WEBVTT 00:00:00.667 --> 00:00:03.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:00:03.334 --> 00:00:05.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And the candidate with the most votes wins. 00:00:05.601 --> 00:00:08.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -This fall, Seattle voters will be asked 00:00:08.267 --> 00:00:10.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if they want to change how they select 00:00:10.200 --> 00:00:13.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% future mayors, city attorneys, and council members. 00:00:13.133 --> 00:00:15.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It's democratic because the candidate 00:00:15.100 --> 00:00:16.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with the most support wins. 00:00:16.801 --> 00:00:19.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Two competing alternatives are on the ballot, as well. 00:00:19.968 --> 00:00:21.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -You vote for me first and Betsy second. 00:00:21.934 --> 00:00:24.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -We break down Seattle Proposition 1 00:00:24.467 --> 00:00:27.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and explain approval voting and ranked choice voting. 00:00:27.868 --> 00:00:29.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It opens up more voices. 00:00:29.434 --> 00:00:31.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And we hear from two places 00:00:31.167 --> 00:00:33.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that have implemented these two systems. 00:00:33.334 --> 00:00:36.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Ranked choice has worked well for us in Maine. 00:00:36.434 --> 00:00:38.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The thing that we really loved about approval voting 00:00:38.734 --> 00:00:41.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is that it's just very straightforward. 00:00:41.067 --> 00:00:42.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Before you cast your vote, 00:00:42.601 --> 00:00:45.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% advocates from both sides weigh in. 00:00:45.033 --> 00:00:46.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The votes are counted. 00:00:46.367 --> 00:00:48.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Making sense of Seattle Prop 1, 00:00:48.567 --> 00:00:51.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% next on "City Inside Out." 00:00:51.300 --> 00:01:00.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:01:00.534 --> 00:01:09.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:01:09.701 --> 00:01:12.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Welcome to this edition of "City Inside Out." 00:01:12.300 --> 00:01:14.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm your host, Brian Callanan. 00:01:14.067 --> 00:01:18.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Up till now, Seattle voters have picked one candidate per race 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:19.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% during our primary elections. 00:01:19.868 --> 00:01:21.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But that may soon change, 00:01:21.701 --> 00:01:24.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% depending on what happens with Seattle Proposition 1 00:01:24.868 --> 00:01:26.234 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% on November 8th. 00:01:26.234 --> 00:01:28.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Pay attention because how you vote 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% will determine how the next Seattle mayor, city attorney, 00:01:31.167 --> 00:01:34.334 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and city council get elected. 00:01:34.334 --> 00:01:38.267 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% This fall, Seattle voters will decide whether they prefer 00:01:38.267 --> 00:01:41.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% picking more than one candidate in future city primary elections 00:01:41.834 --> 00:01:45.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and which of two alternate voting systems they favor. 00:01:45.033 --> 00:01:49.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% On the ballet is Proposition 1, a two-part question. 00:01:49.133 --> 00:01:50.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The first question is -- 00:01:50.467 --> 00:01:54.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% should we change the current voting system, yes or no? 00:01:54.501 --> 00:01:56.167 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% The second question is -- 00:01:56.167 --> 00:01:59.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% if the system is changed, do you favor 1A, 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:00.767 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% which is approval voting, 00:02:00.767 --> 00:02:03.701 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% or 1B, which is ranked choice voting? 00:02:03.701 --> 00:02:05.434 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% More on those options later. 00:02:05.434 --> 00:02:08.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% But let's focus on that first question to begin. 00:02:08.634 --> 00:02:12.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% On November 8th, if the majority votes no to the first question, 00:02:12.901 --> 00:02:15.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% future Seattle city elections would stay the same. 00:02:15.767 --> 00:02:19.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You pick your top candidate, and the top two vote getters advance 00:02:19.334 --> 00:02:20.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to the general election. 00:02:20.734 --> 00:02:23.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But if the majority votes yes, 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:26.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% what do Propositions 1A and 1B mean? 00:02:26.367 --> 00:02:29.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Proposition 1A is a system called approval voting, 00:02:29.901 --> 00:02:31.434 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and it works like this. 00:02:31.434 --> 00:02:34.567 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Let's imagine the candidates are ice cream flavors. 00:02:34.567 --> 00:02:38.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% In the primary, you select as many flavors as you approve of, 00:02:38.234 --> 00:02:40.200 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and the two most popular ones 00:02:40.200 --> 00:02:42.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% will advance to the general election. 00:02:42.367 --> 00:02:46.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Proposition 1B is a system called ranked choice voting, 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:47.868 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and it works like this. 00:02:47.868 --> 00:02:51.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% In the first round, voters rank their favorite flavors 00:02:51.501 --> 00:02:54.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% from 1 to 5 if they like more than one flavor. 00:02:54.801 --> 00:02:57.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Think of the second choice as a backup. 00:02:57.601 --> 00:03:00.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Let's say your top choice is strawberry, 00:03:00.200 --> 00:03:03.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but it's the least popular flavor and gets eliminated. 00:03:03.234 --> 00:03:06.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Your second choice, pistachio, will get counted instead 00:03:06.901 --> 00:03:08.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so your vote isn't wasted. 00:03:08.834 --> 00:03:11.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% This process of elimination continues 00:03:11.667 --> 00:03:13.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% till two flavors are left. 00:03:13.767 --> 00:03:16.200 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Voters will pick from one of those two flavors 00:03:16.200 --> 00:03:17.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% in the general election. 00:03:17.801 --> 00:03:21.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, will Seattle voters preserve the status quo 00:03:21.467 --> 00:03:23.567 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% or overhaul the current system 00:03:23.567 --> 00:03:25.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and favor picking multiple candidates? 00:03:25.901 --> 00:03:29.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Remember to weigh in on November 8th. 00:03:29.100 --> 00:03:37.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:03:37.968 --> 00:03:39.534 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% To get some perspective 00:03:39.534 --> 00:03:42.100 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% on this possible change to Seattle's elections, 00:03:42.100 --> 00:03:44.300 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% we spoke with organizers in St. Louis, 00:03:44.300 --> 00:03:45.801 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% which has approval voting, 00:03:45.801 --> 00:03:47.200 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and in Portland, Maine, 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:49.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% where voters use a ranked choice system. 00:03:49.167 --> 00:03:50.968 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% It's a tale of two cities 00:03:50.968 --> 00:03:53.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that are trying something new with the Democratic process, 00:03:53.634 --> 00:03:56.467 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and Seattle may not be far behind them. 00:03:56.467 --> 00:03:59.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Washington is totally broken. 00:03:59.501 --> 00:04:01.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Washington is broken. 00:04:01.234 --> 00:04:03.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Washington right now is broken. 00:04:03.167 --> 00:04:05.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Nationwide, a majority of people 00:04:05.901 --> 00:04:09.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% believe our political process has serious problems. 00:04:09.334 --> 00:04:11.934 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Mallory Rusch says approval voting 00:04:11.934 --> 00:04:14.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% could be part of the solution, starting at the city level. 00:04:14.901 --> 00:04:18.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It passed really overwhelmingly here in St. Louis. 00:04:18.334 --> 00:04:22.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Rusch, Executive Director of the nonprofit Empower Missouri, 00:04:22.334 --> 00:04:27.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% helped Prop D pass with 68% of the vote in 2020, 00:04:27.133 --> 00:04:31.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as voters supported the idea of choosing multiple candidates 00:04:31.067 --> 00:04:33.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% rather than being forced to pick just one. 00:04:33.334 --> 00:04:35.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It's just very straightforward. 00:04:35.033 --> 00:04:37.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You vote for as many candidates as you want. 00:04:37.634 --> 00:04:40.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The candidate with the most votes wins. 00:04:40.167 --> 00:04:42.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It doesn't get much simpler than that. 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -This is called approval voting. 00:04:44.133 --> 00:04:46.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Supporters of approval voting, 00:04:46.200 --> 00:04:48.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% used in St. Louis and Fargo, North Dakota, 00:04:48.801 --> 00:04:52.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% say this system virtually eliminates spoiler candidates, 00:04:52.501 --> 00:04:54.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the ones that can split the vote 00:04:54.434 --> 00:04:57.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in our current plurality voting system, as it's called. 00:04:57.934 --> 00:05:01.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Rusch says approval voting has made an impact in St. Louis 00:05:01.834 --> 00:05:04.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% by encouraging candidates to find a middle ground 00:05:04.834 --> 00:05:06.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and appeal to voters 00:05:06.200 --> 00:05:09.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with progressive, moderate, or conservative politics. 00:05:09.200 --> 00:05:11.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -When you are running a campaign 00:05:11.300 --> 00:05:14.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in an election that is using approval voting, 00:05:14.367 --> 00:05:18.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% your job is to make your tent as big as possible. 00:05:18.467 --> 00:05:21.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Portland, Maine, is also changing local elections, 00:05:21.400 --> 00:05:22.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but with a different system. 00:05:22.901 --> 00:05:25.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The state of Maine is now using ranked choice voting. 00:05:25.534 --> 00:05:28.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -People, once they start using ranked choice, 00:05:28.334 --> 00:05:32.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% like it and want to expand it to other offices. 00:05:32.067 --> 00:05:34.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Anna Kellar is Executive Director 00:05:34.300 --> 00:05:36.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of the League of Women Voters in Maine 00:05:36.267 --> 00:05:39.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and helped with the passage of ranked choice voting 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:40.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in Portland in 2010. 00:05:40.968 --> 00:05:42.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -So, how does it work? 00:05:42.367 --> 00:05:43.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The system, where voters 00:05:43.801 --> 00:05:46.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% rank their top choices in each position, 00:05:46.067 --> 00:05:48.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% has expanded to include the vote 00:05:48.334 --> 00:05:51.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for governor and federal offices statewide. 00:05:51.133 --> 00:05:55.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Kellar says ranked choice has prompted more candidates to run, 00:05:55.234 --> 00:05:57.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% creating three- or four-way races 00:05:57.767 --> 00:05:59.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% where more voices are heard. 00:05:59.234 --> 00:06:02.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And I think that has really enriched 00:06:02.100 --> 00:06:04.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% both the debate in those races 00:06:04.067 --> 00:06:06.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as well as preparing people 00:06:06.367 --> 00:06:09.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to run and serve for those offices 00:06:09.300 --> 00:06:11.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% who otherwise might have been shut out 00:06:11.567 --> 00:06:14.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% or discouraged from running. 00:06:14.234 --> 00:06:17.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Ranked choice voting is used in many more jurisdictions 00:06:17.701 --> 00:06:19.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% compared to approval voting, 00:06:19.367 --> 00:06:21.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and Kellar says the research shows, 00:06:21.767 --> 00:06:25.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% while RCV won't solve all the problems of politics, 00:06:25.434 --> 00:06:26.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it's a good start. 00:06:26.801 --> 00:06:29.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Rather than just getting frustrated 00:06:29.734 --> 00:06:31.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and writing off politics, 00:06:31.601 --> 00:06:34.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% let's try doing it in a different way. 00:06:34.234 --> 00:06:36.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -But is Seattle ready for change? 00:06:36.434 --> 00:06:37.567 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Seattle has been willing 00:06:37.567 --> 00:06:40.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to experiment with democratic processes. 00:06:40.501 --> 00:06:43.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Mark Smith is a professor of political science 00:06:43.534 --> 00:06:45.300 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% at the University of Washington 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:47.467 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% who says, while Seattle voters 00:06:47.467 --> 00:06:50.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% have approved uncommon measures like democracy vouchers 00:06:50.634 --> 00:06:52.133 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% to support candidates, 00:06:52.133 --> 00:06:55.801 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% asking them to change the voting system entirely will be tricky. 00:06:55.801 --> 00:06:58.167 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -It's often confusing the first time around. 00:06:58.167 --> 00:07:00.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Smith says the ranked choice option, 00:07:00.634 --> 00:07:03.000 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% because it's used in more jurisdictions, 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:04.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% has been studied more closely. 00:07:04.534 --> 00:07:06.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -You can vote for me first and Betsy second. 00:07:06.667 --> 00:07:10.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And in some cases, it's led to less negative campaigning 00:07:10.200 --> 00:07:11.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and fewer attack ads. 00:07:11.801 --> 00:07:13.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -You don't want to totally alienate the other one 00:07:13.701 --> 00:07:17.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and their supporters 'cause you want their second-choice votes. 00:07:17.667 --> 00:07:19.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So there's more incentive -- 00:07:19.200 --> 00:07:21.534 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% what can you do rather than sort of tearing down 00:07:21.534 --> 00:07:22.901 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% the other candidates? 00:07:22.901 --> 00:07:24.501 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -In Seattle, approval voting 00:07:24.501 --> 00:07:27.767 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% looked like it would be on the ballet by itself this fall, 00:07:27.767 --> 00:07:30.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% until a majority of the Seattle City Council 00:07:30.434 --> 00:07:33.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% pushed through an ordinance adding the ranked choice option 00:07:33.834 --> 00:07:35.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for voters in July. 00:07:35.067 --> 00:07:37.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -And I do think this is an appropriate action 00:07:37.901 --> 00:07:39.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for the council to take. 00:07:39.167 --> 00:07:41.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Approval voting, if voters choose that option, 00:07:41.734 --> 00:07:44.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% would go into effect in 2025, 00:07:44.701 --> 00:07:47.367 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% ranked choice by 2027, 00:07:47.367 --> 00:07:50.334 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% setting the stage this fall for elected officials 00:07:50.334 --> 00:07:53.067 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% to take a stand on the very way they're elected. 00:07:53.067 --> 00:07:56.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -I think people will take cues from from trusted figures 00:07:56.234 --> 00:07:57.467 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% within the city. 00:07:57.467 --> 00:07:59.167 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -What cues will you take 00:07:59.167 --> 00:08:02.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% when it comes to the future of elections in Seattle? 00:08:02.434 --> 00:08:04.100 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Get ready to cast a vote 00:08:04.100 --> 00:08:07.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% on the way you vote this November. 00:08:07.367 --> 00:08:09.234 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, to explain more about Proposition 1 00:08:09.234 --> 00:08:11.300 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% and specifically 1A and 1B, 00:08:11.300 --> 00:08:13.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we have with us Jazmine Smith -- 00:08:13.067 --> 00:08:15.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% she is political manager of The Washington Bus, 00:08:15.200 --> 00:08:17.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% speaking in favor of ranked choice voting -- 00:08:17.033 --> 00:08:18.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and Logan Bowers, 00:08:18.200 --> 00:08:20.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% co-chair of the Seattle Approves campaign, 00:08:20.234 --> 00:08:21.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which supports approval voting. 00:08:21.934 --> 00:08:23.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, we've explained on this show 00:08:23.667 --> 00:08:25.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% how approval voting and ranked choice voting work, 00:08:25.501 --> 00:08:26.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and we've put a spotlight on two cities 00:08:26.901 --> 00:08:28.968 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% that are using those different systems right now. 00:08:28.968 --> 00:08:30.634 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% So, let's focus on Seattle at this point. 00:08:30.634 --> 00:08:32.467 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% Logan, I will go to you first. 00:08:32.467 --> 00:08:35.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% If voters decide to change the city's election system, 00:08:35.367 --> 00:08:37.400 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% Why is approval voting the right choice 00:08:37.400 --> 00:08:38.701 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% compared to ranked choice? 00:08:38.701 --> 00:08:41.000 align:middle line:93% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, so, we started 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the Seattle Approves campaign in 2020. 00:08:44.567 --> 00:08:46.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We wanted to make elections in Seattle 00:08:46.434 --> 00:08:49.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as fair, as equitable, as representative as possible. 00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:51.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so we looked across the country to find, 00:08:51.467 --> 00:08:55.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% what were the groundbreaking voting reforms going on? 00:08:55.300 --> 00:08:59.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And what we found was an amazing group of folks in St. Louis 00:08:59.334 --> 00:09:04.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that had just passed a new reform, approval voting, 00:09:04.234 --> 00:09:07.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and put it to use in their local elections. 00:09:07.834 --> 00:09:11.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And what we saw was, we saw folks, 00:09:11.033 --> 00:09:12.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% supporters there, saying amazing stuff, like, 00:09:12.767 --> 00:09:15.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "Approval voting will make sure most voters 00:09:15.133 --> 00:09:17.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% actually support the winning candidate," 00:09:17.300 --> 00:09:19.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "I'm proud to support approval voting 00:09:19.100 --> 00:09:20.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so our representatives work hard to earn our votes." 00:09:20.968 --> 00:09:22.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% That was Representative Cori Bush, 00:09:22.834 --> 00:09:24.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% member of the Squad. 00:09:24.901 --> 00:09:27.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we saw that representative power play out. 00:09:27.534 --> 00:09:29.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The city elected a Black woman mayor 00:09:29.868 --> 00:09:31.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for the first time in its history, 00:09:31.267 --> 00:09:33.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which is pretty groundbreaking for that city. 00:09:33.968 --> 00:09:36.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we thought, "This is the best voting system 00:09:36.167 --> 00:09:37.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% currently in use in the country," 00:09:37.367 --> 00:09:39.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so we said, "Let's bring it to Seattle." 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We went to work 43,000 signatures later, 00:09:41.968 --> 00:09:43.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it's appeared on the ballot. -Okay. Alright. 00:09:43.534 --> 00:09:44.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we'll get to that other piece of it 00:09:44.801 --> 00:09:46.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with the ballot piece next. 00:09:46.334 --> 00:09:48.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But, Jazmine, similar question to you. 00:09:48.334 --> 00:09:49.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% If voters say yes to Prop 1, 00:09:49.767 --> 00:09:53.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% why should they choose ranked choice over approval voting? 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:55.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Ranked choice is the most representative, 00:09:55.734 --> 00:09:59.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the best, most proven system that there is. 00:09:59.567 --> 00:10:01.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It's used in 53 jurisdictions. 00:10:01.801 --> 00:10:06.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It'll be on 53 -- or, sorry, 50 in the next election. 00:10:06.834 --> 00:10:11.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And it's just been shown to be the best way 00:10:11.534 --> 00:10:14.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to show how people feel 00:10:14.634 --> 00:10:18.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and how they want to vote. -Yeah. 00:10:18.934 --> 00:10:20.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And rank their choices, too. -Exactly. 00:10:20.434 --> 00:10:21.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I did want to point out, there's a difference 00:10:21.868 --> 00:10:24.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in terms of when these programs would be implemented. 00:10:24.634 --> 00:10:27.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% 2025 and -- Can we go into that briefly, please? 00:10:27.367 --> 00:10:31.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. August 2025 would be the most likely timeline 00:10:31.634 --> 00:10:32.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for both of them 00:10:32.968 --> 00:10:36.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because our system needs to go through -- 00:10:36.267 --> 00:10:39.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Since there would be a change regardless, 00:10:39.234 --> 00:10:40.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then it wouldn't be automatic. 00:10:40.734 --> 00:10:44.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It wouldn't be as soon as 2023, as likely. 00:10:44.934 --> 00:10:46.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Mm-hmm. 00:10:46.300 --> 00:10:49.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -But it wouldn't be necessarily as late as 2027. 00:10:49.834 --> 00:10:51.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It's just kind of like overshooting -- 00:10:51.501 --> 00:10:54.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "by 2027" on that end. -I see. Thank you. 00:10:54.534 --> 00:10:55.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. Let me have Logan jump in. 00:10:55.834 --> 00:10:58.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, so, the the two propositions as written -- 00:10:58.133 --> 00:11:01.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% 1A could be as late as 2025. 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% 1B could be as late as 2027. 00:11:03.601 --> 00:11:08.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We actually believe Proposition 1A is implementable for 2023, 00:11:08.267 --> 00:11:10.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and the reason is because it is so simple. 00:11:10.033 --> 00:11:12.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It works with the existing ballot design. 00:11:12.400 --> 00:11:14.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It works with the existing certified voting software, 00:11:14.901 --> 00:11:17.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% already supports it out of the box. 00:11:17.300 --> 00:11:18.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And in St. Louis, 00:11:18.534 --> 00:11:21.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it only took four months to implement. 00:11:21.701 --> 00:11:24.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So we're optimistic that we can get that 00:11:24.601 --> 00:11:25.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as early as the next election. 00:11:25.834 --> 00:11:27.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Please. 00:11:27.067 --> 00:11:29.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The difference is that we have more robust laws, 00:11:29.501 --> 00:11:32.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and we would actually have to do more testing, regardless, 00:11:32.868 --> 00:11:34.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and voter education for both. 00:11:34.601 --> 00:11:37.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You should still do voter education on both ranked choice 00:11:37.868 --> 00:11:39.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and approval voting regardless. -Absolutely. 00:11:39.634 --> 00:11:41.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Absolutely true. Yeah, thank you. 00:11:41.734 --> 00:11:43.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we'll definitely jump into that piece 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:44.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in a little bit, Jazmine. 00:11:44.634 --> 00:11:46.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Logan, I want to go back to you, though, and talk about this -- 00:11:46.400 --> 00:11:48.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% approval voting used in only two cities in the U.S. -- 00:11:48.834 --> 00:11:51.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% St. Louis, Missouri, Fargo, North Dakota. 00:11:51.100 --> 00:11:52.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% RCV, as Jazmine is telling us, 00:11:52.567 --> 00:11:54.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% used in more than 50 jurisdictions, 00:11:54.367 --> 00:11:55.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% has been studied much more. 00:11:55.868 --> 00:11:58.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What's your response to the critique that approval voting 00:11:58.100 --> 00:11:59.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is an untested system? 00:11:59.534 --> 00:12:02.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, none of these voting systems are new. 00:12:02.067 --> 00:12:03.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They've actually all been around for hundreds of years, 00:12:03.968 --> 00:12:06.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and they've all been used in kind of the distant past, 00:12:06.834 --> 00:12:10.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and there's plenty of evidence to show that they work. 00:12:10.033 --> 00:12:12.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It's only in the recent American cities 00:12:12.434 --> 00:12:14.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that we're choosing what to adopt. 00:12:14.501 --> 00:12:16.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I would say it's kind of like, you know, 00:12:16.868 --> 00:12:19.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if you had a Windows phone in 2007 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:20.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% when the iPhone came out. 00:12:20.267 --> 00:12:22.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Like, yeah, you know, 00:12:22.334 --> 00:12:24.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% there were more Windows phones in the world, 00:12:24.067 --> 00:12:25.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but when something new and better comes along, 00:12:25.634 --> 00:12:27.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that's more representative... 00:12:27.267 --> 00:12:31.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Approval voting delivers more accurate results, 00:12:31.100 --> 00:12:33.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% relative to the will of the voters, 00:12:33.734 --> 00:12:36.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it does so without disenfranchising voters 00:12:36.434 --> 00:12:37.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with a complex ballot. 00:12:37.968 --> 00:12:41.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So the more complex description in the opening segment, 00:12:41.767 --> 00:12:45.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you can see research shows that disenfranchises 00:12:45.234 --> 00:12:47.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% somewhere between 2% and 4% of voters. 00:12:47.601 --> 00:12:49.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They just -- the ballot is so much more complicated. 00:12:49.734 --> 00:12:51.834 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% In Seattle, it would have somewhere between 00:12:51.834 --> 00:12:54.434 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% 80 and 256 ovals for a mayoral race. 00:12:54.434 --> 00:12:57.367 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% -Okay. -That you you lose voters, 00:12:57.367 --> 00:12:59.033 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% and the effect gets worse the bigger the race. 00:12:59.033 --> 00:13:01.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, you know, in Seattle, where we have 15-way races, 00:13:01.834 --> 00:13:03.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that effect can be as high as 8%. 00:13:03.534 --> 00:13:05.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So the nice thing about approval voting 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is you don't get that dropoff in voter turnout, 00:13:09.167 --> 00:13:11.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and you get even more representational power. 00:13:11.701 --> 00:13:13.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, we move on to something better. 00:13:13.067 --> 00:13:15.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I feel like there's a representation here with regard 00:13:15.367 --> 00:13:17.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to how this is being explained with 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:18.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ranked choice voting. 00:13:18.234 --> 00:13:19.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Please, go ahead. 00:13:19.567 --> 00:13:21.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% This disenfranchisement piece that Logan brought up. 00:13:21.167 --> 00:13:25.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I would say that there's more enfranchisement 00:13:25.467 --> 00:13:28.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% when people know that their vote isn't wasted. 00:13:28.501 --> 00:13:32.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And New York's, I believe, 10% increase in voter turnout 00:13:32.267 --> 00:13:34.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% by people who may have known 00:13:34.067 --> 00:13:36.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that their favorite wasn't going to make it through, 00:13:36.434 --> 00:13:37.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but they could still vote for them 00:13:37.734 --> 00:13:42.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and show that preference for other folks as well, 00:13:42.067 --> 00:13:48.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and that it doesn't actually trip people up as much 00:13:48.467 --> 00:13:51.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as is being portrayed. 00:13:51.234 --> 00:13:53.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% 95% of New Yorkers said 00:13:53.968 --> 00:13:56.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that ranked choice voting was simple, 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and Alaskans in that last election, 00:13:59.334 --> 00:14:02.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% 85% said that it was simple to use. 00:14:02.434 --> 00:14:04.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -The disenfranchisement comes from 00:14:04.033 --> 00:14:06.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the other 15% that had a hard time. 00:14:06.267 --> 00:14:07.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Okay. 00:14:07.767 --> 00:14:09.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Did you have any thoughts about this disenfranchisement piece? 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:10.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I know you touched on it. 00:14:10.300 --> 00:14:11.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I just wanted to have you 00:14:11.767 --> 00:14:13.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% have a response, if you'd like. 00:14:13.100 --> 00:14:18.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -It's not necessarily disenfranchisement if they say 00:14:18.234 --> 00:14:21.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that it wasn't necessarily that simple. 00:14:21.300 --> 00:14:26.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I would say that getting more people to turn out and show up 00:14:26.667 --> 00:14:29.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is enfranchising those voters. 00:14:29.100 --> 00:14:35.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think that when 00:14:35.267 --> 00:14:37.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% more communities of color are turning out 00:14:37.601 --> 00:14:40.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and are utilizing ranked choice voting, 00:14:40.400 --> 00:14:43.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then that's more representative, 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:48.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and that when compared to approval voting, 00:14:48.968 --> 00:14:52.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then we saw that communities of color were less likely 00:14:52.868 --> 00:14:56.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to engage with approval voting and just do bullet voting, 00:14:56.834 --> 00:14:58.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which is where you just do the one 00:14:58.267 --> 00:15:00.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because you know that voting for multiple people 00:15:00.133 --> 00:15:03.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% will dilute your vote or show that -- 00:15:03.033 --> 00:15:05.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% or it'll hurt your favorite, whereas you can still vote 00:15:05.601 --> 00:15:07.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for your favorite with ranked choice voting. 00:15:07.501 --> 00:15:08.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay, got it. 00:15:08.601 --> 00:15:09.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I'm going to try to move on from that, 00:15:09.767 --> 00:15:11.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because I think we covered that very well. 00:15:11.367 --> 00:15:12.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But Logan, I'll jump back to you 00:15:12.767 --> 00:15:14.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and get into some nitty gritty here. 00:15:14.033 --> 00:15:16.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So approval voting is I-134. 00:15:16.334 --> 00:15:17.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It looked like it would be on the ballot by itself 00:15:17.968 --> 00:15:20.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% a few months ago, but the Seattle City Council 00:15:20.100 --> 00:15:22.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% decided to add the ranked choice voting for voters, too. 00:15:22.801 --> 00:15:24.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What was your response to that decision? 00:15:24.567 --> 00:15:27.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, you know, 00:15:27.033 --> 00:15:30.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it's really important to be careful 00:15:30.167 --> 00:15:34.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% when you're manipulating the system by which you're elected. 00:15:34.367 --> 00:15:37.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So I think it's a little shocking that the city council 00:15:37.834 --> 00:15:40.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% would choose to draft a bill in two days 00:15:40.601 --> 00:15:43.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and pass it without consulting any experts. 00:15:43.567 --> 00:15:46.501 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% There's many different kinds of ranked choice voting. 00:15:46.501 --> 00:15:49.901 align:middle line:87% position:50% size:90% You know, some are better, some are worse. 00:15:49.901 --> 00:15:51.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You know, Portland, for example, 00:15:51.300 --> 00:15:54.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% has an RCV proposal that looks nothing like Seattle's, 00:15:54.100 --> 00:15:55.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and in fact, 00:15:55.534 --> 00:15:58.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% avoids many of the pitfalls that the council proposal has. 00:15:58.467 --> 00:16:00.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So I'm a little surprised that they would propose 00:16:00.667 --> 00:16:02.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% rewriting their own election rules, 00:16:02.133 --> 00:16:04.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you know, faster than they would rename a post office. 00:16:04.400 --> 00:16:06.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay, Jazmine, some thoughts on this? 00:16:06.734 --> 00:16:08.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Did the council rush this through 00:16:08.300 --> 00:16:09.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to get RCV on the ballot? 00:16:09.968 --> 00:16:12.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Why didn't ranked choice voting gather signatures 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and pursue an initiative campaign of its own? 00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:15.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Because we were working in Olympia. 00:16:15.868 --> 00:16:20.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We were doing the work for local options on 5584 00:16:20.167 --> 00:16:21.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with Senator Trudeau. 00:16:21.734 --> 00:16:25.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And that's where our focus was during the legislative session 00:16:25.534 --> 00:16:28.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and getting ranked choice voting 00:16:28.033 --> 00:16:30.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for communities across Washington. 00:16:30.734 --> 00:16:37.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so when the city council went through the correct process 00:16:37.467 --> 00:16:41.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that's laid out in the charter of when you have an initiative, 00:16:41.701 --> 00:16:43.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you can also have a competing proposal, 00:16:43.934 --> 00:16:48.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then that's what they did, and absolutely support it. 00:16:48.234 --> 00:16:54.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I agree with what was said by council members 00:16:54.033 --> 00:16:56.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that when we're engaging with democracy, 00:16:56.434 --> 00:16:59.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then the voters should have all of the options in front of them, 00:16:59.267 --> 00:17:01.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just not the one that got in front of them first. 00:17:01.767 --> 00:17:03.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay, and Logan, I think I want 00:17:03.801 --> 00:17:06.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to keep going down this path here that Jazmine's alluding to. 00:17:06.667 --> 00:17:09.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% When the council looked at I-134, 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Andrew Lewis pointed out that if Seattleites chose 00:17:11.868 --> 00:17:14.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% approval voting in 2022, that would potentially set up 00:17:14.601 --> 00:17:16.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% a non-conforming system with King County, 00:17:16.801 --> 00:17:19.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% where Councilmember Zahilay and others are working to pass 00:17:19.601 --> 00:17:21.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ranked choice voting in 2023. 00:17:21.334 --> 00:17:22.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% How do you react to that? 00:17:22.667 --> 00:17:25.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, you know, people have been proposing 00:17:25.133 --> 00:17:29.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% voting reform measures for 25 years now, 00:17:29.801 --> 00:17:32.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and they're all hypothetical, right? 00:17:32.501 --> 00:17:33.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Throughout that whole time, 00:17:33.767 --> 00:17:36.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we're still using the same voting system 00:17:36.667 --> 00:17:39.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% now, about 18 years or so. 00:17:39.534 --> 00:17:44.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So, you know, we put I-134, Proposition 1A on the ballot 00:17:44.601 --> 00:17:49.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because we wanted something that was legal, that was simple, 00:17:49.634 --> 00:17:52.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% easy to use, easy to understand, and would give us 00:17:52.133 --> 00:17:54.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as much representational power right now. 00:17:54.133 --> 00:17:56.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I think there's interesting things to do in Olympia 00:17:56.300 --> 00:17:59.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that can create better reforms in the future, 00:17:59.467 --> 00:18:01.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% but the reality is, Proposition 1B didn't appear 00:18:01.934 --> 00:18:03.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% until Proposition 1A was already on the ballot 00:18:03.767 --> 00:18:06.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because, as I said, there's many different forms 00:18:06.300 --> 00:18:09.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of what the council proposed, and they kind of picked the one 00:18:09.901 --> 00:18:11.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that they could slap on in two days, 00:18:11.901 --> 00:18:13.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which doesn't have the advantages, 00:18:13.367 --> 00:18:15.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and we haven't had the chance to scrutinize it. 00:18:15.067 --> 00:18:16.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And that's why I like a national voting reform. 00:18:16.467 --> 00:18:17.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I like open primaries. 00:18:17.734 --> 00:18:19.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I wrote a letter to the council opposing it, 00:18:19.033 --> 00:18:20.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% saying this was not good democracy. 00:18:20.934 --> 00:18:23.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Jazmine, some thought about this? 00:18:23.067 --> 00:18:24.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What Logan's bringing up with regard to 00:18:24.767 --> 00:18:27.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% how the council did this and this idea of the work 00:18:27.834 --> 00:18:29.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you've been doing in Olympia, too? 00:18:29.767 --> 00:18:32.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -When we have a tested and proven system 00:18:32.901 --> 00:18:34.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that's been showing up all over -- 00:18:34.634 --> 00:18:39.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and there's different versions, the Portland version, 00:18:39.067 --> 00:18:42.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it will be different than the Portland, Maine version, 00:18:42.968 --> 00:18:45.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% will be different from the Alaska version. 00:18:45.267 --> 00:18:48.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we all have this evidence of how it works 00:18:48.667 --> 00:18:51.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and that it works better, and just reject the premise 00:18:51.734 --> 00:18:54.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that it's not good democracy 00:18:54.167 --> 00:18:57.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to let voters choose what they prefer. 00:18:57.367 --> 00:18:58.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Got it. 00:18:58.567 --> 00:19:01.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Are you concerned that if approves did pass, 00:19:01.300 --> 00:19:02.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if 1A did pass here, 00:19:02.701 --> 00:19:04.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that it would set up a non-conforming system? 00:19:04.501 --> 00:19:05.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Is that part of your concern? 00:19:05.834 --> 00:19:08.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Absolutely, and that it could pass 00:19:08.667 --> 00:19:11.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and then be facing a legal challenge 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:13.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for the Washington Voting Rights Act as well, 00:19:13.734 --> 00:19:16.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because while ranked choice voting 00:19:16.100 --> 00:19:19.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% has been tested against voting rights legislation, 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% approval voting has not, 00:19:22.234 --> 00:19:26.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and we've stood the test and stand up. 00:19:26.734 --> 00:19:30.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But with Washington's Voting Rights Act, then 00:19:30.334 --> 00:19:33.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we just don't know, 00:19:33.501 --> 00:19:35.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and there could be that legal challenge. 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And with Yakima, 00:19:37.300 --> 00:19:41.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then ranked choice voting was identified 00:19:41.067 --> 00:19:45.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as a potential remedy to Voting Rights Act violations. 00:19:45.868 --> 00:19:47.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Interesting. 00:19:47.334 --> 00:19:48.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Having representative democracy. 00:19:48.467 --> 00:19:49.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Thank you. This legal piece -- 00:19:49.601 --> 00:19:50.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I want to make sure we dive into it briefly. 00:19:50.767 --> 00:19:52.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Logan, your response to what Jazmine's saying? 00:19:52.267 --> 00:19:57.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, it's just pure kind of scare-mongering. 00:19:57.501 --> 00:20:01.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We've looked at the local laws. 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We used a legal firm to help us navigate that 00:20:04.467 --> 00:20:05.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to make sure it conformed with Washington state laws. 00:20:05.968 --> 00:20:07.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It absolutely does. 00:20:07.968 --> 00:20:10.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We looked at, you know, places across the country 00:20:10.100 --> 00:20:12.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that two other cities have adopted it, 00:20:12.334 --> 00:20:14.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it's been smooth sailing for years now. 00:20:14.300 --> 00:20:16.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And the reason it's completely smooth sailing for them 00:20:16.167 --> 00:20:18.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is because it's unambiguously legal. 00:20:18.968 --> 00:20:21.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% There's just no substance to it. 00:20:21.167 --> 00:20:24.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay, I'm going to move on to another topic here, if I may. 00:20:24.367 --> 00:20:26.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I wanted to raise a concern here about money. 00:20:26.167 --> 00:20:28.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And let me go to you here first, Logan, here. 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I talked to King County elections about this. 00:20:30.067 --> 00:20:32.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% They told me that no matter which option is chosen, 00:20:32.534 --> 00:20:34.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if voters to this do decide 00:20:34.067 --> 00:20:35.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to change our system here in Seattle, 00:20:35.701 --> 00:20:38.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it's going to cost a significant amount from process changes 00:20:38.968 --> 00:20:41.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to election worker training to extensive voter education. 00:20:41.901 --> 00:20:43.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We're going to have some state level costs too, apparently. 00:20:43.968 --> 00:20:45.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The secretary of state will have to 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% weigh in on voter intent rules, 00:20:48.067 --> 00:20:49.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ballot certifications, and some other issues, too. 00:20:49.267 --> 00:20:51.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I want to get an idea for this, Logan. 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% How much will it cost to implement approval voting? 00:20:53.334 --> 00:20:55.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What's your message to taxpayers on this? 00:20:55.033 --> 00:20:56.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah. 00:20:56.300 --> 00:21:00.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The message is that it costs essentially nothing. 00:21:00.367 --> 00:21:03.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Now, the King County does do its kind of educational piece, 00:21:03.667 --> 00:21:06.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which they do for every election cycle. 00:21:06.334 --> 00:21:09.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So there is that piece and all reforms will have that. 00:21:09.367 --> 00:21:12.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% If you look at the fiscal note on the Proposition 1B, 00:21:12.868 --> 00:21:16.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it costs an extra $4 million per election. 00:21:16.100 --> 00:21:18.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Proposition 1A, what we proposed, does not, 00:21:18.834 --> 00:21:20.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and the reason it does not is because the ballot design 00:21:20.467 --> 00:21:21.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% stays the same, the voting software 00:21:21.801 --> 00:21:24.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% stays the same, and none of that changes. 00:21:24.834 --> 00:21:27.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The ballot is physically smaller because again, 00:21:27.367 --> 00:21:29.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it only has -- for the last mayoral race, 00:21:29.133 --> 00:21:33.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for example, we only have 16 ovals instead of 80 or 256. 00:21:33.868 --> 00:21:37.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so, yeah, so our option is definitely 00:21:37.334 --> 00:21:41.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the low cost option versus $4 million an election, minimum, 00:21:41.534 --> 00:21:44.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is the fiscal note from that Proposition 1B. 00:21:44.868 --> 00:21:46.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Your thoughts on this, Jazmine? 00:21:46.868 --> 00:21:48.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% About how much this is going to cost people? 00:21:48.968 --> 00:21:52.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I mean, in Maine it cost $100,000 to implement. 00:21:52.834 --> 00:21:57.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And studies have shown that the cost 00:21:57.601 --> 00:22:00.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that's proposed for ranked choice voting 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:01.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just isn't the actual cost. 00:22:01.834 --> 00:22:02.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It's way higher. 00:22:02.868 --> 00:22:06.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Like, one jurisdiction that enacted it, 00:22:06.667 --> 00:22:08.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it was 1/14 of the cost. 00:22:08.901 --> 00:22:11.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I believe that was New York. 00:22:11.767 --> 00:22:15.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But a., overshoot and have it cost less. 00:22:15.834 --> 00:22:22.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% B., it wouldn't necessarily have 256 ovals. 00:22:22.968 --> 00:22:24.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It would have five. 00:22:24.667 --> 00:22:30.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% The voting vendor that we use in King County already 00:22:30.868 --> 00:22:33.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is able to have ranked choice voting. 00:22:33.734 --> 00:22:36.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It would simply be the software 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:39.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and the voter education piece on both ends 00:22:39.100 --> 00:22:45.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% of what we need to upgrade the system and fix it. 00:22:45.334 --> 00:22:46.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. Thank you. 00:22:46.834 --> 00:22:49.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And Logan, just another quick money question here. 00:22:49.501 --> 00:22:51.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Talk to me about the funding for the campaign 00:22:51.267 --> 00:22:52.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for Seattle Approves. 00:22:52.467 --> 00:22:53.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I know some people have raised some questions 00:22:53.968 --> 00:22:55.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about where these dollars are coming from. 00:22:55.467 --> 00:22:56.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What do you want to say about that? 00:22:56.734 --> 00:23:00.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I mean, we started with the premise -- 00:23:00.667 --> 00:23:03.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we looked around the country and we found a voting system 00:23:03.534 --> 00:23:07.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that looked amazing, that folks were championing. 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Then we did polling in Seattle and we went to voters. 00:23:11.100 --> 00:23:13.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We just said, "Hey, this is what it is. 00:23:13.534 --> 00:23:16.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% This is how it works. Would you like it?" 00:23:16.834 --> 00:23:19.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And polling came back, 00:23:19.367 --> 00:23:24.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% our first poll came back, 72% of voters supported 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:25.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% us moving to approval voting. 00:23:25.434 --> 00:23:27.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so we said, okay, great. 00:23:27.367 --> 00:23:29.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% This is a good system. The voters want it. 00:23:29.701 --> 00:23:32.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Let's go see if we can raise some money to do it. 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% So we went to national voting groups 00:23:34.534 --> 00:23:35.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that are interested in voting reform, 00:23:35.801 --> 00:23:37.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that are interested in strengthening democracy, 00:23:37.300 --> 00:23:39.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and we we wrote grants and we requested and we said, 00:23:39.901 --> 00:23:43.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "Hey, we have a system here that needs reform. 00:23:43.300 --> 00:23:46.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We have voters that want that reform. 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Will you help us strengthen democracy in Seattle?" 00:23:48.133 --> 00:23:51.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so a couple of different groups 00:23:51.067 --> 00:23:53.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% stood up and said, "Yeah, we'll help you with that." 00:23:53.133 --> 00:23:54.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so that's how that came to be. 00:23:54.767 --> 00:23:58.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we beat out other cities also seeking those grants, 00:23:58.133 --> 00:23:59.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because we were able to demonstrate 00:23:59.601 --> 00:24:01.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Seattle voters wanted it. 00:24:01.133 --> 00:24:03.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Thank you. Some thoughts about how these campaigns are funding, 00:24:03.167 --> 00:24:04.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% how your campaign is funded, 00:24:04.868 --> 00:24:06.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% if you want to talk about that, please? 00:24:06.968 --> 00:24:09.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Who are the supporters, I guess, of RCV? 00:24:09.667 --> 00:24:11.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -There's a lot of organizations that, again, 00:24:11.534 --> 00:24:13.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% have already been doing the work, 00:24:13.067 --> 00:24:18.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that are advocating for ranked choice voting. 00:24:18.267 --> 00:24:22.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We don't have a big think tank that's dumping a lot of money 00:24:22.734 --> 00:24:25.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in from out of state, but we are just 00:24:25.667 --> 00:24:28.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% community organizers with community support 00:24:28.467 --> 00:24:31.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that are talking about the issues. 00:24:31.701 --> 00:24:34.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% We've got Washington Community Alliance, 00:24:34.601 --> 00:24:36.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Washington for Equitable Representation, 00:24:36.801 --> 00:24:39.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Northwest Progressive Institute, 00:24:39.534 --> 00:24:43.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% the Washington Bus in support of Ranked Choice Voting. 00:24:43.167 --> 00:24:44.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Got it. 00:24:44.234 --> 00:24:45.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Briefly, some of the different people 00:24:45.434 --> 00:24:46.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% that support your campaign, please? 00:24:46.868 --> 00:24:49.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, we have the Equal Vote Coalition, 00:24:49.367 --> 00:24:51.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Seattle Indivisible, 00:24:51.300 --> 00:24:52.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Open Primaries also supported, 00:24:52.868 --> 00:24:54.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% relative to the two propositions, 00:24:54.534 --> 00:24:55.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% our proposition. 00:24:55.901 --> 00:24:57.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Thank you. I wanted to make sure I covered that piece. 00:24:57.567 --> 00:24:58.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Here's a big question. 00:24:58.701 --> 00:25:00.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And Jazmine, maybe I can start with you here. 00:25:00.434 --> 00:25:02.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I've talked to advocates on both sides of this issue, 00:25:02.434 --> 00:25:05.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and they've told me either choice here, 1A or 1B, 00:25:05.467 --> 00:25:07.200 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% would be a much welcome change, 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:08.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% as opposed to our current system here. 00:25:08.534 --> 00:25:10.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But from what I've seen in the research, 00:25:10.367 --> 00:25:11.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Seattle's in a bit of a unique system 00:25:11.968 --> 00:25:14.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% where both systems are on the ballot this fall. 00:25:14.567 --> 00:25:16.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Are you concerned that with all the campaigning 00:25:16.234 --> 00:25:18.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% going on between approval voting and ranked choice voting, 00:25:18.801 --> 00:25:20.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% voters might get overwhelmed, a little too confused 00:25:20.767 --> 00:25:22.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and say no to both options? 00:25:22.234 --> 00:25:23.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -I'm not necessarily worried about that, 00:25:23.968 --> 00:25:27.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just because what I hear from community members 00:25:27.334 --> 00:25:31.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% is that folks are really concerned about our elections, 00:25:31.167 --> 00:25:34.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and recognize that there needs to be a change. 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:36.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And so when posed with that first question, 00:25:36.968 --> 00:25:40.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% top of the ballot almost, it is like, yeah, 00:25:40.367 --> 00:25:42.167 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% our elections do need to change. 00:25:42.167 --> 00:25:46.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. -With all of the conversations 00:25:46.267 --> 00:25:49.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about ranked choice voting, 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:51.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% whether that's at the state level, 00:25:51.367 --> 00:25:55.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% at King County level and across the nation, 00:25:55.434 --> 00:25:59.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% then I think that it's a really easy choice. 00:25:59.901 --> 00:26:01.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay. We'll get into a closing statement 00:26:01.767 --> 00:26:03.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in just a minute there, but I did want to talk about 00:26:03.701 --> 00:26:04.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% this confusion question. 00:26:04.968 --> 00:26:06.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Do you have concerns about that? 00:26:06.334 --> 00:26:09.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Oh, yeah, for sure. I think there's a real risk there. 00:26:09.100 --> 00:26:14.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I hope folks will still support Proposition 1A. 00:26:14.334 --> 00:26:16.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% You know, we could spend a whole hour on 00:26:16.133 --> 00:26:18.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% just one of the two voting systems 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and still have questions, 00:26:19.968 --> 00:26:22.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and so it's really important to think these things through, 00:26:22.067 --> 00:26:25.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because this is our democracy online, right? 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:28.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And I think it's telling that 00:26:28.567 --> 00:26:31.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% when the council passed their alternative, 00:26:31.267 --> 00:26:35.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% three of the council members said essentially, 00:26:35.467 --> 00:26:37.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% "I don't want either to pass" or "I question 00:26:37.434 --> 00:26:39.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% whether we need this at all," 00:26:39.501 --> 00:26:41.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% which I think to your point about making it harder 00:26:41.467 --> 00:26:44.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to make that decision, is definitely troubling. 00:26:44.300 --> 00:26:46.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, Seattle is going to be looking to its leaders on this 00:26:46.367 --> 00:26:48.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% for some guidance, and we'll see what happens there. 00:26:48.300 --> 00:26:49.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It is time to wrap up. 00:26:49.601 --> 00:26:51.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And if we can keep this brief, that would be great. 00:26:51.300 --> 00:26:54.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% But Logan, some final thoughts, your final word to voters 00:26:54.834 --> 00:26:56.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about what you want them to understand 00:26:56.434 --> 00:26:59.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about Prop 1 and specifically Prop 1A. 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Yeah, I think the thing about Prop 1A is, 00:27:02.100 --> 00:27:05.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% it delivers the most representative voting system 00:27:05.934 --> 00:27:08.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% we can have within our current election rules. 00:27:08.367 --> 00:27:10.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It keeps things simple. 00:27:10.234 --> 00:27:14.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It does not leave any voters behind in the service of trying 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.300 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% to make the elections more representative, 00:27:16.300 --> 00:27:19.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and it does so cost effectively, and I think those are key. 00:27:19.734 --> 00:27:22.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It's key to keep things straightforward 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:23.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% so everyone understands what's going on. 00:27:23.467 --> 00:27:24.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Got it. 00:27:24.901 --> 00:27:26.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Jazmine, some final thoughts here for people watching this? 00:27:26.734 --> 00:27:30.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Yeah, I am really excited to support Proposition 1B, 00:27:30.701 --> 00:27:31.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ranked choice voting, 00:27:31.834 --> 00:27:33.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% because it allows for that voter preference. 00:27:33.901 --> 00:27:35.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It allows for us to have 00:27:35.834 --> 00:27:37.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% our most representative democracy 00:27:37.868 --> 00:27:40.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and have more representation along the lines. 00:27:40.701 --> 00:27:45.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% It keeps things simple for future jurisdictional changes 00:27:45.501 --> 00:27:48.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% with King County and the state, 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and I'm really excited that we can have better elections 00:27:52.334 --> 00:27:54.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in a really simple and effective way 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.434 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% and join the rest of the world 00:27:55.434 --> 00:27:57.534 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% in embracing ranked choice voting. 00:27:57.534 --> 00:27:59.400 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Okay, thank you both for this input here. 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.267 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And we will be right back. 00:28:04.901 --> 00:28:06.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% What are people saying on social media 00:28:06.901 --> 00:28:09.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about ranked choice voting and approval voting? 00:28:09.634 --> 00:28:12.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% One group writes, "With approval voting, 00:28:12.100 --> 00:28:14.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% you have the power to fully express your opinion 00:28:14.868 --> 00:28:17.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% about every candidate on the ballot. 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% No more limiting your voice." 00:28:18.834 --> 00:28:21.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Another says, "In a ranked choice voting, 00:28:21.701 --> 00:28:24.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% candidates need to think twice before going negative. 00:28:24.667 --> 00:28:27.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Niceness is a good electoral strategy!" 00:28:27.601 --> 00:28:29.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -We'd like to know what you think. 00:28:29.634 --> 00:28:32.934 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Send us an email at contact@seattlechannel.org, 00:28:32.934 --> 00:28:37.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% or find us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. 00:28:37.234 --> 00:28:39.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% -Coming up next week, the race to represent 00:28:39.601 --> 00:28:43.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Seattle's 37th Legislative District in Olympia -- 00:28:43.067 --> 00:28:44.834 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% Chipalo Street and Emijah Smith 00:28:44.834 --> 00:28:47.033 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% are in a close race for the open seat 00:28:47.033 --> 00:28:50.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% vacated by Representative Kirsten Harris-Talley. 00:28:50.100 --> 00:28:51.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% And they'll join us right here to debate 00:28:51.968 --> 00:28:53.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% why they should win your vote. 00:28:53.767 --> 00:28:55.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% That's on the next "City Inside Out." 00:28:55.968 --> 00:28:57.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% I hope you join us. 00:28:57.801 --> 00:29:05.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:29:05.667 --> 00:29:13.501 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:29:13.501 --> 00:29:21.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪ 00:29:21.334 --> 00:29:29.133 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90% ♪♪