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-If somebody committed
a crime against me

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or somebody I cared about,

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I would expect them
to be held accountable.

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-We haven't been soft on crime,

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we've been smart on crime.

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-I've decided not to
seek re-election.

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-King county's top prosecutor
is retiring, after four terms.

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And voters will judge
if the open seat

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should go to Leesa Manion,
his Chief of Staff,

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or Jim Ferrell,
the Mayor of Federal Way.

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-If I won,
I would be the first woman

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and the first person of color
to hold this seat.

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-I would take the office
in a different direction.

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-In a county with growing
public safety concerns

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and a backlog of court cases,
the two candidates disagree

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on the offices approach
to diversion programs.

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How will they solve
these challenges?

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-I believe in second chances,
but not revolving doors.

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-Both candidates weigh in.

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-I've seen the data and the
data shows us that it works.

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-The race to become the next
King County Prosecutor,

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next on City Inside Out.

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-Welcome to this edition of
City Inside Out.

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I'm your host, Brian Callanan.

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If you don't know
who you're voting for

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in the face of King County
Prosecutor, you're not alone.

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A poll in August showed
that 84% of the respondents,

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were not sure if they'd pick

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the prosecutors current
chief of staff,

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Leesa Manion or former Center
Deputy Prosecutor, Jim Ferrell,

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whose currently the mayor
of Federal Way.

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Ferrell and Manion have
very different positions

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on the county's use
of restorative justice programs,

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the political endorsement
of police unions

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and other issues too.

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This week, we're allowing
both candidates

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to make their case
so you can make the ruling on

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who gets the job of King
County Prosecutor this fall.

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The two candidates
for King County Prosecutor,

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might sound very much alike.

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-King County's at a tipping
point regarding public safety.

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-Public safety is
my number one priority.

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-But look closer at this race
and you will see,

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the two have
some stark differences.

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-Yeah, we do.

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-Leese Manion is current
the Chief of Staff

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for King County Prosecutor,
Dan Satterberg,

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and could be the first woman
and person of color

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to hold the office.

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She grew up in a biracial
family where she says,

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she dealt with discrimination
from a very early age.

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-I know firsthand what happens
when someone is marginalized

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and there's no one
to speak up for them.

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-Manion, as of early September,

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has raised more than $217,000
for her campaign

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and is endorsed by
Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell,

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former Governor Gary Locke,

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County Executive
Dow Constantine,

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and the Alliance
for Gun Responsibility.

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She formed
a public integrity unit

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to review officer
involved shootings

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and other uses of force cases

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and has rejected
police union support.

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-I intentionally declined

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to seek the endorsement
of any police guilds,

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because I believe that
the review of those cases

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does not appear to be fair
and unbiased,

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if I'm endorsed
by police unions.

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-I think this program bites

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off a little more
than it can chew.

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-Despite some resistance
from a county council member

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and her opponent,

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Manion has maintained
her support

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for the county's Restorative
Community Pathway's Project,

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which allows the prosecutor
to refer some juvenile

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offenders into a community led,
diversion program,

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instead of filing
criminal charges.

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-We haven't been soft on crime,

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we've been smart on crime.

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Twenty seven years
of proven leadership.

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-Manion, whose office
is dealing with a major backlog

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from criminal
from the pandemic,

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says she'll collaborate
with a network of partners

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to build a fair,
transparent justice system

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and keep all
of King County safe.

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-I have built strong ties
our BIPOC

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and our business communities

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and I would lean on
all of those relationships

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and invite our BIPOC
and business communities

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to the table,
to craft solutions with us.

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-I've handled hundreds
of jury trials.

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-Jim Ferrell, a former
Senior Deputy Prosecutor

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for the county and current Mayor
of Federal Way,

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came in second
to Dan Satterberg,

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when this job
was appointed in 2007.

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In 2022 Ferrell wants
to get tough on criminals,

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especially repeat offenders.

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-If somebody committed
a crime against me

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or somebody I cared about,

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I would expect them
to be held accountable.

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-Ferrell has raised more
than $219,000

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for his campaign
as of early September.

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He's endorsed
by Congressmen Adam Smith,

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State Representative Amy Walen,

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fifteen mayors
across King County

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and despite
his opponents criticism,

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the King County and Seattle
Police Officers' Guilds.

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-I'm very proud
of the place endorsement,

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they're a tough group
and they're a discernable group

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and I don't think it's a matter
of being too close,

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I think it's a matter of,
you know,

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about respect and trust.

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-Ferrell was one of
four King County mayors

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who asked
the prosecutor's office

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to delay its Juvenile
Restorative Justice

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program earlier this year.
He says, he supports diversion,

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but argues this project
lacks accountability

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and doesn't take offenses like
gun possession seriously enough.

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-That's not
a diversion program,

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that's a looking
the other way program

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and you just can't have that.
You have to have consequences.

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-Ferrell says the county's
COVID related backlog

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of nearly 5,000
criminal cases,

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should be assigned
to a specialized group

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of pro tem judges.

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He calls the situation,
a crisis,

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that the prosecutor's office
has failed to handle.

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-Right now, to my amazement
and astonishment,

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the current leadership
of the prosecutor's office,

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that includes my opponent,

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doesn't seem to have
a discernable plan

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or a sense of urgency.
People deserve to be safe.

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-It's a candidate supported
by peers outside Seattle,

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who wants to be
tougher on crime,

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up against an experienced

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insider and community
coalition builder.

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It's time for you
to render a decision

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for King County Prosecutor
at the ballot box this fall.

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-And we are joined
by both candidates

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for King County Prosecutor,
Leese Manion and Jim Ferrell,

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thank you very much
for being here.

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We had a coin flip
before the show

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and Jim you're going to go first
with an opening statement

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about why you're running
for this position,

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keep it to a minute please.

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-You bet, thank you
for having us and great

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to see you again Leesa.

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I'm running
for King County Prosecutor

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because I'm concerned about
the safety in our community

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and our countywide,

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I also think that I've got
a really unique résumé

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in order to do this job.

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I'm currently the Mayor
of Federal Way,

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a city of 100,000 residents,
600 employees,

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150 officers
and $100 million dollar budget.

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I also, before that, I was
a Senior Deputy Prosecutor,

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I was in the office
for 16 years

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and probably about
half of that I was a senior.

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Led the first ever domestic
violence court unit.

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I've tried hundreds of cases,
really, you know,

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not only did I try them,
I was in pretty much

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almost every unit in the office.
I did a lot of work

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and I was also president
of the union as well.

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So, you know,
I've got a particular vision.

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I think there are certain issues
that I'm very concerned

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about that I'm sure
that we'll talk about today,

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but I think I've got a vision
on how to approach the office

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and how to work collaboratively
with community partners,

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law enforcement cities and all
the people in the community

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to get a good job done

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and make sure we've got
a safer King County.

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-Thank you very much for that,
Leesa you're up next,

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why do you want this job?
Please keep it to a minute.

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-Okay, you know,
making our community safer,

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reducing property crime
and protecting victims,

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takes proven experience
and hands on leadership.

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The challenges facing
our community,

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the pandemic,
police shortages and resources,

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the opioid and housing crisis,
have challenged the vitality

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and the wellbeing
of our communities

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and businesses
in King County.

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I have dedicated
27 years of my career

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to public safety
and public service

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and as a career prosecutor,

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not only do I have experience
overseeing a workforce

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of nearly 600 employees

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and an annual budget
of $80 million dollars,

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I'm also the only candidate
that has built

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and implemented effective
crime prevention strategies.

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For me it's about ensuring
that our communities are safe

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and supported,

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it's about building strong
and collaborative coalitions

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and working to get results.

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We know that it's not going
to be finger pointing and blame

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that improves
our communities, right.

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It's going to be a focus
on innovation

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and on resources
and outcomes and for me,

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as your next
prosecuting attorney,

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I am committed to leading
on critical issues

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and I will hit
the ground running

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to build a fair
and transparent justice system

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that protects public safety and
that promotes racial justice,

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I would be honored
to have Seattle's vote.

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-Alright, thank you
very much for that.

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Jim, I'm going to jump back
to you and follow-up

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on a concern
that you've raised

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regarding a backlog
of criminal cases

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in the prosecutor's office
right now,

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caused by the pandemic.

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So last month
this number stood

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at about 4,700 cases
and I know both of you

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are tracking this issue
closely here,

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but Jim I wanted to get your
thoughts about this backlog,

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what you would do about it
if you were elected.

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-Well and I think, you know,

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everyone realizes
that COVID caused a pause

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and there's a backlog issue
because of the, you know,

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the closure of the courts
for that particular time.

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By concern is that,
that number is incredibly high

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and there needs to be
a very discernable plan

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about how to address that.
It's really a bandwidth issue,

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because you only have
a certain number of judges

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and you've got constraints
of speedy trial.

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What I've been talking about
and I think we need to do,

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is have -- we'll need to run
through a triage of these cases

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and really probably expand
that bandwidth

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with the use of pro tem judges,

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but I think there needs to be an
intentional, methodical approach

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to really get those cases down.

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And there's some
very serious cases in those.

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I know some efforts
are being made,

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but I think that we need
to come at it

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with much more intentionality.

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-Got it, Leesa,
why don't you respond

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maybe to what Jim's saying here,

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tell us what you're doing
about this backlog right now

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as Chief of Staff
for the King County Prosecutor,

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and some plans for the future
if you're elected.

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-Sure, first and foremost,

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it's really important
to understand

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that this is a backlog
of charged felony cases

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and the reason
the number is high,

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is because prosecutors

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worked every single day
of the pandemic.

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On average we filed between 20
and 30 violent crimes,

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sexual assault,
repeat property offenses,

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and gun crimes every day.
During this same time,

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the Washington
State Supreme Court

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issued an emergency order
that closed courts

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and as a result,
it really brought to a halt

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our systems ability
to resolve cases.

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Fortunately,
I've been hard at work

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to specifically address
this issue.

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I secured $14 million dollars
in could relief funding,

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some of that money we've used
to hire 120 new employees,

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including new 10 new victim
advocate

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positions to ensure that
a greater number of victims

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were receiving services
while cases are pending.

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We have also triaged these cases

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and our deputies are hard
at work resolving this

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and the backlog has been
decreasing steadily

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since March of 2021,

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and we are absolutely on target
to eliminate this backlog.

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-Okay.
Thank you both for that.

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Leesa, I am going to jump
back to you for a question

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about King County's Restorative
Community Pathways Project,

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which allows the prosecutor

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to place young offenders
in diversion programs,

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rather than file charges.

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I talked with Jim about it,
he called this a,

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Look the Other Way Program.
He said it lacks accountability,

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isn't tough enough on crimes
involving guns, for example.

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I wanted to make sure
you responded to that.

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-Well sure, you know,
I believe in diversion

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because I've seen the data

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and the data shows us
that it works.

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You know, police referrals
for juvenile crime

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have dropped by 90%
over the past two decades

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and for violent crime
that has decreased by 70%.

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Restorative Community Pathways

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is an effective
pretrial diversion program

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and crime reduction strategy.

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So in our state
we have mandatory diversion

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for misdemeanor juvenile crime

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and Restorative
Community Pathways

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not only meets King County's
legal obligations

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under our state law,

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it also addresses
some non-violent,

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first time felony matters.

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Restorative Community Pathways
has been approved

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and voted on by all nine
of our council members

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and it offers immediate
services to young people,

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to families and to harmed
parties in their homes,

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in their communities,
in their schools on nights

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and on weekends.

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And with all due respect
to our judges,

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I don't know a single judge
that does that.

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RCP is not a free pass,

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young people are expected
to work with community

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to rebuild and repair the harm
that they have caused

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and this also represents
an unprecedented investment

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in victim services.
Harmed parties get resources

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and have out of pocket
expenses covered.

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-Okay Jim, I know you have
some concerns about this,

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please let me know about them.

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-I do. Number one,
I think it's concerning

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that the cities
weren't brought in

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and the law enforcement agencies
brought in as partners on this

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to discuss
some of the metrics.

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Number two and probably
most importantly,

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the crimes on the list.

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We fully understand
that diversion programs

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are a central part
of the criminal justice system

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to help people course correct.
But the types of crimes on here,

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we're not talking
about the misdemeanors,

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it's the robberies, the felony
assaults, residential burglary,

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you know, whether it's a gun
offense or stealing a car,

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I just don't think
those are appropriate

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in which resolutions
include no judge,

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no case number, no check back,
no final report.

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I think actually,
RCP is imminently fixable,

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the people in those programs
that are doing those,

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are doing great work
and we really want to make sure

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that juveniles
who have made a wrong move

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and made a mistake,
can get back on track,

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but I think you've got to have
some accountability

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and transparency

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and make sure that we have
that check back.

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-Leese, can you answer
some of those concerns,

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no judge, no case numbers,
things like that,

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I just wanted to make sure that
we have back and forth on that.

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-Sure, sure.

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You know, the reason
there's no case number

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is because it's pre-filing.
The way you get a case number

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is that the charges are filed
and as a result,

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the young person
is automatically given

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a public defender who usually
tells the young person,

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"don't talk" and it takes
maybe eight months

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or 12 months more to resolve
that case

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and in that time,
very little happens.

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Restorative Community Pathways
was an immediate response

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and an appropriate response
to juvenile crime.

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-Okay, maybe 15 seconds

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if you want to
throw something in there.

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-Yeah, real quick,
that's you know,

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I hear that,
that the issue though is I think

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you could do a post-filing
diversion in which you know,

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people could take advantage
of this.

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The ultimate goal is
to get these cases

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dismissed if there's compliance.
Right now the problem is,

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we don't know if there's
compliance and so,

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I don't see where
there would be that much delay

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if you did a file,

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make sure that there's
a check back, a report back.

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-Okay, fair enough.

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Leesa if you want
to respond to that,

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I can let you or please.

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-Well, it would be a lot
more expensive

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because post-filing every
juvenile gets a public defender

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and there absolutely is
accountability and report back

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and we trust
the community nonprofits

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that we have partnered with,
to report back and to share.

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And of the 245 youth retained,

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who've been served, 90% report
that their behavior has changed.

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-Okay, thank you.

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I am going to move on
if we could from that,

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and Leesa let me
jump back to you here.

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Seattle in King County
as we all know,

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have had a recent spike
in gun violence

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and I wanted
to touch on this.

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In Seattle specifically,
shots fired cases up 75%

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in the first half of this year.

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What's the prosecutor's office
doing about this currently?

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What would you plans be
on gun violence for the future?

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-Sure, you know,
I am the only candidate

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that has received the full
endorsement of the Alliance

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for Gun Responsibility

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and it's because
I have experienced

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combating gun violence
from multiple approaches.

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First and foremost,
I work with law makers

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to ensure the passage
of important laws

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that ban high capacity magazines
and remove firearms

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from dangerous individuals.

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I was a key force in forming
our regional domestic violence

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firearm enforcement unit,

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the first of its kind approach
in the nation,

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to serving and enforcing extreme
risk protection orders

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and removing firearms
from domestic violence

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and other dangerous situations.

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I also secured the funding
for our Crime Strategies Unit,

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we track
and combat gun violence,

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but because we know
who the individuals are

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that are close to gun violence
and we can and we must,

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partner with police
and community to intervene

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before they become victims
and perpetrators of crime.

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We also know from this unit,

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that gun crime is up
in males up age 30 to 39,

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in the areas of domestic
violence and road rage.

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And we know that safe storage

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is a way of removing guns
from our community

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and reducing gun crime,

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and it's low cost
and cost effective.

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-Okay, thank you for that.
Jim, some thoughts on this,

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what's your take on this
uptick in gun crimes?

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What would you do about it
if you were elected prosecutor?

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-Well, you know, as mayor
we've done all kinds of things

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in the City of Federal Way,

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we are not only adding officers
but emphasis patrols

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and really focusing in
one high impact offenders,

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I think that same approach
needs to occur

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at the prosecutor's office in
regard to real intentionality.

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You know, the theme
of my campaign

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is I believe in second chances,
but not revolving doors

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and I think that we really need
to make sure

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that when we've got individuals

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that have shown a propensity
for violence

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and acted out,
that we hold them accountable

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and we make sure
that if they are a danger

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to the public that they're held.
In August, just last month,

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we had a record number
of homicide call outs

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for the King County
Prosecutors Office,

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in which the homicide unit
showed up and 28

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I believe it was.

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So there is a spike
and we need to make sure

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that we're figuring out
who are committing these crimes

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and really address
it systematically.

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-Okay, thank you.

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I want to move
onto another topic here

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and Jim,
I am going to head back to you,

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a question about
homelessness if we could.

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You're mayor of Federal Way,
camping on public property

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is prohibited there,

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would you like to see such a ban
extended county wide?

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Or what would your approach
to homelessness be

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if you're elected
as prosecutor?

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-Well, the prosecutor's office
really --

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you know, we handle the cases

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that are brought
in my law enforcement

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and so, you know,
really I think you know,

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in the city of Federal Way,

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if someone's on your private
property, they're trespassing,

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if someone's on a sidewalk
or a park,

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you know, they're not
allowed to camp there.

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So I think the laws really
are already on the books.

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We haven't actually passed
a special law

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in the city of Federal Way,

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we've just enforced
the laws that we have.

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And what I would say though is,

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is that, you know people
that are homeless

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are experiencing crisis
for a variety of reasons.

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We don't know whether it's
mental health, drug addiction,

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usually co-occurring,

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and all kinds of issues
that have made them homeless,

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so you need
to adopt it with --

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you need to approach things
with compassion

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and figure out how to get
people back on track.

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But addressing those core causes
I think is critically important.

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-Would it be a matter
of trying to enforce laws

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that are in effect in Seattle

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such that people
potentially are arrested

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for sleeping on the sidewalk?
What do you think?

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-I don't think it's kind
or proper

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to arrest anybody
for you know,

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I mean, we haven't
really arrested anybody

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in the city of Federal Way
for that, I think it's really --

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this is more street level
enforcement of just saying,

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"You can't be here"
and then enforce that.

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I don't think you can prosecute
your way out of homelessness,

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you've got to make sure
that you approach it

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with compassion and resources.
But also really,

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a clear line of where you can be
and where you can't be.

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-Okay. Leesa,
I wanted to ask you this too,

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where do you see
this intersection

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between homelessness
in the prosecutor's office,

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what role do you think
you might take

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if you're elected
in dealing with this crisis?

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-Sure, sure. You know,
I've heard my opponent say

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that it's not the job
of the prosecutor's office

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to solve homelessness
and as a leader

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I don't feel like
I can turn my back

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on one of the most critical
issues facing our community.

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As leaders, if we work together
to reduce homelessness,

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we will have the automatic
impact of reducing crime

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and improving
community wellbeing.

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We know that those who are
homeless are often vulnerable

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and disproportionate
victims of crime

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and that not everyone
experiencing homelessness

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has encountered our criminal
justice system.

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So I believe
in a housing first model.

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When we address basic needs
and people aren't worried

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about
where they're sleeping at night,

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they have the emotional
and mental capacity

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to engage in services
to get to root causes.

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Underlying trauma,
substance use disorder,

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behavioral health issues,
mental health issues,

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and I am committed to working
with all of our leaders

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throughout King County
to help solve homelessness.

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-I wanted to ask you,
your assessment

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of how the King County Regional
Homelessness Authority is doing?

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I know it's had a bit of bumps
to try to get on track here,

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your thoughts about that

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and what work you might do
with them in the future,

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what do you think
about that agency?

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-Well, you know, I don't know
the innerworkings

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of that relationship,

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but I will say that I think
what they're doing

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is they're finding their stride
and they are figuring out like,

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how do we as leaders
work together

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so that everyone has a role

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and everyone understands
what one another's role is,

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so that we can move forward
in an efficient

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and collaborative
way to get results.

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-Jim, your thoughts
on the RHA,

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I know there's some cities
who've had some issues with it.

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-We did, you're talking
to the person

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who really led
that rallying cry.

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I was concerned
about the creation

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of an entirely different,

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new and different government
to handle that

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and we've heard the current
mayor of Seattle address

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concerns about that very issue,
about you know,

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really a lack of city control
to be able to address that.

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I think that, you know,

00:20:09.033 --> 00:20:10.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
clearly we work in partnership
with each other,

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but it's important to understand
what our missions are.

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At the prosecutor's office,

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we either decide
to charge somebody

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or we don't and then
there's conditions of sentence.

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-Got it. Let me ask another
question to you if I could, Jim.

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When you hear the phrase
"defund the police"

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what goes through your head?

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-Well, you know,
I think it reflects frustration

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and a historical grievance with
really a lack of accountability.

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And I understand it,
I understand

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that people
have been historically,

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you know, concerned
about disproportionately,

00:20:42.601 --> 00:20:44.567 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
but ultimately I don't think
that's the way to go

00:20:44.567 --> 00:20:45.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
and what's happened in Seattle

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I think is
a great example of that.

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You know, I think
most people know that

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when they call the police,
they want to make sure

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that somebody is there
to respond.

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We saw earlier this year
that sexual assault cases

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were not getting
the required detectives,

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because of a lack
of law enforcement officers

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and Seattle place officers
I think lost 400 officers.

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So, you know,
because of either resignations

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or you know, budget,
I think people understand

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that you need to invest
in law enforcement,

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but I think accountability
is absolutely the key part.

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So, I think it was an idea
spurred in frustration,

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but I think ultimately
where its ending up is,

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a real focus on place
officer accountability.

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-It's a very simple phrase
but it's a very complex issue.

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Some thoughts about that?
What goes through your head

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when you hear the phrase
"defund the police"?

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-You know, for me,
that movement came out

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of decades and generations
of disproportionate treatment,

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racial disparities in
our criminal justice system

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and I agree that policing
is a common ground issue.

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When we are afraid
and call 911,

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we want a response
and we want police

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who know how to
de-escalate volatile situations.

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But we also want police
who abuse their authority

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or who engage biased
policing, off the force.

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And you know,
I support the reforms

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that were brought about
by I-940,

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it is why I formed
a public integrity unit

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and send the prosecutor's office
to look at officer

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involved shooting
and police use of force cases.

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And that's also why I have
intentionally declined

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to seek the endorsement
of any police unions,

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because the review
of those cases

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will not appear fair
or look fair or feel fair,

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if I am endorsed
by police guilds.

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-And I know this is a point
of contention between you two.

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Jim, you are endorsed

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by a few police unions,
some thoughts on that?

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I wanted to make sure
I asked you too.

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-Yeah, I'm really,
I'm proud of the endorsements

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of the King County place,

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the Seattle Police
Officers Guild,

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Bellevue, Kent, Federal Way,
Des Moines,

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King County
corrections officers.

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I think you can
accept their support

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and know that they are
supporting your campaign.

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But they still need to know that
I'll be an independent voice

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and if we, you know,
see officer misconduct

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we will address it,
you know forth rightly.

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And you know, so we receive
a lot of endorsements

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and support from a lot of people
in the community

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and I don't think
that renders us unable

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to render objective and fair
findings if misconduct occurs.

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-I'm going to try to squeeze
in another question here,

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prosecutor Dan Satterberg
has asked for an investigation

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to the missing text
of the former

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Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan
and other city leaders,

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back in 2020.
Jim, I'll start with you.

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How will you follow-up on this
investigation if you're elected?

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-Well I think it's
critically important

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that the prosecutor's office
doesn't handle negotiations,

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excuse me, investigations.

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They review investigations
that are brought to them.

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So what I can say
is that any investigation

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or completed investigation
that is brought to the office,

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we will thoroughly review
and make a determination.

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Not only is
the threshold question

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is there probably cause?

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But, does this meet
filing standards?

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Is this the right thing to do
under the circumstances?

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And we'll have to review that.

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-Okay.
Big issues here in Seattle,

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I thought I'd ask you
this one too, Leesa.

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-Right, you know, I think
public disclosure is like,

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so important.

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And as government
and as government leaders,

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we owe it to the communities
that we serve to be transparent,

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to be open,
to protect public records.

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I would have called for
that investigation sooner

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and when we receive it,

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we will give everything
a review.

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We will examine
all of the evidence

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and make a filing determination.

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-Got it, thank you
for engaging with that.

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We have about 30 seconds
where we could squeeze

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in that one piece
that we haven't covered,

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maybe something about yourself
or your campaign,

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that haven't made
a lot of headlines

00:24:16.767 --> 00:24:18.234 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
you want to let people
know about.

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Jim, can I start
with you on that?

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-You bet.
Actually, it's been a --

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you know, I can tell you
that this has been

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a great experience,

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there's many people in King
County, over two million people.

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I know that Leesa and I
have transversed the county

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and if anybody wants
to reach out to me

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or my campaign,
my website is jimferrell.org.

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And also, you know, I think
really the key issues are,

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it really feels like
while there are great people

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doing great work at the
King County prosecutor's office,

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I think we need to reset
some priorities

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and I've got the vision and
experience to be able to do it.

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-Thank you.
A closing statement

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coming in a minute,
but 30 seconds,

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maybe something
we haven't covered here

00:24:52.467 --> 00:24:54.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
you wanted to let people know
about yourself or your campaign?

00:24:54.901 --> 00:24:56.667 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
-Sure, I'm really proud
to be the candidate

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that can hit
the ground running.

00:24:57.834 --> 00:25:00.067 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
I'm really proud
of the 200 endorsements

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I've received from organizations
and leaders,

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including our mayor,
you know, Bruce Harrell.

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And I'm also really proud that
I have earned the endorsement

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of every single democratic
organization in King County

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and I'm a democrat in good
standing with our state party.

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-Okay, it is time
for that closing statement

00:25:17.067 --> 00:25:18.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
and I'm already hearing
little pieces of it,

00:25:18.634 --> 00:25:21.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
but I'd like for you to wrap up,
Jim you'll go first and Leesa,

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you'll get the last word.
Please.

00:25:23.167 --> 00:25:25.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
-Alright, thank you.
And thank you for this forum.

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You know,
I am a democrat as well,

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I'm endorsed by
my congressman Adam Smith,

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State Representative Amy Walen

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and several other
elected representatives,

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15 mayors across King County
represent a whole lot of people.

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Labor unions like LIUNA 242,
Iron Workers 86,

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the Seattle building trades
and many others.

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And so, I'm honored to have
their endorsements as well.

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As well as you know,
business organizations

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and people
throughout King County

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and I can tell you that,
this campaign is really about

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really resetting the priorities
of the prosecutor's office

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and making sure that
we have a safe county,

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a transparent county
prosecutor's office,

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and that we you know,
really focus on victims

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and making sure
that we get it right.

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-Okay, thank you
very much for that.

00:26:13.767 --> 00:26:15.000 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
I can give you about
a minute Leesa,

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to wrap up.
You have the last word.

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-Okay, alright, sure.

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You know, the residents
of King County

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deserve a prosecutor
who shares their values,

00:26:20.868 --> 00:26:23.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
whose 100% committed
to ensuring our communities

00:26:23.801 --> 00:26:25.734 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
are safe and supported

00:26:25.734 --> 00:26:28.100 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
and I'm the candidate
that can hit the ground running

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and I will also bring a sense of
urgency that has been lacking,

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in solving the challenges
facing our community.

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I'm proud of the endorsements
that I've received,

00:26:36.667 --> 00:26:39.467 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
because it means people know
not only about my integrity,

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my deep level of experience,

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but also my record
for getting things done.

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I have partnered with community
to reduce juvenile crime

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to all-time lows
and here are a couple of ways

00:26:48.901 --> 00:26:51.901 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
that I have delivered
for public service.

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I have partnered
with business leaders

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and city attorneys
to reduce property crime

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and retail theft
in downtown Seattle

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and other parts
of King County.

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And I have also secured funding
to track

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and combat gun violence.

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-Thank you very much for that.
-Thank you.

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-That's all the time
we have for now.

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I appreciate the input
from both of you

00:27:09.701 --> 00:27:11.601 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
and we will be right back.

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What are people say
on social media

00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.367 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
about the King County
Prosecutors race?

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One person writes,

00:27:20.667 --> 00:27:23.334 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
"We need Leesa Manion
as King County Prosecutor.

00:27:23.334 --> 00:27:24.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
She's extremely qualified,

00:27:24.968 --> 00:27:26.968 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
she is the current
deputy prosecutor,

00:27:26.968 --> 00:27:28.634 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
she supports restorative justice

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and ending the school
to prison pipeline."

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Another says, "Tell your friends
family and neighbors

00:27:33.567 --> 00:27:34.767 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
to vote
for Jim Ferrell,

00:27:34.767 --> 00:27:36.868 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
for King County Prosecutor
this fall,

00:27:36.868 --> 00:27:38.701 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
in order to help
save King County

00:27:38.701 --> 00:27:40.801 align:middle line:00% position:50% size:90%
from the out
of control crime."

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Coming up next week,

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Seattle voters will get
to decide this fall

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if they like the current system
for electing city hall leaders,

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or if they want a new approach.
Seattle Proposition one,

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presents two alternate
voting systems.

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Approval voting
and ranked choice voting.

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We'll break it all down
on the next See Inside Out.

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I hope you joining us.

