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-Hello.
I'm your host, Brian Callanan.

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Why are three councilmembers
voting no on the city's budget?

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What impact will a new
911 alternative program

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have on public safety?

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And how close are we
to the promise

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of zero functional homelessness
in downtown Seattle?

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Councilmember Andrew Lewis
answers these questions

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and the ones
you're standing in, too,

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next on "Council Edition."

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-Look, people want to live here.
People want to build here.

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People want to start
a business here.

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And we need to work
as a city government

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to make those decisions easier.

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-All that and more
coming up next

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on "City Inside Out:
Council Edition."

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And here we are from District 7,

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Councilmember Andrew J. Lewis.

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Thank you very much for being
with me, Councilmember Lewis.

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-Great to be here.

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-And let's jump
right into it here.

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I want to focus
on the recently passed budget

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for this show here.

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This was a very difficult
process for the council

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after this economic forecast
a few weeks ago

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showed some major shortfalls
ahead in tax revenue.

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I'll get to that
in a minute here.

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But there was this one
major point of contention

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on the council,
this decision to eliminate

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80 unfilled positions on
the Seattle Police Department.

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This prompted
Councilmember Pederson

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to join councilmembers
Nelson and Sawant

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in voting no on that budget.

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Here's what he said
earlier this week.

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-I cannot in good conscience
endorse a final budget

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that I believe fails
to learn from recent

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public policy mistakes
on public safety

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and falls short on public safety
for a third year in a row.

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-Full disclosure -- I invited

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Councilmember Pederson
to be on this show.

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He wasn't able
to make it happen.

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But police hiring
is a big issue.

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I always get e-mails about this.
I know you do, too.

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One viewer wrote this.

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Thank you very much
for the message.

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I'm not sure if we're there
at that point,

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but Councilmember Lewis,
can you tell me

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how you look at this issue
of police hiring?

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And what message
does abrogating 80 positions

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say about public safety?

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-Yeah, well, you know,
I was pretty clear in my vote

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against doing the abrogation.

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I voted against abrogation
last year.

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I voted against it this year.
-Mm-hmm.

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-I don't think it sends
the right message

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until we have stood up robust

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and well-funded
alternative response systems,

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which we're well on our way
to doing in this budget.

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And we can talk about
that later.

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-Sure.
-But I didn't think that

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the abrogation was
the right move to make.

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I will say I'm very critical,

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while I respect my colleagues,
of the decision

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to use voting on the budget
as a mechanism for protest.

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I don't think
that it's responsible

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to tank the entire
$1.6 billion General Fund

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based on one area
of disagreement.

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-Right, because you voted for
that full budget in approval.

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-Yeah, all of us did.
-Yeah.

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-You're supposed to.
-Yeah.

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-The city needs a budget.
We need to write paychecks.

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Brian, we need to give you
a paycheck.

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-Right.
-You're a city employee.

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We need to give paychecks.
-I'm an independent contractor.

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-Yes, no. Understood, yeah.

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We need to give paychecks
to our police and firefighters.

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All of that requires a budget.

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We need to pay debt
and interest on bonds

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that we borrowed as a city.
-Mm-hmm.

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-And voting down a budget is
a reckless and dangerous thing.

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It's never been done before,

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and it shouldn't be normalized
as a protest tactic.

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And we've all been critical
in the past

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when Councilmember Sawant
has used voting no on the budget

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as a mechanism to protest.

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And I think we should be just
as critical when other people,

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when they don't get their way on
one or two budget items, to say,

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"We're gonna tank every single
service in the city.

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We're gonna tank parks,
we're gonna tank libraries,

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we're gonna tank
the police department."

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-Right.
-And, you know,

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one other thing that I'll say --

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Mayor Harrell praised
this budget.

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You know, we had a statement
yesterday from Mayor Harrell

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praising the investments
in public safety,

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praising the full funding
of his recruitment

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and retention plan
for Seattle police.

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-And the hiring plan for SPD,
right.

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-The hiring plan for SPD.

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Mayor Harrell came out and said
this was a public safety budget,

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and I agree with him on that,
and my colleagues who voted

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in the majority agree
with him on that.

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And I don't think
we can normalize this tactic

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where if there's one thing

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you don't like in the budget,
you vote it down.

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I think that leads to
a very dangerous

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Washington, D.C., level
of brinkmanship

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in how we do politics
in the city.

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And it's unprecedented.
-Yeah.

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-So, you know, I didn't get
my way on the abrogation.

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I voted with
Councilmember Pederson

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and Councilmember Nelson
against the abrogation.

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But at the end of the day,
we need a budget.

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We need to pay our bills.
-Right.

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-So I don't think
it's a valid protest tactic

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to say we're gonna tank
the whole budget

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if we don't get our way
on one thing.

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-Jumping on that abrogation
piece just for a second, though,

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if the police department looks
like it's going to hire

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a net of maybe 30 officers
next year

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is what it looks like here,

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abrogating these positions
that they're not going to fill

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when there's 200-some odd that
Mayor Harrell put in the budget

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there initially there,

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it would seem to make sense
to take those back

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and then ask the SPD to ask
for them later on down the line,

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I think is the logic that

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the rest of the council
was working with here.

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-Well, see, my preference
would have been, Brian,

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that we keep
the position authority,

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but if there's surplus money,
we be flexible

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in working with Mayor Harrell
to move the money.

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-Okay.
-And that's actually

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what we did in this budget,

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and that was what
Mayor Harrell proposed.

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And I thought that was
the right course.

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-Okay.
-Doing the permanent abrogation,

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it just didn't sit right
with me right now,

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given the public safety
situation that we're seeing.

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But, you know, that wasn't
what carried the day

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with my colleagues,
and this is the budget we have.

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I would say, again, you know,
myself, Mayor Harrell --

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we support this final budget.

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It gives us the tools we need
to start turning the corner.

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And we're seeing signs of that

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in parts of the city,
in downtown and other places,

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where we are making a lot of
progress with our partnership

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as a council and a mayor
on these problems.

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And this budget is gonna
help us with that effort.

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-Got it. I
want to talk about

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another important issue
with police.

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So, the council adopted
Mayor Harrell's plan

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to move parking enforcement
officers back to the SPD.

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They've been housed in
the Seattle Department

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of Transportation
for the past year.

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That hasn't worked out
all that well.

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The eventual home
for these officers

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may not be with the SPD,
but this is a move

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that could save about $5 million
in administrative costs,

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according to
the mayor's office here.

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I know a lot of councilmembers
wanted to keep these PEOs

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in the Department
of Transportation.

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How did you come
to this agreement here?

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-Well, really, for me,
what it came down to

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was the ability
to save some money

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and programmatically expand

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some other public safety
opportunities

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by doing that move.
-Okay.

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-And that was really --

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it was not worth
$5 million a year

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to keep them in SDOT
doing the exact same thing,

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the exact same job.

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The interaction with the public
is not gonna change

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based on this decision.

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But we got $5 million additional
in the budget

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to make sure that we can expand

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the Law Enforcement
Assisted Diversion,

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now known as Let Everyone
Advance with Dignity.

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-Yeah.
-We got money to invest

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in public safety efforts
downtown on Third Avenue,

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money that we would not have had

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if we had insisted on keeping
the parking officers in SDOT.

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So that's what it really
came down to,

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is just the practicality of,

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what can I do to maximize
the public safety benefit

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for the people of District 7?

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And it was moving them
back to SPD.

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There's gonna be no difference
in the service

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you're gonna get
from parking enforcement.

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But that move gives us
the opportunity

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to expand additional
public safety programming

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that we wouldn't be
able to do otherwise.

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And that's what it was for me.

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-The eventual home
in the Communications Center --

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I know there's been
some talk about that, too.

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-Yes, I mean, I do still want
to move parking enforcement,

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ultimately, to a role

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where their full civilian impact
can be realized.

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-Yeah.
-This is a longer story.

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This could be a whole thing
in and of itself.

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-You're right.
-But Councilmember Herbold and I

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really wanted to move them
to the CSCC back in the day,

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because we wanted to also
expand their role.

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We didn't want them just
to do parking enforcement,

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but to really follow up

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on some recommendations
from their union,

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SPEOG,
the Parking Enforcement Guild,

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where they wanted to expand
their role to

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taking reports on car theft...

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-Sure.
-...to try to, you know --

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doing a bigger amount
of the traffic direction.

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-Sure.
-You know, these are things

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they wanted to take on in a role
that could be expanded

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and built up as
civilian enforcement officers.

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And that role was never
really embraced

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by the previous
Durkan administration.

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-Yes.
-I think there's an opening

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with Mayor Harrell
to do something similar.

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Mayor Harrell's talked about
creating a new

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civilian public safety
department, for example.

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-Right.
-Whether that's something

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where the CSCC serves

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as the nucleus
for that new project,

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or whether it's a completely
additional department,

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we have yet to see.

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But my hope is that
the parking enforcement officers

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could find a role there and that
their role could be expanded

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to being more of
a civilian enforcement officer

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with broader mandate
than just traffic enforcement.

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-Yeah.
-And being in SDOT,

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it was basically, you know,
as the name implies, right --

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Department Transportation --
your role is gonna stay

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doing the parking enforcement.
-Yeah.

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-You know, I don't want
to speak for all my colleagues,

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but Councilmember Herbold
and I have really been

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advocates of this position that

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these civilian officers could
take on a much bigger role,

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and it could free up
police officer time

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to focus on things
only they can do

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and that they need to be doing.

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-Let me talk about
another issue with public safety

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that you've been working on
for some time here

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to provide an alternative
to 911,

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a response that would involve
a mental health worker

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and a police officer
potentially.

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There's money in the budget
for this,

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a dual dispatch
type of program here.

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I want to know when
we're gonna see it launch,

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what it would look like,

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and what impact you think
it's gonna have.

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-So I'm more optimistic on this
than I've ever been

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in the last couple of years.

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And as you know, Brian,
this has been --

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-You've been working on this
a while.

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-This has been a very big
priority of mine

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since at least June of 2020...
-Yeah.

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-...probably a little bit
earlier than that.

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But I think this is really
the center of gravity

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of what community has really
been demanding

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ever since we started
really reevaluating,

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how do we do public safety
in the city of Seattle,

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has been, there's this big
category of calls

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that don't require
a gun-and-badge response,

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and we can diversify
our response

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based on what other
jurisdictions are doing

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to make sure
that police are going to things

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only they can respond to.

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We want police
focusing on burglaries.

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We want police focusing
on robberies.

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We want police
focusing on things

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that are criminal violations
in the city

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that they need to respond to

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and where their response
is necessary and appropriate.

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But there's all these
other things

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related to extreme poverty,

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related to mental health,
substance addiction,

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where other cities
have really shown us

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that alternative responses
can be incredibly effective

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and can save officer time

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so that they can focus more
on these things

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that are really affecting
our quality of life.

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I'm talking to business
districts all the time

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that are suffering
from spates of burglaries,

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you know, at like
3:00 to 6:00 in the morning.

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And it'd be great
to have more officer emphasis

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in business districts
to be able to do that

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because we've freed up
response time and capacity

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by adding these alternative
responses

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for things
they don't need to do.

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So in terms of the process
we set up,

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we're gonna have a pilot
that we've worked out

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with the Harrell administration

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to do a dual dispatch response.

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Let me just briefly break down
what that means.

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-Yeah.
-So dual dispatch means

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that there'd be this completely
independent civilian team.

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In other cities, typically,

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this involves
a mental health clinician

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and then maybe like
a social worker or like an EMT.

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-Okay.
-But this team, it's typically

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two members with a van
or maybe an SUV

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that has some equipment in it.
-Sure.

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-They can respond dually
with the police.

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So the police are in
their own separate vehicles.

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-Sure
-911 call comes in.

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And the dispatcher,
the 911 dispatcher, can say,

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"Okay, I'm gonna dispatch this
low-acuity public health team."

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-Right.
-"And I'm gonna

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dispatch the police"...
-Yeah.

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-..."both separately
at the same time."

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But if the social worker team
gets there first

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and it's something
that they can handle,

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they would be in a position
to be able

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to screen SPD off the call,
right?

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Or they'd be able to say,
"You know, we got here.

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It's not dangerous."
-Yeah.

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-"We can handle it.
We're trained to handle it.

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We can, you know -- SPD,
you can screen off."

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So it can save
that officer car time,

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because then they can
screen off the call

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and they can be redirected
to a call only they can do.

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-Right.
-That is the concept

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of what we're trying to do here
with a dual dispatch.

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It is different
from co-response,

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which is the model that's like
our crisis intervention team,

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which we're still gonna have
and which is still

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really, really, really
important.

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But that is the system
where you have an officer

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and a social worker
in the same car.

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-Yeah.
-And we're still gonna have that

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because there are
certain circumstances

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where that is
the appropriate response.

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But there's these other things
where this public health team

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really can do this on its own.

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So I just wanted to
break down those different --

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so we will have co-response
and dual response

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and police response.
-Okay...

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-...in our portfolio in 2023.
-Right.

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-In terms of moving forward,
you know, we passed the budget,

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and this is gonna go forward now
to be implemented

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by the Harrell ministration.
-Right.

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-We have something
that I know you've discussed

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before called a term sheet...
-Yes.

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-...with the Harrell
administration,

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where we are working
in close partnership

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with a dual work team
of council and executive staff.

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And I'm hoping that now
that the budget's done,

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we're gonna have a better sense
on what that timeline is

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in the coming weeks.
-Okay.

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-So we don't know
what the timeline is.

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We had to fund it first.
Sure, sure.

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-Now that we've done that,

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the term sheet
can move forward to say,

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"All right, let's get the rubber
on the road, literally,

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and, like, let's get this team
out there."

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But look, Brian, I'll just say

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we have lots of great
national examples

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to draw inspiration from.

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This is being done in in Denver,
it's being done in Albuquerque,

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it's being done
in Fort Worth, Eugene.

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In Denver, it's correlated
to a 34% reduction of crime

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in the downtown area of Denver.
-Yeah.

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-So this really can be a game
changer once it's on the road.

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And I'm hoping it will be.

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And I believe the Harrell
administration believes

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the same thing as the council,
as manifested in the term sheet

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and really their support
for this concept in the budget

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and baking it into their initial
budget that we just approved.

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-Thank you for breaking
all those pieces down.

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I wanted to move on
to human services

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with you if I could.

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This budget largely reflects

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what Mayor Harrell
originally proposed,

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but the council did push back
on his plan to reduce

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a cost of inflation raise
for human services workers.

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He wanted to spread it out
over a couple years.

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The council says,
"Let's do it now,"

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wants to uphold those raises
for people

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who really are
the frontline workers

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in the crisis of homelessness.

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Let me know
went into this decision

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and why this was important.

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-Well, public safety is broader
than badges and guns,

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and we've been discussing that
on this show and in public.

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And the police have a critical
and indispensable role.

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And it was really important
in this budget

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that we support the police,

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that we fully fund
the hiring and retention plan.

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I would argue it was just
as important that we make sure

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that we focused on the retention
and recruitment challenges

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our service providers
are experiencing.

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There's a lot of work that folks
on the streets of Seattle

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are doing to work on people

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who are in a cycle
of public health challenge

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that is resulting in them
breaking the social contract

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and creating public disorder.
-Mm-hmm.

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-And the teams that have been
making really big differences

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on that --
you know, LEAD/Co-LEAD,

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Downtown Emergency
Service Center,

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I mean, you go down the list,
Catholic Community Services --

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these folks are having
a very difficult time recruiting

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and retaining people to do
incredibly challenging work

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in a really tough
economic environment.

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-Right.

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-And with inflation going
way up,

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it's just eating at
the limited wages and benefits

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that we've historically rewarded
those positions with.

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So I frankly don't think
what we did was enough.

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I think what we did
was the bare minimum.

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I am incredibly proud
that we were able to do it

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in a tough budget environment,
but I can't imagine

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what it would have done
to the social service end

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of our public safety work
if we had only given the folks

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doing that work
like a 4% increase

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instead of a true
inflationary increase.

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I think it would have
fallen off a cliff.

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And I think that we truly work
to avert disaster

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by fully funding the commitment
that we made an ordinance --

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the previous council.

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I was not on the council
when that ordinance passed,

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but by fully honoring
that commitment,

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we're really getting stability

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in a critical segment
of our social service

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and public safety work,
and we need to build on that

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by continuing to elevate
the standards, the benefits,

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the pay the people
in that work get.

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We need to treat them like the
first responders they are,

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and the city
will be safer for it.

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-Yeah, let me keep going down

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this human services path
with you

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because you and I had
a really good conversation

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about the King County
Regional Homelessness Authority

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a few weeks ago,
part of which I used

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on our "City Inside Out"
program.

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There are a few points you made

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that I couldn't get
into that show

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and I wanted
to follow up on this,

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specifically, this plan
from the KC RHA REACH --

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functional zero homelessness
in downtown Seattle

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sometime in 2023.

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Marc Dones, the CEO,
says it's going to happen.

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Do you agree?
Downtown in your district.

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Let's talk about it.

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-I feel more optimistic about it
than I have in the past.

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Let me put it this way,
you know, and I'll say this.

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Sorry, Marc,
I'll say this here.

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You know,
I was a little skeptical

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that we would be able
to achieve functional zero

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in the time frame
that the KC RHA put out.

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I am optimistic that we're
getting closer than ever before

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to realizing that
based on the energy

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and the organization that has
gone into Partnership for Zero,

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and I can just break it down
real briefly here,

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but essentially the work
that's been --

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the groundwork that's been
being laid this year

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is the King County
Regional Homelessness Authority

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has hired up
a bunch of system advocates

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who have been building
a by-name list

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of people
experiencing homelessness

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who are in and around
the downtown core.

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-Those advocates have
lived experience, too,

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as being homeless, yeah.

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-Yes, and have been
doing this work

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in some cases for many years.
-Right.

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-They're very experienced
and diligent people,

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and they've been generating
this by-name list,

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and at the same time,
they've also been building

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a list of potential housing
referrals and housing units.

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-They're working
with landlords on this stuff.

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-Yeah, and working
with landlords.

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So now they're at the point

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where everything is
kind of coming together,

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where they're matching
the by-name list

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to these housing referrals,
and they're all coordinating it

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through a very, very efficient
command center

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where all these providers
and system advocates

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are case conferencing.

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They're in the same room,

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and they're matchmaking
this by-name list

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to these housing referrals.

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You know, it's also important
to define functioning --

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Functional zero.
-Yeah.

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-And this is a term,
if we remember back

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to the partnerships that we've
done with Third Door Coalition,

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which is an alliance of service
providers and business owners,

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Functional zero was something
they talked about a lot

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because look at --
you know, unfortunately,

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I don't think
in the near future

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we're gonna completely be
a society without homelessness.

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But you can reach
functional zero in the sense

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that you can make homelessness
rare, brief, and temporary.

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So, you know, we're probably
still gonna have a situation

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going into February of next
year, January of next year,

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where there are gonna be people

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presenting as experiencing
homelessness downtown.

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But we're gonna have
a system that can help

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get that person
on a by-name list,

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give them access
to case conference resources,

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get them referrals to housing

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so that we don't have
a situation like we have had

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where you have chronic parts
of downtown that become

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massive encampments or become
massive concentrations

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of poverty and disorder

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because we don't have
our act together

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to be able to give people
something better as an offer.

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And KC RHA has really shown now
we have this very --

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the beginnings of what could be
a very efficient system

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to first identify folks
based on where they're at

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and what their needs are,

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case conference
through all of our resources,

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because there's big myriad
of resources,

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and the KC RHA actually,
just as a little plug,

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recently put out a database
of all those resources, which...

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-That's right. It's online.
-...is really, really helpful,

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and anyone in the public
can look at it.

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But you case conference
all of that together,

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and you match it to the housing.

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And we've never really had
something that efficient before,

00:20:16.067 --> 00:20:17.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
and that can really be
a game changer.

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And we're already seeing
the early signs that it will be.

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And that's not just me
saying that, right?

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I mean, that's, you know --

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We Are In, which is
a consortium of businesses

00:20:26.167 --> 00:20:28.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
that have been supporting this
and community leaders

00:20:28.367 --> 00:20:30.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
it's the
Downtown Seattle Association,

00:20:30.133 --> 00:20:31.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
it's the Greater Seattle
Chamber of Commerce.

00:20:31.868 --> 00:20:34.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
You know, we're bought in
on this regional approach.

00:20:34.334 --> 00:20:36.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
And, actually, one other plug.

00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:40.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
Our budget makes a bigger
investment than ever

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in the success of that system.

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And, you know, that is something
that we really need to do

00:20:47.667 --> 00:20:49.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
as people committed
to a regional solution.

00:20:49.467 --> 00:20:52.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
It really comes into,
are we putting our money

00:20:52.501 --> 00:20:54.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
behind the theory of change
we want to see?

00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:56.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And that's what we are doing
as a council in partnership

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with the business community,
with service providers,

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and with the King County
government.

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-Can I touch on another issue?

00:21:01.634 --> 00:21:04.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
Because the Council also made
investment in local schools

00:21:04.701 --> 00:21:06.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
following the shooting death
of a student

00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
at Ingraham High School
a few weeks ago.

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Hundreds of students,
as you know, came to City Hall,

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protested here
against gun violence,

00:21:12.367 --> 00:21:14.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
asked for more funding
for mental health counselors.

00:21:14.901 --> 00:21:18.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
The council made an investment
towards this goal of $4 million,

00:21:18.100 --> 00:21:20.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
a quarter of that
going to Ingraham directly.

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The budget chair called this
a down payment, I believe,

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and this is an issue here.

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The city can help in some ways,

00:21:25.267 --> 00:21:27.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
but this is a role for the state
really to jump in as well.

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Can you talk about this --
this investment,

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maybe some of the limitations
involved with it, too?

00:21:31.901 --> 00:21:33.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
This is a huge story
for our area.

00:21:33.801 --> 00:21:35.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
-Look, we did it
because we couldn't wait.

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And I give great credit
to Councilmember Mosqueda,

00:21:38.534 --> 00:21:41.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
great credit
to Council President Juarez,

00:21:41.067 --> 00:21:43.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
who had this horrible tragedy
occur in her district

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and who really came at the end
of the budget cycle to say,

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"You know, we need to put
our money where our values are,

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and this school system
needs this proper support

00:21:53.534 --> 00:21:55.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
for young people
who are troubled,

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who might use guns as a method
of resolving arguments,

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or we've increasingly
seen during COVID,

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young people committing
suicide with guns."

00:22:06.667 --> 00:22:09.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And the leadership
from Councilmember Mosqueda

00:22:09.734 --> 00:22:11.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
and Council President Juarez
in getting that in the budget

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was something I was
very proud to support,

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and I really appreciate
both of them as colleagues.

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To your point, Brian,

00:22:17.434 --> 00:22:20.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
the state really does need
to step up on this.

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Health care is a state issue.

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Behavioral mental health care
is definitely a state issue.

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I think this is one of
the biggest deficiencies

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that we've seen
in state government.

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We're seeing it dramatized
right now by King County,

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rightfully suing the state
for negligence

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in providing ample
behavioral mental health care

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in the King County jail,

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which has seen
an unprecedented number

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of suicides and mental health
crises during the COVID era,

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because -- and this was reported

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in "The Seattle Times"
yesterday.

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-Right, right.

00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
-And the state -- they're suing
the state to perform to say,

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"You are not living up
to your obligations

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to provide health care
to people that are

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in the King County jail."

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You can apply that
to the schools.

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You know, the City of Seattle
has been more generous

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than any other government
in stepping into a place

00:23:05.534 --> 00:23:07.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
where we don't have
a charter responsibility,

00:23:07.367 --> 00:23:09.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
but we have
a moral responsibility

00:23:09.300 --> 00:23:11.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
to provide this level of care.

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The last thing
that I'll say on this

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is I'm very excited
about the work

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that King County is doing

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and that I'm gonna be
engaging more with

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in the coming months
through my role

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on the Regional Policy Committee

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around the crisis intervention
centers.

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And I know you talked about
this recently on your podcast,

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but, you know,
King County right now

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has something like
16 crisis mental health beds

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for a county
of several million people.

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-Yeah.
-It's completely unacceptable.

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And this new proposal
from King County

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is gonna create five
crisis intervention centers.

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One is gonna be completely
dedicated to young people

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and to the unique issues
that present

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for the mental health challenges

00:23:50.267 --> 00:23:51.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
the young people
are experiencing

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in this really difficult time.
-Yeah.

00:23:53.534 --> 00:23:55.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
-That is gonna be
a game changer,

00:23:55.834 --> 00:23:57.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
and it's something
that I look forward

00:23:57.701 --> 00:23:59.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
to supporting on
the Regional Policy Committee

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and moving it forward.

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Huge props and credit
to Councilmember Zahilay,

00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
huge props and credit
to Executive Constantine

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on taking this on as an issue.

00:24:09.501 --> 00:24:12.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And I think that's
the next big step.

00:24:12.267 --> 00:24:13.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
You know, obviously
in the state legislature,

00:24:13.767 --> 00:24:15.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
we're gonna need to push
for comprehensive

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behavioral mental health care,
but these wellness centers

00:24:18.868 --> 00:24:20.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
are gonna make
a big difference, too.

00:24:20.300 --> 00:24:21.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And I'm looking forward
to making sure

00:24:21.834 --> 00:24:23.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
that service is synched up
with our schools.

00:24:23.801 --> 00:24:25.067 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
-Got it. I want to make sure

00:24:25.067 --> 00:24:27.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
that I touch on one issue
that's a big one here.

00:24:27.133 --> 00:24:29.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
I've got a couple minutes
to do it with you here.

00:24:29.501 --> 00:24:31.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
The big overall question
on the budget --

00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
use of the JumpStart
payroll tax here.

00:24:33.501 --> 00:24:35.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
This fund has performed
above expectations,

00:24:35.534 --> 00:24:38.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
and much of the budget shortfall
the city is experiencing now,

00:24:38.567 --> 00:24:41.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
a big drop in real estate
excise tax a part of that,

00:24:41.133 --> 00:24:42.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
has been patched up
with JumpStart.

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And I say patched up
because I don't think

00:24:44.167 --> 00:24:46.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
the council found
any more permanent solutions

00:24:46.434 --> 00:24:47.434 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
to this going forward.

00:24:47.434 --> 00:24:48.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
Let's talk about this.

00:24:48.501 --> 00:24:50.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
Another revenue shortage
is gonna be there

00:24:50.300 --> 00:24:52.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
the next time
the next budget rolls around.

00:24:52.267 --> 00:24:53.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
What's that longer-term
solution there?

00:24:53.834 --> 00:24:55.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
I've got about a minute
and a half.

00:24:55.634 --> 00:24:57.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
-Yeah, well, I think
there's two things.

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First, we do have
this revenue task force,

00:24:59.033 --> 00:25:01.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
and we're going to be having
a community conversation

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about what it might look like

00:25:03.267 --> 00:25:05.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
to pursue additional
progressive revenue

00:25:05.167 --> 00:25:07.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
to fill those gaps
in the long term.

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The second thing
that I would put out there

00:25:09.267 --> 00:25:12.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
is we really have a lot
of targeted investments

00:25:12.534 --> 00:25:13.934 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
in this budget cycle

00:25:13.934 --> 00:25:17.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
that are focused
on downtown revitalization.

00:25:17.734 --> 00:25:22.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
Downtown produces over 50% of
our General Fund tax receipts,

00:25:22.300 --> 00:25:25.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
and getting downtown
really humming again

00:25:25.767 --> 00:25:28.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
hopefully will make
a difference on our forecast.

00:25:28.334 --> 00:25:32.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
We are still a city that --
I think that we have

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the second most cranes of any
West Coast city right now.

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And, you know, construction is

00:25:37.968 --> 00:25:40.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
one of the big feeders
of our General Fund.

00:25:40.367 --> 00:25:42.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
Look, people want to live here.
People want to build here.

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People want to start
a business here.

00:25:44.334 --> 00:25:46.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And we need to work
as a city government

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to make those decisions easier.

00:25:47.701 --> 00:25:49.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And that's gonna have
an impact on our General Fund.

00:25:49.567 --> 00:25:51.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
So I don't think
it's just gonna be

00:25:51.601 --> 00:25:53.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
that progressive revenue work,
although we need to do that,

00:25:53.834 --> 00:25:55.334 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
and that's gonna be part of it.

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Another part of it is,
you know,

00:25:57.133 --> 00:25:59.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
let's get that
real estate excise tax up

00:25:59.167 --> 00:26:00.467 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
by making this a better place

00:26:00.467 --> 00:26:03.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
for people to come
and buy property.

00:26:03.267 --> 00:26:07.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
Let's get that sales tax up by
reinvigorating our retail core

00:26:07.100 --> 00:26:10.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
so that people
are coming downtown

00:26:10.100 --> 00:26:12.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
and patronizing
those businesses again.

00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
You know,
let's get that property tax up

00:26:15.133 --> 00:26:19.100 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
by building new construction,

00:26:19.100 --> 00:26:21.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
which increases
our property tax base.

00:26:21.133 --> 00:26:23.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
So I think part of it is,
let's increase the base

00:26:23.901 --> 00:26:25.067 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
of the modes that we have

00:26:25.067 --> 00:26:27.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
while we're also looking
at progressive taxation.

00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And that's what I'm looking
forward to in 2023.

00:26:29.133 --> 00:26:30.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
-Thank you.
I have one final question here.

00:26:30.634 --> 00:26:32.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
The city is about to announce
some big improvements

00:26:32.734 --> 00:26:35.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
coming to Memorial Stadium there
on the Seattle Center campus.

00:26:35.734 --> 00:26:37.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
You're a graduate of
The Center School right there

00:26:37.567 --> 00:26:39.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
on that campus,
and I wanted to know

00:26:39.167 --> 00:26:41.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
your thoughts about some
major changes, it sounds like,

00:26:41.534 --> 00:26:43.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
coming to your old
stomping grounds.

00:26:43.434 --> 00:26:45.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
-Yeah, well, the Seattle Center

00:26:45.367 --> 00:26:46.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
over the course
of the last 15 years,

00:26:46.934 --> 00:26:48.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
and, you know,
for part of that period,

00:26:48.334 --> 00:26:51.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
I had a front row seat
going to school on that campus,

00:26:51.133 --> 00:26:54.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
has really transformed
in an incredibly positive way.

00:26:54.033 --> 00:26:56.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
I mean, it's the cultural
center of our city.

00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
You know, the modern history
of our city

00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
is linked back
to the World's Fair.

00:27:00.667 --> 00:27:05.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
And all of the kind of
rough edges have been polished.

00:27:05.033 --> 00:27:07.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
Right? The Northwest Rooms,
which were falling apart,

00:27:07.467 --> 00:27:09.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
now it's the home
of the VERA Project,

00:27:09.300 --> 00:27:11.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
Seattle International
Film Festival, KEXP.

00:27:11.434 --> 00:27:12.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
-Yep.
-You know, KeyArena,

00:27:12.868 --> 00:27:15.067 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
which was sort of missionless,

00:27:15.067 --> 00:27:17.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
now the home of a new NHL team,

00:27:17.367 --> 00:27:20.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
hopefully soon an NBA team...
-Yeah.

00:27:20.234 --> 00:27:22.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
-...and this great modern
subterranean arena

00:27:22.767 --> 00:27:24.667 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
in Climate Pledge,

00:27:24.667 --> 00:27:27.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
The only rough patch,
the sore thumb of that campus,

00:27:27.968 --> 00:27:29.067 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
is Memorial Stadium.

00:27:29.067 --> 00:27:31.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
It's crumbling.
It's falling apart.

00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:33.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
It's fenced in. It's a blight.

00:27:33.901 --> 00:27:37.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
We are gonna be focusing on
a transformative partnership

00:27:37.133 --> 00:27:38.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90%
with the Seattle Public Schools

00:27:38.701 --> 00:27:41.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
that we have funded
in this budget

00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
to overhaul, to rebuild
that stadium,

00:27:43.334 --> 00:27:46.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
and hopefully have it be here
in time for the World Cup

00:27:46.300 --> 00:27:48.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90%
when we are hosting it
in a couple years.

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And it's gonna really
open up the campus.

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It's gonna be a beautiful
amenity for the community,

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and I'm really looking
forward to it.

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-USA, USA!
I can hear it from here.

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-Yes.
-Thank you very much,

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Councilmember Lewis,
for joining me.

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That's all the time we have here
on "Council Edition."

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We'll see you next time.

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