
MARKET HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND
THE EFFORTS TO KEEP

00:54:53.056 --> 00:54:54.991
THEIR ROLE AND AUTHORITY OVER
CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL IN

00:54:55.058 --> 00:54:58.995
THE MARKET. TO BE SPECIFIC I
URGE YOU TO AMEND

00:54:59.062 --> 00:55:01.998
COUNCIL BILL 120456 BY REMOVING
SECTION 8 FROM THE TEXT OF THIS

00:55:02.065 --> 00:55:05.068
BILL. SECTION 8 REMOVES POWERS
FROM THE COMMISSION AND

00:55:05.135 --> 00:55:09.005
TRANSFERS THEM TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF NEIGHBORHOODS, WHERE THEY
WILL BE DECIDED BY A CITY

00:55:09.072 --> 00:55:12.008
STAFF MEMBER WITHOUT THE
DELIBERATION OF

00:55:12.075 --> 00:55:17.013
THE 12 PIKE PLACE MARKET
HISTORICAL DISTRICT
COMMISSIONERS

00:55:17.080 --> 00:55:21.017
AND WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENT AND
THIS MEANS WITHOUT AN OPEN

00:55:21.084 --> 00:55:24.020
PUBLIC MEETING. THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET YOU SEE TODAY IS NOT A
RANDOM

00:55:24.087 --> 00:55:25.989
FREE-FOR-ALL COLLECTION OF
SHOPS.

00:55:26.056 --> 00:55:29.993
THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION
RECOGNIZES THE SMALLER SCALE OF

00:55:30.060 --> 00:55:32.996
AVAILABLE SPACE IN THE MARKET AS
WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITIES

00:55:33.063 --> 00:55:38.001
FOR SMALL START UP BUSINESSES TO
THRIVE.

00:55:38.068 --> 00:55:40.003
THESE DECISIONS OVER DESIGN AND
USE IN THE MARKET

00:55:40.070 --> 00:55:43.006
HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN
PRESERVING HISTORICAL CHARACTER,
AS WELL AS ENSURING

00:55:43.073 --> 00:55:45.008
A SUCCESSFUL AND SUSTAINABLE
MARKET.

00:55:45.075 --> 00:55:48.011
THESE 12 COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN
DOING THEIR

00:55:48.078 --> 00:55:53.016
JOBS WELL AND THERE MUST BE NO
ENCROACHMENT

00:55:53.083 --> 00:55:57.020
BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS INTO THEIR
LONG-ESTABLISHED

00:55:57.087 --> 00:56:01.991
ROLES. THANK YOU.

00:56:02.058 --> 00:56:05.995
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER
IS IRENE WALL. PLEASE PRESS

00:56:06.062 --> 00:56:08.998
STAR SIX.

00:56:09.065 --> 00:56:12.001
IRENE WALL.

00:56:12.068 --> 00:56:14.804
I SHOW YOU PRESENT. YOU MIGHT BE
MUTED.

00:56:14.871 --> 00:56:16.473
PRESS STAR SIX TO BEGIN.

00:56:16.539 --> 00:56:23.012
&gt;&gt; HELLO, THIS

00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:30.019
IS IRENE WALL. THE ROLE OF
CITIZEN VOLUNTEER MARKET
HISTORICAL COMMISSION SHOULD

00:56:30.086 --> 00:56:31.988
NOT BE DILUTED AS THIS BILL
WOULD DO. REGARDLESS OF ANY
POSSIBLE GOOD

00:56:32.055 --> 00:56:34.991
INTENTIONS BEHIND THIS PROPOSED
CHANGE, THE RESULTS WOULD BE

00:56:35.058 --> 00:56:39.996
WRONG. THE PANDEMIC OF URGENCY
IS OVER AND TEMPORARY

00:56:40.063 --> 00:56:41.998
ADJUSTMENTS MADE IN THAT
EXTRAORDINARY TIME SHOULD ALSO
BE OVER AND NOT BE

00:56:42.065 --> 00:56:44.000
MADE PERMANENT.

00:56:44.067 --> 00:56:46.002
THE MATTERS IDENTIFIED FOR
ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS ARE NOT
TRIVIAL

00:56:46.069 --> 00:56:52.008
OR WITHOUT POTENTIAL NEGATIVE
IMPACTS ON THE MARKET.

00:56:52.075 --> 00:56:54.010
THE FULL COMMISSION HAS THE
BACKGROUND AND EXPERTISE TO
ENSURE THESE PHYSICAL

00:56:54.077 --> 00:56:57.013
CHANGES ARE MADE SENSITIVELY AND
THIS REQUIRES

00:56:57.080 --> 00:57:01.017
A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF THE
GUIDELINES AND

00:57:01.084 --> 00:57:07.991
PHYSICAL CONTACTS IN THE DIVERSE
AREAS THAT MAKE UP THE MARKET.

00:57:08.057 --> 00:57:09.993
STAFF DOES PLAY AN IMPORTANT
ROLE IN SUPPORTING THE

00:57:10.059 --> 00:57:13.997
MARKET BY HELPING BUSINESSES
PREPARE COMPLETE APPLICATIONS,

00:57:14.063 --> 00:57:14.998
SO THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE
TIMELY DECISIONS, BUT THE
APPROVAL SHOULD

00:57:15.064 --> 00:57:20.003
BE MADE BY THE DELIBERATIVE
BODY,

00:57:20.069 --> 00:57:24.007
NOT THE STAFF. THE CITY'S
OFFICIAL MESSAGING, PARTICULARLY
FOR THE DEPARTMENT

00:57:24.073 --> 00:57:30.013
OF NEIGHBORHOODS, IS TO
ENCOURAGE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT

00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:31.014
IN ALL ASPECTS OF OUR SHARED
CITY LIFE.

00:57:31.080 --> 00:57:33.016
THIS IS EVIDENCED BY YOUR
APPOINTMENT OF TWO HIGHLY
QUALIFIED PERSONS TO

00:57:33.082 --> 00:57:35.018
SERVE ON THE BOARD. DON'T
DISCOURAGE THE

00:57:35.084 --> 00:57:38.988
CITIZEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR
HISTORIC PRESERVATION. NO
HISTORIC

00:57:39.055 --> 00:57:47.997
DISTRICT --

00:57:48.064 --> 00:57:51.000
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

00:57:51.067 --> 00:57:59.008
WE HAVE ONE LAST SPEAKER SIGNED
UP VIRTUALLY. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

00:57:59.075 --> 00:58:03.012
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. HELLO AGAIN, THIS
IS EUGENIA

00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.081
WU.

00:58:05.148 --> 00:58:09.018
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE.

00:58:09.085 --> 00:58:11.020
AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS FOR AN
ORGANIZATION THAT

00:58:11.087 --> 00:58:17.994
OWNS MULTIPLE LANDMARK
PROPERTIES AND WHEN I WORKED AT
THE CITY I

00:58:18.061 --> 00:58:26.002
SEE THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS FROM
BOTH PERSPECTIVES.

00:58:26.069 --> 00:58:27.003
STREAMLINING THE PROCESS IS
HELPFUL TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND
BUSINESS OWNERS.

00:58:27.070 --> 00:58:30.006
AS A PRESERVATION ADVOCATE I AM
ALSO

00:58:30.073 --> 00:58:33.009
AWARE OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE
LEGISLATION EXPRESSED BY

00:58:33.076 --> 00:58:36.012
COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:39.015
TRANSPARENCY AND AN OPEN PUBLIC
PROCESS ARE IMPORTANT TO
EVERYONE,

00:58:39.082 --> 00:58:40.016
PARTICULARLY COMMUNITY MEMBERS
IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND

00:58:40.083 --> 00:58:47.991
THOSE INTERESTED IN THE
STEWARDSHIP OF LANDMARKS.

00:58:48.057 --> 00:58:48.992
PROPOSED CHANGES TO LANDMARKS
AND BUILDINGS IN

00:58:49.058 --> 00:58:53.997
HISTORIC DISTRICTS. HAVING THE
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW

00:58:54.063 --> 00:58:57.000
AND COMMENT IN PUBLIC MEETING IS
IMPORTANT. IF THIS

00:58:57.066 --> 00:59:00.003
LEGISLATION PASSES, I HOPE THE
CITY CONTINUES TO ENGAGE

00:59:00.069 --> 00:59:03.006
WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WITH
APPLICANTS TO ESTABLISH
PROCEDURES

00:59:03.072 --> 00:59:06.009
THAT ARE MORE TRANSPARENT AND
PROVIDE CLARITY

00:59:06.075 --> 00:59:08.011
ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW
PROCESS.

00:59:08.077 --> 00:59:12.015
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
LEGISLATION DOES NOT DO AWAY
WITH COMMISSIONER

00:59:12.081 --> 00:59:19.989
REVIEW --THE ADMINISTRATIVE
REAPPROVAL IS NOT THE SAME FOR
EVERY DISTRICT

00:59:20.056 --> 00:59:22.992
AND LANDMARKS. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.

00:59:23.059 --> 00:59:25.929
I KNOW THIS IS NOT EASY
LEGISLATION TO REVIEW, BUT

00:59:25.995 --> 00:59:26.663
THANK YOU.

00:59:26.729 --> 00:59:31.000
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EUGENIA.
OKAY, WE WILL MOVE TO IN-PERSON

00:59:31.067 --> 00:59:34.003
SPEAKERS.

00:59:34.070 --> 00:59:40.009
THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE IS
DESTINY SON.

00:59:40.076 --> 00:59:48.017
IS NOT HERE.

00:59:48.084 --> 00:59:50.019
I DON'T HAVE YOU FIRST ON MY
LIST, BUT I

00:59:50.086 --> 00:59:54.991
WILL GET TO YOU. THE NEXT PERSON
I HAVE IS GINA, FOLLOWED

00:59:55.058 --> 01:00:00.997
BY MIRANDA.

01:00:01.064 --> 01:00:05.001
&gt;&gt; I THINK WE GOT THE LIST MIXED
UP, BECAUSE

01:00:05.068 --> 01:00:06.936
I WAS VERY FAR BEHIND OTHER
PEOPLE.

01:00:07.003 --> 01:00:09.939
&gt;&gt; EXACTLY.

01:00:10.006 --> 01:00:14.944
&gt;&gt; ANYWAY, I DIDN'T REALLY

01:00:15.011 --> 01:00:17.947
HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, BUT MY
COMMENTS BASICALLY, I HAVE

01:00:18.014 --> 01:00:24.954
BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE HISTORIC
COMMISSION DURING THE WATERFRONT
RESERVATION

01:00:25.021 --> 01:00:28.925
OF THE MARKET AND WE DID

01:00:28.992 --> 01:00:33.930
WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL QUITE A
BIT AND

01:00:33.997 --> 01:00:36.933
WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WITH
THE COMMISSION THAT WE KEPT THE
FLAVOR

01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:38.935
OF THE MARKET.

01:00:39.002 --> 01:00:45.942
KEPT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN
CONSISTENT AND ALSO

01:00:46.009 --> 01:00:48.945
MADE SURE THAT WE REACHED OUT TO
THE CONSTITUENCY

01:00:49.012 --> 01:00:51.948
AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THEIR
LIVING AT THE MARKET TO

01:00:52.015 --> 01:01:00.923
MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKED FOR
EVERYBODY AND I THINK THAT IF

01:01:00.990 --> 01:01:03.926
CITY COUNCIL HAD AN UNDUE
INFLUENCE, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE
AMAZING STRUCTURE

01:01:03.993 --> 01:01:06.929
THAT WE HAVE NOW. A BUNCH OF
CONDOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I
JUST THINK

01:01:06.996 --> 01:01:12.935
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE
HISTORIC COMMISSION STILL

01:01:13.002 --> 01:01:18.941
HAS OVERSIGHT ON ANY KIND OF

01:01:19.008 --> 01:01:21.811
NEW CONSTRUCTION OR
REMEDIATION'S AT THE MARKET.

01:01:21.878 --> 01:01:22.545
THANK YOU.

01:01:22.612 --> 01:01:26.949
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. IT IS ENTIRELY
POSSIBLE

01:01:27.016 --> 01:01:29.952
THAT ALL OF THESE SHEETS GET
MIXED UP.

01:01:30.019 --> 01:01:34.924
I WILL GO WITH MIRANDA, SINCE I
DID CALL YOU AND THEN

01:01:34.991 --> 01:01:36.926
WE WILL START WITH ALEX
TSIMERMAN NEXT.

01:01:36.993 --> 01:01:42.932
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
ATTENTION TODAY.

01:01:42.999 --> 01:01:44.934
I AM A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND
ADVOCATE FOR THE MARKET FOR OVER

01:01:45.001 --> 01:01:47.937
20 YEARS. I STRONGLY RECOMMEND
THAT YOU AMEND

01:01:48.004 --> 01:01:55.945
COUNCIL BILL TO REMOVE SECTION 8
CONCERNING THE PIKE PLACE MARKET
COMMISSION. DECISIONS

01:01:56.012 --> 01:01:57.947
MUST CONTINUE TO BE MADE BY THE
MARKET HISTORICAL COMMISSION
WITH PUBLIC

01:01:58.014 --> 01:02:00.950
OVERSIGHT IN ORDER FOR THE
MARKET TO CONTINUE TO

01:02:01.017 --> 01:02:05.922
MAINTAIN ITS UNIQUE FLAVOR.

01:02:05.988 --> 01:02:07.924
EVERY SEEMINGLY SMALL DECISION
ABOUT THE MARKET CAN AFFECT

01:02:07.990 --> 01:02:09.926
SO MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK,
AND STOP THERE. WHICH IS WHY FOR
OVER

01:02:09.992 --> 01:02:12.929
50 YEARS THE MARKET HAS TRUSTED
THE STEWARDSHIP

01:02:12.995 --> 01:02:16.933
OF THE COMMISSION TO CAREFULLY
MAKE THESE DECISIONS,

01:02:16.999 --> 01:02:21.938
WHILE INVITING INPUT FROM
COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT THE
DECISIONS THAT AFFECT

01:02:22.004 --> 01:02:23.940
THEM DIRECTLY.

01:02:24.006 --> 01:02:25.942
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD
REASON TO TURN ANY OF THESE
DECISIONS

01:02:26.008 --> 01:02:29.946
OVER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT
HAS BEEN THAT WAY

01:02:30.012 --> 01:02:33.950
FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE ARE
NO LONGER IN COVID

01:02:34.016 --> 01:02:36.953
EMERGENCY AND WOULD LIKE THE
DECISION-MAKING PROCESS TO
RETURN

01:02:37.019 --> 01:02:39.922
FULLY TO THE COMMISSION. PLEASE
REMOVE SECTION

01:02:39.989 --> 01:02:46.929
8 FROM COUNCIL BILL 12456 AND
ALLOW THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION
TO

01:02:46.996 --> 01:02:51.934
FULLY ENGAGE WITH ANY PROPOSED
CHANGES AT PIKE PLACE MARKET,

01:02:52.001 --> 01:02:56.372
SO IT CAN REMAIN THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE FOR
YEARS TO

01:02:56.439 --> 01:02:57.473
COME. THANK YOU.

01:02:57.540 --> 01:02:59.876
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. ALEX TSIMERMAN,
FOLLOWED

01:02:59.942 --> 01:03:00.843
BY HALEY LIND.

01:03:00.910 --> 01:03:03.946
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

01:03:04.013 --> 01:03:09.952
&gt;&gt; AND A REMINDER, THIS IS ABOUT
A

01:03:10.019 --> 01:03:15.925
PARTICULAR BILL.

01:03:15.992 --> 01:03:21.931
&gt;&gt; --USE STOP DEMOCRACY

01:03:21.998 --> 01:03:27.937
FASCISTS, MAFIA CARTEL. MY NAME
IS ALEX TSIMERMAN. I LOVE

01:03:28.004 --> 01:03:33.943
THE 750,000 CRETAN, DEGENERATE
--IT IS VERY NICE. I LOVE YOU,
FOR

01:03:34.010 --> 01:03:36.946
35 YEARS. YEAH, YOU ARE DOING
GOOD SERVICE. I LIVED

01:03:37.013 --> 01:03:42.952
BEFORE IN MANY CITIES AND I
NEVER SEE

01:03:43.019 --> 01:03:45.922
ONE SMALL CITY, CIVILIZED CITY,
WHO WILL DESTROY

01:03:45.988 --> 01:03:51.928
DOWNTOWN. YOU DID THIS. YOU
FREAKING

01:03:51.994 --> 01:03:54.931
DEGENERATE IDIOTS.

01:03:54.997 --> 01:04:01.938
DOWNTOWN, NOT TOUCHABLE. THIS
HISTORY. YOU DON'T HAVE HISTORY.

01:04:02.004 --> 01:04:06.008
YOU HAVE IDIOT, 750,000 IDIOTS
WHO ELECT YOU.

01:04:06.075 --> 01:04:13.015
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? FOR
THE LAST 10 YEARS, NEVER

01:04:13.082 --> 01:04:16.018
ONE VOTE STOPPING AMAZON. NOT
ONE VOTE.

01:04:16.085 --> 01:04:19.021
TAXES, TAXES, TAXES.

01:04:19.088 --> 01:04:21.991
WHO FREAKING CARES? WHEN THEY
HAVE BILLIONS.

01:04:22.058 --> 01:04:23.092
YOU IDIOT.

01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:26.796
DOWNTOWN IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE
TOUCHABLE.

01:04:26.862 --> 01:04:34.003
THAT'S IT. YOU DESTROY HISTORY.

01:04:34.070 --> 01:04:37.006
NOT ONLY CRIMINAL, YOUR
PSYCHOPATH. STAND UP AMERICA.

01:04:37.073 --> 01:04:43.012
CLEAR THIS IDIOTIC CHAMBER.

01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.081
&gt;&gt; THE NEXT SPEAKER IS HALEY
LIND, FOLLOWED BY

01:04:45.147 --> 01:04:45.781
LESLIE BUCHER.

01:04:45.848 --> 01:04:49.018
&gt;&gt; HELLO.

01:04:49.085 --> 01:04:57.994
I HAVE WORKED AT THE MARKET FOR
37 YEARS AND I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE

01:04:58.060 --> 01:04:59.996
IN MARKET POLITICS. MOREOVER, IT
IS NOT UNKNOWN FOR ME TO

01:05:00.062 --> 01:05:04.000
SPEAK UP CRITICAL OF MARKET
DECISIONS, BUT HAVING SAID THAT
I WANT TO EXPLAIN

01:05:04.066 --> 01:05:08.004
WHY 120456 IS A BAD IDEA FOR THE
MARKET. ONE OF

01:05:08.070 --> 01:05:10.006
THE REASONS THE MARKET IS
BEAUTIFULLY GOVERNED IS BECAUSE
WHEN MISTAKES

01:05:10.072 --> 01:05:15.011
ARE MADE, WHEN

01:05:15.077 --> 01:05:18.014
PASSION SPILLS, WE KNOW HOW AND
WHERE TO DIRECT OUR ENERGY
BECAUSE THE PEOPLE

01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:22.018
WHO MAKE GOOD AND BAD DECISIONS
ARE RIGHT THERE AND WE KNOW
WHERE TO

01:05:22.084 --> 01:05:25.021
FIND EACH OTHER AND THE ELECTED
AND APPOINTED OFFICERS

01:05:25.087 --> 01:05:27.990
ARE NOT SITTING ON A THRONE
EATING HOMBURG BIRD WINGS OR
BEHIND

01:05:28.057 --> 01:05:30.993
A LOCKED DOOR. WE CAN ATTEND
MEETINGS AND SEE

01:05:31.060 --> 01:05:33.996
THEM ON THE STREET AND THEY
RECOGNIZE US AND WE STOPPED TO

01:05:34.063 --> 01:05:36.999
TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ON OUR MINDS.
SOMETIMES SPEAKING

01:05:37.066 --> 01:05:42.004
TO OUR OFFICERS CREATES SHIFTS
OF UNDERSTANDING.

01:05:42.071 --> 01:05:48.010
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS? SMALL D
DEMOCRACY AND SMALL G
GOVERNMENT.

01:05:48.077 --> 01:05:51.013
IT CAN ONLY HAPPEN WHEN
GOVERNANCE IS ON THE SCALE AND

01:05:51.080 --> 01:05:55.017
IT SHOULD BE THE ENVY OF SEATTLE
AND PRIDE OF CITY HALL FOR
PLACING THEIR

01:05:55.084 --> 01:05:57.019
FAITH IN THE PUBLIC. AS I
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT

01:05:57.086 --> 01:05:59.021
IS WHY THE TDA'S WERE FORMED.
TAKING THIS UNNECESSARY ACTION
WILL LEAVE

01:05:59.088 --> 01:06:02.992
A SOUR AND CYNICAL TASTE IN

01:06:03.059 --> 01:06:05.061
OUR MOUTHS. FRANKLY I DON'T
BELIEVE THIS BILL WAS THE
COUNCIL'S IDEA.

01:06:05.127 --> 01:06:07.997
I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:06:08.064 --> 01:06:09.999
SO RIGHT NOW THE COUNCIL CAN BE
OUR HEROES AND STRIP THE MARKET
HISTORICAL

01:06:10.066 --> 01:06:13.002
COMMISSION FOR THE REASONS I
HAVE STATED FROM

01:06:13.069 --> 01:06:15.004
THIS BILL. IT IS NOT JUST A
POPULAR ACTION, IT

01:06:15.071 --> 01:06:20.009
IS THE RESPONSIBLE ACTION. THANK
YOU.

01:06:20.076 --> 01:06:23.012
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. WE HAVE LESLIE
BUCHER FOLLOWED

01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:29.018
BY JOAN PAULSON.

01:06:29.085 --> 01:06:32.021
&gt;&gt; HELLO, MY NAME IS LESLIE
BUCHER AND I AM A MEMBER

01:06:32.088 --> 01:06:34.990
OF THE PIKE PLACE MARKET
HISTORICAL COMMISSION. I
ENCOURAGE

01:06:35.057 --> 01:06:39.995
YOU TO EXCLUDE THE MARKET FROM
CB 120456 IN ORDER TO PROTECT
FULL PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.

01:06:40.062 --> 01:06:46.001
PRESERVATION OF THE MARKETS
AUTHENTIC CHARACTER.

01:06:46.068 --> 01:06:47.002
A ROLE DELEGATED TO THE
VOLUNTEER PIKE PLACE

01:06:47.069 --> 01:06:52.007
MARKET HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
THE COMMISSION IS MADE UP

01:06:52.074 --> 01:06:53.008
OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND
IT IS IN

01:06:53.075 --> 01:06:57.012
COMMISSION MEETINGS WHERE
DECISIONS ARE MADE ON DESIGN
CHANGES.

01:06:57.079 --> 01:06:59.014
THESE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE
PUBLIC AND ALWAYS PROVIDE THE
OPPORTUNITY

01:06:59.081 --> 01:07:02.017
FOR ANYONE TO SHARE A PUBLIC
COMMENT WITH

01:07:02.084 --> 01:07:05.087
THE GROUP OF UP TO 12
COMMISSIONERS. THEY PUBLICLY
DISCUSS

01:07:05.154 --> 01:07:07.990
AS A GROUP TO DETERMINE IF
CHANGES ALIGN

01:07:08.057 --> 01:07:10.993
WITH ESTABLISHED GUIDELINES.

01:07:11.060 --> 01:07:12.995
IT IS A PROCESS NOT UNLIKE THAT
OF THE SEATTLE

01:07:13.062 --> 01:07:16.999
CITY COUNCIL. HOWEVER, CB 120456
TRANSFERS JURISDICTION OVER

01:07:17.066 --> 01:07:25.007
SOME DESIGN CHANGES TO SEATTLE
STAFF, WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE

01:07:25.074 --> 01:07:27.009
PUBLIC MEETINGS OR INVOLVE THE
HISTORICAL COMMISSION

01:07:27.076 --> 01:07:32.014
IN ANY WAY. THIS EXCLUDES PUBLIC
INVOLVEMENT AND LOSES THE
BENEFIT OF DEBATE

01:07:32.081 --> 01:07:34.016
AND DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSIONS
AND INDIVIDUALS.

01:07:34.083 --> 01:07:37.019
AS THE CITY COUNCIL, IMAGINE IF
SUDDENLY SOME COUNCIL BILL'S
WERE HANDLED BY

01:07:37.086 --> 01:07:39.021
A SINGLE PERSON FROM AN OFFICE
IN OLYMPIA WITHOUT

01:07:39.088 --> 01:07:44.994
YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR INPUT
WHATSOEVER FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT
IS ALARMING

01:07:45.060 --> 01:07:47.997
AND TERRIFYING. IT IS CONFUSING.
IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE, WHY
WOULD THAT

01:07:48.063 --> 01:07:49.999
HAPPEN? WHY WOULD THIS HAPPEN? I
DON'T KNOW. FOR THESE REASONS I
ENCOURAGE

01:07:50.065 --> 01:07:53.002
YOU TO EXCLUDE THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET HISTORIC

01:07:53.068 --> 01:07:59.008
DISTRICT FROM CB 120456.

01:07:59.074 --> 01:08:03.012
&gt;&gt; WE DO HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS
SIGNED UP.

01:08:03.078 --> 01:08:08.017
WE HAVE TWO MICROPHONES, SO I
WILL CALL THE NEXT PERSON AND
THEN

01:08:08.083 --> 01:08:11.020
TWO MORE. THESE BE READY AND
FEEL FREE TO COME AND WAIT AT
THE

01:08:11.086 --> 01:08:14.023
MIC. WE HAVE JOAN PAULSON AND
YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY --

01:08:14.089 --> 01:08:14.990
PLEASE GO AHEAD.

01:08:15.057 --> 01:08:19.995
&gt;&gt; MY NAME IS JOAN PAULSON AND I
HAVE BEEN INVOLVED

01:08:20.062 --> 01:08:25.000
WITH THE PIKE PLACE MARKET SINCE
1970.

01:08:25.067 --> 01:08:29.004
I WISH TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN
ABOUT THE PROPOSED

01:08:29.071 --> 01:08:34.009
COUNCIL BILL 120456 WHICH WILL
HAVE AN

01:08:34.076 --> 01:08:38.013
ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC
MARKET AND ALL

01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:41.016
OTHER HISTORICAL SEATTLE
NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:08:41.083 --> 01:08:44.019
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE POWERS
THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED

01:08:44.086 --> 01:08:46.989
BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS WILL UNDERMINE

01:08:47.056 --> 01:08:54.997
THE STATE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING
ACT,

01:08:55.064 --> 01:08:56.999
GIVING THE OVERSIGHT TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:08:57.066 --> 01:09:03.005
SINCE THE PIKE PLACE MARKET 1971
INITIATIVE, THIS PUBLIC MARKET
HAS REMAINED STRONG

01:09:03.072 --> 01:09:07.009
IN CONTINUING THE MARKET
CHARACTER FOR ALL VISITORS

01:09:07.076 --> 01:09:10.012
IN THE MARKET COMMUNITY AND
ORGANIZATIONS.

01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:17.019
THE PROPOSED CHANGES AS BEING
CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL BILL
120456

01:09:17.086 --> 01:09:25.995
OUR STEPS BACKWARD FOR
PRESERVATION AND OPEN PUBLIC
MEETING ACT, BOTTOM-UP
DECISION-MAKING,

01:09:26.061 --> 01:09:31.000
DECISION MAKING PROGRESS.

01:09:31.066 --> 01:09:35.004
AND THE EFFORTS TO KEEP THE
MARKET PUBLIC. THIS

01:09:35.070 --> 01:09:38.007
PROPOSED POWER TO BE GRANTED TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS

01:09:38.073 --> 01:09:44.013
SHOULD NOT OCCUR FOR THE PUBLIC
MARKET IN OTHER SEATTLE
NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:47.016
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

01:09:47.082 --> 01:09:52.988
&gt;&gt; NEXT WE HAVE -- I APOLOGIZE
IF I AM

01:09:53.055 --> 01:09:58.994
MISPRONOUNCING THAT. OH, OKAY.

01:09:59.061 --> 01:10:06.936
YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY LAUREN
--AND CHRISTINE.

01:10:07.002 --> 01:10:07.937
&gt;&gt; A MORNING, AND WITH THE
ALLIED ARTS REPRESENTATIVE

01:10:08.003 --> 01:10:09.939
ON THE PIKE PLACE MARKET
HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

01:10:10.005 --> 01:10:15.945
THE CITIZENS OF SEATTLE SAVED
THE MARKET FROM

01:10:16.011 --> 01:10:18.948
CITY DECISION-MAKING 50 YEARS
AGO AND HAS STEWARDED THE

01:10:19.014 --> 01:10:22.952
MARKET SUCCESSFULLY EVER SINCE.
NOW THE CITY IS TRYING TO TAKE

01:10:23.018 --> 01:10:25.921
DECISION-MAKING BACK BEHIND
CLOSED DOORS, OUT OF PUBLIC
MEETINGS

01:10:25.988 --> 01:10:28.924
AND PUBLIC PROCESS WITHOUT BEING
ASKED AND WITHOUT LISTENING.

01:10:28.991 --> 01:10:31.927
THE PIKE PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION IS REQUIRED

01:10:31.994 --> 01:10:34.930
BY THE FOUNDING ORDINANCE TO
ADOPT RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR
ITS OWN

01:10:34.997 --> 01:10:40.936
GOVERNMENT AND IS REQUIRED

01:10:41.003 --> 01:10:43.939
TO PROVIDE STAFF ASSISTANCE AND
OTHER SERVICES AS REQUESTED. TO

01:10:44.006 --> 01:10:47.943
BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, THE PIKE
PLACE MARKET

01:10:48.010 --> 01:10:55.951
HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS NEVER
SUGGESTED TO PURSUE ANY OF THESE
AMENDMENTS

01:10:56.018 --> 01:10:57.953
TO ALLOW ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

01:10:58.020 --> 01:11:00.923
NOT DURING THE STATE OF
EMERGENCY AND STILL NOT

01:11:00.990 --> 01:11:04.994
NOW THAT IT IS ENDING. IN FACT
THE COMMISSION HAS

01:11:05.060 --> 01:11:05.928
REPEATEDLY ASKED NOT TO PURSUE
THESE AMENDMENTS UNLESS

01:11:05.995 --> 01:11:10.933
AND UNTIL COMPREHENSIVE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CAN BE
ACHIEVED. WE RECEIVED MANY

01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:13.936
PUBLIC COMMENTS. NONE OF THEM
HAVE BEEN

01:11:14.003 --> 01:11:17.940
IN SUPPORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW. ALL OF THEM

01:11:18.007 --> 01:11:19.942
HAVE BEEN PROPOSED CHANGES.
SINCE THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS IS

01:11:20.009 --> 01:11:23.946
NOT DEMONSTRATING THEIR
LISTENING AND THE LETTER TO

01:11:24.013 --> 01:11:25.948
THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS
HAS GONE UNANSWERED, I AM HERE
NOW TO

01:11:26.015 --> 01:11:28.951
ASK YOU DIRECTLY NOT TO ACCEPT
THESE AMENDMENTS

01:11:29.018 --> 01:11:31.954
TO THE ORDINANCE AND HONOR THE
AUTONOMY AND AUTHORITY CREATED
BY THE CITIZENS.

01:11:32.021 --> 01:11:37.926
WE, AS A CITY, CAN AND SHOULD DO
BETTER. THANK YOU.

01:11:37.993 --> 01:11:42.131
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. LAUREN FOLLOWED BY
CHRISTINE

01:11:42.197 --> 01:11:43.532
--AND GRACE.

01:11:43.599 --> 01:11:51.940
&gt;&gt; I AM AN ARCHITECT AND OWNER
OF

01:11:52.007 --> 01:11:53.942
ROBOT VERSUS LOVE IN THE PIKE
PLACE MARKET AND ALSO

01:11:54.009 --> 01:11:55.944
VICE CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC
COMMISSION.

01:11:56.011 --> 01:12:00.949
I HAVE BEEN A COMMISSIONER FOR
OVER SIX YEARS. I AM

01:12:01.016 --> 01:12:01.950
STANDING BEFORE YOU TO ASK YOU
TO REMOVE THE PIKE PLACE MARKET
FROM

01:12:02.017 --> 01:12:05.020
THIS LEGISLATION.

01:12:05.087 --> 01:12:08.924
THE MARKET HISTORIC COMMISSION,
WHEN FULLY STAFFED, IS MADE OF
12

01:12:08.991 --> 01:12:10.926
DIVERSE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT
EDUCATIONS, DIFFERENT CAREERS

01:12:10.993 --> 01:12:16.932
AND EXPERTISE THAT SERVE WITH
TERM LIMITS. WHEN APPLICATIONS
COME

01:12:16.999 --> 01:12:19.935
THE PROCESS IS TRANSPARENT, OPEN
TO THE PUBLIC AND OFTEN CONSISTS
OF

01:12:20.002 --> 01:12:23.939
HELPFUL CONVERSATIONS TO BETTER
OUR PROJECT.

01:12:24.006 --> 01:12:25.941
UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL
DECISIONS GO BEHIND DOORS WITH
NO PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT

01:12:26.008 --> 01:12:29.945
AND INCREASED CHANCES OF BIAS
AND ARE MADE BY ONE

01:12:30.012 --> 01:12:31.947
PERSON WITH NO TERM LIMITS.
DURING THE PAST FEW YEARS,
DECISIONS WERE

01:12:32.014 --> 01:12:34.416
MADE THE VIOLATE THE GUIDELINES.
THERE

01:12:34.483 --> 01:12:36.852
WERE NO PUBLIC NOTICES FOR
DECISIONS.

01:12:36.919 --> 01:12:40.923
THE PUBLIC COULD NOT

01:12:40.989 --> 01:12:42.925
APPEAL THEM. THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS

01:12:42.991 --> 01:12:46.929
HAS SAID THAT ADMINISTRATIVE
APPROVAL WOULD HELP

01:12:46.995 --> 01:12:49.932
THE TIME BEFORE THE COMMISSION,
BUT SINCE ADMINISTRATIVE

01:12:49.998 --> 01:12:52.935
APPROVAL HAS BEEN IN USE, THEY
HAVE REPEATEDLY TOLD THAT SHE IS
TOO

01:12:53.001 --> 01:12:57.940
BUSY TO ENFORCE ANY OF THE
HISTORIC GUIDELINE VIOLATIONS.
ADDING

01:12:58.006 --> 01:13:00.943
ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL MEANS
THEY HAVE NEGLECTED ENFORCEMENT
OF THE

01:13:01.009 --> 01:13:05.013
GUIDELINES. YOU CAN SEE THIS
WITH THE

01:13:05.080 --> 01:13:07.950
A-FRAMES AND REMODELS IN THE
MARKET WITHOUT REVIEW. I WOULD
LIKE

01:13:08.016 --> 01:13:13.922
TO ASK YOU TO REMOVE

01:13:13.989 --> 01:13:16.925
PIKE PLACE MARKET FROM THIS
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.

01:13:16.992 --> 01:13:20.929
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

01:13:20.996 --> 01:13:22.931
&gt;&gt; CHRISTINE VAUGHN, GRACE LONG
AND GILLIAN GERMAN.

01:13:22.998 --> 01:13:28.937
&gt;&gt; THIS IS CHRISTINE VAUGHN.

01:13:29.004 --> 01:13:31.940
I AM A 32 YEARS CRAFTSPERSON AT
THE MARKET.

01:13:32.007 --> 01:13:33.942
I SERVED FOR EIGHT YEARS AND
MOST RECENTLY I

01:13:34.009 --> 01:13:39.948
WAS 7 1/2 YEARS ON THE
COMMISSION.

01:13:40.015 --> 01:13:40.949
THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE
COMMISSION.

01:13:41.016 --> 01:13:42.951
THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
KEEPS

01:13:43.018 --> 01:13:45.954
MINUTES OF THE COMMISSION. THEY
ARE NOT ALWAYS PRESENTED IN A

01:13:46.021 --> 01:13:47.923
TIMELY FASHION. THE DEPARTMENT
OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S

01:13:47.990 --> 01:13:52.928
NOMINEES AND FORWARDS THEIR
NAMES TO THE MAYOR. ALTHOUGH IN
THE

01:13:52.995 --> 01:13:59.935
TIMES I SERVED ON THE
COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION WAS
RARELY AT FULL STRENGTH.

01:14:00.002 --> 01:14:02.938
THERE ARE NOW SEVEN MEMBERS ON
WHAT SHOULD BE

01:14:03.005 --> 01:14:06.008
A 12 MEMBER BOARD. ONE SEAT IN
PARTICULAR HAS BEEN VACANT FOR

01:14:06.074 --> 01:14:09.011
SIX YEARS. THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS

01:14:09.077 --> 01:14:12.014
FACILITATES FORMALIZING CHANGES
TO THE GUIDELINES WHEN THE
COMMISSION

01:14:12.080 --> 01:14:15.017
WANTS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

01:14:15.083 --> 01:14:18.020
HOWEVER, THE CURRENT --THE
CHANGES MOST CURRENTLY
RECOMMENDED

01:14:18.086 --> 01:14:23.992
BY THE COMMISSION HAVE BEEN
STUCK IN THE DEPARTMENT

01:14:24.059 --> 01:14:25.994
OF NEIGHBORHOODS FOR FOUR YEARS
AND THE RECENT CHANGES,

01:14:26.061 --> 01:14:32.000
WHICH HAVE BEEN WRITTEN AND
APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION,
INCLUDE A STATEMENT

01:14:32.067 --> 01:14:34.002
OF COMMITMENT TO RACIAL EQUITY
THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRED

01:14:34.069 --> 01:14:39.007
THE COMMISSION ADD TO ITS
GUIDELINES IN 2015. THERE IS NO
DOUBT

01:14:39.074 --> 01:14:43.011
THAT COVID EXACERBATED THESE
PROBLEMS, BUT THEY PREDATED
COVID. MAY I

01:14:43.078 --> 01:14:48.016
RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST THAT A
BETTER USE OF TIME IS THE

01:14:48.083 --> 01:14:52.020
IMPROVEMENT WITH THE
RESPONSIBILITY THAT IT ALREADY
HAS, RATHER THAN INSERTING

01:14:52.087 --> 01:14:56.992
DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY THE
VOTERS OF SEATTLE GRANTED TO

01:14:57.059 --> 01:14:59.995
THE COMMISSION WHEN THEY VOTED
TO SAVE THE MARKET

01:15:00.062 --> 01:15:02.998
IN 1971. PLEASE AMEND THIS BILL
TO REMOVE

01:15:03.065 --> 01:15:07.002
SECTION 8. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:15:07.069 --> 01:15:15.010
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. GRACE LONG,
FOLLOWED BY GILLIAN SHERMAN AND
CYNTHIA MOUNCE.

01:15:15.077 --> 01:15:21.016
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I
AM A COMMUNITY MEMBER,

01:15:21.083 --> 01:15:24.019
A MEMBER OF THE MARKET HISTORIC
COMMISSION

01:15:24.086 --> 01:15:27.990
AND AN ARCHITECT. I DO NOT HAVE
PREPARED COMMENTS, BUT I WANT TO
NOTE

01:15:28.056 --> 01:15:29.992
THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE FROM
THE COMMUNITY AT THIS MEETING
WHO HAVE

01:15:30.058 --> 01:15:32.995
TAKEN TIME OUT OF THEIR DAYS WHO
ARE NOT WORKING

01:15:33.061 --> 01:15:35.998
RIGHT NOW AND REALLY FEEL THAT
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT

01:15:36.064 --> 01:15:39.001
ISSUE. I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER
THIS AMENDMENT AS DESCRIBED

01:15:39.067 --> 01:15:45.007
BY MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THANK
YOU.

01:15:45.073 --> 01:15:51.013
&gt;&gt; GILLIAN SHERMAN FOLLOWED BY

01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:52.614
CINDY MOUNCE AND THEN

01:15:52.681 --> 01:15:54.483
ELAINE, THEN JOHN CHANEY.

01:15:54.549 --> 01:16:01.990
&gt;&gt; GOOD MORNING,

01:16:02.057 --> 01:16:09.998
MY NAME IS LILLIAN SHERMAN, THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PIKE
PLACE MARKET FOUNDATION.

01:16:10.065 --> 01:16:12.000
40 YEARS AGO THE FOUNDATION WAS
ESTABLISHED TO FULFILL THE
MARKETS HISTORIC CHARTER

01:16:12.067 --> 01:16:17.005
TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE
TRADITIONS AND DIVERSITY

01:16:17.072 --> 01:16:18.006
OF THE PIKE PLACE MARKET
COMMUNITY.

01:16:18.073 --> 01:16:23.011
WE TAKE OUR PURPOSE OF NURTURING
THIS VIBRANT, ONE-OF-A-KIND
COMMUNITY

01:16:23.078 --> 01:16:25.013
VERY SERIOUSLY. SUPPORTING
NEIGHBORS WHO PARTICIPATE IN

01:16:25.080 --> 01:16:28.016
SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS, THE
FARMERS, THE MERCHANTS, ARTISTS,

01:16:28.083 --> 01:16:35.991
RESIDENTS, AND FAMILIES WHO MAKE
UP THE MARKET, THE SOUL OF
SEATTLE.

01:16:36.058 --> 01:16:37.993
WORKING IN THIS COMMUNITY TAKES
DILIGENT COMMITMENT

01:16:38.060 --> 01:16:40.996
TO COLLABORATION AND
COMMUNICATION.

01:16:41.063 --> 01:16:45.000
A SILENT COMMUNITY IS NOT EVER
WHAT THIS MARKET

01:16:45.067 --> 01:16:47.002
HAS BEEN.

01:16:47.069 --> 01:16:49.004
AND AS THE COMMUNITIES
FOUNDATION, IT

01:16:49.071 --> 01:16:54.009
IS OUR JOB TO ELEVATE AND
AMPLIFY THIS VERY ACTIVE
COMMUNITY VOICE.

01:16:54.076 --> 01:16:56.011
THIS COUNCIL BILL DISCARDS THE
DEEPLY HELD

01:16:56.078 --> 01:17:03.018
VALUE OF ACTIVE COMMUNITY
PARTICIPATION AND I STRONGLY

01:17:03.085 --> 01:17:05.087
URGE YOU, THE COUNCIL, TO LISTEN
TO WHAT

01:17:05.153 --> 01:17:08.991
THE COMMUNITY IS TELLING YOU
LOUD AND CLEAR AND ALLOW THEIR
VOICE TO

01:17:09.057 --> 01:17:11.994
CONTINUE TO BE HEARD.

01:17:12.060 --> 01:17:16.999
THANK YOU.

01:17:17.065 --> 01:17:18.934
&gt;&gt; CINDY MOUNCE, FOLLOWED BY
JOHN CHANEY

01:17:19.001 --> 01:17:20.102
AND THEN ELAINE SPENCER.

01:17:20.168 --> 01:17:24.006
&gt;&gt; HI, I AM CINDY MOUNCE AND I
JUST

01:17:24.072 --> 01:17:27.009
WANT TO BACKUP ALL OF MY
COLLEAGUES AND PEERS

01:17:27.075 --> 01:17:32.014
HERE AND LET YOU KNOW THAT

01:17:32.080 --> 01:17:35.017
WE HAVE THIS COVERED. AND I KNOW
THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR HANDS

01:17:35.083 --> 01:17:41.990
FULL, TOO. I AM FRIENDS WITH THE
MARKET AND BEYOND THAT I AM
FAMILY WITH THE MARKET.

01:17:42.057 --> 01:17:46.995
WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP
THIS

01:17:47.062 --> 01:17:53.001
IN OUR HANDS AND WE APPRECIATE
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

01:17:53.068 --> 01:17:57.005
&gt;&gt; JOHN CHANEY, FOLLOWED BY
ELAINE SPENCER AND

01:17:57.072 --> 01:18:00.008
MAGGIE HAYNES.

01:18:00.075 --> 01:18:03.011
&gt;&gt; 50 YEARS AGO THE PEOPLE OF
SEATTLE GOT ORGANIZED UNDER THE
LEADERSHIP

01:18:03.078 --> 01:18:09.017
TO SAVE THE PIKE PLACE MARKET
FROM GENTRIFICATION.

01:18:09.084 --> 01:18:12.020
THE PIKE PLACE MARKET IS A
SEATTLE TREASURE.

01:18:12.087 --> 01:18:14.990
IT IS FOR EVERYONE, THE SENIOR
CITIZEN LIVING ON

01:18:15.057 --> 01:18:17.993
A PENSION, TO A THRIFT SHOP
STORE. A MATRON LIVING

01:18:18.060 --> 01:18:23.999
IN THE HIGHLANDS MIGHT GO THERE

01:18:24.066 --> 01:18:25.000
TO BUY 20 ARTICHOKES FOR HER
DINNER PARTY.

01:18:25.067 --> 01:18:27.002
THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE PIKE
PLACE MARKET IS THAT IT IS FOR
EVERYONE

01:18:27.069 --> 01:18:33.008
AND WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

01:18:33.075 --> 01:18:36.011
THE MARKET IS THE SOUL OF
SEATTLE TO ENSURE THAT THE
MARKET

01:18:36.078 --> 01:18:41.016
STAYS THAT WAY. WE NEED CAREFUL
PLANNING AND LONG-TERM PLANNING.

01:18:41.083 --> 01:18:45.020
THE PIKE PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION MUST BE PART

01:18:45.087 --> 01:18:50.992
OF THIS AND MUST APPROVE A
DECISION BEING CONSIDERED.
WITHOUT THIS,

01:18:51.059 --> 01:18:55.997
I FEAR THE MARKET WILL BE LOST.

01:18:56.064 --> 01:18:56.998
WE NEED OUR CITY COUNCIL TO BE
FAIR AND INCLUSIVE OF SEATTLE
RESIDENTS.

01:18:57.065 --> 01:19:00.001
NO SECRET MEETINGS. THIS NEEDS
TO BE

01:19:00.068 --> 01:19:06.007
OPEN TO ALL OF US.

01:19:06.074 --> 01:19:09.010
IT IS NOT A SECRET THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE FEEL THAT THREE QUARTERS

01:19:09.077 --> 01:19:12.013
OF THE CITY COUNCIL ARE NOT
DOING A GOOD JOB. PROVE TO THEM

01:19:12.080 --> 01:19:20.989
THEY ARE WRONG.

01:19:21.056 --> 01:19:26.995
MAY HAVE THIS MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION APPROVAL? THANK YOU.

01:19:27.062 --> 01:19:37.005
&gt;&gt; MY NAME IS JOHN CHANEY AND I
WILL PROBABLY

01:19:37.072 --> 01:19:40.008
SKIP DEFERENCE TO AGE, EVEN
THOUGH I AM GETTING THERE. I
WAS, FOR 10

01:19:40.075 --> 01:19:42.010
YEARS, ADMINISTRATOR OF THE
HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN THE
SEATTLE OF SEATTLE

01:19:42.077 --> 01:19:45.013
AND ANOTHER 15 YEARS --I BELIEVE
THAT LOOKING AT

01:19:45.080 --> 01:19:48.016
THIS LEGISLATION THAT IT HAS NOT
ACHIEVED

01:19:48.083 --> 01:19:51.019
THE REQUIRED TRANSPARENCY THAT
IS NEEDED FOR THE
DECISION-MAKING

01:19:51.086 --> 01:19:53.989
THAT WOULD BE GIVEN TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:19:54.055 --> 01:19:59.995
THE EASIEST THING THAT YOU COULD
DO IS TO DO NOTHING,

01:20:00.061 --> 01:20:05.000
BECAUSE THE CURRENT PROCESS
WOULD JUST

01:20:05.066 --> 01:20:08.937
EXPIRE, BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER
COVID, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE ARE
MOVING OUT

01:20:09.004 --> 01:20:11.940
OF. HOWEVER, IF YOU CHOOSE TO
MOVE FORWARD, I THINK

01:20:12.007 --> 01:20:16.945
THAT THE ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY
NEEDS TO BE

01:20:17.012 --> 01:20:20.949
THOROUGHLY ADDRESSED AND IS NOT
IN THIS BILL. TWO AREAS ARE

01:20:21.016 --> 01:20:23.952
REALLY IMPORTANT. ONE IS THE
CHANGES TO RIGHT AWAY.

01:20:24.019 --> 01:20:26.922
THE BIGGEST PROPERTY OWNER IN
THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS

01:20:26.988 --> 01:20:30.926
THE SEA OF --THE CITY

01:20:30.992 --> 01:20:32.928
OF SEATTLE. LAND, STREETS,
PARKS.

01:20:32.994 --> 01:20:34.930
ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE MOVED
DECISION-MAKING AWAY

01:20:34.996 --> 01:20:40.936
FROM THE VOLUNTEER BOARD FOLKS
WITHIN THE CITY FAMILY. I THINK
THAT IS

01:20:41.002 --> 01:20:46.942
A MISTAKE. THE SECOND ONE IS THE
ISSUE OF SEISMIC,

01:20:47.008 --> 01:20:49.945
WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE CURRENT
COVID REGULATIONS.

01:20:50.011 --> 01:20:56.952
SEISMIC CAN MAKE HUGE IMPACTS ON
HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND THEREFORE
NEEDS TO BE CAREFULLY CONSIDERED

01:20:57.018 --> 01:20:59.921
AND HOW IT IS INCLUDED IN THE
ORDINANCE TODAY

01:20:59.988 --> 01:21:08.930
MAKES NO ALLOWANCE FOR HISTORIC
FABRIC. THANK YOU.

01:21:08.997 --> 01:21:14.936
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. ELAINE SPENCER,
MAGGIE HAYNES AND THEN JOHNNY --

01:21:15.003 --> 01:21:16.938
&gt;&gt; MY NAME IS ELAINE SPENCER AND
I AM

01:21:17.005 --> 01:21:20.942
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS OF
THE MARKET. WE ASK YOU TO

01:21:21.009 --> 01:21:26.948
REMOVE PIKE PLACE MARKET FROM CB
120456 AND LEAVE THE HISTORICAL
COMMISSION

01:21:27.015 --> 01:21:38.927
WITH THE AUTHORITY IT HAS HAD
SINCE 1971.

01:21:38.994 --> 01:21:40.929
ASK YOURSELVES, WHY ARE WE EVEN
THINKING ABOUT MESSING WITH

01:21:40.996 --> 01:21:42.931
SUCCESS? FOR 50 YEARS THE PIKE
PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION HAS GUIDED

01:21:42.998 --> 01:21:45.934
THE MARKET THROUGH TWO MAJOR
STRUCTURAL RENOVATIONS.

01:21:46.001 --> 01:21:49.938
THROUGH THE CREATION OF 336
UNITS

01:21:50.005 --> 01:21:51.940
OF MOSTLY SUBSIDIZED AND SENIOR
HOUSING.

01:21:52.007 --> 01:21:55.944
THROUGH THE MARKET FRONT PROJECT
AND THROUGH THE

01:21:56.011 --> 01:21:57.946
EVOLUTION OF DOZENS OF VENDORS
IN THE MARKET, ALL WHILE
MAINTAINING

01:21:58.013 --> 01:22:02.951
THE ORIGINAL CHARACTER

01:22:03.018 --> 01:22:06.921
OF THE MARKET AND ITS STATUS AS
THE MOST VISITED ATTRACTION

01:22:06.988 --> 01:22:12.927
IN SEATTLE. ALONE IN DOWNTOWN IT
EMERGED FROM THE PANDEMIC

01:22:12.994 --> 01:22:16.931
ESSENTIALLY UNSCATHED.

01:22:16.998 --> 01:22:21.936
IT IS TODAY THE MOST VIBRANT
PART OF SEATTLE. YOU MAY ASK,

01:22:22.003 --> 01:22:30.945
OUR DECISION --ISSUES
SPECIFICALLY SUITED TO STAFF.

01:22:31.012 --> 01:22:34.949
IN THE MARKET, THE ANSWER IS NO.

01:22:35.016 --> 01:22:36.951
THE MARKET HAS UNDERGONE A
SIGNIFICANT SEISMIC RETROFIT AND
WHAT WE HAVE

01:22:37.018 --> 01:22:39.921
LEARNED, THAT CAN BE EITHER
ENORMOUSLY DISRUPTIVE

01:22:39.988 --> 01:22:42.924
OR SEAMLESS.

01:22:42.991 --> 01:22:45.927
RELEGATING THE COMMISSION TO
SIGNAGE, WALL COLORS, APPROVAL
OF

01:22:45.994 --> 01:22:50.932
NEW VENDORS, WOULD HAVE GUTTED
THE HEART

01:22:50.999 --> 01:22:54.936
OF THE COMMISSION'S WORK AND
PAST PROJECTS AND RISKS

01:22:55.003 --> 01:22:57.939
DOING SO AGAIN.

01:22:58.006 --> 01:23:03.945
&gt;&gt; MAGGIE HAYNES, FOLLOWED BY

01:23:04.012 --> 01:23:05.013
JOHNNY --AND THEN CHRISTOPHER
MARTIN.

01:23:05.080 --> 01:23:08.950
&gt;&gt; I AM ON THE BOARD OF THE
FRIENDS OF

01:23:09.017 --> 01:23:10.952
THE MARKET. I REQUEST THAT YOU
REMOVE THE

01:23:11.019 --> 01:23:13.922
MARKET FROM THE PROPOSED
LEGISLATION AS WELL AND I

01:23:13.988 --> 01:23:21.930
SUPPORT WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
SAID.

01:23:21.996 --> 01:23:27.936
THE MARKET WAS SAVED IN 1971 AND
THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION WAS
CREATED

01:23:28.002 --> 01:23:31.940
AT THAT TIME BY INITIATIVE, BY A
VOTE AND BY THE WILL OF THE

01:23:32.006 --> 01:23:35.944
PEOPLE OF SEATTLE. IT SEEMS IT
WOULD BE EGREGIOUS

01:23:36.010 --> 01:23:38.947
TO REMOVE THIS FROM WHAT THE
PEOPLE HAVE SAID

01:23:39.013 --> 01:23:45.954
AND WHAT THEY WISH TO CONTINUE.
THANK YOU.

01:23:46.020 --> 01:23:48.923
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

01:23:48.990 --> 01:23:59.934
JOHNNY --

01:24:00.001 --> 01:24:01.936
&gt;&gt; MY NAME IS JOHNNY HAWN AND I
HAVE BEEN

01:24:02.003 --> 01:24:02.937
A MARKET STREET PERFORMER FOR 36
YEARS.

01:24:03.004 --> 01:24:07.008
CONCERNING COUNCIL BILL 120456,
I HAVE TO ASK,

01:24:07.075 --> 01:24:13.014
WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE TODAY?

01:24:13.081 --> 01:24:15.016
WHAT IS THE CONSTITUENCY THAT
WILL BENEFIT FROM

01:24:15.083 --> 01:24:17.018
THIS LEGISLATION THAT WILL STRIP
THE COMMISSION OF ITS ROLE

01:24:17.085 --> 01:24:18.019
IN PRESERVING THE MARKETS
CHARACTER?

01:24:18.086 --> 01:24:20.021
IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE ANY OF US
WHO LIVE OR

01:24:20.088 --> 01:24:22.991
WORK IN THE MARKET OR HAVE GROWN
TO LOVE THE MARKET OVER THE
YEARS.

01:24:23.057 --> 01:24:30.999
WHAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY
PROMPTED SEATTLE CITY OFFICIALS
TO EVEN CONSIDER SUCH

01:24:31.065 --> 01:24:34.002
A POWER PLAY? IS THERE AN
EMERGENCY IN THE FUNCTION OF THE
HISTORIC COMMISSION

01:24:34.068 --> 01:24:38.006
THAT NONE OF US KNOW ABOUT? I
DON'T THINK SO. MORE TO

01:24:38.072 --> 01:24:40.008
THE POINT THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
AND WILL ALWAYS BE INDIVIDUALS,
MAYORS

01:24:40.074 --> 01:24:43.011
OR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DRIVEN
BY THE NEED TO CARVE OUT
FIEFDOMS

01:24:43.077 --> 01:24:49.017
FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN
SATISFYING THE NEED TO CONTROL.

01:24:49.083 --> 01:24:51.019
I HAVE NO DOUBT, WERE HE STILL
ALIVE, WHERE

01:24:51.085 --> 01:24:57.992
VICTOR STEINBERG WOULD STAND ON
THIS ISSUE.

01:24:58.059 --> 01:25:00.995
IT IS ALL ABOUT PRESERVING THE
MARKET FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF

01:25:01.062 --> 01:25:01.996
THE REGION, FOR THE LIVING AND
FUTURE SITUATIONS

01:25:02.063 --> 01:25:05.066
AND IT IS CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
AND OVERSIGHT. HE WAS AN
EXEMPLAR

01:25:05.133 --> 01:25:09.003
OF SMALL D DEMOCRACY AND WE CAN
DO NO LESS THAN TO FOLLOW IN

01:25:09.070 --> 01:25:13.007
HIS FOOTSTEPS AND CONTINUE TO
STAND UP FOR PRESERVING THE
MARKET

01:25:13.074 --> 01:25:16.010
CHARACTER AND WE DO SO IN BROAD
DAYLIGHT. I CALL ON THE CITY

01:25:16.077 --> 01:25:23.017
COUNCIL TO REJECT THIS ATTEMPT
AT CODIFYING

01:25:23.084 --> 01:25:25.019
THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS FOR
THE MARKETS FUTURE. LET THE
HISTORIC COMMISSION

01:25:25.086 --> 01:25:27.021
WITH NO FANFARE CONTINUED TO
EFFECTIVELY,

01:25:27.088 --> 01:25:30.992
COHERENTLY, AND SENSIBLY CARRY
ON ITS MISSION.

01:25:31.059 --> 01:25:36.998
&gt;&gt; CHRISTOPHER MARTIN. &gt;&gt; MY
NAME IS CHRISTOPHER MARTIN

01:25:37.065 --> 01:25:40.001
AND I LIVE AT THE LA SALLE
APARTMENTS IN THE

01:25:40.068 --> 01:25:42.003
PIKE PLACE MARKET. I AM HERE TO
ADD MY VOICE IN FAVOR OF
ALLOWING DISABLED

01:25:42.070 --> 01:25:46.007
RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS OF
THE MARKET TO

01:25:46.074 --> 01:25:50.011
PROVIDE INPUT TO THE 88 UPGRADES
AT THE

01:25:50.078 --> 01:25:55.016
PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE MARKET
HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO HELP
MAKE THE AREA MORE INCLUSIVE

01:25:55.083 --> 01:26:02.991
AND EQUITABLE FOR EVERYONE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

01:26:03.057 --> 01:26:05.994
&gt;&gt; OKAY, SORRY, I AM LOSING
TRACK OF WHERE

01:26:06.060 --> 01:26:09.998
WE ARE. DUNCAN, FOLLOWED BY
SARAH PATTON.

01:26:10.064 --> 01:26:13.001
AND EV --

01:26:13.067 --> 01:26:16.004
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO
SPEAK TODAY.

01:26:16.070 --> 01:26:19.007
I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF THE
FRIENDS

01:26:19.073 --> 01:26:25.013
OF THE MARKET. WITH MY FIRM, SRT
PARTNERSHIP, I WAS HONORED

01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:28.016
TO BE THE ARCHITECT IN CHARGE OF
THE RENOVATIONS OF THE MARKET
THAT WERE

01:26:28.082 --> 01:26:31.019
APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2008.
WITH THAT BILL,

01:26:31.085 --> 01:26:33.988
THAT PROPOSITION, THE CITY OF
SEATTLE ENTRUSTED HER TEAM

01:26:34.055 --> 01:26:39.994
AT $73 MILLION TO IMPROVE AND
MODERNIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE

01:26:40.061 --> 01:26:43.998
OF THE MARKET, DO SEISMIC
UPGRADES TO THE CORE BUILDINGS,
AND

01:26:44.065 --> 01:26:51.005
IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY. ALL OF
THESE MATTERS ARE NOW OPPOSED
ONLY

01:26:51.072 --> 01:26:54.008
FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW. I
THINK EVERYONE WOULD AGREE THAT
OUR PROJECT

01:26:54.075 --> 01:26:56.010
DESERVES TO BE IN THE FULL LIGHT
OF DAY AND I BELIEVE THE
HISTORICAL COMMISSION

01:26:56.077 --> 01:27:01.015
NEEDS TO RETAIN THAT POWER.
THROUGH ALMOST FIVE YEARS

01:27:01.082 --> 01:27:07.021
-- AND THEIR INPUT LED TO THE
SUCCESS

01:27:07.088 --> 01:27:08.990
OF OUR PROGRAM.

01:27:09.057 --> 01:27:12.994
THE BRIEFING FOR THE BILL
SUGGESTS THAT ADMINISTRATIVE
APPROVAL WILL

01:27:13.061 --> 01:27:22.003
ONLY BE FOR MINOR MANNERS.

01:27:22.070 --> 01:27:25.006
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A MINOR
SEISMIC IMPROVEMENT WHAT
BUILDING

01:27:25.073 --> 01:27:29.010
WOULD BE. THAT SORT OF WORK
ALWAYS INVOLVES TEARING UP THE
STRUCTURE, DIGGING

01:27:29.077 --> 01:27:31.012
UP THE FOUNDATIONS. HEAVILY
INVASIVE WORK. THE HISTORICAL
COMMISSION HAS

01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:34.015
DONE A BRILLIANT JOB FOR 51
YEARS, ALMOST

01:27:34.082 --> 01:27:37.018
AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ALIVE.
LET THEM KEEP DOING THE

01:27:37.085 --> 01:27:37.919
JOB.

01:27:37.986 --> 01:27:40.488
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:27:40.555 --> 01:27:48.997
&gt;&gt; SARAH PATTON FOLLOWED BY --

01:27:49.063 --> 01:27:52.000
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME
IS SARAH

01:27:52.066 --> 01:27:54.002
PATTON. I STARTED AS A VOLUNTEER
FOR FRIENDS

01:27:54.068 --> 01:27:57.005
OF THE MARKET WHEN I WAS 15
YEARS OLD, IN 1964.

01:27:57.071 --> 01:28:00.008
MANY YEARS LATER I SERVED ON THE
HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR MOST
OF

01:28:00.074 --> 01:28:07.015
A DECADE AND CHAIRED THE
COMMISSION DURING THE SEISMIC
RETROFITS

01:28:07.081 --> 01:28:10.018
IN 2013.

01:28:10.084 --> 01:28:13.021
I AM HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO
TAKE THE MARKET

01:28:13.087 --> 01:28:15.990
OUT OF COUNCIL BILL 12456. THE
COUNCIL BILL WOULD

01:28:16.057 --> 01:28:18.993
ALLOW CITY STAFF TO MAKE
DECISIONS ON APPLICATIONS IN
NUMEROUS CATEGORIES

01:28:19.060 --> 01:28:24.999
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. THESE
CATEGORIES

01:28:25.066 --> 01:28:28.002
MAY APPEAR ON THE SURFACE TO BE
MINOR, BUT YOU HAVE HEARD HOW
SUCH APPARENTLY

01:28:28.069 --> 01:28:31.005
MINOR CHANGES CAN BE CRUCIAL TO
THE PRESERVATION OF

01:28:31.072 --> 01:28:37.011
THE MARKET.

01:28:37.078 --> 01:28:38.379
IF THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS,

01:28:38.446 --> 01:28:39.480
NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE
THEM.

01:28:39.547 --> 01:28:43.017
THE MARKET HISTORICAL COMMISSION
GUIDELINES PROHIBIT

01:28:43.084 --> 01:28:47.989
FRANCHISES AND CHAINS IN THE
MARKET, UNLESS OF COURSE THE
CHAIN ORIGINATED

01:28:48.056 --> 01:28:48.990
WITH THE MARKET, HENCE
STARBUCKS.

01:28:49.057 --> 01:28:54.996
BUT THE COMMISSION IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING OUT
CHAINS, SO NO BURGER

01:28:55.063 --> 01:29:00.001
KING IN THE MARKET. SAYING NO TO
A BIG BUSINESS

01:29:00.068 --> 01:29:01.002
IS A SERIOUS RESPONSIBILITY. THE
MARKET HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS
HANDLED

01:29:01.069 --> 01:29:04.005
THAT RESPONSIBILITY EFFICIENTLY,
EFFECTIVELY,

01:29:04.072 --> 01:29:07.008
AND PUBLICLY FOR MORE THAN 50
YEARS.

01:29:07.075 --> 01:29:13.014
PLEASE TAKE THE MARKET OUT OF
THIS COUNCIL BILL. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.

01:29:13.081 --> 01:29:19.020
&gt;&gt; PLEASE GO AHEAD.

01:29:19.087 --> 01:29:20.988
&gt;&gt; HI, I AM PRESIDENT OF FRANCE
OF THE

01:29:21.055 --> 01:29:24.992
MARKET. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AN
OVERVIEW OF THE FRIENDS VIEW ON
COUNCIL BILL

01:29:25.059 --> 01:29:30.998
120456. THIS BILL AFFECTS THE
AUTHORITY OF

01:29:31.065 --> 01:29:33.000
PIKE PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION

01:29:33.067 --> 01:29:36.003
AND TRANSFERS THE AUTHORITY ON
CERTAIN MATTERS TO THE
DEPARTMENT

01:29:36.070 --> 01:29:40.007
OF NEIGHBORHOODS. I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THE COMMISSION,

01:29:40.074 --> 01:29:42.009
WHERE IT CAME FROM, WHY IT WORKS
WELL AND WHY

01:29:42.076 --> 01:29:43.010
IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE
REGULATORY AUTHORITY IN THE
MARKET. THE MARKET

01:29:43.077 --> 01:29:46.013
HISTORICAL COMMISSION WAS
ESTABLISHED BY THE CITIZENS
INITIATIVE

01:29:46.080 --> 01:29:49.016
THAT ESTABLISHED THE DISTRICT IN
1971.

01:29:49.083 --> 01:29:52.019
IT WAS DESIGNED AS A WAY TO
ESTABLISH DEMOCRATIC COMMUNITY

01:29:52.086 --> 01:29:54.989
CONTROL AT THE MARKET.

01:29:55.056 --> 01:29:59.994
THE MARKET REGULATES, MAKES
BINDING REGULATIONS

01:30:00.061 --> 01:30:02.997
ON CHANGES IN DESIGN AND USE IN
THE MARKET. IT DOES ITS WORK IN
PUBLIC.

01:30:03.064 --> 01:30:06.934
MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED BY THE
MAYOR FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE

01:30:07.001 --> 01:30:09.937
A DEMONSTRATED SYMPATHY WITH THE
PURPOSES

01:30:10.004 --> 01:30:12.940
OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE
VARIOUS INTERESTS AND EXPERIENCE
OF

01:30:13.007 --> 01:30:15.943
COMMISSION VOLUNTEERS HAVE
ENABLED THE COMMISSION TO BE
SUCCESSFUL IN

01:30:16.010 --> 01:30:19.947
REGULATING CHANGES DURING TWO
LARGE-SCALE INNOVATIONS

01:30:20.014 --> 01:30:22.950
IN THE MARKET. FIRST IN THE
1970S AND

01:30:23.017 --> 01:30:25.953
80s AND LATER IN 2008 TO 2010.
THE COMMISSION'S

01:30:26.020 --> 01:30:29.924
WORK HAS KEPT THE MARKET
MAINTAINING

01:30:29.991 --> 01:30:35.930
ITS CHARACTER AS A PLACE WHERE
YOU CAN STILL MEET THE PRODUCER.

01:30:35.997 --> 01:30:37.932
WITH THE NECESSARY ROBUST STAFF
SUPPORT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS

01:30:37.999 --> 01:30:40.935
HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM,
THE COMMISSION CAN CONTINUE

01:30:41.002 --> 01:30:45.940
TO BE A SUCCESS AT DOING ITS
JOB. PLEASE AMEND

01:30:46.007 --> 01:30:49.944
COUNCIL BILL 120456 TO REMOVE
SECTION 8

01:30:50.011 --> 01:30:55.950
WHICH REDUCES THE AUTHORITY OF
THE PIKE PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL

01:30:56.017 --> 01:30:56.951
COMMISSION. THANK YOU.

01:30:57.018 --> 01:30:59.954
&gt;&gt; SAM VERRAZZANO. YOU ARE DONE?
OKAY.

01:31:00.021 --> 01:31:04.992
SO, THAT IS ONE SHEET DOWN.
OKAY, THE NEXT THREE SPEAKERS
ARE

01:31:05.059 --> 01:31:12.934
LARRY EATON --IT MIGHT BE
CARLTON.

01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:19.941
ARE ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE HERE?
OKAY.

01:31:20.007 --> 01:31:22.944
&gt;&gt; THAT WOULD BE LARRY BARTON.

01:31:23.010 --> 01:31:25.947
&gt;&gt; ORTON, I APOLOGIZE.

01:31:26.013 --> 01:31:36.924
&gt;&gt; THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT

01:31:36.991 --> 01:31:38.926
IS ADVISING THE MAYOR, THE CITY
COUNCIL, THE

01:31:38.993 --> 01:31:40.928
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS ON
EQUITABLE AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
WITH STRATEGIES

01:31:40.995 --> 01:31:43.931
FOCUSED ON UNDERREPRESENTED
COMMUNITIES.

01:31:43.998 --> 01:31:51.939
THE VISION OF THE COMMUNITY
INVOLVEMENT COMMISSION

01:31:52.006 --> 01:31:52.940
IS TO GIVE SEATTLE COMMUNITIES,
ESPECIALLY HISTORICALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES,

01:31:53.007 --> 01:31:57.945
A TRUSTED VOICE IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.

01:31:58.012 --> 01:32:03.951
CLEARLY THE MARKET DOES NOT FIT
THESE PARAMETERS.

01:32:04.018 --> 01:32:10.925
THE PROPOSAL TO INCLUDE THE
MARKET HISTORICAL DISTRICT

01:32:10.992 --> 01:32:16.931
IN COUNCIL BILL 120456 ADDS
ANOTHER LEVEL OF REVIEW
INVOLVING CITY STAFF

01:32:16.998 --> 01:32:18.933
INJECTED IN THE PROCESS.
CURRENTLY THE HISTORICAL

01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:22.937
COMMISSION WORKS IN TANDEM TO
REVIEW PROPOSALS AND REQUEST
ADDITIONS AND CHANGES

01:32:23.004 --> 01:32:31.946
AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON CITY
DEVELOPMENTS.

01:32:32.013 --> 01:32:33.948
CREATING A REDUNDANT SAN
INFRASTRUCTURE WITH

01:32:34.015 --> 01:32:37.952
ADDED CITY INVOLVEMENT WOULD
DILUTE THE

01:32:38.019 --> 01:32:40.922
STREAMLINED PROCESS FOR THE
CURRENT MANAGEMENT OF THE

01:32:40.988 --> 01:32:43.925
STRUCTURE WITH ADDITIONAL COST
AND DELAYS WITHOUT

01:32:43.991 --> 01:32:49.931
BENEFIT. BASICALLY IF IT AIN'T
BROKE, DON'T FIX IT, APPLIES.

01:32:49.997 --> 01:32:55.937
IMPORTANTLY IT HAS STEERED CLEAR
OF POTENTIAL POLITICAL
INTERFERENCE.

01:32:56.003 --> 01:32:59.941
AS IT IS CURRENTLY ORGANIZED.

01:33:00.007 --> 01:33:01.943
SAVE THE MARKET INITIATIVES.
THANK YOU.

01:33:02.009 --> 01:33:07.949
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

01:33:08.015 --> 01:33:13.921
--

01:33:13.988 --> 01:33:16.924
&gt;&gt; HI, MY NAME IS NICK SATIN, I
AM AN ADVOCATE, STORYTELLER

01:33:16.991 --> 01:33:19.927
AND RESIDENT IN THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET. I WORK FOR THE PIKE
PLACE

01:33:19.994 --> 01:33:21.929
MARKET FOUNDATION AND I SERVE ON
THE COUNCIL. THESE

01:33:21.996 --> 01:33:24.932
OPINIONS ARE MY OWN. FOR OVER 50
YEARS CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS HAVE

01:33:24.999 --> 01:33:26.934
MITIGATED CHANGES IN THE PIKE
PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL

01:33:27.001 --> 01:33:31.939
DISTRICT. THE COUNCIL BILL FLIES
IN THE FACE OF THIS

01:33:32.006 --> 01:33:37.945
TRADITION OF PUBLIC
ACCOUNTABILITY WITH THE MARKET

01:33:38.012 --> 01:33:40.948
HISTORIC COMMISSION AND WOULD
REMOVE A KEY LAYER OF CITIZEN
OVERSIGHT AND

01:33:41.015 --> 01:33:49.924
GOVERNANCE FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD
CHARACTERIZED, BY AMONG OTHER
THINGS, AS YOU HAVE

01:33:49.991 --> 01:33:50.925
SEEN TODAY, A UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT
AND SELF-DETERMINATION ON

01:33:50.992 --> 01:33:52.927
CITIZEN GOVERNMENTS AND SMALL D
DEMOCRACY.

01:33:52.994 --> 01:33:55.930
DO NOT REMOVE THIS UNDER THE
AUSPICES OF

01:33:55.997 --> 01:33:58.933
SAVING TIME. I'VE GOT MORE. AND
MULTIPLE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION

01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.937
MEETINGS THIS YEAR, MANY MEMBERS
OF

01:34:03.004 --> 01:34:05.072
THE COMMISSION PAST AND PRESENT
HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO
CONTINUE TO

01:34:05.139 --> 01:34:08.009
PROVIDE CLEAR PUBLIC OVERSIGHT
AND PRESERVING

01:34:08.075 --> 01:34:13.014
THE CHARACTER OF THE MARKET
INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE

01:34:13.080 --> 01:34:17.018
AND ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS
AND HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THEY

01:34:17.084 --> 01:34:18.019
DO NOT WANT THEIR AUTHORITY
ERODED BY

01:34:18.085 --> 01:34:20.021
A RUBBER STAMP BEHIND A CLOSED
DOOR.

01:34:20.087 --> 01:34:22.990
MY MESSAGE IS SIMPLE.

01:34:23.057 --> 01:34:25.993
LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE
MARKET. LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY

01:34:26.060 --> 01:34:28.996
AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR
THIS VIBRANT

01:34:29.063 --> 01:34:31.999
AND ENGAGED GROUP OF PEOPLE AND
REMOVE SECTION

01:34:32.066 --> 01:34:36.437
8 INVOLVING THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET HISTORICAL COMMISSION
FROM COUNCIL

01:34:36.504 --> 01:34:37.972
BILL 120456. THANK YOU.

01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:44.011
&gt;&gt; BROOKS -- FOLLOWED BY SKIP
KNOX.

01:34:44.078 --> 01:34:50.017
&gt;&gt; MY NAME IS BROOKS GOLD, I AM
A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE

01:34:50.084 --> 01:34:55.990
COMMITTEE OF THE ALLIED ARTS
COALITION. I ALSO SIT ON THE
DESIGN

01:34:56.057 --> 01:34:58.993
REVIEW COMMUNITY. OUR PARENT
ORGANIZATION,

01:34:59.060 --> 01:35:01.996
ALLIED ARTS, WAS RIGHT THERE AT
THE BEGINNING OF THE FIGHT TO
SAVE

01:35:02.063 --> 01:35:05.066
THE MARKET, SO I SUPPORT ALL OF
THE COMMENTS I HAVE

01:35:05.132 --> 01:35:11.005
HEARD THIS MORNING AND WE VERY
MUCH BELIEVE IN THOSE.

01:35:11.072 --> 01:35:14.008
I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN STATED
VERY WELL.

01:35:14.075 --> 01:35:25.019
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I REPRESENT
THE OPINION OF

01:35:25.086 --> 01:35:27.988
FORMER CITY COUNCILMEMBER --I
WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING THAT
THE

01:35:28.055 --> 01:35:28.989
OTHER NAME FOR PIKE PLACE MARKET
IS THE PUBLIC MARKET. I THINK
THAT REALLY

01:35:29.056 --> 01:35:31.992
SAYS IT ALL. IT IS ALL ABOUT
PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT

01:35:32.059 --> 01:35:37.998
TO ENJOY THE FRUITS OF THE
MARKET. TO WORK THERE, TO BE

01:35:38.065 --> 01:35:44.004
A CITIZEN WHO IS INVOLVED IN THE
MARKET ON A

01:35:44.071 --> 01:35:50.010
DAILY BASIS. AS SO MANY OF US
ARE.

01:35:50.077 --> 01:35:56.016
I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
HOW IMPORTANT SEISMIC UPGRADES
CAN BE

01:35:56.083 --> 01:35:59.019
AS A DESIGN FEATURE.

01:35:59.086 --> 01:36:05.059
THEY CAN MAKE OR BREAK A
HISTORIC BUILDING, AS I ONCE HAD

01:36:05.126 --> 01:36:09.997
AN OFFICE IN A HISTORIC BUILDING
THAT HAD A SEISMIC UPGRADE. SO
THANK

01:36:10.064 --> 01:36:17.004
YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY.

01:36:17.071 --> 01:36:20.007
&gt;&gt; SKIP KNOX FOLLOWED BY JOHN
BRINK AND CARLA BECKER. SKIP.

01:36:20.074 --> 01:36:25.012
&gt;&gt; GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS
AND I HOPE

01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:26.013
THE MAYOR IS LISTENING TO OUR
COMMENTARY THIS MORNING. I AM
GOING TO CLAIM

01:36:26.080 --> 01:36:29.016
SENIORITY WITH THE SPIRITUAL
CONNECTION TO THE

01:36:29.083 --> 01:36:31.018
MARKET. MY MOTHER TOLD ME
STORIES --

01:36:31.085 --> 01:36:32.019
I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT
WORD.

01:36:32.086 --> 01:36:37.992
PARDON ME.

01:36:38.058 --> 01:36:40.995
I WAS RAISED AT THE END OF A
DIRT ROAD IN OLYMPIA AND MY
MOTHER TOLD

01:36:41.061 --> 01:36:43.998
ME STORIES ABOUT GOING TO THE
MARKET WITH

01:36:44.064 --> 01:36:47.001
HER GRANDMOTHER TO BUY GROCERIES
EVERY SATURDAY MORNING. SO WHEN
I CAME TO

01:36:47.067 --> 01:36:52.006
SEATTLE HAD TO GO TO THE MARKET
AND IT HAS BEEN

01:36:52.072 --> 01:36:55.009
ASSOCIATED EVER SINCE. OTHER
SPEAKERS, ELOQUENT AS THEY HAVE
BEEN, DON'T

01:36:55.075 --> 01:36:59.013
NEED ME TO AUGMENT WHAT THEY
HAVE SAID ABOUT THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION.

01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:05.085
IT STINKS. I AM NOT SO
CHARITABLE AS THEY HAVE BEEN

01:37:05.152 --> 01:37:07.988
IN REGARD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS AND THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION.

01:37:08.055 --> 01:37:10.991
THEY HAVE OBSTRUCTED THE
HISTORIC COMMISSION.

01:37:11.058 --> 01:37:15.996
THEY STALLED APPOINTMENTS TO THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE

01:37:16.063 --> 01:37:20.000
AND HAVE RUN AT HALF STAFF FOR
TOO LONG. SO SIX MEMBERS ARE

01:37:20.067 --> 01:37:22.002
DOING THE WORK OF 12.

01:37:22.069 --> 01:37:25.005
THEY HAVE BEEN DISRESPECTFUL AND
THAT IS THE BEST I CAN SAY ABOUT
THE DEPARTMENT

01:37:25.072 --> 01:37:28.008
OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY HAVE ALSO
BEEN DECEITFUL. WHEN ASKED

01:37:28.075 --> 01:37:34.014
IF THEY HAD LEGISLATION DRAFTED,
THE ANSWER WAS NO.

01:37:34.081 --> 01:37:35.015
HAD IT GONE TO THE LAW
DEPARTMENT?

01:37:35.082 --> 01:37:40.020
NO. HAD IT COME BACK FROM THE
LAW DEPARTMENT. NO.

01:37:40.087 --> 01:37:41.021
HAD IT GONE TO THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE?

01:37:41.088 --> 01:37:43.991
NO. YET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT A
PIPELINE MEMO IS AND IT SHOWS
CLEARLY THAT

01:37:44.058 --> 01:37:51.999
THE LEGISLATION WAS EXISTING AND
WAS NOT GIVEN

01:37:52.066 --> 01:37:53.000
TO ME AS A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
REQUEST.

01:37:53.067 --> 01:37:56.604
THIS DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE CUT
OFF, GET A HAIRCUT, FRANKLY,
FROM

01:37:56.670 --> 01:37:58.939
PIKE PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION.

01:37:59.006 --> 01:38:02.009
THANK YOU.

01:38:02.076 --> 01:38:04.011
&gt;&gt; JOHN BRINK'S FOLLOWED BY
CARLA BECKER.

01:38:04.078 --> 01:38:07.014
&gt;&gt; HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN BRINK.
I OPERATE A

01:38:07.081 --> 01:38:11.018
TOUR OF BUSINESS IN THE MARKET.
I HAVE BEEN IN THE MARKET

01:38:11.085 --> 01:38:14.021
SINCE 1989.

01:38:14.088 --> 01:38:16.991
I HAVE DONE A LOT OF THINGS IN
THE MARKET, AS YOU

01:38:17.057 --> 01:38:18.993
CAN SEE. OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY IS
HERE.

01:38:19.059 --> 01:38:21.996
I HOPE THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR CAN
SEE THAT. EVERY CORNER OF THE
MARKET IS

01:38:22.062 --> 01:38:23.998
HERE BECAUSE WE ARE VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT CHANGES

01:38:24.064 --> 01:38:26.000
TO THIS DELICATE ECOSYSTEM.
CERTAIN CHANGES CAN RUIN IT. IT
IS LIKE A

01:38:26.066 --> 01:38:30.004
CORAL REEF.

01:38:30.070 --> 01:38:34.008
WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED AND WE
DON'T

01:38:34.074 --> 01:38:37.011
NEED PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE MARKET
TO COME IN AND MAKE

01:38:37.077 --> 01:38:39.013
CLOSED-DOOR DECISIONS ON OUR
BEHALF.

01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:45.019
WE ARE GOOD GARDENERS OF THE
MARKET.

01:38:45.085 --> 01:38:47.988
I THINK WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB
FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS AND THIS
IS

01:38:48.055 --> 01:38:50.991
A TOTALLY UNNECESSARY STEP. A
BIG OVERREACH. THE PANDEMIC IS
OVER

01:38:51.058 --> 01:38:53.994
AND I THINK THE MARKET HAS BEEN
HERE BEFORE US AND WILL
HOPEFULLY EXIST

01:38:54.061 --> 01:38:56.997
AFTER US.

01:38:57.064 --> 01:38:58.999
IT IS ONE OF THE MAGNIFICENT
SEVEN MARKETS ON THE PLANET. WE
WANT

01:38:59.066 --> 01:39:11.011
TO KEEP IT THIS WAY. THE PUBLIC
MARKET IS UNIQUE TO SEATTLE

01:39:11.078 --> 01:39:12.012
AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN ITS
CHARACTER.

01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:14.014
I AGREE WITH EVERYONE ELSE. ONE
AFTER THE OTHER SAID THE

01:39:14.081 --> 01:39:15.015
SAME THINGS, SO I AGREE. MAKE
SURE THE

01:39:15.082 --> 01:39:16.750
HISTORIC COMMISSION MAINTAINS
ITS OVERSIGHT, PLEASE.

01:39:16.817 --> 01:39:17.451
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:39:17.518 --> 01:39:21.021
&gt;&gt; CARLA BECKER FOLLOWED BY
--SORRY. CARLA BECKER, CATHERINE
HENNE

01:39:21.088 --> 01:39:29.997
AND KURT -- IS CARLA BECKER
HERE? NO? OKAY,

01:39:30.064 --> 01:39:36.003
CATHERINE -- PLEASE GO

01:39:36.070 --> 01:39:38.005
AHEAD, CATHERINE.

01:39:38.072 --> 01:39:42.009
&gt;&gt; HI THERE, LET ME TALK AS FAST
AS I CAN.

01:39:42.076 --> 01:39:44.011
MY NAME IS KATHY.

01:39:44.078 --> 01:39:51.018
I AM AN ARTIST AND AND COMMUNITY
ADVOCATE AND A PIKE PLACE MARKET
GROUPIE. ACCORDING

01:39:51.085 --> 01:39:54.988
TO A LOT OF THE FOUNDATION,

01:39:55.055 --> 01:39:58.992
PIKE PLACE MARKET HAS BEEN A
DEFINING SEATTLE ICON FOR MORE
THAN A CENTURY.

01:39:59.059 --> 01:40:01.995
IT IS THE SOUL OF SEATTLE AND
SPANS MORE THAN NINE

01:40:02.062 --> 01:40:04.998
BEAUTIFUL ACRES. IT IS A
VIBRANT, STRONG,

01:40:05.065 --> 01:40:08.936
THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD. COMPRISED
OF SHOPS

01:40:09.002 --> 01:40:14.942
AND NEIGHBORHOODS. 70 FARMERS.

01:40:15.008 --> 01:40:17.945
450 RESIDENTS.

01:40:18.011 --> 01:40:26.954
PRESCHOOL, MEDICAL CLINIC, FOOD
BANK. AND SO MUCH MORE.

01:40:27.020 --> 01:40:33.927
INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS A
TOP EXAMPLE OF HOW TO
CONTRIBUTE.

01:40:33.994 --> 01:40:41.935
FREE HEALTHY COMMUNITY THROUGH
SUPPORT, ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE,
NUTRITIOUS FOOD,

01:40:42.002 --> 01:40:45.939
EDUCATION AND CONNECTION.

01:40:46.006 --> 01:40:50.944
IT IS CRITICAL TO OUR ABILITY
AND WE RESPONDED VERY WELL.

01:40:51.011 --> 01:40:57.951
THRIVING BETTER THAN EVER NOW.

01:40:58.018 --> 01:41:02.923
OUR COUNTRY HAS SEEN POLITICIANS
POWER GRABBING AND USING
DISHONESTY.

01:41:02.990 --> 01:41:06.927
MANY, MANY DECENTLY HARD-WORKING

01:41:06.994 --> 01:41:11.932
PEOPLES. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO
THIS COUNCIL IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE, I

01:41:11.999 --> 01:41:17.938
ASK YOU TO REJECT THIS.

01:41:18.005 --> 01:41:23.944
WE WILL HELP YOU

01:41:24.011 --> 01:41:26.947
IN ANY WAY WE CAN. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.

01:41:27.014 --> 01:41:32.953
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU. OKAY, TWO MORE
SPEAKERS. WE HAVE KURT FOLLOWED

01:41:33.020 --> 01:41:35.923
BY SHARON AND THAT WILL BE IT.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.

01:41:35.989 --> 01:41:38.926
&gt;&gt; HELLO, MY NAME IS KURT -- AND
AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL BY MY

01:41:38.992 --> 01:41:43.931
NAME, I AM THE OWNER AND FOUNDER
AND ALSO THE OWNER OF

01:41:43.997 --> 01:41:44.932
THE BUILDING THAT FEATURES
OPERATES IN.

01:41:44.998 --> 01:41:47.935
I AM REALLY PROUD TO STAND HERE
AND TELL

01:41:48.001 --> 01:41:50.938
YOU THAT BEECHER'S IS GOING TO
BE CELEBRATING

01:41:51.004 --> 01:41:53.941
ITS 20th ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR
AS A CENTERPIECE

01:41:54.007 --> 01:41:58.946
OF THE MARKET.

01:41:59.012 --> 01:42:00.948
AS A BUSINESS PERSON AND
PROPERTY OWNER IN THE MARKET, I

01:42:01.014 --> 01:42:05.953
CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE
BEGINNING I FOUND THE MARKET

01:42:06.019 --> 01:42:08.922
COMMISSION STRUCTURE SOMEWHAT
FRUSTRATING, BECAUSE IT KEPT

01:42:08.989 --> 01:42:13.927
ME FROM DOING WHAT I WANTED TO
DO.

01:42:13.994 --> 01:42:16.930
HOWEVER, OVER THE 20 YEARS WE
HAVE BEEN OPERATING,

01:42:16.997 --> 01:42:19.933
I HAVE COME TO SEE THE MARKET
COMMISSION AND HISTORICAL

01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:26.940
COMMISSION AS REALLY GENIUS FOR
KEEPING THIS ASSET UNIQUE

01:42:27.007 --> 01:42:29.943
ON A WORLDWIDE BASIS. SO I AM IN
COMPLETE SUPPORT

01:42:30.010 --> 01:42:32.946
OF MAINTAINING THE EXISTING
STRUCTURE FOR MANAGING

01:42:33.013 --> 01:42:38.952
THE COMMISSION. THE MARKET.

01:42:39.019 --> 01:42:47.928
AND I WANT TO SAY, PLEASE DON'T
FIX WHAT IS WORKING VERY, VERY
WELL.

01:42:47.995 --> 01:42:50.931
&gt;&gt; GOOD MORNING.

01:42:50.998 --> 01:42:52.933
I AM SHARON SHAW.

01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:56.937
I HAVE THE TITLE OF THE MOTHER
OF THE MARKET.

01:42:57.004 --> 01:43:02.943
MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY
WAS ORGANIZED

01:43:03.010 --> 01:43:05.946
IN LESS THAN THREE DAYS, SO IT
IS A VERY SMALL EXAMPLE OF WHAT
THIS

01:43:06.013 --> 01:43:09.950
COMMUNITY CAN DO AND WILL

01:43:10.017 --> 01:43:11.952
DO SHOULD THIS RIGHT BE TAKEN
AWAY FROM THE HISTORICAL
COMMITTEE. NOT

01:43:12.019 --> 01:43:14.922
A THREAT, JUST SAYING THAT YOU
WILL HEAR FROM US

01:43:14.988 --> 01:43:17.925
IF THIS DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY.

01:43:17.991 --> 01:43:22.930
THE MARKET HAS AN INCREDIBLE
COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS

01:43:22.996 --> 01:43:27.935
EACH OTHER, THAT TAKES CARE OF
EACH OTHER, AND HAS

01:43:28.001 --> 01:43:32.940
DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF TAKING
CARE OF THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY
DURING

01:43:33.006 --> 01:43:37.945
THE PANDEMIC.

01:43:38.011 --> 01:43:40.948
IN THAT TIME YOU GAVE THE RIGHT
TO MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR THE
PIKE PLACE

01:43:41.014 --> 01:43:42.950
MARKET TO SOMEBODY WHO KNEW
NOTHING ABOUT THE

01:43:43.016 --> 01:43:44.952
MARKET. KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE
COMMUNITY.

01:43:45.018 --> 01:43:50.924
KNEW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT WE DO.

01:43:50.991 --> 01:43:53.927
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN
THE ABILITY TO HAVE PUBLIC

01:43:53.994 --> 01:43:56.930
COMMENT. THAT IS HOW THE MARKET
WORKS. THAT IS HOW WE TAKE

01:43:56.997 --> 01:43:59.933
CARE OF EACH OTHER AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF EACH

01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:06.006
OTHER IN THAT SAME MANNER, SO
PLEASE CONSIDER THIS

01:44:06.073 --> 01:44:07.007
AS A VERY BAD IDEA, BASICALLY.
WE NEED

01:44:07.074 --> 01:44:12.012
OUR HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO
HAVE --

01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:15.015
THAT IS NECESSARY.

01:44:15.082 --> 01:44:20.020
THANK YOU.

01:44:20.087 --> 01:44:26.994
&gt;&gt; OKAY, SO THIS CONCLUDES THE
PUBLIC HEARING PERIOD. WE WILL
MOVE INTO DISCUSSION.

01:44:27.060 --> 01:44:30.998
I AM GOING TO ASK SARA BELZ AND
SARAH SODT FROM

01:44:31.064 --> 01:44:33.000
THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR
WALKING

01:44:33.066 --> 01:44:42.009
US THROUGH THIS

01:44:42.075 --> 01:44:43.010
AND I AM GOING TO ALLOW
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS

01:44:43.076 --> 01:44:45.012
AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER
REPRESENTING THE MARKET TO MAKE
A FEW COMMENTS,

01:44:45.078 --> 01:44:48.015
BUT I DO WANT TO FIRST
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT

01:44:48.081 --> 01:44:54.021
WE CLEARLY HAVE PASSIONATE
ADVOCATES FOR THE MARKET HERE.
WE HAVE A LOT

01:44:54.087 --> 01:44:58.992
OF CONCERNS EXPRESSED. I DO WANT
TO ASK YOU NOT TO IMPUGN THE
MOTIVES

01:44:59.059 --> 01:44:59.993
OF OUR CITY STAFF. WE HAVE A LOT
OF DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO
ARE

01:45:00.060 --> 01:45:05.999
HERE TO DO THEIR BEST

01:45:06.066 --> 01:45:07.000
FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FOR
COMMISSIONS, FOR

01:45:07.067 --> 01:45:11.004
ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY AND
CALLING THEM DECEITFUL

01:45:11.071 --> 01:45:15.008
IS REALLY INAPPROPRIATE AND NOT
WELCOME IN THIS CHAMBER. SO

01:45:15.075 --> 01:45:24.017
I AM GOING TO HAND IT TO
COUNCILMEMBER

01:45:24.084 --> 01:45:26.019
LEWIS AND THEN I WILL HAND IT TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:45:26.086 --> 01:45:29.990
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.

01:45:30.057 --> 01:45:32.993
I ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF
CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND IT IS
GOOD

01:45:33.060 --> 01:45:35.996
WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS HERE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THAT. AS THE
COUNCILMEMBER

01:45:36.063 --> 01:45:44.004
WHO REPRESENTS THE MARKET, ANY
POLICY THAT HAS A POTENTIAL
IMPACT

01:45:44.071 --> 01:45:47.007
ON THE MARKET IS SOMETHING THAT
MY OFFICE TAKES A GREAT INTEREST

01:45:47.074 --> 01:45:51.011
IN. SO THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS OR
FOR LISH, BUT

01:45:51.078 --> 01:45:54.014
I WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT
THE SCOPE OF THE LEGISLATION IN
FRONT

01:45:54.081 --> 01:45:58.018
OF US, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN

01:45:58.085 --> 01:46:00.020
SOME CONFLICTING THINGS AND WHAT
HAS BEEN REPORTED AND DISCUSSED.
THERE

01:46:00.087 --> 01:46:02.989
WAS A NOVEMBER 22 EDITORIAL
ALLUDING TO THE ROLE

01:46:03.056 --> 01:46:07.994
OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION,
PARTICULARLY IN KEEPING

01:46:08.061 --> 01:46:08.995
THE CHARACTER AND KEEPING OUT
CHAINS.

01:46:09.062 --> 01:46:14.000
I THINK THE EXAMPLE GIVEN

01:46:14.067 --> 01:46:18.004
AND THAT WAS THAT BURGER KING
CAN'T GO IN THE MARKET. THE
HISTORIC COMMISSION

01:46:18.071 --> 01:46:21.007
HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE BARRIER ON
THAT. THAT WAS

01:46:21.074 --> 01:46:23.009
ALLUDED TO A LITTLE BIT IN
PUBLIC COMMENT. I

01:46:23.076 --> 01:46:26.012
WANT TO ESTABLISH BEFORE WE GET
DEEPER INTO THE DISCUSSION WHAT
THE

01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:32.018
SCOPE IS OF THE CURRENTLY
PROPOSED CHANGES, SO THAT WE
LIMIT THE

01:46:32.085 --> 01:46:35.989
DISCUSSION TO WHAT THE CHANGES
ACTUALLY ARE.

01:46:36.056 --> 01:46:44.998
SO WHY DON'T WE START WITH THAT
AND THEN I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL
FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.

01:46:45.065 --> 01:46:48.001
&gt;&gt; SO, THANK YOU, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. YES, THAT

01:46:48.068 --> 01:46:51.004
WILL BE ADDRESSED IN OUR
PRESENTATION.

01:46:51.071 --> 01:46:57.010
BUT USE IS NOT A PROPOSED
REVIEW,

01:46:57.077 --> 01:47:00.013
PROPOSED IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW LEGISLATION

01:47:00.080 --> 01:47:06.019
LATER TODAY. SO IF THERE WAS AN
APPLICATION FOR A CHAIN IN

01:47:06.086 --> 01:47:09.990
THE MARKET, THAT WOULD GO TO THE
COMMISSION.

01:47:10.056 --> 01:47:13.260
THAT WOULD NOT BE REVIEWED BY
STAFF.

01:47:13.326 --> 01:47:14.928
DOES THAT CLARIFY?

01:47:14.995 --> 01:47:23.003
&gt;&gt; GIVEN THAT ME HAVING THE
FLOOR

01:47:23.069 --> 01:47:26.006
RIGHT NOW SEEMS TO BE HOLDING US
BACK FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF

01:47:26.072 --> 01:47:28.008
NEIGHBORHOODS PRESENTATION, WHAT
I MIGHT RECOMMEND, MADAM CHAIR,
IF THIS

01:47:28.074 --> 01:47:33.013
MEETS YOUR APPROVAL, THAT WE
HAVE

01:47:33.079 --> 01:47:35.015
THE PRESENTATION AND I WOULD
LIKE TO

01:47:35.081 --> 01:47:37.017
ASK THE CHAIR IF I COULD MAYBE
BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AFTER THE
PRESENTATION,

01:47:37.083 --> 01:47:40.020
BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE MY
QUESTIONS MIGHT GET

01:47:40.086 --> 01:47:42.989
ANSWERED IN THE PRESENTATION.

01:47:43.056 --> 01:47:46.993
&gt;&gt; YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE
THE DEPARTMENT PRESENT. I

01:47:47.060 --> 01:47:50.997
THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE SIMILAR
QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY GIVEN

01:47:51.064 --> 01:47:52.999
SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE TODAY,
SO LET'S

01:47:53.066 --> 01:47:58.004
HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN WE WILL
MOVE TO DISCUSSION.

01:47:58.071 --> 01:48:01.007
THANK YOU.

01:48:01.074 --> 01:48:07.013
&gt;&gt; AND JUST AS BACKGROUND, WE
ARE DEALING WITH

01:48:07.080 --> 01:48:10.016
SOME I.T. CHALLENGES THIS
MORNING, SO WE ARE GOING TO BE

01:48:10.083 --> 01:48:13.019
SHARING HER SCREEN WITH THE
PRESENTATION AND THEN

01:48:13.086 --> 01:48:16.990
USING THE CAMERA ON MY

01:48:17.057 --> 01:48:27.000
COMPUTER TO DISCUSS THE
PRESENTATION WITH YOU.

01:48:27.067 --> 01:48:28.001
SO, MY NAME IS SARA BELZ AND I
AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE

01:48:28.068 --> 01:48:33.006
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
COMMUNITY ASSETS COMMISSION.

01:48:33.073 --> 01:48:36.009
&gt;&gt; AND I AM SARAH SODT, THE CITY
HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER.

01:48:36.076 --> 01:48:37.010
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS.

01:48:37.077 --> 01:48:42.015
&gt;&gt; AND I THINK WE WILL MOVE

01:48:42.082 --> 01:48:45.018
RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION, SO
HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS COUNCIL

01:48:45.085 --> 01:48:50.991
BILL 120456. WHICH WOULD
IMPLEMENT SOME ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW PROCEDURES

01:48:51.057 --> 01:48:57.998
FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
PROGRAM.

01:48:58.064 --> 01:49:01.001
AS SOME QUICK CONTEXT, BASELINE
STUDYING

01:49:01.067 --> 01:49:09.009
FOR COUNCILMEMBERS, IN 2022
PIECES OF LEGISLATION PASSED AS
PART

01:49:09.075 --> 01:49:11.011
OF THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO THE
COVID-19 PANDEMIC

01:49:11.077 --> 01:49:14.014
THAT PROVIDED THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS WITH TEMPORARY
AUTHORITY

01:49:14.080 --> 01:49:18.018
TO PROCESS CERTAIN TYPES OF
MINOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL
APPLICATIONS,

01:49:18.084 --> 01:49:21.988
ADMINISTRATIVELY. THESE
TEMPORARY PROVISIONS

01:49:22.055 --> 01:49:27.994
WILL EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 30 OF
THIS MONTH, SO WE ARE ADVANCING

01:49:28.061 --> 01:49:34.000
THIS LEGISLATION TO ALLOW SOME
OF THOSE TEMPORARY PROCEDURES

01:49:34.067 --> 01:49:36.002
TO BECOME MORE PERMANENTLY
ENSHRINED IN

01:49:36.069 --> 01:49:40.006
MUNICIPAL CODE GOING FORWARD.
ALSO AS A BIT OF

01:49:40.073 --> 01:49:44.010
CONTEXT EVEN PRIOR TO 2020 AND
THE PANDEMIC,

01:49:44.077 --> 01:49:49.015
THE MUNICIPAL CODE PROVIDED SOME
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AUTHORITY

01:49:49.082 --> 01:49:51.017
FOR CERTAIN MINOR APPLICATION
TYPES THAT WOULD

01:49:51.084 --> 01:49:56.990
HAVE OTHERWISE GONE THROUGH THE
LANDMARK PRESERVATION BOARD.
APPLICATIONS

01:49:57.057 --> 01:50:01.995
APPLIED TO LANDMARK SITES, AS
WELL AS PROPERTIES WITHIN THE
FORT LAWTON

01:50:02.062 --> 01:50:06.933
AND SAND POINT DISTRICTS, SO THE
CITY DOES HAVE SOME HISTORICAL
BACKGROUND

01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:12.939
AND EXPERIENCE MANAGING
CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL
APPLICATIONS, ADMINISTRATIVELY,

01:50:13.006 --> 01:50:15.942
PRIOR TO 2020.

01:50:16.009 --> 01:50:21.948
&gt;&gt; SO I AM GOING TO QUICKLY GO
OVER SOME EXAMPLES. SO, EXAMPLES
OF MINOR

01:50:22.015 --> 01:50:24.951
ALTERATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY
ELIGIBLE UNDER

01:50:25.018 --> 01:50:30.924
THE COVID LEGISLATION ARE
SIGNAGE, AWNINGS, STOREFRONT

01:50:30.991 --> 01:50:37.931
RENOVATIONS AND BUILDING SYSTEMS
UPGRADES.

01:50:37.998 --> 01:50:40.934
CURRENTLY THE ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW DOES NOT COVER NEW

01:50:41.001 --> 01:50:45.939
CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION, AND
MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.

01:50:46.006 --> 01:50:50.944
AND I LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT
REGARDLESS

01:50:51.011 --> 01:50:53.947
OF WHETHER A COA IS HANDLED
ADMINISTRATIVELY OR

01:50:54.014 --> 01:50:59.953
REVIEWED BY A BOARD OR
COMMISSION, ALL OF THE
REQUIREMENTS AND

01:51:00.020 --> 01:51:05.925
ADOPTED GUIDELINES ARE ADHERED
TO.

01:51:05.992 --> 01:51:08.928
COA OR CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL
SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS AND

01:51:08.995 --> 01:51:12.932
REVIEW TIMELINES ARE THE SAME
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER AN
APPLICATION IS SUBJECT

01:51:12.999 --> 01:51:15.935
TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OR
BOARD/COMMISSION REVIEW. SO I
JUST

01:51:16.002 --> 01:51:21.941
ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT

01:51:22.008 --> 01:51:23.943
THAT THIS ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW
IS SOMETHING

01:51:24.010 --> 01:51:28.948
THAT IS PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS
THE UNITED STATES IN

01:51:29.015 --> 01:51:37.924
MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE
SIMILARLY SIZED AND URBAN TO US
IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE.

01:51:37.991 --> 01:51:41.928
SO, THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, SAN
ANTONIO, SAN FRANCISCO,

01:51:41.995 --> 01:51:42.929
DENVER, AND NEW YORK CITY ALL
HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW
PROCESSES THAT

01:51:42.996 --> 01:51:54.941
ARE CONDUCTED BY STAFF.

01:51:55.008 --> 01:51:56.943
SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE
SEE OF ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW IS

01:51:57.010 --> 01:51:59.946
THAT MINOR CERTIFICATE OF
APPROVAL DECISIONS CAN BE MADE

01:52:00.013 --> 01:52:03.950
MORE QUICKLY BY STAFF, WITHOUT
THE NEED TO SCHEDULE

01:52:04.017 --> 01:52:06.953
A PUBLIC MEETING.

01:52:07.020 --> 01:52:12.926
AND THEN IT REALLY SIMPLIFIES
AND MAKES LESS

01:52:12.992 --> 01:52:20.934
EXPENSIVE THE PROCESS FOR
APPLICANTS, BECAUSE OF TIME
SAVINGS.

01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.938
THEN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
CAN FOCUS ON THOSE MORE

01:52:25.004 --> 01:52:27.941
COMPLEX APPLICATIONS, LIKE THE
DEMOLITION APPLICATIONS OR
LARGE,

01:52:28.007 --> 01:52:36.950
NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WITHIN
HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

01:52:37.016 --> 01:52:39.953
&gt;&gt; SO, IN LATE 2021 AFTER THE
TEMPORARY COVID PROCEDURES HAD

01:52:40.019 --> 01:52:45.925
BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT A YEAR
AND A HALF,

01:52:45.992 --> 01:52:51.931
ENGAGED A CONSULTANT, BROADVIEW
PLANNING, TO COLLECT FEEDBACK ON
THE TEMPORARY

01:52:51.998 --> 01:52:59.939
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCEDURES
AND ASKED THEM TO CONNECT WITH
BOARD

01:53:00.006 --> 01:53:05.945
MEMBERS, APPLICANTS, YOU KNOW,
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, TO GET
A REAL SENSE OF WHAT WAS
HAPPENING

01:53:06.012 --> 01:53:09.949
ON THE GROUND AND HOW PEOPLE
WERE RESPONDING TO IT.

01:53:10.016 --> 01:53:15.922
SO, BROADVIEW DID A SERIES OF
STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, SOME
CASE STUDY ANALYSIS AND ALSO
CREATED

01:53:15.989 --> 01:53:24.931
AN ONLINE COMMUNITY SURVEY AS
PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS
TO

01:53:24.998 --> 01:53:27.934
COLLECT INPUT. WHEN THEY WRAPPED
UP THEIR WORK, THERE WERE

01:53:28.001 --> 01:53:30.937
SORT OF TWO GENERAL TAKEAWAYS
FROM THEIR EFFORTS. THE FIRST
WAS THAT

01:53:31.004 --> 01:53:35.942
SUPPORT FOR MAKING THE TEMPORARY
REVIEW PROCEDURES PERMANENT

01:53:36.009 --> 01:53:39.946
WAS GENERALLY STRONG ACROSS THE
HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND BOARDS,
WITH

01:53:40.013 --> 01:53:45.952
THE EXCEPTION OF THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET, WHERE THERE

01:53:46.019 --> 01:53:47.954
WAS MORE OF A MUTED RESPONSE.

01:53:48.021 --> 01:53:48.922
THE OTHER TAKE AWAY WAS THAT
MORE CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY
ARE NEEDED

01:53:48.988 --> 01:53:54.928
IN TERMS OF BUSINESS PRACTICES
FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

01:53:54.994 --> 01:53:57.931
THE NEXT SLIDE IS A GRAPHIC
CREATED BY

01:53:57.997 --> 01:54:06.005
OUR CONSULTANT, SO YOU CAN SORT
OF SEE THE OVERALL LEVEL OF
SATISFACTION

01:54:06.072 --> 01:54:10.009
EXPRESSED BY FOLKS WITH
AFFILIATIONS WITH THE VARIOUS
HISTORIC BOARDS.

01:54:10.076 --> 01:54:16.015
I WILL NOTE THAT AFFILIATION
DOES NOT JUST MEAN A BOARD

01:54:16.082 --> 01:54:22.021
MEMBER. IT COULD BE AN
INDIVIDUAL THAT HAD AN
APPLICATION

01:54:22.088 --> 01:54:24.991
THAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD OR A
REPRESENTATIVE OF A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATION

01:54:25.058 --> 01:54:26.993
WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
RESPONDENTS WERE ASKED

01:54:27.060 --> 01:54:30.997
TO SELECT A BOARD THEY WERE SORT
OF MOST CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH.
YOU WILL

01:54:31.064 --> 01:54:40.006
SEE IN THE GRAPHIC THAT THE
AVERAGE

01:54:40.073 --> 01:54:43.009
RANGE IS FROM 1 TO 5. THOSE WERE
THE WEIGHTED CATEGORIES

01:54:43.076 --> 01:54:44.010
THAT RESPONDENTS COULD SELECT IN
TERMS OF

01:54:44.077 --> 01:54:46.012
OVERALL SATISFACTION WITH ONE
BEING THE LOWEST AND FIVE BEING
THE HIGHEST.

01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:51.017
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PIKE PLACE
MARKET,

01:54:51.084 --> 01:54:52.018
THE AVERAGE RESPONSES ACROSS THE
VARIOUS BOARDS AND DISTRICTS IS
GENERALLY

01:54:52.085 --> 01:54:57.991
AROUND THE FOUR RANGE AND IT WAS
PIKE PLACE THAT

01:54:58.057 --> 01:55:05.999
HAD THE LOWER AVERAGE RESPONSE
AT 2.6.

01:55:06.065 --> 01:55:11.004
SO, TAKING ALL OF THIS
INFORMATION INTO ACCOUNT,

01:55:11.070 --> 01:55:17.010
WE DRAFTED COUNCIL BILL 120456,
WHICH IS BEFORE

01:55:17.076 --> 01:55:19.012
YOU TODAY.

01:55:19.078 --> 01:55:23.016
THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION WOULD
PERMANENTLY CODIFY MANY, THOUGH

01:55:23.082 --> 01:55:26.019
NOT ALL OF THE TEMPORARY
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW

01:55:26.085 --> 01:55:30.990
PROVISIONS CURRENTLY IN PLACE
FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

01:55:31.057 --> 01:55:31.991
WE REALLY TRIED TO TAKE A
TAILORED APPROACH

01:55:32.058 --> 01:55:34.994
TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW ACROSS
THE CITY'S HISTORIC DISTRICTS TO
BETTER

01:55:35.061 --> 01:55:37.997
REFLECT THEIR UNIQUE
CIRCUMSTANCES AND CHARACTER.

01:55:38.064 --> 01:55:42.001
ATTACHED TO THE CENTRAL STAFF
MEMO,

01:55:42.068 --> 01:55:47.006
LISH CREATED A REALLY HELPFUL
AND DETAILED GRAPHIC

01:55:47.073 --> 01:55:54.013
--IT IS A MATRIX -- THAT SHOWS
HOW ADMINISTRATIVE

01:55:54.080 --> 01:55:56.015
REVIEW IS APPLIED ACROSS EACH OF
THE HISTORIC BOARDS AND
DISTRICTS. YOU

01:55:56.082 --> 01:56:02.021
WILL SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE
LANDMARK PRESERVATION BOARD,

01:56:02.088 --> 01:56:05.992
INTERNATIONAL SPECIAL REVIEW
DISTRICT, THE BOARDS THAT HAVE

01:56:06.059 --> 01:56:10.997
MUCH HIGHER LEVEL OF COMFORT
WITH ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW

01:56:11.064 --> 01:56:14.000
AND ALSO TEND TO SEE MORE
APPLICATIONS AND LARGER SCALE

01:56:14.067 --> 01:56:20.006
APPLICATIONS FOR THINGS LIKE
RE-DEVELOPMENT AND NEW
CONSTRUCTION.

01:56:20.073 --> 01:56:25.011
WE ARE PROPOSING A BROADER RANGE
OF ADMINISTRATIVE

01:56:25.078 --> 01:56:29.015
REVIEW THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED
IN THOSE DISTRICTS, IN ORDER TO
ALLOW

01:56:29.082 --> 01:56:35.021
THE BOARDS TO FOCUS ON THE
LARGER AND MORE TIME-CONSUMING
APPLICATIONS

01:56:35.088 --> 01:56:37.990
THAT COME TO THEIR PLATES.

01:56:38.057 --> 01:56:40.993
WHEREAS FOR THE SMALLER BOARDS,
LIKE PIKE PLACE MARKET AND
BALLARD,

01:56:41.060 --> 01:56:46.999
WHERE THEY ARE NOT

01:56:47.066 --> 01:56:49.001
SEEING AS MANY OF THOSE LARGER
SCALE APPLICATIONS, WE

01:56:49.068 --> 01:56:51.003
ARE PROPOSING THAT ONLY A SMALL
NUMBER OF APPLICATION TYPES

01:56:51.070 --> 01:56:59.011
STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND WE
WANTED TO DIG IN A LITTLE BIT

01:56:59.078 --> 01:57:02.014
ON PIKE PLACE, SINCE WE
ANTICIPATED THAT IS WHERE THE
MAJORITY

01:57:02.081 --> 01:57:05.084
OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS GOING
TO COME FROM TODAY. SO THE

01:57:05.151 --> 01:57:08.020
SLIDE THAT IS UP NOW REALLY JUST
PULLS OUT THE SPECIFIC

01:57:08.087 --> 01:57:11.991
CODE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD APPLY
TO PIKE PLACE

01:57:12.058 --> 01:57:17.997
MARKET, WITH REGARD TO
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.

01:57:18.064 --> 01:57:21.000
SO THERE ARE ONLY FOUR
APPLICATION TYPES THAT WE ARE
PROPOSING BE SUBJECT

01:57:21.067 --> 01:57:23.002
TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW FOR THE
PIKE PLACE MARKET HISTORIC
DISTRICT GOING

01:57:23.069 --> 01:57:29.008
FORWARD. THE FIRST IS
APPLICATIONS RELATING TO
BASICALLY

01:57:29.075 --> 01:57:33.012
BUILDING SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW,
CHANGES AND ALTERATIONS OR
INSTALLATIONS. SO,

01:57:33.079 --> 01:57:38.017
THINGS LIKE MECHANICAL AND
ELECTRICAL ELEMENTS, HVAC
SYSTEMS, THINGS

01:57:38.084 --> 01:57:40.019
LIKE THAT.

01:57:40.086 --> 01:57:45.992
SECOND IS IMPROVEMENTS FOR
ACCESSIBILITY COMPLIANCE.

01:57:46.058 --> 01:57:49.996
SO THESE ARE INCLUDING, BUT I
GUESS NOT LIMITED, TO ADA

01:57:50.062 --> 01:57:51.998
TYPE ENHANCEMENTS.

01:57:52.064 --> 01:57:54.000
INSTALLATION AND ALTERATION OF
FIRE AND LIFE

01:57:54.066 --> 01:57:59.005
SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND THE FOURTH
IS ALTERATIONS OR CHANGES TO
SEISMIC IMPROVEMENTS.

01:57:59.071 --> 01:58:04.010
OUR INTEREST IS TO TRY TO HAVE

01:58:04.076 --> 01:58:09.015
THIS CORE SET OF TECHNICAL
APPLICATION TYPES HANDLED
CONSISTENTLY

01:58:09.081 --> 01:58:11.017
ACROSS THE CITY, BY CITY
EMPLOYEES.

01:58:11.083 --> 01:58:16.989
OUR THOUGHT BEING THAT THAT CAN
PROVIDE

01:58:17.056 --> 01:58:22.995
A GREATER SENSE OF
PREDICTABILITY AND CONSISTENCY
FOR APPLICANTS,

01:58:23.062 --> 01:58:28.000
TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE
APPLICATIONS HANDLED BY CITY
STAFF.

01:58:28.067 --> 01:58:36.008
THAT INCLUDES THE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION SPECIALISTS AND
ALSO STAFF WITHIN SDOT,
UTILITIES,

01:58:36.075 --> 01:58:41.013
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SDCI, THAT
THEY WORK WITH

01:58:41.080 --> 01:58:43.015
WHEN PROCESSING THESE TECHNICAL
TYPES OF

01:58:43.082 --> 01:58:45.017
APPLICATIONS. ALL OTHER
APPLICATION TYPES, SIGNAGE,

01:58:45.084 --> 01:58:49.989
AWNING INSTALLATIONS, USE
REVIEW, NEW CONSTRUCTION,

01:58:50.056 --> 01:58:50.990
ALL OF THAT STUFF WOULD STILL BE
REFERRED TO THE

01:58:51.057 --> 01:58:55.995
PIKE PLACE MARKET HISTORICAL
COMMISSION FOR FULL BOARD
REVIEW.

01:58:56.062 --> 01:59:02.001
&gt;&gt; SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A
COUPLE OF EXAMPLES

01:59:02.068 --> 01:59:07.006
OF ADMINISTRATIVE OR ITEMS THAT
WOULD BE REVIEWED
ADMINISTRATIVELY

01:59:07.073 --> 01:59:12.011
AND THEN WOULD NOT. SO THIS
FIRST IS A

01:59:12.078 --> 01:59:17.016
SIGN APPLICATION THAT WAS
REVIEWED ADMINISTRATIVELY AT THE
STANDARD BUILDING ON FIRST

01:59:17.083 --> 01:59:22.021
AVENUE AND IT WAS FOR NEW
BUSINESS SIGNAGE AND IT WAS

01:59:22.088 --> 01:59:25.992
A NEW BUSINESS TENANT COMING IN
AND THEY APPLIED

01:59:26.058 --> 01:59:30.997
FOR SIGNAGE, BASICALLY IN THE
SAME LOCATION WHERE THE PREVIOUS
TENANT HAD

01:59:31.063 --> 01:59:38.004
HAD SIGNAGE. SO IT WAS SWITCHING
OUT THE SIGNAGE FOR THE OLD,
EXITING

01:59:38.070 --> 01:59:42.008
TENANT, WITH THE NEW TENANT. SO
YOU WILL SEE

01:59:42.074 --> 01:59:50.016
SOME APPLIED VINYL SIGNAGE ON
THE TRANSOM WINDOW AND THEN

01:59:50.082 --> 01:59:53.019
A BLADE SIGN THAT WAS INSTALLED
IN THE SAME LOCATION AS

01:59:53.085 --> 01:59:55.988
THE PREVIOUS LINE. SO THEY WERE
BASICALLY JUST

01:59:56.055 --> 01:59:57.990
SWITCHING OUT SIGN FACES.

01:59:58.057 --> 02:00:01.994
THAT WAS REVIEWED
ADMINISTRATIVELY AND IS

02:00:02.061 --> 02:00:04.997
A PRETTY TYPICAL EXAMPLE.

02:00:05.064 --> 02:00:08.935
AND THEN HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A

02:00:09.001 --> 02:00:13.940
PROJECT THAT WENT TO THE
LANDMARK PRESERVATION BOARD FOR
REVIEW

02:00:14.006 --> 02:00:16.943
AND THIS IS THE PACIFIC
TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH

02:00:17.009 --> 02:00:19.946
GARFIELD EXCHANGE.

02:00:20.012 --> 02:00:24.951
AND IT IS

02:00:25.017 --> 02:00:27.954
A BUILDING THAT WAS A TELEGRAPH
EXCHANGE, BUT HAS

02:00:28.020 --> 02:00:31.924
BEEN CONVERTED TO HOUSING AND
PART OF

02:00:31.991 --> 02:00:34.927
THAT CONVERSION WAS ADDING A
PENTHOUSE, SO, SOME ADDITIONAL
UNITS

02:00:34.994 --> 02:00:37.930
ON THE UPPER LEVEL OF THE
BUILDING. AS

02:00:37.997 --> 02:00:43.936
WELL AS REPLACING SOME WINDOWS

02:00:44.003 --> 02:00:48.941
AND THE ENTRY. SO, THIS WAS
REVIEWED AND

02:00:49.008 --> 02:00:52.945
APPROVED BY THE LANDMARKS
PRESERVATION BOARD AT A PUBLIC
MEETING.

02:00:53.012 --> 02:00:58.951
SO, ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE
BEEN THINKING

02:00:59.018 --> 02:01:04.991
A LOT ABOUT HIS TRANSPARENCY AND
SOME BUSINESS

02:01:05.057 --> 02:01:07.927
PRACTICE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE
CAN MAKE, THOUGHTFULLY, AND

02:01:07.994 --> 02:01:10.930
NOT IN A RESPONSE TO AN
EMERGENCY, LIKE

02:01:10.997 --> 02:01:13.933
DURING COVID.

02:01:14.000 --> 02:01:16.936
SO, BECAUSE TRANSPARENCY IS
DEFINITELY A CONCERN OF OURS AND

02:01:17.003 --> 02:01:22.942
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND
THAT AND MAKE

02:01:23.009 --> 02:01:25.945
THE PROCESSES AS ACCESSIBLE TO
FOLKS AS POSSIBLE.

02:01:26.012 --> 02:01:31.951
SO, ONE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD WAS
PUBLISHING NOTICES OF DECISION

02:01:32.018 --> 02:01:35.921
BY EMAIL ON OUR

02:01:35.988 --> 02:01:37.923
WEBSITE AND I HAVE ALREADY
STARTED TALKING TO I.T. ABOUT
HOW WE MIGHT

02:01:37.990 --> 02:01:42.928
GO ABOUT DOING THAT. AND

02:01:42.995 --> 02:01:46.932
ALSO UPDATING OUR INSTRUCTIONAL
MATERIALS FOR APPLICANTS,

02:01:46.999 --> 02:01:49.935
WITH MORE CLARITY AROUND WHAT IT
MEANS

02:01:50.002 --> 02:01:55.941
TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY REVIEWED

02:01:56.008 --> 02:01:58.944
AND WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE FULL
BOARD REVIEW.

02:01:59.011 --> 02:02:06.952
AND SOMETHING WE HAVE ALREADY
STARTED IS HAVING A STANDING
ITEM

02:02:07.019 --> 02:02:10.923
ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION
AGENDAS.

02:02:10.990 --> 02:02:13.926
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE NOT HAD

02:02:13.993 --> 02:02:19.932
A HISTORY OF ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW.

02:02:19.999 --> 02:02:25.938
SO THERE IS A STANDING ITEM
WHERE THERE ARE REGULAR STAFF
REPORTS,

02:02:26.005 --> 02:02:31.944
WHERE STAFF REPORTS BACK AS TO
WHAT THEY HAVE REVIEWED
ADMINISTRATIVELY.

02:02:32.011 --> 02:02:33.813
AND THAT IS IT.

02:02:33.879 --> 02:02:35.548
ANY QUESTIONS?

02:02:35.614 --> 02:02:45.925
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU --I APPRECIATE

02:02:45.991 --> 02:02:46.926
THAT LAST SLIDE, BECAUSE THAT
WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, WHAT
KIND OF

02:02:46.992 --> 02:02:49.929
CHANGES ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED
TO INCREASE

02:02:49.995 --> 02:02:52.932
TRANSPARENCY FOR THE PROCESS, SO
PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE OF

02:02:52.998 --> 02:02:57.937
WHAT IS HAPPENING? COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS, I WILL HAND IT BACK TO

02:02:58.003 --> 02:02:59.939
YOU. WE PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME
QUESTIONS.

02:03:00.005 --> 02:03:01.941
PLEASE GO AHEAD.

02:03:02.007 --> 02:03:03.943
&gt;&gt; LET'S SEE. WE CAN COMPARE
NOTES LATER IF MY

02:03:04.009 --> 02:03:09.949
QUESTIONS ARE THE SAME. SO,
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
SO,

02:03:10.015 --> 02:03:13.953
I DO HAVE MY QUESTIONS SATISFIED
AS TO THE SCOPE AND THAT

02:03:14.019 --> 02:03:17.923
WAS VERY CLEAR AND I APPRECIATE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
MAKING THAT

02:03:17.990 --> 02:03:20.926
CLEAR. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT
PERCENTAGE OF THE CURRENT

02:03:20.993 --> 02:03:23.929
CASELOAD OF THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET HISTORIC COMMISSION

02:03:23.996 --> 02:03:28.934
THESE CHANGES REPRESENT? IT
WOULD BE MAYBE MY FIRST
QUESTION.

02:03:29.001 --> 02:03:31.937
HOW MUCH OF THEIR WORK IS TAKEN
UP WITH THINGS THAT WOULD

02:03:32.004 --> 02:03:32.938
FALL WITHIN THESE AREAS FOR
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW?

02:03:33.005 --> 02:03:38.944
&gt;&gt; SO, I DON'T HAVE

02:03:39.011 --> 02:03:42.948
THE STATISTICS FOR WHAT THE
PROPOSED LEGISLATION,

02:03:43.015 --> 02:03:45.951
HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT WHAT GOES
TO THE BOARD

02:03:46.018 --> 02:03:53.926
OR WHAT IS REVIEWED BY STAFF,
BUT I CAN GIVE YOU 2022. SO,

02:03:53.993 --> 02:03:56.929
THIS YEAR, UNDER THE COVID
LEGISLATION, WENT

02:03:56.996 --> 02:04:00.933
TO THE COMMISSION, VERSUS WHAT
WAS REVIEWED BY THE STAFF.

02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:02.935
FOR THE PIKE PLACE MARKET
COMMISSION, I BELIEVE THERE WERE
31 APPLICATIONS

02:04:03.002 --> 02:04:09.008
REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION AT A
PUBLIC MEETING

02:04:09.074 --> 02:04:12.011
AND THEN FOR APPLICATIONS THAT
WERE ADMINISTRATIVELY

02:04:12.077 --> 02:04:15.581
REVIEWED BY STAFF FOR THIS YEAR,
UNDER THE

02:04:15.648 --> 02:04:16.782
COVID RULES.

02:04:16.849 --> 02:04:24.990
&gt;&gt; SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS

02:04:25.057 --> 02:04:26.992
A FAIRLY --AMOUNT OF
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEWS RELATIVE
TO THE TOTAL CASELOAD

02:04:27.059 --> 02:04:28.994
OF THE COMMISSION.

02:04:29.061 --> 02:04:36.001
&gt;&gt; YES. &gt;&gt; PARTICULARLY GIVEN
THAT THE PROPOSED PROVISIONS ARE
MORE

02:04:36.068 --> 02:04:39.004
LIMITED IN SCOPE THAN THE
TEMPORARY PROVISIONS.

02:04:39.071 --> 02:04:44.009
&gt;&gt; ONE THING I FEEL LIKE

02:04:44.076 --> 02:04:47.012
I SHOULD POINT OUT, TOO, IS THAT
IF THERE IS AN APPLICATION

02:04:47.079 --> 02:04:51.016
THAT STAFF FEELS DOES NOT MEET
THE GUIDELINES OR THE RULES,

02:04:51.083 --> 02:04:55.020
THEY WILL FORWARD THAT TO THE
COMMISSION.

02:04:55.087 --> 02:05:02.995
SO THERE IS THAT FLEXIBILITY,
TOO.

02:05:03.062 --> 02:05:05.064
&gt;&gt; HAS THERE BEEN, MOVING TO AN
ADDITIONAL QUESTION, HAS THERE

02:05:05.130 --> 02:05:09.001
BEEN A REQUEST FROM THE HISTORIC
COMMISSION AS

02:05:09.068 --> 02:05:13.005
AN INSTITUTION TO

02:05:13.072 --> 02:05:15.007
HAVE THESE PARTICULAR AREAS
CONTINUE TO BE REVIEWED
ADMINISTRATIVELY? IS

02:05:15.074 --> 02:05:24.016
THIS SOMETHING THEY HAVE ASKED
FOR? LIKE, DOES

02:05:24.083 --> 02:05:29.989
THIS POSE A BURDEN ON THEIR
CURRENT OPERATIONS? IF IT IS FOR
APPLICATIONS

02:05:30.055 --> 02:05:35.995
--IT DOESN'T REALLY SOUND LIKE
AN ESSENTIAL REALLOCATION OF
LABOR

02:05:36.061 --> 02:05:38.998
FOR THE VIABILITY OF THEIR
CASELOAD. SO I JUST WANTED
CLARIFICATION

02:05:39.064 --> 02:05:45.004
ON IF THEY HAVE WEIGHED IN.

02:05:45.070 --> 02:05:51.010
&gt;&gt; THEY HAVE WEIGHED IN AND

02:05:51.076 --> 02:05:59.018
I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THEY
DID NOT WANT ANY ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW.

02:05:59.084 --> 02:06:02.988
&gt;&gt; RIGHT, SO I GUESS WHERE IT
SORT OF COMES DOWN THEN FOR

02:06:03.055 --> 02:06:08.994
ME IS IF IT IS A FAIRLY MINIMAL
LEVEL OF THINGS THAT WOULD GO TO
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW

02:06:09.061 --> 02:06:15.000
AND THE INSTITUTION IS NOT
REQUESTING IT AND THE COMMUNITY
IS

02:06:15.067 --> 02:06:20.005
CLEARLY NOT REQUESTING IT, THEN
THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE

02:06:20.072 --> 02:06:23.008
AREA TO BE CARVED OUT OF THE
UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. I THINK
DURING

02:06:23.075 --> 02:06:27.012
THE PRESENTATION, THE PANEL
INDICATED THAT

02:06:27.079 --> 02:06:30.015
THERE WAS A MORE MUTED RESPONSE
FROM THE PIKE

02:06:30.082 --> 02:06:33.018
PLACE MARKET COMMUNITY AND
CANVASSING THE HISTORIC
DISTRICTS.

02:06:33.085 --> 02:06:36.021
I THINK THAT IS A COLOSSAL
UNDERSTATEMENT

02:06:36.088 --> 02:06:41.994
OF THE CONCERN THAT FOLKS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ARE FEELING

02:06:42.061 --> 02:06:44.997
AND I AM NOT IMPUGNING ILL
INTENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS

02:06:45.064 --> 02:06:48.000
ON THIS.

02:06:48.067 --> 02:06:51.003
I DO THINK THAT SEEKING AREAS
FOR STREAMLINING

02:06:51.070 --> 02:06:55.007
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW IS A GOOD
POLICY AND IT SEEMS LIKE

02:06:55.074 --> 02:06:57.009
IN MOST OF THE HISTORIC
DISTRICTS WHERE THIS IS BEEN
CRAFTED, IT IS

02:06:57.076 --> 02:07:02.014
A VIABLE POLICY. BUT THE MARKET
IS A VERY

02:07:02.081 --> 02:07:07.019
UNIQUE COMMUNITY, AS WE ALL
HEARD TODAY AND IT

02:07:07.086 --> 02:07:09.021
IS A GREAT PRIVILEGE TO
REPRESENT THAT COMMUNITY. WHILE
I HAVE A LOT

02:07:09.088 --> 02:07:13.993
OF RESPECT FOR THE WORK

02:07:14.059 --> 02:07:14.994
THAT WENT INTO CRAFTING THIS, AS
A COUNCILMEMBER I AM GUIDED BY
WHAT

02:07:15.060 --> 02:07:19.999
IS BEING REQUESTED BY
CONSTITUENTS

02:07:20.065 --> 02:07:21.000
AND NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IS
BEING PROMULGATED FROM
DEPARTMENTS AS WHERE

02:07:21.066 --> 02:07:24.003
I WEIGH IN ON MY PREFERENCES.
GIVEN THE CONFIRMATION

02:07:24.069 --> 02:07:32.011
THAT THIS IS A SMALL PART OF THE
OVERALL CASELOAD

02:07:32.077 --> 02:07:33.012
AND THE COMMISSION ITSELF IS NOT
REQUESTING THIS CHANGE IN
DOESN'T THINK THEY

02:07:33.078 --> 02:07:37.016
NEED IT TO OPERATE EFFECTIVELY,

02:07:37.082 --> 02:07:42.021
I AM JUST ANNOUNCING RIGHT NOW,
TODAY, AND I WANT TO GIVE
INSTRUCTION TO

02:07:42.087 --> 02:07:44.990
LISH THAT I WILL BE SEEKING AN
AMENDMENT

02:07:45.057 --> 02:07:47.993
TO CARVE THE MARKET OUT AND I DO
THINK THAT

02:07:48.060 --> 02:07:50.996
IS THE APPROPRIATE COURSE OF
ACTION TO TAKE. IT IS NOT A
COMMENT ON THE

02:07:51.063 --> 02:07:53.999
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT
I THINK IT IS SOMETHING AS WE
SEE HOW

02:07:54.066 --> 02:07:57.002
THIS WORKS IN OTHER HISTORIC
DISTRICTS WHERE THE PROPOSAL
WILL GO THROUGH

02:07:57.069 --> 02:08:03.008
AND WHERE IT IS BEING GRATEFULLY
ACCEPTED, THAT THE MARKET
COMMUNITY

02:08:03.075 --> 02:08:06.011
CAN PERHAPS LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE
OF HOW

02:08:06.078 --> 02:08:12.017
IT IS APPLIED IN OTHER PLACES
AND AT A FUTURE DATE, CONSIDER

02:08:12.084 --> 02:08:15.020
EXTENDING THIS PRACTICE TO THEIR
WORK. BUT IT DOES NOT SOUND

02:08:15.087 --> 02:08:17.990
LIKE THERE WILL BE AN UNDUE
BURDEN IN CARVING

02:08:18.057 --> 02:08:21.994
THEM OUT AND IT IS NOTABLE THAT
IN PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, WE DID
NOT

02:08:22.061 --> 02:08:26.999
HEAR FROM ANY OTHER DISTRICT
CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT.

02:08:27.066 --> 02:08:30.002
WE DID OVERWHELMINGLY HEAR FROM
THE PIKE PLACE MARKET COMMUNITY
THAT THIS

02:08:30.069 --> 02:08:37.009
IS SOMETHING OF GREAT CONCERN
AND SOMETHING

02:08:37.076 --> 02:08:39.011
THAT THEY WOULD RATHER, AT THIS
TIME, NOT HAVE APPLIED TO THE
PIKE PLACE

02:08:39.078 --> 02:08:42.014
MARKET HISTORIC COMMISSION. SO I
DO WANT

02:08:42.081 --> 02:08:45.017
TO FLAG THAT FOR THE VIEWING
PUBLIC AND

02:08:45.084 --> 02:08:49.021
FOR CENTRAL STAFF THAT WHEN THIS
COMES UP AGAIN IN THE NEW YEAR,
I AM, BASED

02:08:49.088 --> 02:08:51.623
ON ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS
TODAY, GOING TO SEEK AN
AMENDMENT

02:08:51.690 --> 02:08:53.425
TO REMOVE THE MARKET FROM THIS
LEGISLATION.

02:08:53.492 --> 02:08:56.995
SO I DO THINK THE PANEL FOR
THEIR ANSWERS

02:08:57.062 --> 02:08:59.998
AND ON THE WHOLE, THANK THEM FOR
LEGISLATION

02:09:00.065 --> 02:09:03.001
THAT DOES SEEM WELL TAILORED TO
THE NEEDS OF

02:09:03.068 --> 02:09:09.007
OTHER DISTRICTS WHERE IT IS
ANTICIPATED TO APPLY.

02:09:09.074 --> 02:09:14.012
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.

02:09:14.079 --> 02:09:18.016
MY QUESTIONS WERE ALONG A
SIMILAR VEIN, BUT MAYBE THE
FLIPSIDE

02:09:18.083 --> 02:09:21.019
OF THE COIN AND I CAN FOLLOW UP
LATER, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED

02:09:21.086 --> 02:09:26.992
TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE FOUR

02:09:27.059 --> 02:09:29.995
ITEMS. STAFF REFERENCED A TABLE
THAT LISH CREATED WHICH I WOULD
ENCOURAGE

02:09:30.062 --> 02:09:31.997
EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT.

02:09:32.064 --> 02:09:39.004
IT LISTS THE 28 DIFFERENT
CATEGORIES OF POTENTIAL CHANGE,
ALONG WITH THE

02:09:39.071 --> 02:09:42.007
EIGHT DIFFERENT BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS.

02:09:42.074 --> 02:09:54.019
DISTRICTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO
THIS LEGISLATION. SO, OF THE 28,

02:09:54.086 --> 02:09:56.989
FOUR WOULD APPLY TO THE MARKET.
MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL,

02:09:57.055 --> 02:10:02.995
TELECOM ELEMENTS, FIRE AND
SAFETY, AS MENTIONED,
ACCESSIBILITY, AND SEISMIC.

02:10:03.061 --> 02:10:08.934
WHICH, NOT BEING AN ENGINEER, I
WILL SAY

02:10:09.001 --> 02:10:11.937
SEEM FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, SEEM LIKE
THESE ARE TYPICAL THINGS THAT
BUILDINGS

02:10:12.004 --> 02:10:17.943
MUST HAVE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS
SAFETY IN A BUILDING

02:10:18.010 --> 02:10:20.946
AND SAFETY FOR PEOPLE INSIDE THE
BUILDING. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE

02:10:21.013 --> 02:10:23.949
A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION
ABOUT HOW THOSE

02:10:24.016 --> 02:10:29.922
RELATE TO THE HISTORIC NATURE OF
THE MARKET,

02:10:29.988 --> 02:10:32.925
RATHER THAN SIMPLY GETTING THE
SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS

02:10:32.991 --> 02:10:36.929
NECESSARY FOR THE BUILDING AND
MORE QUICKLY, PRESUMABLY,
THROUGH

02:10:36.995 --> 02:10:42.935
AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

02:10:43.001 --> 02:10:46.939
SO, MORE DISCUSSION. WE WILL NOT
BE VOTING ON THIS BILL TODAY,

02:10:47.005 --> 02:10:52.945
SO THERE IS TIME, ESPECIALLY IF
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS WILL BE
BRINGING AN AMENDMENT,

02:10:53.011 --> 02:10:53.946
FOR US TO CONTINUE DISCUSSING
THIS.

02:10:54.012 --> 02:10:58.951
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THESE GO
AHEAD.

02:10:59.017 --> 02:11:00.953
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST I
WANT TO THANK DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS

02:11:01.019 --> 02:11:02.921
FOR STEPPING UP DURING THE
PANDEMIC TO

02:11:02.988 --> 02:11:04.990
MOVE FORWARD THESE APPLICATIONS
AT A TIME WHEN

02:11:05.057 --> 02:11:10.929
PUBLIC MEETINGS COULD NOT TAKE
PLACE.

02:11:10.996 --> 02:11:15.934
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU
STEPPED UP DURING THE EMERGENCY.
THAT WAS

02:11:16.001 --> 02:11:18.937
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF
THESE DISTRICTS. I REALLY

02:11:19.004 --> 02:11:21.940
APPRECIATE, CHAIR, THAT WE ARE
NOT MAKING A DECISION

02:11:22.007 --> 02:11:24.943
RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE A
LOT OF OTHER QUESTIONS I MIGHT
HAVE.

02:11:25.010 --> 02:11:27.946
JUST BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE CAME
OUT TODAY,

02:11:28.013 --> 02:11:30.949
I DO FEEL COMPELLED TO TELL YOU
WHERE MY MIND IS AT AND WHAT
WOULD

02:11:31.016 --> 02:11:33.952
BE INFLUENCING MY DECISION.

02:11:34.019 --> 02:11:39.925
BASICALLY, FIRST OF ALL, THE
MAYOR ENDED THE STATE OF
EMERGENCY.

02:11:39.992 --> 02:11:45.931
I AM, I THINK THAT IT IS GOOD
GOVERNANCE TO GO BACK TO

02:11:45.998 --> 02:11:48.934
PRE-PANDEMIC POLICY MAKING
BECAUSE OF THE END OF THE
EMERGENCY.

02:11:49.001 --> 02:11:51.937
THAT IS SORT OF MY PERSPECTIVE
ACROSS THE BOARD ON ALL OF

02:11:52.004 --> 02:11:55.941
THE PANDEMIC ERA

02:11:56.008 --> 02:12:06.952
LEGISLATION THAT CHANGED
PROCESSES. SO, SECOND OF ALL,
THIS IS ALWAYS MY FALLBACK.

02:12:07.019 --> 02:12:09.921
IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS

02:12:09.988 --> 02:12:12.924
AND IT IS CLEAR THAT THE
CAPABILITIES REPRESENTED

02:12:12.991 --> 02:12:18.930
IN THIS ROOM FOR MAKING SURE THE

02:12:18.997 --> 02:12:23.935
MARKET IS SEISMICALLY SOUND AND
THE OTHER

02:12:24.002 --> 02:12:30.942
TECHNICAL CHANGES THAT THIS
WOULD INFLUENCE HAVE BEEN
HANDLED VERY

02:12:31.009 --> 02:12:33.945
ABLY BY THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM
AND IN THE COMMUNITY. FINALLY,
MOST

02:12:34.012 --> 02:12:36.948
IMPORTANT TO MY DECISION IS
BASICALLY WHAT CONSTITUENTS WANT

02:12:37.015 --> 02:12:41.953
AND SOMETIMES THAT IS HARD TO
GET AT. BECAUSE

02:12:42.020 --> 02:12:43.922
WHO CAN COME TO A MEETING AND
WHO IS REALLY

02:12:43.989 --> 02:12:45.924
PAYING ATTENTION? IN THIS CASE
IT IS CLEAR THAT THERE IS
UNANIMOUS SUPPORT

02:12:45.991 --> 02:12:51.930
FOR MOVING THIS

02:12:51.997 --> 02:12:58.937
--SO THAT IS WHAT IS INFLUENCING
MY DECISION AND I APPRECIATE THE

02:12:59.004 --> 02:13:00.939
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS HAS SIGNALED
HE IS PUTTING FORWARD AN
AMENDMENT AND

02:13:01.006 --> 02:13:06.945
I AM LIKELY TO SUPPORT THAT. SO,
THAT IS

02:13:07.012 --> 02:13:09.948
WHERE I AM COMING FROM AND I
APPRECIATE THE SLIDE OF THE

02:13:10.015 --> 02:13:12.951
GRAPH SHOWING SATISFACTION WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF

02:13:13.018 --> 02:13:17.923
NEIGHBORHOODS WORK DURING THE
PANDEMIC

02:13:17.989 --> 02:13:21.927
OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
THAT THE DEPARTMENT

02:13:21.993 --> 02:13:23.929
HAS PROVIDED.

02:13:23.995 --> 02:13:25.931
I AM WONDERING, AND WE CAN TALK
ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE,

02:13:25.997 --> 02:13:29.935
BUT IT IS STRIKING TO ME THAT
ONLY ONE DISTRICT HAS REALLY
VOICED OPPOSITION

02:13:30.001 --> 02:13:33.939
TO THIS AND I AM WONDERING IF
THE QUESTION

02:13:34.005 --> 02:13:35.941
WAS PUT TO THE OTHERS.

02:13:36.007 --> 02:13:43.949
DO YOU WANT TO ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW --DO YOU

02:13:44.015 --> 02:13:45.951
WANT THE EMERGENCY LEGISLATION
TO CARRY FORWARD WHEN IT COMES
TO ADMINISTRATIVE

02:13:46.017 --> 02:13:50.922
REVIEW? BECAUSE THAT IS
DIFFERENT

02:13:50.989 --> 02:13:52.924
THAN SAYING YOU ARE SATISFIED
WITH HOW WELL THE DEPARTMENT OF

02:13:52.991 --> 02:13:54.926
NEIGHBORHOODS HAS SERVED THESE
DISTRICTS.

02:13:54.993 --> 02:13:57.929
SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:13:57.996 --> 02:14:00.932
&gt;&gt; THANK YOU.

02:14:00.999 --> 02:14:06.004
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

02:14:06.071 --> 02:14:13.011
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, ANY
FINAL COMMENTS?

02:14:13.078 --> 02:14:19.017
LISH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU
WANTED TO COMMENT ON? OKAY,

02:14:19.084 --> 02:14:22.020
AS I SAID WE WON'T BE VOTING ON
THIS TODAY. THE NEXT MEETING OF
THIS

02:14:22.087 --> 02:14:24.990
COMMITTEE WILL BE JANUARY 27.

02:14:25.056 --> 02:14:27.993
WE HAVE HAD TO CANCEL OUR
JANUARY 13 MEETING,

02:14:28.059 --> 02:14:33.999
SO THAT WILL BE THE NEXT
OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION

02:14:34.065 --> 02:14:37.002
AND AT THAT POINT I DO
ANTICIPATE MOVING ON THIS. OKAY,
IF THERE IS

02:14:37.068 --> 02:14:40.005
NO OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE, THIS CONCLUDES

02:14:40.071 --> 02:14:45.010
THE NOVEMBER 9 MEETING AND AS I
SAID

02:14:45.076 --> 02:14:49.014
THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS
JANUARY 27 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

02:14:49.080 --> 02:14:54.085
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

