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-Hello. I'm your host,
Brian Callanan.

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Should the Seattle Park District
double the city's investments

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in our parks and public spaces?

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How will the Seattle City
Council's recommendations

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for new light-rail routes
impact your neighborhood?

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And what does the council think

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of Mayor Bruce Harold's
new police hiring plan?

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Councilmembers Andrew Lewis
and Alex Pedersen join me

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to answer these questions

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and the ones
you're sending in, too.

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Next, on "Council Edition."

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-Look, we need
some clear metrics

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on what the Parks Department
is going to do

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to realize this vision

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of a clean and safe
and open park district.

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-There's been more data
showing unacceptable increases

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in 911 response times

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and unacceptable increases
in crime.

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-All that and more
coming up next

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on "City Inside/Out:
Council Edition."

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And here they are joining me.

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I have with me
Councilmember Alex Pedersen,

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who represents District 4
in Northeast Seattle;

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and also
Councilmember Andrew Lewis,

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representing District 7,
from Pioneer Square to Magnolia.

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Thanks to you both
for joining me.

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I'm going to launch
right into this here

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and talk about the SPD --
the other SPD,

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the Seattle Park District.

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And, Councilmember Lewis,

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you're hosting some meetings
here in late July

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and also later this summer

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regarding the
Seattle Park District.

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Quick background --
the district was approved

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by voters in 2014, folks,
has its own taxing authority.

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The City Council is the
district's board of directors.

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And, Councilmember Lewis,
you're serving

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as president of that board
and there's a lot

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on the table here,
including a discussion

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about potentially doubling
the tax rates

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Seattleites would pay
for the Park District.

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I want to talk about that

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and your overall approach
to this process, please.

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-Brian, it's great to be here

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and thank you
for the opportunity

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to talk about the
Metropolitan Park District.

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The priority for the
Park District commissioners

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has to be are our parks clean,

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are they safe,
and are they open?

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Those are the things
the public expects

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from our great
and outstanding park system

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that I would put next to any
other city in the country,

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but that hasn't always been
well-maintained and -programmed,

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especially during these years
of COVID.

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The Park District offers us
an opportunity to really come in

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and make sure that our parks
are well-resourced,

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but to also make sure
those resources

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are being used accountably.

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We had a great meeting
this morning

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that Commissioner Pedersen
was involved in.

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We sit as commissioners,
when we do this work,

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and one of the themes
that really came through,

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from my colleagues
and from myself was,

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look, we need some clear metrics
on what the Parks Department

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is going to do
to realize this vision

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of a clean and safe
and open park district,

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where you can dependably rely

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on a bathroom being open
and being clean.

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You can depend
on your community center

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being open and well-programmed.

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This is the kind of work
that I'm interested in

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and we need to put a plan

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in front of any
potential investment.

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So, that's going to be the work
over the next couple months.

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I definitely invite
the public to participate.

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I'm hoping to have at least
two additional opportunities

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for public comment
out in the neighborhoods

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where we'll be going,
to North and South Seattle,

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to have, hopefully,
some in-person events.

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Definitely encourage people
to reach out to my office

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to learn more about the process
and to comment

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on their priorities
for the Park District.

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But again, it's critical
that our open spaces be clean,

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they be safe, and they be open.

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-Got it.
Councilmember Pedersen,

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maybe I can go to you
on this one,

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because I know you've raised
some concerns

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about this proposal to increase
the tax rate for parks.

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What are your concerns?

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Let's talk about it.

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-Well, first of all, thank you
for having us on the show.

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And, yes, I, first, support what
Councilmember Lewis was saying

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about the overall principles

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of having our parks
and community centers

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that are clean, safe, open.

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And I think we can manage
our costs,

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as a city government,
to achieve that goal.

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I am concerned that
the initial proposal

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that was coming forward
would be doubling

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that portion of our property tax

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that goes toward the
Parks District.

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And I think we need
to be careful about that

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because we have lots of people
in Seattle on fixed incomes.

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Landlords can pass
these property taxes on

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to their tenants,
both residential renters

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and small businesses
who are on triple net leases.

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And so we want to make sure
that the Parks Department

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is managing the costs well,

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so that we don't have to have
such a sharp increase.

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And I think we also have
to be mindful

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of other property tax measures
that are coming our way soon,

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such as on affordable housing
and transportation.

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But I'm hopeful
that getting public feedback,

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hearing from all
the councilmembers

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under the leadership
of Councilmember Lewis here,

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perhaps we can come up
with a proposal

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that boosts investment,
but also is reasonable in cost.

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-Got it.
And, Councilmember Lewis,

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I know you've heard
this back-and-forth

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from Councilmember Pedersen
before.

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Is there anything you wanted
to respond to there, briefly?

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-Well, I think what's really
important, Brian, is looking

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at what the metrics are
that we get from the department

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because I totally
appreciate the lens

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that Councilmember Pedersen
is bringing to this discussion.

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For example, this morning,

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we were having a discussion
about bathrooms.

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The Parks Department
has come to us

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and proposed a line item
in the Cycle 2 investments

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for 12,000 additional hours
of cleaning.

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I don't really have
a great amount of insight

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into what, exactly,
that gets us,

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if it's not hitched up
or attached

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to some kind of business plan,
you know.

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Does this investment
make our bathrooms and parks

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clean, safe, and open?

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Is that more than 12,000 hours

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that's required to do that,
you know?

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How does that investment
interface

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with the other plug-ins
and funding

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that we give the department?

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So, I really want us to have
a very metrics-driven

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conversation
with the Parks Department

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that precedes any kind
of investment.

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And that is the discussion
that we're really trying

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to work through,
as a park district.

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Board members have been
very, very patient,

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having several meetings

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as a board
of park commissioners.

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But look, I think that the level
of value we put on parks

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and the level of work
we need to do with parks

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is certainly worth the amount
of time we're putting into it,

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but I think it comes down
to not just

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what investments are we making,

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but how do our investments drive
culture within the organization

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to get the delivery that
the people of Seattle expect?

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-Sounds good. I want to move on
here, if I could.

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And, Councilmember Pedersen,
I'm going to go to you next

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to talk about your work as chair

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of the Transportation Committee
for the council

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and the council's
recent recommendations

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for Sound Transit
light-rail expansion.

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Specifically, I want to know why

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you did <i>not</i> make
a recommendation

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for the location
of the Chinatown ID station

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or the Delridge neighborhood
station, in West Seattle.

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Really want to know
what's going to happen
in those neighborhoods.

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Will this delay
the West Seattle,

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the Ballard Link Extension
project?

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What can you tell us?

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-Thank you for that question.

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You know, Seattle's arguably

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the biggest supporter
of Sound Transit

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and we're the crucial linchpin
for the entire regional system.

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So, doing right by Seattle
will speed implementation.

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With all the construction
permitting that needs to occur,

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it's going to help the entire
regional transportation system

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come online faster.

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And, rather than sitting back
and letting a dozen policymakers

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from outside of Seattle decide
what's best for Seattle,

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we put forward a resolution
talking

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about the West Seattle/
Ballard Link Extensions

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and what our preferences were,
as a city.

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And, on a couple of items,

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we thought that Sound Transit
needed to do more work,

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needed to go back
out to the community

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and Chinatown
International District

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is one of those communities that
has been historically subjected

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to many disruptive
construction projects,

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so, we want to make sure
Sound Transit

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gets additional buy-in
from the community

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and prevents displacement
of businesses and residents.

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And I was really encouraged

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that Sound Transit's
Expansion Committee seemed

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to take our City Council
resolution to heart.

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We worked on that
with Mayor Harrell as well

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and we hope that,
on the 28th of July,

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they incorporate most of it.

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-Yeah, we'll see
what happens there.

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I know there's been
some back-and-forth

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about potentially delaying
that meeting,

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so we'll see what happens
with Sound Transit there.

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But, Councilmember Lewis,
maybe your thoughts here

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on what the council's
recommendations are
for light-rail?

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I know you heard a lot
of feedback from KEXP,

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other organizations
at Seattle Center about this.

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Did the council get it right?

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-Yeah, I really want to

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lift up the leadership
of Councilmember Petersen

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for running a very
inclusive process.

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A lot of the stations
and alignment

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for Sound Transit 3 run
through District 7,

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forcing a lot
of very difficult decisions

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in a lot of those segments --

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Interbay, Uptown, downtown.
-Mm-hmm.

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-As you just mentioned, Brian,
in particular,

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in the uptown neighborhood,

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we have to be very,
very careful

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about the alignment that we
choose for Sound Transit 3

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because it brings
great opportunities

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for the Seattle Center campus.

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It also brings the potential
for massive disruption

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for our arts community,
which, as you're well aware,

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a lot of our arts institutions
were the first things to close

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and the last things to reopen
and I really hate for them

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to come out of the frying pan
and go into the fire,

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having to deal
with the mitigation

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through Sound Transit 3.

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A lot of those impacts
are avoidable,

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if we can move the alignment
from what has been

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initially proposed on Republican
to the alignment on Mercer.

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Really appreciate

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Councilmember Pedersen's
leadership

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in supporting us going
on the record for that.

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Really appreciate
Marshall Foster

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and the leadership team at SDOT,

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who have been
stalwart advocates

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for that change of alignment.

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That's going to go a long way

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and I'm hoping
the Sound Transit Board

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will follow the leadership
of the city

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and the leadership
of our arts community

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in making that simple shift
of a block,

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which makes a very significant
difference to that impact

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to our arts community cluster
in Uptown neighborhood.

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-Yeah, yeah, thank you for that.

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Councilmember Lewis, I'm going
to head back to you here

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and ask a question
about public safety.

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You're the vice chair of that
committee on the City Council.

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There's a lot of focus
on police right now.

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Seattle starts up a series
of public meetings here

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in late July to get some input
on the search

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for a permanent chief
of the SPD.

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I wanted to look, though,
at the mayor's recent

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$2 million proposal
to recruit and retain

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Seattle police officers
with some hiring bonuses.

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Two questions here.
Do you support the mayor's plan?

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And, because I know you've been
working on this issue so much,

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are you concerned this plan
doesn't speak

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to building an alternative
response system

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for calls that don't require
an armed officer to respond?

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-Look, no one proposal has
to accomplish all

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of our policy objectives, Brian,

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and I do support the package
that the mayor has put forward.

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I think it's really critical
to look

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at our comprehensive offering
of hiring incentives.

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And this particular package,
I think, is necessary,

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but it isn't sufficient.

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We need to be providing
the basic baseline of incentives

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that a lot of our peer
departments are providing,

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just to be competitive
for lateral applicants

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and other people who are trying
to navigate

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what department to go to,

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who are on a national market
for this kind of work.

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I think Mayor Harrell's proposal
gets us there,

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but then it's what do we do
on top of this?

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How are we working on retention?

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How are we working
on making sure

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that we aren't
losing more officers,

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as we're recruiting
new people in?

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But I do think,
as far as recruitment goes,

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this is a good package
of investments

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to get us up to parity

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with departments
we're competing with

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because we are
in national competition,

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like every police department
in the city is --

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or, sorry, in the country

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is experiencing
these same pressures.

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I think this gets us to parity
to be competitive

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with those other departments,

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but we have
a lot more work to do.

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On the issue
of alternative responses,

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I think it's a separate issue
that we're working on.

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Councilmember Herbold
and I moved some money

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that was going to get absorbed

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sort of back
into the general fund

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to park it in finance
general temporarily.

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That's sort of a wonky answer,

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but we have carved out
about $1.2 million

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that we're working
with the executive

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to put an alternative response
pilot together.

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I see those
as disconnected issues.

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The executive has been a good
partner on both of these things

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and I think we're making
progress on both of them,

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but it's not a one or the other
contention.

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We need to be doing everything
to meet our obligation

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under the charter
for public safety.

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-That's fair. That's fair.
I just wanted to make sure

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I checked in
with both of you on this.

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And, Councilmember Pedersen,

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I know you serve on the
Public Safety Committee, too.

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Your thoughts about the mayor's
hiring proposal?

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-Yes, I support the mayor's
plan, and more.

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Everybody deserves to feel safe

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and I appreciate we need
a holistic approach

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that includes not only
the sufficient staffing

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of frontline
public safety workers,

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but also the alternative
emergency responses

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for mental health crises

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that Councilmembers Lewis
and Herbold

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and others are working on.

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We also need a police contract,
a labor contract,

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that expands and deepens the
reforms that have been in place.

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On September 10th of last year,
ten months ago,

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I actually introduced
two budget amendments

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to fund between $1 million
and $3 million

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for SPD recruitment
and retention,

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but I couldn't get
enough support at that time.

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Since then,
there's been more data showing

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unacceptable increases
in 911 response times

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and unacceptable increases
in crime.

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So, I'm hopeful the mayor's
recruitment incentives

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will pass next month

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and I'd also like to see more
emphasis on retaining

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the highly trained professionals
already here in Seattle

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because it takes so long

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to train and deploy
new recruits.

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-Yeah.
Yeah, big question.

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Maybe I can ask the question
just so many people

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in the public
are looking at this week.

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What are you looking for
in a permanent police chief?

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Councilmember Lewis,
can I ask you that, briefly?

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-Well, Brian, I want
a really strong partner

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who is going to engage
in this work of rightsizing

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what the role of police is

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and focusing really,
really hard

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on building and expanding
those core competencies.

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We need police to be responding

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to the spate of commercial
and residential burglaries

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that we're seeing
in the city of Seattle.

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We need police to be
a critical part

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of business district-level
presence, patrol, and outreach.

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We don't need police to direct
traffic at sporting events.

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We don't need police to be

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mental health
and disorder responders.

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We have other people
who can do that work

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and should do that work.

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And just a chief who could
really use their platform

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and their leadership
to put in the proper context

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how a comprehensive public
safety system comes together

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and that, while the police
are the nucleus

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of a system like that, they
aren't the only actors in it.

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And changing some of the lines
of business

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of what police
have traditionally done

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to really focus and lean
into the things

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only the police can do,
that we need the police to do,

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and that we respect
the police to do.

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-Got it. Coun--
-And that's the kind

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-Sorry.
-of leadership I want to see.

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-Great. Councilmember Pedersen,
some thoughts

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about what <i>you
might be looking for</i>

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in a permanent police chief?

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-Well, you know,
I know the mayor

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is working really hard on this.

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This is one of the key things
that he'll be doing,

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is choosing the next
permanent police chief

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and will be consulting
experts on this.

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Obviously, we want somebody
who is experienced,

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somebody who knows how to keep
a growing urban population safe

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in all neighborhoods

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and has integrity
to be transparent

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and hold all the officers
accountable,

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inspire them to stay
in the department,

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to do good work,

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and has an open mind
to the holistic approach

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that we want to take
for community safety.

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-Great. Thanks
for breaking that down.

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And, Councilmember Pedersen,
let me go back to you here

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for a question
about Vision Zero,

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the city's plan to have
zero traffic deaths

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or serious injuries
by the year 2030.

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You recently took a tour
of District 2,

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in Southeast Seattle,

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with Councilmember
Tammy Morales.

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We have a few photos
of your trip down there.

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D2, unfortunately,
is where more than half

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of Seattle's traffic fatalities
happened last year

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and, overall, the trend
we're seeing across the city is

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we're not getting closer
to that Vision Zero goal.

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We're actually seeing a rise
in these fatal crashes.

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What did you learn
on that tour?

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What are you doing
about this situation?

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-Thank you.
Yeah, safety has got to be

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the priority for everybody using
Seattle's roads

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and, unfortunately,
like you said,

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the first part of 2022 continues
the disturbing national trend

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of unacceptably high numbers
of traffic-related

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injuries and deaths,
especially among pedestrians

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and people experiencing
homelessness in South Seattle.

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So, I joined
Councilmember Morales

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in her South Seattle district.

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We brought SDOT
and the Mayor's Office

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so we could see, firsthand,
three locations

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that were high-risk
for traffic collisions,

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especially for vulnerable
pedestrians.

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And, already, SDOT has proposed
some changes

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in one of those locations.

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You know, we've lowered
speed limits,

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we've increased sidewalks.

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We have a drop in enforcement,
you know,

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we don't have enough officers

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to do traditional
traffic enforcement,

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but I'd like to see the
increased use of speed cameras;

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and fines, based on each
individual's ability to pay;

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so we can reduce
these traffic-related harms.

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We also need to bring
more people inside.

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I mean, the number,

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the percentage of people
experiencing homelessness

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who have been the victims
of these collisions

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has increased, so it's just
another call to action.

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We need to see this
in the budget

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that the mayor submits
to us in the fall,

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an increase in investments
in South Seattle, in particular.

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-Got it. Councilmember Lewis,
plenty of feedback on this one

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and I'm sure I'm sure you've
seen it on social media.

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One writer said this...

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I wanted to throw that out there
and also ask this --

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How frustrating is this for you?

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Because you pushed
to increase funding

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for Vision Zero
in last year's budget

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and yet, here we are,

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seeing these traffic
fatalities increase.

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Some thoughts about this --
what needs to change?

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-Yeah, Brian,
we don't spend nearly enough

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to realize Vision Zero.

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I mean, that's just flatly

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something that we can
confidently say.

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I appreciate the framing
of that caller

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who who sent their comments in
because it really does come

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down to the design
of some of these places,

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like so much
transportation planning.

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If you have grade-separated
and protected bike lanes

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and pedestrian spaces
that are completely

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outside the lane of travel
of traffic

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and difficult for traffic

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to accidentally go
up on the curb of,

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you're going
to dramatically reduce

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the amount of injury
and fatality

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that members of the community
are experiencing.

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I am very proud that I worked
with my colleagues

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on increasing
Vision Zero funding,

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creating the first ever
dedicated source of funding,

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and Councilmember Pedersen
was a big champion of that

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and I appreciate his support
for these initiatives.

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That money just started
being accumulated.

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There is a six-month delay

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in that commercial parking tax
funding coming in

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and that commercial
parking tax increase

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became official as of July.

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So, that money,
you know, is critical,

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but we're probably not going
to start seeing it manifested,

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in terms
of physical improvements,

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for a little while

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because it has to be
accumulated by SDOT.

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They need to then go out
and effectuate some plans

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to build infrastructure
in the community

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that is conducive
to making things safer.

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But look,
it's important to note,

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as Councilmember Pedersen
points out, on a regular basis,

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you know, SDOT has a several
hundred million-dollar budget.

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You know, we shouldn't
just be looking

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at this commercial
parking tax money.

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We've got to be
comprehensively looking

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at how we can expect more
from SDOT

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and demand that SDOT prioritize
traffic calming improvements,

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you know, and other
critical infrastructure,

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to make sure everyone
can walk and roll

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through the city
with confidence.

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-Got it.
And, Councilmember Pedersen,

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sticking with the
transportation topic,

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we actually got an email in
about driverless cars.

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Here's the question that our
viewer wanted to know. Says...

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I know there's
a very specific question

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about driverless cars,
these automated cars,

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but some thoughts on this,
Councilmember Pedersen?

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-Yeah, so, as autonomous
vehicle technology develops,

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cities around the country
are trying to figure out

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how best to regulate that,
the experimentation

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-Yeah.
-of those autonomous vehicles

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on their streets.

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I mean, these are
public streets

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and yet,
we have for-profit companies

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basically experimenting
on our streets.

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So, there needs to be some form
of reasonable regulation,

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just so that there's
transparency, accountability,

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and advance notice
of what's happening.

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And, you know, that's something
that we can handle

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through our street
permit process.

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We do want to encourage
this technology to develop,

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but we also want
to keep people safe

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while these companies
are experimenting

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on our public streets.

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-That's fair. Thank you
for taking that one on.

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Councilmember Lewis,
another question to you

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that came in from a viewer,
sort of where transportation

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and your work
on homelessness intersect.

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Christine asks this...

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I know the city's been
discussing an idea

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about building at least
one safe lot for these RVs.

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Anything you can tell us there?

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-Well, we have a safe lot pilot
that the council funded,

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actually, I think two years ago.

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-Mm-hmm.
-It did finally get effectuated

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by the King County
Regional Homelessness Authority

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and I'm very grateful
for their partnership.

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A contractee was awarded

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in response
to a competitive bid.

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I believe it's the
Low Income Housing Institute.

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-Right.
-They're going to create

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a 50-unit safe lot
to pilot a new system

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for providing
that kind of service.

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As your viewers may be aware,
Brian,

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and remember,
we have experimented before

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with RV safe lots, during the
-Yes.

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-Murray administration,
before Councilmember Pedersen

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and I were here
on the City Council.

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-Mm-hmm.
-That project,

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on the whole, was not effective.

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We've learned a lot
over the course of time

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between that and now.

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The King County
Regional Homelessness Authority

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has developed metrics
and a plan

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to assess how effective this
provider pilot is going to be

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and the hope is there could be

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some scalability built
into that,

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once we have a better sense
of how to provide the service.

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People who camp and live
in RVs tend to be

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a tougher population of people
experiencing homelessness

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for us to provide services to.
-Yeah.

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-They tend to have
a historic skepticism

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of the traditional housing
and shelter system,

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hence why they are living
in an RV.

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-Right.
-In a lot of cases,

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they'll tend to own that asset
and it's obviously

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a very expensive
and critical asset to them,

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so they're reluctant
to want to leave it

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to accept an alternative
offer of service.

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So, really trying
to develop a program

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that meets that population
of people where they are,

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that works with them
to go to a designated place

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and to accept case management
and work on their own terms,

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that is something we're trying
with this pilot

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and my hope is it'll be scalable
and we can provide that relief.

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I know Councilmember Pedersen

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has large portions
of his district

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with a lot of folks living
in RVs

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in the Interbay neighborhood.

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I certainly do as well.

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So, this is work
I'm very interested in,

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that we're following.

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And, again, that, you know,

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over two years ago,
the council funded this

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because we share a sense
of urgency on it.

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It's great to see it
finally acted on by the KCRHA

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and I'm very grateful
for their partnership.

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-Got it. Thanks for that.
Councilmember Pedersen,

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did you want to touch
on this issue?

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I know it's something
that does affect

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all districts out there.

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-Well, I really think
that we want to be supportive

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of the King County
Regional Homelessness Authority.

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You know,
this is a regional problem

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that requires
a regional solution

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-Mm-hmm.
-and I appreciate that they

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are doing it as a pilot project
because,

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as Councilmember Lewis
pointed out,

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it hasn't worked in the past,
so it's very importants

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where they decide
to put the safe lots.

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And I think that we really need

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the King County
Regional Homelessness Authority

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to be very proactive.

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in talking to those
individuals living in RVs,

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find out what their needs are,

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because they really, you know,

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we do have legitimate offers
of housing and services,

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so we want to make sure
they take those

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and aren't just in an RV
that's not working,

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sitting on the side
of the street for weeks.

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-Fair, fair. Thank you.
Councilmember Pedersen,

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I want to make sure I go back
to you for a discussion

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about the measure you recently
passed through the council,

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only to face a veto
from the mayor.

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So, this was that measure that
would've required landlords

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to give information about their
rental rates to the city.

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The city would've then used
that information,

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have a local research
institution analyze it

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and get some details that the
city could, potentially, use

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in the debate
on affordable housing.

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We haven't had this information
for several years, now.

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The local business that used
to generate a report on this

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isn't in operation anymore.

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So what happens right now?

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What impact is that veto
going to have?

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-Sure. Well, big-picture,
we need to do more

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to prevent
the economic displacement

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of existing residents
from Seattle

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and the most direct form
of displacement we've seen is

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when a real estate developer

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may buy an older
apartment building

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and they'll actually
tear it down

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to make way
for a larger building.

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And where do those tenants go?

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And, in contrast,
the economic spin we see

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from some construction
lobbyists,

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and even some urban planners --

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building new housing doesn't,
by itself, prevent displacement.

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We need to preserve
the naturally occurring,

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affordable housing that we have
and we need the data

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to know where that is
throughout the city.

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And you're right,
we haven't had it for years.

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I really appreciate a majority
of the City Council

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approving our reasonable plan
to collect that data

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on all affordable housing
in the city

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and appreciate
Councilmember Lewis' support

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on that, so that we know
where the unsubsidized,

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affordable housing is,
so we can do a better job,

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when we work
on our comprehensive plan.

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We do that only eight years

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and so it's not clear to me
how city departments

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are going to be able
to comply with state law

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and our own state
government policies

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to prevent displacement,
if we don't have the data.

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-Yeah. Yeah.
Councilmember Lewis,

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I know you were supportive
of this.

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Your thoughts about what
might happen next?

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Got about a minute
and change here,

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so, please,
if you wouldn't mind.

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-Look, I just appreciate

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Councilmember Pedersen
leading on this issue

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and I do think it's unfortunate,
the way this turned out.

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I think that,
especially given that we have

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a history of collecting
this information

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and that we do have
a lot of big decision points

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coming up in the future where
that information will be useful,

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I do look forward to working
on some alternative ways

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to get approximately
the same information,

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but I think
Councilmember Pedersen

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brought forward
a viable proposal to do that

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and, you know,
was proud to stand with him

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through the veto override
and everything else.

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And, you know, just back
to the drawing board

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to find out how we can
get that information,

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but, you know,
them's the breaks.

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-Yeah. Yeah. Some interesting
news there, certainly,

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and we'll see what happens
with the rest of this issue

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as it continues here
for the Seattle City Council.

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That's all the time
we have for now.

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I'm Brian Callanan.
Thanks for joining us here.

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We'll see you next time
on "Council Edition."

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