WEBVTT 00:00:02.667 --> 00:00:04.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% [ People cheering ] 00:00:04.367 --> 00:00:06.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -After months of campaigning 00:00:06.234 --> 00:00:09.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and tens of millions of dollars spent on attack ads... 00:00:09.634 --> 00:00:11.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Who's to blame? Patty Murray. 00:00:11.801 --> 00:00:14.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -...the midterm elections are finally over. 00:00:14.067 --> 00:00:17.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Tiffany Smiley -- the wrong choice for Washington. 00:00:17.133 --> 00:00:19.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -From the balance of power in Congress to a battle 00:00:19.767 --> 00:00:22.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to lead the Washington Secretary of State's office, 00:00:22.601 --> 00:00:24.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% much was at stake on November 8th. 00:00:24.501 --> 00:00:27.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Democracy is too important to disenfranchise people. 00:00:27.734 --> 00:00:30.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I'm definitely an underdog. 00:00:30.968 --> 00:00:34.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Seattle voters also picked the next King County prosecutor 00:00:34.567 --> 00:00:38.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and voiced on whether to change future city elections. 00:00:38.667 --> 00:00:42.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What political strategies worked and what didn't in 2022? 00:00:42.634 --> 00:00:43.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Republican Party really paid a price 00:00:43.968 --> 00:00:45.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for their sort of wacky candidates. 00:00:45.868 --> 00:00:47.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Our veteran journalists weigh in. 00:00:47.834 --> 00:00:50.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Democrats have overreached when it comes to reform -- 00:00:50.634 --> 00:00:52.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% criminal legal system reforms. 00:00:52.267 --> 00:00:55.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Recapping the results of the midterm elections -- 00:00:55.167 --> 00:00:57.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% next on "City Inside Out." 00:00:57.267 --> 00:01:03.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:01:03.601 --> 00:01:09.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:01:09.901 --> 00:01:16.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:01:16.167 --> 00:01:18.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Welcome to this edition of "City Inside Out." 00:01:18.767 --> 00:01:21.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm your host, Brian Callanan. 00:01:21.033 --> 00:01:24.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Amidst a flood of national news about the midterm elections, 00:01:24.367 --> 00:01:27.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% voters in our state have some high-stakes local races 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% they're watching closely, too. 00:01:29.300 --> 00:01:31.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% From a fight over political identity 00:01:31.234 --> 00:01:33.200 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% in the Secretary of State's race 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to several political newcomers running for state legislature, 00:01:36.601 --> 00:01:39.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we'll have a full slate of new leaders in Olympia. 00:01:39.501 --> 00:01:41.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Plus, there's a new King County prosecutor 00:01:41.934 --> 00:01:44.167 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% for the first time in 15 years, 00:01:44.167 --> 00:01:46.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% a county-wide land-conservation tax levy, 00:01:46.868 --> 00:01:49.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and a Seattle measure that may change the future 00:01:49.501 --> 00:01:51.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% of our citywide elections. 00:01:51.367 --> 00:01:54.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% This week, we're reviewing the early election results 00:01:54.033 --> 00:01:57.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% on the races that affect you the most. 00:01:57.501 --> 00:02:00.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Tiffany Smiley -- the wrong choice for Washington. 00:02:00.601 --> 00:02:02.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Who's to blame? Patty Murray. 00:02:02.968 --> 00:02:05.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -In a bruising race for U.S. Senate, 00:02:05.434 --> 00:02:08.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the most expensive in Washington state history, 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% incumbent Democrat Patty Murray and her opponent, 00:02:11.167 --> 00:02:15.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Tiffany Smiley, both painted each other as party extremists. 00:02:15.067 --> 00:02:18.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The race was called for Murray after election night returns. 00:02:18.367 --> 00:02:20.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But Smiley said it was too early to concede. 00:02:20.934 --> 00:02:22.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Good evening, everyone. 00:02:22.501 --> 00:02:24.567 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -It was a similar partisan fight 00:02:24.567 --> 00:02:26.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in our state's eighth congressional district. 00:02:26.667 --> 00:02:29.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -We don't need another two years of the same direction. 00:02:29.868 --> 00:02:32.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -He aligns with some of the most extreme members of Congress. 00:02:32.834 --> 00:02:35.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Incumbent Democrat Kim Schrier is leading Republican 00:02:35.868 --> 00:02:40.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% challenger Matt Larkin, 53% to 47% in early returns. 00:02:40.334 --> 00:02:42.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -I've worked in a bipartisan manner. 00:02:42.067 --> 00:02:43.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% I've worked across the aisle. 00:02:43.267 --> 00:02:45.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Politics is a polarizing distraction 00:02:45.801 --> 00:02:47.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% for the Secretary of State. 00:02:47.234 --> 00:02:49.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -In the Washington Secretary of State race, 00:02:49.801 --> 00:02:51.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Democrat Steve Hobbs, 00:02:51.167 --> 00:02:54.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% appointed last year, leads his nonpartisan opponent, 00:02:54.434 --> 00:02:57.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Julie Anderson, in his quest for two more years on the job. 00:02:57.934 --> 00:03:00.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But it's a tight 50% to 47% margin 00:03:00.968 --> 00:03:02.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% after election night. 00:03:02.634 --> 00:03:04.100 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% In the state legislature, 00:03:04.100 --> 00:03:07.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it's a changing of the guard for many Seattle-area seats 00:03:07.534 --> 00:03:09.133 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% with first-time candidates, 00:03:09.133 --> 00:03:12.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% all Democrats, facing off against each other in the House. 00:03:12.834 --> 00:03:14.100 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% In the 34th, 00:03:14.100 --> 00:03:18.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Emily Alvarado is leading Leah Griffin, 69% to 30%. 00:03:18.334 --> 00:03:19.734 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% In the 37th, 00:03:19.734 --> 00:03:24.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Chipalo Street is beating Emijah Smith, 54% to 44%. 00:03:24.234 --> 00:03:29.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And in the 46th, Darya Farivar is winning 56% to 43% 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.567 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% over Dr. Lelach Rave. 00:03:31.567 --> 00:03:35.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Democrats control the state Senate, 28 seats to 21, 00:03:35.501 --> 00:03:38.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and the state House, 57 to 41. 00:03:38.501 --> 00:03:41.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And early results show they'll add seats to those majorities, 00:03:41.968 --> 00:03:45.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% as they've been able to do since 2016. 00:03:45.834 --> 00:03:47.734 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% For King County prosecutor, 00:03:47.734 --> 00:03:49.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% voters are selecting Lisa Mannion, 00:03:49.868 --> 00:03:51.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% the incumbent's current Chief of Staff, 00:03:51.834 --> 00:03:54.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% over Federal Way Mayor Jim Ferrell -- 00:03:54.167 --> 00:03:57.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% 55% to 44%, according to election-night numbers. 00:03:57.868 --> 00:03:59.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -It's important that every vote get counted. 00:03:59.434 --> 00:04:03.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Mannion says her platform of prosecuting violent crime 00:04:03.434 --> 00:04:06.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and using restorative justice programs 00:04:06.067 --> 00:04:08.100 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% resonated with county voters. 00:04:08.100 --> 00:04:10.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -It is my deep level of experience. 00:04:10.167 --> 00:04:12.000 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% It's the balanced approach. 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:13.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -King County's Proposition 1, 00:04:13.934 --> 00:04:17.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the Conservation Futures Tax, or CFT levy, 00:04:17.200 --> 00:04:21.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is passing by a wide 68% to 32% margin in early returns. 00:04:21.901 --> 00:04:24.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I'm all for open space, but enough is enough. 00:04:24.934 --> 00:04:27.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Despite concerns from some taxpayers, 00:04:27.334 --> 00:04:30.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% the CFT faced no organized opposition, 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:33.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and the average property owner will now pay about 00:04:33.033 --> 00:04:36.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% $30 more per year for land preservation in King County. 00:04:36.634 --> 00:04:39.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It's a matter of sort of pay a little bit now 00:04:39.767 --> 00:04:41.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% or pay a lot more later. 00:04:41.467 --> 00:04:45.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Seattle's Proposition 1 posed a fundamental question -- 00:04:45.234 --> 00:04:47.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is it time to change the way we vote? 00:04:47.167 --> 00:04:50.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The thing about Prop 1A is it delivers 00:04:50.834 --> 00:04:53.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the most representative voting system we can have. 00:04:53.834 --> 00:04:57.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Early results show a "no" vote, 51% to 49%, 00:04:57.701 --> 00:04:59.534 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% to Prop 1's main question, 00:04:59.534 --> 00:05:02.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% asking if our voting system should be changed. 00:05:02.534 --> 00:05:04.334 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% But if the measure does pass, 00:05:04.334 --> 00:05:08.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% voters chose option 1B over 1A on election night, 00:05:08.100 --> 00:05:10.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% meaning future citywide elections 00:05:10.200 --> 00:05:12.033 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% would use a ranked choice system 00:05:12.033 --> 00:05:15.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% rather than an approval voting system as early as 2027. 00:05:15.868 --> 00:05:19.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I'm really excited that we can have better elections 00:05:19.501 --> 00:05:21.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in a really simple and effective way. 00:05:21.467 --> 00:05:23.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -From preserving the status quo in our state's 00:05:23.834 --> 00:05:25.567 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% congressional delegation 00:05:25.567 --> 00:05:28.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to a changing of the guard in Olympia to setting the tone 00:05:28.634 --> 00:05:30.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% for prosecuting crime in King County, 00:05:30.968 --> 00:05:35.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it's time to assess some major themes from the 2022 midterms 00:05:35.300 --> 00:05:39.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% after a hard-fought battle to Election Day. 00:05:39.868 --> 00:05:41.868 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And we're joined by an esteemed group of journalists 00:05:41.868 --> 00:05:43.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to break down some of these issues. 00:05:43.167 --> 00:05:45.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I will start with Naomi Ishisaka. 00:05:45.133 --> 00:05:47.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% She is a columnist for "The Seattle Times," 00:05:47.033 --> 00:05:49.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the Assistant Managing Editor for Diversity, 00:05:49.234 --> 00:05:50.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Inclusion, and Staff Development. 00:05:50.868 --> 00:05:52.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Naomi, great to have you here. 00:05:52.234 --> 00:05:53.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Great to be here. Thank you. 00:05:53.567 --> 00:05:56.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And we also have Will Casey -- he's the law and justice 00:05:56.067 --> 00:05:57.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% reporter for "The Stranger." 00:05:57.367 --> 00:05:58.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Will, good to have you, too. 00:05:58.400 --> 00:05:59.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Thanks for having me. -All righty. 00:05:59.667 --> 00:06:01.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Let's jump right into it, and to start with, 00:06:01.133 --> 00:06:03.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we're looking at some very, very early numbers here. 00:06:03.100 --> 00:06:04.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So just want to make sure that we're clear on that. 00:06:04.934 --> 00:06:07.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But I think it is safe to say that the red wave 00:06:07.334 --> 00:06:08.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% a lot of people were talking about 00:06:08.634 --> 00:06:10.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% didn't really materialize here in the midterms. 00:06:10.667 --> 00:06:12.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Certainly not nationwide and definitely not 00:06:12.534 --> 00:06:13.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in Washington state. 00:06:13.968 --> 00:06:16.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, Naomi, I want to start with this race for U.S. Senate, 00:06:16.968 --> 00:06:19.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% between the incumbent Democrat, Patty Murray, 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:21.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Republican challenger Tiffany Smiley. 00:06:21.234 --> 00:06:23.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Murray won it. Race was called an election night. 00:06:23.267 --> 00:06:25.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Though Smiley was telling her supporters, "It ain't over." 00:06:25.767 --> 00:06:27.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Were you surprised by this result? 00:06:27.968 --> 00:06:29.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -You know, I was a little surprised. 00:06:29.434 --> 00:06:31.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And first, I just want to say the biggest winner 00:06:31.100 --> 00:06:32.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of all of this is, of course, 00:06:32.601 --> 00:06:34.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the viewers who don't have to watch these incessant ads... 00:06:34.868 --> 00:06:36.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Well played. Yes. 00:06:36.100 --> 00:06:38.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -...that have been going for seemingly nonstop 24/7 00:06:38.968 --> 00:06:40.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for the past few months. -Yeah. 00:06:40.334 --> 00:06:42.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -But, yeah, I was surprised, I think, you know, 00:06:42.400 --> 00:06:44.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because I've seen the incessant ads 00:06:44.367 --> 00:06:46.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and because, you know, things did not seem like 00:06:46.567 --> 00:06:49.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% they were gonna be as as close as they were. 00:06:49.200 --> 00:06:53.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I do think that some of the conventional wisdom 00:06:53.300 --> 00:06:56.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% was a little bit overblown, that some of the vulnerabilities 00:06:56.167 --> 00:06:58.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that they thought were gonna be, 00:06:58.100 --> 00:06:59.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% you know, weighing down on on Murray 00:06:59.934 --> 00:07:03.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% didn't really materialize in the way that they expected. 00:07:03.167 --> 00:07:05.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, could be one of the longest-serving 00:07:05.167 --> 00:07:07.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% senators we've ever had coming up here. 00:07:07.501 --> 00:07:08.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Will, some thoughts on this race, 00:07:08.634 --> 00:07:10.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% also the most expensive U.S. Senate race 00:07:10.501 --> 00:07:11.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in our state history here. 00:07:11.834 --> 00:07:14.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Smiley was even out-gaining Murray in fund-raising 00:07:14.400 --> 00:07:16.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% down the stretch here, but it wasn't enough. 00:07:16.701 --> 00:07:18.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Some reactions to this result here. 00:07:18.334 --> 00:07:20.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Well, I think it's just an indication of how tough 00:07:20.534 --> 00:07:23.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it's going to be for Republicans to win statewide at all, 00:07:23.634 --> 00:07:25.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% unless they significantly sort of re-brand 00:07:25.868 --> 00:07:27.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and try to tack back to the middle. 00:07:27.667 --> 00:07:30.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And they've just, as J.T. Wilcox will tell you, 00:07:30.667 --> 00:07:32.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, had a hard time enforcing 00:07:32.634 --> 00:07:34.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% sort of party discipline up and down the ballot. 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:35.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% So I think, you know, 00:07:35.634 --> 00:07:38.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so long as they're getting clobbered in King County 00:07:38.234 --> 00:07:40.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% where there's a large portion of the state population -- 00:07:40.133 --> 00:07:42.033 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -A lot of voters here. Yeah. 00:07:42.033 --> 00:07:44.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -And frankly, voters who show up, right? 00:07:44.100 --> 00:07:45.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I think that's gonna be a challenge 00:07:45.334 --> 00:07:46.634 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% for them going forward. 00:07:46.634 --> 00:07:48.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. And it seemed like a similar story playing out 00:07:48.534 --> 00:07:50.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in the eighth Congressional District. 00:07:50.400 --> 00:07:51.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It hasn't been called yet, 00:07:51.667 --> 00:07:54.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but Democrat Kim Schrier up six points on Matt Larkin 00:07:54.200 --> 00:07:56.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% according to the election night numbers. 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:57.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Will, maybe I'll start with you here. 00:07:57.200 --> 00:07:59.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% National elections experts were calling this 00:07:59.234 --> 00:08:00.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% a toss-up kind of a district. 00:08:00.767 --> 00:08:03.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Any surprises on this one, specifically? 00:08:03.100 --> 00:08:05.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I don't think so, mostly because Schrier 00:08:05.200 --> 00:08:06.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% has done a really good job of highlighting her 00:08:06.834 --> 00:08:09.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% independent record of delivering for the district, right? 00:08:09.567 --> 00:08:12.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You've seen a lot of her advertising was focused on, 00:08:12.567 --> 00:08:13.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% you know, specific accomplishments 00:08:13.934 --> 00:08:16.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% she's done to help build infrastructure over the 00:08:16.334 --> 00:08:18.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% east side of the mountains and really sort of touting her, 00:08:18.901 --> 00:08:21.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% you know, sort of bipartisan bona fides. 00:08:21.033 --> 00:08:23.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -She had some bills that Trump supported and Biden supported. 00:08:23.834 --> 00:08:25.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I remember that part, too. -Right. Exactly. 00:08:25.133 --> 00:08:27.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so I think that sort of, you know, 00:08:27.033 --> 00:08:29.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% sort of "willing to buck the party label" thing helps 00:08:29.901 --> 00:08:33.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with those more centrist voters in central Washington. 00:08:33.300 --> 00:08:34.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And then, you know, Eastern King County 00:08:34.734 --> 00:08:36.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% these days, just deep blue. 00:08:36.267 --> 00:08:39.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting district there for sure. 00:08:39.501 --> 00:08:41.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Naomi, some thoughts about this. 00:08:41.434 --> 00:08:43.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I know "The Times" and "The Stranger" 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:45.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% both endorsed Kim Schrier and Patty Murray, 00:08:45.701 --> 00:08:48.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for that matter, and that dual endorsement 00:08:48.133 --> 00:08:49.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% doesn't always happen between the two papers, 00:08:49.767 --> 00:08:51.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but it was a full moon last night, 00:08:51.501 --> 00:08:53.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so I'll just chalk it up to that. 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Why do you think Republicans could not flip this district? 00:08:55.701 --> 00:08:57.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Any thoughts there? 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Well, and I think, you know, I think my colleague 00:08:59.100 --> 00:09:01.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Danny Westneat talked about this a little bit in his column. 00:09:01.934 --> 00:09:05.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You know, I think there was a little bit of a, perhaps, 00:09:05.968 --> 00:09:09.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% lack of respect for the need to have winnable arguments 00:09:09.434 --> 00:09:11.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that reach the middle. -Yes. 00:09:11.400 --> 00:09:13.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think one of the things that Kim Schrier did, 00:09:13.300 --> 00:09:15.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% like Will's saying, is she really expressed 00:09:15.934 --> 00:09:18.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% how she was serving all the people in her district, 00:09:18.868 --> 00:09:22.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% whereas I think Matt Larkin ran on more of a, you know, 00:09:22.334 --> 00:09:25.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% die-hard right approach that didn't really translate 00:09:25.601 --> 00:09:27.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% well, I think, to the moderate voters. 00:09:27.300 --> 00:09:28.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -He had just kind of doubled down on that. 00:09:28.734 --> 00:09:31.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I was thinking, too, about the third 00:09:31.100 --> 00:09:33.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Congressional District, too, down around Vancouver there. 00:09:33.934 --> 00:09:35.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Will, any thoughts on this one? 00:09:35.400 --> 00:09:37.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Joe Kent, I know, is a big-time 00:09:37.367 --> 00:09:39.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Trump-backed candidate, etcetera. 00:09:39.033 --> 00:09:41.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It looks like, for the first time in a while, 00:09:41.167 --> 00:09:42.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Clark County is gonna flip blue. 00:09:42.501 --> 00:09:44.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% That a big deal down there. -That is a big deal. 00:09:44.734 --> 00:09:46.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I mean, you know, cards on the table. 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:47.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I worked for the first challenger, you know, 00:09:47.968 --> 00:09:50.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to Jamie Herrera Buetler back in 2018, Carolyn Long, 00:09:50.801 --> 00:09:52.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and so, you know, it's been a multi-year, you know, 00:09:52.801 --> 00:09:54.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% organizing effort down there, and I think that they're really 00:09:54.834 --> 00:09:57.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% starting to see some of the fruits of the labor 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of running competitive candidates cycle after cycle. 00:09:59.400 --> 00:10:01.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You know, you build on that success. 00:10:01.234 --> 00:10:03.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And Marie didn't need to, you know, start from scratch, 00:10:03.767 --> 00:10:05.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which I think is really important 00:10:05.667 --> 00:10:07.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% when you're trying to flip that kind of a reach district. 00:10:07.567 --> 00:10:09.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -She seemed like a relative unknown down there. 00:10:09.734 --> 00:10:10.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Your thoughts about that? 00:10:10.901 --> 00:10:13.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% A lot of money got poured into that district, too. 00:10:13.133 --> 00:10:16.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, I think she had a profile, 00:10:16.067 --> 00:10:17.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% even though she was a first-time candidate, 00:10:17.434 --> 00:10:20.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that really sort of resonated with the district, right? 00:10:20.133 --> 00:10:22.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Small-business owner, you know, built her own home. 00:10:22.601 --> 00:10:25.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think those kind of, like, apolitical 00:10:25.300 --> 00:10:27.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but, like, relatable 00:10:27.167 --> 00:10:29.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% sort of characteristics really served her well. 00:10:29.534 --> 00:10:31.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And also, she was very compromising about 00:10:31.834 --> 00:10:33.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% reaching across to Jaime Herrera Buetler supporters, 00:10:33.801 --> 00:10:35.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% who might have felt disappointed by the primary. 00:10:35.701 --> 00:10:37.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Right. Right. Important piece there. 00:10:37.234 --> 00:10:38.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm gonna try to put this in perspective, 00:10:38.667 --> 00:10:40.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if I can, on a national level. 00:10:40.033 --> 00:10:41.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And Naomi, I'll start with you here. 00:10:41.667 --> 00:10:44.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Republicans could still take the House by a slim majority there. 00:10:44.400 --> 00:10:46.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Republicans also had some big wins. 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm thinking about Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida, 00:10:48.701 --> 00:10:50.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% even flipped a few traditionally Democrat 00:10:50.734 --> 00:10:52.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% districts there to get that victory. 00:10:52.467 --> 00:10:54.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So without a clear election-night victory, 00:10:54.701 --> 00:10:56.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% let's say, for either party here, 00:10:56.701 --> 00:10:58.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% how do we come out of this election as a country? 00:10:58.534 --> 00:11:01.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Are we less divided than when we entered into it? 00:11:01.267 --> 00:11:02.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Do you have any thoughts about that? 00:11:02.534 --> 00:11:04.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Because it just -- it seems a little undecided. 00:11:04.501 --> 00:11:07.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I saw "undecided" on so many different headlines 00:11:07.067 --> 00:11:08.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% today after Election Day. 00:11:08.634 --> 00:11:10.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. 00:11:10.601 --> 00:11:12.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I was struck by some of the exit polling yesterday 00:11:12.801 --> 00:11:15.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that showed that there was actually a lot of discontent 00:11:15.367 --> 00:11:17.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% around Democratic policies. 00:11:17.133 --> 00:11:19.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% There was discontent with Biden. 00:11:19.033 --> 00:11:22.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And yet people still, you know, supported the Democrats 00:11:22.467 --> 00:11:25.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% in all different kinds of races, and I think what that tells us 00:11:25.234 --> 00:11:28.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% is that they might have their concerns 00:11:28.767 --> 00:11:30.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and they might have their reservations, 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% but at the end of the day, they're worried about 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:33.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% abortion rights, they're worried about -- 00:11:33.467 --> 00:11:34.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -I was gonna say those issues. -Yeah. 00:11:34.701 --> 00:11:36.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They're worried about things 00:11:36.067 --> 00:11:37.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that affect them on the day-to-day, whether or not -- 00:11:37.534 --> 00:11:40.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, less on sort of the very, very shrill attacks 00:11:40.434 --> 00:11:42.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that we've seen mostly on these, you know, ad campaigns. 00:11:42.767 --> 00:11:44.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But they're also -- just want to see 00:11:44.367 --> 00:11:47.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that they have bodily autonomy, have health care, 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:49.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% have the things that matter in their day-to-day life. 00:11:49.033 --> 00:11:51.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And to me, that's the uniting factor 00:11:51.367 --> 00:11:52.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that you're seeing across the board. 00:11:52.934 --> 00:11:55.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Got it. Will, maybe I can go to you on this one. 00:11:55.667 --> 00:11:57.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It was a great line in "The New York Times," 00:11:57.234 --> 00:12:00.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% more of a red ripple than a red wave on election night there. 00:12:00.467 --> 00:12:03.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But looking at that national picture, are we less divided? 00:12:03.367 --> 00:12:05.734 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Are there some themes that you can associate with voters 00:12:05.734 --> 00:12:07.167 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% here after Election Day? 00:12:07.167 --> 00:12:08.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Well, I think you saw the president 00:12:08.534 --> 00:12:09.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% try to make a closing argument, 00:12:09.868 --> 00:12:11.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, the week leading into Election Day 00:12:11.467 --> 00:12:13.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that, you know, just enough of us on 00:12:13.033 --> 00:12:15.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just enough occasions have, you know, come together 00:12:15.601 --> 00:12:17.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to decide that we want to continue to be a democracy. 00:12:17.767 --> 00:12:19.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that's basically what you saw, you know? 00:12:19.667 --> 00:12:22.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% There's still a very loud 00:12:22.334 --> 00:12:24.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% not as small of a minority as we'd like it to be, 00:12:24.367 --> 00:12:28.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% probably, who don't seem to be that concerned with, you know, 00:12:28.234 --> 00:12:32.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% continuity of of democratic institutions in this country. 00:12:32.033 --> 00:12:33.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But enough of the folks did show up. 00:12:33.901 --> 00:12:35.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that that's really what you saw, you know, 00:12:35.667 --> 00:12:37.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% across the various swing districts, 00:12:37.100 --> 00:12:39.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% although gerrymandering means we have far fewer 00:12:39.567 --> 00:12:41.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% competitive House races than we did even two years ago. 00:12:41.834 --> 00:12:43.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Right. Right. And is it a situation -- 00:12:43.634 --> 00:12:46.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Naomi was bringing up issues like reproductive rights. 00:12:46.734 --> 00:12:49.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Was there an issue that you think really brought voters out? 00:12:49.534 --> 00:12:51.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I know a lot of people are concerned about the economy, 00:12:51.734 --> 00:12:53.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% inflation at a 40-year high here. 00:12:53.501 --> 00:12:56.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Anything like that that drew people out in your mind? 00:12:56.334 --> 00:12:58.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I think more than any of those individual issues, 00:12:58.834 --> 00:13:01.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% what you saw was people being truly unsettled 00:13:01.734 --> 00:13:04.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% by how far out of the mainstream, 00:13:04.167 --> 00:13:06.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% like, most of the Republican candidates have gone. 00:13:06.734 --> 00:13:08.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that you saw that in, for example, 00:13:08.834 --> 00:13:10.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Pennsylvania's Senate race, right? 00:13:10.234 --> 00:13:14.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think if Dr. Oz wasn't a, you know, fraudster on TV 00:13:14.634 --> 00:13:16.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and it was instead just sort of a normal, you know, 00:13:16.601 --> 00:13:18.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% maybe a state legislator seeking a promotion 00:13:18.567 --> 00:13:21.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% or something, that might have been a more competitive race. 00:13:21.133 --> 00:13:24.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But I think the Republican Party really paid a price 00:13:24.601 --> 00:13:26.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% for their sort of wacky candidates 00:13:26.367 --> 00:13:27.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that they recruited this cycle. 00:13:27.534 --> 00:13:28.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -We will see what happens in Georgia, though. 00:13:28.868 --> 00:13:29.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Yeah. Keep going. 00:13:29.934 --> 00:13:31.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I think there's also something 00:13:31.267 --> 00:13:32.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that happened in terms of I think 00:13:32.901 --> 00:13:34.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Republicans really tried to press this idea 00:13:34.767 --> 00:13:36.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that Democrats were soft on crime 00:13:36.334 --> 00:13:38.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and that, you know, the cities were kind of on fire 00:13:38.601 --> 00:13:40.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it was an apocalyptic hellscape. 00:13:40.667 --> 00:13:43.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And that didn't seem to gain a lot of traction with voters. 00:13:43.467 --> 00:13:46.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I think that, you know, that barrage of advertising, 00:13:46.701 --> 00:13:48.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it didn't really show up in the polls in the way 00:13:48.601 --> 00:13:50.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that I think they thought it would. 00:13:50.133 --> 00:13:52.000 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% And I think that cost them. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. And I want to talk about this partisan idea here. 00:13:55.133 --> 00:13:56.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Back to some local races here, 00:13:56.868 --> 00:13:59.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% a very interesting partisan versus nonpartisan battle 00:13:59.634 --> 00:14:01.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for the Secretary of State race in our state. 00:14:01.834 --> 00:14:04.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Steve Hobbs appointed to the job last year. He's a democrat. 00:14:04.601 --> 00:14:06.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Julie Anderson, Pierce County Auditor, 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ran as a nonpartisan -- a close one on election night. 00:14:09.234 --> 00:14:11.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Hobbs leading %50 to 47%. 00:14:11.467 --> 00:14:13.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But Will, you wrote about this race a couple of weeks ago, 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:14.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and I thought this was fascinating. 00:14:14.667 --> 00:14:17.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Polls then, at the time, were showing that Republican voters 00:14:17.234 --> 00:14:20.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% might write in State Representative Brad Klippert 00:14:20.100 --> 00:14:22.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% from the eighth district down in Kennewick. 00:14:22.167 --> 00:14:24.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So the GOP didn't win this race necessarily, 00:14:24.367 --> 00:14:27.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but the fact that 3.1% of the voters, 00:14:27.067 --> 00:14:28.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% at least on election night, 00:14:28.501 --> 00:14:30.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% supported a write-in candidate, they might have given this 00:14:30.801 --> 00:14:33.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to the to the Democrats, it looks like. 00:14:33.300 --> 00:14:34.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, and I think that that's interesting 00:14:34.667 --> 00:14:36.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because when I was writing that piece, 00:14:36.067 --> 00:14:37.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we were drawing on the sort of example 00:14:37.734 --> 00:14:39.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of a 2020 lieutenant governor's race, right? 00:14:39.734 --> 00:14:40.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And that's where you had Joshua Freed 00:14:40.968 --> 00:14:42.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% running as a write in candidate, 00:14:42.467 --> 00:14:45.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and he really mounted a full-scale campaign. 00:14:45.334 --> 00:14:48.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think what you didn't see as much this cycle was Klippert 00:14:48.901 --> 00:14:50.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% didn't seem to have as much infrastructure, 00:14:50.667 --> 00:14:53.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and whether or not the state Republican Party 00:14:53.634 --> 00:14:55.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% decided to do a big organizing push for him. 00:14:55.834 --> 00:14:58.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Maybe it was too late of a decision. Who knows? 00:14:58.033 --> 00:14:59.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% But as you said, 00:14:59.234 --> 00:15:01.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% it does seem like he might have pulled the race 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just enough away from Anderson to give Hobbs the victory. 00:15:04.534 --> 00:15:06.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -That's gonna be so interesting to see how that plays out. 00:15:06.501 --> 00:15:07.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I know there's still a ways 00:15:07.501 --> 00:15:09.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to go in terms of counting votes. 00:15:09.267 --> 00:15:10.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Naomi, back to you on this one. 00:15:10.534 --> 00:15:13.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The "Times" editorial board endorsed Steve Hobbs 00:15:13.067 --> 00:15:15.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but has also supported this proposal from Julie Anderson 00:15:15.901 --> 00:15:19.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to remove the party label from electing a Secretary of State, 00:15:19.501 --> 00:15:21.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which I thought was very interesting. 00:15:21.067 --> 00:15:24.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What's your takeaway from this partisan-nonpartisan race 00:15:24.167 --> 00:15:25.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for Secretary of State? 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:27.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% That was a big issue in this. 00:15:27.334 --> 00:15:29.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I don't know too much about that part of it, 00:15:29.901 --> 00:15:32.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but I do think that people are at a, you know, 00:15:32.634 --> 00:15:34.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% obviously a huge amount of sensitivity 00:15:34.734 --> 00:15:36.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% around election security 00:15:36.400 --> 00:15:38.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and partisanship and electioneering, 00:15:38.434 --> 00:15:42.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and I think if there's ways to bring 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% more trust into the process, I think that's a good thing. 00:15:44.534 --> 00:15:45.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Yeah. 00:15:45.834 --> 00:15:48.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% First person of color to be elected 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to this position, too, in Steve Hobbs. 00:15:50.133 --> 00:15:52.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think that might have some resonance, too. 00:15:52.334 --> 00:15:54.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It was certainly something that he campaigned on 00:15:54.300 --> 00:15:56.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in terms of reaching out to people, etcetera. 00:15:56.267 --> 00:15:57.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Did you have any any feel for that, 00:15:57.634 --> 00:16:00.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% how that impacted his campaign? 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:01.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I don't know. Not too much. 00:16:01.701 --> 00:16:04.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I mostly know him from before this race. 00:16:04.801 --> 00:16:07.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And, you know, he's a little bit more conservative -- 00:16:07.167 --> 00:16:09.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% on the conservative side, so I didn't see that playing -- 00:16:09.767 --> 00:16:12.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -A radical moderate, I think he called himself. 00:16:12.100 --> 00:16:13.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I didn't see that playing out 00:16:13.901 --> 00:16:15.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as much with the people I know 00:16:15.834 --> 00:16:17.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in terms of thinking about it in that way. 00:16:17.734 --> 00:16:19.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But maybe it did persuade some people. 00:16:19.734 --> 00:16:21.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Interesting pieces in all these races here. 00:16:21.901 --> 00:16:23.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, Will, I'm gonna go back to you 00:16:23.100 --> 00:16:24.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and talk about our state legislature. 00:16:24.501 --> 00:16:26.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, if the results from election night hold true, 00:16:26.901 --> 00:16:28.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Dems could pick up a seat in the Senate 00:16:28.300 --> 00:16:29.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and three additional House seats. 00:16:29.601 --> 00:16:31.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% They already have a majority in both. 00:16:31.367 --> 00:16:33.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So no red wave -- definitely sticking with that theme. 00:16:33.534 --> 00:16:35.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But I'm wondering what the bigger takeaway 00:16:35.133 --> 00:16:36.200 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% is on the state level. 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:37.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Will we see a push now in Olympia 00:16:37.968 --> 00:16:39.334 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% next session for Democrats 00:16:39.334 --> 00:16:41.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% looking for a state constitutional amendment 00:16:41.634 --> 00:16:43.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% for abortion rights or stronger gun laws, 00:16:43.801 --> 00:16:47.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% or any thoughts about what stronger Democratic majorities 00:16:47.234 --> 00:16:49.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in the state House and Senate could mean? 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Well, I think they fell just a couple of seats short 00:16:51.434 --> 00:16:53.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of being able to reach the majorities 00:16:53.834 --> 00:16:55.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% they would need to amend the Constitution 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:57.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for abortion rights, because, you know, at this point, 00:16:57.267 --> 00:16:58.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% our reporting shows, like, not a single Republican 00:16:58.968 --> 00:17:02.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is willing to go across party lines and support that. 00:17:02.033 --> 00:17:06.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% However, I think you are gonna see sort of an argument 00:17:06.133 --> 00:17:08.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that centrists within the party in Olympia 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:10.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% have been using for the last couple of sessions 00:17:10.734 --> 00:17:12.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% really kind of lose a lot of traction, 00:17:12.334 --> 00:17:14.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which is basically they need to be careful 00:17:14.601 --> 00:17:17.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about how aggressive they push on things 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% like affordable housing or progressive taxation, 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:21.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because, you know, 00:17:21.367 --> 00:17:23.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the suburban voters might have a backlash if they go too far. 00:17:23.968 --> 00:17:25.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But I think what we've seen, you know, 00:17:25.467 --> 00:17:27.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% three cycles in a row now is that the Republican Party 00:17:27.767 --> 00:17:30.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% just isn't competitive in a significant way. 00:17:30.934 --> 00:17:34.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And really, the only check on whether or not voters 00:17:34.367 --> 00:17:36.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% are gonna be happy with the Democrats 00:17:36.033 --> 00:17:37.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% are gonna come from within the party itself. 00:17:37.701 --> 00:17:40.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, they've been building on those majorities since 2016, 00:17:40.033 --> 00:17:41.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it's important to point that out. 00:17:41.501 --> 00:17:43.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Naomi, I wanted to make sure I looked here in the Seattle area, 00:17:43.701 --> 00:17:45.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% specifically -- a lot of new faces, 00:17:45.601 --> 00:17:48.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% political newcomers, actually, to the 34th, 00:17:48.267 --> 00:17:50.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% 37th, and 46th districts. 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Any expectations there, 00:17:51.334 --> 00:17:53.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% from what we would see from that Seattle delegation 00:17:53.501 --> 00:17:55.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% when it comes to what's next in Olympia? 00:17:55.767 --> 00:17:57.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see 00:17:57.434 --> 00:17:59.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% what's next on that front. 00:17:59.067 --> 00:18:03.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think, you know, both in 37th, where I'm from, and the 34th, 00:18:03.167 --> 00:18:05.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if I'm remembering the districts right. 00:18:05.667 --> 00:18:07.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% That's the one with Darya... 00:18:07.934 --> 00:18:09.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -She's 46. -46. Yep. 00:18:09.634 --> 00:18:11.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% That one, I think, is really interesting, too, 00:18:11.868 --> 00:18:14.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because she brings the diversity rights perspective to it. 00:18:14.734 --> 00:18:17.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that's such an important aspect 00:18:17.033 --> 00:18:19.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to bring into the legislature, to have that sort of thinking 00:18:19.834 --> 00:18:21.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about how do our policies 00:18:21.467 --> 00:18:25.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and our politics affect people with disabilities. 00:18:25.767 --> 00:18:27.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I think that's something that we don't talk about enough. 00:18:27.367 --> 00:18:29.667 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And I think if we can have a wider conversation about that, 00:18:29.667 --> 00:18:31.000 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% that's a beautiful thing. 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:32.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% And then in the 37th, I think, you know, 00:18:32.934 --> 00:18:35.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we've always had a very strong progressive 00:18:35.634 --> 00:18:36.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% for, you know, as long as I can remember. 00:18:36.834 --> 00:18:38.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Many years. Yeah. -Yeah. 00:18:38.534 --> 00:18:40.667 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% People of color in leadership. 00:18:40.667 --> 00:18:42.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Pramila Jayapal not too many years ago. 00:18:42.634 --> 00:18:44.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Sharon Tomiko Santos. 00:18:44.868 --> 00:18:47.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think there's a long history of that in the south end, 00:18:47.667 --> 00:18:51.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and I think that a lot of the progressive legislation 00:18:51.033 --> 00:18:54.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that happens really gets pushed from the south end of Seattle. 00:18:54.767 --> 00:18:57.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so I think we're gonna see that continuing. 00:18:57.033 --> 00:18:58.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -That is gonna be interesting, 00:18:58.267 --> 00:19:00.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% especially when it comes to police accountability, 00:19:00.334 --> 00:19:02.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% which I know has taken a bit of a roller-coaster ride 00:19:02.934 --> 00:19:04.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% over the past couple of years in Olympia. 00:19:04.334 --> 00:19:05.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% So I'll be very closely 00:19:05.901 --> 00:19:07.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% looking at what those legislators do. 00:19:07.767 --> 00:19:09.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But I want to jump down to the King County level 00:19:09.434 --> 00:19:12.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and the vote for prosecutor here -- very interesting here. 00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:14.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Dan Satterberg stepping down after 15 years on the job. 00:19:14.801 --> 00:19:18.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% His Chief of Staff, Lisa Mannion, held a 55% to 44% 00:19:18.267 --> 00:19:21.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% lead over Federal Way Mayor Jim Ferrell on election night. 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Naomi, I'll start with you here. "Times" endorsed Farrell, 00:19:23.601 --> 00:19:26.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% but he also had the endorsement of several police unions. 00:19:26.267 --> 00:19:28.133 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% It looks like he's getting pushed back here. 00:19:28.133 --> 00:19:29.267 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% What do you make of this result? 00:19:29.267 --> 00:19:31.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I thought it was very surprising. 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:32.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. I mean, I think this 00:19:32.100 --> 00:19:33.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% goes back to what I was saying earlier. 00:19:33.467 --> 00:19:36.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think that this idea that Democrats have overreached 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:39.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% when it comes to reform -- criminal legal system reforms. 00:19:39.434 --> 00:19:42.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think we're seeing sort of a, you know, 00:19:42.033 --> 00:19:44.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% kind of a backlash to that narrative, right? 00:19:44.767 --> 00:19:46.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think we're seeing that people 00:19:46.100 --> 00:19:50.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% aren't as unwilling to try new approaches. 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:52.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think we're seeing in this Mannion race 00:19:52.033 --> 00:19:54.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that some of the things that she's advocating for, 00:19:54.467 --> 00:19:58.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% such as, you know, looking at how do we make public safety -- 00:19:58.901 --> 00:20:00.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% think about public safety more broadly 00:20:00.467 --> 00:20:02.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% rather than, you know, jails and cops. 00:20:02.601 --> 00:20:04.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But how do we create all the conditions 00:20:04.467 --> 00:20:06.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% so that we don't have crime in the first place? 00:20:06.434 --> 00:20:08.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I think we're seeing a lot more receptivity to that approach 00:20:08.767 --> 00:20:11.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% than we might have thought before this election. 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. All right, Mr. Law and Justice Reporter, 00:20:13.300 --> 00:20:14.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% let's talk to you about this. 00:20:14.501 --> 00:20:15.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It really did seem like Jim Ferrell 00:20:15.868 --> 00:20:18.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% was trying to out-law and -justice Lisa Mannion here, 00:20:18.501 --> 00:20:20.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% saying he'd be tougher on crime, etcetera. 00:20:20.300 --> 00:20:22.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I'm really thinking about how Seattle voters 00:20:22.033 --> 00:20:24.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% have said yes to that message 00:20:24.300 --> 00:20:25.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% a little bit over the last couple of years here. 00:20:25.934 --> 00:20:28.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Haven't supported candidates seen as more progressive. 00:20:28.234 --> 00:20:30.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm kind of thinking of this broadly here. 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:31.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% With all that in mind, 00:20:31.300 --> 00:20:33.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% were you surprised at this election result? 00:20:33.434 --> 00:20:36.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -No, simply because we're in an even-year electorate, right? 00:20:36.133 --> 00:20:38.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think that, like, what you see, I mean, 00:20:38.033 --> 00:20:39.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just looking at the traffic on our endorsements page, 00:20:39.667 --> 00:20:41.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for example, compared to last year, 00:20:41.934 --> 00:20:43.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it's not just -- 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:46.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I mean, it was several orders of magnitude larger 00:20:46.033 --> 00:20:47.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% than we saw in the 2021 race. 00:20:47.534 --> 00:20:50.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that's just because you have more younger people, 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:52.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you have people who move more frequently 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that don't necessarily tune into politics 00:20:54.501 --> 00:20:56.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as a sort of hobby of theirs. 00:20:56.100 --> 00:20:58.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But when you have the national sort of media being like, 00:20:58.334 --> 00:21:00.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "Hey, everyone pay attention, it's time to vote," 00:21:00.701 --> 00:21:02.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then they realize that it's time to tune in. 00:21:02.834 --> 00:21:04.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so I think it's really a difference 00:21:04.767 --> 00:21:07.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of just what kind of participation you're getting. 00:21:07.067 --> 00:21:09.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And then, also, I think that this race, frankly, 00:21:09.234 --> 00:21:11.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% was really encouraging to me 00:21:11.100 --> 00:21:13.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in how the electorate was processing 00:21:13.267 --> 00:21:14.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the two candidates, right? 00:21:14.667 --> 00:21:17.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Because I think Ferrell had a more traditional -- 00:21:17.534 --> 00:21:19.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, he's a middle-aged white guy. 00:21:19.267 --> 00:21:20.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% He's very personable. 00:21:20.667 --> 00:21:23.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% He's been practicing how to, you know, appeal to an audience, 00:21:23.534 --> 00:21:25.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% do well in interviews like this. 00:21:25.934 --> 00:21:27.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Whereas Mannion, as a first-time candidate, 00:21:27.534 --> 00:21:29.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, was a little bit stiffer, 00:21:29.234 --> 00:21:30.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% didn't have as much of a, you know, 00:21:30.734 --> 00:21:34.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% skill in terms of presentation, but is clearly, like, qualified. 00:21:34.167 --> 00:21:35.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You talk to her for any period of time 00:21:35.801 --> 00:21:38.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and you understand that she has a much better grasp 00:21:38.234 --> 00:21:39.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% on the details of policy and frankly, 00:21:39.934 --> 00:21:42.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just the inner workings of the office that she's been in, 00:21:42.133 --> 00:21:44.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which makes sense because she's been doing it for 20-some years. 00:21:44.934 --> 00:21:48.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so I think that voters rewarding that issue areas, 00:21:48.868 --> 00:21:51.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, expertise and experience 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% over sort of the sizzle 00:21:53.100 --> 00:21:55.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of a practiced politician is really encouraging. 00:21:55.934 --> 00:21:58.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Well, let's talk about what voters might not be doing, 00:21:58.267 --> 00:21:59.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and that's change the way they vote. 00:21:59.501 --> 00:22:01.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I'm going to shift to Proposition 1, 00:22:01.167 --> 00:22:02.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and Will, I'll start with you here. 00:22:02.567 --> 00:22:04.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% I thought it was interesting "The Stranger" endorsed 00:22:04.434 --> 00:22:06.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% a "no" vote on the first question of this measure. 00:22:06.801 --> 00:22:08.601 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Should we change our voting system? 00:22:08.601 --> 00:22:10.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And voters election night 00:22:10.033 --> 00:22:13.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% narrowly actually agreed with that, 51% to 49%. 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:15.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They also agreed that between the choices of approval voting 00:22:15.767 --> 00:22:17.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% versus ranked choice voting, 00:22:17.334 --> 00:22:18.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ranked choice would be the better idea. 00:22:18.767 --> 00:22:22.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So if that "no" holds for question one, 00:22:22.133 --> 00:22:24.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but then voters also support option 1B 00:22:24.300 --> 00:22:26.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for ranked choice voting, I'm confused already, 00:22:26.634 --> 00:22:28.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but where does that lead us? 00:22:28.067 --> 00:22:29.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What do you think? -Sure. Sure, sure, sure. 00:22:29.434 --> 00:22:31.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'll explain because this was a debate we had 00:22:31.701 --> 00:22:33.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in our newsroom for weeks, 00:22:33.100 --> 00:22:35.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because it's frankly just a very complicated question. 00:22:35.734 --> 00:22:37.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And it really just boiled down to the fact 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that in most localities that implement ranked choice voting, 00:22:40.501 --> 00:22:42.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the main benefit you get 00:22:42.434 --> 00:22:44.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is that you combine the primary and the general election. 00:22:44.534 --> 00:22:48.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So voters only have to vote in one election, which is helpful, 00:22:48.334 --> 00:22:50.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it gives candidates a longer runway 00:22:50.100 --> 00:22:52.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to make their arguments to voters 00:22:52.133 --> 00:22:54.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and, frankly, get more attention, 00:22:54.534 --> 00:22:56.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% aside from the super plugged-in primary voters who show up 00:22:56.934 --> 00:22:59.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and are following this from day one of the campaigns. 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so I think our decision was largely based on the fact 00:23:02.367 --> 00:23:03.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that because of state law, 00:23:03.901 --> 00:23:06.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we don't have the ability to do that in this implementation. 00:23:06.934 --> 00:23:10.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But we still wanted to have a strong signal to policymakers 00:23:10.100 --> 00:23:12.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% at the county level and in Olympia 00:23:12.334 --> 00:23:14.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that people do want ranked choice voting. 00:23:14.534 --> 00:23:15.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We would just like the flexibility 00:23:15.934 --> 00:23:17.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of getting all the benefits. -Got it. Got it. 00:23:17.834 --> 00:23:19.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I know the state's working on some issues there. 00:23:19.434 --> 00:23:21.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% King County is working on this one, too. 00:23:21.100 --> 00:23:22.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Naomi, some thoughts on this one? 00:23:22.534 --> 00:23:24.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% This proposition was definitely challenging to understand. 00:23:24.734 --> 00:23:26.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "The Times" also endorsed a "no" vote on question one 00:23:26.934 --> 00:23:29.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and said "pick neither one" on 1A and 1B. 00:23:29.667 --> 00:23:31.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I should point out that ranked choice 00:23:31.067 --> 00:23:32.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% got demolished in other jurisdictions. 00:23:32.667 --> 00:23:34.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They were thinking about this in our state. 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Clark County in San Juan County said no 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:37.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with strong majorities there. 00:23:37.634 --> 00:23:39.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What do you think happens next with this idea 00:23:39.501 --> 00:23:41.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of changing the way we vote, potentially? 00:23:41.634 --> 00:23:45.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate because I was super confused 00:23:45.767 --> 00:23:47.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just reading the ballot language. 00:23:47.234 --> 00:23:49.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You know, and I work at a newspaper. 00:23:49.634 --> 00:23:52.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm a native English speaker, and I couldn't make heads 00:23:52.701 --> 00:23:54.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% or tails out of it. 00:23:54.133 --> 00:23:55.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And thankfully, you know, 00:23:55.734 --> 00:23:57.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% reading these different resources, 00:23:57.367 --> 00:23:58.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% was able to kind of make some sense 00:23:58.734 --> 00:24:00.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of what some of the core issues are. 00:24:00.167 --> 00:24:03.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But I think looking at how we vote is really important. 00:24:03.701 --> 00:24:05.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that this is, you know, 00:24:05.100 --> 00:24:08.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in a lot of ways, a positive step forward as an approach, 00:24:08.033 --> 00:24:10.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but not if people don't understand how it works. 00:24:10.968 --> 00:24:12.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And you're creating all this confusion 00:24:12.868 --> 00:24:15.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and chaos in some ways. 00:24:15.133 --> 00:24:16.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think, you know, if this is something 00:24:16.767 --> 00:24:18.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that we want to explore, look at, 00:24:18.467 --> 00:24:21.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it has to be done in a much more streamlined, 00:24:21.367 --> 00:24:24.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% clear, you know, way that the voters can understand. 00:24:24.534 --> 00:24:27.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, just about the only place where approval voting 00:24:27.100 --> 00:24:29.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and ranked choice voting were on the ballot, 00:24:29.100 --> 00:24:31.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which I think made it very difficult for people. 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:32.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It is time to wrap up. 00:24:32.300 --> 00:24:34.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And Naomi, let me start with you here. 00:24:34.067 --> 00:24:35.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Some thoughts about turnout for this election. 00:24:35.601 --> 00:24:38.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I called King County elections to talk about this. 00:24:38.033 --> 00:24:40.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They're telling me it'll wind up close to 65%, 00:24:40.267 --> 00:24:42.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which is lower than the 72% 00:24:42.434 --> 00:24:44.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% they thought we might have at least a couple of weeks ago 00:24:44.868 --> 00:24:49.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and definitely lower than the 76% turnout we had in 2018. 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Anything you make of that? Were people turned off? 00:24:51.667 --> 00:24:54.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Not as many people wanted to show up? Any thoughts there? 00:24:54.434 --> 00:24:56.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, it's really surprising to hear that 00:24:56.300 --> 00:24:58.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because, you know, looking at what happened 00:24:58.033 --> 00:25:00.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% yesterday at Lumen Field, you know, people lining up... 00:25:00.067 --> 00:25:02.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Lot of people. Yeah. -...for hours to try 00:25:02.167 --> 00:25:04.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to vote provisionally or vote for the first time. 00:25:04.934 --> 00:25:06.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You saw full ballot boxes. 00:25:06.367 --> 00:25:09.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I mean, obviously that's not quantitative information. 00:25:09.834 --> 00:25:13.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But I do think it's telling. 00:25:13.167 --> 00:25:15.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm surprised that that's the outcome. 00:25:15.033 --> 00:25:17.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But one of the things that I think is important 00:25:17.167 --> 00:25:19.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as a takeaway, perhaps, from this election 00:25:19.634 --> 00:25:23.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is the vote of young people, of Gen-Z. 00:25:23.234 --> 00:25:25.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think we're gonna see a lot of stories about that. 00:25:25.067 --> 00:25:28.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And you're seeing an overwhelming favor 00:25:28.234 --> 00:25:30.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% towards Democrats from that generation, 00:25:30.601 --> 00:25:31.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and you're seeing the first Gen-Z person 00:25:31.901 --> 00:25:33.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% elected to Congress. 00:25:33.167 --> 00:25:34.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So I think that's gonna be a story we're gonna be 00:25:34.667 --> 00:25:36.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% talking about for a long time and might be the sleeping giant 00:25:36.901 --> 00:25:39.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that people haven't really been paying enough attention to. 00:25:39.567 --> 00:25:41.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Interesting points there, all. Thank you. 00:25:41.100 --> 00:25:43.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Will, any thoughts about voter turnout? Just wrapping up here. 00:25:43.267 --> 00:25:44.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Oh, I just think it's gonna be interesting to see, 00:25:44.868 --> 00:25:47.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% once we can really dive into the details of that data, 00:25:47.667 --> 00:25:49.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% where the drop-off happened, right? 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Because I think something I've been curious about 00:25:50.901 --> 00:25:52.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for the last couple of election cycles here 00:25:52.667 --> 00:25:56.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is as sort of a shibboleth among the Republican Party 00:25:56.534 --> 00:25:58.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% nationally becomes, you know, 00:25:58.100 --> 00:25:59.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that they don't trust our election systems, 00:25:59.701 --> 00:26:02.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that's gonna have some sort of trickle-down effect 00:26:02.033 --> 00:26:04.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and discouraging turnout, and I think that that's, 00:26:04.267 --> 00:26:06.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, frankly, a very concerning trend, 00:26:06.267 --> 00:26:08.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because if people start -- 00:26:08.100 --> 00:26:10.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if there are no wins, right, for those candidates, 00:26:10.868 --> 00:26:12.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then it's sort of a self-feeding narrative 00:26:12.968 --> 00:26:15.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and you get an increasingly larger and larger portion 00:26:15.901 --> 00:26:17.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of the electorate that just doesn't have 00:26:17.901 --> 00:26:19.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% a relationship to the system, and that's a problem. 00:26:19.734 --> 00:26:22.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Well, we're gonna talk about these problems, I know, 00:26:22.100 --> 00:26:23.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% over the next several months and years. 00:26:23.501 --> 00:26:25.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So I appreciate all this back and forth. 00:26:25.067 --> 00:26:26.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Will and Naomi, thank you very much. 00:26:26.601 --> 00:26:28.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we will be right back. 00:26:28.467 --> 00:26:31.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:26:31.934 --> 00:26:33.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What are people saying on social media 00:26:33.801 --> 00:26:35.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about the midterm elections? 00:26:35.300 --> 00:26:36.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% One person writes... 00:26:50.167 --> 00:26:51.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Another says... 00:27:03.767 --> 00:27:05.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We'd like to know what you think. 00:27:05.834 --> 00:27:09.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Send us an e-mail at contact@seattlechannel.org 00:27:09.334 --> 00:27:13.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% or find us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 00:27:13.868 --> 00:27:16.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Coming up next time, a conversation with the head 00:27:16.467 --> 00:27:19.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of King County's Regional Homelessness Authority. 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Marc Dones has been on the job for more than a year. 00:27:22.567 --> 00:27:25.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Are we closer to solving the region's homelessness crisis? 00:27:25.801 --> 00:27:28.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We check in on the next "City Inside Out." 00:27:28.334 --> 00:27:29.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I hope you join us. 00:27:29.901 --> 00:27:37.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:44.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:27:44.501 --> 00:27:51.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪