>>> GOOD MORNING.
THE MARCH 17th, 2021 MEETING
WILL COME TO ORDER.
THE TIME IS 9:30.
I AM PEDERSEN, CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ?
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> PRESENT.
>> THREE ARE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU.
I AM EXPECTING THE OTHER
COUNCIL MEMBERS TO JOIN
SHORTLY.
I WILL LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHEN
THEY ARE HERE.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION,
TODAY'S PROPOSED AGENDA WILL BE
ADDUCTED.
I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE LAST
COUNCIL BILL THAT DEALS WITH
THE SURVEILLANCE ON POLICE
TECHNOLOGY IS LIKELY TO BE
DISCUSSED TODAY, BUT HELD UNTIL
THE APRIL 7th COMMITTEE MEETING.
TO GIVE FOLKS MORE TIME ON THAT.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ
IS PRESENT.
GOOD MORNING.
SO, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION TO
TODAY'S PROPOSED AGENDA,
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PATCH AGENDA
TODAY, WE WILL SIT ON THE CITY
LIGHT PARTIAL EASEMENT TO THE
CITY OF KIRKLAND, WE HAD A
REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING LAST
WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO AT THE
LAST COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION AND
VOTE ON THE LIGHTS ORDINANCE,
THE SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION WILL PROVIDE AN
UPDATE ON THE BRIDGE, AND A
PROPOSAL FOR THE BRIDGE.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO
REVIEW THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORTS.
THIS PARTICULAR GROUP, TWO OF
THOSE REPORTS ARE FROM SEATTLE
CITY LIGHTS, SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT AND SEATTLE PD.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD IS HERE
AND ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AT
THIS TIME.
NOW WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE
REMOTE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS JUST ONE
SPEAKER AT THIS TIME.
I ASK THAT EVERYONE BE PATIENT
AS WE OPERATE THE ONLINE SYSTEM
AND CONTINUALLY LOOKING FOR
WAYS TO FINE-TUNE THE PROCESS
OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
IT REMAINS STRONG FOR THE CITY
COUNCIL TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT
HOWEVER WE RESERVE THE RIGHT --
FOR ALLOWING THE MEETINGS TO BE
CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THE
MANNER TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR
THIS PERIOD IS UP TO 20 MINUTES
IN EACH SPEAKER GIVEN TWO
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I WILL CALL ON THE SPEAKERS TWO
AT A TIME AND IN THE ORDER IN
WHICH REGISTERED ON THE
COUNCIL'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU HAVE NOT YET REGISTERED
TO SPEAK BUT WOULD LIKE TO YOU
CAN SIGN UP BEFORE THE END OF
THE COUNCIL TO GO TO THE
WEBSITE.
THE PUBLIC LINK IS ALSO LISTED
ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
ONCE I WILL CALL THE NAME THE
MICROPHONE WILL BE UNMUTE IT
AND THEN THE PROMPT THAT YOU
HAVE BEEN UNMUTED, THEN PRESS
STAR 6 TO BEGIN SPEAKING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE
ITEM YOU ARE ADDRESSING AND AS
A REMINDER IT SHOULD BE RELATED
TO TODAY'S AGENDA.
SPEAKERS WILL HILL A TIME WHEN
THERE ARE 10 SECONDS LEFT OF
THE ALLOCATED TIME AND WANT TO
HEAR THE TIME WE ASK YOU TO
WRAP UP PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF SPEAKERS DO NOT END THERE
PUBLIC COMMENT THAN THE I PHONE
WILL BE MUTED TO ALLOW US TO
CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
COMMENT, WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE
DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE AND IF
YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE FOLLOWING
THE MEETING, PLEASE DO SO VIA
SEATTLE CHANNEL OR THE
LISTENING OPTIONS LISTED ON THE
AGENDA.
THE REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD FOR THE MEETING IS NOW
OPEN.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST
SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO PRESS STAR 6
BEFORE SPEAKING.
GO AHEAD.
WE HAVE SENT DSPS, GO AHEAD,
CYNTHIA.
>> HELLO.
I AM CYNTHIA, INDEPENDENT
SECURITY AND DISTRICT 6
RESIDENT.
MY COMMENTS ARE ON THE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. I
SENT WRITTEN COMMENTS TO ALL
THREE OF YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE
AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS
, 99.995% TO 99.75% OF LICENSE
PLATES SCANNED BY SPD ARE JUST
ON INDIVIDUALS GOING ABOUT
THEIR DAY BUT SPD RETAINS THE
DATA FOR 90 DAYS.
MASS LOCATION SURVEILLANCE.
LOCATION DATA CAN REVEAL A LOT
OF INFORMATION ABOUT AN
INDIVIDUAL, WHO THEY LIVE WITH,
WHERE THEY WERE, AND WHERE THEY
WORSHIP.
SPD HAS FRAMED THE DATA
RETENTION IS DUE TO STATE LAW
BUT THERE IS NO LAW THAT
REQUIRES RETENTION OF INNOCENT
PEOPLE, NOR IS SUCH NEEDED.
NEW HAMPSHIRE RESTRICTS THE
DATA TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS
THE DATA PLATE HAS A HIT.
ANY CLAIMS BY SPD HIS FEAR
MONGERING AND CITY COUNCIL
SHOULD REQUIRE THAT SPD NOT
RETAIN DATA FOR NON-HITS.
COP LOGIC, HOSTED ON A MERGER
OF THREE BROKERS.
LEXIS-NEXIS AND CHOICE POINT.
GARNERED SO MUCH PUBLIC
BACKLASH FOR INVASION OF
PRIVACY THAT FEDERAL FUNDING
WAS CUT.
EACH BROKER HAS A LARGE
SECURITY BREACH AND SOMETIMES
MORE THAN ONCE.
INCLUDED WHAT WAS THE LARGEST
FTC SETTLEMENT IN THE HISTORY
OF TIME.
ONE BREACH WAS NOT EVEN
DISCOVERED BY LEXIS-NEXIS BUT
BY THE SECURITY COMMITTEE BY THE
SHOP THAT WAS SELLING THE DATA.
CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REQUIRE ON
PLEMONS DEPLOYMENT.
THIS TURNS REVIT SECURITY FIRMS
INTO PSEUDO-COPS AND REINFORCES
RACIAL PROFILING.
IT SHOULD BE REMOVED AND
DISBANDED.
LEASEE MY EMAIL FOR FULL
DETAILS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
I AM DOUBLE CHECKING THE
SPEAKER LIST AND I DON'T SEE
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.
CAN I.T.
CONFIRM THAT BEFORE WE CLOSE
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD?
>> NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT
REGISTRANTS.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES THE LIST OF
SPEAKERS FROM GENERAL PUBLIC
AND NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE
FIRST LEGISLATIVE ITEM ON THE
AGENDA.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
SHORT TITLE OF AGENDA IN THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 1, CB 120008.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT;
AUTHORIZING THE GENERAL MANAGER
AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER TO
RELEASE A PORTION OF AN
EXISTING TRANSMISSION CORRIDOR
EASEMENT TO THE CITY OF
KIRKLAND; AND ACCEPTING THE
PAYMENT OF FAIR MARKET VALUE
FOR THE PARTIAL RELEASE OF
EASEMENT.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
YOU WILL RECOGNIZE US BECAUSE
WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
DISCUSSION ON THIS A COUPLE
WEEKS AGO.
THIS MEASURE FACILITATES
CONSTRUCTION OF A PEDESTRIAN
AND BICYCLE PATH ON THE EAST
SIDE RAIL TO TRAIL PROJECT
ALLOWS SEATTLE CITY LIGHT TO
HAVE THE EASEMENT IN KIRKLAND,
FOR THE FAIR MARKET VALUE
PAYMENT.
SO WE PROBABLY CAN GO THROUGH
THIS PRETTY QUICKLY.
I WILL GO AHEAD, AS USUAL,
ASKING THE CENTRAL STAFF IF
THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE
DEPARTMENT.
ERIC, GOOD MORNING.
>> I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD, WITH
HOW YOU FRAMED IT UP.
THE IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT
THE PUBLIC HEARING OCCURRED AND
COMING TO THE COMMITTEE IN
ROUTINE FASHION.
WITH THAT I WILL TURN OFF MY
MICROPHONE AND LET OTHER FOLKS
STEP UP.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, ERIC, FOR YOUR
REVIEW OF THE ITEM FOR ALL OF
US.
SO, GENERAL MANAGER DEBORA
SMITH IS WITH US WITH SOME OF
HER TEAMS.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A QUICK
COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN SEE IF
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE
COMMENT.
>> I DO NOT REALLY HAVE
ANYTHING TO ADD.
AND GREG IS HERE TODAY WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS AND
LICENSING GROUP.
HE IS ABLE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE
ABOUT THE EASEMENT IN FRONT OF
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYTHING TO
ASK, AGAIN FOR THE VIEWING
PUBLIC.
THIS ITEM WE HEARD A COUPLE
WEEKS AGO THOROUGHLY AND
DISGUSTED AT THAT TIME.
BUT HAPPY TO HEAR FROM FOLKS
NOW IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTION
OR COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON
THE ITEM.
ONE MOMENT, LET ME JUST GET MY
PARTICIPANTS.
OKAY.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE NO
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THIS FROM A
MONTH AGO.
IT IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S GOOD
WORK.
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY, MARK.
>> THANK YOU.
YES.
THE WORK THAT CITY LIGHT DID
WITH THE CITY OF KIRKLAND WAS
EXEMPLARY.
WE APPRECIATE IT AND IT LOOKS
LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, WITH NO
FURTHER QUESTIONS, I NOW MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THE CB 120008.
ITEM ONE ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> GREAT.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE
BILL.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
OKAY, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT CB 120008
BE APPROVED FOR FORWARDING TO
THE FULL CITY COUNCIL?
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE..
JAY INSLEE.
YES.
>> PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
>> GREAT THE MOTION CARRIES AND
THE COUNCIL BILL WILL BE SET
FOR APPROVAL FOR THE MARCH 22nd
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
FOLKS VIEWING CAN GO ONLINE TO
THE AGENDA AND LOOK AT THE
DRAWINGS, OF THIS PROJECT AND
YOU WILL BE READY TO HOP ON
YOUR BIKE SOON AND HEAD OVER TO
KIRKLAND.
BUT PLEASE COME BACK.
WILL THE KIRK PLEASE READ THE
SHORT TITLE OF THE NEXT AGENDA
ITEM IN THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM 2. CB 120015.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT; AMENDING
RATES, TERMS, AND CONDITIONS
FOR THE USE AND SALE OF
ELECTRICITY SUPPLIED BY THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT FOR 2021
AND 2022; AMENDING SECTIONS
21.49.030, 21.49.052,
21.49.055, 21.49.057,
21.49.058, AND 21.49.060 OF THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE; AND
RATIFYING AND CONFIRMING
CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS.
FOR BRIEFING DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT WE STILL HAVE
CITY LIGHT HERE TO DISCUSS THIS
AND I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE MORE
DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE.
AND ERIC McCONAGHY AS WELL.
I APPRECIATE BOTH SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT AND SEATTLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES, THE MUNICIPALLY
OWNED ENTERPRISE FOCUSING ON
AFFORDABILITY FOR CITY
RESIDENTS.
THE ORDINANCE BEFORE US TODAY I
BELIEVE BALANCES THE COMMITMENT
TO BALANCING THAT CUSTOMERS
WITH STABILITY, AND THE
ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ELECTRIC
BILLS, WHILE ENABLING TO
RECOVER FROM FINANCIAL IMPACTS
OF THE PANDEMIC OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF YEARS.
IN THE PRESENT FORM, IT WOULD
TAKE TWO ACTIONS.
ON APRIL 1st, IT WOULD USE THE
EXISTING RATE STABILIZATION
ACCOUNT SURCHARGE TO MAINTAIN A
BASE RATE.
THERE SHOULD BE NO IMPACT
CUSTOMER BILLS FOR 2021.
THE NEXT ITEM THAT THE BILL
DOES, IT DEALS WITH THE 2022
RATE AND KEEPS THE PROMISE MADE
IN 2018 TO INCREASE RATES OF
2022, I NOT MORE THAN 3.9%,
WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT IT IS
MUCH AS 1.5% MIGHT BE OFFSET BY
A LOWER PASS-THROUGH RATE
REDUCTION.
IN 2022 IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE
RATE INCREASE WOULD BE AS LOW AS
2.4%.
I KNOW SOME OF US SHARE A VALID
CONCERN THAT WE WOULD LIKE A
BIT MORE TIME TO AFFIRM THAT
2022 RATE INFORMATION.
EVEN THOUGH THE ACTION FOR 2022
WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OR
BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS PLAN
APPROVED IN 2018, IT WOULD BE
IDEAL TO GIVE EVERYBODY MORE
TIME TO ACCLIMATE TO THE
INFORMATION.
I, AT THE VERY LEAST WOULD BE
OPEN TO HAVING THIS DELAYED TO
THE APRIL 29th FULL CITY
COUNCIL, RATHER THAN GOING TO
APRIL 22nd FULL COUNCIL.
WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AS WE HEAR
MORE ABOUT THE ITEM.
>> DID YOU MEAN MARCH 22nd?
AND MARCH 29?
>> YES.
MARCH 22nd, MARCH 29th.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DATA IN A█
MINUTE AND I AM REALLY PLEASED
THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT HAS
BEEN TAKING ACTION THAT WILL
NOTE THE INCREASE IN CUSTOMER
BILLS THIS YEAR.
AND TO KEEP THE PROMISE FOR
NEXT YEAR.
55, I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN
LOOKING AT THIS THOROUGHLY FOR
ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
FEEL FREE TO LET US KNOW YOUR
THOUGHTS ON THIS AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR THOROUGH MEMO ON THIS.
THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM CITY
LIGHT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST BY ADDING A LITTLE BIT OF
CONTEXT AND FRAMING, TO
REITERATE, CHAIR, FORGIVE ME
FOR REITERATING A LITTLE BIT
BUT TO BE CLEAR, THE BILL WOULD
SET THE RATES IN THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE FOR SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT EFFECTIVE APRIL 1 OF
2021, THAT IS A 3% CHANGE TO
WHAT THE RATE IS NOW.
IT WILL ALSO SET THE RATES
BEGINNING JANUARY 1 OF 2022.
OF 3.9%.
THAT IS ACROSS ALL OF THE RATE
SCHEDULES, THERE IS A TABLE
THAT SHOWS RATES FOR EACH CLASS
OF CUSTOMER AT THE CITY LIGHT
SERVICE.
THESE RATES, AS YOU MENTIONED,
IN THE BILL, ARE SLIGHTLY LOWER
FOR 2021 AND THEN THE SAME FOR
2022 AS THE RATES THAT THE
COUNCIL ENDORSED WHEN THE
COUNCIL ADOPTED CITY LIGHTS
2019 THROUGH 2021 STRATEGIC
PLAN.
AND AS YOU MENTIONED THE
PROPOSAL WOULD INCREASE THE
2021 RATES AT THE SAME TIME AS
CITY LIGHT WILL BE REMOVING THE
CURRENT RATES STABILIZATION
ACCOUNT SURCHARGES FROM
CUSTOMER'S BILLS.
THE RATE STABILIZATION ACCOUNT
IS A WAY FOR CITY LIGHT TO HAVE
A BUFFER AGAINST CHANGES IN
WHOLESALE REVENUE.
WHOLESALE REVENUE IS THE POWER
úTHAT IS NOT SOLD TO RETAIL
CUSTOMERS, FOLKS LIKE MYSELF,
WHO LIVE WITHIN THE SERVICE
AREA FOR CITY LIGHT TO PURCHASE
POWER.
IT IS POWER THAT IS SOLD TO
OTHER PROVIDERS, UTILITIES.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE,
REVENUE SOURCE FOR CITY LIGHT.
AND IT WAS PUT IN THE CODE A
COUPLE YEARS AGO TO OBSERVE
FLUCTUATIONS IN THAT.
WHEN THE RSA, THE RATE
STABILIZATION ACCOUNT DROPS
BELOW CERTAIN THRESHOLDS IN ITS
BALANCE, THE SURCHARGES
AUTOMATICALLY ARE PLACED ON THE
BILLS.
THAT IS AT CITY LIGHT TAKING
ACTION TO DO THAT.
AND CONVERSELY, WHEN THE
BALANCE TO THE RSA IS BIG
ENOUGH, THEN CITY LIGHT REMOVES
THE SURCHARGES AND COUNCIL DOES
NOT HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON
THIS.
IT IS ALL CALLED FOR AND
AUTHORIZED IN THE CITY CODE.
BECAUSE OF THE BALANCES IN THE
RSA CURRENTLY, CITY LIGHT
EXPECTS TO MOVE THE 3% SURCHARGE
FROM CUSTOMER'S BILLS, AS SOON
AS APRIL BILLING BASED ON
CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD AN
TIMING THAT IS SET IN THIS
PROPOSAL.
IN THIS COUNCIL BILL.
AND JUST TO REITERATE, THIS
DOES NOT -- SURCHARGE.
WITHOUT ANY ACTION THEN THE
CUSTOMER BILLS WOULD BE LOWER
WHEN THE SURCHARGES REMOVED.
ONCE AGAIN, THE PROPOSAL IS
CRAFTED TO RESULT IN NO NET
INCREASE OF OVERALL COST TO
CITY LIGHT CUSTOMERS.
IN 2021.
BY BALANCING THOSE TWO CHANGES.
STRATEGIC PLANNING, TYPICALLY,
COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER THE
ADOPTION OF NEW RETAIL RATES
ONLY AFTER ADOPTING A NEW PLAN
AND NEW PLANS FOR FUTURE YEARS.
HOWEVER, THE WIDESPREAD
DISRUPTION OF THE PANDEMIC LAST
YEAR INTERRUPTED THE EXPECTED
UPDATE TO THE STRATEGIC
PLANNING AND RATE PATH AND THE
ECONOMIC STRESSES DUE TO THE
PANDEMIC, THE EXECUTIVE AT CITY
LIGHT DID NOT SUBMIT AND THE
COUNCIL DID NOT TAKE UP ANY
RATESETTING FOR 2020.
THERE WAS A SIMILAR THING THAT
HAPPENED FOR SEATTLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES.
HOWEVER, CITY LIGHT DOES PLAN
TO DELIVER A 2022 THROUGH 2026
STRATEGIC PLAN TO COUNCIL, THIS
MAY.
AND WITH THAT, THE FRAMING
PIECES, I THINK I WILL STEP
ASIDE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, ERIC.
I APPRECIATE YOUR THOROUGH
ANALYSIS OF THIS AND YOUR MEMO
THAT IS POSTED ONLINE FOR
FOLKS.
AND LET'S HEAR FROM CITY LIGHT,
THEN WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
GENERAL MANAGER, SMITH,
TAKEAWAY.
>> ERIC, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
FEEL LIKE YOU DID MY JOB FOR
ME.
I AM DEBRA SMITH, GENERAL
MANAGER AND CEO ALTHOUGH TODAY
AND TODAY ONLY, YOU CAN CALL ME
DEBBIE, MY CHILDHOOD NAME AND I
AM IN FACT OF IRISH DISSENT.
SO, ONCE A YEAR YOU CAN CALL ME
DEBBIE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT I
AM ALWAYS, TRULY ERIC, YOU DID
A GREAT JOB ON REFRAMING.
FIRST OF ALL I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY THAT WE STAFF HAVE
HAD OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO,
TO RUN THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION
WITH SOME OF YOU AND SOME OF
YOUR STAFF MEMBERS AND IT HAS
BEEN REALLY HELPFUL.
WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO
YOU.
YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENT DECK
THEN YOU SAW LAST WEEK.
OR AT LEAST SOME PARTS WILL BE
DIFFERENT.
IF WE DID A READOUT.
AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK
BEHIND THE SCENES TO OFFER
BRIEFINGS TO OTHER COUNCIL
MEMBERS BOTH ON THIS COMMITTEE
AND/OR THE FULL COUNCIL.
HAPPY TO DO THAT AND TO WORK
WITH FOLKS THAT WANT ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT FOR ME AND
MANY OF YOU, THIS IS THE FIRST
TIME YOU HAVE ENGAGED CITY
LIGHT RATES.
I ACTUALLY JOINED THE CITY MID-
OCTOBER OF 2018, AND AS ERIC
MENTIONED, WE HAD A STRATEGIC
PLAN THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED THE
SUMMER BEFORE.
WHICH SET OUT A RATE PATH FOR
SIX YEARS.
BUT ALSO ADOPTED THROUGH THE
PROCESS, RATES THAT WENT INTO
EFFECT JANUARY 1 OF 19, AND
JANUARY 1 OF 20.
AND OF COURSE THE PLAN THAT WE
HAD COMPLETED, AND LARGELY WAS
COMPLETE LAST YEAR, BEFORE WE
PUT IT ON THE SHELF AND SAID WE
WILL WORK TO SUPPORT OUR
COMMUNITY AND THE BEST WAY THAT
WE CAN DO THAT IS TO STAY THE
COURSE AND HOLD RATES FLAT.
SO, WE HAD NO RATE ACTION THE
FIRST OF THIS YEAR.
AND AGAIN, THIS STRATEGY THAT
WE HAVE DEVELOPED IS IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE WE, AND YOU WILL SEE IN
OUR SLI, UNLIKE MANY CITY
DEPARTMENTS, OF COURSE WE ARE
NOT A GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT
BUT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A
SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN
REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH LOSS OF
LOAD.
WHICH YOU WILL SEE.
WILL START WITH THE FIRST BITE
OR TWO AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO
MY COLLEAGUES.
IF YOU COULD ADVANCE, THAT
WOULD BE GREAT.
AND WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT I
WILL MENTION THAT WE HAVE WITH
US, KIRSTY GRAINGER, SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT CFO, AND WE HAVE
MORE RUNNING THE SHOW AND CHRIS
RUFFINI IS HERE, THE FINANCE
DIRECTOR.
SO, MUCH OF WHAT YOU WILL HEAR
TODAY IS FROM KEIRSEY AND
CHRIS.
I WILL SKIP OVER THIS AND I
THINK THAT ERIC DID A GREAT
JOB.
THE INTENT HERE IS TO PROVIDE
BILLS BUT STABILITY TO
CUSTOMERS WHILE MAINTAINING
SERVICE LEVEL DURING COVID-19
RECOVERY.
AND ONE THING THAT YOU WILL
HEAR TODAY IS WE ARE UNCLEAR,
AS WE ALL ARE, ABOUT HOW THE
RECOVERY WILL HAPPEN AND HOW
AND OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME WE
WILL GAIN BACK THE LOAD WE LOST
DURING COVID-19.
SO, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO
MENTION, AGAIN, THE JANUARY 120
22, JANUARY 1, 2022, THE
PROPOSED INCREASE OF 3% WAS
PROPOSED IN THE LAST PLAN BY
COUNCIL.
WE EXPECT THE IMPACT TO
CUSTOMERS WOULD ACTUALLY BE
MORE LIKE 2.4%.
SO WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS AROUND
WHAT BONNEVILLE POWER
ADMINISTRATION WILL CHARGE US
FOR THE POWER WE PURCHASE FROM
THEM.
WHICH IS 30 TO 40% OF HOW WE
SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH A TWO
YEAR RATE CASE AND ARE
CURRENTLY IN THE RATE CASE
RIGHT NOW.
THE RATES FOR BONNEVILLE CHANGE
EVERY TWO YEARS, ON THE ODD
YEAR.
THEY ARE OCTOBER ONE, BECAUSE
THAT IS THE START OF THE
FEDERAL YEAR.
WE MAKE AN ASSUMPTION AROUND
WHAT WE THINK THAT WILL BE AND
DEPENDING ON WHAT IT ACTUALLY
IS, THE DIFFERENCE, AN
AUTOMATIC PASS THROUGH COUNCIL,
REQUIRING NO CITY ACTION.
WE DO HAVE THE FLEX ABILITY TO
PUSH THE TIMING OF THAT
SLIGHTLY, SO WE CAN USE THE
1.5% WE ARE EXPECTING AS AN
OFFSET TO THE 3.9%.
LET'S ADVANCE THE SLI, MORE
RAW.
SO, PART OF THE CONVERSATION
THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY, DOING
UTILITY RATES WHAT ONE MIGHT BE
HELPFUL.
I WILL RUN THROUGH THE ONE
SLIDE AND THEN RUN THIS TO MY
TEAM.
WE SET RATES TO COVER THE COST
OF OPERATIONS.
THE RATE SETTING IS A TWO PART
PROCESS.
THERE IS ONE, WHAT IS THE
REVENUE REQUIREMENT, HOW MUCH
MONEY DO WE NEED TO COLLECT IN
ORDER TO PAY OUR OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE FOR THE SERVICES
THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE CITY,
TO PAY FOR THE PURCHASED POWER
AND LABOR COSTS, AND TO COVER
BOTH DEBT SERVICE THAT WE
TYPICALLY USE TO FUND A PORTION
OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PLAN, AS WELL AS THE PORTION OF
THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE
FUND WITH CURRENT REVENUES.
SO THAT IS THE REVENUE
REQUIREMENT.
THE SECOND PART OF THE RATE
SETTING PROCESS, WHICH IS NOT
CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY HERE, IS
WHERE WE DETERMINED TO ALLOCATE
THE COST.
SO THERE WAS, BEFORE I CAME
HERE, AGAIN IN THE SUMMER OF
2018, AS THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS
BEING TRANSMITTED, THERE WAS
INTEREST IN THE PART OF BOTH A
REVIEW PANEL AND COUNCIL
MEMBERS, TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE
ALLOCATING THE COST.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT TO
SAY WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE
WORK INTENTIONALLY GOING INTO
THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
WE USE A PROCESS CALLED THE
COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS OR --
THAT IS THE INDUSTRY STANDARD
THAT IS USED TO ALLOCATE COST
AMONGST DIFFERENT CLASSES.
THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS AND SAYS,
WHERE ARE THE COSTS BEING
EXPERIENCED IN THE DRIVERS FOR
COST?
IT ALLOCATES THEM TO THE
CLASSES BASED ON HOW THEY
SUPPORT THE CUSTOMER CLASS.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY
DO, MOST TYPICAL UTILITIES DO
EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, OR
CERTAINLY WHEN THERE IS AN
INFREQUENT RATE ACTION.
WE WOULD HAVE DONE COST OF
SERVICE ANALYSIS LAST YEAR,
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE
CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET DURING
COVID-19 BECAUSE WE WERE NOT
DOING THE RATE ACCESS.
AND NOW WE ARE JUST CALLING FOR
A ONE YEAR ACTION, WHILE
COMPLETING THE PLANNING PROCESS,
WE ARE DEFERRING IT UNTIL 2022.
THE STAFF WOULD INTEND TO DO
THE WORK, COMPLETE THE WORK NEXT
YEAR AND THEN INFLUENCE, AND
THE VARIOUS RATE CLASSES OF
JANUARY OF 2023.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE RATE
DESIGN IS SO WHEN ERIC
INDICATED THE RATE INCREASE
WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD, WE
HAVE NOT MODIFIED IT.
CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
WORKING WITH THE STATE UTILITY
BOARD, AND THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON, THEY ARE THE RATE
SETTING AUTHORITY.
THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF
PUSHBACK FROM OLYMPIA.
THIS IS THE DEFINING FACTOR FOR
PUBLIC POWER, YOU ARE THE RATE
SETTING AUTHORITY, AND IN THAT
ROLE YOU REPRESENT THE CUSTOMER
AND THE CUSTOMER'S VOICE.
SUPPLEMENTAL AUTOMATIC RATE
MECHANISMS, THAT THE PREVIOUS
COUNCIL TOOK TO PROVIDE
STABILITY RATES AND REVENUE
REQUIREMENT, AGAIN I ALREADY
SPOKE HOW THE BONNEVILLE --
WORKS, SO WE PUT THAT IN THE
RATE TRAJECTORY, BECAUSE WE DO
NOT KNOW AND BONNEVILLE WILL
NOT FINALIZE ITS CURRENT RATE
PROCESS UNTIL AUGUST OF THIS
YEAR, THAT IS THE TIMEFRAME.
WE USUALLY GET ABOUT 60 TO 90
DAYS NOTICE BEFORE GOES INTO
EFFECT WITH BONNEVILLE.
IT PASSES THROUGH AUTOMATICALLY.
TYPICAL RATE PROCESS, YOU KNOW,
AS MENTIONED, TYPICALLY WE
WOULD BRING IN A NEW STRATEGIC
PLAN EVERY TWO YEARS.
THE STRATEGIC PLAN WOULD COVER
A SIX YEAR PERIOD AND INCLUDE A
SIX RATE RATE -- SIX YEAR RATE
TRAJECTORY AND THROUGH THE
ACTION YOU WOULD BE, I CANNOT
REMEMBER THE WORD, CHRIS, WHAT
IS THE WORD?
WE ARE ACTUALLY, YOU ARE
ACTUALLY DOCKED IN THE FIRST
YEARS RATE ACTION AND WHAT IS
IT IN THE SECOND YEAR?
>> THE ENDORSED BUDGET IF
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
>> TYPICALLY AS YOU APPROVE THE
TWO YEAR BUDGET, YOU ARE
ENDORSING THE RATE STRUCTURE
FOR A SECOND YEAR AND THEN IT
GETS CONFIRMED WHEN WE BUILD A
SECOND YEAR BUDGET AND BRING IT
FORWARD.
WE ARE DOING THAT KIND OF THIS
YEAR.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THIS
YEAR YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE
STRATEGIC PLAN YET.
THE PLAN, WHICH, WE ARE AT A
POINT, WE HAVE THE BONES OF IT.
WE KNOW WHAT THE BUSINESS
STRATEGIES ARE, WE HAVE GREAT
EXAMPLES OF THE PROJECTS, THE
ACTIONS, THE INITIATIVES THAT
WE PLAN TO TAKE IT ABOUT READY
TO TURN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND
THEN WE WOULD BE ON THE PATH TO
BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU AFTER
THE REVIEW PANEL PRODUCES THEIR
LETTER, ETC.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE
COUNCIL HAS BEEN NO INVOLVED AND
-- HAS BEEN INVOLVED AND THEY
SUPPORT THE ACTIONS WE ARE
SUPPORTING TODAY.
THE LETTER THAT GENERALLY COMES
WITH FORMAL APPROVAL WILL COME
WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO WHERE WE ARE NOW, AGAIN,
RATE PROCESS IN 2020, IMPACTED
BY COVID-19.
WE BALANCE THE 2021 BUDGET WITH
A ONE-TIME REDUCTION, BROUGHT
NO RATE ACTION FORWARD AND NOW
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SWITCHING
THE CURRENT RSA SURCHARGE AND
CONVERTING IT TO A BASE RATE
INCREMENT.
AND WITH NO BILL IMPACTS.
AND OF COURSE, THE 3.9%
POTENTIAL ACTION FOR JANUARY 1,
2022.
I THINK THAT IS WHAT I COVERED
AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE
SPECIFICS WERE TODAY?
>> PLEASE, CONTINUE.
>> OKAY, SEEING NONE.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MY
COLLEAGUE, KIRSTY GRAINGER,
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT.
>> A MORNING.
A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON
CITY LIGHTS, WHAT IS HAPPENING
úIN THE ELECTRICITY WORLD, OWIN
TO COVID-19 AND PANDEMIC
RESPONSE, SO, LAST YEAR, YOU
WILL SEE THIS CHART HERE, SHOWS
ELECTRICITY DEMAND IN 2020.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE SECOND
QUARTER WE SAW A LARGE DECREASE
IN COMMERCIAL DEMAND FOR
ELECTRICITY, A LARGE INCREASE
IN INDUSTRIAL, AND SMALL
INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR
RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY.
WHICH HOPEFULLY MAKE SENSE, AS
PEOPLE WHO USED TO WORK IN THE
DOWNTOWN CORE, LIKE MANY OF US
ON THIS CALL, WENT TO TELEWORK
IN THEIR HOMES.
WE SAW A BIG REDUCTION IN
COMMERCIAL ELECTRICITY USE.
BUT ALSO AN UPTICK IN
RESIDENTIAL USE, IF YOU ARE
LIKE ME AT HOME, RUNNING THREE
ZOOM CALLS SIMULTANEOUSLY IN
YOUR HOUSE.
AND SO FOR CITY LIGHT, YOU CAN
SEE IN THE CHART AT THE BOTTOM,
OUR CHALLENGE IS THAT OUR MAKEUP
OF WHO USES ELECTRICITY IS
STRONGLY WEIGHTED TOWARDS
COMMERCIAL USE.
WE ARE A VERY URBAN AREA AND
SEATTLE HAS A LARGE, VIBRANT,
NORMALLY DOWNTOWN CORE.
THAT IS A BIG PART OF OUR
ELECTRICITY DEMAND.
YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE CHART
AT THE BOTTOM, 57%, OF
ELECTRICITY USE IS ATTRIBUTABLE
TO COMMERCIAL.
ONLY ABOUT ONE THIRD IS
RESIDENTIAL.
SO WHAT HAPPENED IS, THE
COMMERCIAL USE DROPPED AND SOME
WAS OFFSET BY AN INCREASE IN
THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
BUT NOT ALL OF IT.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN
TALKING WITH OUR FRIENDS AT SPU,
TALKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN
THE INDUSTRY, THIS IS SOMETHING
WHERE FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT,
WE HAVE BEEN IMPACTED MORE
SEVERELY BY PANDEMIC RESPONSE,
THEN I GUESS SPU.
IN THEIR CASE THE COMMERCIAL
AND RESIDENTIAL ALMOST OFFSET,
AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND IN-SERVICE TERRITORIES THAT
MAY BE MORE SUBURBAN, THEY WILL
HAVE A STRONGER RESIDENTIAL
PRESENCE AND THAT OFFSET IS
MORE BALANCED.
BUT FOR CITI BIKE, THIS IS A
SIGNIFICANT REVENUE ISSUE.
AND IN 2020, OUR REVENUE GAP
TOTALED ABOUT $35 MILLION.
I WILL MENTION HERE TOO,
ANOTHER FACTOR THAT I KNOW IS
TOP OF LINE FOR US, IS
RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE
BEEN IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC
AND ARE NOW STRUGGLING TO PAY
THEIR RENT, BILLS, AND SO THIS
IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS ALSO
TRANSLATING TO A REVENUE
CHALLENGE.
CORRECT ME IF I GET THE STEPS
WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS
WE HAVE ABOUT 10% OF THE
RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS WHO ARE
BEHIND ON THEIR ELECTRICITY
BILLS RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.
IN 2020, THIS WILL CONTRIBUTE
TO ABOUT A $20 MILLION WRITE
OFF IN REVENUES FROM CUSTOMERS
WHO WILL BE ABLE TO PAY BILLS.
AND SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THE
FINANCIAL CHALLENGES THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT IN THE UPCOMING
YEARS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE
THAT WE ARE FUNDING AND
PLANNING FOR A PATH TO GET THE
CUSTOMERS BACK ON TRACK WITH
THEIR BILLS AND HELPING THEM DO
THAT, IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT.
CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE?
SO, SWITCHING BACK TO THE
COMMERCIAL VIEW, THIS BIG
UNCERTAINTY WITH US WITH THE
REVENUE IS WHEN WILL COMMERCIAL
USE COME BACK?
VERY STRONGLY TIED TO, WHEN
WILL DOWNTOWN COME BACK?
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS KIND OF A
COOL CHART, A BUBBLE CHART.
THE SIZE OF THE BUBBLE
INDICATES THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR
AND HOW MUCH OUR ELECTRICITY
DEMAND IS REPRESENTED BY THE
SECTOR.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT WE HAVE
GOT SECTORS LIKE DATA CENTERS,
HOSPITALS, SO THOSE ARE
SIGNIFICANT.
BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IMPACTED
VERY MUCH BY PANDEMIC RESPONSE.
WHICH MAKE SENSE.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER SECTORS LIKE
OFFICE SPACE, LODGING,
RESTAURANTS, THAT HAVE BEEN
IMPACTED A LOT.
YOU CAN SEE THE 10% RANGE AND
OFFICE SPACE MAKES UP ABOUT ONE
THIRD OF OUR COMMERCIAL DEMAND.
EVEN MORE IMPACTED, THIS IS
PROBABLY VERY INTUITIVE,
UNIVERSITIES, SCHOOLS, AND THE
CATEGORY CALLED ASSEMBLY, WHICH
WOULD INCLUDE THEATERS, HOUSES
OF WORSHIP, STADIUMS, PLACES
WHERE PEOPLE GATHER AND
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS AN AREA WHERE
WE HAVE SEEN THE PANDEMIC
IMPACT THEM A LOT.
SO WE HAVE SEEN REDUCTIONS, 25%
LESS IN ELECTRICITY DEMAND FROM
THOSE BUSINESSES.
ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE SLIDE ON
THE RETAIL SALES.
SO, ALL OF THIS TOGETHER,
ATTRIBUTED TO A 4% DECLINE IN
RETAIL SALES, ELECTRICITY
DEMAND FOR CITY LIGHT, IN 2020.
AND OWING TO IMPROVEMENT AND
EFFICIENCY, EFFICIENT NEW
HOUSING STOCK, CITY LIGHT IS
SEEING OUR ENERGY USE, DEMAND
FOR ELECTRICITY ON THE DECLINE
FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
WHICH HAS BEEN A FINANCIAL
CHALLENGE FOR US THAT WE HAVE
BEEN WATCHING AND MONITORING
CLOSELY.
NOW LAYERING ON TOP OF THAT THE
IMPACTS OF THE PANDEMIC, WE CAN
SEE THAT WE JUST SHIFTED DOWN A
LOT.
AND SO THIS IS A VERY
SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL CHALLENGE
FOR US.
AND SOMETHING WE WILL BE
CONTENDING WITH FOR THE NEXT 5
TO 8 YEARS.
SO, TWO THINGS TO TAKE AWAY
FROM THE START, NUMBER ONE,
NEAR-TERM RECOVERY.
PARTICULARLY THE COMMERCIAL
SECTOR, PARTICULARLY THE
DOWNTOWN CORE, IS A SIGNIFICANT
DRIVER FOR THE REVENUE
RECOVERY.
AND THEN RELIEVE THE LONG-TERM
GROWTH IS EVERYTHING HINGING ON
TRANSPORTATION, BUILDINGS, SO
COUNCIL MEMBERS I KNOW THAT
THIS IS A TOPIC THAT IS NOT
JUST ABOUT CITY LIGHT BUT
ACROSS OTHER POLICIES.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE WORK THAT THEY
ARE DOING TO CHANGE BUILDING
CODES, THAT WILL BE A MAJOR
FACTOR IN DRIVING LONG TERM
STABILITY AND LONG-TERM RATE
AFFORDABILITY FOR CUSTOMER
OWNERS.
>> AND COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND
UNHOUSED.
MY QUESTION DISTANCE FROM
PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE
LIVE QUITE IN-DEPTH, TO CALL OUT
THE FACT THAT THE DOTTED LINE
THAT IS ON THE DOWNWARD
TRAJECTORY IS THEN PUT INTO AN
UPWARD TRAJECTORY, BOTH THE
ORANGE AND BLUE.
NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF ENERGY CODE
THAT WE JUST PASSED, ALSO
BECAUSE OF METRO LOOKING TO
ELECTRIFY THEIR FLEET. WE
TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
WASHINGTON STATE FERRY SYSTEM
USING ELECTRICAL AND JUST
ELECTRIFICATION SPENDING ACROSS
THE MARKET.
AND WHILE YOU TOUCHED ON THE
FACT THAT AS WE BECOME MORE
ENERGY EFFICIENT, WE HAVE SEEN
A DECREASE IN DEMAND AND THIS IS
WHERE WE HAVE A REALLY AMAZING
OPPORTUNITY TO USE A VERY GREEN
ENERGY SOURCE, WITH CITY LIGHT
ENERGY SOURCES, TO FIGHT THE
CLIMATE CRISIS.
AND BRING YOUR DEMAND BACK BY
INCREASING OUR RELIANCE ON
ELECTRICITY.
I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION BUT
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU
HAD GONE IN DEPTH IN THAT YOU
PROVIDED REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK.
BUT IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ON
THE TEAM WANTS TO EXPAND ON THE
OTHER AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR
ELECTRIFICATION AND HOW THAT IS
OFFSETTING OUR ENERGY
EFFICIENCY, WE WOULD LOVE TO
HEAR IT.
>> WELL, I WILL JUST JUMP IN
FOR A MOMENT.
I THINK AND I KNOW SAM ZIMBABWE
, IS ON THIS CALL TOO.
THE CITY IS RELEASING THEIR
TRANSPORTATION, THE
ELECTRIFICATION ROADMAP.
AND IT TRULY IS A MULTI-
DEPARTMENT EFFORT ON HOW AND
HOW THE CITY CONTINUES TO MOVE
TOWARDS DEEP DECARBONIZATION
THROUGH ELECTRIFICATION.
AT THIS POINT, AS YOU POINTED
OUT, GOING FORWARD OF THE
BUILDING SECTOR, GIVING CHANGES
IN CODE.
YOU KNOW WE ARE, WHEN THIS LOAD
FORECAST ORIGINALLY CAME TO CITY
LIGHT'S EXECUTIVE TEAM, IN LATE
2020, WE HAD NOT INCORPORATED
THE NEW BUILDING CODE
INFORMATION.
WE LOOKED AT IT AND IT WAS EVEN
SCARIER, BUT HONESTLY.
THEN WE ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK
AND LOOK AT THEIR ASSUMPTIONS
AROUND BOTH ELECTRIFICATION AND
BUILDING SECTOR.
AGAIN IT IS ONE OF THE AREAS OF
GREAT UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE IT IS
UNCLEAR HOW THE ECONOMIC
RECOVERY AND THE MOVE TOWARDS
ELECTRIFICATION, HOW THOSE TWO
WILL ALIGN GOING FORWARD WITH
RESPECT TO TIMING.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, AS YOU
POINTED OUT, WE DO HAVE
INFORMATION NOW FROM PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION, PARTNERS AND
FOLKS WE ARE LOOK WORKING
CLOSELY WITH.
AS YOU POINTED OUT THE PORT,
METRO, ETC.
THEY ARE MOSTLY MOVING FORWARD
WITH THEIR PLANS.
FOR MOST OF THEM, THE
ELECTRIFICATION OF PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION IS SOMETHING
WHERE IT IS A LONG PLANNING
CYCLE, LONG LEAD TIMES IN TERMS
OF ORDERS, AND A LOT OF PUBLIC
AND FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP
WITH THOSE EFFORTS.
FORTUNATELY THAT DOES NOT SEEM
TO BE SLOWING DOWN AND WE FEEL
VERY ENCOURAGED BY THAT.
WE ALSO ARE HAVING INCREASED
LUCK.
WE WERE SLOW AT THE BEGINNING,
MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR OWN
ELECTRIC UTILITY.
THE PUBLICLY OWNED CHARGED AS
WELL IS WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC
SECTOR.
WE HAVE GOT IT GOING IN A GROOVE
NOW AND SOME OF OUR TEAM HAVE
REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW TO MAKE
IT EASY.
WE SET A GOAL FOR OURSELVES
THAT WE WANTED FOLKS TO BE ABLE
TO SPEND MONEY IN OUR COMMUNITY
AND WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT
WE COULD TO SUPPORT THEM.
AND OTHER PRIVATE SECTOR
CHARGING COMPANIES.
SO, I FEEL THAT WE ARE GAINING
REAL OMENTUM BOTH AS A COUNTRY
BUT ALSO A CITY.
SO THIS IS HUGE FOR US AND THE
WAY WE TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE
TIME, MY TEAM, YOU KNOW GETS
TIRED OF HEARING ME SAY THAT.
WE ARE INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE
LOAD.
YOU KNOW, HAS BECOME FORWARD
AND BRING YOU THE STRATEGIC
PLAN HERE SHORTLY, AND YOU WILL
SEE THAT, ONE OF OUR HUGE, BIG
INITIATIVES GOING FORWARD IS
GRID MODERNIZATION SO WE CAN
INVEST IN AND SUPPORT
ELECTRIFICATION IN A GRACEFUL
WAY OVER TIME.
THAT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
FOR US BECAUSE AGAIN, AS WE
CONTINUE TO INVEST IN ENERGY
EFFICIENCY AND CREATED THE
DOWNWARD PRESSURE, THIS IS OUR
OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO PUSH
THE DEEP DECARBONIZATION, EVEN
MORE SO, NOT MORE SO BUT IN
CONJUNCTION WITH ENERGY
EFFICIENCY WITH THE LOAD IN THE
REVENUE THAT WE NEED TO SURVIVE
AND THRIVE.
THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE, CONTINUE.
>> GREAT.
SO, OWING TO THE CHALLENGES ON
THE RETAIL SALES SIDE, LOOKING
OUT TO 2022, WHICH WE ARE DOING
AS WE DO OUR PREP WORK FOR THE
NEW STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WILL BE
BRINGING TO CITY COUNCIL THIS
SUMMER, OUR PRELIMINARY
FORECAST INDICATES THAT TAKING
INTO ACCOUNT THE REDUCED DEMAND
FOR ELECTRICITY, RESTORING THE
ONE-TIME CUTS THAT WE ADOPTED
IN OUR 2020 BUDGET, AND THEN
LOOKING AHEAD TO THE 2022
BUDGET, RESTORING THE
PRODUCTIONS, THE DECLINING
LOAD, ABSORBING TWO YEARS OF
INFLATION AND OTHER FACTORS,
THIS INDICATES A NEED OF 7%
INCREASE IN JANUARY OF 2022.
ABSENT OF OTHER ACTION.
SO, THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IS
PRESENTED BY THE RSA SURCHARGES
ROLLING OFF HERE IN THE
BEGINNING OF 2021, THIS IS A
STRATEGY WHERE WE WOULD
EXCHANGE THE RSA SURCHARGES FOR
THE BASE RATE INCREASE.
AND THEN IMPLEMENT THE SMALL
RATE INCREASE IN JANUARY OF
2022.
WE SEE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO SMOOTH BILLS, SMOOTH RATES,
BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE
ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE IF WE DID
NOT TAKE ACTION, NOW, WE WOULD
BE IMPLEMENTING SMALL RATE
DECREASES THROUGH 2021.
THEN TURNED AROUND AND PULL IN
A LARGE INCREASE AT THE END OF
THE YEAR.
AND THAT IS NOT THE CUSTOMER
BILL EXPERIENCE WE WOULD LIKE
TO PROVIDE.
SO THE SMOOTHING OPPORTUNITY,
YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHART DOWN
BELOW, WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT
JUST ON BASE RATE OF SMOOTHING
THAT SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO
A LARGE RATE ACTION IN 2022.
>> OH, AND THEN THIS CHART
SHOWS THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS
THE DRAFT OUTLOOK FOR THE
STRATEGIC PLAN.
YOU WILL SEE FORMALLY LATER
THIS YEAR.
BUT THE INTENT IS THAT YOU CAN
SEE THERE THAT THE 3.9% ALIGNS
WITH THE PLAN ADOPTED BY THE
FORMER CITY COUNCIL IN 2018 AND
THAT ENDORSED RATE. AND WHAT WE
INTEND TO DO, LOOKING AT IT, TO
BE ABLE TO DELIVER SMALL
INFLATION SIZED RATE INCREASES
THE OUT THE HORIZON OF THE
STRATEGIC PLAN.
QUESTIONS?
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT ON THE
SLIDE.
>> WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE
END.
>> GREAT.
ALL RIGHT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES,
PLEASE.
>> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK
DEBRA, MOIRA, AND WE HAD A
BRIEFING WITH MY STAFF AND I
APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU
TOOK TO EDUCATE ME ON HOW THIS
WORKS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I
APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS
IN ENSURING SOME STABILITY AND
DETECTABILITY FOR CUSTOMERS. I
KNOW THAT, PARTICULARLY FOR LOW
INCOME FOLKS HAVING INCREDIBLE
FLUCTUATIONS IN THEIR RATES IS
DAMAGING.
SO, I AM GRATEFUL TO ALL OF YOU
FOR THINKING THROUGH HOW TO
PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MOIRA, SHOULD WE MOVE AHEAD?
ALL RIGHT.
SO AS BOTH DEBRA AND ERIC
DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE ORDINANCE
POSES TO DO THE THINGS IN THIS
YELLOW BOX HERE.
EXCHANGING THE RSA SURCHARGES
FOR A BASE RATE INCREASE OF 3%.
AND LOOKING AHEAD TO JANUARY 1,
2022, LEGISLATING THE 3.9% RATE
INCREASE.
KNOWING THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE
WITH THE BONNEVILLE
ANNOUNCEMENT THIS SUMMER, THAT
THAT WOULD TRANSLATE INTO AN
EFFECTIVE INCREASE OF
APPROXIMATELY 2.4%.
THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD
ACTUALLY GO INTO THE BILLING
SYSTEM IN JANUARY OF 2022.
JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT
FOR WHAT THIS WOULD TRANSLATE
INTO, FOR A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL
CUSTOMER, 2.4% IS ABOUT $1.80 A
MONTH OF AN INCREASE.
AND FOR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE
ENROLLED IN THE UTILITY
DISCOUNT PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES
A 60% DISCOUNT ON ALL OF THEIR
ELECTRIC BILLS, THIS WOULD BE
ABOUT $.72 A MONTH.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO ONE MORE SLIDE.
THIS IS JUST THE NEXT STEPS.
SO, MARCH, WE ARE DISCUSSING
THE ORDINANCE.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE
WOULD THEN BE LOOKING FOR
ACTION ON THE 29th IN AMITY.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO
APRIL 1st, WHICH WOULD BE THE
PROPOSED EFFECTIVE DATE.
BUT SEEING AS THE PUTTING OF
THE ORDINANCE INTO EFFECT WOULD
DO NOTHING, CHANGE NOTHING IN
THE BILLING SYSTEM, WE DO NOT
NEED A LOT OF LEAD TIME TO DO
NOTHING.
SO THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN
APRIL.
BEEN LOOKING AHEAD TO THE
SUMMER, WE WOULD BE BRINGING
FORWARD THE 2022-2026 FIVE-YEAR
STRATEGIC PLAN AND LOOKING FOR
THE BONNEVILLE ANNOUNCEMENT IN
THE SUMMER ON WHAT THE RATE
DECREASE WILL BE COMING OUT OF
THE BONNEVILLE PASS-THROUGH.
AND THEN JANUARY 1, 2022, THAT
WOULD BE AFTER THE BUDGET
PROCESS.
AND AT THAT POINT THE BUDGET FOR
2022 WOULD BE FORMALLY ADOPTED
THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.
THAT IS WHEN THE 3.9 -1 1/2, SO
2.4% EFFECTIVE RATE WOULD BE
IMPLEMENTED.
AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO
2022, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEXT
CYCLE, THAT IS THE NEXT TIME
YOU WOULD SEE, AS DEBRA
MENTIONED, THIS IS WHERE WE
WOULD BRING FORWARD THE FULL
RATE CASE WITH COST OF SERVICE
RATE DESIGN AND ALL OF THAT
WOULD BE IN THE SUMMER OF 2022.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
PRESENTATION.
I DO WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW
THAT I DID SPEAK TO THE HEAD OF
THE CITY LIGHT REVIEW PANEL
THIS WEEK.
AND HE CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARE
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS APPROACH.
AND THIS ORDINANCE TODAY.
SO, THAT IS, GENERAL MANAGER
SMITH MENTIONED THE CITY LIGHT
REVIEW PANEL BRIEFLY BUT JUST
AS A REMINDER FOR FOLKS, THEY
ARE THE WATCHDOG AND WE APPOINT
SOME MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR
APPOINTS OTHERS AND THEY WORK
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND ARE ON
TOP OF THESE THINGS.
ERIC McCONAGHY FROM CENTRAL
STAFF, MY STAFF ATTEND THOSE
MEETINGS.
SO, LET'S TALK NOW ABOUT THE
TIMING OF THIS. DOES ANYBODY
WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN
TALK ABOUT THE TIMING?
YES, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
THANK YOU AGAIN, KIRSTY
GRAINGER, GENERAL MANAGER
DEBBIE, AND ERIC.
AGAIN, IT HAS NOT EVEN BEEN A
WEEK SINCE THE FIRST TIME WE
MET ON THIS AND WE HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO MEET THREE TIMES.
SO, JUST CALLING OUT THE FACT
THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO MEET AND
MOVE QUICKLY AND MEET WITH ME A
NUMBER OF TIMES.
I AM GOING TO SEPARATE MY
COMMENTS TO THE RATE
STABILIZATION ACCOUNT IN THE
FIRST HALF, AND THEN THE SECOND
HALF, AND MORE, SORRY, AND
MOIRA, YOU WERE AMAZING AS
WELL!
AND THEN THE SECOND HALF
CODIFYING THE RATE CHANGES FOR
2022.
SO, ABOVE EVERYTHING AND ALL
ELSE, YOU HAVE ALL DONE AN
AMAZING JOB THIS LAST YEAR
MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
STABILIZING RATES, LIKE I THINK
SLIDE SIX, IT WAS SLIDES THREE,
FOUR, FIVE, SIX, DEMONSTRATING
WITH DEMONSTRATING HOW OUR
COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS HAVE
DROPPED, THE INDUSTRIAL
ACCOUNTS HAVE DROPPED,
RESIDENTIAL HAS INCREASED.
I COULD GO ON ALL DAY ABOUT HOW
GREAT OF WORK YOU HAVE DONE.
WHERE MY CONCERNS LIE ARE IN
THAT SECOND PATH REGARDING
CODIFYING THE 2022 RATE, FOR NO
OTHER REASON OTHER THAN I HAVE
NOT HAD ENOUGH TIME TO PROCESS
IT.
IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO
PROCESS IT IN THE CONTEXT OF
THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO, SPEAKING TO GENERAL MANAGER
YESTERDAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE
WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SIT DOWN FOR AN HOUR OR MAYBE
TWO, TO DISCUSS THAT BEFORE IT
COMES TO FULL COUNCIL.
AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, YOU KNOW,
THE KIRKLAND EASEMENT THAT WE
JUST HAD BEFORE US, THAT WE
VOTED ON, WE HAD A BRIEFING
ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
OKAY BEFORE COMMITTEE TWICE.
UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS
MOVING FASTER THAN, WE HAVE THE
APRIL 1st DEADLINE, I DON'T
WANT TO HOLD UP YOUR GOOD WORK
AND I NEED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE
THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO VOTE
APPROPRIATELY.
CHAIR PEDERSEN, IT IS HELPFUL
TO HEAR FROM THE OVERSIGHT
BOARD, THANK YOU FOR CONNECTING
WITH THEM.
REALLY MY COMMENTS ARE JUST OF
GREEK -- DEEP GRATITUDE, AND
CALLING OUT THE FACT THAT
ESPECIALLY, S.D.O.T.
CAN ATTEST TO THIS, LAST YEAR
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC I WAS NOT
BRIEFED ON A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE
ORDINANCE AND WE HAD TO HOLD
IT, IT GOT HELD UP THROUGHOUT
THE PANDEMIC BECAUSE WE DID NOT
GET A CHANCE TO COME BACK AND
MEET AGAIN.
AGAIN, CALLING OUT THE
SERIOUSNESS THAT I TAKE THESE
BRIEFINGS WELL IN ADVANCE OF
MEETING TO TAKE NOTES.
SO, HAPPY TO SUPPORT US MOVING
FORWARD TO THE MARCH 29th
COMMITTEE MEETING.
THE REASON, CHAIR, THAT I HAD
MY EAR SO TUNED TO THAT IS
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TO MEET
OUR APRIL 1st DEADLINE.
WITH THAT, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK,
WITH THAT I HAVE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
I AGREE THAT MORE TIME IS
APPROPRIATE AND I AM GLAD THAT
WE ARE ABLE TO WORK SOMETHING
OUT WHERE WE WILL HAVE THIS AT
THE MARCH 29th CITY COUNCIL.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE SCHEDULE
THE COMMITTEES, WE WILL
CONTINUE TO TRY TO BUILD IN
MORE TIME.
ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMPLEX
COUNCIL BUILDS.
SO, I APPRECIATE YOU RAISING
THAT AND I HEAR YOU ON THAT.
ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT
TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THEM, YOU MAY HAVE
ANSWERED AND I MAY HAVE MISSED
IT.
ON THE RSA ACCOUNT, CAN YOU
JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
WHAT THIS MILLION DOLLAR FUND IS
, WHAT SPECIFICALLY IT CAN BE
USED FOR.
DOES KEEPING RATES LOW DURING
THE PANDEMIC QUALIFY AS USE FOR
THE FUNDS?
ALSO, I AM ALWAYS INTERESTED IN
SORT OF WHAT SOME OF THE
CAPITAL DRIVERS ARE OF RATE
INCREASES.
AND I FOLLOWED THIS BECAUSE I
USED TO CHAIR THE COMMITTEE
WITH OVERSIGHT OF SEATTLE
PUBLIC UTILITIES.
AND ONE WAY WE REDUCED THE SIZE
OF PROPOSED RATE INCREASE WAS BY
REDUCING, BECAUSE AT SPU, THE
CIP DEFINITELY DRIVES
INCREASES.
WE REDUCED WHAT WAS CALLED THE
ACCOMPLISHMENT RATE OF CAPITAL
PROJECTS.
THEY HAD BEEN ASSUMING
PREVIOUSLY THAT WHAT HUNDRED
PERCENT OF THE PROJECTS WOULD BE
COMPLETED 100% OF THE TIME.
AND BY REDUCING THE
ACCOMPLISHMENT RATE TWO MORE
ALIGNED WITH WHAT ACTUALLY
HAPPENS IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE
WERE ABLE TO BRING IT DOWN.
SO I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW
WHETHER OR NOT SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHMENT
RATE.
AND WHETHER OR NOT THE CIP HAS
INCREASES INTERNALLY.
THANKS.
>> WHILE I CAN TRY TO ANSWER
YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THEN ERIC
AND DEBRA, UNLESS YOU WOULD
LIKE TO GO FIRST.
SORRY.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> YOUR FIRST QUESTION ABOUT
THE RSA, THE RSA, THE RULES FOR
OPERATION ARE SET BY ORDINANCE.
AND CURRENTLY THE FUND IS
RESTRICTED TO ONLY BALANCING
REVENUES FROM WHOLESALE SALES.
WITH THAT SAID, WITH COUNCIL
ACTION, THERE ARE OTHER
POSSIBILITIES.
I DO KNOW THAT COMING SOON IS
THE EXPANSION OF THE EMERGENCY
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR CUSTOMER
BILLS.
AND SO THIS IS ONE OPPORTUNITY
WHERE IF CITY LIGHT HAS CASH,
WE COULD USE IT TO SUPPORT
HELPING CUSTOMERS WHO ARE
BEHIND ON THEIR BILLS GET THOSE
BALANCES PAID OFF.
AS FAR AS THE RSA, TO CHANGE
ANYTHING ABOUT IT WOULD REQUIRE
ORDINATES.
>> AND TO JUMP ON THAT PIECE,
BECAUSE IT DOES REPRESENT AN
OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT.
THAT IS THAT WE HAVE ALSO
TALKED ABOUT RESIZING THE RSA,
WHICH WOULD AGAIN COME BACK TO
YOU ALL FOR ACTION.
WHEN THE RSA MECHANISM WAS
DEVELOPED, I THINK IN 2010, AND
WHOLESALE PRICES WERE
CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN THEY
ARE NOW, YOU KNOW JUST AS WE
HAVE SLOWLY OVER TIME IN OUR
BUDGET PROCESS, WE HAVE BEEN
BRINGING OUR EXPECTATIONS
AROUND WHOLESALE REVENUE IN LINE
BY GRADUALLY REDUCING THE
ASSUMPTION OF WHAT WE WILL MAKE.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT BASED
ON THE REDUCTION IN PRICES.
SO WE DO WANT TO GO BACK
THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE
MECHANISM.
IF IT TURNS OUT THE $100
MILLION TARGET IS HIGHER THAN
IT NEEDS TO BE, THEN THERE
WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
LOOK AT WHAT THE FUNDS WOULD GO
TO.
RIGHT NOW WE THINK ABOUT THE
ONE-TIME FUNDS THAT RETURN, BY
CONVERTING THE 3% SURCHARGE
INTO A PERMANENT PART OF THE
RATE BASE RIGHT NOW, THAT DOES
REPRESENT INCREMENTAL REVENUE
TO US IN 2021.
WE THINK ABOUT A PRIMARY USE
FOR THAT BEING HELPING
CUSTOMERS WITH ACCRUED BALANCES.
THERE IS A PIECE OF WORK IN
ADDITION CALLED "ROAD TO
RECOVERY" THAT WE ARE WORKING
ON WITH HELP AND COORDINATION
WITH SPU AND HOW DO WE HELP OUR
CUSTOMERS WORK DOWN THOSE PAST
DUE BILLS.
AND WITH THE SECOND PART OF
YOUR QUESTION, IT IS A REALLY
GOOD QUESTION.
YES.
EVERY UTILITY COUNCIL MEMBER --
EVERY UTILITY, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, ONE OF OUR KEY
STRATEGIES IN THE REDUCTIONS
FOR 2021, AS WELL AS 2020, AND
GOING FORWARD, IS RIGHTSIZING
OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT GOING
FORWARD.
INCLUDING THE HIGHLIGHT OF
THINGS TO COME, BUT WHEN WE
BRING YOU THE STRATEGIC PLAN
AND FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT
SUPPORTS IT, YOU WILL SEE WE
ARE ACTUALLY IN THE LAST TWO
YEARS OF THE STRATEGIC AND
MAKING A CHANGE, AND OVERT
CHANGE TO BEGIN FUNDING MORE OF
OUR CAPITAL FROM RATES.
WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR
EXISTING FINANCIAL POLICY WHICH
WE DEVIATED FROM IN SOME WAY.
THAT IS TO MANAGE THE DEBT
SERVICE NUMBER WHICH IS REALLY
BECOMING QUITE A LARGE PIECE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE, THAT
IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY WAYS THAT
WE REDUCE THE NEED FOR ACTION
IN 2021, BY REDUCING CAPITAL.
AND THEREFORE REDUCING THE
AMOUNT OF DEBT WE TOOK ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS.
WE ARE PROBABLY IN YEAR THREE OF
IMPLEMENTING THIS, WHAT WE CALL
C.A.R.E.S.
ACT.
I THINK MOST DEPARTMENTS HAVE
THIS PROCESS AND THAT IS WHAT
úWE CALL OUR PROCESS WE LOOK
ACROSS THE UTILITY AND
CAPITALIZE ALL NEEDS, SAID THE
NOTION OF BUCKETS OF MONEY
WHERE PEOPLE SAY THAT IS MY
MONEY, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS
HEARD THAT, WE ARE DOING AWAY
WITH THAT.
THE EXECUTIVE TEAM IS REALLY
MAKING THE DECISIONS AROUND
TRADE-OFFS AND THAT IS PART OF
THE BROADER STRATEGY.
WHICH IS TO LIVE WITHIN OUR %
MEANS.
AND TO MANAGE FUTURE RATE
ACTION SO THAT THEY LOOK LIKE
THE COST OF LIVING, AND NOT
CONTINUING ON A RATE PATH THAT
IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
>> AND REALLY QUICK,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, WE DO
NOT ASSUME 100% ATTAINMENT
RATE.
WE START AT 90%, AND WE MODIFY
FROM THERE.
WE TAKE A NUMBER OF CASH
ADJUSTMENTS WHEN WE ARE DOING
THE PLANNING.
>> CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT
MORE TO THAT?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT YOU START
AT 90% AND THEN YOU --
>> APOLOGIES FOR INTERRUPTING.
THEY CAN REACH THEY CAN SPEAK
TO THE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS BUT WE
DO MAKE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO
THE FORECAST, IF WE DO THE
REVENUE REQUIREMENT.
ARE YOU READY?
SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
>> NO WORRIES.
NO WORRIES.
YEAH.
IT IS LOOKING AT SOME TREND
ANALYSIS OF HOW CAPITAL
PROJECTS ARE BUDGETED AND THEN
WHEN WE HAVE ACTUALLY SPENT THE
MONEY.
SO WE TEND TO BUDGET, THINKING
THAT WE WILL SPEND THE MONEY
FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECT SOONER
THAN WE DO.
SO WITHIN OUR PLANNING OF OUR
CAPITAL EXPENSES, WITH THE
RATESETTING PORTION, WE ASSUME
THAT WE SHIFT SOME OF THE
CAPITAL SPENDING OUT EVERY YEAR.
IT IS SHIFTED OUT TO MORE
REFLECT WHAT IS REFLECTIVE IN
HISTORY.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT ADJUSTMENT
TO DOWNWARD SIZE OUR CAPITAL
PROGRAM, AT LEAST COMPARED TO
THE BUDGET AMOUNT WHEN WE
SEPARATE IT.
>> JUST BARRY, SORRY, --
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IT IS
SUPER HELPFUL.
AND TO CHAIR PEDERSEN, SPU
USED TO HAVE AND ACCOMPLISH
RATE, ASSUMING 100% AND THEY
WENT DOWN TO 97%.
AND WAS REALLY ABLE TO REDUCE
THE SIZE OF THEIR RATE,
PROPOSED RATE INCREASE, IN
DOING SO.
THIS MIGHT BE ANOTHER ISSUE TO
BRING UP WITH SPU AGAIN.
BECAUSE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IS
ASSUMING 90% PROJECT COMPLETION
RATE.
THAT SUGGESTS THAT SPU MIGHT BE
ABLE TO GO LOWER.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THAT WITH SEATTLE
PUBLIC UTILITIES.
I AM SURE THEY ARE LISTENING
NOW AND WE WILL BE SURE TO
FOLLOW UP.
COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS ON THIS DEBRA SMITH
-- OIR?
AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBERS, YOU WILL
HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME HERE.
MY MOTION WILL TALK ABOUT MARCH
29th.
SO NOW I MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
CB 120015, ITEM NUMBER TWO.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECONDED.
APPEARANCE OF THE FULL CITY
COUNCIL ON MARCH 29th, AS WE
HAVE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
OKAY.
WILL THE KIRK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE, THE DIRECT PASSAGE OF
THIS BILL AND THE FULL COUNCIL
MARCH 29th.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS
>> YES.
>> PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
THANK YOU, THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND IT WILL BE SENT TO THE
MARCH 29th CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU AND THANKS TO
EVERYONE FOR CITY LIGHT FOR
YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS AND
THANK YOU TO ERIC FROM CENTRAL
STAFF.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
AND LEADERS AND THANK YOU.
>> TAKE CARE.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ
THE TITLE OF THE NEXT AGENDA
INTO THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM 3. PRESENTATION
ON WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE STATUS
FOR BRIEFING AND CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU.
INCONSIDERATION FOR GRANT
ACCEPTANCE FROM PUGET SOUND
COUNCIL, FOR THE WEST SEATTLE
BRIDGE, NEXT ITEM ON THE
AGENDA, CB120017, WE WILL GET A
BRIEF UPDATE ON THE
RESTORATION WORK AND EFFORTS
AROUND THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE.
THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE
PRESENTATION RECEIVED LAST WEEK
BY THE COMMUNITY TASK FORCE.
SO I WANT TO ALSO WELCOME
CENTRAL STAFF ANALYST CALVIN
CHOW , TRACKING THE ISSUES FOR
US.
AND A SHOUT OUT TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, WHERE
WE WILL HEAR FROM NEXT WITH THE
100,000 CONSTITUENTS ON THE
ISSUE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL
MONTHS WITH S.D.O.T.
AND OTHERS . SO, CALVIN CHOW ,
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY BEFORE
WE JUMP INTO THE PRESENTATION?
>> NO, I HAVE NO INTRODUCTORY
MARK.
>> THANK YOU.
WELCOME S.D.O.T.
AND DIRECT YOURONE.
TAKEAWAY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS HAVING US
HERE.
WE ARE ALWAYS HAPPY TO COME AND
TALK ABOUT THE WEST SEATTLE
BRIDGE AT ALL WE ARE DOING.
THIS REMAINS AN EMERGENCY FOR
US AND THE PEOPLE, WE RECOGNIZE
THE IMPACTS THAT THE CONTINUED
CLOSURE OF THE BRIDGE HAS ON
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND BUSINESS,
AND THE WHOLE TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK IN THE CITY AND BEYOND
THAT IN THE WHOLE OF THE STATE
IN TERMS OF ACCESS THAT IT
PROVIDES TO THE PORT OF SEATTLE.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU, WE REACHED
IMPORTANT MILESTONES AND WE
TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE TASK
FORCE LAST WEEK.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND
THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE
CONTINUE TO DO AS PART'S
MITIGATION TO THE IMPACTS.
AND THE SWORD OF FULL PROGRAM
OF THINGS THAT WE DO.
I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO
HEATHER MARX, LEADING THE WHOLE
OF THE EFFORTS, AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO QUESTIONS AND
DISCUSSIONS.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HEATHER
AT THIS POINT.
>> THANKS.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY.
OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS
WEARING THE GREEN.
TO HONOR THAT OCCASION.
TODAY WE WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER
SOME BRIDGE UPDATES AND TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LOW BRIDGE
ACCESS POLICY.
RECONNECT WEST SEATTLE
IMPLEMENTATION, EVERYBODY'S
FAVORITE TOPIC, AND THEN WE
WILL COVER SOME NEXT STEPS.
IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REASONABLE
WAY TO SPEND THE NEXT FEW
MINUTES, I WILL START.
SO, THE KEY ISSUES THAT WE,
THIS PHOTO, BY THE WAY, THIS
WAS TAKEN BY A LOCAL
JOURNALIST, PATRICK ROBINSON.
IT COMES FROM LAST SUMMER WHEN
WE WERE LIFTING THE WORK
PLATFORMS INTO PLACE, DURING
THE SUMMER AS WE WERE ENGAGING
IN THE STABILIZATION WORK THAT
WE NOW CONTINUE TO REPAIR THE
BRIDGE.
SO OUR KEY ISSUES RIGHT NOW ARE
THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING AN
AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE ON THE
PHASE 2 REHABILITATION.
PHASE 1 WAS STABILIZATION.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO DELIVER
COMMITMENTS AND WE ARE MANAGING
ACCESS TO THE LOWER SPOKANE
STREET BRIDGE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
JUST AS A REMINDER, IN CASE YOU
HAVE NOT BEEN TRACKING, WE
CLOSED THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE
ON MAY 23rd, 2020.
THAT FIRST ANNIVERSARY IS COMING
RIGHT UP.
AFTER THE CLOSURE, OUR CRACK
GROW CONTINUED, WHICH CONFIRM
THAT WE WERE RIGHT TO TAKE
TRAFFIC OFF THE BRIDGE, TO
PREVENT CATASTROPHIC COLLAPSE.
YOU MAY RECALL THE MAYOR
DECLARED THE CLOSURE A CITY
EMERGENCY IN JULY, AND DECIDED
IN NOVEMBER THAT WE WOULD MOVE
AHEAD WITH REPAIR, RATHER THAN
REPLACEMENT.
ALL OF OUR INITIAL
STABILIZATION EFFORTS THAT I
MNTIONED EARLIER WERE
COMPLETED IN DECEMBER, AND
EVERYTHING IS PERFORMING AS
EXPECTED.
ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE SNOW
WE GOT THE WEEKEND OF FEBRUARY
11th AND 12.
IT IS HEAVY.
AND THE BRIDGE PERFORMED AS WE
EXPECTED IT TO UNDER THAT LOAD.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
OH.
OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS,
YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> THANK YOU TO HEATHER.
IN THE LAST SIDE, I WANTED TO
CALL OUT THE FACT THAT CLOSING
SUCH A MAJOR ROADWAY AND
CONNECTIVITY POINT TO A LARGE
PART OF OUR CITY IS A DIFFICULT
DECISION.
AND JUST WANT TO THANK MATT
DONAHUE ON THE S.D.O.T.
TEAM.
IT WAS A BRAVE MOVE.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS EVER
A LIGHT DECISION TO GO IN AND
REQUEST THE EXECUTIVE TO MAKE
SUCH A LARGE-SCALE CLOSURE.
2020 HINDSIGHT, CLEARLY THE
RIGHT MOVE, THE RIGHT DECISION
TO MAKE, JUST WANTED TO THANK
MATT AND YOUR TEAM FOR MAKING
THAT HARD DECISION AT THAT
TIME.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ARE ALL GRATEFUL ON A DAILY
BASIS FOR MATT DONAHUE.
WE HAVE REACHED AN IMPORTANT
MILESTONE IN THE PROJECT WHERE
WE HAVE ATTAINED 30% DESIGN FOR
THE REPAIRS.
AND 30% IS MAGICAL BECAUSE THAT
IS WHEN WE, IT IS CALLED
BASELINING AND THAT IS WHEN WE
BASELINED THE PROJECT AND WE
DECIDED ON THE SCOPE, SCHEDULE
AND BUDGET.
AND WE HOLD FIDELITY TO THOSE
STANDARDS, WHAT WE HOLD
OURSELVES TO.
SO THE TOTAL PROGRAM COST WILL
BE $175 MILLION.
THAT INCLUDES MUCH MORE THAN
BRIDGE REPAIR.
INCLUDES BOTH THE HIGH AND LOW
BRIDGE REHABILITATION.
RECONNECTING WEST SEATTLE, THE
TRAFFIC MITIGATION EFFORT WE
ARE UNDERTAKING.
ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL HEALTH
MONITORING, ALL OF THE PHASE 1
REHABILITATION AND
COMMUNICATION AND PROJECT
MANAGEMENT.
FOR THE HIGH BRIDGE
REHABILITATION ALONE, WE
ESTIMATE $50 MILLION AND FOR
THE SWING BRIDGE REHABILITATION
WE ESTIMATE $14 MILLION.
AND AS WE COME BACK TO YOU IN
SUCCESSIVE MONTHS, WE WILL
REPORT TO YOU ON HOW WE ARE
DOING AGAINST THE BASELINE
FIGURES.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, JUST AS A REMINDER, HERE IS
A LITTLE LINE DRAWING OF THE
BRIDGE.
IT SHOWS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO
ADD ADDITIONAL CARBON FIBER
WRAP, AND WHERE WE ARE GOING TO
ADD ADDITIONAL POST TENSIONING.
THE GRAY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE
CENTRAL SPAN SHOWS WHERE WE
HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL POST
TENSIONING AS PART OF THE
STABILIZATION EFFORT.
BUT THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE
SHOW YOU THAT WE ARE GOING TO
DO MUCH MORE POST TENSIONING
AND MUCH MORE CARBON FIBER
AROUND.
NOT JUST IN THE MIDDLE, BUT
ALSO ON THE ENDS.
IN ADDITION, WE WILL DO SOME
GROUND STABILIZATION WORK UNDER
PURE 18.
THAT IS THE ONE ON THE FAR
RIGHT SIDE AS YOU ARE LOOKING
AT THE SLIDE.
AND THE GROUND STABILIZATION
WORK IS NOT REQUIRED AS PART OF
BRIDGE OPENING.
BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN
MAKING SURE THAT THE BRIDGE IS
SEISMICALLY STRONG.
WE ARE ALSO CONSIDERING
ADDITIONAL REPAIR PROJECTS TO
THE BRIDGE CORRIDOR WHILE IT IS
OUT OF COMMISSION.
WHILE THE BRIDGE IS CLOSED AND
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
DONE ALL THE REPAIR, ALL THE
EXPANSION JOINT REPLACEMENTS
THAT WE NEED TO DO, SO WE TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THAT AT THAT TIME
FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE ARE ALSO FOCUSING ATTENTION
ON MAINTAINING THE SWING
BRIDGE.
YOU MAY RECALL LAST YEAR WE
FINISHED A LOAD RATING EXERCISE
THAT DEMONSTRATED TO US THAT
THE SWING BRIDGE WAS NOT
MEETING THE NEW STANDARDS.
THE BRIDGE HAS NOT CHANGED BUT
THE STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED.
WE ARE TAKING A PROACTIVE
APPROACH TO STRENGTHEN AND
MONITORING THE LOW BRIDGE,
WHILE THE HIGHBRIDGE IS CLOSED.
IT IS THE LITTLE BRIDGE THAT
COULD.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IT
CONTINUES TO OPERATE PROPERLY.
WE ARE COORDINATING ALL OF THE
EFFORTS WITH CURRENT FHA
STANDARDS AND BELOW BRIDGE WORK
IS GOING TO BE ON THE SAME
CONTRACT AS THE HIGH BRIDGE
WORK.
IT IS SPECIALIZED WORK AND IN
ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
THE VERY BEST PROPOSALS FROM
CONTRACTORS, WE MERGED THEM
INTO ONE PROJECT.
NEXT SLIDE.
SO, FOR THE BELOW BRIDGE, WE
WILL NOT HAVE TO DO POST
TENSIONING.
WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.
WE WILL HAVE TO INSTALL CARBON
FIBER WRAP, INTERNAL AND
EXTERNAL TO THE GIRDERS.
WE WILL COMPLETE EPOXY CRACK
INJECTION THROUGHOUT AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY WE WILL TAKE A LOOK
AT REPAIR IF NECESSARY, THE
MECHANICAL LOCK SYSTEM THAT
MATCHES THE TWO SPANS TOGETHER
WHEN IT IS CLOSED TO MARINE
úTRAFFIC.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO AS WE HAVE ALWAYS
ANTICIPATED, THE HIGH BRIDGE IS
GOING TO BE REPAIRED BY THE
MIDDLE OF 2022.
AND THE LOW BRIDGE WILL TAKE A
LITTLE LONGER, TO THE END OF
THE THIRD QUARTER.
I WANT TO NOTE FOR EVERYONE,
THAT AS SOON AS WE ARE FINISHED
WITH THE REPAIRS ON THE HIGH
BRIDGE, WE WILL NOT DROP OUR
TOOLS AND OPEN UP THE
FLOODGATES.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN
THE BRIDGE LANE BIPLANE, AND
THAT WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AFTER THE REPAIR IS DONE.
WE FEEL THAT THAT IS THE SAFEST
WAY TO ENSURE THE REPAIRS ARE
WORKING.
BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T WORK THE
RESULTS CAN BE CATASTROPHIC.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> OR I CAN SAVE MY QUESTION
FOR THE END.
>> GO AHEAD.
HEATHER IS IMPERVIOUS TO ANY
QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE SEEN HER ANSWER
EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING FROM
EVERYONE.
>> WONDERFUL.
MY QUESTION WAS ON SLIDE 9.
AND, HEATHER, AGAIN, YOUR TEAM
IS DOING EXCELLENT WORK HERE BY
MOVING QUICKLY AND ENSURING
THAT WHEN WE REOPEN WE LOAD
TEST THE BRIDGE, TO ENSURE THAT
WE ARE NOT PUTTING TOO MUCH
LOAD ON IT.
YOU MENTIONED THE SNOW BEING A
GOOD EXAMPLE OF US PUTTING AN
EXTRA LOAD ON IT.
MY QUESTION, YOU TALKED ABOUT
OPENING ONE LANE AT A TIME.
THIS CAN CREATE CONFUSION FOR
DRIVERS.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO OPEN JUST TO BUSES AND
FREIGHT?
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE
TO THE LOAD TESTING?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE ARE TALKING WITH SOME OF
OUR, I AM SORRY, WE ARE WORKING
WITH SOME TRAFFIC ENGINEERS,
BOTH INTERNAL AND CONSULTANT,
TO HELP US CREATE AN OPENING
PLAN THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE
AS LITTLE CONFUSION AS
POSSIBLE.
AND SO IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO
OPEN IT TO LARGE VEHICLES LIKE
TRANSIT, FIRST.
BUT LIKE I SAID WE ARE ENGAGED
IN THE PLANNING AND WE WILL
KEEP THE COUNCIL , AS WELL AS
THE COMMUNITY, POSTED AS IT
CONTINUES TO DEVELOP.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS
SOON AS THE BRIDGE IS FIXED, IT
WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR
PEOPLE TO NOT WANT TO GET ON
THE BRIDGE RIGHT AWAY.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY.
LIKE ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE DOING THAT IN A WAY THAT IS
MOST RESPONSIBLE AND MOST AWARE
OF CONSEQUENCES OF THAT
DECISION.
>> GOOD.
THANK YOU, HEATHER.
AND MAYBE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE
THE ANSWER, MAYBE A FOLLOW-UP
AFTERWARDS.
SOMETHING THAT COMES TO MIND IS
THE TRANSIT, HOW THEY LOAD TEST
AHEAD OF OPENING.
ANECDOTALLY I THOUGHT SOMEONE
SAID TO ME TAKES THEM SIX
MONTHS UP TO TWO YEARS OF
TESTING ON THE RAILS, BEFORE
THEY CAN PUT PASSENGERS ON THE
TRAINS.
ON THE RAILS.
AND IN THE NEW STATIONS.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW YOUR
WORK COMPARES TO THAT?
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT
SOUND TRANSIT DOES?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON
WHAT SOUND TRANSIT DOES.
BUT I CAN CHECK IN WITH THEM.
ON THAT.
I WILL SAY I KNOW THAT THE
RAILWAY ADMINISTRATION REQUIRES
DIFFERENT KINDS OF SAFETY
PROCEDURES.
THEY ARE LONGER THAN WHAT WE
ARE PONDERING.
>> AND IC CALVINS HAND UP TOO.
I WILL JUMP IN AND SAY THAT
TRANSIT HAS A WAY OF OPENING
NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT
REQUIRES A COMPONENT, CHECKS OF
ALL COMPONENTS AND TRAININGS OF
DRIVERS AND ALL THAT.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANYTHING
LIKE THAT LENGTH OF TIME.
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
>> GREAT.
AND JUST THE POINT, AND CAL,
PLEASE FOLLOW UP, I JUST WANT
TO FOCUS ON THE POINT I WAS
MAKING, EVEN THOUGH WHAT IT
ONCE IT IS COMPLETED, THE
IMPORTANCE OF TAKING THE MOMENT
TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS LOAD
TESTED, IS SO CRITICAL.
THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT A
LOT OF SOUND TRANSIT'S TIME IS
REALLY ABOUT BURNING IN THE
RAILS AND CHECKING THE
ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS IN THE
CONTROL SYSTEMS.
WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF SIGNAL
INTERCEPTS THAT CONNECT WITH
THE TRAFFIC SYSTEMS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER
SYSTEMS THAT ARE EVALUATED.
FRANKLY, IT IS ALSO A TRAINING
RUN FOR OPERATORS.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
DIFFERENCE, A DIFFERENT
SITUATION THAN BRINGING BACK A
FACILITY THAT HAD BEEN IN USE.
>> SO THAT, EVERYBODY IS RIGHT,
THAT MAKES ME SO HAPPY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD,
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE SHAMROCK ON
THE SLIDE THERE.
REGARDING THE NOTE ON THE
BOTTOM.
REGARDING THE FACT THAT THE
SCHEDULE AND BUDGET WILL BE
UPDATED AFTER WE REACH THE
STAGE OF INTERMEDIATE DESIGN,
MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT WE ARE
ESTIMATING THAT THE STAGE AND
INTERMEDIATE DESIGN IS AROUND
JULY.
IS THAT RIGHT?
SO THAT WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CHECK THE SCHEDULE.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> LATE DESIGN, INTERMEDIATE IS
WHAT WE USED TO CALL 60%.
>> VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
>> AND JUST IN THE CONTEXT THAT
HEATHER IS ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT,
THAT WILL ALSO BE ONCE WE HAVE
THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD AND
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTIBILITY
AND HAVE A MUCH, YOU KNOW,
REALLY THE NEXT ITERATION OF
ANY CHANGES TO SCHEDULE BUDGET.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD
OURSELVES TO WHAT WE HAVE
TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF 30%.
>> SO, I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME
THAT WE SPOKE TO COUNCIL, WE
LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WOULD MOVE
FORWARD WITH A GENERAL
CONTRACTOR CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT APPROACH TO BUILDING
THIS BRIDGE REPAIR.
WE RELEASED THE REQUEST FOR
QUALIFICATIONS AND PROJECT
APPROACH ON MARCH 10th.
AND ARE EXPECTING THE PROPOSALS
WILL BE DUE IN ON APRIL 12.
IT WILL TAKE US A MONTH OR SO
TO DO THE INTERVIEWS THAT ARE
REQUIRED FOR US TO SELECT, TO
SELECT A CONTRACTOR.
THIS METHOD OF BRINGING THE
CONTRACTOR ON FOR DESIGN IS
FINISHED GIVES US BETTER
SCHEDULE PREDICTABILITY AND
MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GUARD
AGAINST CHANGE ORDERS AND ALSO
MAY PROVIDE SOME OPPORTUNITIES
FOR US TO SQUEEZE THE SCHEDULE.
I DON'T IN ANY WAY WANT TO
PROMISE THAT, BUT IT IS A GOOD
WAY FOR US TO ENSURE MORE
PROJECT ABILITY AND AVOID
CHANGE ORDERS DURING
CONSTRUCTION.
BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR IS SORT
OF WALKING WITH US THROUGH THE
REST OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
AND CAN FLAG ANY
CONSTRUCTIBILITY ISSUES OR
MATERIALS PROCUREMENT ISSUES
BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, THE FORT
MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE
SCHEDULE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO WITHIN THE RFQ P WE HAVE
INCLUDED OUR GOALS AND YOU CAN
TELL THEY ARE IMPORTANT,
BECAUSE WE INCLUDED THEM IN
THAT DOCUMENT.
WE OBVIOUSLY ARE COMMITTED TO
HONORING THE SCHEDULE
COMMITMENTS WE HAVE MADE TO THE
COMMUNITY.
WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE SAFETY FOR
THE WORKERS, COMMUNITY, AND
TRAVELING PUBLIC.
THAT IS ALWAYS AT THE TOP OF
THE LIST.
WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE OPEN
COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE PROJECT
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT MEANS THE CONTRACTOR IS
GOING TO HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO
ALLOW THE PRESS TO TAKE
PICTURES.
THEY WILL HAVE TO ALLOW THINGS
LIKE TOURERS WHEN IT IS SAFE TO
DO SO.
SO THAT IS A LOT OF WHAT THAT
IS ABOUT.
WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY ARE ON BOARD WITH THE
PROJECT TEAM AND STAKEHOLDERS
WITH BOTH DESIGN AND
CONSTRUCTION.
A LOT OF TIMES WE GET
CONTRACTORS ON BOARD AND THEY
JUST WANT TO BUILD IT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE WITH
THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE MADE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT
IT WAS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT
DURING THIS WHOLE PROGRAM.
WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
MINIMIZING THE IMPACT TO
STAKEHOLDERS ON THE PUBLIC.
AND IT PARTICULARLY OUR FRIENDS
AT PIGEON POINT AND WEST
MARGINAL WAY.
OUR GOAL WILL BE CONTINUING TO
REOPEN IN MID-2022.
NEXT SLIDE.
SO I LIKE A CHECKLIST AND SO
HERE YOU HAVE A CHECKLIST.
WE HAVE CHECKED THAT FOR
CIRCLE.
WE HAVE PUT OUT OUR CONTRACTOR
SOLICITATION.
THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO GET
THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD AND
THEN HIT FINAL DESIGN.
CONSTRUCTION IS LIKELY TO BEGIN
LATE THIS YEAR.
AND THEN CONSTRUCTION, LIKE I
SAID, WILL BE DONE IN THE
MIDDLE OF 2022.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
IMPORTANT TO S.D.O.T.
AND THE MAYOR, AS WE MOVE
FORWARD, TO CONTINUE TO INVEST
IN SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
NOT JUST FOR THE MITIGATION
EFFORTS AND THE SAFETY
INVESTMENTS THAT WE ARE MAKING
THROUGH RECONNECT WEST SEATTLE,
BUT ALSO SEEKING APPROVAL TO
USE A COMMUNITY WORKFORCE
AGREEMENT AND THE CITY'S HIRE
FOR THE PROJECT.
SPECIFICALLY ECONOMICALLY --
ZIP CODES.
WE DO NEED TO SEEK APPROVAL
FROM U.S. D.O.T.
AND HAVE HAD SEVERAL
CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM THAT
HAVE GONE VERY WELL.
WE EXPECT TO HAVE A DECISION
SOMETIME IN APRIL.
WE ALSO WILL INCLUDE
DISADVANTAGED BUSINESS
ENTERPRISE GOALS, THOSE GOALS
ARE SET TYPICALLY BY WATCHDOGS
AND ARE SET LATER ON IN THE
PROGRAM.
SAM, DID YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING ABOUT COMMUNITY
WORKFORCE?
>> NO, I THINK IT REMAINS A
COMMITMENT AND WORKING THROUGH,
AS HEATHER SAID, APPROVAL IS
NECESSARY TO KEEP THIS GOING.
>> OKAY.
THE LOW BRIDGE IS THE GIFT THAT
KEEPS ON GIVING.
IT IS A FINITE RESOURCE THAT
EVERYONE WANTS TO HAVE ACCESS
TO.
SO WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING
THAT EQUITABLY.
WE BEGAN IN JANUARY AUTOMATED
ENFORCEMENT.
SO, PRIVATE VEHICLES DRIVING ON
THE BRIDGE BETWEEN 5:00 A.M.
AND 9:00 P.M.
WILL BE FINED $75.00 PER TRIP.
UNLESS THEY ARE ALREADY ON A
PREAPPROVED LIST.
WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT HERE IN
THE SECOND.
SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE
PROGRAM WE HAVE GIVEN PRIORITY
ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES,
HEAVY FREIGHT, AND BUSES.
AND THEN WE HAVE WORKED WITH
THE MARITIME COMMUNITY TO
ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK ON
HARBOR ISLAND AND TERMINAL 5,
MEMBERS OF ILWU, ARE ABLE TO
ACCESS THAT ON EAST MARGINAL
WAY.
AGAIN, PRIVATE VEHICLES MAY USE
THE BRIDGE BETWEEN 9:00 P.M.
AND 5:00 A.M., THAT IS WHEN THE
VOLUMES ARE LOW ENOUGH THAT WE
CAN OPEN THE BRIDGE TO
EVERYONE.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE CONDUCTING
TARGETED OUTREACH TO THE
FORMING OF -- THE SPRING.
WITH THE INCLUSION OF BIPOC
BUSINESS , AND PEOPLE SEEKING
TREATMENTS.
WE EXPECT TO HAVE A TASK FOR IN
APRIL.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO, WE SENT SPENT A GREAT TIME
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
IS APPROPRIATE.
THIS IS A TREMENDOUS FACILITY
FOR THE PEOPLE OF WEST SEATTLE.
WE RECEIVED LOTS OF EMAILS AND
PHONE CALLS.
WE SEND OUT WEEKLY EMAIL
UPDATES TO 8600 PEOPLE.
WE HAVE POSTED 92 BLOG
POSTINGS.
WE HAVE HAD TWICE THE NUMBER OF
BLOG VIEWS SINCE WE CLOSED THE
BRIDGE, AS WE DID BEFORE THAT.
WE HAVE DONE MANY, MANY
INTERVIEWS AND RESPONSES TO
MEDIA REQUESTS AND I THINK WE
HAVE MET WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY
STAKEHOLDER GROUP.
SOME OF THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE ALSO MEET MONTHLY WITH THREE
ADVISORY GROUPS, INCLUDING THE
COMMUNITY TASK FORCE, EMPLOYER
RESOURCE GROUP, A GROUP OF
LARGE EMPLOYERS WE WANT TO
ENCOURAGE TO DO THINGS LIKE USE
A SHUTTLE TO GET THERE FOLKS TO
WORK, ONCE THINGS START OPENING
UP.
ALSO A MONTHLY MARITIME TOWN
HALL WHERE WE KEEP THE
INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY UPDATED ON
WHAT IS HAPPENING.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, RECONNECT SEATTLE IS A VERY
IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
WE UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND,
BECAUSE I LIVE HERE IN WEST
SEATTLE, HOW IMPORTANT THE
BRIDGE IS TO ALL OF THE ACCESS
NEEDS.
IN THE REST OF THE CITY.
AND REGION.
OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR SIMILAR LEVELS
OF TRAVEL ACROSS THE --.
THAT OF COURSE MEANS A
SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN MOOD.
WE HAVE A MAP THAT IS PUBLICLY
AVAILABLE.
THERE IS THE LINK RIGHT THERE.
THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE PROJECTS
THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
IN 2020 WE COMPLETED ALL 22
PROJECTS THAT WE PROMISE TO THE
COMMUNITY.
AND IN 2021 WE ARE LOOKING
FORWARD TO DELIVER 31 PROJECTS
THAT ARE FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
RIGHT NOW, UNTIL THE END OF
THIS MONTH, WE ARE CONTINUING
TO COLLECT INPUT FROM THE
COMMUNITY FOR PROJECTS THAT WE
WILL CONSTRUCT IN EARLY 2022.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, WE ARE LEVERAGING UP TO 150
MILLION OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL
COMMITMENT.
YOU ALL KNOW VERY WELL WE HAVE
SECURED 100 MILLION OF THAT AND
50 MILLION IS UNSECURED.
WE HAVE SPENT $31 MILLION TO
DATE ON THE STABILIZATION AND
EMERGENCY REPAIRS, AS WELL AS
TRAFFIC MITIGATION EFFORTS I
WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
PARTNERING WITH WASHINGTON
STATE, THE PORT OF SEATTLE, AND
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.
ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE
WORK WITH RECOGNIZE THE LOAD
LOCAL, AND REGIONAL NEED FOR
THE BRIDGE.
IT IS NOT A TOUGH SELL.
WE ARE SEEKING ADDITIONAL
FEDERAL FUNDING, INCLUDING THE
15.9 MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANTS.
AND WE ARE RIGHT NOW ENGAGED IN
PUTTING FINISHING TOUCHES ON OUR
U.S. D.O.T.
INTRO GRANT APPLICATION.
WHICH IS DUE HERE IN TWO DAYS.
NEXT SLIDE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CITY
COUNCIL, FOR YOUR LETTERS OF
SUPPORT.
THAT WAS GREAT.
WE ARE REQUESTING BETWEEN 17
AND $21 MILLION, THE ACTUAL
AMOUNT DEPENDS ON DETAILS ON
WHICH COSTS ARE REIMBURSABLE,
AND WHICH ARE NOT.
WE FEEL THAT THE APPLICATION
FITS REALLY NICELY INTO THE SIX
OBJECTIVES.
AND SO, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD
TO BEING VERY COMPETITIVE.
IN THAT PROCESS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE THE
ORDER IT'S BEFORE YOU.
GOOD.
THAT AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE
OF THAT PS RC ALLOCATION OF $14
MILLION.
THIS INCLUDES 6.9 THAT WE
PREVIOUSLY GOT BUT ARE NOW
REALLOCATING TO THE REPAIR
PROJECT.
AS WELL AS $7.5 MILLION OF HIP
FUNDS.
THIS WILL BE A $12.4 MILLION
NET ADD TO THE CIP.
NEXT SLIDE.
OKAY.
I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THAT.
YES.
WE WILL ROLL TO THE NEXT ITEM,
WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE PS
RC FUNDING.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL
PRESIDENT GONZALEZ FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP IN HELPING SECURE
THE REGIONAL FUNDS.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE WHOLE
CITY COUNCIL JUMPED IN
IMMEDIATELY TO WRITE THE
SUPPORT LETTERS, SUPPORT THE
LETTERS FOR THE GRANT FROM THE
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION.
SO, LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED
ANYTHING WITHOUT.
IT IS GREAT TO GET EVERYBODY
RECOGNIZING THIS AS A REGIONAL
STATEWIDE, NATIONAL ISSUE WITH
THE PORT THERE AS WELL.
SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON
THIS AND THIS OVERVIEW, FOR
EVERYBODY.
AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
SO TO PUT INTO CONTEXT, THE
GRANT WE ARE ABOUT TO APPROVE.
I WILL, LET US GO AHEAD AND
ROLL INTO THE ITEM.
THE APPROVAL OF THE GRANT.
THAT WE CAN HAVE THE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS AND GO BACK TO THE
SLIDE DECK IF WE NEED TO.
BUT FOR PARLIAMENTARY TEACHER
REASON, LET'S HAVE THE CLERK
READ THE SHORT TITLE OF THE
NEXT AGENDA ITEM INTO THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 4, CB120017.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO GRANT
FUNDS FROM NON-CITY SOURCES;
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION TO ACCEPT
SPECIFIED GRANTS AND EXECUTE
RELATED AGREEMENTS FOR AND ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY; AMENDING
ORDINANCE 126237, WHICH ADOPTED
THE 2021 BUDGET, INCLUDING THE
2021-2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM (CIP); CHANGING
APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPOTATION;
REVISING ALLOCATIONS AND
SPENDING PLANS FOR CERTAIN
PROJECTS IN THE 2021-2026 CIP;
AND RATIFYING AND CONFIRMING
CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS.
FOR BRIEFING DISCUSSION, AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> EXCELLENT.
SO, CALVIN, DID YOU WANT TO
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
SPECIFIC GRANT?
OR SHOULD WE TURN IT OVER TO
S.D.O.T.
? OR BOTH?
>> I THINK IT IS A FAIRLY
SIMPLE GRANT ORDINANCE, SO I
WILL TURN IT OVER AT THIS TIME.
>> OKAY.
SO WE HAD YOUR LAST SLIDE ON
THE POWERPOINT TALKING ABOUT
THIS.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD
ABOUT THE GRANT BEFORE WE OPEN
UP TO THE COUNCIL?
AND YOU ARE ON MUTE, HEATHER.
>> SORRY.
I WAS TRYING TO PRACTICE GOOD
ZOOM HYGIENE.
I AM AFRAID THAT I HAVE TO
AGREE WITH CALVIN.
IT IS STRAIGHTFORWARD BUT I AM
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT
FOLKS HAVE.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY
QUESTIONS ON ACCEPTANCE OF THIS
GRANT FROM THE PUGET SOUND
REGIONAL COUNCIL MARK AGAIN
THINKING MEMBER, COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ, AND IF I BELIEVE
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ HELPED AS
WELL.
ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE.
>> NO QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO ECHO MY THANKS
AS WELL.
BOTH TO S.D.O.T.
, AS WELL AS THE PS RC
EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBERS.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ, AS
WELL AS YOURSELF.
CHAIR.
AND, OF COURSE, MAYOR DURKAN AND
I BELIEVE ALSO THERE IS A
THANKS THAT GOES TO
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, AS THE
WORK FOCUSED ON THE
TRANSPORTATION POLICY ADVISORY
BOARD AS WELL.
SO, MANY THANKS TO GO AROUND.
THIS MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO
GET US STARTED IN RECEIVING SOME
FUNDS FROM OUR PARTNERS.
SO, THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT.
OKAY.
AND I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ WOULD BE HAPPY WE ARE
THINKING EVERYBODY.
SHE LOVES IT WHEN WE DO THAT.
AND WE SHOULD ALSO THANK THE
OTHER MEMBERS OF PS RC WHO ARE
NOT FROM SEATTLE BUT'S WAITED BY
THE ARGUMENTS MADE FROM
COUNCILMEMBERS GONZALEZ AND
JUAREZ.
>> A REGIONAL INVESTMENT!
>> GREAT!
WE HAVE GOT A ROLL NOW.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, PLEASE.
>> I MAY BE STEALING HEATHER
MARX 'S THUNDER, SHE IS COMING
AFTER ME BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT
THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE IS SUCH
AN IMPORTANT REGIONAL
CONNECTION.
IF YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE TRYING
TO GET FROM SILVERDALE, OR
SHOULD I SAY SOUTH WHARF, TO
COVINGTON, YOU HAVE TO USE THE
WEST SEATTLEBRIDGE.
IT IS JUST, IT CONNECTS THE
ENTIRE KIT SAP PENINSULA TO SO
MANY POINTS NORTH AND EAST OF
WEST SEATTLE.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, FOR WHAT
THEY HAVE DONE.
>> HEATHER, DID YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING?
>> YES, WE ARE ALL FEELING GOOD
THINKING EACH OTHER, I THOUGHT
OF COURSE, THANKS ALWAYS DUE TO
THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS THEY
SUPPORT THE EFFORTS.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO RAISE UP
JIM AND JOANNA, WITHIN
COUNCILMEMBER.
-- S.D.O.T.
. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO, IT
WAS A VERY HEAVY LIFT TO GET
THESE FUNDS.
SO THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THE WAY
THE PS RC WORKS BOTH
TECHNICALLY AND POLITICALLY,
CREATED THE CONDITIONS UNDER
WHICH WE COULD CALL UPON THE
HELP.
OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO
BRING IT HOME.
SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO JIM
AND JOANNA TOO.
>> THANK YOU FOR RAISING UP THE
WORK OF THE STAFF.
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ.
>> I JUST WANTED TO THANK
HEATHER FOR THAT.
THE WORK THAT ALLOWED US TO
PERSUADE THE OTHER ELECTED
OFFICIALS, AT THE PS RC, WAS
REALLY SHEPHERDED BY THE STAFF.
AND A LOT OF THE CREDIT GOES TO
GOOD SOLID STAFF WORK.
THAT ALLOWED US TO FIND A
CONSENSUS APPROACH TO THE GRANT
WE ARE ABOUT TO ACCEPT, AND
THERE WERE CONCESSIONS MADE BY
US AND CONCESSIONS MADE BY
SUBURBAN CITIES, ALSO MEMBERS
OF THE PUGET SOUND POLICY
BOARD, THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT.
BUT I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY
THAT THE CONCESSIONS WERE MADE
IN THE CONTEXT OF UNDERSTANDING
THAT THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE IS
CRUCIAL TO OUR REGIONAL
MOBILITY AND FRAME MOBILITY AS
WELL.
SO A LOT OF GOOD WORK HERE AND
LOOK FORWARD TO ONGOING
NECESSARY WORK THAT IS GOING TO
BE NEEDED TO CONTINUE TO SECURE
FUNDING FOR THIS IMPORTANT
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
AND WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBERS,
I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION; AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
FOR THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT
AIDED DISPATCH.
FOUR, ITEM 4 ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
MOVED AND SECONDED TO PASSAGE
OF THE BILL.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE THAT AN ORDINANCE RELATING
T SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION; AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
FOR THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT
AIDED DISPATCH.
FOUR BE APPROVED BEFORE
FORWARDING TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
>> GONZALEZ
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD
>> YES.
>> MORALES'S .
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> MOTION CARRIES AND THE
RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT WILL
BE SENT TO THE MARCH 22nd CITY
COUNCIL MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU EVERYBODY
FROM S.D.O.T.
.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ
THE TITLE OF THE NEXT AGENDA
ITEM INTO RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM 5, CB 120002.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION; AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS FOR
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
CURRENT DIVERSION TECHNOLOGIES.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES, WE NOW CONTINUE OUR
DISCUSSION OF THE SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORTS, TO FULFILL OUR
ROLE UNDER THE 2017 AND 2018
SURVEILLANCE ORDINATES.
SEATTLE HAS ONE OF THE
STRONGEST REVIEW PROCESSES IN
THE COUNTRY FOR TECHNOLOGY THAT
COULD BE USED FOR SURVEILLANCE,
THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ AND OTHERS THAT --
THOSE.
AS YOU REMEMBER BACK IN JANUARY
OF 2020, FOR NINE OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES, EXISTING
TECHNOLOGIES, INTRODUCED
FEBRUARY 22nd, ON THE REFERRAL
CALENDAR.
WE HEARD FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS
AND CENTRAL STAFF AT THE
COMMITTEE TWO WEEKS AGO ON
MARCH 3rd.
ON MARCH 17th, I AM CONFIDENT
WE CAN VOTE ON THIS ITEM.
WHICH IS FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
TECHNOLOGY.
AND ALSO HOPEFUL FOR THE SEATTLE
FIRE DEPARTMENT ITEM, THE NEXT
ON THE AGENDA.
REGARDING THE REPORTS ON THE
SPD TECHNOLOGIES, WE CAN START
TODAY TO EXPLORE POTENTIAL
FUTURE AMENDMENTS AND BRING
THOSE BACK FOR A THIRD
COMMITTEE MEETING FOR JUST THE
SPD TECHNOLOGIES ON APRIL 7th,
THE COMMITTEE TO VOTE ON THOSE.
JUST A REMINDER THAT WE ALSO
HAVE THE GROUP 3 AND GROUP 4
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT COMING SOON
TO COMMITTEE.
SO HOPEFULLY THIS COMMITTEE IS
GETTING EVERYONE COMMITTED WHAT
IS GOING ON AND APPROVING THE
--.
WITH FURTHER REVIEW.
I WANT TO THANK ALL VOLUNTEERS
ON THE SURVEILLANCE WORKING
GROUP.
THE GOOD NEWS FROM AN
ACCOUNTABILITY PERSPECTIVE IS
THAT IT IS NOT OVER EVEN AFTER
COUNCIL APPROVES THE
ORDINANCES.
BECAUSE THEN THE CITY AUDITOR
AND THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR
GENERAL WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW
THE TECHNOLOGIES AFTER WE
APPROVE THE REPORTS.
SO WE ARE STARTING WITH SEATTLE
CITY LIGHTS REPORT FOR A COUPLE
TECHNOLOGIES.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT
OVER TO OUR CENTRAL STAFF
ANALYST, LISE KAYE, WHO HAS
BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THESE
FOR OVER A YEAR.
WE ALSO HAVE GOT INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT HERE WITH
US, AND WE HAVE, WE MAY HAVE
SOMEBODY FROM CITY LIGHT AS
WELL.
LET ME TURN IT OVER TO LISE
KAYE FROM CENTRAL STAFF FOR
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE AMENDMENT
THAT WE WILL MOVE ON THIS
ORDINANCE AS WELL.
SO, LISE KAYE, DID YOU WANT TO
HELP US CONTINUE SETTING THE
TABLE?
>> TEALIKE COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
I AM LISE KAYE K AND IS CHAIR
PEDERSEN SAID, THE COUNCIL
BILL BEFORE YOU WOULD CONTINUE
THE CURRENT, THE REPORT.
I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I
HAVE UPDATED MY STAFF MEMO FROM
LAST WEEK AND NOTIFIED YOU ALL
THAT THE ORDINANCES WOULD
ACCEPT THE EXECUTIVE OVERVIEWS.
SO I HAD THOUGHT THE AMENDMENT
MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO DO THAT,
BUT THEY ARE STRUCTURED IN SUCH
A WAY, THE ORDINANCES ARE
STRUCTURED TO ACCEPT THOSE.
AS REMEMBER THE EXECUTIVE
OVERVIEWS IDENTIFIED THE
ENFORCEABLE POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES APPLICABLE TO THE
TECHNOLOGIES IN EACH OF THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS.
I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN IF YOU
WANT, COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN,
AND WALK THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS
ON THE TABLE IF YOU WANT, FOR
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION; AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
FOR THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT'S USE OF COMPUTER
AIDED DISPATCH.
SIX.
OR I CAN DO THEM ONE AT A TIME.
HOW DO YOU PREFER?
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL
TO LOOK AT THE AMENDMENTS, I
BELIEVE IS TECHNICAL
DIRECTIONS, AND THE OTHER,
THOSE ARE THE THE TWO.
PLEASE.
>> OKAY.
SO THE FIRST AMENDMENT ON THE
TABLE TO CB 120002 WOULD MAKE
THE IMPACT REPORTS FOR THE
THREE CURRENT TECHNOLOGIES.
BINOCULARS, CHECK METER DEVICES
AND THE SENSOR.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THESE
ARE FOR THESE THREE AND OUR
TECHNICAL EVIDENCE AND THE
AMENDMENT IS SPONSORED BY CHAIR
PEDERSEN.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO TO THE
NEXT ONE?
OR DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THAT ONE, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
WHAT'S GO TO THE NEXT AND THEN
WE WILL HEAR IF INFORMATION-
TECHNOLOGY WANTS TO SAY
ANYTHING AND IF SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING, WE
WILL CIRCLE BACK TO THESE AS
WELL.
>> OKAY.
OKAY.
SO AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, ONE OF
THE SERIES OF AMENDMENTS.
YOU WILL SEE BOTH ONE AND TWO
REPEAT FOR THE THREE COUNCIL
BILLS.
MAKING FOR TECHNICAL
CORRECTIONS AND THEN THIS
AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BASICALLY
BE REQUESTING A REPORT ON THE
METRICS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
USED AS PART OF THE CHIEF
TECHNOLOGY EXPERT. WE CALL
THOSE REQUESTED AS PART OF THE
EQUITY TOOLKIT IN AGE, BUT IF
NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET.
SO ASKING ONCE THOSE ARE
COMPLETED, AND PROVIDED, NO
LATER THAN THE THIRD QUARTER OF
2021, THE DEPARTMENT WOULD
SUBMIT BASICALLY TO THE CLERK,
FILE A REPORT ON WHAT THE
METRICS WERE.
SO THIS AMENDMENT IS SPONSORED
BY CHAIR PEDERSEN AND YOU CAN
SEE THE LANGUAGE.
I WILL SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT
TO SEE THE NEW SECTION TOO,
SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ASKING FOR
THE REPORT BY THE THIRD QUARTER
OF 2021.
>> THANK YOU.
AND I WILL MAKE THE MOTIONS TO
PUT THE BILL ON THE TABLE AND
THEN TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS IN
ORDER, AMENDMENT ONE, AMENDMENT
TO.
BEFORE I START THAT PROCEDURE,
ARE THERE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS
FROM I.T.
DEPARTMENT OR SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO
QUESTIONS?
>> NO COMMENTS FROM I.T.
>> OKAY.
>> NO COMMENTS FROM CITY LIGHT.
>> LET ME GO AHEAD AND MOVE
JUST TO GET THE BILL ON THE
TABLE OFFICIALLY.
THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR
QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMEMBERS, I MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND BILL OF CB
120002, ITEM 5 ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
FOR THE PASSAGE OF THIS BILL.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND, ARE THERE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UNDERLYING
BILL THAT WE HAVE FOR EITHER
CENTRAL STAFF OR I.T.
OR CITY LIGHT, BEFORE I MOVE
THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENT ONE AND
THEN AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO.
AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN ASK THE
QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME DURING
THE PROCESS.
I AM JUST OPENING UP IF THERE
ARE GENERAL UNDERLYING
QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO THE
AMENDMENTS.
OKAY.
>> CHAIR, I MAY HAVE QUESTIONS.
BUT I WAS SAVING THEM UNTIL
AFTER WE CONSIDERED THE
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS.
SO I WILL PULL UP MY NOTES
WHILE WE CONSIDERED THE
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS.
>> YES, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
SO LET'S TRY TO AMEND THE BILL
WITH THESE TWO AMENDMENTS AND
THEN WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BILL AS
AMENDED.
LET ME SEE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL CB
120002 AS PRESENTED AS
AMENDMENT ONE ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND THE
BILL AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT
ONE.
AND, SO, LISE KAYE HAS
PRESENTED THIS TO US, ARE THERE
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON
THIS THAT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED, THIS AMENDMENT?
LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE
ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES..
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
OKAY, MOTION PASSES TO ACCEPT
MOMENT INTO THIS COUNCIL BILL.
I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND CB 120002
AS PRESENTED IN AMENDMENT TWO
ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
MOVED AND SECONDED AS PRESENTED
ON AMENDMENT TWO.
LISE KAYE HAS DISCUSSED THIS
AMENDMENT, IT IS THERE ON THE
SCREEN FOR US.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON
AMENDMENT TWO BEFORE WE AMEND
THE UNDERLYING BILL TO
INCORPORATE THIS?
OKAY, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CALL
THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT TWO AND
THEN HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE
AMENDMENT BILL AFTER THIS
MOTION GOES THROUGH.
WILL BE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT TWO?
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO.
LET'S OPEN THIS UP NOW FOR
DISCUSSION ON THE BILL AS
AMENDED.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ?
>> MY SYSTEM IS A LITTLE SLOW
HERE.
WHICH IS ODD, BECAUSE I AM IN
THE OFFICE.
BUT I AM GETTING THE LITTLE
SNAIL ON MY DESKTOP HERE.
SO, REALLY QUICKLY, THE CB
120002, I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT I HAVE A CLEAR
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS
INCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR
COUNCIL BILL.
I RECOGNIZE LISE KAYE TALKED
ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF
YOU COULD JUST SORT OF REORIENT
US, NOW THAT WE HAVE CONSIDERED
THE AMENDMENT, IF YOU COULD
JUST DESCRIBE QUICKLY, WHAT CB
120002 , WHAT TECHNOLOGIES AND
WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE INCLUDED
IN THIS PARTICULAR BILL.
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT,
COUNCILMEMBER.
SO, CB 120002 IS FOR THREE
CITY LIGHT TECHNOLOGIES, ALL
PERTAINING TO CHECKING ON
CURRENT ISSUES.
BASICALLY ELECTRICITY STAFFED.
SO A PARTICULAR TEAM WITHIN
CITY LIGHT USES THESE THREE
TECHNOLOGIES TOGETHER, THE
BINOCULARS, CHECK METER DEVICE
AND THE -- TO BASICALLY
INVESTIGATE POTENTIAL CASES OF
ELECTRICITY THEFT.
AND SO ADOPTING THIS BILL
BEFORE YOU, WOULD APPROVE THE
CONTINUED USE OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVE BEEN IN
PLAY FOR SOME TIME.
I BELIEVE SOME ARE BEING
UPDATED AND WE WILL PROBABLY
GET A REVISE IN THE NEXT YEAR
TO OR TWO, BECAUSE I THINK THE
CHECK METER DEVICE IN PARTICULAR
IS MAY BE REPLACED BY SOMETHING
MORE TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED.
IN ANY CASE, THIS WOULD APPROVE
THESE THREE TECHNOLOGIES AND
WOULD ACCEPT THE REPORTS FOR
THOSE AND ALSO THE OVERVIEW OF
THOSE, WHICH CATALOGS THE
ENFORCEABLE POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES, PERTAINING TO ALL
OF THOSE.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT
ELECTRICITY THEFT, CAN YOU JUST
TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
HOW THIS INFORMATION WILL BE
UTILIZED IN THE CONTEXT OF
ELECTRICITY THEFT AS YOU
CHARACTERIZED IT.
>> I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO
MICHELLE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I CAN SPEAK TO MY UNDERSTANDING
OF HOW IT PLAYS OUT, MY
UNDERSTANDING, BUT I THINK SHE
WILL HAVE MORE SPECIFIC AND
ACCURATE DEFINITIONS OF HOW
THEY ARE ACTUALLY EMPLOYED IN
THE FIELD.
>> WHOMEVER IS THE APPROPRIATE
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IS
WELCOME TO ANSWER MY QUESTION.
>> OKAY.
I THINK MICHELLE VARGO IS ON
THE LINE.
MOIRA IS ALSO ON THE LINE.
>> GOOD MORNING.
CAN I DO A QUICK CHECK?
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> CAN YOU SPEAK UP?
>> WE CAN.
>> OKAY.
I AM JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.
IS THIS BETTER?
>> YES.
>> OKAY.
EXCELLENT.
SORRY.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
ELECTRICITY THEFT, IN MANY CASES
THIS WOULD COME IN AS A SAFETY
ISSUE.
WE MIGHT NOTICE THAT IT SEEMS
LIKE THE METER WAS TEMPERED FOR
WHATEVER REASON.
SO WE MIGHT WANT TO TRY TO
INVESTIGATE THAT SITE TO MAKE
SURE HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY IS
GOING TO THE SITE.
THEN DETERMINE MAYBE HOW THE
SYSTEM WAS TEMPERED WITH.
IN OTHER CASES YOU MIGHT JUST
WANT TO SEE HOW MUCH
ELECTRICITY IS FLOWING THROUGH
AND IF IT WAS TEMPERED BUT
MIGHT NOT PREVENT A SAFETY
ISSUE FROM SOMEONE JUST PASSING
BY WAS ABLE TO PICK UP ON AND
REPORT.
SO, THESE TECHNOLOGIES HAS A
ONE, THE BINOCULARS, PRETTY
SELF-EXPLANATORY.
WOULD JUST BE TRYING TO OBSERVE
IF THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE ON
THE METER OR SOME EQUIPMENT
TAMPERED WITH.
THEY ARE NOT TAKING PICTURES OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WITH THE OTHER
TECHNOLOGIES, THEY REALLY ARE
JUST REPORTING.
REPORTING ON ELECTRICITY FLOW.
SO THEY DON'T ACTUALLY CARRY ANY
CUSTOMER DATA ON THEM.
THE ELECTRICIANS GO OUT, THEY
MONITOR THE CABLE THAT IS GOING
TO THE RESIDENT OR WHAT IT
MIGHT BE.
IT TAKES A READING.
THEN WE DOCUMENT THE READING ON
OUR COMPUTERS.
THAT IS HOW WE USE THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES AND MAKE A
DETERMINATION IF THIS DOES NOT
SEEM IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE WAY
THE ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION WAS
MEANT TO BE.
OR IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL SAFETY
HAZARD THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS
TO THE PUBLIC.
>> THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
DOES THIS ACTUALLY REFER TO THE
ELECTRICITY THEFT?
AS A CONCEPT AT ALL.
I AM LOOKING AT THE COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF MEMO DRAFTED BY
LISE KAYE AND IT LOOKS LIKE
THE ISSUE AROUND, YOU KNOW,
IDENTIFYING THE ELECTRICITY
THEFT WAS NOT WRITTEN ABOUT IN
THE MEMORANDUM.
SO I AM WONDERING IF THE ISSUE
WAS FLAGGED OR AT ALL ADDRESSED
IN THE CONTEXT OF IT?
>> I CAN ANSWER HOW WE CRAFTED
IT.
IT WAS PUT TO US, THIS IS PART
OF CURRENT DIVERSION
INVESTIGATION.
WHICH CAN HAPPEN FOR A VARIETY
OF REASONS.
>> GOT IT.
>> DAMAGED EQUIPMENT, SOMETHING
IS HAPPENING.
I DON'T THINK IT IS ALWAYS THE
ASSUMPTION THAT IT IS A THEFT
SITUATION, ALTHOUGH THAT IS A
SCENARIO.
DOES THAT HELP?
>> YES.
THE TERMINOLOGY BEING USED IS
DIVERSION BUT WITHIN THE
CONCEPT OF DIVERSION,
ELECTRICITY THEFT IS PART OF
THAT.
>> COULD BE PART OF THE REASON.
COULD BE.
>> OKAY.
IN THE INSTANCES, I AM FOCUSING
ON THEFT.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND GET
TO THE POINT HERE, IS THE
PURPOSE OF THAT FOR ENFORCEMENT?
IF SO, WHAT KINDS OF
ENFORCEMENT ARE GOING, WHAT
KIND OF ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS ARE
GOING TO BE TRIGGERED IF, FOR
EXAMPLE, SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
CONFIRMS THAT THERE HAS BEEN
ELECTRICITY THEFT.
>> SO, IN SOME CASES WE
ACTUALLY WORK IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON
SOME ISSUES.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE NEFARIOUS
SITUATIONS.
I DO THINK THERE IS CURRENT
DIVERSION THAT HAPPENS JUST
BECAUSE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS
NOT HAPPENING CORRECTLY.
IN THOSE CASES IT STARTS A
CONVERSATION WITH A CUSTOMER
ABOUT JUST THE BILL.
I THINK IT CAN TAKE A COUPLE
DIFFERENT PATHS, BUT I DO THINK
THAT IF THERE IS SOMEONE
PURPOSELY STEALING ELECTRICITY,
WE WILL STILL HAVE A
CONVERSATION TO RECOVER THE
FUNDS.
AND MOST OF THIS IS ADDRESSED
IN SMC AND DEPARTMENT POLICIES.
THEY NEED TO BE UPDATED, JUST
BECAUSE AS IT WAS POINTED OUT
IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, WE DO
HAVE OUR ADVANCED METER
TECHNOLOGY NOW.
THOSE ARE GOING TO PLAY A ROLE
IN REDUCING OUR NEEDS FOR THE
TECHNOLOGIES.
BECAUSE THE METERS TO GIVE THE
ABILITY TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES
SOONER.
AND SO THEREFORE NOT LETTING A
PROLONGED DURATION OF THE
OCCURRENCE TAKE PLACE AND THEN
CATCHING UP WITH THE BILLING I
WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW PRETTY
SOON, OR ONCE THE THEFT IS
OCCURRING OR THE DIVERSION IS
OCCURRING.
>> AND THIS IS, --, I WANT TO
REVIEW THE INFORMATION
SPECIFICALLY TAKEN ABOUT DATA
SHARING.
SPECIFICALLY DATA LOGGING OR
REQUEST FOR DATA RELATED TO
ENFORCEMENT.
WHEN A REPORT IS SENT IN
CONJUNCTION WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT, IT DOES NOT
INCLUDE ANY CONSUMPTION
INFORMATION.
THIS IS PER THIS AND THE
DEPARTMENT POLICY.
LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD HAVE TO
SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC
RECORDS, IF THEY NEED THAT
SUPPORT IN THE INVESTIGATION.
BUT THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED
PURSUANT TO A SUBPOENA OR THE
REQUEST WITH THE PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE LAW.
WHEN THEY REQUIRE EVIDENCE, FOR
FURTHER PROCEEDINGS AND
AGGRAVATED CASES, WHEN LARGE
SUMS OF ENERGY HAVE BEEN STOLEN
OR A SAFETY RISK TO PUBLIC.
THERE IS THE EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW
TO OUTLINE THE SITUATIONS IN
WHICH SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
PARTICIPANTS WILL ASSIST LAW
ENFORCEMENT WITH THESE TYPES OF
REQUESTS.
>> YOU WERE ANTICIPATING MY
NEXT QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR DOING A. SO YOU
ARE REFERRING TO ATTACHMENT
FOUR ON THE AGENDA.
WHICH IS TITLED CURRENT
DIVERSION TECHNOLOGIES
EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW.
AND I SEE SOME INFORMATION ON
PAGE, SOME INFORMATION ON PAGE
3. THAT I THINK THE DATA SHARED
AND INACCURACY IS PRIMARILY
SHARED ON PAGE 4, WHERE IT SAYS
QUOTE, DATA IS ELECTED AND
MAINTAINED FOR SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT USE AND MAY ONLY BE
SHARED WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES
FOR THE PURPOSES OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT OR LEGAL ACTION BY
THE RELEVANT JURISDICTIONAL
AUTHORITY.
THE POLICY IS FORMALLY LAID OUT
IN THE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
PROCEDURE, ETC.
SO I JUST WANT TO REALLY HONE
IN ON THIS.
THIS CONCEPT.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
SO, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I
UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M READING
HERE.
IN THE INSTANCE IN WHICH LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS DOING THE
INVESTIGATION, THEN THEY WOULD
HAVE TO THINK OF GOING TO
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT UNDER THE
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE LAW TO
REQUEST POWER RECORDS.
OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A
SUBPOENA THAT IS BASED ON
PROBABLE CAUSE CONSISTENT WITH
WASHINGTON PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
LAW.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU ARE NOT
GOING TO BE TIPPING OFF THE
SEATTLE PD THAT THERE MIGHT BE
ELECTRICITY THEFT ISSUES.
IT IS THE STREET RUNS THE OTHER
WAY.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
CORRECTLY?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON
THIS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS FOR THIS TECHNOLOGY?
ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF ADOPTING
THE ORDINANCE HERE, IT DOES
INCORPORATE THAT EXECUTIVE
OVERVIEW INTO THE POLICY.
THAT IS HELPFUL.
I AM LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE
ARE OTHER QUESTIONS.
I DO NOT SEE ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR
BILL AS AMENDED.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND I ASKED
THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL
BILL CB 120002 PASS AS AMENDED.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AN THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION PASS
AS AMENDED WILL BE SENT TO THE
MARCH 22nd CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION.
ALL RIGHT, WILL BE CLERK PLEASE
READ THE TITLE OF THE NEXT
AGENDA ITEM INTO THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM 6. CB 120003.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION; AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
FOR THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT'S USE OF COMPUTER
AIDED DISPATCH.
>> FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION,
AND POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
AND COUNCILMEMBERS WE HAVE
HEARD THIS ITEM 2 WEEKS AGO,
AND IT WILL BE GREAT TO GET A
REFRESHER FROM OUR CENTRAL
STAFF, LISE KAYE, IF YOU DON'T
MIND.
AND WE HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
HERE, EVAN WARD IS HERE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT.
WE APPRECIATE THEM CONTINUALLY
COMING BACK AND SHARING
EXPERTISE WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY.
LISE KAYE, IF YOU DON'T MIND
GIVING US AN OVERVIEW OF THIS
COUNCIL BILL, AND THE AMENDMENT
SIMILAR TO THE ONES WE JUST
PASSED.
>> THANK YOU.
I WOULD BE HAPPY.
CB 120003 WOULD APPROVE THE
CONTINUED USE OF THE DISPATCH
TECHNOLOGY.
AND IT WOULD EXCEPT THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT IN
THE EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW'S.
SO WHEN EVAN WARD, I BELIEVE IS
ON THE LINE FROM FIRE ALSO, BUT
WHEN THE SOFTWARE IS USED TO
ADVISE DISPATCHERS AS TO
SPECIFIC UNITS AND RESOURCES
THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO TAP TO
AND SENT OUT IN A RESPONSIBLE
CALL.
THEY WILL TELL THEM IF THEY
NEED A SPECIFIC FIRETRUCK OR
APPARATUS FROM A PARTICULAR
STATION CLOSEST TO THE CALL.
THEY WILL TELL THEM IF THEY
NEED TO HAVE EMTS RESPONDING.
BASED ON THE REPORTED PROBLEM
AND LOCATION OF THE CALLER.
SO IT IS REALLY TECHNOLOGY THAT
HELPS THE DISPATCHERS, THE
PEOPLE ANSWERING THE PHONES,
AND ORGANIZING THE RESPONSE TO
THE 911 CALLS.
>> THANK YOU.
AND WOULD YOU MIND GOING
THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS JUST
WALKING US THROUGH THE THREE
AMENDMENTS?
THERE IS A THIRD AMENDMENT AND
I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD FOR PUTTING HER
AMENDMENT ON THE RETENTION TIME.
LISE KAYE, IF YOU DON'T MIND
PLEASE GOING THROUGH THOSE
THREE THEN WE WILL START WITH
THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE TO
GET THE AMENDMENT BILL ON THE
TABLE.
>> AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO
BASICALLY PARALLEL THE SAME
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU LOOKED AT
FOR CB 120002.
AMENDMENT ONE MAKES THE
TECHNICAL CHANGES, REMOVING A
DRAFT WATERMARK.
PRETTY MINOR.
THIS IS SPONSORED BY CHAIR
PEDERSEN . AND THEN AMENDMENT
TWO IS AGAIN THE AMENDMENT WITH
THE PREVIOUS BILL THAT WAS
REQUESTING THE REPORT ON THE
EQUITY METRICS FOR THE DISPATCH.
THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE
CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER TO USE
IN HIS ANNUAL EQUITY
ASSESSMENT.
AND THAT REPORT WOULD BE DUE BY
THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER OF
2021.
THIS IS ALSO SPONSORED BY CHAIR
PEDERSEN.
THE THIRD AMENDMENT, LET ME
JUST MOVE THIS DOWN ONE.
AS COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN SAID,
THIS IS SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, AND
WOULD ASK THAT THEY WORK MORE
CLOSELY TO THE STATE RETENTION
SCHEDULE.
CURRENTLY THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT KEEPS THE DISPATCH
RECORDS FOR THE LIFE OF THE CAD
SYSTEM AND THAT GOES BEYOND
WHAT THE STATE RETENTION
POLICIES RECALL FOR, WHICH
REQUIRES A MINIMUM RETENTION OF
SIX YEARS FOR FIRE INCIDENT
REPORTS, AND THREE YEARS OF
COMPUTER DISPATCHING UPDATE. IS
AMENDMENT HAS STRUCTURED WITH
SECTION TWO, BASICALLY ASKING
FIRE TO REPORT NO LATER THAN
THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER
2021 ON A REVISED RECORDS
RETENTION SCHEDULE THAT WOULD
MOVE WERE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH
WHAT THE STATE IS CALLING FOR.
AND JENNIFER FROM THE CITY
RECORDS MANAGER, WOULD WORK
WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON
RESPONDING TO THE REQUEST.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE OVERVIEW
OF THE BILL.
AS WELL AS THE THREE
AMENDMENTS.
AND COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WE
WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU IN A
MOMENT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOMENT
IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
IF THERE ARE ANY GENERAL
QUESTIONS OR IF MY COLLEAGUES
WOULD PREFER TO WAIT SO THAT WE
CAN AMEND THE BILL AND THEN
HAVE THE AMENDMENT BILL ON THE
TABLE, WE CAN HAVE SUMMARY,
QUESTIONS, AND COMMENTS, AND
MAKE CHANGES.
WE WILL DO IT LIKE WE DID THE
LAST BILL.
WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND DO
THAT?
SO, I WOULD, COUNCILMEMBERS, I
MOVE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF CB 120003.
ITEM 6 ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANKYOU.
MOVED AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND
PASS OF THE BILL.
AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION TO AMEND CB 120003 AS
PRESENTED IN AMENDMENT ONE ON
THE AGENDA.
THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENT THAT
LISE KAYE MENTIONED.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR AMENDMENT
ONE?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
AND TO AMEND THE BILL AS
AMENDMENT ONE.
AND LISE KAYE ALREADY WENT OVER
THIS, BUT ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT ONE?
OKAY.
SO, WILL BE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT ONE?
>> GONZALEZ?
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOW MOVE TO
AMEND CB 120003 AS PRESENTED IN
AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ON THE
AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN, I THINK, DID I
HEAR SECOND?
YES.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND THE
BILL AS PRESENTED WITH
AMENDMENT TWO.
LISE KAYE, FROM THE CENTRAL
STAFF ALREADY SPOKE TO THIS
AMENDMENT TWO.
IT IS THE SAME AS THE AMENDMENT
TWO FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL
BILL.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON
AMENDMENT TWO?
OKAY.
WILL BE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT TWO?
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS ADOPTED.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT
THREE?
>> I DO.
I MOVE TO AMEND CB 120003 AS
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT THREE ON
THE AGENDA.
>> SECOND.
ALL RIGHT.
IT HAS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
AMEND THE BILL, AS PRESENTED IN
AMENDMENT THREE.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, FURTHER
COMMENTS?
>> NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
VISA DID A GREAT JOB AT
DESCRIBING THE INTENT AND THE
EFFECT OF THE AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU.
>> COMMITTEE COLLEAGUES, ANY
OTHER COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT
NUMBER THREE?
ALL RIGHT.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT THREE?
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, AND UNOPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES IN
AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE IS
ADOPTED.
THAT WE HAVE THE AMENDED BILL
ON THE TABLE WITH THE THREE
AMENDMENTS INCORPORATED INTO IT.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS
AMENDED BILL?
WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> I JUST WANT TO ANSWER SOME
QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED
BOTH IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND IN
CORRESPONDENCE WITH
COUNCILMEMBERS, AS IT RELATES
SPECIFICALLY TO THIS
TECHNOLOGY.
THERE IS A QUESTION REGARDING
WHETHER OR NOT THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT HAS TECHNICAL
CONTROLS IN PLACE TO LIMIT THE
SCOPE OF SPD'S ACCESS TO THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT CAD DATA.
AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT
THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE
ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF
ADMINISTRATORS WITH ACCESS TO
THE CAD SYSTEM.
AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS THE
ABILITY TO HAVE MORE CONTROLS
ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
ACCESS AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE
IS REQUIRED TRAINING FOR THOSE
WHO DO.
>> I AM GOING TO TURN THAT OVER
TO EVAN WARD WITH THE SEATTLE
FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
TO ADDRESS, I WILL START WITH
THE LAST QUESTION FIRST,
ACTUALLY.
SO I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE
BIT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING WHEN
IT COMES TO ADMIN ROLES, WHEN
IT COMES TO CAD.
THERE IS ONLY SEVERAL ADMIN AND
THOSE ARE ACTUALLY IN SEATTLE
I.T.
AND THEY WORK ON THE SEATTLE
FIRE DEPARTMENT CAD TECHNOLOGY.
WHAT IS TRUE IS THAT EVERY
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT
EMPLOYEE HAS ACCESS TO THE
DATA.
TO THE CAD SYSTEM.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS IT IS SO
FUNDAMENTAL FOR JUST ABOUT
EVERYTHING WE DO.
FROM SCHEDULING, RESOURCE
ALLOCATION, HR, IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY IN THE
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS
ACCESS TO THE DATA.
READILY AND DAILY.
AND THEN TO ADDRESS YOUR POINT
ABOUT ACCESS TO THE POLICE, WE
DO NOT PROVIDE DIRECT ACCESS TO
THE SEATTLE PD.
IT IS ONLY SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES OR THE
SEATTLE I.T.
FOLKS THAT ARE THE ADMIN.
SO, SIMILAR SOMEWHAT TO THE
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT, WHERE THE
POLICE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS
TO SUBMIT A REQUEST TO GET THE
DATA, WE DO NOT PUSH TO THEM.
THEY COME TO US.
I H.O.P.E.
THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION.
>> IT DOES VERY WELL.
THANK YOU.
A FOLLOW-UP ON THE CAD ACCESS,
CONTROL, CONTROLS THAT ARE IN
PLACE.
THE CONSTITUENT ASKED ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SUPPORT
FOR A TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION
FOR THAT SYSTEM.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO
THAT.
I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE
MORE TECHNICAL EXPERTS ON THAT.
SO I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE YOU
BAD INFORMATION.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I
THINK THE CONCERN WITH THE
LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVING
ACCESS TO IT, THAT HAVING MORE
CONTROLS COULD IMPROVE THE
CYBER SECURITY OF THE SYSTEM.
APPRECIATE YOU GETTING BACK TO
ME.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, AND FOR EVAN WARD, IF
YOU DO NOT MIND GETTING BACK TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD THIS
WEEK, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
COUNCILMEMBERS?
OKAY.
EVERYBODY IS EXCITED TO GET TO
THE NEXT ITEM, I THINK IS WHAT
IS HAPPENING HERE.
SO WILL THE CLERK,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, DID YOU
HAVE A QUESTION?
SORRY.
>> SORRY.
I WAS FOLLOWING UP ON SOME BUT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD GOT TO
THE ROOT OF MY QUESTION.
I DO KNOW, MAYBE MR. WARD COULD
HELP ME UNDERSTAND, I KNOW THAT
I BELIEVE THE CADE DATA IS
AVAILABLE ONLINE AS WELL ON
PULSE POINT.
ARE THERE ANY RETENTION.
I KNOW IN THE ONLINE PORTAL
THROUGH SEATTLE.GOV, IT ONLY
SHOWS RIGHT NOW 127 MESSAGES.
CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME IF THERE
ARE ANY PROTECTIONS THAT NEED
TO BE PUT IN PLACE AROUND HERE?
I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS A MOMENT
AGO ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THE
DEPARTMENT MEETING ACCESS TO
THE DATA.
ARE THERE SECURITY CONCERNS
FROM YOUR STANDPOINT ABOUT
HAVING THIS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE
ONLINE?
ARE THERE RETENTION PARAMETERS
AROUND THIS DATA?
CAN YOU SHARE WITH THAT.
>> SURE.
I'M NOT AWARE OF REQUIREMENTS
WHEN IT COMES TO A MINIMUM OR A
SUGGESTED MAXIMUM DATA
RETENTION FOR THE ONLINE DATA.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE REAL
DATA, WHAT WE HAVE ON THE OPEN
DATA PORTAL IS CAD DATA.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY TAKING
INFORMATION WE DETERMINED TO
NOT BE A PRIVACY RISK AND
PUSHED IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, I
DO NOT SEE CONCERNS WITH THE
DATA WE CURRENTLY PUBLISH
ONLINE.
OR TO PULSE POINT, FOR
INSTANCE.
IT DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY PII,
PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE
AFFIRMATION.
THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE I
SUPPOSE IS IF SOMEONE COULD USE
THE DATA AND SAY, SOMEHOW
COMBINE IT WITH A DIFFERENT
DATA SET.
THEN POTENTIALLY YOU COULD TRY
TO DIG UP MAYBE A RESPONSE
HISTORY TO A PARTICULAR
LOCATION.
BUT AGAIN THERE IS NO PII OR TO
TELL ESSENTIALLY WHO THAT
PERSON IS BASED ON THE DATA.
AND THEN TO GO BACK TO YOUR
LAST QUESTION, I AM NOT AWARE
OF ANY RETENTION POLICIES OF
THAT SORT OF DATA.
>> THANK YOU.
AND JUST TO TEASE THAT OUT ONE
STEP FORWARD, IT SOUNDS LIKE IN
YOUR INTERNAL WHATEVER COMPUTER
YOU ARE USING TO REVIEW YOUR
CAD DATA, INTERNALLY HAS MORE
INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE
PUSHING OUT TO THE GENERAL
PUBLIC.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> GREAT.
AND FOR THE MORE DETAILED
VERSION OF BEING ABLE TO VIEW
THE CADE -- CAD DATA, ARE THERE
TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION'S
REQUIRED?
IS IT LIMITED TO GOVERNMENT
COMPUTERS?
HOW ARE YOU CREATING THAT
SECURITY PERIMETER AROUND THE
MORE ROBUST ASSET?
>> SURE.
SO AT LEAST WHEN IT COMES TO
THE TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION,
I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU
ON SOME OF THE DETAILS WITH
THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CAD
DATA IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT
EMPLOYEES VIA THEIR DESKTOP.
BUT THE DATA IS ALSO INCLUDED
WITH THE MOBILE DATA TERMINAL
IN THE FIRE TRUCKS AND OTHER
RIGS THAT GO WELL.
BUT I WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW-UP TO
GET YOU THE INFORMATION ON THE
TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
>> THANKS COUNCILMEMBER.
ALL RIGHT COLLEAGUES, IF THERE
ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIOS WE
WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO
APPROVE THE AMENDED BILL.
WILL BE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT CB 120003
PASS AS AMENDED.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
FOUR IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AN THE BILL
TO BE AMENDED WILL BE SENT TO
THE MARCH 22nd COUNCIL MEETING
FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION.
THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM 7 ON THE
AGENDA IS RELATED TO THE POLICE
TECHNOLOGY AND THE CLERK CAN GO
AHEAD AND READ THE TITLE INTO
THE RECORD.
BUT WE WILL BE HOLDING IT UNTIL
APRIL 7th.
BUT PLEASE GO AHEAD AND READ
INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, CB
120004.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION; AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS FOR
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
USE OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGIES.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES, AS WE DISCUSSED
EARLIER, WE WILL GIVE EVERYONE
MORE TIME ON THESE SPD
TECHNOLOGIES.
WE WILL HAVE THE ITEM IN THE
COMMITTEE FOR A THIRD TIME ON
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 7th.
AT THAT TIME WE CAN VOTE ON ANY
AMENDMENTS AND IDEALLY VOTE THE
AMENDED BILLS OUT OF COMMITTEE.
AS WE DISCUSSED THE SPD
TECHNOLOGIES TODAY, LET'S START
TO MAYBE CONSIDER POSSIBLE
AMENDMENTS, BUT WE DO WANT TO
GET THE AMENDMENTS TO CENTRAL
STAFF, LISE KAYE, NO LATER THAN
TUESDAY, MARCH 23rd.
THE AMENDMENTS WILL NEED TO
UNDERGO ESSENTIALLY TWO LEGAL
REVIEWS.
A STANDARD LEGAL REVIEW LIKE WE
HAVE WITH ANY AMENDMENT AND A
SUPPLEMENTAL LEGAL REVIEW TO
ASSESS WHETHER THEY MIGHT
MATERIALLY ASSESS WITH THE
DECREE OVER THE PD.
I HAVE ALERTED THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT AMENDMENTS
MAY HAVE NO MATERIAL IMPACT BUT
OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION WE
WILL HAVE THE ATTORNEY OFFICE
DO THE INITIAL SCREENING FOR
THIS TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES RELATED
TO THE DECREE.
BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGIES ARE NOT
DIRECTLY TIED TO CONSENT DECREE
REQUIREMENTS, IT IS POSSIBLE
THERE WILL BE NO ISSUES.
WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE SEE THE
AMENDMENT.
WE ARE ENCOURAGING YOU TO GET
THE AMENDMENTS INTO LISE KAYE
BY NEXT TUESDAY.
AND I WILL BE WORKING WITH
CENTRAL STAFF AND POTENTIALLY
BREAK THE ORDINANCE INTO
MULTIPLE, SEPARATE COUNCIL
BILLS.
THAT WAY IF WE HIT ANY, IF WE
WANT TO HOLD ONE LATER, WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OTHERS.
SO YOU MIGHT SEE THEM
REINTRODUCED, THE SINGLE BILL
REINTRODUCED TO FIVE, ONE FOR
EACH OF TECHNOLOGIES, SO WE
HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND CAN
BE MORE NIMBLE ON APRIL 7th.
OKAY.
WELL, LISE KAYE, IF YOU DON'T
MIND GIVING US THE OVERVIEW OF
THESE AGAIN, I WOULD APPRECIATE
IT.
AND THE AMENDMENTS, THE ONLY
TWO THAT WERE ONLINE WERE JUST
THE SAME TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS,
AND INFORMATION, THE
INFORMATION ON THE EQUITY
ASSESSMENT.
BUT WE EXPECT MORE AMENDMENTS
TO COME TO LISE KAYE NEXT
WEEK, TO DISCUSS ON APRIL 7.
THANK YOU.
I.
>> SO WITH YOUR PERMISSION I
WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND
SHARE MY SCREEN AND GO BACK TO
THE SLIDE DECK TO JUST WALK
THROUGH THE FIVE TECHNOLOGIES.
I THINK THAT IT HELPS ORGANIZE
THE THINKING MORE BECAUSE THERE
ARE FIVE SIR HERE UNDER
CONSIDERATION.
SO LET ME JUST GET THIS SHARED
WITH YOU.
IS THAT LOOKING WRITE TO YOU
NOW?
EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT?
>> NOT YET.
>> BECAUSE I HAVE TO HIT
"SHARE."
OKAY.
>> GREAT.
>> THAT SHOULD BE ON.
I WILL JUMP FORWARD TO THE FIVE
POLICE DEPARTMENT TECHNOLOGIES
HERE.
SO, THE FIVE THAT ARE UNDER
CONSIDERATION ARE FOR AUTOMATED
LICENSE PLATE READING, FOR THE
PARKING ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM THAT
USES THE AUTOMATED READER
SYSTEM.
FROM A DIFFERENT VENDOR.
THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH,
WITH WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT
WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
COPLOGIC, THE PROGRAM I WALK
THROUGH IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THE 911 LOGGING RECORDER.
SO, THE LICENSE PLATE READERS,
AS YOU HEARD LAST WEEK, WILL
HELP WITH THE EDIFICATION OF
STOLEN VEHICLES, HELP YOU FIND
AMBER ALERT AND SILVER ALERT
INDIVIDUALS, AND VEHICLES THAT
WOULD BE WANTED IN CONJUNCTION
WITH MONIES OR OTHER
INVESTIGATIONS.
I WILL JUST DO THE DESCRIPTION
RIGHT NOW, RATHER THAN WALK
THROUGH MY BRIEFING, IF THAT
WORKS FOR YOU, CHAIR.
>> YES.
I WILL JUST SKIP THE SLIDES AND
IT IS USED FOR PARKING
ASSISTANCE, ENFORCEMENT SO IF
YOU HAVE MULTIPLE INFRACTIONS,
PARKING INFRACTIONS, THEY WILL
HELP YOU IDENTIFY THE
INDIVIDUALS.
THE INFORMATION, THAT IS
COLLECTED FROM THE READERS FOR
PARKING ENFORCEMENT, JUST A
SECOND.
MY CAT, JESSICA, TAKE THE CAT
OUT.
[ LAUGHTER ] SORRY.
A CAT INTERRUPTION THERE.
>> WE NEED CAT PREVENTION
TECHNOLOGY.
>> I THINK IT IS CALLED A DOOR.
ANYHOW, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
SO THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT
SYSTEMS DID AFFIRM THEIR
LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM IS
UPDATED OR UPLOADED AT THE END
OF EACH SHIFT, TO THE DATABASE
SHARED WITH CONTROL.
THE NEXT TECHNOLOGY, IS THE
COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH, WHICH
I DO NOT THINK I NEED TO
DESCRIBE IN MUCH DETAIL HERE.
IT IS WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
DOES WITH ITS COMPUTER-AIDED
DISPATCH, AND SUPPORTING THE
911 CALLS.
THE COPLOGIC, THE SYSTEM THAT
HAS TWO DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.
ONE IS WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN
CALL IN AND REPORT LOW-LEVEL
CRIMES ON A POLICE RECORDED
NUMBER THAT THEY USE TO SUBMIT
FOR AN INSURANCE CLAIM.
AND THEN THE SECOND TRACK IS
THE RETAIL THEFT RECORDING
WHERE BUSINESSES CAN CALL OR
CAN REPORT POTENTIAL SHOPLIFTERS
AND START THE PROCESS FOR
REPORTING THOSE CRIMES AND THEN
THE COURTS WILL DECIDE OR THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL
DECIDE WHETHER TO FILE CHARGES
AGAINST THE CASES.
AND THE FIFTH ONE IS THE
LOGGING RECORDER, BASICALLY
USED TO RECORD ALL TELEPHONE
CALLS THAT COME INTO THE 911
CENTER AND THE TRAFFIC BETWEEN
THE DISPATCHERS AND THE PATROL
OFFICERS.
SO THOSE ARE THE FIVE
TECHNOLOGIES IN THE SUM VALENCE
REPORT AND EXECUTIVE OVERVIEWS
THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY EACH OF
THE TECHNOLOGIES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
OVERVIEW OF THE FIVE SPD
TECHNOLOGIES.
THE EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES
BEFORE US IS PART OF THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT AND
WE DO HAVE AGAIN WITH US, THIS
COMMITTEE, CAPTAIN PAUL
McDONAGH FROM SEATTLE PD AND
THEN ALSO THE INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE
ABLE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR LISE
KAYE OR I.T.
OR SPD, THAT YOU DID NOT GET TO
ASK THE LAST TIME, PLEASE GO
AHEAD AND ASK THE QUESTIONS NOW.
OBVIOUSLY FEEL FREE TO GIVE A
PREVIEW OF THOUGHTS OF WHAT YOU
MIGHT WANT TO EXPLORE FOR
AMENDMENTS ON APRIL 7th.
I AM HAPPY TO SUMMARIZE A
LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I HEARD AT
THE LAST COMMITTEE.
AND TALKING TO INDIVIDUALS
BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
BETWEEN THEN AND NOW.
BUT, PLEASE, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, ANY COMMENTS?
>> SURE.
I WILL KICK US OFF HERE.
SO, STUFF I WANTED TO GET AN
UNDERSTANDING, AS IT RELATES TO
THE PLATE READER, THE EFFICACY,
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ANALYSIS
THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES
SHOWS THAT OVER A NINE-MONTH
PERIOD THERE WERE 2.4 MILLION
LICENSE PLATES SCANNED AND AS A
RESULT OF THE SCANNING OF THE
2.4 MILLION LICENSE PLATES OVER
A NINE-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME,
THERE WERE 124 HITS.
AND THAT APPARENTLY IS IN
EFFECTIVENESS RATE THAT IS
SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN A
SIMILAR ANALYSIS OF THIS DATA
FROM 2013.
IN 2013, APPARENTLY THE NUMBER
OF HITS WAS 0.25%, UNDER THE
MOST RECENT ANALYSIS, IT IS NOW
0.005%.
AND I AM JUST WONDERING, WHAT
DID WE LEARN FROM ASSUMING THAT
ANALYSIS I AM SHARING IS
ACCURATE, WHAT DID WE LEARN
ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS
PROGRAM WITH LARGER NUMBERS OF
LICENSE PLATES BEING SCANNED?
AND RESULTING IN FEWER FINDINGS
OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE, THAT SPD
IS LOOKING FOR.
>> SO CAPTAIN PAUL McDONAGH IS
ON THE LINE WITH US HERE.
TO ANSWER THAT.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBERS,
27 WITH SEATTLE POLICE HERE.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU
HAD THE STUDIES AND I WILL BE
HONEST WITH THE FIRST ONE I
DIDN'T HAVE THAT DATA AND I
APOLOGIZE.
BUT IN TERMS OF HIT RATIO, IF
YOU LOOK AT YOUR NUMBERS, I DO
NOT THINK IT DOES IT JUSTICE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT DOES
IS ALLOWS US TO LOCATE THE
VEHICLES THAT I'VE BEEN STOLEN
BY ANYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND
RETURN THEM.
ADDITIONALLY, THE INFORMATION
DOES NOT OFTEN COME IN IN WHAT
I WOULD CALL THE TV STYLE.
LIKE LESS THAN ONE HOUR WE WILL
KNOW ALL THE VEHICLES AND
EVERYONE THAT IS A PLAYER.
MANY OF OUR CASES COME IN
OVERTIME.
SO PEOPLE COLLECT THE
INFORMATION, TRACK DOWN THE
VEHICLE, WE GET A LICENSE PLATE
AND THEY PUBLISH IT.
WE CAN USE IT FOR ONE, TYPES OF
CRIMES OF PROGRESS AND TYPE
STUFF.
IN TERMS OF RETURNING VEHICLES
BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS
AND/OR RECOVERING THE VEHICLE
AS EVIDENCE, TO HOLD CRIMINALS
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE CRIMES.
THE GOOD THING THERE IS EVEN
THOUGH IT IS A LOW RATIO, WE
HAVE INCREASED OUR POPULATION
FROM 2013, I THINK YOU SAID, TO
2000 20.
EIGHT 2020.
YOU WILL GET MORE READS.
GROWING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC,
PEOPLE, YOU WOULD THINK THEY
WOULD KNOW IF THEIR CAR WAS
GONE.
BUT THEY WERE NOT GOING OUT I.
I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS WILL
PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER,
BUT AGAIN FOR THE VALUE THAT IT
GIVES FOR US, FOR EVIDENCE, AND
RECOVERING THE PROPERTY, IT IS
VALUABLE FOR OUR CITIZENS.
>> THANK YOU.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I
HAVE RELATES TO COPLOGIC.
I THINK THERE IS A PERCEPTION
THAT THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY
SOMEHOW GRANT SECURITY WITHIN
STORES SOME ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY
TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY
CANNOT DO OTHERWISE.
AND I DO NOT THINK THAT IS
ACCURATE.
I DO NOT THINK THAT IT IS THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES IT
POSSIBLE FOR STORE SECURITY TO
KEEP SOMEBODY ON SITE UNTIL AN
OFFICER COMES.
I THINK TO A CERTAIN EXTENT
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO
THAT ALREADY.
BUT MAYBE YOU COULD TALK A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
THERE IS A CONCERN THAT WE ARE,
THAT THE TECHNOLOGY ITSELF IS
ALLOWING FOR THE DEPPE
UTILIZATION, BASICALLY, OF
STORE SECURITY.
>> FIRST OF ALL TO BUY FOR THE
QUESTION.
I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS AN
ACCURATE.
THE STORE SECURITY DOES HAVE A
RIGHT TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY
AND LAWFULLY DETAINED WITHIN
REASON.
THOSE WHO ARE EXPECTED OF
COMMITTING A CRIME.
HOWEVER, WHAT COPLOGIC ALLOWS
US TO DO IS REDUCE STAFF HOURS.
INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SEND A
UNIFORMED OFFICER TO THE SITE,
AND TAKE ALL THAT TIME TO
COLLECT EVIDENCE AND SO FORTH,
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SHIFT THAT
TO THE SECURITY LOSS PREVENTION
OFFICERS.
IN THAT THEY STILL HAVE TO
SWEAR OUT AN AFFIDAVIT ABOUT
THE REASONABLENESS OF WHAT THE
CRIME WAS.
AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE.
WHEN THEY SUBMIT THAT IT IS NOT
ACTUALLY IN THE SYSTEM UNTIL A
DETECTIVE REVIEWS THE WHOLE
THING.
AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING
MISSING IN THERE FOR PROBABLE
CAUSE OR EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS
THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL COMMITTED
THAT INTENDED KRIEBEL REPORTED
CRIME, THEN THE DETECTIVE WILL
SEND IT BACK AND IT WILL NOT
EVEN COME BACK INTO THE SYSTEM
GET THAT OFFICER CHOSE NOT TO
RESPOND THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY
DELETES AFTER, I WANT TO SAY
120 DAYS.
I THINK.
IT GIVES PEOPLE TIME TO HAVE
COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH.
BUT THE DETECTIVE THAT REVIEWS
IT INSURES, LIKE AN OFFICER
WOULD, HAD THEY GONE THERE TO
MAKE SURE THERE IS ELEMENTS OF
A CRIME THAT WE CAN IN TURN
LOOK INTO AND TAKE TO THE
PROSECUTOR FOR CONSIDERATION OF
CHARGES.
IF WE ONLY FORWARDED THEN THE
PROSECUTOR MAKES THE FINAL
DETERMINATION.
THEN I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY
ALLOWS US UNDER THE LAST STUDY,
TO REDUCE 20,000 STAFF OFFICERS
HOURS.
KEEPING PATROL OFFICERS DOING
WHAT THEY CAN DO AND NOT GOING
TO THE STORE AND TYING UP A
PERSON IN CUSTODY.
IT ALSO ALLOWS THE LOSS
PROVINCIAL -- LOSS PREVENTION
OFFICER IF THEY HAVE
IDENTIFICATION, THEY CAN REACH
IT A LOT SOONER.
>> A DRAMATIC PAUSE.
>> SORRY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
SOMETIMES IT IS DIFFICULT TO
SWITCH SCREENS, BUT THANK YOU
FOR THE ANSWER.
RELATED TO THE ABILITY OF STORE
OWNERS TO USE THE ONLINE
FEATURE AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT
CRIMES ARE REPORTED USING THAT
ONLINE FEATURE BEFORE ACTING
UPON THOSE REPORTS, HAVE WE
CONSIDERED COLLECTING ANY
DEMOGRAPHIC DATA ABOUT THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT STORE OWNERS
ARE CALLING IN, SO THAT WE CAN
HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF
WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS ANY
DISPARITY IN ENFORCEMENT, MUCH
LIKE WE DO WITH THE CITATIONS
THAT POLICE OFFICERS MAKE.
WE COLLECT DEMOGRAPHIC
INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN
ANALYZE IT AND LEARN FROM IT.
I AM WONDERING IF THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT IS POSSIBLE TO
DO WITH THIS SYSTEM AS WELL.
>> ALL OF THAT ITEM THAT WE CAN
REQUIRE LEGALLY IS IN THE
REPORT.
AND TO CLARIFY, JUST TO PROCESS,
THE LOSS PREVENTION OFFICER
DOES GET A MANUAL ON WHAT THEY
ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN.
AND ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
OUTLINING THE CRIME.
AND THE OTHER THING, LIKE IF
THEY ARE FOLLOWING OUT THE
REPORT LIKE A PERSONAL OFFICER,
THEY HAVE TO SWEAR THAT THE
INFORMATION THEY ARE REPORTING
IS ACCURATELY CORRECT.
OR THEY ARE SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL
CHARGES FOR FALSE REPORTING AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
POSSIBLE EVEN PERJURY.
BUT I DO THINK THAT WE COULD
HAPPILY WORK WITH SOMEONE FROM
I.T., TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO COLLECT SOME OF THAT DATA.
>> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
THIS ISN'T THE LAST TIME YOU
WILL BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS,
BUT I WANTED TO GET ON THE
TABLE IF YOU HAVE OTHER
QUESTIONS.
AND SINCE WE HAVE CAPTAIN PAUL
McDONAGH HERE, AS WELL AS I.T.
AND CENTRAL STAFF.
I DO WANT TO RAISE A QUESTION
THAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT
PARKING ENFORCEMENT FOLKS
SHARING INFORMATION WITH THE
REST OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IN TERMS, ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK
TO THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW
PARKING ENFORCEMENT ANORAKS OR
SHARES DATA WITH THE REGULAR
PATROL OFFICERS.
FOR EXAMPLE.
>> A LITTLE BIT.
AND SINCE THE LAST MEETING, I
MADE SURE TO GET SOME
CLARIFICATION ON SOME DATA.
SO, POOREST -- PARKING
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE
LOCATING THE TIME OF THE
LICENSE PLATE THAT WAS READ AND
THEN KEEP VEHICLES MOVING AND
IF THEY WRITE THE CITATIONS OR
ISSUE INFRACTIONS, WE DO NOT
GET ANY OF THAT DATA.
THAT IS HELD COMPLETE LEAVE IPP
OWES.
THE PDO READINGS, THAT DOES GO
INTO A CLEVER IGNITION POINT.
BUT FOR AN OFFICER TO ACTUALLY
READ THE DATA, YOU WERE TALKING
EARLIER ABOUT THE TWO FACTOR
AUTHENTICATION FOR SOME OF THE
SYSTEMS.
WE HAVE IT FOR SPD TO GET IN
AND ONCE THEY ARE IN THEY LOG
INTO A SPECIFIC SYSTEM AND PUT
THEIR NAME, THE CASE NUMBER,
AND THE CRIME ITSELF THAT THEY
ARE SUSPECTED OF.
THEN DO THE RESEARCH FOR THE
LICENSE PLATE.
THAT IS ANOTHER WAY THAT WE ARE
USING THE ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS
TO ENSURE WE ARE NOT ABUSING THE
INFORMATION IN THE SYSTEM.
SO YES THEY CAN ACCESS THAT.
BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE FOR A
CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
IF IT IS BEING USED, HOPEFULLY
úNOT, BUT IF USED FOR PERSONAL
úUSE OR SOMETHING ELSE, THERE,
OTHER THAN THEIR OFFICIAL
DUTIES, THEN THEY ARE SUBJECT TO
DISCIPLINE UNDER LAW.
>> THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING
THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK
YOU CAPTAIN PAUL McDONAGH.
SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WILL BE
EXTENSIONS OF WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS
ASKING.
MY APOLOGIES FOR MAYBE ASKING
THE SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE
BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE MEMOS AND
THE PRESENTATION.
IT IS JUST INFORMATION THAT I
WANT TO FOCUS CLEARLY AND ON.
FOR THE LICENSE PLATE READERS
THEMSELVES, IS THE PRIMARY
APPLICATION OF THE LICENSE
PLATE READER JUST WITH PARKING
ENFORCEMENT?
OR IS IT ALSO WHILE THE PATROL
CAR IS ON THE ROAD?
DRIVING AROUND.
>> WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PATROL
CARS THAT HAVE IT, ALTHOUGH NOT
ALL OF THE PATROL CARS HAVE IT.
WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN THE SHOP,
BECAUSE AGAIN THE TECHNOLOGY
GOES UP AND DOWN, WE AVERAGE TWO
PER PRECINCT, EXCEPT FOR THE
NORTH, BECAUSE OF THE
GEOGRAPHIC SIZE.
THEY HAVE THREE.
CHECK THAT I KNOW AT LEAST TWO
VEHICLES WERE IN FOR
MAINTENANCE AND WHERE THEY CAME
FROM, I CANNOT ANSWER.
THOSE UNITS DO IN FACT YOU SOME.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT IS HELPFUL.
AND SO FOR THE NON-PARKING
ENFORCEMENT, FOR THE PATROL
CARS THAT HAVE IT EMBEDDED,
WHAT IS THE PRIMARY FUNCTION?
IS IT JUST TO INCREASE
EFFICIENCY AS YOU DRIVE AROUND
TO LOCATE, AS YOU MENTIONED,
STOLEN CARS?
MAYBE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE
ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT.
CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT
THE POLICY REASON IS.
>> SO YOU ARE HALF RIGHT ON
THAT.
DO WE USE IT FOR WANTED
VEHICLES, SOLEN VEHICLES,
THOSE VEHICLES WITH WARRANTS
ASSOCIATED TO THE LICENSE
PLATE.
IF I HAVE A CAR AND COMMIT A
CRIME AND IT MIGHT BE TAGGED TO
THE LICENSE PLATE AND YOU CAN
CHECK IT OUT.
BUT IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT
CARS, THEY CANNOT JUST RUN A
LICENSE PLATE AND SAY, I WANT
TO TALK TO YOU.
THE OFFICER CANNOT DO THAT.
THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN
THE SYSTEM TO GIVE THEM A READ
OR HIT.
A CASUAL TERM.
AND IT SAYS HEY, THIS PERSON IS
A MISSING PERSON.
OUT OF SPOKANE.
WE GET A NUMBER OF THOSE AND
THEY ARE UPDATED INTO THE
SYSTEM.
SO IF THE LICENSE PLATE READER
SEES THE VEHICLE, OF THE
LICENSE PLATE, IT WILL SAY THAT
THIS VEHICLE IS LISTED AS A
MISSING PERSON OUT OF SPOKANE.
OR ENDANGERED PERSON.
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OTHER THAN THAT IT REALLY JUST
PRETTY MUCH COMES BACK FOR THE
PATROL OFFICERS, THE FACT THAT
IT IS WANTED OR NOT WANTED.
IF IT IS NOT WANTED THEN IT
DOES NOT COME UP WITH ANYTHING.
>> THANK YOU, CAPTAIN.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT AS THE
PATROL CAR IS ON PATROL, IT IS
AUTOMATICALLY READING THE
LICENSE PLATES AHEAD AND BEHIND
IT?
OR DO YOU HAVE TO ACTIVATE THE
TECHNOLOGY?
>> YOU HAVE TO TURN THE SYSTEM
ON.
AND -- SORRY.
GO AHEAD.
>> SO IT FUNCTIONS SIMILARLY TO
A PATROL OFFICER BEHIND A CAR
THAN PUNCHING IN THE LICENSE
PLATE.
>> YES, SIR.
AND ALL OF THE OFFICERS THAT
ARE ASSIGNED THE VEHICLE ARE
GOING THROUGH THE INTERNAL
TRAINING CLASSES.
>> OKAY.
AND ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK ON
THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT ASPECT
OR DO I NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE
QUESTIONS ELSEWHERE?
>> IT DEPENDS ON HOW DETAILED
YOU GET.
I USE TO OVERSEE ARCING
ENFORCEMENT, BUT IT WAS A FEW
YEARS AGO.
I WILL DO MY BEST.
I WAS THAT?
>> THANK YOU, CAPTAIN.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT MY QUESTION
PERTAINS TO BOTH THE DATA THAT
IS RETAINED ON THE PATROL CARS
AND WITH PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
THIS WAS GETTING TO WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS
SAYING, IF THERE IS NOT A HIT
ON THE LICENSE PLATE THAT YOU
RETAIN THE DATA FOR, I HEARD
YOU SHARE THAT IT IS HELPFUL TO
RETAIN THE DATA TO IDENTIFY
STOLEN CARS THAT MAYBE YOU DID
NOT KNOW WERE STOLEN AT THAT
MOMENT.
AND YOU LATER REALIZED WERE
STOLEN.
ARE THERE OTHER REASONS TO DO
THIS?
IT DOES SEEM TO ME ON ITS FACE
THAT WE ARE RETAINING FAR TOO
MUCH DATA THAT IS A PERSONAL
NATURE.
>> SO IN RESPONSE TO OBVIOUSLY
EARLIER INQUIRIES OVER THE
YEARS, SPD HAS REDUCED THE
ATTENTION TIME -- RETENTION
TIME, 180 DAYS, WHICH IS WHAT
STATE LAW ALLOWS, WE REDUCED TO
90 DAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT A
SIGNIFICANT IMAGE HAS NOT BEEN
RECOVERED.
THE DEFINITION OF A SIGNIFICANT
IMAGE IS VERY, VERY BROAD.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ANSWER
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS,
WHICH TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME
CONSIDERING THE SHEER VOLUME OF
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS THAT
WE GET.
SO IN TERMS OF THAT AND TRYING
TO BALANCE IT ALL OUT, WE SAID
LOOK, THOUGH ONE HOMICIDE CASE
I AM AWARE OF, IT CAME IN ABOUT
TWO AND HALF WEEKS AFTER THE
HOMICIDE BECAUSE IT TOOK THE
DETECTIVE IN ANOTHER
JURISDICTION THAT LONG TO FEEL
OUT THE VEHICLE.
WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THE
VEHICLE AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY
AFFECT THE REST.
SO IT GIVES US A BUFFER TO DO
THAT.
BUT AFTER 90 DAYS, IF THE CASE
OR THE LICENSE PLATE HAS NOT
BEEN FLAGGED TO A SPECIFIC
CASE, IT IS CALLED LINKED IN
THE I.T.
WORLD AND HAS NOT BEEN LINKED
TO A CASE OR PULLED, IT IS
AUTOMATICALLY DELETED AT 90
DAYS.
THE OFFICERS HAVE NO TOUCH WITH
THAT AND CANNOT TRY TO KEEP IT
LONGER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> THANK YOU, CAPTAIN.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO
RECEIVE THE DATA FROM YOUR END,
TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NEED
TO RETAIN THE DATA THAT LONG.
YOU KNOW, I HEAR YOUR CONCERN
ABOUT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS
AND I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED
TO HEAR FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT
ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF
YOU WERE TO ONLY RETAIN THE
LICENSE PLATE FOR SAY THREE
HOURS, WITH THAT BE CONSIDERED
A TRANSITORY PIECE OF DATA?
YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE A NOTE,
TO REMIND YOURSELF TO MAKE A
PHONE CALL LATER THIS AFTERNOON,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAVE IT FOR
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.
BUT IF YOU LEAVE THE NOTE IN
YOUR NOTEBOOK, ONCE THE PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE WAS PUT IN AND
REQUESTED, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE
TO SHARE IT.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
TRANSITORY AND ALL THOSE IN
FAVOR, SAY "AYE."
>> I WOULD DEFER TO LEGAL.
BUT THERE ARE ISSUES TO NOT
KEEPING THE DATA.
I WILL LET LEGAL BE CLEAR ON
THAT.
BUT IN TERMS OF SEEING THE
DATA, YOU CAN BREAK AWAY OR
COME OVER AND WE CAN SHOW YOU
BUT YOU HAVE TO LOGIN AND
FOLLOW THE STEPS.
I DON'T BELIEVE, I WOULD HAVE
TO DEFER TO LEGAL, THAT I CAN
PULL A COPY OF IT AND JUST
HANDED OFF.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU.
AND THEN TO FOCUS MY QUESTION
OR INTENTLY, IS TO SAY, I JUST
NEED HIGH-LEVEL INFORMATION.
IS RETAINING THE DATA, HAS IT
PRODUCED 100 MORE ARRESTS?
WHAT WERE THE ARRESTS FOR?
DID IT COVER SEVEN CARS OR 24
CARS?
WHEN WE ARE MAKING THESE TYPES
OF POLICY DECISIONS, TO SIMPLY
SAY THAT RETAINING THIS DATA
FOR 180 DAYS, OR 90 DAYS, IS A
BENEFIT BECAUSE WE MADE ONE
RECOVERY, OR THREE RECOVERIES
OF CARS, IS FAR DIFFERENT THAN
100 RECOVERIES.
THAT IS THE POLICY PERSPECTIVE
THAT I AM COMING WITH TO THIS
CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE
THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE?
LEASE DEPARTMENT, I.T., CENTRAL
STAFF.
OTHERWISE WE CAN CLOSE OUT AND
THEN TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT NEXT
STEPS.
ALL RIGHT.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN, IF I CAN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE
QUESTIONS, THANK YOU CAPTAIN
PAUL McDONAGH FOR BEING WITH US
TODAY, TO PROVIDE INITIAL
RESPONSES HERE. I
JUST WANT TO SIGNAL TO BOTH THE
CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, THAT
I WILL CONTINUE TO SPEND THE
TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE
CHAIR'S NEW DEADLINE OF NEXT
TUESDAY, TO HIGHLIGHT ANY
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS THAT I
MIGHT HAVE RELATED TO THESE
PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGIES.
AND MY H.O.P.E.
IS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO
THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE
DEADLINE HERE.
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE
THE, WHAT IS THE PHRASE?
FLY IN THE OINTMENT AND GET US
ALL STUCK HERE ON THIS.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF
OTHER TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE NEED
TO CONSIDER HERE.
WE WILL WORK EXPEDITIOUSLY TO
IDENTIFY ANY CONCERNS AND WE
WILL MAKE SURE TO REACH OUT TO
I.T.
AND CAPTAIN PAUL McDONAGH WITH
QUESTIONS.
AND OF COURSE WITH THE
ASSISTANCE OF LISE KAYE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
THAT SUMS IT UP WELL FOR
EVERYBODY, COLLEAGUES, TO GET
YOUR AMENDMENTS, POTENTIAL
AMENDMENTS AND TALK THROUGH
THEM WITH LISE KAYE AND THEN
AS YOU CRAFT THEM, WE CAN GET
THEM OVER TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE
ADDITIONAL REVIEW AND THE
ADDITIONAL LENS OF MIKE THIS
AFFECT THE DISSENT DECREE.
AND WE CAN GET THEM PUBLISHED
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM AT
THE NEXT MEETING ON WEDNESDAY,
APRIL 7th.
AND AGAIN, LOOK FOR THE
INTRODUCTION REFERRAL, YOU MAY
SEE THE BILL BROKEN INTO PIECES
SO WE CAN BE MORE NIMBLE ON THE
SEVENTH.
AND ARE THERE ANY FINAL
COMMENTS?
FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER WE
CAN CLOSE OUT.
FOR ME, I WANT TO THANK
EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN WORKING
ON THEIR SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORTS FOR MANY MANY MONTHS.
AND THERE IS A LONG PROCESS AS
WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, AND LOTS
OF INPUT.
AND WE HAVE GOT ONE OF THE
CHIEF ARCHITECTS OF THAT
PROCESS HERE, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ AS WELL.
WE ARE SEEING THE BENEFITS OF
IT BY RAISING THE ISSUES AND WE
NOTE THAT SOME OF THE
DEPARTMENTS MADE POSITIVE
CHANGES TO THEIR POLICIES
DURING THE SIR PROCESS.
THAT IS A REALLY GOOD OUTCOME
ALREADY FOR SOME OF THIS.
ALL RIGHT.
COLLEAGUES.
THIS CONCLUDES THE MARCH 17th,
2021 MEETING OF THE
TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES
COMMITTEE.
WE WILL PLAN TO MEET AGAIN ON
APRIL 7th.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR
ATTENDING.
>> THANK YOU.
BYE.
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