>>> THE MEETING OF THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WILL
COME TO ORDER.
THE TIME IS 2:00 P.M.
I'M ALEX PEDERSON.
THE CHAIR OF COMMITTEE.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> GONZALEZ, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE
REPORT WILL BE ADOPTED.
CHAIR'S REPORT.
WE HAVE 17 APPOINTMENTS TO SIX
DIFFERENT BOARDS.
WE WILL HAVE A REVIEW AND A
PRESENTATION FROM OUR CITY
AUDITOR'S OFFICE LICENSE PLATE
READER TECHNOLOGY.
I HOPE EVERYONE HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WITNESS THE
SWEARING IN OF OUR NEW
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
JOE BIDEN AND VISE PRESIDENT
KAMALA HARRIS.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DID NOT
HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP YET.
I WILL CHECK ONE MORE TIME WITH
OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
TEAM.
IS IT -- IS IT ACCURATE NO ONE
SIGNED UP AS OF NOW?
>> THAT IS ACCURATE, THANK YOU.
>> NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT IF YOU ARE WATCHING.
E-MAIL US.
WE WILL -- I WILL CLOSE THIS
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND WE
WILL GO INTO THE FIRST ITEMS OF
BUSINESS.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
FIRST SET OF SIX APPOINTMENTS
INTO THE RECORD.
AGENDA ITEMS 1-16.
1749 THROUGH 1751 AND 1764-
1766.
THE APPOINTMENT OF NICOLE JOY
ESPY AS COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY
ADVISORY BOARD TO A TERM OF
DECEMBER 31st, 2021 AND ABEDAYO
AND SHIN AND REAPPOINTMENTS FOR
TERMS THROUGH DECEMBER 31st,
2022 FOR A BRIEF DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
WE HAVE WITH US TRACY KANTRAL.
WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE ALL OF
THESE CANDIDATES WITH US.
IF YOU DON'T MIND TELL US ABOUT
THE IT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A
DISCUSSION.
GO AHEAD, TRACY.
>> THANK YOU, WE ARE PLEASED TO
PRESENT 6 APPOINTMENTS FOR THE
COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND
ADVISORY BOARD.
JUST FOR A LITTLE RECAP AS THE
NAME SOUNDS THE COMMUNITY
TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY BOARD HELPS
GUIDE CITY STRATEGIES AND
INVESTMENT INFORMATION AND
INFORMATION AND COMMUNITY
TECHNOLOGIES.
SO, THIS IS A RANGE OF ISSUES
THAT HELPS SUPPORT MAYOR AND
CITY COUNCIL.
IT COULD INCLUDE DIGITAL
EQUITY, UNDERSTANDING COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT, THERE ARE MANY
TOPICS THAT THIS GROUP TAKES
ON.
WE ARE PLEASED IT WILL BE A
FULL APPOINTMENT FOR THE
COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY
BOARD.
WE DID DO A COMPETITIVE PROCESS
TO SELECT THESE CANDIDATES.
WE ARE HAPPY THESE SIX ARE THE
ONES MOVING FORWARD.
LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THEM
JOIN.
LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THEM
DISCUS WHY THEY CHOSE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS MANNER.
>> THANK YOU, TRACYE, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT LORENA GONZALEZ IS
WITH US.
WELCOME, PRESIDENT, WE JUST GOT
STARTED.
TRACYE PLEASE INTRODUCE THE
APPLICANTS.
>> I SEE TODAY THAT WE HAVE
SHIN JOINING US.
>> HELLO, EVERYONE.
I AM A LIFELONG WASHINGTONIAN.
GREW UP IN THE GREATER SEATTLE
AREA AND WENT TO UNDER GRAD AT
UNIVERSITY BOTHELL.
AS LOCALS YOU CAN GET.
I DID STUDY INTERACTIVE MEDIA
AND MINOR IN BUSINESS.
I BEGAN MY FULL TIME CAREER
LAST SEPTEMBER AT MICROSOFT.
SO, I HAVE BEEN HERE ABOUT A
YEAR OR TWO NOW DOING PRODUCT
MARKETING RESEARCH, PRODUCT
MARKETING MANAGEMENT FOR M365
MICROSOFT 65 AND WINDOWS.
GREAT TO TALK ABOUT MY INTEREST
IN TECHNOLOGY AND WHY I AM
PASSIONATE TO JOIN THE BOARD.
THE HUGE REASON WHY I WANT TO
INSPIRE MORE STUDENTS, RECENT
GRADS, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS TO
JOIN IN THE CONVERSATIONS
ESPECIALLY PERTAINING TO
DIGITAL INCLUSION.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM
PASSIONATE ABOUT.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO
BRINGING MY TECH PERSPECTIVE AS
A LIFELONG WASHINGTONIAN, BEING
A STUDENT HERE AND KIND OF
MOTIVATING AND KIND OF HEARING
MORE FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY
MEMBERS TO GET THEM INVOLVED IN
OUR COMMUNITY INVASION AS WELL.
>> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> TRACYE IS THERE ANYBODY
ELSE?
>> I SEE NICOLE IS HERE.
SHE MAY WANT TO SAY A FEW
WORDS.
HI YES, MY NAME IS NICOLE ESPY.
I AM A RESIDENT OF SEATTLE FOR
THREE YEARS.
I AM GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
HAS DONE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND
I WANTED TO BE MORE INVOLVED.
I GOT INVOLVED WITH C-TAB THIS
PAST SUMMER BECAUSE I WANTED TO
BE ABLE UNDERSTAND MORE HOW
PRAOEUFACEY AND CYBERSECURITY
AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY,
PARTICULARLY THE TECHNOLOGIES
USED BY THE CITY TO ENGAGE
CITIZEN AND PROTECT CITIZENS.
SO I AM PARTICIPATING IN
PRIVACY IN CYBERCITY
SUBCOMMITTEE AND ONE EFFORT
THINGS I WANT TO DO THIS YEAR
WAS GET MORE SEATTLE CITIZENS
BE AWARE OF WHAT THE CITY IS
DOING AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZENS TO
BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AND
TO BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT
CTAB IS ABLE TO DO AND WHAT THE
CITY IS ABLE TO DO AS WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING
ME COMMENT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, NICOLE.
YOU PROBABLY NOTICED AT THE END
OF THIS AGENDA TODAY WE DO HAVE
AN OVERVIEW OF THE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE.
SO I KNOW THAT WILL BE
PARTICULARLY INTEREST TO A LOT
OF FOLKS.
THANK YOU, AND TRACEY ANYBODY
ELSE BEFORE WE ASK ANY
QUESTIONS?
>> I DO NOT SEE ANYONE ELSE ON
THE CALL THAT WE SHOULD BE
HEARING FROM BUT, AGAIN,
LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
AND IT IS SO IMPORTANT IN THIS
CURRENT STAGE LIKE WE HAVE
COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY
BOARD.
SO, THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY'S
HELP HERE.
>> THANK YOU, TRACEY.
>> I KNOW YOU READ THEIR
PACKETS BUT IF YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS NOW,
OTHERWISE WE CAN
MOVE TO A VOTE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS JUST
WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO
EVERYONE SERVING ON THE BOARD.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AS IS TYPICAL I GIVE YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY IF ONE OR MORE WANT
TO SEPARATE OUT ANY APPLICANTS
FOR A SEPARATE VOTE WE CAN DO
THAT OTHERWISE WE CAN VOTE ON
ALL 6 TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY BOARD
APPOINTMENTS TOGETHER.
DO ANY OF YOU WISH TO HAVE A
SEPARATE VOTE ON ANYBODY?
OKAY.
HEARING NO WISH TO DO THAT I
MOVE TO THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF APPOINTMENTS 01749
THROUGH 01751 AND APPOINTMENTS
01764 THROUGH 01766.
THESE ARE ITEMS 1-6 ON THE
AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
MOVED AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND
PASSAGE.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
OKAY.
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE
FORWARDING TO THE FULL CITY
COUNCIL.
5 IN FAVOR.
>> EXCELLENT.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND IT WILL
BE SENT FOR APPROVAL TO THE
JANUARY 25 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
CONGRATULATIONS TRACYE TO YOU
AND YOUR TEAM WE WILL MOVE ON
TO THE NEXT ITEMS.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ
THE NEXT SET OF APPOINTMENTS
INTO THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM 7-9. THROUGH
17224.
AND REAPPOINTMENT OF ANDREW P.
MARTIN AS MEMBERS.
TERMS TO AUGUST 2nd, 2022 FOR
BRIEFING DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE NICO HERE
FROM SDOT.
>> HI.
>> REMIND US ABOUT THE ADVISORY
BOARD AND WE WILL HAVE THE
APPLICANTS THAT ARE ABLE TO
JOIN US AT THIS MEETING LET US
KNOW WHY THEY WANT TO SERVE AND
HOW THEIR BACKGROUND MIGHT HELP
WITH THE SERVICE, GO AHEAD,
NICO, PLEASE.
>> FANTASTIC.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US ALL
HERE.
I AM NICO MARTINUCCI I AM THE
STAFF LIASON.
BACKGROUND, THE BOARD WAS
CREATED BACK IN 2015 BY THE
CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS ONE OF THE NEWER BOARDS.
THE BOARD HAS 2 MAIN CHARGES,
THE FIRST IS ADVISING THE CITY
AND PARTNERS ON TRANSIT ISSUES
IN THE REGION AND SECOND MORE
SPECIFICALLY THE BOARD PROVIDES
OVERSIGHT OF THE VOTER APPROVED
SEATTLE TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT
PROPOSITION 1 INITIALLY PASSED
BY VOTERS BACK IN 2014 AND
RECENTLY REAPPROVED BY VOTERS
JUST THIS LAST NOVEMBER.
THE BOARD IS MADE UP OF 12
MEMBERS, 6 MAYORAL APPOINTEES.
WE HAVE IN FRONT OF THE
COMMITTEE TODAY ONE
REAPPOINTMENT AND TWO NEW
APPOINTMENTS.
ALL OF WHICH ARE COUNCIL
POSITIONS ON THE BOARD.
ANDREW IS UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT.
ONE OF OUR CURRENT CHAIRS HERE.
NOT ABLE TO JOIN US BUT SANDRO
AND EMERY ARE HERE FOR NEW
APPOINTMENTS FOR THE BOARD
FILLING VACANT POSITIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
AND, TRADITIONALLY WE WILL HEAR
JUST FROM NEW APPOINTEES SO WE
ARE REALLY HAPPY BOTH OF THEM
WERE ABLE TO JOIN AND LOVE TO
HEAR FROM THEM IF THEY WANT TO
SAY A FEW WORDS.
>> WHY DON'T WE START WITH
SANDRO SINCE HE IS FIRST UP ON
THE AGENDA.
>> HI, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU.
SANDRO PANI.
I AM EXCITED TO JOIN THE BOARD.
MY BACKGROUND IS IN TRANSIT
DESIGN AND I SPENT 10 YEARS
DESIGNING DIFFERENT TRANSIT
SYSTEMS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY
RAIL BUT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED
IN BRT PROJECTS.
I AM NEWER TO THE SEATTLE AREA
BUT I HAVE BEEN VISITING FOR 10
YEARS SINCE MY BROTHER HAS MADE
IT A HOME.
MY SECOND HOME.
I AM REALLY EXCITED TO BRING MY
BACKGROUND, MY EXPERIENCE TO
PROVIDE ADVICE AND IMPROVE
TRANSIT WITHIN SEATTLE AND
GREATER REGION.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO
SUPPORTING OUR COUNCILMEMBERS.
>> THANK YOU, SANDRO.
>> NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM EMILY.
>> HI, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME
TODAY.
I AM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON
ORIGINALLY.
I MOVED TO SEATTLE FOR GRADUATE
SCHOOL WHERE I WENT TO EVANS
SCHOOL AND WORKING IN PUBLIC
FINANCE SINCE I GRADUATE FRIDAY
THERE.
NOW IN TRANSIT PUBLIC FINANCE,
MY INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE
TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD WAS
AROUND THE TRANSPORTATION
BENEFIT DISTRICT.
A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO FUND
TRANSIT THAT MANY DISTRICTS
WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF.
NOT EVERYONE HAS BEEN
SUCCESSFUL.
EVERYBODY HAS.
I AM INTEREST INSIDE THAT
PROCESS.
BRINGING IT THE UNDERSTANDING
OF THE TRADE OFFS INVOLVED IN
MAKING CERTAIN DECISIONS BACKED
BY THE FUNDS.
AND THEN IN GENERAL, TRANSIT
USER, TRANSIT WAS MY ACCESS TO
UNITY GROWING UP AS A KID AND
GROWING UP THROUGHOUT MY
CAREER.
TO THIS DAY IF WE GO BACK TO
THE OFFICE IT CERTAINLY WILL BE
HOW I GET THERE AGAIN.
AND I BIKE TO WORK.
I HAVE TAKEN BUSES, I HAVE
TAKEN RAIL.
I AM A TRANSIT USER.
BEYOND THAT I REALLY WANT TO
SEE SEATTLE MOVE TOWARDS
TRANSIT SUPPORTING EVERYDAY
LIFE.
NOT JUST AS A WAY TO GET TO AND
FROM WORK.
I AM INTERESTED IN THINKING
ABOUT HOW WE CAN CREATE A
SYSTEM THAT SUPPORTS THE TRIPS
WE ARE MAKING EVERY DAY IN OUR
LIVES AND INTEGRATING IT NOT
JUST IN OUR WORK LIFE BUT THE
LIVES WE LEAD IN SEATTLE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, EMILY.
APPRECIATE YOU GOING INTO YOUR
BACKGROUND LIKE THAT.
IT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT
ADDITION TO THE BOARD AND THEN
SANTDRO, YOU KNOW THE FACT THAT
YOU ARE AN EXPERIENCED TRANSIT
ENGINEER THAT IS GOING TO BE
GREAT, TO, GREAT FOR THIS
DIVERSITY BRINGING IT TO THE
BOARD AND ANDREW HAS BEEN GREAT
TO WORK WITH.
NOW A CO-CHAIR WHO IS GOING TO
BE REAPPOINTED HOPEFULLY HERE
SHORTLY.
COUNCILMEMBERS I KNOW YOU READ
THE PACKETS ARE THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FOR THESE FOLKS?
>> OKAY.
WELL, I OH, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
>> THIS IS A QUESTION FOR EMERY
AND SANDRO REGARDING BUS RAPID
TRANSIT.
I KNOW PORTLAND AND EUGENE AND
OREGON HAVE GOOD BUS RAPID
TRANSIT PROGRAMS AND SANDRO YOU
WORKED ON IT IN PIERCE COUNTY.
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE
FURTHER BEHIND THAN WHERE WE
WANT TO BE WITH BUS RAPID
TRANSIT IN THE CITY WHAT ARE
THE THINGS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
FIRST TO EITHER IMPROVE THE
SERVICE WE HAVE OR EXPAND IT AS
QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE?
THANK YOU.
>> HAVE COMPLICATED QUESTION
BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY IS
UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY'S
AT NEED AND PRIORITY --
PRIORITIZING THOSE, I THINK
THEY ARE ALREADY PLENTY OF
PROJECTS IN THE WORKS WE HAVE
ROOSEVELT LINE, WE HAVE 405
WITH SOUND TRANSIT.
UNDERSTANDING AND PRIORITIZING
THOSE BASED ON FUNDS I KNOW
THIS PAST YEAR IS GOING TO BE
DIFFICULT AND WORKING WITH THE
DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO MAKE
SURE.
WHAT COMMUNITIES WILL BE HIT
HARDER AND BETTER ACCESS IN THE
NEXT 5 YEARS OR 10 YEARS TO
MAKE SURE WE KNOW TRANSIT
PROJECTS TAKE AWHILE TO BE
CONSTRUCTED.
I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE
MOST IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE
KEEP OUR PEOPLE MOVING.
>> AND I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT
THAT ECHOING WHAT I SAID
BEFORE, IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO
MAKE GOOD USE OF THE SYSTEMS
THEY NEED TO KNOW IT IS 24/7.
IF THEY NEED TO TAKE A SICK KID
TO THE HOSPITAL THEY DON'T HAVE
TO CHECK THE HOSPITAL TO MAKE
SURE THEY ARE DONE WITH THE
APPOINTMENT TO GET HOME THAT
WAY.
FOCUSED ON THE INTEGRATED
SERVICES PROVIDED ACROSS THE
PATTERNS WHERE WE PROVIDE MOST
NEED TRANSIT ACCESS CAN SUPPORT
MAKING REALLY GOOD USE OF THE
SYSTEM.
REGARDLESS OF THE PURPOSE OF
THE TRIP.
>> THANK YOU, THAT IS HELPFUL.
CHAIR PEDERSON, REVIEWING
EMERY, SHE WORKED ON THE TREE
PROGRAM, WE MAY HAVE OTHER
QUESTIONS ON A LATER DATE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR
STRAUSS.
THANKS FOR THE ANSWERS.
HOPEFULLY SDOT WILL NOT HIRE
YOU AWAY BEFORE YOU CAN SERVE
OUT YOUR TERMS HERE.
NICO ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE
TAKE A VOTE?
>> NOTHING TO ADD, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, COUNCILMEMBERS
TRADITIONALLY WE VOTE ON
EVERYTHING AT ONCE BUT I WANT
TO OFFER AND OPPORTUNITY TO
SEPARATE OUT A CANDIDATE IF YOU
WANT A SEPARATE VOTE.
I DON'T SEE ANY INDICATION FOR
THAT HERE.
SO, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE
FOR 017722-017224, ITEMS 7-9 ON
OUR AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE
APPOINTMENTS.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
>> WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE
TO BE FORWARDING TO THE FULL
COUNCIL.
>> HERBOLD, MORALES, STRAUSS,
YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSON.
>> YES.
>> 5 IN FAVOR.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES COME THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THEY
BE SENT FOR THE APPROVAL TO THE
JANUARY 25 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
THANKS, EVERYBODY, THANKS
SANDRO, EMERY AND NICO.
WILL THE CLERK READ THE NEXT
AGENDAS INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEMS 1SEVEN 28 AND
0729.
APPOINTMENT OF EMILY MANNETTI
FOR BRIEF DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU, ANOTHER IMPORTANT
TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD
FOR PEDESTRIANS AND IF ANY
CANDIDATES ARE HERE AND WE WANT
TO HEAR THEIR BACK ROUND AND
WHY THEY WANT TO SERVE.
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR PEDERSON.
>> IT WAS MADE PERMANENT IN
1997.
IT IS 12 MEMBERS INCLUDING OUR
GET ENGAGED YOUNG ADULT MEMBER.
THE CHAIR OVERSEES THE
PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN OR SORRY
THE BOARD OVERSEES THE
PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN AND ALSO
ADVISES COUNCIL AND SDOT AND
THE MAYOR ON DIFFERENT
PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS, PROGRAMS,
POLICIES.
JOINED WITH ME TODAY ARE
JENNIFER LEHMAN AND EMILY
MANNETTI WHO HAVE BEEN
ATTENDING THE LAST SEVERAL
MEETINGS AND EXCITED TO BE
INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD.
AND I WOULD ADD IF APPOINTED OR
IF CONFIRMED JENNIFER LEHMAN
HAS ENDORSEMENT FOR THE VICE
CHAIR ROLE ON THE BOARD DURING
HER 10 YEAR.
LOOKS LIKE BOTH OF THEM ARE ON
THE CALL AND I WILL LET THEM
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
PLEASE, JENNIFER AND EMILY.
>> HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER
LEHMAN.
MY PRO NOUNS ARE SHE/HER.
I INVESTED MY TIME TO MAKE
WALKING, ROLLING, BIKING,
EASIER AND SAFER FOR ALL
ABILITIES THROUGHOUT THE
REGION.
I AM A SOUTH END RESIDENT
LIVING UPHILL FROM THE RAINIER
BEACH, LIGHT RAIL STATION.
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC STRUCK I
WOULD ENJOY THE HALF MILE WALK
BETWEEN MY HOME AND STATION
EACH DAY TO GET TO AND FROM TO
WORK.
I ADD THERE A WAY TO CONTRIBUTE
TO MY COMMUNITY TO MAKE SEATTLE
ACCESSIBLE.
BY DAY I WORK ON FINANCIAL
PLANNING ISSUES FOR KING COUNTY
PARKS AND I THINK THIS WORK FOR
THE SEATTLE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY
BOARD ADVANCES THE VISION OF A
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT
OFFERS MORE CHOICES WHILE
PRESERVING ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY
>> THANK YOU.
>> EMILY?
>> HI EVERYONE, I AM EMILY
MANETTI, SINCE MOVING TO
SEATTLE SINCE 2007 I BASICALLY
DEDICATED MY CAREER TO
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THROUGH
A VARIETY OF AND MY FREE TIME,
YOU KNOW, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME
WORKING ON TRANSIT AND HIGHWAY
PROJECTS.
IT WAS NOT UNTIL I WORKED FOR A
PREVIOUS EMPLOYER, THE DOWNTOWN
SEATTLE ASSOCIATION THAT I SAW
THE WAY HOW IT HELPS US THRIVE
AND HOW WE CONNECT TO THE
MULTIBILLION INVESTMENTS MADE
THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS.
SO I LIVE IN THE ROOSEVELT
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAVE THE FUTURE PLEASURE OF
WALKING TO THE LIGHT RAIL
STATION VERY CLOSE BY.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, THERE JUST HAS BEEN A
VARIETY OF WAYS THAT MOVING
THROUGH THE CITY ON FOOT HAS
CHANGED THROUGHOUT THE COURSE
OF TIME IN SEATTLE.
AND BEING A PARENT OF YOUNG
KIDS AND HAVING A STROLLER I
GOT JUST A GLIMPSE INTO THE
INSIDE OF WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE
TO HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY AND
THERE IS JUST -- I AM A
PASSIONATE PEDESTRIAN AND
THROUGH COVID-19 I LEARNED TO
APPRECIATE THEM MORE.
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY I AM
MOVING AND WEAR BECAUSE I AM
NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
KEEPING AN EYE TOWARDS THOSE
SORTS OF ENVIRONMENTS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND MAKING
SURE PEOPLE HAVE EQUAL ACCESS
TO GOOD PEDESTRIAN NETWORKS IS
WHAT I
CARE THE MOST ABOUT.
>> THANK YOU, EMILY.
COUNCILMEMBERS I KNOW YOU READ
THE APPLICATION PACKETS IF YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
ABOUT THE APPLICANTS OR THE
BOARD?
>> OKAY.
>> YES, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I ALSO JUST WANT TO THANK
EVERYBODY FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS,
YOUR EAGERNESS TO SERVE.
PARTICULARLY ON THE PEDESTRIAN
ADVISORY BOARD.
I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
AS YOU ALL SAID THAT WE ARE
VERY DELIBERATE IN MAKING SURE
THAT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T DRIVE OR
CLOSE NOT TO DRIVE CAN STILL
MOVE AROUND THE CITY IN A WAY
THAT IS SAFE AND GETS THEM TO
THE PLACES THEY NEED TO BE.
SO, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMITMENT TO MAKING SURE AND
HOLDING US TO OUR COMMITMENTS
TO INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WALK AND
ROLL AND BIKE TO THE PLACES
THEY NEED TO GET.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
SAFETY AND THE COMMON GROUND ON
THAT.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE BOARD AND THE
VOLUNTEERS ON IT.
COUNCILMEMBERS ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
>> YES, VICE CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR PEDERSON.
>> EMILY WE HAD SO MANY WALKS
DOWNTOWN LOOKING FOR QUICK WINS
AND HOW TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN
EXPERIENCE.
AND JENNIFER IT IS GREAT TO
HAVE YOU HERE.
FOR JENNIFER SINCE YOU ARE IN
STRATEGIC AND PROJECT
MANAGEMENT COULD YOU SHARE WITH
US WHAT YOU THINK HAS GONE WELL
DURING COVID-19 TO
PEDESTRIANIZE THE CITY AND WHAT
TO DO NEXT AND EMILY WHAT DO WE
PLEAD TO ACCOMPLISH IN AND
AROUND THE ROOSEVELT STATION
BEFORE IT OPENS.
>> SURE.
THERE IS ACTUALLY A TOPIC OF
CONVERSATION AT OUR RETREAT
LAST WEEK AS WELL AS OVER THE
LAST FEW MEETINGS.
I THINK I AM IMPRESSED WITH THE
SWIFTNESS OF THE CITY THAT IT
HAS TAKEN IN IMPLEMENTING THE
STAY HEALTHY STREETS.
THE KEEP MOVING STREETS.
WATCHING THE WIDE ARRAY OF
OPTIONS AND CHOICES AND THE
COMMUNITIES AND DIFFERENT
AVENUES FOR COMMUNITIES TO THEN
BE INVOLVED IN AND REACH OUT TO
THE CITY TO GET MORE
INFRASTRUCTURE OR TOOLS AND
OPTIONS FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT
PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE IN
THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SOME AREAS TO GO NEXT, I THINK,
THAT WE HAVE BEEN GRAPPLING
WITH HOW TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
NOT IN COMPETITION WITH EACH
OTHER AND HOW -- WE WERE VERY
FAVORABLE AND FANS OF THE STAY
HEALTHY STRETS AND THERE HAS
BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION
ABOUT HOW DO WE KEEP THEM
MOVING AND EXPAND OUR
NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
>> AS FOR ROOSEVELT, I AM
FORTUNATE BECAUSE THERE ARE
THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UNDERWAY.
>> FOR EXAMPLE 65th THAT IS IN
FRONT OF THE LIGHT RAIL STATION
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS PART OF
THE SAFETY PROGRAM BUT THEY ADD
BIKE LANES AND THEN NARROWED
THE STREETS AND ADDING PARKING
SO TRAFFIC JUST SLOWED DOWN.
WE DID HAVE A PEDESTRIAN
FATALITY AT 20th AND 65th A
COUPLE YEARS AGO.
ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN FATALITY AT
12th AND 65th.
SO, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE
MADE A MAJOR CHANGE FOR THE
BETTER.
I KNOW TRAFFIC BACKS UP PRE-
COVID-19 BUT JUST THE FACT THAT
CARS ARE MOVING SLOWER AND
PEOPLE ARE RUNNING FOR THE BUS
AND ULTIMATELY RUNNING FOR
LIGHT RAIL IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU JUST
MORE BENEFITS BECAUSE I AM
HAPPY WITH ALL OF THEM BUT THEY
ALSO ADDED TURN SIGNALS ON 65th
AND 15th SIGNAL THAT IS
WONDERFUL.
IT IS A REALLY SCARY
INTERSECTION.
AND WITH ALL OF THE TOD GOING
IN, THAT IS ALSO GREAT, THERE
IS JUST GOING TO BE A LOT MORE
MOVEMENT OF PEDESTRIANS AND
CARS AS WELL.
SO, THOSE INTERSECTION
IMPROVEMENTS ARE HUGE.
THEY ARE MAKING -- THEY BEING
SDOT DOING THIS, THEY HAVE A
PROJECT UNDERWAY ON 15th AVENUE
TO RESTRIPE BIKE LANES AT 24-
HOUR PARKING WHICH AGAIN
NARROWS THE STREET FROM SORT OF
A FREE FOR ALL 4-LANE CHAOS
INTO A 1-LANE IN EACH DIRECTION
STREET THAT IS, AGAIN, A
BEAUTIFUL THING.
RAPID FLASHING BEACON THAT
CONNECTS THE GREEN WAY ON 62nd
AND CONNECTS PEOPLE THROUGH THE
PARK.
SO, I AM -- I AM VERY PLEASED
WITH WHAT I HAVE SEEN HAPPEN IN
ANTICIPATION OF LIGHT RAIL AND
THE FATALITIES THAT HAVE
HAPPENED.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN ALL
OF THE TOD IS BUILT AND THE
LIGHT RAIL STATION IS UP AND
RUNNING.
TO SEE HOW CAR/PEDESTRIAN/BUS
INTERSECTIONS HAPPEN AT 12th
AND ROOSEVELT.
I WILL KEEP MY EYE ON IT.
WE WILL SEE.
WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
SO FAR I HAVE BEEN THRILLED
WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT
HAVE COME TO ROOSEVELT.
>> THANK YOU, EMILY AND
JENNIFER ANY MORE QUESTIONS
COUNCILMEMBERS?
WE CAN VOTE ON ALL OF THESE
TOGETHER TPH-LTS YOU WANT TO
SEPARATE ONE OUT.
OKAY.
WE WILL VOTE ON ALL OF THEM
TOGETHER.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
APPOINTMENTS 01728 AND 01729
THAT ARE ITEMS 10 AND LINE ON
OUR AGENDA.
IS THERE A 2nd.
>> SECOND.
>> ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
>> OKAY.
WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE ON
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
THAT THE 2 APPOINTMENTS BE
APPROVED FOR FORWARDING TO THE
FULL COUNCIL?
>> GONZALEZ, YES, HERBOLD, YES,
MORALES, YES, STRAUSS, YES,
CLAIRE PEDERSON, YES,.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
>> THE APPOINTMENTS BE SENT FOR
APPROVAL FOR JANUARY 25th CITY
COUNCIL MEETING.
WILL THE CLERK READ THE NEXT
APPOINTMENT INTO THE RECORD?
>>> AGENDA ITEM 12, APPOINTMENT
1730, OF PEACHES THOMAS AS A
PWEPLER OF SEATTLE SCHOOL
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO A
TERM OF MARCH 31st, 2023 FOR
BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
AND I SEE PEACHES IS HERE.
HI AND THEN WE HAVE JENNIFER
FROM SDOT.
DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THIS
BOARD AND TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT IT?
WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR
APPLICANT.
>> HI, YES.
THANK YOU.
THE SEATTLE SCHOOL TRAFFIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IN
1975 TO BRING TOGETHER SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THE CITY, AND
PARENTS TO IMPROVE SAFE ROUTES
TO SCHOOLS.
WITH VOLUNTARY BOARD OF 11
MEMBER THAT EP CENTS SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION, SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, KING COUNTY METRO
AND PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE AND
PARENT ADVOCATES, THEY RESPOND
TO CROSSING GUARD ASSIGNMENTS,
PLACEMENT OF CROSSING GUARDS
AND TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLANS
FOR SCHOOLS.
WE DO HAVE PEACHES ON TODAY, I
WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER A MINUTE
TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AS OUR NEW
APPOINTEE.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS PEACHES THOMAS, SHE
PRONOUNCES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY
I APPRECIATE THE DEDICATION TO
SAFETY EVEN IN THIS PANDEMIC.
AS A MOTHER OF THREE SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS I REALLY
BELIEVE THAT EVERY STUDENT
DESERVES A SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE
CONNECTION TO GET TO AND FROM
SCHOOL.
I HAVE SEEN HOW DANGEROUS IT
CAN BE FOR STAFF, STUDENTS AND
FAMILIES AS A FORMER CROSSING
GUARD, I SERVED AT CONCORD FOR
THREE YEARS AND OFTEN FAMILIES
WOULD COME TO ME ABOUT CONCERNS
ABOUT CROSSWALKS, TRAFFIC
LIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS AND
SEARCHING FOR THOSE ANSWERS LED
ME TO BECOME INVOLVES WITH
PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST
ADVOCACY.
SOME OF THE NOTABLE PROJECTS I
HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH ARE THE
SOUTH PARK TRAILS, LAST YEAR I
CO-LED OUTREACH ON THE PILOT
PROJECTIN SOUTH PARK.
AND IT WAS INVOLVED IN THESE
PROJECTS THAT GAVE ME A NEW
PERSPECTIVE AND CAUSED ME TO
NOTICE SOME OF THE INEQUITIES
THAT EXIST IN CAPITOL
INVESTMENT.
I REALLY WANT TO USE MY VOICE
TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE THAT ARE
OFTEN UNDER REPRESENTED IN
THESE CONVERSATIONS.
IF SELECTED TO BE ON THIS
COMMITTEE I WOULD BRING A
UNIQUE BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE AS
A MOTHER, TRANSPORTATION
ADVOCATE, COMMUNITY ORGANIZER
AND FORMER CROSSING GUARD.
I AM PASSIONATE FOR SAFETY
ROUTES TO SCHOOL AND TRAFFIC
PATTERNS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE
AND EQUITABLE FOR ALL, THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK
YOU, BOTH.
COUNCILMEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU.
NOT A QUESTION JUST REALLY
WANTING TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR
AND THANK PEACHES FOR HER
WONDERFUL WORK IN DISTRICT 1.
PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO
ORGANIZING AND LEADING THE HOME
ZONE OUT REACH IN SOUTH PARK AS
WELL AS GETTING FOLKS TOGETHER
AROUND THE SOUTH
PARK/GEORGETOWN TRAIL.
I LOVE YOUR STORY OF BEING A
PARENT, BEING A CROSSING GUARD
AND NOW BEING A TRANSPORTATION
POLICY EXPERT.
AND I JUST KNOW FROM THE WORK
THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND FROM THE
FOLKS THAT YOU HELPED BRING TO
CITY COUNCIL TO ADVOCATE HOW
INSPIRED PEOPLE ARE BY YOUR
LEADERSHIP, REALLY, REALLY GLAD
THAT YOU ARE FINDING ANOTHER
WAY TO GIVE BACK TO YOUR
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD FOR
SAYING THAT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR PEDERSON AND
COLLEAGUES FOR ASKING SO MANY
QUESTIONS, PEACHES ARE THERE
QUICK WINS OR LONG-TERM
INVESTMENT IN CAPITOL PROJECTS
WE NEED TO GET DONE BEFORE
SCHOOLS REOPEN?
>> I WOULD SAY I DON'T KNOW IF
IT IS CAPITOL INVESTMENT BUT
HAVING A SAFE ROUTE COORDINATOR
IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I THINK AS A PARENT AND ALSO
CROSSING GUARD AND
TRANSPORTATION ADVOCATE NOT
HAVING SOMEONE TO BRING
TOGETHER ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
PIECES MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT
úFOR FAMILIES TO KNOW WHO TO
CONTACT OR TO EVEN KNOW WHAT TO
TELL STUDENTS AND FAMILIES THAT
ARE WONDERING HOW TO GET THEIR
KIDS TO SCHOOL, FOR FOLKS THAT
DO NOT OWN VEHICLES WHICH IS A
REALITY FOR A LOT OF FOLKS
LIVING IN SEATTLE.
IT IS A MISSING PIECE THAT
NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
AND THEN ALSO IT IS REALLY
ESSENTIAL IF WE ARE GOING TO --
IF WE WANT TO SEE PROGRESS OF
PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING AND
SEEING THEM DO THAT.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE
COORDINATE ALL OF THOSE THINGS
SO IT DOES NOT FALL ON THE
SHOULDERS OF SOMEONE WHO IS NOT
REALLY INVOLVED IN THIS AND THE
BURDEN FALLS ON OTHER PLACE
THAT IT SHOULDN'T.
AND HAVING THIS COMMITTEE AT
ALL IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS ALL
OF THE CORDINATION AND -- MY
APOLOGIZES, HAVING ALL OF THESE
PEOPLE COMING FROM DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS AND DIFFERENT
P█EOPLE INVOLVED AND HAVING THE
CORDINATION IT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BETTER
TRANSPARENCY FOR PARENTS.
AND THEN BETTER EDUCATION AND
RESOURCES FOR FOLKS.
I THINK THAT IS MISSING.
WE HAVE THE COMMITTEES, WE HAVE
THE BOARDS BUT WHAT IS MISSING
IS TIME WHERE THE FAMILIES ARE
NOT INFORMED OF WHAT IS GOING
ON AND IT LEAVES THEM OUT AND
NOT THE ABILITY HAVE THOSE
VOICES HEARD.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR
QUESTION.
>> IT ABSOLUTELY DOES?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU ARE VERY WELCOME.
>> EXCITED TO HAVE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBERS ANY MORE
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE
VOTE?
EXCELLENT.
L THANK YOU, AGAIN, PEACHES AND
THANK YOU, JENNIFER FOR COMING
HERE AS WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
APPOINTMENT APPROVAL IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THIS
APPOINTMENT ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
AND THE COMMITTEE L THE ROLE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE
APPOINTMENT BE APPROVED FOR
FORWARDING TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> ABSOLUTELY YES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSON.
>> YES.
>> 5 IN FAVOR.
>> EXCELLENT.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND IT BE
SENT TO A PROPPAL FOR THE
COUNCILMEMBER.
CONGRATULATIONS PEACHES.
WELCOME.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
APPOINTMENTS.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
NEXT SET OF APPOINTMENTS INTO
THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 13-15.
APPOINTMENTS 1725, THREE
APPOINTS OF GROVES, HAUL AND
TAYLOR.
AS MEMBERS OF THE SEATTLE
BICYCLE ADVISORY BOARDS FOR
TERMS THROUGH AUGUST 31st,
2022, FOR BRIEF DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
WE HAVE SIMON WITH US TELL US
ABOUT THE BIKE ADVISORY BOARD
AND WE WILL HEAR FROM SOME OF
THE APPOINTMENTS OR I THINK
THESE ARE ALL RE APPOINTMENTS
SO TELL US ABOUT THE BOARD, FOR
THE PUBLIC MAINLY AND WE WILL
TALK ABOUT THE APPOINTMENTS.
>> RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK
YOU CHAIR PEDERSON.
I AM SIMON BLENSKI.
THE BIKE BOARD HAS A VISION TO
MAKE SEATTLE WORLD CLASS CITY
FOR BIKING AND MAKING BIKING A
CLOSE BY ENCOURAGING ACTIVE
PARTICIPATION AND POLICY AND
PLANNING EFFORTS THROUGHOUT ALL
OF THE GOVERNMENT AND TO BUILD
INCLUSIVE BICYCLING COMMUNITY
BY REPRESENTING THE NEEDS OF
DIVERSE POPULATION.
THEY -- I AM HERE RECOMMENDING
THREE REAPPOINTMENTS.
THEY ARE ALL COUNCIL
REAPPOINTMENTS OR COUNCIL-
APPOINTED POSITIONS, THE NAMES
WERE READ OFF.
KASHINA GROVES, MEREDITH HALL
AND PATRICK TAYLOR.
ALL INVOLVED AND THEY HAVE
ELEVATED THE PROJECTS AND THE
BOARD'S WORK.
>> THANK YOU, SIMON.
AND, AS WE KNOW WE TYPICALLY
HEAR JUST FROM NEW APPOINTEES.
THESE ARE THREE REAPPOINTMENTS
BUT COUNCILMEMBERS YOU READ THE
PACKETS DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS
FOR SIMON BEFORE WE TAKE A
VOTE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> YOU KNOW, I WILL HOLD MY
QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, COUNCIL,
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> SURE, OF COURSE.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS JUST AN
OPPORTUNITY IF WANT TO PULL OUT
ANY PARTICULAR ITEMS TO VOTE
SEPARATELY OTHERWISE WE WILL
VOTE ON ALL THREE
REAPPOINTMENTS TOGETHER.
>> OKAY.
SO I WOULD LIKE NOW TO MOVE TO
HAVE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF 01725 THROUGH
01727.
ITEM NUMBERS 13-15 ON OUR
AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU, MOVED AND
SECONDED.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
>> OKAYWILL THE CLERK CALL THE
ROLE FOR THESE APPOINTMENTS TO
BE APPROVED FOR FORWARDING TO
THE FULL COUNCIL.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSON.
>> YES.
>> 5 IN FAVOR.
>> EXCELLENT.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
RECOMMENDATION WILL GO TO THE
FULL COUNCIL TO VOTE ON THESE
ON JANUARY 25.
>>> WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG
FOLKS.
WILL THE CLERK MOVE THE NEXT
SET OF APPOINTMENTS INTO THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16 AND
17, APPOINT THES 1720 AND 1721,
ANNE AYRE AND JOHN PUTZ FOR
CITY LIGHTS REVIEW FOR
BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND VOTE.
>> WE ARE SWITCHING GEARS NOW,
WE ARE ON THE SEATTLE CITY
LIGHTS REVIEW PANEL.
THANK YOU, WE HAVE LEIGH HERE,
WHY DON'T YOU TELL US ABOUT THE
PANEL AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE
NEW APPOINTMENT.
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
AGAIN I AM LEIGH BARRECA, I
MANAGE THE TEAM AT CITY LIGHT.
I AM ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE
REVIEW PANEL.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THE
CITY LIGHT REVIEW PANEL WAS
ESTABLISH INSIDE 2010 THROUGH
CITY ORDINANCE 123256.
AT THE TIME THE PANEL COMBINED
THE DUTIES OF 2 FORMER GROUPS.
THE CITY LIGHT ADVISORY BOARD
AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THE ROLE OF THE CURRENT PANEL
IS TO PROVIDE IMPUT ON CITY
LIGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
OUR PLAN AS WELL AS THE RATE
PATH.
THE PANEL CONSISTS OF 9 MEMBERS
REPRESENTING OUR DIVERSE
STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE AN ECONOMIST, FINANCIAL
ANALYST, A NONPROFIT
REPRESENTATIVE, NONPROFIT
ENERGY EFFICIENCY I SHOULD SAY,
REPRESENTATIVE, A COMMERCIAL
CUSTOMER REPRESENTATIVE,
RESIDENTIAL REPRESENTATIVE,
INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMER
REPRESENTATIVE, A LOW INCOME
CUSTOMER REPRESENTATIVE, A
SUBURBAN FRANCHISE CITY
REPRESENTATIVE AND A MEMBER AT
LARGE.
FOUR OF THESE POSITIONS ARE
APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL.
5 BY THE MAYOR.
2 APPOINTMENTS, BOTH OF WHICH
ARE COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, ONE
IS FOR REAPPOINTMENT AND THE
OTHER IS A NEW APPOINTMENT.
FIRST, WE ARE SUBMITTING DR.
JOHN PUTZ TO THE MEMBER AT
LARGE POSITION, THIS WILL BE
JOHN'S SECOND TERM ON THE
PANEL.
JOHN IS A 15 YEAR VETERAN OF
THE ENERGY SOFTWARE AND TRADING
INDUSTRY.
HE RECEIVED HIS PHD IN
EXPERIMENTAL PARTICLE PHYSICS
FROM UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON,
HE WAS ENGAGED AND VALUABLE
MEMBER TO THE GROUP IN HIS
FIRST TERM.
OUR SECOND NOMINATION FOR A NEW
PANEL MEMBER IS TO REPRESENT
OUR INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ANNE
AYRE.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AS WE SAID
MY MAIM IS ANNE AYRE.
I GREW UP IN MONTANA UNDER GRAD
OF A SMALL SCHOOL THERE.
I STUDIED GEOLOGY.
PRIOR TO MOVING TO SEATTLE I
WORKED AS A MINING TKPWEOL
GIFT, CAME TO SEATTLE FOR
CONSULTING AND FOR THE LAST 3-
1/2 YEARS I HAVE BEEN THE
ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER FOR
PORTLAND A SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMER.
I AM ALSO A CITY LIGHT -- I AM
A SEATTLE RESIDENT AND CITY
LIGHT RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER AS
WELL.
I -- WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THE PANEL OF WHAT I WOULD
SEE AS A COMPLEX PROBLEMS
FACING PUBLIC UTILITY AT THIS
TIME.
I BELIEVE THAT A COLLABORATIVE
EFFORT IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY
WAY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO
BALANCE THE DIVERSE
STAKEHOLDERS THEY NEED TO
SERVE.
ON A PERSONAL LEVEL I AM A
STRONG ADVOCATE FOR INDUSTRY
BUT I ALSO STRONGLY BELIEVE IN
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSCIOUSNESS.
WHILE I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
POSSIBILITY OF WORKING WITH THE
PANEL AND DELIVERING MY
PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU ANNE ANY
QUESTIONS?
>> ALL RIGHT AND
COUNCILMEMBERS, THE SEATTLE
REVIEW PANEL IS A REALLY STRONG
PANEL.
A LOT OF DEEP EXPERIENCE IN THE
UTILITY WORLD AND YOU KNOW IT
IS A $1 BILLION ENTERPRISE AS
WE KNOW.
THEY ARE WORKING HARD TO KEEP
RATES LOW SINCE EVERYBODY HAS
TO PAY THEM.
AND, IT IS -- IT IS AN AMAZING
OPERATION THE MORE I LEARN
ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON THE
AGENDA TODAY SHOWING THE VAST
RELM OF SEATTLE CITY LIGHT WE
WILL VOTE ON LATER TODAY.
SO, YES, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANNE IS THERE ANYTHING --
IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE
MADE IMMEDIATELY FROM YOUR
PERSPECTIVE OR ARE THERE THINGS
THAT ARE GO PARTICULARLY WELL
AS THE INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMER
SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE?
>> SURE.
I WOULD SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED THINGS
ARE GOING VERY WELL FOR
INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS.
WE ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN
INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING YEAR AND
WE ARE ALL STILL RECEIVING
SERVICE WITHOUT DELAY.
SO, IN SHORT THAT HAS BEEN
EXCELLENT AND I DON'T THINK --
I DEFINITELY THINK IT IS AN
ACHIEVEMENT CONSIDERING THE
STATE OF ALL THINGS.
AS FOR AS QUICK FIXES, I DON'T
NECESSARILY SEE ANYTHING QUICK.
BECAUSE FRANKLY WITH MY LIMITED
TOE-DIPPING RIGHT NOW I SEE THE
PROBLEMS FACING SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT AS COMPLEX.
THEY NEED TO UPDATE AND
MAINTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE.
MAINTAINING RELIABLE SERVICE.
NOT SACRIFICING AFFORDABILITY.
CERTAINLY A CHALLENGING SET OF
CIRCUMSTANCES LOOKING INTO FOR
THE LONG-TERM.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUR
FEEDBACK DEMONSTRATES THE
ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE
COMPLEX VARIABLES THAT CITY
LIGHTEN GAGES WITH.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBERS,
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR
APPLICANT?
>> GREAT.
SO, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE
NOW.
COUNCILMEMBERS IF YOU WANT TO
HAVE TWO SEPARATE VOTES.
NORMALLY WE VOTE BOTH OF THEM
TOGETHER IF YOU DON'T MIND.
OKAY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF
APPOINTMENT 01720 AND 01721.
INCOME 16 AND 17 ON OUR AGENDA
IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED,
RECOMMEND PASSAGE, ANY FINAL
COMMENTS?
>> WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE
ON THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
THAT THESE TWO APPOINTMENTS BE
APPROVED TO FORWARDING OF THE
WHOLE CITY COUNCIL.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSON.
>> YES.
>> 5 IN FAVOR.
>> THANK YOU, THE MOTION
CARRIES AND THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE
APPOINTMENTS SENT TO APPROVAL
OF THE JANUARY 25 CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
THANK YOU ANNE AND THANK YOU
LEIGH.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WILL YOU READ THE NEXT SHORT
AGENDA.
AGENDA ITEM 18.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT
AUTHORIZING THE A SEPTANCE OF
THE STATUTORY WARRANT DEED FOR
GLACIER VIEW RANCH PROPERTY IN
SKAGIT COUNTY FOR A BRIEF
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
OKAY.
WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE OUR GENERAL
MANAGER DEBRA SMITH AND OTHER
ABOUT FOLKS FROM SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR
CENTRAL STAFF TO OFFER IF HE
WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING.
I UNDERSTAND HE IS PROBABLY
FINE NOT TO.
ERIC I WANTED TO SAY HI AND
THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
ANYTHING TO INTRODUCE THIS
ITEM?
>> WELL, NOT MUCH.
I THINK I WILL LET FOLKS JUMP
IN, THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING
ME.
I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I HAD A COUPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO
HEAR ABOUT THESE ITEMS AND THEY
ARE FAMILIAR TO OTHER THINGS WE
HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
I WILL FRAME UP THIS ITEM
BEFORE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TO
RECOMMEND OR NOT, THE CITY'S
CHARTER ALLOWS CITY COUNCIL
ACCEPT PROPERTY, ACCEPT THE
DEEDS BUT THIS PROPERTY HAS
BEEN PURCHASED ALREADY BY
AUTHORITY GRANTED TO THEM.
WITHOUT MUCH TO DO I THINK I
WILL GET OUT OF THE WAY AND LET
FOLKS TAKE IT FROM HERE.
>> I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AS
L. LET'S HEAR FROM DEBRA SMITH.
>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING
TO ADD I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY JUST WANTED TO STOP
IN AND SAY HELLO.
I ALWAYS LOVE TO SEE OUR CITY
COUNCIL CHAIRS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE
GIRL.
IT WAS WORTH STOPPING IN JUST
SO I CAN ENJOY THE BABY TIME.
WITH THAT I AM GOING TO GO
STRAIGHT TO TOM DEBOER.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I AM TOM DEBOER.
I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.
I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN AND WALK
YOU THROUGH IT.
>> YES, PLEASE, THANK YOU.
>> HERE SO YOU CAN SEE.
>> YES.
>> THERE IS THE A PROFFERRAL
-- APPROVAL OF A DEED THAT WE
PURCHASED.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
UP AND ALONG THE SKAGIT RIVER
LOOKING INTO THE -- UP THE
RIVER IN THE PROPERTY TWO
THIRDS OF THE PROPERTY IN THE
FOREGROUND FROM THE SKAGIT
HYDROPROJECTS IN THE BACKGROUND
THERE.
THERE IS A PROPERTY WE PUNCHED
PURSUE -- PURCHASED, IT WAS
APPROVED BACK IN 1996 AND THERE
ARE MULTIPLE PIECES TO THAT
LICENSE, ONE OF WHICH WILDLIFE
PROTECTION AND LAND MANAGEMENT
PLAN THAT WAS AGREED TO BY ALL
OF THE PARTIES TO THE
PROCEEDING AND IT WAS
IMPLEMENTED BY A SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT.
ONE OF OUR LICENSE
REQUIREMENTS.
IT REQUIRES US, THIS PARTICULAR
ONE REQUIRES US TO SPEND $17
MILLION TO ACQUIRE AND MAINTAIN
HABITAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
PROJECT.
WE HAVE CURRENTLY SPENT WITH
THIS ACQUISITION $16.9 MILLION.
IT IS OUR LAST ACQUISITION
UNDER THIS PROGRAM FOR THE
WILDLIFE.
THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT
WE WILL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A
MINUTE.
TODAY, UNDER THE AGREEMENT WE
PURCHASED 10,000 ACRES.
SO, THE PROPERTY WE HAVE BEEN
NEGOTIATING AND LOOKING FOR
PROPERTY FOR SOME TIME.
WE COMPLETED IT BACK IN 2019.
THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROPERTY
FOR 140 ACRES WAS JUST OVER
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND IT IS COMPLETE.
IT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 1996
THAT REQUIRED OR ALLOWED US TO
PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND COME
TO CITY COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE
DEED AFTER THE FACT.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING
HERE TODAY.
THIS IS A MAP OF THE LOCATION.
A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON HERE
THAT I WILL POINT OUT.
THE PROPERTY, THE GLACIER VIEW
RANCH IS UNDER THE STAR THERE.
THE GREE PARCELS ARE THE
PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE
ACQUIRED UNDER THIS WILDLIFE
PROGRAMS.
JUST OVER 10,000 ACRES.
YOU CAN SEE THEY RUN UP AND
DOWN THE SKAGIT RIVER AND CROSS
OVER INTO THE BASIN.
WE HAVE TWO OTHER PROGRAMS THAT
ARE MANAGED, ONE BY A SEPARATE
AGREEMENT ON THE LICENSE AND
THE OTHER ONE, PURSUE ANT
ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
ONE RELATED, BOTH RELATED TO
FISH.
ONE IS A FISH HABITAT
ACQUISITION AND THAT IS IN THE
BLUE PARTS, IT IS DIFFICULT TO
SEE BECAUSE THEY ARE SMALLER
AND LOCATED ALONG THE RIVER.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PARCELS
ALONG THE SKAGIT RIVER AND THEN
AN ESA PROGRAM WHERE WE GO OUT
AND ACQUIRE HABITAT TO HELP
ENDANGERED SPECIES.
WE LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR
PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT IS A NARROW PHOTO.
YOU WILL SEE THE OUT LINE
THERE.
IT INCLUDES THE TREE AREA THAT
RUNS ALONG THE WESTERN OR THE
LEFT HAND PART OF THE PROPERTY.
IT IS SALMON CREEK RUNNING INTO
THE SKAGIT RIVER.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SALMON
HABITAT ON THIS.
THE PROGRAM WAS DESIGNED TO
BENEFIT WILDLIFE AND BIRDS.
BUT, WE ALSO LOOK FOR BENEFITS
TO BENEFIT FISH WHEREVER WE
CAN.
IT IS BOUNDED BY -- WE LOOK FOR
PROPERTIES UNDER THE PROGRAM,
THE SETTLEMENT PLAN LAYS OUT
THE CRITERIA.
LOOKING FOR LARGE PARCELS,
UPLAND FROM THE RIVER, WE LIKE
TO HAVE THEM ADJACENT TO OTHER
-- OTHER OF OUR OWN PROPERTIES
OR IN THIS CASE ON THE TOP SIDE
OF THE PICTURE IT IS U.S.
FOREST LAND AND ON THE LEFT
SIDE OF THE PICTURE IT IS U.S.
DEPARTMENT OR WASHINGTON
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE
LANDS.
WE LIKE THE WHOLE POINT IS TO
IMPROVE HABITAT.
WE CONNECT THEM TO EXISTING
HABITAT IT HELPS.
THE PICTURE DOWN BELOW SLOWS
LOOKING ACROSS TO THE EAST
ACROSS THE PROPERTY AND BEING
USED ON THE WESTERN ONE THIRD
AND HAYFIELDS ON THE EASTERN
TWO THIRDS.
FOR THE TIME BEING WE WILL
CONTINUE TO ALLOW THOSE TO
OPERATE UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT
ELSE TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY
SOME SOMETIME IN THE NEAR
FUTURE.
THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT THERE
IS A PICTURE THE CREEK THAT
RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
IT RUNS BY THE TRANSMISSION
LINE, IT IS THIS DIAGONAL LINE
OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY OR
OFF OF THE EDGE OF THE
PROPERTY.
THAT IS THE TRANSITION LINE
COMING FROM THE SKAGIT
PROJECTS.
SO, WITH THAT, I WILL JUST
OTHERS AGAIN, WE ARE HERE
SEEKING APPROVAL, COUNCIL
APPROVAL TO ACCEPT THE DEED AND
I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF
I CAN.
>> TOM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
PRESENTATION.
I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND
CHAIR PEDERSON INTERRUPT ME IF
-- I SEE YOU NOW.
>> PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TOM, THERE IS HELPFUL
INFORMATION.
UNDERSTANDING IT IS THE LAST
PROJECT AS PART OF THE 10,000
ACRES AND $17 MILLION FIGURES
WE WILL BE USING.
AS WE RENEW THE LICENSE IN 2025
DO YOU FORESEE US ENGAGING IN A
PROCESS SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE
WE ARE PURCHASING LAND FOR
WILDLIFE BENEFIT?
>> YES.
WE WILL DO THAT GOING FORWARD.
WE HAVE BEGUN THE PROCESS OF,
THE NEW LICENSE THAT WILL START
IN 2025.
AND A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS, A
LOT OF PIECES TO IT OBVIOUSLY.
WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AND
PROTECTION ARE ALREADY BIG
PIECES OF IT THAT WE ANTICIPATE
THERE WILL BE AT A MINIMUM
WILDLIFE PROTECTION MANAGEMENT
PLAN IF WE ACCOMPLISH IT BY
SETTLEMENT OR THIRD QUARTER WE
WILL HAVE SOME NEW PROJECTS
GOING FORWARD UNDER THE NEW
LICENSE UNDOUBTEDLY.
>> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.
YOU MENTIONED WHAT YOU DO TO
THE LAND.
DEVELOPMENTS FOR EITHER THE
ANIMALS, THE BIRDS, THE SALMON.
CAN YOU GIVE US A PREVIEW IF
YOU HAVE ONE OF WHAT YOU WILL
PHYSICALLY ALTER?
HOW YOU WILL PHYSICALLY ALTER
THIS LAND?
>> THE MANAGEMENT PLAN
ACTUALLY, THE PURPOSE OF THE
PLAN IS TO MANAGE WILDLIFE
HABITAT.
IT LAYS IT OUT WE ARE NOT TO DO
MUCH WITH THE LAND.
SO, ON THIS PARTICULAR
PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, WE MAY,
DEPENDING -- WE WILL DO MORE
WORK ON THE CREEK TO SEE IF WE
WILL APPROVE IT FOR SALMON
HABITAT.
IT DOES CROSS TO THE SOUTH.
PRIVATE PROPERTY BEFORE IT
JOINS THE RIVER.
WE MAY HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT
PRIVATE LANDOWNER IF NEED BE TO
GET ACCESS THERE TO IMPROVE
THAT HABITAT.
NORMALLY WE WOULD -- THE
MAINTENANCE, IT IS PUBLIC LAND,
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BUT WE WANT
TO KEEP ANY TRESPASSERS THERE
FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE
NOT ALLOWED OR WE HAD PROBLEMS
WITH, YOU KNOW, TRASH AND THAT
KIND OF STUFF.
SO WE CLEAN THAT UP.
THE PARCEL OF LAND.
I WILL PULL THIS MAP UP TO THE
SOUTH OF US, THE GREEN BLOCK
THERE, IT IS ONE OF THE BIGGER
PARCELS.
THAT IS AT THE CREEK.
WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON
THE CREEK IMPROVING THE HABITAT
AS IT FLOWS IN THE RIVER.
JUST DEPENDS ON THE PARCEL AND
THAT IS ALSO A BIG BALD EAGLE
NESTING AREA.
SO WE HAVE DONE SNAGS AND OTHER
IMPROVEMENT FOR BALD EAGLES
THERE.
>> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU, TOM,
CONGRATULATIONS TO TOM, DEBRA
SMITH FOR COMPLETING THIS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
>> TOM ANY MORE COMMENTS YOU
WANT TO MAKE?
>> NO, NO THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
GREAT.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ANY MORE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS COUNCIL
BILL?
OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL
OF COUNCIL BILL 119980 IS THERE
A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS
BILL.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE ON
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO
APPROVE 119980.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> YEA.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSON.
>> YES.
>> 5 APPROVED.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO OUR
PRESENTER.
GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.
>> FOLKS WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE
MORE ITEMS HERE.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
TITLE OF ITEM 19 INTO THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 19, INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
OVERVIEW OF SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE FOR BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
SO, COUNCILMEMBERS THIS IS AN
OVERVIEW OF THE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE FOR THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
IT WILL HELP SET THE TABLE AND
CONTEXT FOR THE FINAL ITEM ON
THE AGENDA.
THE CURRENT FORM OF THE SEATTLE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE AMENDED
THE ORIGINAL 2017 ORDINANCE
123576 THAT WAS SPONSORED BY
OUR OWN COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ.
IT IS CODE CHAPTER 14.18.
DESIGNED TO PROVIDE GREATER
TRANSPARENCY TO THE CITY
COUNCIL WHEN THEY ACQUIRE
TECHNOLOGY THAT MEETS THE
DEFINITION OF SURVEILLANCE.
LEADERS FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT ARE HERE TO PROVIDE
AN OVERVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE.
THIS IS A COMPLEX SECTION OF
THE CODE ON SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY.
WE JUST WANTED TO SET THE TABLE
-- HAVE A REFRESHER ON THIS FOR
THE PUBLIC, SET THE TABLE
BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ITEM COMING,
AN AUDIT OF A SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY THAT SDOT USES AND
OUR AUDITOR IS HERE.
THIS WILL JUST SHOW THE FULL
SCOPE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND
WHERE THE NEXT ITEM FALLS INTO
THAT, THAT SCOPE.
LET'S WELCOME OUR PRESENTERS
HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE -- FROM OUR CITY
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF, WE HAVE
LISA KAY AND WE HAVE SAAD
BASHIR MIGHT BE JOINING US AND
SKWREUPBGER ARMBRUSTER.
LISA DID YOU WANT TO START US
OFF?
>> NO, I WAS JUST LETTING YOU
KNOW THAT I AM HERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> OKAY.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
>> SO, GINGER, PLEASE, GET US
STARTED HERE.
THANK YOU.
>> HAPPY TO, THANK YOU FOR THE
TIME.
I AM GINGER ARMBRUSTER.
I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THIS CROWD
IS OMAR WHO SAY MEMBER OF MY
TEAM WHO WORKS ON THESE
PROJECTS AS WELL.
I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
LET ME KNOW WHEN IT IS VISIBLE
TO YOU.
HOPEFULLY YOU ARE SEEING
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> YES.
>> OKAY.
GOOD.
I LOVE IT WHEN TECHNOLOGY DOES
WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO.
I AM GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH
A HIGH-LEVEL VIEW OF THIS SO WE
ARE SETTING THE TABLE FOR THE
CONVERSATION WITH THE AUDITOR
NEXT.
SO, HERE I WILL GET STARTED.
WE WOULD START OFF WITH A
HISTORY.
HOW DID WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE
AND WHERE WE HAVE BEEN.
THERE WAS A LAW PREVIOUS TO
THIS ONE THAT SPOKE ABOUT
TECHNOLOGIES, DRONES BEING ONE
OF THEM.
WHAT IT WAS TRYING TO GET TO
IS HAVING BREAKS OVER
TECHNOLOGY USED FOR
SURVEILLANCE.
WHILE THE LAW WAS IN PLACE MORE
TECHNOLOGY BECAME ON THE
FOREFRONT.
ONE OF THEM IT IS MEDIA
ANALYSIS.
IT BECAME CLEAR.
WE NEED TO EXPAND.
THAT IS WHAT GONZALEZ WAS
LEADING.
EXPAND WITH IT.
IN 2017, THE SURVEILLANCE TOOK
EFFECT.
LOOKED TO REVISE THE LAW FOR
THE USE OF TECHNOLOGIES.
NOT JUST CALL THEM OUT.
THAT IS LIKE PLAYING WHAC-A-
MOLE ON THAT.
LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON CIVIL
LIBERTIES.
THAT YEAR WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH
A SELF-AUDIT PROCESS.
REPORTING OUT ON BEHALF OF THE
EXECUTIVE.
IDENTIFYING 29 TECHNOLOGIES
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND FOUR
DEPARTMENTS.
DOWN TO 26.
THREE OF THEM ENDED UP NOT
BEING USED AND OR WERE REALLY
OWNED BY KING COUNTY.
WE HAD NO OVERSIGHT IN OUT THEY
WERE BEING USED.
ON THE MASTER LIST.
THE ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED TO
ADD AN EXTERNALIA ADVISORY
GROUP.
COMPRISED OF NOMINEES FROM
COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
TO PROVIDE A CITIZEN'S LOOK
FROM AN IMPACTED GROUP AND
INDIVIDUALS PERSPECTIVE ON
SURVEILLANCE.
SO, THE TECHNOLOGIES COMMENTING
ON THOSE AND LOOKING AT THE
POLICIES THAT OVERSEE THEM AND
ALSO ADVISING ON PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT, PART OF THE
REQUIREMENT HERE.
>> IN 2019, THAT WAS AMEND
INSIDE 2019.
TWO APPROVED.
ONE DISCUSSED LATER TODAY AFTER
ME.
THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF EXTENSE
-- EXTENSIONS.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN
2020 WHEN COVID-19 HIT.
HAD AN EXTENSION UNTIL
SEPTEMBER.
WE HAD BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION
WE NEEDED TO EXTEND IT TO MARCH
OF THIS YEAR.
THAT IS A HIGH-LEVEL OF THE
ORDINANCE.
I GOT IT ON ONE SLIDE.
I WAS FEELING PROUD OF MYSELF.
WE WANTED TO REPRESENT PART OF
OUR SEATTLE CODE A LOT LONGER
THAN THIS OBVIOUSLY.
THE DEFINITION IS TO ABSERVE
AND ANALYZE INDIVIDUALS IN A
MANNER THAT IS LIKELY TO RAISE
CONCERNS OF CIVIL LIBERTIES,
FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR
ASSOCIATION AND SOCIAL JUSTICE.
IT EXPANDS THE IDENTIFIABLE
INDIVIDUALS TO LICENSE PLATE
AND OTHER RECORDS TO IDENTIFY
PEOPLE.
WORKING WITH THAT IS THE
DEFINITION, A SET OF
EXCLUSIONS, OPT OUT IS
AVAILABLE IT IS NOT
SURVEILLANCE.
POLICE CAMERAS ARE RUN UNDER
DIFFERENT POLICIES.
CAMERAS FOR TRAFFIC LAW, RED-
LIGHT CAMERAS, THOSE THINGS ARE
EXCLUDED.
SECURITY CAMERAS ON BUILDINGS
OR INSIDE BUILDINGS THERE FOR
SECURITY PURPOSES CLEARLY
SIGNED.
ANYTHING WE HAVE ON DAMS OR
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACT
AS A SECURITY CAMERA.
ANY TECHNOLOGY THAT MONITORS
CITY EMPLOYEES.
ANYONE WITH A TILL WITH A
CAMERA THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
IS NOT INCLUDED.
IT SPEAKS TO THE CIVIL
LIBERTIES.
I WILL NOT READ ALL OF THESE.
IT IS IMPACT ON DISADVANTAGED
GROUPS.
DATA THAT IS COLLECTED IN ITS
INTACT FORM.
AND CIVIL LIBERTY IMPACTS.
THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
THOSE ARE THE TECHNOLOGY WE
IDENTIFY THAT LANDED ON THE
MASTER LIST.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> A QUICK QUESTION, THE
CAMERAS -- CAN YOU -- WHAT DO
YOU MEAN BY SECURITY CAMERAS?
PRIVATE SECURITY CAMERAS?
WE HAVE THEM IN CITY HALL,
ACTING AS SECURITY WHEN
INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT THERE TO
WATCH THE PROPERTY OR THEY MAY
BE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY BUT
AIMED IN TO WATCH WHO IS GOING
IN AND OUT.
THEY ARE SIGNED, SECURITY
CAMERA ON PREMISE.
IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION
CAMERAS THAT ARE IN PLACES
WHERE THERE IS NOBODY AT ALL.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT DAMS AND
BRIDGES AND THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
>> I WILL MOVE ALONG IF THERE
ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS LET ME
KNOW.
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS ARE
COMPRISED OF 6 BUT I WILL CALL
IT 7 BECAUSE WE HAVE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT THAT I AM CALLING
OUT SEPARATELY.
THERE IS WHAT A SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT LOOKS LIKE.
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT.
ANYTHING THAT IS NEWLY PROPOSED
TO BE ACQUIRED IN ADVANCE OF
ACQUIRING THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS
TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SOME ARE ASKING 50 QUESTIONS
ABOUT DATA USE AND SHRAEURING
AND MANAGEMENT AND SECURITY.
FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS A
BUSINESS CASE.
RACIAL EQUITY TOOL KIT TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF OUR INITIATIVE TO
LOOK AT RACIAL IMPACTS AND
DISPARITY IMPACTS, A PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PORTION.
FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION WHERE THE PUBLIC
IS CONCERNED.
PRIVACY AND CIVIL LIBERTIES IS
THE PIECE THAT COMES FROM THE
SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP.
THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS AND
CONCERNS THEY MAY RAISE AS A
GROUP ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGIES,
POLICIES AND HOW IT WORKS.
THEN THE CTO HAS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE.
IF THERE ARE CHANGES PROPOSED
WITH POLICY OR WE FEEL THEY ARE
CONCERNED BY OTHER PARTS OF THE
IMPACT REPORT.
AND DOCUMENTATION THOSE ARE
THINGS LIKE HERE IS THE POLICY
THAT GOVERNS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT
IN SECTION 4.3 AND THE DETAILED
POLICIES.
ALL OF THAT BUNDLED TOGETHER.
THE DEPARTMENTS ARE THE SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERTS.
OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY.
WE PROJECT MANAGE THIS.
I WORK WITH THE FOLKS FROM THE
DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY
ARE READABLE ENGLISH, ANSWER
THE QUESTIONS APPROPRIATELY AND
PACK IT UP AND READY TO PRESENT
AND WE LEAD THE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?
>> YES.
>> AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN 1 AND 5. PRIVACY IMPACT
STATEMENT AND CIVIL LIBERTIES
IMPACT.
>> THE ASSESSMENT IS WHAT WE DO
WHEN WE LOOK AT ANYTHING WITH A
HIGH PRIVACY RISK.
WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE
QUESTIONS IN THE LAW.
A COUPLE PAGES THAT THE LAW.
IT OUT LINES EVERYTHING WITH
DATA COLLECTION AND HOW THE
TECHNOLOGY IS OPERATIONALLIZED
HOW IT IS USED, POLICY
DIRECTED.
EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW
ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY USED.
THEY LOOK AT ALL OF THAT
INFORMATION AND SEE FIST --
SEES IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS.
POLICY THAT THEY FEEL MAY BE
BEEFED UP OR OTHER ISSUES THEY
ARE RAISING ABOUT HOW THE
TECHNOLOGY MAY BE USED.
TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT.
IT ONE IS HERE IT IS AND THE
OTHER IS HERE ARE THE CONCERNS
AND WE WANT TO RAISE YOUR
ATTENTION AND ASK QUESTIONS
ABOUT.
DOES THAT ANSWER THAT FOR YOU?
OKAY.
GOOD.
THESE TAKE TIME AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE.
SO, 8-9 MONTHS DEPENDING ON
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND HOW IT
GOES AND REVIEWS AND CONCERNS
AND QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP
ALONG THE WAY.
WE DRAFT IT WITH THE
DEPARTMENTS, THEY ARE THE ONES
THAT I SAY I HAVE FOUR OR FIVE
OR 15 TECHNOLOGIES AND WE DRAFT
THE TECHNOLOGIES TO THE
QUESTIONS.
WE SCHEDULE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD.
RUNNING THOSE FOR 30 DAYS.
AND, AND DEPENDING ON HOW MANY
TECHNOLOGIES RUNNING PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT SO PEOPLE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO BE INTRODUCED TO
THE TECHNOLOGY.
WHEN WE WERE IN PERSON WE DID
IT IN THE COMMUNITY.
NOW WE ARE DOING THESE ON-LINE.
THAT IS WHAT THOSE ARE.
WE TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
THE FULL FORM THAT IS REQUIRED
TO BE TURNED IN BY LAW BUT WE
RAISE UP QUESTIONS AND THEMES
WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE
OF.
WE TURN IT OVER FOR 6-8 WEEKS,
IF THEY WANT A COUPLE OTHER
WEEKS FOR THE WORKING GROUP TO
COME UP WITH THE IMPACT
ASSESSMENT.
THEN, THEY TAKE A COUPLE WEEKS
TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF
THERE IS RESPONSE BACK, IDEAS,
CONCERNS TO RAISE BACK ABOUT
ANYTHING BROUGHT UP IN THE
WORKING GROUP.
THAT HELPS THIS BODY OF COUNCIL
THAT WILL SEE ISSUES THAT ARE
RAISED THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT
AND WHAT ARE THE RESPONSES BACK
FROM THE TECHNOLOGY.
THEN WE CREATE WHAT USED TO BE
A CONDENSER NOW AN OVERVIEW TO
GIVE YOU A SHORTER VIEW.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, MAYBE YOU
CAN SEE THESE, THEY ARE THICK
WHEN WE GET POLICY INVOLVED.
SO, WE DID A CONDENSED VERSION.
DRILLING DOWN INTO WHAT YOU
FIND INTERESTING OR WHAT MORE
ON.
WE GO THROUGH THE REVIEW
PROCESS, WE HAND IT OVER AND
REQUEST FOR LEGISLATION TO PASS
INTO AND ALLOW THE TECHNOLOGY
TO BE CONTINUED TO BE USED OR
NEW TECHNOLOGY.
BUT NEW TECHNOLOGY TO ALLOW IT
TO BE ACQUIRED AND USED.
AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT?
>> AND THAT IS NOT ALL THAT IS
REQUIRED.
THAT IS WHAT LEADS US INTO THE
NEXT PART OF THE CONVERSATION,
DAVID JONES AND HIS TEAM WILL
TALK ABOUT THE AUDIT CONDUCTED
ON ONE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES FOR
SDOT.
ALL OF THE THEM.
WE WILL PUT A MARKER, THAT IS
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT
NOW.
ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGIES MUST BE
APPROVED.
CTO REPORTS, I AM THE PRIVACY
OFFICE, I DO MORE THAN
SURVEILLANCE, I SPEND TIME
LOOKING AT ALL OF THE
TECHNOLOGY AND DO A PRIVACY
REVIEW AND QUESTIONS ON
SURVEILLANCE.
THE QUARTERLY REPORT, HERE ARE
ALL OF THE THINGS ACQUIRED AND
WHY IT WAS NOT SURVEILLANCE OR
WHY?
ALL OF THAT IS IN A REPORT TO
COUNCIL AND THE WORKING GROUP.
THEN IS AN EQUITY REPORT.
ARE WE MEETING THE GOALS OF THE
LAW?
AND THE FINAL BIT.
THE ANNUAL AUDIT REPORT OF
TECHNOLOGIES OF WHICH THERE ARE
2. CCTV AND LICENSE PLATE
READER TECHNOLOGY.
THAT IS THE PIECE THAT HAS BEEN
CONDUCTED ON ONE OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES, THE LICENSE PLATE
READER THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT
TKPEGZS COMING FROM THE
AUDITOR.
THAT IS WHAT I PREPARED FOR YOU
TODAY.
>> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT OVERVIEW OF
THE SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE.
AND WHAT IS IN THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE AND SETTING THE
TABLE FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON THE
AGENDA.
COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS
FOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
EXPERTS?
>> YES, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
CONTINUING TO MOVE TOWARDS THE
DEADLINE UNDER YOUR CURRENT
EXTENSION.
DESPITE THE RECOGNITION THAT WE
MIGHT NOT GET THERE I
APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO STICK
TO THAT PHRAFRP 2021 DEADLINE.
AND MAYBE WE WILL GET THERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> MAYBE WE WILL GET THERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON
THAT.
THIS CONTINUES TO BE SOMETHING
THAT WE WORK VERY VIGOROUSLY ON
AND IT IS PRIMARY
RESPONSIBILITY.
HE IS OUR HERO HERE KEEPING
THIS FLAG MOVING FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE
HERE?
>> NO PRESSURE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> WE ARE GLAD HE IS SO
EXCELLENT AND KEEPS US MOVING.
>> THANK YOU, BOTH.
REALLY APPRECIATE THIS OVERVIEW
AND I THINK IT IS USEFUL FOR
THE PUBLIC AND FOR US TO
REFERENCE IT LATER AND TO BE
ABLE TO CALL BOTH OF YOU WITH
QUESTIONS AS WE GET THESE
REPORTS AND TRY TO DIG INTO
THEM AND PROTECT.
PROTECT PEOPLE'S PRAOEUFACEY
AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPORTANT
TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS.
SO, THANK YOU.
>> CERTAINLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS WE ARE ON OUR
LAST ITEM.
SO WILL THE CLERK READ THE
TITLE OF ITEM 20 INTO THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 20, CITY
AUDITOR'S OFFICE, PRESENTATION
OF LICENSE PLATE READERS AUDIT
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
AND WE ARE GOING TO INTRODUCE
DAVID G. JONES AND MEGUMI
SUMITANI.
JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW PROVIDING
CONTEXT.
I HAVE THE AUDITOR IS HERE AND
SDOT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE
FOR US AS WELL.
AS WE KNOW THE CITY AUDITOR
CONDUCTS IN-DEPTH ANALYSISES
AND DEVELOPS RECOMMENDATION TO
IMPROVE THE CITY PROGRAMS AND
SERVICES.
APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE --
ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPS
RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THE
CITY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
APPRECIATE THEM FOR BEING HERE.
IT CAUSES US TO LOOK BACK AT
THE TECHNOLOGY.
THESE AUDITS HAVE
RECOMMENDATIONS AND AS I
UNDERSTAND SEATTLE DEPARTMENT
OF TRANSPORTATION IS IN
AGREEMENT WITH AUDITOR'S
RECOMMENDATIONS AND THERE IS
SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,
CONTACTS THAT THE AUDITOR WILL
PROVIDE ABOUT THAT.
AGAIN, THIS AUDIT WAS REQUIRED
BY THE ORIGINAL 2017 ORDINANCE.
ORDINANCE 123576 THAT REQUIRES
A CITY AUDITOR TO LOOK AT CITY
COUNCIL APPROVED NONPOLICE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES.
IT IS ALSO REQUIRED BY ANOTHER
ORDINANCE THAT APPROVED THE USE
OF SDOT'S LICENSE PLATE READERS
TECHNOLOGY.
SDOT LICENSE PLATE READERS, LPR
TECHNOLOGY IS USED FOR
CAPTURING LICENSE PLATE
INFORMATION TO CALCULATE THE
AVERAGE TIME ONSET SET STREETS.
LPR CAMERAS ARE HIGH-DEFINITION
CAMERAS DESIGNED TO CAPTURE
IMAGES OF LICENSE PLATES.
IT IS PROCESSED BY SOFTWARE
THAT REPORTS THE NUMBER TO THE
WASHINGTON STATE.
TRAVEL TIME BETWEEN THE TWO
LOCATIONS AND SENDS IT BACK TO
SDOT.
SO THEY CAN POST THE TRAVEL
TIME TO THE PUBLIC ON ITS
VARIOUS THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS
ON READ SIDE SIGNS, TRAVEL
INFORMATION WEB MAP FOR THE
PUBLIC TO USE AND MAKING
INFORMED TRIP DECISIONS.
WITH THE HOPE OF REDUCING
TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND LIMITED
PARTNERING PEOPLE GET TO WORK,
SCHOOL, OTHER DESTINATIONS ON
TIME.
SO WE WILL TURN THIS OVER TO
THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR PEDERSON
FOR INVITING US HERE TO TALK
ABOUT OUR REPORT ON THE SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION LICENSE PLATE
READER TECHNOLOGY.
WE WILL REFER TO IT SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS
SDOT.
FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO
ARE WATCHING THIS PRESENTATION
OUR REPORT IS AVAILABLE ON THE
OFFICE OF CITY AUDITOR WEB
SITE, WW
W.SEATTLE.GOV/CITYAUDITTOR AND
OUR REPORT ON LICENSE PLATE
READER CAMERAS WHICH I WILL
REFER TO AND MEGUMI SUMITANI
WILL REFER TO IT AS LPRs.
THIS REPORT THAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT TODAY IT IS THE FIRST IN
A SERIES OF REPORTS THAT THE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
ORDINANCE REQUIRES OUR OFFICE
AND INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY TO HAVE THE USE
ON SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES
OUR OFFICE IS CHARGED WITH
HANDLING THE NONPOLICE
SURVEILLANCE?
THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL
WILL HANDLE THE SURVEILLANCE.
BEFORE I THAPBD OVER TO MEGUMI
I WOULD -- HAND IT OVER TO
MEGUMI I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
THREE REPORTS, BEFORE WE HAND
OVER OUR REPORT, WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.
WE SHARE IT WITH WHOEVER WE ARE
AUDITING.
AFTER WE HAVE DONE THIS AND
SHARED THE DRAFT SDOT DECIDED
TO SPEEDUP THE REPLACEMENT OF
THEIR LICENSE PLATE READER
CAMERAS WITH ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY
SO ALL OF THE CAMERAS WILL BE
REPLACED BY THE END OF 2021.
NOW, SDOT AS CHAIR PEDERSON
SAID, AGREED WITH ALL OF OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS AND LOGIC
BEHIND THEM.
BECAUSE THEY ARE DECIDING TO
MOVE AWAY FROM THE LPR
TECHNOLOGY BY THE END OF THIS
YEAR IT MEANS IT MAY NOT MAKE
SENSE AND IT MAY NOT FULLY
IMPLEMENT ALL OF OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE THE
TECHNOLOGY IS GOING AWAY.
HOWEVER, REST ASSURED WE WILL
BE FOLLOWING UP ON THEIR
IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE WILL
REPORT BACK TO YOU, THE CITY
COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, ABOUT
THIS.
SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS
OUR OFFICE IS CURRENTLY
SCHEDULED TO REVIEW THE
REPLACEMENT TECHNOLOGY.
THE CURRENT PLAN CALLS FOR US
TO REVIEW THIS TECHNOLOGY AFTER
THE CITY COUNCIL IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE PROCESS TO FIND IN THE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
ORDINANCE REVIEWS IT.
MY THIRD AND FINAL POINT.
I JUST WANT TO MENTION WHEN WE
STARTED THIS AUDIT WE HAD
FUNDING TO CONTRACT WHEN
EXPERIENCE TECHNOLOGY SECURITY
FIRM TO HELP US WITH SOME OF
THE MORE TECHNOLOGY ASPECTS OF
THE TECHNOLOGY.
HOWEVER, DUE TO THE BUDGET
CRISIS CAUSED BY THE COVID-19
PANDEMIC WE HAD TO CLOSE THIS
CONTRACT BEFORE THE CONTRACT
HAD OR THE CONSULTANT COULD
COMPLETE THEIR WORK.
BECAUSE OF IT YOU KNOW THERE IS
A RECOMMENDATION IN THE REPORT
THAT CALLS FOR ENTITY WITH IT
SECURITY EXPERTISE TO EVALUATE
THE TECHNOLOGY RISKS, THE RISK
THAT THE DATA COULD BE LOST OR
ACCESSED.
SO, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION
CALLING FOR THAT.
GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE HEARD SO
FAR, SDOT TOLD US THEY ARE
WORKING WITH CITY AND IT
SECURITY STAFF TO EVALUATE AND
ADDRESS THESE RISKS.
NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS
TURN IT OVER TO MEGUMI
SUMITANI WHO WILL TAKE US
THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE
REPORT.
MEGUMI?
>> THANK YOU, DAVID.
THIS IS THE SECOND SLIDE.
IS THAT WHAT IS SHOWING RIGHT
NOW?
>> YES.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU
HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR FIRST USAGE
REVIEW OF SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION LICENSE PLATE
READERS TECHNOLOGY AS REQUIRED
BY THE 2017 SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY ORDINANCE.
THE SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE
SPECIFIES THAT AT A MINIMUM
THAT THE ANNUAL USAGE REPORTS,
REPORT ON THESE 6 AREAS.
AND, I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF
TEXT ON THE SLIDE BUT WE WANTED
TO PUT THE ACTUAL TEXT FROM THE
ORDINANCE HERE SO THE PUBLIC
CAN SEE IT.
BUT, VERY BRIEFLY STATED WHAT
WE WERE ASKED TO REPORT ON ARE
A, THE TECHNOLOGIES USE,
FREQUENCY AND PATTERNS.
B, SHARING EFFORT TECHNOLOGY OR
ITS DATA, C, DATA MANAGEMENT
PROTOCOLS, D, IMPACT ON CIVIL
LIBERTIES, E, COMPLAINTS, AND
F, COST OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
AND OUR REPORT IS SET UP SO IT
RESPONDS TO THESE QUESTIONS IN
THIS SEQUENCE.
WE WILL MAKE OUR PRESENTATION
FOLLOWING THAT SEQUENCE.
I AM SORRY I WENT ON TO THE
OTHER SLIDE TOO QUICKLY.
SO, ON THIS SLIDE BEFORE WE GET
INTO EACH OF THE ORDINANCE
QUESTIONS I WANTED TO PROVIDE
YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE
TECHNOLOGY AND THEN THE FOUR
KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THE AUDIT.
FIRST, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE
TECHNOLOGY.
THIS IS A VERY BASIC DIAGRAM
SHOWING THE DATA FLOWING FROM
SDOT THROUGH THE WASHINGTON
STATE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION AND I WILL REFER
TO IT AS W SDOT.
THERE IS A DETAIL OF THE FLOW
IN THE REPORT.
SO, BASICALLY THE TECHNOLOGY IS
USED TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE
TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH ONE POINT
AND MEASURING HOW LONG IT TAKES
TO GET TO ANOTHER POINT AND
THERE IS WSDOT SOFTWARE THAT
MATCHING THE LICENSE PLATE AND
RETURNS THE AVERAGE TRAVEL TIME
BETWEEN LICENSE PLATE READINGS.
VERY BRIEFLY STARTING FROM THE
LOWER LEFT CORNER OF THE SLIDE
THE LPR CAMERAS AND SOFTWARE
ARE USED TO CAPTURE THE IMAGES
OF THE LICENSE PLATES AS THEY
MOVE INTO VIEW.
THESE IMAGES ARE CONVERTED INTO
RAW DATA SUCH AS THE LICENSE
PLATE LETTERS AND NUMBERS, TIME
AND LOCATION WHICH ARE THEN
SENT TO WSDOT TO PRODUCE THE
TRAVEL TIME.
IT IS THE RAW DATA, NOT THE
IMAGES, THAT ARE TRANSMITTED
THROUGH A DEDICATED FIBER OPTIC
NETWORK BETWEEN SDOT AND WSDOT.
>> THEY PROCESS THE TRAVEL TIME
BETWEEN INTERSECTIONS AND
TRANSFERS THE INFORMATION TO
SDOT THAT SHARES THE
INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC
THROUGH ITS DYNAMIC MESSAGE
SIGNS AND WEB SITE.
THEY USE TRAVEL TIME FOR SOME
OF ITS OWN PURPOSES SUCH AS
TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND
PLANNING THE STUDIES, THE
TECHNOLOGY IS USED BY SDOT TO
SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH THE
PUBLIC.
SO, THE PUBLIC CAN MAKE
INFORMED TRIP DECISIONS.
AND AS OF JUNE 2020, THERE WERE
100LPR CAMERAS OPERATING IN THE
CITY.
SDOT HAS BEEN USING THE
TECHNOLOGY AND DOES NOT PLAN TO
GET MORE CAMERAS.
SO, WHILE THEY HAVE BEEN
MAINTAINING AND REPAIRING THE
CAMERAS THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN
PHASING THEM OUT BECAUSE THEY
ARE OUT THERE, QUOTE UNQUOTE,
END OF LIFE.
AND NO LONGER SUPPORTED BY THE
MANUFACTURE.
IF IT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED
THEY REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER.
AS STATED EARLIER BY DAVID SDOT
PLANS TO REPLACE ALL OF THE LPR
WITH THE OTHER UNITS BY THE END
OF THIS YEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR
KEY TAKEAWAYS.
TWO KEY ISSUES, IT IS BECAUSE
SDOT SENDS AND RELIES ON WSDOT
TO PROCESS THE DATA THAT THE
LACK OF A WRITTEN DATA-SHARING
AGREEMENT WITH WSDOT IS THE
FIRST KEY FINDING IN THIS
AUDIT.
WE RECOMMENDED THAT SDOT
DEVELOP AND EXECUTE A WRITTEN
DATA-SHARING AGREEMENT WITH
WSDOT.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY PLAN TO
PHASE THEM OUT BY THE END OF
THIS YEAR THEY INDICATED THEY
MAY NOT IMPLEMENT THIS
RECOMMENDATION.
THE SECOND THERE COULD BE
CYBERSECURITY VULNERABILITY IN
THE LICENSE PLATE READING
ITSELF.
IT IS IMPROPERLY SHARE THAT CAN
LIBERTIES. NTIAL CIVIL -
BECAUSE OF THIS RISK AND WE ARE
NOT IT EXPERTS WE RECOMMENDED
SDOT GET CYBERSECURITY EXPERTS
IN THE CITY'S INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT OR
CONSULTANTS TO CONDUCT IT.
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES IN TWO
AREAS.
FIRST, THE NEED FOR POLICIES TO
BE UPDATED OR REVISED TO
REFLECT ACTUAL PRACTICES BY
SDOT AND WSDOT AND SECONDLY,
THERE IS A NEED TO RESOLVE
BETWEEN THE POLICY DOCUMENTS,
THE SEURBGS
SIR AND THE CSIR.
IT PROVIDES INFORMATION ABOUT
THE TECHNOLOGY AND PURPOSE AND
USE AND POLICIES AND THE CSIR
CALLED THE CONDENSED
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT IS A
CONDENSED VERSION OF THE SIR
THAT CALLS OUT THE POLICIES
FROM IT.
AS GINGER MENTIONED EARLIER THE
CSIR IS RENAMED AS THE
EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW REPORT.
WE MAKE NINE RECOMMENDATIONS TO
ADDRESS OUR FINDINGS.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU
THROUGH THE KEY TAKEAWAYS
THROUGH EACH OF THE SIX
QUESTIONS.
STARTING WITH QUESTION A ON THE
TECHNOLOGIES USE.
WE HAVE THREE KEY TAKEAWAYS.
THE TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH SDOTS PERMITTED
PURPOSES, TWO, THE DEPARTMENT
IS NOT USING THE TECHNOLOGY FOR
ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES AND WE
WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE
THAT RECENTLY INSTALLED CAMERAS
ON THE WEST SEATTLE LOW BRIDGE
ARE NOT SDOT'S LPR CAMERAS.
THEY ARE SPD.
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS LIKE A RED-
LIGHT CAMERA AND THEY ARE OUT
OF SCOPE FOR THIS REVIEW.
AND THIRDLY, THE LPR CAMERAS
NEAR USE 24 HOURS A DAY, EVERY
DAY, TRANSFERRING DATA TO
WSDOT.
QUESTION B IS ABOUT HOW OFTEN
THE TECHNOLOGY OR ITS DATA ARE
SHARED WITH OTHER ENTITIES, IN
PARTICULAR OTHER GOVERNMENTS.
>> THREE KEY TAKEAWAYS, SDOT IS
SHARING WITH WSDOT
CONTINUOUSLY.
AS REQUIRED THERE IS NO WRITTEN
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM.
TWO, OPERATIONAL POLICIES STATE
THAT WDOT DELETES DATA WHEN
TRAVEL TIMES ARE CALCULATED AND
THAT WSDOT DOES NOT HOLD THE
DATA.
OPERATIONAL POLICIES ALSO STATE
THAT RAW DATA SHALL NOT BE
STORED OR USED BY SDOT OR ANY
OTHER ENTITY FOR ANY PURPOSE
OTHER THAN TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT
AND ONLY SDOT AND WSDOT CAN
ACCESS THE DATA.
HOWEVER, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO
VERIFY OR FULLY ASSESS THIS DUE
TO THE LACK OF TECHNICAL
EXPERTISE.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD BE
SHARED.
AND ENGAGE CYBEREXPERTS TO
ADDRESS ISSUES.
WE BELIEVE IT WILL REDUCE THE
CHANCE THAT THESE RISKS WILL
OCCUR.
>> MEGUMI.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR
WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE, WE DID NOT
LEARN ANYTHING DURING OUR AUDIT
THIS, INDEED, HAS HAPPENED.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY IS TO
REALLY GET EVEN GREATER PROOF
OR EVIDENCE, BETTER EVIDENCE,
YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO ENGAGE
PEOPLE WHO ARE IT SECURITY
EXPERTS TO DO THAT TO MAKE A
STATEMENT.
WE DID NOT UNCOVER ANY EVIDENCE
THAT LEAKAGE HAS HAPPENED.
GO AHEAD MEGUMI.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
>>> SO THE NEXT QUESTION,
QUESTION C IS ABOUT DATA
MANAGEMENT PROTOCOLS.
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS, ONE, THE
SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED 10 YEARS
AGO.
DUE TO LACK OF RECORDS WE COULD
NOT DETERMINE IF QUALIFIED
PERSONNEL INSTALLED THE SYSTEM.
TWO, ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM IS
PROPERLY LIMITED TO CERTAIN
PERSONNEL FOR CONFIGURATION AND
TROUBLE SHOOTING PURPOSES.
THREE, THAT ACCESS TO THE
SYSTEM IS PROTECTED ACCORDING
TO THE POLICY WITH THE USER
NAME AND PASS WORK.
OR WHAT IT MEANS FOR STANDARD
TRAINING FOR THOSE THAT USE THE
SYSTEM AND WHO IS REQUIRED TO
TAKE THAT STRANDARD TRAINING.
AND FIVE, THAT NO IMAGES OF
VEHICLES AND OCCUPANTS ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE COLLECTED BY
SDOT.
WE SAW THAT, THE CAMERAS ARE
APPROPRIATELY DIRECTED TO
CAPTURE LICENSE PLATES,
HOWEVER, WE SAW IN THE PROCESS
OF CAPTURING THOSE LICENSE
PLATE IMAGES, THE CAMERAS
CAPTURED A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF
THE BODY OF THE VEHICLES TO BE
ABLE TO SURMISE THE VEHICLE'S
COLOR, MAKE AND MODEL.
AND TO THIS POINT WE MADE A
RECOMMENDATION WHAT IS MEANT BY
IMAGES OF VEHICLES AND TO
DEFINE THE LIMITS OF WHAT CAN
BE CAPTURED IN THE IMAGES.
ALTHOUGH THE IMAGES ARE NOT
TRANSMITTED TO WSDOT THEY ARE
HELD TEMPORARILY IN THE CAMERAS
BEFORE THEY ARE DELETED.
IT POSES A RISK OF THEIR BEING
IMPROPERLY SHARED RISK.
AND HERE ARE SOME SAMPLE IMAGES
FROM AN SDOT LPR CAMERA.
THE LICENSE PLATES WERE
OBSCURED BY US.
SO, AGAIN, THESE IMAGES ARE NOT
TRANSMITTED TO WSDOT.
ONLY RAW DATA SUCH AS THE
NUMBER, TIME, LOCATION DATA ARE
TRANSMITTED.
ORDINANCE QUESTION D., HOW IT
COULD HAVE AN EFFECT ON
DISPROPORTIONATE
REPRESENTATIONS.
>> IF IT COULD IMPACT CIVIL
LIBERTIES AS STATED EARLIER
THERE IS A RISK THAT THE SYSTEM
COULD RESULT IN DATA BEING
SHARED WITH UNAUTHORIZED
PARTIES AND AS A RESULT EFFECT
CIVIL LIBERTIES AND AS
MENTIONED EARLIER WE
RECOMMENDED THAT IT SECURITY
EXPERTS BE ENGAGED TO ASSESS
THE CYBERSECURITY
VULNERABILITIES OF THE SYSTEM.
AND IN TERMS OF THE LOCATIONS
OF WHERE THE CAMERAS WERE
DEPLOYED AND IF DEPLOYMENT IN
THOSE LOCATIONS COULD IMPACT
CIVIL LIBERTIES, POLICIES STATE
THAT THE LOCATIONS SHOULD BE
BASED ON STREET TRANSPORTATION
VOLUMES
VOLUMES AND GAPS AND TRAVEL
TIME COVERAGE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A RECORD
SHOWING WHY THE CAMERAS WERE
PLACED WHERE THEY WERE WE WERE
NOT ABLE TO DETERMINE IF THE
LOCATIONS THEY CHOSE WERE
ACCORDING TO POLICY.
STILL, WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE
COULD LEARN ABOUT HOW THE
CAMERAS ARE PLACED THROUGHOUT
THE CITY.
SO, WE WORKED WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY AND THE CITY
DEMOGRAPHER TO MAP IT TO SEE IF
COMING JUMPED OUT AT US.
WE COULD, WE SHOULD POINT OUT
THAT WE MAPPED ONLY THE LPR
CAMERAS.
IT IS JUST ONE PEACE OF THE
LARGER NETWORK OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY INCLUDING SDOT USES.
IN TERMS OF MAPPING OF THE LPR
CAMERAS TWO OBSERVATIONS ARE
THAT ONE, OVER 40% OF THE
CAMERAS ARE LOCATED IN TWO
CENSUS TRACKS, TRACK 93, IN
PARTS OF PIONEER SQUARE AND
TRACK 109 THAT IS GEORGETOWN.
BOTH OF WHICH ARE IN INDUSTRIAL
AREAS WHERE THE POPULATION
DENSITY IS LOW.
THAT, TOO, THEY HAVE A HIGHER
-- YOU KNOW, IT IS LOW IN THE
TRACKS THEY HAVE HIGHER
DISPROPORTIONATE RESIDENTS
ACCORDING TO OTHER.
ORDINANCE QUESTION E. IS ABOUT
CONCERNS AND ASSESSMENTS AND WE
DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY PRIVACY OR
CIVIL LIBERTIES RELATED,
COMPLAINTS, CONCERNS ABOUT THE
LPR SYSTEM RECEIVED BY THE
DEPARTMENT BY SDOT OR THE
CITY'S CUSTOMER SERVICE BUREAU
BETWEEN
2017 AND JUNE OF 2020.
OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS THERE
WAS ONE SECURITY ASSESSMENT
RELATED TO THE LPR SYSTEM DONE
IN 2015 BY A CONSULTANT.
AS FOR THE COSTS AND THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS THE LAST
QUESTION WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK
AT.
AS YOU CAN SEE IT WAS A SMALL
AMOUNT OF MONEY INVOLVED FOR
THIS TECHNOLOGY IN 2019.
AND FOR THE FIRST HALF OF 2020.
SDOT CONCURRED WITH OUR
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
SINCE SDOT HAS DECIDED TO
TERMINATE USE OF THE LPR
TECHNOLOGY BY THE END OF THIS
YEAR, THIS MEANS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT WILL NEED TO
DETERMINE THE EXTENT OF
RESOURCES THAT SHOULD BE
DEVOTED TO THEIR IMPLEMENTATION
OR IF TO IMPLEMENT THEM AT ALL.
HOWEVER, UNTIL THE TECHNOLOGY
IS COMPLETELY PHASED OUT IT IS
STILL IMPORTANT THAT SDOT AND
ITD ENSURE THAT THE DATA AND
SYSTEM ARE APPROPRIATELY
PROTECTED.
AS PART OF OUR FOLLOW UP WORK
WE LOOK AT THE STAS US FOR EACH
OF THE NINE RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM THIS AUDIT.
>> IN CLOSING WE WOULD LIKE TO
THANK THE DEPARTMENT OF SEATTLE
FOR THEIR WORK WITH US ON THIS
AUDIT.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS LET US KNOW
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MEGUMI.
>> THANK YOU, AUDITOR JONES.
COUNCILMEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS
ABOUT THERE REPORT TODAY?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> AND WE DO HAVE SDOT HERE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
SO, I APPRECIATE THAT.
PLEASE COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT
THE IMPLICATIONS OF PHASING OUT
FROM THE LPR TECHNOLOGY.
DOES IT MEAN THAT THEY ARE
PHASING OUT FROM THE USE OF
THIS TECHNOLOGY OR THIS
FUNCTION ALL TOGETHER?
AND THEY ARE JUST GOING TO
SHIFT TO A DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY
TO CONTINUE THIS FUNCTION?
>> I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS YES,
THEY ARE JUST SWITCHING.
THEY ARE GOING TO STOP USING
LPR CAMERAS BUT REPLACE THEM.
SO, THE SAME FUNCTION, IF YOU
WILL, CREATE TRAVEL TIMES AND
POSTING THEM AND GOING PUBLIC
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I DEFER IF YOU WANT TO ADD
MORE.
>> THANK YOU.
>>
>> THANK YOU, YES.
>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
THANK YOU.
I AM ADIAM EMERY THAT MANAGES
THE TECHNOLOGY.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE ITEMS
NOTE INSIDE THIS AUDIT ARE
PRIMARILY RELATED TO AGREEMENT
AND NOT RISK PRIVACY DATA.
LPR IS 10 YEARS OLD AND IT HAS
BEEN THE LIFE CYCLE FOR THIS IS
SEVEN YEARS.
WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF
PHASING IT OUT.
WE INTRODUCED A NEW TECHNOLOGY
FIVE YEARS AGO AND
TRANSITIONING TO THIS NEW
TECHNOLOGY AS THE EQUIPMENTS
FAIL.
BUT, DUE TO THE RECOMMENDATION
THROUGH THE AUDIT OFFICE AND --
IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THE
AGREEMENTS WITH WSDOT IT WOULD
OF REQUIRED US A LOT OF
INVESTMENT TO CREATE A TRAINING
PROCESS, PROGRAM FOR WSDOT
EMPLOYEES.
DEVELOPING THE TRAINING FOR
WSDOT TO SPEEDUP THE
REPLACEMENT OF THIS EQUIPMENT
WHICH WAS PLANNED.
WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE OUR TIME
AS THE EQUIPMENT FAIL AND
REPLACING IT IN THE NEW
TECHNOLOGY.
WE DECIDED TO EXPEDITE THAT AND
MAKE IT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
>> I THOUGHT I HEARD RELATING
TO THE MAPPING EXERCISE UNABLE
TO PROVIDE INFORMATION HOW
THOSE LOCATIONS WERE SELECTED.
AND, SO, THE QUESTION THAT I
HAVE IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO
REPLACE THE LPR TECHNOLOGY ARE
YOU GOING TO DO SO IN THE SAME
LOCATION OR A DIFFERENT PROCESS
OF IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS FOR
THE USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY AND
GATHERING THIS INFORMATION?
[EVERYONE TALKING AT ONCE ]
>> A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND
IN THE TECHNOLOGY 10 YEARS AGO.
THIS IS THE FIRST IN THE NATION
TO ACTUALLY MEASURE TRAVEL TIME
ON THE STREETS?
WE LOOKED AT AURORA, SEATTLE
BRIDGE, AND 15th AVENUE
NORTHWEST.
ALL OF THOSE.
AND THEN MARGINAL AND -- 4th
AVENUE THEY WERE WHERE IT WAS
SELECTED.
THAT WAS THE FIRST LAUNCH.
WE WILL BE REPLACING THEM IN
THOSE PRIMARY PRINCIPAL PLACES
AS IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT RETURN
ON MEASURING TRAVEL TIME ON
THOSE PRIMARY CORRIDORS.
>> AND THE AUDITOR CAN FEEL
FREE TO JUMP IN AT ANY TIME.
MEGUMI GO AHEAD.
>> ACTUALLY, ADIAM RESPONDED
ALREADY BUT I JUST WANTED TO
STATE THAT IT WAS OUR
UNDERSTANDING THAT BY PHASING
OUT THE LPRs RIGHT NOW THAT
THEY ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED
IN THEIR EXISTING LOCATIONS.
AS SHE JUST RESPONDED.
AS FAR AS ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY
THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT IS
SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE IN
TERMS OF MAYBE SOMETHING THAT
WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT, YEAH.
WHAT KINDS OF REASONS THAT THEY
WILL BE PLACING THEM IN NEW
LOCATIONS WILL BE SOMETHING
THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT THAT
TIME, YES.
--
>> I AM, AGAIN, I THINK THROUGH
THE MAPPING EXERCISE.
I WILL DEFER TO COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES ON THIS FOR MORE FOLLOW
UP.
THE REASON I AM ASKING IS -- IT
IS NOTING THAT 40% OF THE
LOCATIONS ARE IN TWO CENSUS
TRACKS.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY ARE
LOCATED IN THOSE CENSUS
TRACKS.
IT MIGHT BE NEEDING TO KNOW
WHY.
IF I COULD JUST -- ASK A COUPLE
OTHER QUESTIONS LESS ABOUT THE
LOCATION.
I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WSDOT
USES --
>> YES.
ADIAM, PLEASE.
>> THEY DON'T.
WHEN WE LAUNCHED THIS 10 YEARS
AGO, IT WASES TO CONTAIN IT.
AT THAT TIME WSDOT USED LPR.
WE WANTED TO CREATE, WITHOUT
CREATING CITY BOUNDARIES AND
HAVING A STREAMLESS, LIKE, YOU
KNOW, TRAVEL TIME BEING
MEASURED IN OUR GREAT CITIES WE
PARTNERED WITH WSDOT TO PARTNER
IT 10 YEARS AGO.
AND THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT USE
IT.
THEY ARE NOT DOING ANY TRAVEL
TIME MEASUREMENT IN THE AREAS
WHERE THEY WERE -- WHERE THEY
HAD THE LPR LAUNCHED AT THAT
TIME.
THEY PRIMARILY FOCUS ON TRAVEL
TIME METHOLOGY ON THE HIGHWAY
AND MAINTAIN THE HIGHWAY TRAVEL
TIME DEPLOYMENT AND
IMPLEMENTATION INSTEAD OF.
>> THEY ARE CONTINUING TO USE
LPR?
>> THEY ARE PHASING IT OUT AND
MOVING OUT OF MEASURING IT AND
JUST FOCUSING ON THE HIGHWAY.
>> I SEE.
OKAY.
I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER
QUESTIONS.
I WILL DEFER TO OTHER FOLKS
HERE.
>> WE CAN GO TO COUNCILMEMBER
MORALE, AND GO BACK TO YOU
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
I HAVE QUESTIONS IN TWO BUCKETS
THE FIRST IS WHY WE ARE DOING
THIS AT ALL.
SO, I UNDERSTAND -- I MEAN I
UNDERSTAND IT WAS TO CALCULATE
TRAVEL TIMES SOUNDS LIKE FROM
THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE ON
ARTIRIALS BUT NOW THEY ARE
GOING TO ONLY HIGHWAYS.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE TWO
TECHNOLOGIES WORK TOGETHER OR
NOT BUT MY REAL QUESTION IS,
IS, IF WE ARE USING THIS
TECHNOLOGY FOR THE PURPOSE OF
CALCULATING TRAVEL TIME TO WHAT
END?
SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT
INFORMATION?
IS IT TO CREATE RECOMMENDATIONS
FOR CHANGING INFRASTRUCTURE?
OR, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE USE THE
INFORMATION?
AND THEN GETTING BACK TO MORE
OF THE BIGGER QUESTIONS MEGUMI
I THINK YOU SAID SPD USES RED
LIGHT CAMERAS, SDOT IS USING
OTHER KINDS OF CAMERAS BUT FOR
ME IT RAISES A BIGGER QUESTION
ABOUT KIND OF BULK
SURVEILLANCE OF OUR NEIGHBORS
AND WHO OWNS THE EQUIPMENT, WHO
OWNS THE DATA THAT IS COLLECTED
AND ARE THERE PROBLEMS WITH,
YOU KNOW F WE ARE USING FEDERAL
MONEY FOR SOME OF THE
EQUIPMENT, THEY ARE USUALLY
PRETTY STRICT HOW IT BE USED
AND I HEARD THAT THERE IS A
FEAR THAT SPD IS COLLECTING THE
DATA.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF
CONCERN ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO
THIS INFORMATION AND WHO USES
IT AND FOR WHAT PURPOSES.
I DID WANT TO MAKE THE
CLARIFICATION THAT THE
TECHNOLOGY IS SEPARATE FROM THE
CAMERAS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR
EXAMPLE ON THE WEST SEATTLE LOW
BRIDGE.
AND, WITH OUR WORK WITH SDOT
AND WITH WSDOT ON THIS
TECHNOLOGY, THE DATA, IT IS
JUST FLOWING THROUGH AND THEN,
BEING -- THE AVERAGE TRAVEL
TIMES ARE BEING POSTED FOR
PUBLIC CONSUMPTION FOR THE MOST
PART.
SOMETHING LIKE 95% OF THE WORK
THAT IS RELATED.
SDOT USES IT FOR PURPOSES LIKE
FOR TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT.
AND IT IS -- IT IS DATA THAT
HAS ALREADY BEEN PROCESSED BY
WSDOT, IN OTHER WORDS IT IS NOT
RAW DATA COLLECTED AND THEN
CRUNCHED BY SDOT BUT IT IS RAW
DATA THAT IS SENT TO WSDOT AND
THEY ARE COMING BACK TO SDOT
AND GIVING SDOT TRAVEL TIME
INFORMATION AND THEY ARE USING
IT FOR A VARIETY OF PURPOSES
PRIMARILY FOR PUBLIC POSTING OF
HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET FROM
ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
WHAT IS CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC
AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT
IS DONE WITH THE DATA, WHO OWNS
IT.
SORT OF ADDING TO THE
CONFUSION, LOTS OF DIFFERENT
TYPES OF CAMERAS USED IN THE
CITY?
IN A COUPLE OF BY NO LATER THAN
THE END OF THE NEXT QUARTER WE
WILL BE COMING BACK TO DO A
REPORT ON CLOSED-CIRCUIT TVs
THAT ARE OPERATED BY SDOT AND
THOSE ARE TRAFFIC CAMERAS THAT
SERVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE THAN
THESE LICENSE PLATE READER
CAMERAS.
SO, I CAN UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY
CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL
OF THE CAMERAS OUT THERE, WSDOT
HAS CAMERAS, THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAS CAMERAS, SDOT
HAS CAMERAS, THAT IS PART OF
THE POINT OF THE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THERE
ARE CONTROLS IN PLACE TO MAKE
SURE THE DATA IS PROTECTED BUT
IT IS A POLICY QUESTION, YOU
KNOW, ABOUT -- THAT YOU ASK TO
WHAT END DO WE DO IT?
AND IS IT WORTH THE RISK?
AND I SHOULD SAY JUST ADDING
ONE THING BUT ADDING CONTEXT.
FOCUSING ON THIS TECHNOLOGY.
YOU ALWAYS -- ONE THING THAT WE
DID NOT ADDRESS IN THIS REPORT.
WE HAD -- ARE THERE EASIER WAYS
FOR SOMEONE TO GET THIS TYPE OF
DATA.
SOME OF THE DATA IS FOR SALE.
THEY SELL INFORMATION LIKE
COMPANIES THAT REPOSSESS CARS
FOR EXAMPLE.
WE DID NOT TRY TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION IN THIS REPORT ABOUT
-- ARE THERE EASIER WAYS FOR
SOMEONE TO GET THIS DATA THAN
TAKING IT OUT THE SYSTEM.
WE WERE JUST LOOKING TAT WITHIN
THE CONFINES OF THE SYSTEM.
>> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE COSTS?
>> YES.
>> I AM THERE.
>> FOR ME IT DOES RAISE --
>> YES.
>> IT RAISES THE QUESTIONS,
AGAIN, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TO
HERBOLD'S POINT WAS THERE ANY
RACIAL EQUITY ANALYSIS DONE IN
WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE PLACED
AND I UNDERSTAND FOR THIS
PURPOSE IT IS REALLY JUST ABOUT
DETERMINING TRAVEL TIME BUT
GIVEN THE REALITY THERE ARE
LOTS OF CAMERAS AND COMMUNITY
FEELS LIKE THEY ARE BEING
SURVEILLED, OVERLY SURVEILLED
ALREADY.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE ARE
KEEPING THAT IN MIND WHEN WE
MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE TO
PUT OR EVEN REPLACE CAMERAS AND
IF THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO DO
THAT.
AND THE SECOND IS, HOW MUCH ARE
WE SPENDING ON ALL OF THESE
CAMERAS?
IS THERE A BETTER USE OF SOME
OF THESE RESOURCES, YOU KNOW,
WE JUST HEARD FROM THE
PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD AND
THE BICYCLE ADVISORY BOARD, ARE
THERE INVESTMENTS IN
INFRASTRUCTURE WE COULD BE
MAKING TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN CARS OR
THAT MIGHT MAKE IT FASTER FOR
PEOPLE TO TRAVEL BECAUSE WE ARE
USING OUR MONEY IN A WAY THAT
SUPPORTS A DIFFERENT KIND OF
INFRASTRUCTURE NOT JUST CAR
INFRASTRUCTURE.
THOSE ARE BIGGER CONVERSATIONS
FOR US TO HAVE.
JUST FOR ME IT IS RAISING A LOT
OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IF THIS IS
THE RIGHT INVESTMENT FOR US TO
BE MAKING IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> I SEE, YES.
>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER 3
OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
INITIALLY LET ME JUST ADDRESS
THE ENFORCEMENT.
IT IS -- THEY GIVE US THE STATE
LAW GIVING US PERMISSION TO DO
THE ENFORCEMENT AND THE
ENGINEERING PROCESS OF THE
AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT.
SO, THAT PRINCIPAL IS RUN BY
SPD AND THEY HIRE -- IT IS A
THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT
PROCESSES IT.
IT IS NOT AN LPR IT IS A CAMERA
TECHNOLOGY AS DAVID STATED
MANY, MANY DIFFERENT CAMERAS.
AND, RED LIGHTEN FORCEMENT, THE
SCHOOL SPEED ZONE, THEY ARE
GREAT SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE
HAVE LAUNCHED, WE LAUNCHED FOR
THIS THING AND THERE IS A PILOT
FOR TRANSIT LANE AND THEN ALSO
BLOCK THE BOX FOR THREE YEARS
THAT THE LEGISLATION PROVIDED
US A PILOT PROJECT TO ROLL IT
OUT.
THE LOWER SPOKANE BRIDGE THAT
IS TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE USING
TO IDENTIFY AUTHORIZED USERS TO
CROSS THAT BRIDGE AND SO FORTH
THAT WE JUST LAUNCHED RECENTLY.
SO THAT IS THE AUTOMATED
ENFORCEMENT.
YOU ASKED ABOUT HOW DATA IS
BEING USED.
SO I WILL USE THE RECENT
SEATTLE BRIDGE CLOSURE AND HOW
WE CAME UP WITH A MITIGATION
PLAN TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES,
SUPPORT FREIGHT, TRANSIT
MOVEMENT FOR THE PENINSULA AND
WE OUTFITTED ALL OF THE ROUTES
IDENTIFIED TO GET PEOPLE IN AND
OUT OF THIS PENINSULA USING
TRAVEL TIME.
IT IS A MEASURE THAT WE USE
SIGNIFICANTLY TO IDENTIFY
CAPACITY ANALYSIS, WHO GETS TO
USE THE LOWER SPOKANE BRIDGE,
ALL OF THE POLICY THAT HAS BEEN
DRIVEN IT IS USING THOSE DATA
AND CALCULATING WHAT THE
CAPACITY ANALYSIS SHOULD BE.
WE HAVE A TASK FORCE SET ASIDE
TO UNDERSTAND IMMEDIATE
BUSINESS IMPACT AND MARITIME
IMPACT AND THIS IS THE DATA WE
USE CONSISTENTLY TO COME UP
WITH DATA-DRIVEN POLICIES TO
SUPPORT IMPACTED COMMUNITIES
LIKE SOUTH PARK AND GEORGETOWN
AND SO FORTH TO GIVE THEM
ACCESS BOTH TO TRANSIT AND
FREIGHT AND SO FORTH.
THIS IS A VERY CRUCIAL THING.
IT IS NOT A CAR MOVING, IT IS A
DATA THAT WE USE TO HAVE A
SUSTAINABLE RELIABLE NETWORK
AND A SPIKE IN ALL MODES.
AND ARE ALSO IN A PLACE, A
PLANNING TRIP AND SO FORTH.
IT HELPS US ASSESS HOW WE
ALLOCATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY,
CREATING BIKE LANES AND ALL OF
THOSE FACTORS ARE ELEMENT THAT
ARE SUPPORTED BY THIS DATA.
YOU ASKED ABOUT, THIS
INVESTMENT IS WORTHWHILE?
THE INVESTMENT COMES IN WITH
WHEN WE MANAGE THE NETWORK IN A
MORE STABLE MANNER FOR TRANSIT
RELIABILITY, IMPACTED INDUSTRY
SUCH AS THE MARITIME AND WEST
SEATTLE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE
BEEN HEARING CONTINUOUSLY AND
MAKING SURE ACCESS IS ADEQUATE.
EQUITY MANNER DISTRIBUTED TO
HAVE ACCESS TO THE LOWER
SPOKANE BRIDGE THAT GIVES THEM
MORE CLOSER TOUCH POINT TO
THEIR BUSINESSES AND ACCESS.
SO, THAT, THAT IS HOW I WANTED
TO -- I JUST WANTED TO SHARE
THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE USE.
AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO EMPLOY
SAOEUS THE -- EMPHASIZE, THE
LICENSE PLATE, THE DATA IS
NEVER KEPT.
THE TRAVEL TIME.
THAT WE UTILIZE TO SERVE AS ALL
OF THOSE THINGS.
THEY TAKE PRIVACY VERY, VERY
SERIOUSLY.
BEING THE LEADING DEPARTMENT
HERE AND WITH THE 3
TECHNOLOGIES IDENTIFIED TO GO
THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE, EVEN
10 YEARS AGO WE THOUGHT ABOUT
PRIVACY AND FIGURING OUT THAT
NOT TO KEEP PII WITHOUT THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE PRESENT
AT THAT TIME.
SO I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE
THAT DATA IS CRUCIAL.
WE MAKE THE DECISION ON SAFETY.
EFFICIENCY FOR ALL MODES USING
THIS PARTICULAR DATA.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ADIAM.
>> GOOD AND IMPORTANT
QUESTIONS, REALLY APPRECIATE
THIS AND THE RESPONSES.
AND IT IS NICE THAT WE, IF WE
DO HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WE
KNOW THE AUDITOR WILL KEEP
TRACK OF THIS FOR US AND THEN
SDOT IS AVAILABLE TO US TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
COUNCILMEMBERS ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
AND THANK YOU AUDITOR JONES AND
MEGUMI, ADIAM IT IS ALWAYS
GREAT TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
I GUESS, JUST PUTTING A FINER
TIP ON IT AND YOU MAY OF
ADDRESSED IT BUT I WANTED TO
PULL IT OUT.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATION THAT
WE SOLVE FOR TODAY AND WHAT DO
WE NEED TO DO IN THE SHORT
TERM?
WHAT IS THE FIRST THING WE NEED
TO GET GOING ON?
>> WE NEED TO EXPEDITE IT.
I WANT TO MENTION THAT WSDOT
DOES NOT HAVE THE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE.
THERE IS NO REASON FOR THEM TO
INVEST IN IT.
SO UNDERSTANDING THOSE THINGS
AND US BALANCING THE RETURN OF
INVESTMENT TO SPEND MONEY ON
SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PHASING
OUT TO CREATE TRAINING
PRACTICES AND SO FORTH ARE THE
FINANCIAL DECISION THAT WE MAKE
TO EXPEDITE AND TRANSITIONING
IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
SO, AND THEN THE REST OF THEM.
SO THAT IS THE TWO
RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE
TRAINING AND DATA AGREEMENT
WITH WSDOT THAT WE WOULD LIKE
TO HONOR.
IF WE CAN NOT LAND THERE, AND
THEN THE REST OF IT IS MORE OF
DOCUMENTATION ALIGNMENT AND
WORDING AND SO FORTH THAT WE
NEED TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH
IT TO DEMONSTRATE.
I ALWAYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT
NETWORK SECURITY.
JASON IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT --
WE HAVE ACTUALLY INVESTED IN
GETTING A PRIVATE CONSULTANT TO
COME IN AND DO AN AUDIT ON OUR
STREET NETWORK AND IMPLEMENTED
A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH IT TO
CONTINUOUSLY MAINTAIN SO IF WE
ARE WORRY ABOUT HACKING ON
THOSE CAMERAS AND SO FORTH WE
HAVE A GREAT PROCESS AND
PARTNERSHIP AND TOUCH POINT
WITH IT THAT WE CONTINUOUSLY
NEED TO MONITOR OUR NET WORK.
NOT JUST FOR THE LPR BUT ALL OF
THE TRAFFIC CAMERAS THAT YOU
WILL BE HEARING ABOUT DOWN-THE-
LINE.
AND OTHER TRAFFIC-RELATED
DEVICES SUCH AS TRAFFIC SIGNALS
AND STUFF.
BUT, WE TAKE SECURITY VERY
SERIOUSLY.
BUT, JASON DO YOU WANT TO ADD
COMING ON THAT NOTE?
>> THANKS.
>> JUST, JUST BRIEFLY.
YOU KNOW, I BUILT A GREAT
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHIEF
INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER
FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE,
SEATTLE IT IN MY POSITION.
SUPERVISING THE TECHNOLOGY
TEAM.
BACK IN 2019, HE MOVED ON TO
CREATE A CYBERSECURITY FIRM.
WE STAYED IN TOUCH AND AS
MEGUMI MENTIONED WE INVESTED,
THE DEPARTMENT DID, TO PERFORM
AN AUDIT OF OURSELVES AND WE
WORKED WITH SEATTLE IT TO
UNDERSTAND HOW TO PRIORITIZE
AND IMPLEMENT AND MITIGATE THE
RISKS THAT WERE DISCOVERED IN
THE AUDIT.
THEN IN 2019, THE SECURITY TEAM
BEGAN INTRODUCING AN AUDITING
PROCESS TO THE CUSTOMER
DEPARTMENT.
WE FULLY PARTICIPATED THAT IN
2019.
THAT WILL BE A BI-ANNUAL
PROCESS.
AGAIN, 2021 WE WILL PARTICIPATE
IN ANOTHER AUDIT.
MY TEAM IS TRAINED ON MODERN
SECURITY METHODS AND TACTICS
AND YEAH, WE JUST TAKE SECURITY
AND
PRIVACY SERIOUSLY AS A
DEPARTMENT.
>> THE NEXT QUESTION, YOU
ALREADY ASKED MY FOLLOW UP
QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
YOUR WORK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> LOVELY TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
COUNCILMEMBERS, AGAIN, THE
AUDITOR WILL BE AUDITOR'S
OFFICE IN THE LEGISLATIVE
BRANCH AT OUR DISPOSAL FOR
QUESTIONS AND FOLLOW UP.
WE ARE GLAD TO HEAR AUDITOR
JONES AND HIS TEAM WILL BE
FOLLOWING UP ON THIS.
AND, IT IS GOOD TO HEAR
DIRECTLY FROM SDOT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING AVAILABLE
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SUPPLY
ALL OF THE CONTACTS FOR US.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO ASK
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES AND REVIEWING THE
OFFICIAL SURVEILLANCE REPORTS
AS WELL.
AND GETTING BACK TO YOU WITH
ANY CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR FROM
THE PUBLIC ABOUT THESE.
WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THE
TECHNOLOGY WE ARE REALLY
LOOKING FORWARD TO LIKE THE
BLOCK AND THE BOX TECHNOLOGY
AND OF COURSE SAFETY AROUND
SCHOOLS AND PROVIDING THAT
ACCESS TO THE LOWER WEST
SEATTLE BRIDGE.
AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, PROTECTING THE DATA, THE
PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE
INFORMATION AND SO WE ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE TO BALANCE THAT,
WORK WITH OUR AUDITOR, TOO, AND
WITH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND
IN THIS CASE, SDOT.
COUNCILMEMBERS ANY FINAL
QUESTIONS?
>> OKAY.
OH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I AM SORRY.
VERY SHORT QUESTIONS THAT WERE
LEFT ON MY LIST.
I JUST WANTED TO -- I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE RAW DATA IS
SHARED WITH WSDOT I JUST WANT
TO HEAR THAT IT IS NOT -- I
KNOW SDOT DOES NOT USE IT FOR
ENFORCEMENT BUT IT IS NOT
SHARED WITH SPD IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> IT IS NOT SHARED.
IT IS NOT SHARED.
>> YES.
WE ASKED THAT QUESTION DIRECTLY
TO WSDOT, MEGUMI AND THEY SAID
WE DO NOT SHARE IT WITH ANYONE.
>> AND THEN LASTLY, I
UNDERSTAND THAT WSDOT
TEMPORARILY HOLDS THE RAW DATA
FOR SEVEN-DAYS DOES SDOT AS
WELL?
>> NO.
>> WE DON'T.
>> AND WSDOT TAKES THE RAW
PLATE INFORMATION AND
IMMEDIATELY RANDOMIZES IT,
ASSIGNS IT A VALUE THAT YOU CAN
NOT REVERSE BACK TO THE
ORIGINAL PLATE INFORMATION?
THEY DO HOLD THAT FOR SEVEN-
DAYS FOR TROUBLE SHOOTING
PURPOSES.
SO, AGAIN, THE RAW DATA IS
NEVER HELD BY SDOT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> AND FINAL QUESTIONS BEFORE
WE END THIS AGENDA ITEM AND
SIGN OFF?
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
TODAY.
THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM ON THE
AGENDA.
IT CONCLUDES THE JANUARY 20 21
MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING AND WE
ARE ADJOURNED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD-BYE.
>> THANK YOU