>>> RECORDING.
THANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON
AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
THE SPECIAL MEETING WILL NOW
COME TO ORDER IT IS 2:04 P.M.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA,
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> PRESENT.
>> PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> HERE.
>> QUORUM PRESENT.
PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEMS OF
BUSINESS.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA
IS ADOPTED.
WE WILL NOW START PUBLIC
COMMENT.
OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE PUBLIC
COMMENT REGULARLY AS THE
CITYCOUNCIL RESERVES TO HOLD
PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL MODERATE TODAY'S PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS
MEETING IS 20 MINUTES.
EACH SPEAKERS WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I WILL CALL ON EACH SPEAKER THE
WAY THEY REGISTERED ON THE
COUNTY'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU'RE NOT YET REGISTERED TO
SPEAK BUT WOULD LIKE TO YOU CAN
SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BY
GOING TO OUR WEBSITE.
THE LINK IS ALSO LISTED ON OUR
AGENDA.
ONCE YOUR NAME IS CALLED, STAFF
WILL UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.
YOU WILL HEAR THE PROMPT THAT
YOU ARE UNMUTED THEN WE WILL
PRESS STAR SIX.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR
NAME, THE ITEM YOU'RE
ADDRESSING AND PUBLIC COMMENT
SHOULD RELATE TO AN ITEM ON THE
AGENDA.
YOU WILL HEAR A CHIME, AND ONCE
YOU HEAR THE CHIME YOU WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES PROVIDED.
ONCE YOU HEAR THE CHIME, TRY TO
WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE
DISCONNECT FROM YOUR LINE AND
YOU CAN FINISH WATCHING THIS
COMMITTEE MEETING ON SEATTLE
CHANNEL.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW
OPEN.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO PUBLIC
COMMENTS COMMENTERS SIGNED UP.
>> THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON.
1955, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD
REJECT THIS RACIST ANTI WHITE
CITIZEN POLICY KNOWN AS THE
RACE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE LAND
FORCING GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES TO
DISCRIMINATE FOR SAKE,
PURPOSELY HATE AND CITIZEN FOR
THEIR SKIN COLOR.
PRIORITIZING CRIMINALS INTO
MOTEL WHILE REDIRECTING.
EXCUSE ME SECONDLY, THE
RESOLUTION 32029 SHOULD BE
REJECTED OUT OF PRINCIPLE.
IT'S INTRODUCED AFTER COUNCIL
LOST ELECTION.
COUNCIL WANTS TO FURTHER UNDER
MINE DEMOCRACY.
IF CITY COUNCIL STAFF DOESN'T
LIKE TO WORK ON WEEKENDS NOR
HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF
COMMUNITY AT HEART OR THE
ABILITY TO STAY SOBER ON
WEEKENDS MAYBE THEY SHOULD FIND
ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.
STOP TRYING TO UNDER MINE OUR
COMMUNITY.
YOU'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO
REAL PROCESS AND BAD PRACTICES
FROM THE RACIST CULTURE.
BULLYING AND TAKING OVER THE
MICROPHONE CREATING RACIST
RETALIATORY GOVERNMENT.
WE NEED A LAW PROTECTING THE
PEOPLE'S DEMOCRACY FORCE PEOPLE
AND HYPOCRITE CAL HYPOCRITICAL.
AND THEY SHOULD CONFRONT THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO SCORN THEM
INSTEAD OF TAKING IT OUT ON THE
INNOCENT COMMUNITY WHO'S
SUFFERING YOUR EVIL RACIST WAR
LANDS POLICIES.
REJECT THESE TWO RESOLUTIONS
AND IDEAS FROM THE RACIST
MISEDUCATION SIGN OF HATE AND
INNOBLE AND GREAT.
STOP JUDGING PEOPLE OF THEIR
SKIN COLOR.
EVEN MARTIN LUTHER JR. WOULD
BERETALIATING YOU.
SOBER UP FOLKS.
>> NEXT UP IS HEATHER KELLY.
HHEATHER, WELCOME.
>> HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY.
>> I AM.
>> I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE
LEAGUE OF WOMEN'S VOTERS OF
SEATTLE KING COUNTY.
AND I LIVE IN FINEY RIDGE.
AND I JUST WANT TO CALL AND SAY
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING
THE LEAGUE TO COMMENT ON
RESOLUTION 32029.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE
RULESGOVERNING OUR LEGISLATORS
AND WE WILL BE SUBMITTING
COMMENTS BY E-MAIL.
BUT I JUST ALSO WANTED TO
FOLLOW UP ON WHAT COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS REGARDING
LEGISLATION STATUS AND WITHOUT
A SPONSOR IDENTIFYING THE
LEAGUE AGREES WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS THAT ALTHOUGH WE
KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD
IMPOSE ON THAT RULE ONLY IN
VERY LIMITED REQUIREMENTS.
ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IS NEEDED
TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS APPLIED
ONLY VERY NARROWLY.
THE LEAGUE AS WE KNOW IS A
PROPONENT OF OPEN GOVERNMENT,
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
ON WHAT WE ADVOCATE FOR ACROSS
KING COUNTY.
SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
COME ACROSS.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
THE COUNCIL FOR EVERY EFFORT
YOU MADE TO KEEP MEETINGS OPEN
AND ACCESSIBLE AND TO PROVIDE
WRITTEN MATERIALS IN ADVANCE
EVEN DURING THE PANDEMIC.
WE WERE ABLE TO RELAUNCH A KEY
OF WOMEN VOTERS DURING THE
PANDEMIC WHERE WE HAVE
VOLUNTEER TO ATTEND PUBLIC
MEETING AND THEN PROVIDE
REPORTS.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WATCH
WHAT'S GOING ON IN SEATTLE AS
WE SEATTLE IN SO MANY
IMPORTANTAREAS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND I'LL
BE IN TOUCH BY E-MAIL.
>> THANK YOU HEATHER FOR
CALLING TODAY AND BRINGING US
YOUR COMMENT.
JUST CONFIRMING WITH IT IF
THERE ARE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC
COMMENTS>> THERE ARE NO FURTHER
PUBLIC COMMENTERS.
>> THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND WE
WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER ITEMS OF
BUSINESS ON OUR AGENDA.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS OF
BUSINESS ON TODAY'S AGENDA THE
FIRST WILL BE THE PRESENTATION
FROM OUR DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN
RESOURCES ON THE SOCIAL JUSTICE
INITIATIVE.
TE SECOND WILL BE
CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS
32029 RELATED TO THE GENERAL
RULES OF THE SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL.
THAT IS SLATED FOR BRIEFING
DISCUSSION AND A VOTE.
SO WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ
ITEM ONE INTO THE RECORD.
>> ITEM ONE, PRESENTATION FOR
BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> I DO WANT TO NOTE FOR THE
RECORD THAT WE'RE JOINED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
SO WE HAVE THE FIRST AGENDA
ITEM AS THE CLERK JUST READ
INTO THE RECORD.
IT'S A PRESENTATION FROM THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF RESOURCES
INVOLVING THE SOCIAL JUSTICE
INITIATIVE.
I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAND
IT OVER TO THE GOOD FOLKS OF
OUR DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN
RESOURCES AND WE WILL DIG INTO
THE PRESENTATION.
WHO'S GOING TO KICK US OFF.
IS THAT GOING TO BE YOU.
>> I WILL, ONLY BECAUSE OUR
DIRECTOR IS HERE.
SHE'S ON THERE AS QUESTION MARK
LOVE QUESTION MARK.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE LET HER GO.
>> WE NOW HAVE OUR INTERIM
DIRECTOR OF HR IN HERE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT DIRECTOR
LOVING.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AS ALWAYS AND
THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.
>> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH
COUNCIL MEMBER.
I APOLOGIZE FOR MY
TECHNOLOGICAL CHALLENGES.
THANK YOU FOR GETTING ME IN.
WE'RE SUPER EXCITED.
I'M THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO
INTRODUCE SOME OF OUR TEAM THAT
HAS WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD
ON THE RACIAL EQUITY AND SOCIAL
JUSTICE SPACE AND ON THIS
PARTICULAR UPDATE.
SO OF COURSE YOU WERE SPEAKING
WITH OUR FEARLESS DIRECTOR AND
LEADER OF WORK FORCE EQUITY
FELICIA CALDWELL WHO LEADS THE
TEAM AND WE HAVE OUR CURRENT
CHANGE LEAD VANESSA.
I'M GOING TO BE QUIET TO HEAR
ABOUT THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
>> WE HAVE A POWER POINT THAT
WE'RE GOING TO SHARE HERE.
>> CUE THAT UP.
THERE IT GOES.
ALL RIGHT.
WE CAN SEE IT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT
SLIDE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU
EVERYBODY.
MY NAME IS VANESSA BLOOMBURG
I'M ONE OF THE CHANGE TEAM
COLLEAGUES.
HERE'S THE OVERVIEW OF THE
TOPICS WE WILL COVER TODAY.
PRETTY MUCH ALL OF HSR WORKS
FOCUSES ON WORK FORCE EQUITY.
THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S AN
INTERNALLY FOCUSED DEPARTMENT
AND WORK FORCE EQUITY IS THE
AREA THAT WE HAVE THE MOST
IMPACT ON.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL
SEE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION
TODAY.
NEXT WE'RE GOING TO SEE AN
OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGE TEAM
ACTIVITIES THIS YEAR AS WELL AS
FOUR OF THE RACIAL TOOL KITS
THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY HR.
THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR
DEPARTMENTS ESTABLISHMENTS.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF SUCCESSFUL
PROJECTS THIS YEAR AND WE'RE
ONLY GOING TO HAVE TIME TO GET
THROUGH A FEW OF THEM.
WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE WAYS
THAT WE ARE HOLDING SPACE FOR
PEOPLE'S FEELINGS.
AND NEXT UP PAM WILL BE TALKING
ABOUT OUR FIRST TOPIC THE
CHANGE TEAM OVERVIEW.
>> THANK YOU, VANESSA.
HELLO I'M PAM DONALDSON TEAM OF
THE HR TEAM.
THROUGHOUT THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE
BEEN THROUGH CHANGE AS A
DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY.
ESPECIALLY IN HOUR HR HAS BEEN
GREATLY IMPACTED IN SUPPORTING
COVID-19 RESPONSE AND
VACCINATION EFFORT WHILE
CONTINUING TO CENTER SHIFT
PRIORITY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO TRANSFORM
THE TEAM TO BEST FOSTER RACIAL
EQUITY.
AS A CHANGE TEAM WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO DO THE FOLLOWING.
INCREASE COLLABORATION WITH
WORK FORCE EQUITY UNIT AND THE
RH NETWORK.
INCREASE CHANGE NETWORK AND
HAVE MEANINGFUL AND TOUGH
CONVERSATIONS.
PARTICIPATE IN RSJ KEY LEADERS
PROGRAM AND USE WHAT IS NEEDED
FOR OUR LEADERS GROUP.
PROVIDE ADVISING TO THE
DEPARTMENT.
IN THIS PRESENTATION, WE WILL
BE TOUCHING ON SOME OF THESE
AREAS MORE IN DEPTH AS IT
CONNECTS WITH A GREATER
COLLABORATION WITH WORK FORCE
EQUITY.
VANESSA WILL DISCUSS SOME OF
OUR RACIAL TOOL KITS IN 2021.
SLIDE
PLEASE.
>> NOW THE RACIAL EQUITY TOOL
KITS.
HR'S WORK IS PRETTY UNUSUAL.
WE BOTH WORK ON INTERNAL
DEPARTMENTS SCHEDULES AS WELL
PROJECTS THAT AFFECT THE WHOLE
CITY.
THE LARGER WHOLE CITY R AT WERE
EXPECTED TO INCLUDE MULTIPLE
DEPARTMENTS.
SO TODAY, WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON
OUR DEPARTMENTR.E.
T. THE FIRST OFFICE REACH.
AS YOU MAY KNOW REACH IS A SELF-
DIRECTED WELLNESS PROGRAM THAT
THE CITY PROVIDES THAT INCLUDE
CONTENT LIKE ARTICLES AND
VIDEOS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.
THE BENEFITS TEAM WANTED TO
INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT
AND BY INDIVIDUALS SO THEY
SELECTED A NUMBER OF VIDEOS ON
RSJ TOPIC.
THEY FOUND THAT IT WAS MORE
EQUITABLE FOR WHITE PEOPLE FROM
THE START OF THE PROGRAM.
THE UNIT IMPLEMENTED THE
CONTENT BUT INCLUDED
COMMUNICATION ACKNOWLEDGING IT
WASN'T FOR THEIR CURRENT
AUDIENCE.
THEY WORKED ON PART TWO FOR
TOOLS THAT WOULD REACH THE
INTENDED AUDIENCE AND THAT'S
STILL IN PROCESS.
SECOND, HSR HR BUSINESS PARTNER
WHO IS PROVIDE HR SERVICES FOR
SMALL DEPARTMENTS AND OFFICES
DECIDED TO CREATE A PROCEDURAL
PROGRAM FOR THEMSELVES AND
OTHER HR PRACTITIONERS PROGRAM
WIDE.
ON HOW THE DISTRICT IMPACTS THE
DISTRICT IMPACTS TO IMEMPLOYEE
EMPLOYEES OF NOT USING THESE
PROCEDURES.
THE NEXT R.E.T.
IS SOMETHING YOU THE COUNCIL
MEMBERS MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
THE CIVIL SERVICE PROJECT.
THEY DECIDED TO CREATE A
REQUEST FORM FOR CIVIL SERVICE
EXEMPTION DURING THE
CLASSIFICATION PROCESS.
THE TEAM PROVIDED FEED BACK
THAT THE LAND COULD NOT BE
SATISFIED BY A FORM ALONE SO
CLASS MOVED FORWARD WITH
CREATING ANOTHER PROJECT TEAM
TO CREATE A MOREDETAILED
GUIDANCE FOR THE PROJECT THAT
ALSO INCLUDED THEADVISOR TO DIG
DEEPER INTO THE QUESTION.
THAT PART OF THE PROJECT IS
STILL IN PROCESS.
FINALLY, THERE'S A DEFERRED
COMPLEX SITE.
DUE TO THEIR VENDOR
IMPLEMENTING A NEW VERSION.
DEFERRED CON CREATED A CONCRETE
TO MAKE SURE CHANGES WOULD NOT
HAVE MARGINALIZED CONVERSATION.
BASED ON EQUITY BASED RECEIVED
THEY WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT
SEVERAL DIFFERENT CHANGES TO
THE WEBSITE INCLUDING ADDING
CLOSED CAPTIONING TO VIDEOS.
WORKING MAKING SURE THE WEBSITE
WOULD WORK WITH SCREEN READERS.
AND THEY ARE ALSO IN THE
PROCESS OF OFFERING A FULL
SPANISH LANGUAGE TRANSLATION OF
THE WEBSITE.
ALL RIGHT, AND NOW, TURN IT
BACK OVER TO PAM FOR TALKING
ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE
DID WITH RACIAL EQUITY TOOL
KITS.
SLIDE.
>> AFTER HEARING MANY CONCERNS
ABOUT OUR RACIAL EQUITY COOL
KIT FORMS THE CHANGE TEAM TOOK
ON THE PROCESS OF REDESIGNING
THEM.
OUR GOAL WAS TO MAKE THE FORMS
SIMPLER, MORE USER FRIENDLY AND
A GUIDED EXPERIENCE THAT'S MORE
FOCUSED ON A RACIAL EQUITY
OUTCOME.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT MANY UNITS
WITHIN HSR DON'T DEAL DIRECTLY
WITH THE PUBLIC.
WE ENGAGE STAKE HOLDERS BY
MEETING WITH STAFF DURING
MULTIPLE SESSIONS TO GO OVER
THE REVISED FORM.
WE HOST A TARGETED WORKSHOPS.
FACILITATED, LEARNING AND
DEVELOPMENT FORMS AND THE NEW
CHANGE TEAM ADVISOR PROGRAM.
OUR GOAL WAS TO IMPLEMENT A
PROCESS FOR INTENTIONALLY
STARTING AND WORKING ON A
PROGRAM, POLICY OR PROJECT FROM
AN EQUITY CENTERED PERSPECTIVE.
SLIDE PLEASE.
OUR CHANGE TEAM INTRODUCED THE
ADVISORY PROGRAM SINCE 2021 AND
TONIGHT WE ADVISE ON EIGHT
PROJECTS.
THE NEED WAS BORN OUT OF A FEW
FACTORS WE OBSERVED FROM PAST
RACIAL EQUITY REVIEWS.
FIRST WE ARE SEEING THAT THE
TEAM WAS NOT BEING ENGAGED
EARLY ENOUGH IN THE PROCESS.
MANY INDIVIDUALS STRUGGLED WITH
IDENTIFYING A RACIAL EQUITY
OUTCOME.
SECOND, PROJECT ROOTS AND OUR
TEAM SAW THE EQUITY REVIEWS AS
A BURDEN TO THEIR PROCESS
INSTEAD OF A PART OF THE
PROCESS.
THIRD, THE TIME LIMITS OF
CHANGE TEAM BACK WAS NEGATIVELY
IMPACT.
AT LEAST TWO ADVISORS MEET ONE
ON ONE WITH A PROJECT GROUP TO
ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT
COMPLETING AN R.E.T.
AND CHECK IN IF THE PROJECT
CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
THAT GOAL.
AND MAKE DECISIONS WITH THE
CHANGE TEAM.
USING ADVISORS FROM THE CHANGE
TEAM HAS CREATED A GREAT AVENUE
TO ENGAGE THE TEAM ON SMALLER
PROJECTS THAT WOULD NOT
NECESSARILY WARRANT AN ENTIRE
REVIEW BY THE WHOLE TEAM.
THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFULLY COMBINED WITH THE
R.E.T.
TRAINING PROGRAM AND REVISED
FORMS IN HAVING HIGHER QUALITY,
RACIAL EQUITY REVIEWS THAT
INCLUDE RACIAL EQUITY OUTCOMES.
ADDITIONALLY THIS HAS LED TO
EARLIER ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
CHANGE TEAM WHERE FEED BACK IS
BEING IMPLEMENTED AND USED ON
CHANGE TEAMS.
NOW FELICIA CALDWELL WILL
DISCUSS OVER ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
>> THE WORK FORCE EQUITY TEAM
WAS CREATED IN 2015 IN RESPONSE
TO EXECUTIVE ORDER IN 215 O TWO
WORK FORCE INITIATIVE
ANDCOUNCIL RESOLUTION.
HOWEVER EQUITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN
A STRATEGY FOR RACIAL SOCIAL
JUSTICE.
THE TEAM DEVELOPED THE FIRST
WORK FORCE EQUITY STRATEGIC
PLAN WHICH I'M SURE PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ WILL REMEMBER VERY
WELL.
CREATED THAT SAME PLAN WITH THE
DEFINITION YOU SEE HERE IN
2016.
THAT PLAN INCLUDED MULTIPLE
STRATEGIES AND IS OVERSEEN BY
WE PACK THE WORK FORCE EQUITY
PLANNING AND ADVISORY
COMMITTEE.
WHICH IS AN IDT CHAIRED BY SDHR
DIRECTORS.
IN ADDITION.
EXECUTIVE ORDERS HAS CONTINUED
TO STRENGHTEN THE TEAM.
THE IDT WHO CREATED CHANGE FOR
THIS AREA INCLUDED COUNCIL
MEMBERS AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE.
SINCE WORK FORCE EQUITY
CONNECTS TO OUR LARGER ISJ WORK
WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU
SOME BRIEF INFORMATION ABOUT
THE STRATEGIC PLAN BEFORE
MOVING INTO OUR
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
SO WHERE ARE WE?
AFTER FIVE YEARS WE KNOW THAT
GENERALLY FEMALES ARE UNDER
REPRESENTED THROUGHOUT THE
CITY.
THAT AS A CITY, OUR WORK FORCE
IS REPRESENTATIVE OF EMPLOYEES
OVER ALL BUT, BY POC EMPLOYEES
ARE UNDER REPRESENTED AT THE
TOP LEVELS OF SUPERVISORS AND
WAGE EARNERS.
LATIN X ARE THE
MOSTUNREPRESENTED GROUP ACROSS
THE ENTIRE WORK FORCE.
BIPOC WOMEN ARE MOST UNDER
REPRESENTED AT THE TOP LEVELS
OF PAY AND SUPERVISORY
AUTHORITY.
MEN OF COLOR CONTINUE TO BE
OVERREPRESENTED IN DISCIPLINE.
AND WE HAD A VERY STRANGE THING
THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE
CONSISTENT.
EXCEPT FOR ASIANS, BIPOC
EMPLOYEES ARE FAR LESS LIKELY
TO GET A PERFORMANCE RATING OF
EXCEEDS EXPECTATIONS.
SO WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED AND
WHAT DO WE PLAN TO DO?
WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE
MORE DATA DRIVEN.
WE HAVE IMPROVED OUR DATA
COLLECTION AND ARE STILL DOING
SO.
WE ARE EMPLOYEE DRIVEN, WE ARE
MEETING WITH SEVERAL EMPLOYEE
ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS AND SURVEYS
AND OTHER WAYS TO REACH OUT TO
EMPLOYEES.
WE PLAN TO CONCENTRATE ON TWO
TO FOUR MAJOR STRATEGIES
INSTEAD OF 12 OR 15.
WE HOPE TO REDEFINE WORK FORCE
EQUITY WITH MORE OF A RACIAL
LENS.
THE NEW WORK FORCE EQUITIES
WORK FORCE EQUITY STRATEGIC
PLAN FOR APPROVAL AND ADOPTION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH, THIS
IS JUST A SAMPLE.
IT'S NOT OUR ENTIRE LIST WHEN I
SENT OUT THE REQUEST FOR
RSJACCOMPLISHMENTS I GOT FIVE
PAGES FROM WITHIN OUR
DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD THAT
WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO
SHAREEVERYTHING IN DEPTH SO
WE'LL HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF
AREAS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THIS, SORRY,
SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT, I WANT
TO APOLOGIZE FIRST OFF FOR
THAT.
THESE ARE ALL ACCOMPLISHMENTS
THAT ARE CORRECT.
BUT I WANT TO ADD A COUPLE
MORE.
ONE IS THAT WE HAVE AN A TO Z
INVESTIGATION CHECKLIST THAT
WAS CREATED BY THE HUMAN
RESOURCES INVESTIGATION UNIT
AND REMEMBER THAT WAS ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE
ANTI HARASSMENT INVESTIGATION
RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEY'VE CREATED A CHECKLIST
THAT ESSENTIALLY WENT THROUGH A
TOOL KIT.
AND CITY WIDE INVESTIGATIONS
AND TO INCLUDE TRAUMA INFORMED
AND EMOTIONALLY LITERAL
TECHNIQUES.
AS WELL AS R.E.T.
APPROVED DOCUMENTS.
THE SAME THING WE'RE ABLE TO DO
THE INVESTIGATION UNIT IS THEY
ACTUALLY PROVIDE FOCUSED
INVESTIGATION TRAINING EVERY
MONTH TO HR EMPLOYEES WHO DO
INVESTIGATIONS IN THEIR
DEPARTMENT AND THESE ARE ALL
EMPLOYEE INVESTIGATIONS.
AND THIS TRAINING WAS GEARED
TOWARD ENSURING THAT EMPLOYEE
VOICES AREN'T SILENCED AND THAT
THE CONCERNS ARE IN FACT,
ELEVATED TO HRIU.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ
THROUGH ALL OF THESE.
I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN JUST
READ QUICKLY KIND OF SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING
ON WITH THAT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
MORE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
WHEN COVID HIT OUR EMPLOYEES
WERE IN DANGER TO LOSE THEIR
JOBS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T
ANYBODY TO SUPERVISE THEM OR
THEIR JOBS WOULD HAVE CHANGED
DRASTICALLY DURING THIS TIME.
WE WERE ABLE TO REDESIGN EVERY
SECURITY ROLE TO MEET THE
CHANGING WORK ENVIRONMENT AND
TO SAFEGUARD THEIR JOBAND THAT
SO MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS WE
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
THEM AT THE TIME.
ANOTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE
TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE POLICE
OFFICERS EXAMINATIONS.
WE'VE ADDED A SECTION TO THE
EXAMINATIONS FOR IN COMING OR
FOR FIRST TIME POLICE OFFICERS
COMING INTO THE CITY.
AND THIS EXAM ACTUALLY
INCREASES ACCESS TO APPLICANTS
AND PROVIDES AND EQUITY LENS ON
THE EXAM.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
IT'S NOW SCREENING FOR BIAS AND
GROUP THINK AMONGST OTHER
SUBJECTS.
IT'S PRETTY NEW.
HOW DIFFERENT IT MAY BE.
AND IT SEEMS TO BE INCREASING
THE PEOPLE OF COLOR PASSING THE
EXAM.
THE NEXT ONE I WOULD LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT IS THE CITY BUDGET
ACCOUNTABILITY.
WEPAC HAS BEEN PARTNERING WITH
RACIAL SOCIAL JUSTICE PROGRAM
AND CDL IN ORDER TO HAVE A
BETTER EQUITY LENS ON BUDGET
REQUEST.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT IS THE LEADERSHIP
EXPECTATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY
PLAN ASSESSMENT AND TOOLS.
THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN WE
DID THE INITIAL STRATEGIC PLAN
WE DID A LOT OF INTERVIEWS AND
EVERYONE AGREED THAT LEADERS
SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO
RSJ.
AND MOST PEOPLE AGREED THEY
DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT
HAPPEN.
SO WEPAC TOOK THIS ON AND
ACTUALLY CREATED A TOOL THAT
WILL HELP CITY LEADERS INCREASE
THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF WORK FORCE
EQUITY AND RSJI AND
DEVELOPSKILLS TO DISRUPT
INSTITUTIONAL RACISM.
NEXT PAGE PLEASE.
IT HAS SEVEN COMPETENCY AREAS
THAT ARE LISTED HERE AND EVERY
SINGLE ONE HAS GREAT DETAIL
ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO SHOW UP
AS AN EQUITABLE LEADER.
SO THE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO
THIS OR WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK
LIKE IS NO LONGER AN OPTION IF
THEY HAVE THIS TOOL AVAILABLE
TO THEM.
IT GIVES YOU VERY, VERY
DETAILED LOOK AT EACH OF THESE
PLACES.
NEXT SLIDE.
IT INCLUDES A COMPETENCY
OVERVIEW.
THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE
DESCRIPTIONS ARE.
AN ASSESSMENT TO FIND OUT WHERE
YOU ARE RIGHT NOW AND AN ACTION
PLAN HOW ARE YOU GOING TO
COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR
DEPARTMENT HOW YOU'RE DOING IN
THIS AREATHEN IT INCLUDES LOTS
OF LINKS AND RESOURCES FOR THE
DIRECTOR.
AND THIS IS DESIGNED FOR A
DIRECTOR POSITION IN THE
DEPARTMENT.
THERE ARE A FEW DEPARTMENTS
HAVE THE STOOL THAT COULD BE
VALUABLETO ALL AREAS OF THE
CITY.
SO CITY WIDE, THE HR LEADERS
SPONSOR COMMUNITIES OF HR
PRACTICE.
AND SO THIS IS THE HR LEADERS
WHO ARE OUT IN THE DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE GOAL FOR THESE ARE TO
CREATE ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE HR
SPACE TO CREATE EXPERIENCES OF
BIPOC EMPLOYEES LEADING TO
EXCELLENT WORK EXPERIENCES FOR
ALL.
AND ALTHOUGH THESE ARE
COMMUNITIES OF PRACTICE ARE
SPONSORED BY THE HR LEADERS,
THE WORK TOOLS WHO ARE PUTTING
TOGETHER PROGRAMS AND PROCESSES
AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
POLICIES INCLUDE HR AND NONHR
EMPLOYEES CITY WIDE.
WE ARE TO KNOW FROM CUSTOMERS
WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SOME OF THEM ARE MEETING.
SOME ARE ENDING THIS YEAR,
THEY'VE BEEN GOING ALL YEAR.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY
LOOKING FORWARD TO IS TO CREATE
THIS ANNUAL HR FORUM BUT AS YOU
CAN IMAGINE THIS YEAR IT WAS
KIND OF HARD TO GET TO THAT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO ONE OF THE APPROACHING WE'RE
TAKING TO DO EQUITY WORK IN HSI
AND OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY IS
NOW THIS EQUITY CENTER DESIGN.
IT IS A PRACTICE OF
PURPOSEFULLY INVOLVING
MINORTIZED COMMUNITIES
THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS
WITH THE GOAL OF ALLOWING THEIR
VOICES TO DIRECTLY AFFECT HOW
THE SOLUTION WILL ADDRESS THE
INEQUITY AT HAND.
IT'S FOCUSED ON OPPRESSED
GROUPS THAT ARE THE MOST
IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT AND
REALLY IMPORTANT TO READ
DISTRIBUTION OF POWER AND
SHARING CREATIONS PROCESS
IMPLEMENTATION AND CREATION.
NEXT SLIDE.
DID THE SLIDE MOVE AND I DIDN'T
SEE IT?
>> I THINK OUR IT GOT BUMPED.
NOT A GOOD THING.
WE WILL TRY TO LOG BACK IN.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE MORE SLIDES.
I THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO GET
THROUGH WITHOUT READING ANY OF
THESE.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE USING IS
USING RELATIONAL CULTURE.
IN MANY OVERLAPPING ACCESS OF
LIFE.
IN A WAY TO ALLOW US TO BE
HONEST ABOUT TRUTH TENSION,
DISCONNECTION, PAIN,
POSSIBILITY, CARE AND CHANGE.
SO THAT WE CAN ALL ACT
TOGETHER.
THE SOCR RSJ TEAM HAS CREATED A
LETTER THAT SHOWS WHAT IS
COMING.
WE FIGURED OUT MANY OF THESE
ARE EXPERIENCED BY BUT NOT
EXCLUSIVE TO SEATTLE HUMAN
RESOURCES.
KEY LEADERSHIP AND STAFF TURN
OVER.
THERE'S SO MUCH STAFF TURN OVER
AND LEADERSHIP TURNOVER.
WITH COVID-19, MANY HAVE HAD TO
JUMP ON IT.
SOME OF IT BROUGHT ON BY COVID
BUT SOME NORMAL.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF ISSUES BUT
LACK OF COMMITMENT TO CHANGE.
THIS IS ONE WE WERE ACTUALLY
ABLE TO GIVE OUT AND WE GET
BACK, I DON'T HAVE TIME.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN GREATLY
IMPACTED BY RSJ STAFFING
BECAUSE WE WORK SO CLOSELY.
INFRASTRUCTURE ESPECIALLY FOR
BIPOC WOMEN.
AND PRIORITIZEDAND FINALLY I
WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
WORKPLACE RACIAL EQUITY AND
SOCIAL JUSTICE.
HOW DO WE CREATE SPACE FOR
PEOPLE TO SHARE THEIR
REFLECTIONS, ANGER, FEAR, THEIR
JOY THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND WE'VE DONE IT IN SOME WAYS
BY EMPLOYEES THAT WERE BROUGHT
IT TO US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SUPERVISORS SAY WHAT DOES IT
LOOK LIKE TO HAVE A SUPERVISOR
IN SOME SPACE.
WE CREATED SUPERVISOR STUDIO
FOR PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT'S
DOING WELL IN ONE AREA OR THE
OTHER AND WE CREATED THESE
VIDEOS THAT CAN BE USED IN
LEARNING OR DEVELOPMENT OR JUST
TO VIEW.
WE HAVE MEDITATIONS IN A
BURNING HOUSE.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE MOST
INTERESTING TITLE.
A THREE PART WORKSHOP FOR WOMEN
OF COLOR THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY
TEACHING SELF-CARE.
WHAT DO YOU DO TO MAKE SURE
YOU'RE OKAY.
WE ALSO HOLD RESILIENCE FOR
PEOPLE IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE A GREAT INCREASE, IN
DISCUSSIONS, AND WE ADOPTED
THISCULTURE MOVEMENT.
THE EXPERIENCES OF LOSS AND
TRAUMA OF THE CONTINUED
CONTINUED
RESOURCES.
AND THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO
THE ENTIRE TEAM OVER AT HUMAN
RESOURCES.
WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE
TIME.
AND ALWAYS A GOOD THING.
AND I'M SORRY THAT WE DON'T
HAVE MORE TIME TO HEAR ABOUT
ALL OF THOSE OTHER PAGES WORTH
OF THINGS THAT FOLKS HAVE BEEN
WORKING ON.
I DO WANT TO PROVIDE MY
COLLEAGUES AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE
GENERAL REMARKS ABOUT THE VERY
RICH INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL
HAVE PRESENTED.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS,
COLLEAGUES.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA PLEASE.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND ALL
THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.
IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT JUST NOTED HOW MUCH
WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
I THINK AS YOU NOTED IN YOUR
CONCLUSION COMMENTS.
THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A HARD TWO
YEARS AND THERE HAS BEEN SO
MUCH TURNOVER.
IN ADDITION TO THE HARD YEAR.
IN ADDITION TO THE FATIGUE THAT
WORKERS FACE.
EVERYBODY REALLY LOOKS TO HR TO
HELP PROCESS THAT AND SO THAT'S
ADDITIONAL STRESS ON ALL OF
YOU.
THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE
DONE AND FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK
HERE WITH RSJ CHANGE TEAM.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
WELL I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY
GRATITUDE.
YOU KNOW FELICIA YOU AND I
STARTED WORKING ON THESE ISSUES
WAY BACK IN 2016.
I WANT TO SAY.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT ALL
OF THE PROGRESS
WE'VEPRESENTATIONS PRESENTED.
OBVIOUSLY MUCH MORE WORK IS
NEEDED.
THERE'S A LOT MORE
OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE INVESTING IN THE HEALTH
AND WELLNESS AND ABILITY OF OUR
EMPLOYEES TO THRIVE AND TO FEEL
LIKE THEY BELONG TO THIS CITY
FAMILY AND I REALLY AM DEEPLY
GRATEFUL TO YOU.
TO VANESSA AND TO PAM AND TO
DIRECTOR LOVING FOR ALL OF THE
CARE AND ATTENTION THAT YOU ARE
LENDING TO THIS REALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUE RELATED TO OUR
WORK FORCE.
AND WHERE THINGS COME TO ROOST
IN TERMS OF THE EQUITY
COMMITMENTS FOR, FOR SDHR.
SO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING
YOU'VE DONE AND, AND HOPE YOU
CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE MUCH
PROGRESS AND ADVANCEMENT ON
BEHALF OF AND ALSO SERVE THE
RESIDENTS SO MUCH APPRECIATION
TO ALL OF YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US.
>> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO
PRESENT.
>> OF COURSE; DIRECTOR LOVING
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY?
>> NO.
I'M JUST THANK YOU.
AS A TEAM.
I STAND BEHIND THE TEAM.
SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
WE'RE REALLY PROUD AND WE HAVE
A LOT OF WORK TO DO STILL.
>> LOTS OF WORK IT NEVER ENDS.
MUCH GRATITUDE TO YOU ALL.
IT IS NOT GO BEYOND ME THAT ALL
OF THE FOLKS REPRESENTING TODAY
I THINK IDENTIFY AS WOMEN AND
MOST OF YOU ARE WOMEN OF COLOR
AND SO, AND YOU ALL HAVE TO
CARE.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.
APPARENTLYI'M GOING TO HAVE TO
STEP INTO CLERKING MY OWN
MEETING HERE.
SO I'M GOING TO READ THE SECOND
ITEM INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER TWO RESOLUTION
32029 A RESOLUTION ADOPTING
GENERAL RULES OF THE SEATTLE
CITY COUNCIL SUPERCEDING
RESOLUTION DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTERS
WITH US THIS AFTERNOON FROM
CENTRAL STAFF AND THE CITY
CLERK'S OFFICE.
SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
RECOGNIZE FOLKS TO INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES FOR THE RECORD OWN
THEN WE WILL DIG INTO THE
PRESENTATION.
WE DO HAVE I THINK AT LAST
COUNT ABOUT 15 AMENDMENTS TO
GET THROUGH.
AND WE ARE SCHEDULED TO GO
UNTIL 4:00.
MY HOPE IS WE'RE ABLE TO GET
THROUGH ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS.
THAT WE TAKE A VOTE ON EACH OF
THE AMENDMENTS ASSUMING THAT
AMENDMENTS RECEIVE A SECOND AND
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ULTIMATELY
VOTE ON A RESOLUTION ON
DECEMBER 15th WHICH IS THIS
MONDAY.
SO MY HOPE IS WE'LL BE ABLE TO
GET THROUGH ALL OF THIS CONTENT
TODAY AS OFFICIALLY AND
EFFECTIVELY AS WE CAN.
TO HAVE A CLEAN OF A BILL WITH
COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATION FOR
MONDAY.
THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO
START WITH INTRODUCTIONS.
I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO
CITY CLERK.
MONICA MARTINEZ SIMMONS TO
INTRODUCE HERSELF AND THEN
MONICA IF YOU CAN HAND IT OVER
TO THE NEXT PERSON THAT WOULD
BE GREAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND
GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS.
JOINING ME IS THE COUNCIL
REVIEWING GROUP.
DEPUTY DIRECTOR DAN ETER AND
ATKINSON.
THE FULL WORKING GROUP HAS
LOOKED AT THE AMENDMENT BROUGHT
FORWARD.
WE WILL RUN THROUGH THE
PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION ONE AT A TIME.
PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT THE
WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
FOR THE PROPOSED RULES
RESOLUTION REMAINS OPEN
THROUGHTHROUGH DECEMBER 11th.
THERE WILL ALSO BE A PUBLIC
COMMENT OPPORTUNITY DURING THE
DECEMBER 13th CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
AND ELIZABETH CAN YOU PLEASE
SHOW THAT ALL WRITTEN COMMENT
RECEIVED TODAY HAS BEEN
DISTRIBUTED TO OUR COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
>> AFTERNOON, YES I CAN
CONFIRM ANY WRITTEN COMMENT
THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED THUS FAR
HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED AND WE ARE
STILL WATCHING FOR THOSE COMING
IN COMING YOUR WAY AS THEY
ARRIVE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AT THIS TIME I'LL GO AHEAD
AND TURN THE TIME OVER TO ESTER
HANDY AND SHE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY
DAN EATER.
THANK YOU.
>> DIRECTOR HANDY, WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME WE WOULD LIKE TO
WALK YOU THROUGH THE 15 AMOUNTS
THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED
TODAY.
FOURTEEN AMENDS TO THE COUNCIL
RULES AND THE ONES WE'RE GOING
TO DISCUSS ARE IN ADDITION TO
THAT.
I WILL INVITE IF THEY HAVE
CONNECTIVITY TO ON SCREEN AND
IF NOT I CAN DO SO.
>> SHE IS BACK IN ACTION SO SHE
IS ABLE TO SHARE SCREEN.
THERE WE GO.
WE HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN.
TAKE IT AWAY DIRECTOR HANDY.
>> GREAT.
>> JUST BEFORE SO, REALLY
QUICKLY HERE.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BECAUSE
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE,
WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE
ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
HERE.
BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THESE ARE
AMENDMENTS.
WHAT WE WILL DO IS HAVE YOU
PRESENT ON AN ITEM AND THEN,
AND THEN I THINK PROBABLY
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF
THEM.
THE BEST PROCESS I THINK IS TO
TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE.
OTHERWISE WE WILL HAVE
FORGOTTEN BY THE TIME WE GET TO
NUMBER 15.
WHAT NUMBER ONE WAS.
SO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE OFF
CAMERA JUST BE AWARE THAT WE
WILL TAKE EACH AMENDMENT ONE BY
ONE.
WE WILL HEAR A PRESENTATION ON
SAID AMENDMENT FROM DIRECTOR
HANDY AND OTHER COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF MEMBERS AND THEN WE WILL,
WE WILL MAKE MOTIONS TO ALLOW
FOR US TO HAVE DEBATE
DISCUSSION ABOUT AN AMENDMENT
AND THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE
AMENDMENT INDIVIDUALLY.
SO JUST REALIZED I HAD
FORGOTTEN TO LAY THAT OUT.
SO I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO
DIRECTOR HANDY TO KICK US OFF
WITH AMENDMENT ONE.
>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
AND I WILL DO A DESCRIPTION OF
THE AMENDMENTS.
LOTS OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR
THEM AND THE CITY CLERKS AS
WELL.
AS WE GET INTO DISCUSSION.
AND AMENDMENT ONE, IF YOU FEEL
FREE TO MOVE TO THAT POINT.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ELIMINATE
THE ALTERNATE POSITIONS ON THE
CURRENT COMMITTEES.
STANDING COMMITTEES WILL HAVE
FOUR MEMBERS AND AN ALTERNATE.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO
ATTEND DURING THEIR ABSENCE.
THEIR RESOLUTION 32029 AS WAS
DRAFTED MAKES A CHANGE TO THE
SECTION STANDING COMMITTEES
WILL HAVE AT LEAST FOUR MEMBERS
AND MAY HAVE AN ALTERNATE.
SO MAKES THE ALTERNATE
PERMISSIVE.
>> GREAT, SO COLLEAGUES AGAIN
AS A REMINDER WE ARE ON.
SO HERE ARE AMENDMENTS ONE FOR
COLLEAGUES IN THE COMMITTEE
MEETING.
WE'RE ON AMENDMENT ONE.
THIS AMENDMENT IS SPONSORED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN AS
AGREED TO THE PROCESS.
I AGREED TO PROCESS THOSE
AMENDMENTS FOR NONCOMMITTEE
MEMBERS TO ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION
IN TODAY'S COMMITTEE MEETING.
I'M GOING TO MOVE TO AMEND
RESOLUTION 32029 AS PRESENTED
ON AMENDMENT ONE ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> SECOND SO MUCH.
THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED.
TO MOVE AMENDMENT ONE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN I'M
GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RECOGNIZE
YOU TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT
THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR
COMMENTS, QUESTIONS AND DEBATE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT
AND CHAIR.
APPRECIATE THIS.
I WANT TO THANK THE WORKING
GROUP, THE INTERNAL WORKING
GROUP WHO MET SEVERAL TIMES TO
DISCUSS THESE RULES AND CLERKS
OFFICE.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S OFFICE AND
THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ FOR ENABLING THIS
SPACE AND TIME.
WE'RE NOT MEMBERS OF THE
GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE AND EVEN
FOR PUTTING YOUR NAME ON
CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT
NOT BE VOTING FOR TODAY BUT
JUST MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT GRACE
AND LEADERSHIP.
AND SO THIS ONE IS ELIMINATE
THE ALTERNATE POSITION.
I THINK IT MADE SENSE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS TO INSTITUTE
THAT AS WE SET A REALLY FIRM
MEMBERSHIP OF COMMITTEES TO BE
IN A VERY SAFE HARBOR WITH THE
PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT.
AND HAVING AN ALTERNATE THERE
AS NEEDED.
THE WAY I'VE SEEN IT UNFOLD
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS
JUST IN PRACTICE IS ALTERNATES
OFTEN, SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THE
COMMITTEE MAY BE A BIT NEEDY.
SOMETIMES THREE DAYS IS NOT
ENOUGH.
SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT GETTING
SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO READ
EVERYTHING AND COME UP AS
PREPARED AS THE REGULAR MEMBERS
BECAUSE OF WHEN WE'RE NOTIFIED.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T
DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN AN
ALTERNATE.
WHEN THE VOTING IS HAPPENING
AND YOU SEE THE PHOTOS OF ALL
THE MEMBERS THERE THE
ALTERNATES INCLUDED IT LOOKS
LIKE WE'RE MISSING, WE'RE NOT
AS PREPARED.
THE QUORUM REQUIREMENT IS THREE
MEMBERS OUT OF FIVE.
AND HAVING AN ALTERNATE THAT
MAKES AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER.
IF ONE OF THEM IS ABSENT IS
OKAY.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER IS EATING UP
QUORUM TO HAVE A ROBUST
COMMITTEE.
IT'S OKAY IF IT'S NOT,
SOMETIMES THERE'S A 2-2 TIE.
THINGS COULD STILL BE PULLED
FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
I DO APPRECIATE THE WORKING
GROUP MAKING THE CHANGE TO HAVE
IT A, THE ALTERNATE BE
DISCRETIONARY AS COMMITTEES ARE
FORMED FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
I THINK FOR SIMPLICITY, IT
WOULD BE GREAT TO JUST
ELIMINATE POSITION IS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES OR
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO
PROVIDE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
GONZALEZ AND THANK YOU AS WELL
FOR NONCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I CAN THINK OF ONE POSSIBLE
UNINTENTED CONSEQUENCE OF THIS
AMENDMENT.
AND I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T
WANT TO INFLATE THE LIKELIHOOD
OF THIS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
I CAN THINK OF LIKE FOR
INSTANCE SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE A
COMMITTEE MEMBER, A REGULAR
COMMITTEE MEMBER MIGHT HAVE A
PLANNED ABSENCE.
AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IN ADVANCE.
AND SAY THAT'S THE FIFTH
COMMITTEE MEMBER.
OR IT'S THE FOURTH, I GUESS
MAYBE THAT ISN'T A PROBLEM IF
THERE'S A COMMITTEE.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT A PLANNED
ABSENCE AND A SICKNESS THAT IS
UNPLANNED AND HOW THAT MIGHT
IMPACT THE ABILITY TO MEET
QUORUM.
BUT, AGAIN I DON'T KNOW THAT
WOULD HAPPEN THAT OFTEN AND
WITH A COMMITTEE OF FIVE YOU
WOULD STILL EVEN UNDER THAT
CIRCUMSTANCE HAVE A QUORUM OF
THREE.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING.
GIVEN THAT THE WORK GROUP MADE
A RECOMMENDATION ALLOWING THE
EXISTENCE OF AN ALTERNATE TO BE
PERMISSIVE BASED ON A COMMITTEE
CHAIR'S PREFERENCE.
WHAT OTHER CONSIDERATION ,
OPPOSED TO COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON'S PRESENCE IN THIS
AMENDMENT.
THANKS.
>> GO AHEAD DIRECTOR HANDY.
>> GREAT I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND
TO THAT AND INVITE THE CITY
CLERK TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE.
WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
THE CURRENT PRACTICES THAT
THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS ON
STANDINGCOMMITTEES AND THAT
PROVIDES AN ELIGIBILITY FOR TWO
TO BE ABSENT BEFORE YOU ACCEPT
A QUORUM OF THREE.
COMMITTEE SHALL HAVE AT LEAST
FOUR AND THE INTENTION OF THE
WORKING GROUP WAS THAT THERE
WOULD BE FLEXIBILITY PROVIDED
THE COUNCIL WHEN ESTABLISHING
COMMITTEES THAT IF THEY WERE
GOING TO ESTABLISH SOME
COMMITTEES THAT WERE SMALLER,
THAT INCLUDE FOUR YOU MAY WANT
TO INCLUDE AN ALTERNATE ON
THOSE COMMITTEES SUCH AS IF ONE
PERSON WAS ABSENT YOU WOULD
HAVE QUORUM.
BUT IF TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS
WEREABSENT YOU WOULD NOT.
WE ARE THINKING, I DON'T THINK
WE HAVE A LOT OF MORE SPECIFIC
SCENARIOS THAT WE SORT OF
WORKED THROUGH WHO WE THOUGHT
MAKING IT PERMISSIVE WOULD
RELIEVE THE.
>> SO WOULD THE SPONSOR OF THIS
AMENDMENT BE AMENDABLE TO
INCLUDING LANGUAGE THAT LIMITS
THE ELIMINATION OF ALTERNATES
TO THOSE COMMITTEES THAT HAVE
FIVE MEMBERS.
BECAUSE, DIRECTOR HANDY I THINK
YOUR DESCRIPTION OF A FOUR
MEMBER COMMITTEE IS EXACTLY
WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.
WITH THE PLANNED ABSENCE.
IT'S ON THE BOOKS, BUT THEN
SOMEBODY IS OUT SICK
INEFFECTIVELY.
YOU HAVE TO CANCEL THAT MEETING
IF YOU CAN'T GET THAT ALTERNATE
THERE.
>> PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> YES GO AHEAD.
>> AND IF THERE WAS A FOUR
MEMBER COMMITTEE.
>> I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THE CONTENT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT RIGHT NOW SINCE ABSENCE
IN ITS ENTIRETY FROM A
COMMITTEE MEETING.
THERE ARE INSTANCES IN WHICH
COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SIMPLY LATE
OR TARDY.
AND IN THOSE INSTANCES, THERE
IS IMPACT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR
ME AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO
RECEIVE SEVERAL NOTICES A WEEK
ABOUT NEEDING TO LEAVE EARLY.
ABOUT NEEDING TO ARRIVE UP TO
30 MINUTES LATE.
OR YOU KNOW, OR ONLY BEING ABLE
TO ATTEND SORT OF X YOU KNOW
FROM X, Y, Z TIME TO X, Y, Z
TIME WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH
THOSE RAZOR THIN MARGINS THAT
DOES CALL INTO QUESTION, ABOUT
WHETHER YOU START WITH QUORUM
AND LOSE QUORUM DURING THE
MEETING.
THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT IF TAKE
ACTION IN WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE
QUORUM IS COMPLIANT WITH THE
RULES AND CONTINUE TO MOVE
THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS.
I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF
THAT.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE,
BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT
SORT OF THOSE INSTANCES THAT
I'VE JUST DESCRIBED THOSE
SCENARIOS I JUST DESCRIBED.
I'M NOT SURE THE REVISION BEING
PROPOSED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD TO COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON'S AMENDMENT GOES.
THAT'S WHY I WAS LEANING TOWARD
THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
WORK GROUP THAT ALLOWS THE
PRESIDENT TO HAVE THE DISCUSS
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE AN
ALTERNATE BASE ON THE COMMITTEE
COMPOSITION INCLUDING WHO THE
COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AND THE
NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS
SERVING ON EACH COMMITTEE.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO
ALLOW FOR THAT DISCRETION TO BE
EXERCISED BY THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
AS OPPOSED TO BEING MORE
PERSPECTIVE IN THIS INSTANCE,
BUT I DO THINK THAT EVEN IN THE
INSTANCE OF FOUR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS INCLUDED IN THE BASE
RESOLUTION.
YOU EITHER CHOOSE TO THE
COMPOSITION OF THE SIZE OF THE
COMMITTEE.
>> SORRY COUNCIL PRESIDENT I'M
NOT SURE WHERE THE BEST PLACE
TO INSERT THIS IS.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
I THINK FOUR MEMBERS OF A
COMMITTEE IS NOT BUENA IDEA.
I THINK THAT WOULD CONSTANTLY
LEAD TO HAVING A TIE.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS
AMENDMENT ASSUMING WE KEEP FIVE
MEMBERS OF THE, FIVE MEMBERS ON
A COMMITTEE.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING
MORE ABOUT THIS.
>> YEAH, I DO WANT TO SORT OF
GO BACK TO SORT OF THE
DISCUSSION AROUND HAVING FIVE
MEMBERS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE WERE AN ACTUAL
RECOMMENDATION OF ALL
COMMITTEES.
SO THAT THE FULL COUNCIL AND
NONCOMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO HAVE
THE BENEFIT OF AN ACTUAL
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONWE'VE
SEEN SOME INSTANCES IN WHICH
THERE IS A 2-2 DIVIDED FOLKS ON
THE COMMITTEE.
AND IN THOSE INSTANCES IT HAS
BEEN A STRUGGLE TO FOR
NONCOMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SORT OF
CATCH UP AND FIGURE OUT WHY
THERE'S SO MUCH DIVISION
AMONGST THE COMMITTEE AND SO,
YOU KNOW SORT OF JUST THINKING
THROUGH THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS
ON A COMMITTEE WAS SORT OF
ROOTED IN WANTING TO HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR A MAJORITY OF
THE CITY COUNCIL TO SIGNAL TO
THE FULL COUNCIL ITS SUPPORT OR
LACK OF SUPPORT FOR A
PARTICULAR LEGISLATIVE
PROPOSAL.
WHETHER IT WAS A RESOLUTION OR
AN ORDNANCE.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON.
JUST FOR BRINGING THISFORWARD.
I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY
SUPPORT IF WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS
IN A COMMITTEE.
SHORT AND SWEET.
>> ONE OF THE CHANGES UNDER
LINED IN THIS RESOLUTION SAYS A
COMMITTEE MEMBER MUST BE ABSENT
FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING FOR THE
ALTERNATE TO ATTEND AND HAVE
FULL VOTING RIGHTS.
SO THE ALTERNATE CAN STILL SIT
IN AND TAKE PART OF THE
DISCUSSION BUT THAT'S ONE
RELATED CHANGE THAT'S AN UNDER
LINED RESOLUTION.
>> THANK YOU.
DIRECTOR HANDY FOR BRINGING
THAT UP.
I THINK THE ISSUE WHERE THIS
COMES UP, YOU KNOW TO HEAD IS
AROUND SORT OF WHETHER YOU CAN
START A COMMITTEE MEETING OR
WHETHER ANY LOSE QUORUM.
THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS TO
COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES IN
TERMS OF THE ACTIONS THAT YOU
ARE TAKING.
SO, YEAH.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA GO
AHEAD.
>> THANKS COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I LOOK FOR YOU TO PROVIDE INTEL
TO CRAFT.
IF OUR HOPE IS TO HAVE A FIVE
MEMBER COMMITTEE.
THERE'S THE CHANCE THAT SOMEONE
IS POTENTIALLY SICK OR ON
LEAVE.
WE RUN THE RISK OF HAVING A
FOUR PERSON COMMITTEE AND A
VOTE OF 2-2. I'M ALSO HOPING TO
HAVE A FIVE MEMBER COMMITTEE
AND APPRECIATED THE I THINK THE
RATIONAL FOR THE AMENDMENT TO
BEGIN WITH.
NOW I'M A LITTLE BIT TORN
BECAUSE I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE NOT ENDING WITH A
DIVISIVE VOTE AS MUCH A
POSSIBLE.
>> AND THERE'S THOUGHTS ABOUT
THAT.
I HAD VERY MUCH APPRECIATED
WHERE THE SPONSORS ARE COMING
FROM AND REALLY INTERESTED IN
KEEPING THE ABILITY TO HAVE
FIVE PEOPLE THERE AND IF THAT
REQUIRES US TO HAVE AN
ALTERNATE.
THEN I'LL BE INTERESTED IN
HEARING WHAT OTHER FOLKS
THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT.
BECAUSE I CAN SEE THE BENEFIT
OF KEEPING AN ALTERNATE IF
THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS
PLEASE.
>> JUST SIGNALING COUNCIL
MEMBER MOSQUEDA RESONATING WITH
ME ABOUT THIS EXTENDED LEAVE.
SHARING.
GOT IT.
>> OKAY, SO FOLKS I THINK THERE
ARE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE.
THE FIRST OPTION IS TO
ACCEPTTHE AMENDMENT AS
PRESENTED.
WHICH WOULD ENTIRELY ELIMINATE
AN ALTERNATE REGARDLESS OF THE
NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON A
COMMITTEE.
OPTION TWO, IS TO MAKE AN
AMENDMENT TO AMENDMENT ONE.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE
ELIMINATION OF AN ALTERNATE
WOULD ONLY APPLY TO COMMITTEES
OF FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
OPENING UP THE QUESTION OF I
SUPPOSE THAT INSINUATES THERE
WOULD BE COMMITTEES OF LESS
THAN FIVE MEMBERS.
AND OPTION AND THEN OPTION
THREE OR I GUESS THERE WASN'T
AN OPTION THREE.
THOSE WERE THE TWO OPTIONS.
SO WE HAVE OPTION ONE.
VOTE ON AMENDMENT ONE AS
WRITTEN WHICH IS A COMPLETE
ELIMINATION OF ALTERNATES
REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE
COMMITTEE.
AND OPTION TWO, REQUIRING THAT
THE ELIMINATION OF ALTERNATES
IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO
COMMITTEES OF FIVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GIVEN THAT WE ARE AMENDMENT ONE
OF MANY AMENDMENTS I WILL GO
AHEAD AND SUGGEST COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSON.
I WAS INTENDING TO SUPPORT
THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T
WANT PEOPLE COMING IN
NECESSARILY AND HAVING HOW MUCH
OUR STAFF IS ALREADY STRETCHED
THIN ONMULTIPLE ISSUES THAT
COMMITTEE HAS TAKEN ON.
I SEE THE VALUE ON THAT.
AND TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE I'M
GOING TO BE, I WILL PROBABLY BE
A NO ON THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE
I STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THERE ARE FIVE PEOPLE.
IF THAT FIFTH MEMBER.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE
NO ON THIS AMENDMENT AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S STILL
WORK TO BE DONE.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S IN PART
ADDRESSED ALREADY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH I APPRECIATE
THAT.
>> OKAY JUST AS A REMINDER.
THE ONLY OTHER VOTING COUNCIL
MEMBERS ON THE LINE IS COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS AND COUNCIL
MEMBER JUAREZ.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE?
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS PLEASE.
>> JUST SIGNALING THE SAME
THING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA SAID COMING INTO THIS
MEETING.
I WILL NOT BE VOTING YES TODAY.
>> OKAY.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A
CHOICE HERE ABOUT POTENTIALLY
HAVING DIVIDED VOTES
REPEATEDLY.
AND OR YOU KNOW MANAGING PUBLIC
EXPECTATION AND STAFF TIME
AROUND THE DEPLOYED AS AN
ALTERNATE.
AND MONDAY I CAN HAVE ABOUT A
POTENTIAL LANGUAGE OR
OPPORTUNITY.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
ADVANCE NOTICE IF AN ALTERNATE
IS IN PLACE.
BUT I SORT OF REALLY AM HEARING
THAT THE ISSUE REALLY HERE IS
MUCH MORE ABOUT NOTICE, THAN
ANYTHING ELSE.
AND SO, AND SENSITIVE TO THAT
NEED AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN AND OTHERS TO
SEE IF SOMETHING RELATED TO
NOTICE IN NONEMERGENT
SITUATIONS MAY BE THE BETTER
PATH HERE.
AND WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR
ALTERNATES.
OKAY COLLEAGUES.
I'M GOING TO AHEAD AND CALL
THIS TO A VOTE BECAUSE WE'VE
HAD A CONVERSATION FOR SOME
TIME.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT ONE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> LEWIS.
>> NO.
>> MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> CHAIR GONZALEZ.
>> NO.
>> IT'S ONE APPROVING FOUR
OPPOSED.
THE MOTION FAILS THE AMENDMENT
IS NOT ADOPTED AND THE BILL IS
STILL BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
>> AMENDMENT TWO IS ALSO
AUTHORED.
WE WILL INVITE YOU TO SCROLL TO
THE NEXT PAGE.
AMENDMENT TWO WILL ALLOW
COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ABSTAIN
RESOLUTION TO THE FULL COUNCIL
EXCEPT FOR THOSE RESOLUTIONS
THAT ARE COMING FROM THE SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE.
UNDER THE CURRENT RULES
ABSTENTIONS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
THIS EXPANDS WHERE EXTENSIONS
ARE ALLOWED.
>> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
MOVE THIS AMENDMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN IS THE
AUTHOR OF AMENDMENT TWO.
AND I'M THE SPONSOR OF
AMENDMENTTWO.
SO I'M GOING TO MOVE TO AMEND
ON AMENDMENT TWO ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBER JUAREZ.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
MOVE AMENDMENT.
TWO.
I'M GOING TO HAND IT TO COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN TO ADDRESS THE
AMENDMENT AS THE AUTHOR OF SAID
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
COLLEAGUES I'VE ADVOCATED FOR
THIS OPTION PREVIOUSLY.
I THINK THE PAST TWO YEARS OF
REINFORCED RATIONAL TO HAVE
THIS AS AN OPTION TO ABSTAIN
NOT ON ORDNANCES OR BUDGETS BUT
RESOLUTIONS.
THIS BRINGS ROBERTS RULES OF
ORDERS WHERE EXTENSIONS ARE
ALLOWED IN ALL MEETSINGS.
EXTENSIONS ARE ALLOWED
INYAKAMA.
WHILE SOME MAY ARGUE THAT WE'RE
ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE'RE
HERE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND
ABSTAINING IS NOT A DECISION.
RESOLUTIONS CAN SOMETIMES STRAY
FROM OBLIGATIONS.
THE TIME THAT WE AND OUR TEAM
OUR CENTRAL STAFF HAVE SPENT
CRAFTING, AND DEBATING
RESOLUTION.
IT'S TIME SPENT AWAY FROM OTHER
ORDNANCES AND BUDGET MATTERS.
THE ABILITY TO ABSTAIN STILL
ABLE FOR A RESOLUTION TO
COMEFORWARD.
JUST GIVES AN OPTION TO THE
INDEPENDENTLY INDIVIDUALS TO
ABSTAIN.
I THINK THAT YOU KNOW FOR THOSE
WHO DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF
ABSTENTIONS THEY DON'T HAVE TO
ABSTAIN.
THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY AND
CHOICE OF AN INDEPENDENTLY
ELECTED OFFICIAL TO ABSTAIN.
AND THAT SHOULD HELP WITH
PRODUCTIVITY IF WE HAVE THIS
OPTION.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT TWO?
I'M
JUST GOING TO SCROLL THROUGH
HERE.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS ON
AMENDMENT THREE.
I HAVE GENERALLY SEEN THE
POSITION THAT YOU DESCRIBED IN
YOUR REMARKS THAT I DO THINK
THAT RESOLUTION OF ABSTAINING
AND GENERALLY TO SUPPORT THE
POSITION OF ALLOWING COUNCIL
MEMBERS TO ABSTAIN DURING FULL
COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE THAT
YOUR AMENDMENT HAS GOTTEN
NUANCED SINCE YOU AND I FIRST
TALKED ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL
PROPOSAL AND THAT YOU'RE NOW
PROPOSING TO ALLOW FOR
EXTENSIONS ONLY IN THOSE
INSTANCES IN WHICH THERE AREN'T
FISCAL IMPACTS.
I DID WANT TO ASK COUNCIL STAFF
ONE TECHNICAL QUESTION WHICH IS
THAT THE AMENDMENT REFER
SPECIFICALLY TO RESOLUTIONS
THAT COME TO THE COUNCIL WITH
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE.
AND THERE ARE OTHER AMENDMENTS
IN THE RESOLUTION ATTACHMENT
THAT MAKE A FINANCE COMMITTEE A
STANDING COMMITTEE.
AND SO I'M A LITTLE WORRIED
THAT BECAUSE NOW IT'S VERY,
VERY NARROW TO THE SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE THAT THERE MAY
BE RESOLUTIONS TO COME FROM THE
FINANCE RELATED COMMITTEE ON
FINANCE RELATED ISSUES THAT
WOULD NOT FALL UNDER THE
UMBRELLA OF THIS PARTICULAR
AMENDMENT AND COUNCIL RULE IF
AMENDED.
SO CAN YOU JUST WALK US THROUGH
OTHER ASPECTS OF THE COUNCIL
RULE RELATED TO THE SORT OF HOW
FINANCE COMMITTEE ISSUES ARE
DEALT WITH IN TERMS OF THE
STRUCTURE, OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
>> SURE, I'M HAPPY TO START AND
PASS IT TO YOU AGAIN.
WE CERTAINLY HAD DISCUSSION
ABOUT HOW TO CAPTURE THE IDEA
OF NONBUDGET RESOLUTIONS INTO
TECHNICAL LANGUAGE.
AND RECOGNIZE BUDGET WORK
HAPPENS IN BOTH.
THE RESOLUTION COME OUT OF
BUDGET COMMITTEE WHEN YOU'RE
STUDYING THE BUDGET FOR THE
NEXT YEAR.
IF THERE WAS A SENSE THAT WE
WERE GOING TO MISS THE
SIGNIFICANT BODY OF RESOLUTIONS
THERE.
DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN WITH
ANY MORE DETAIL ON YOUR
THINKING.
>> I THINK ON THE FINANCE
COMMITTEE I ACKNOWLEDGE OUR
FINANCE COMMITTEE ARE OFTEN
TIMES COUPLED WITH OTHER
ISSUES.
WHETHER IT'S HOUSING OR LABOR
STANDARD ISSUES OR OTHER KINDS
OF ISSUES SO I DON'T INTEND TO
MAKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS PART
OF THIS DISCUSSION.
BUT I WOULD HATE FOR THERE TO
BE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE
OF THE RESOLUTION FOR EXAMPLE
SU
SUPPLIMENTARY BUDGETS.
TO ABSTAIN WOULD BE
INAPPROPRIATE.
SO I'M INTERESTED IN, I HAVE
SOFTENED MY POSITION.
CONGRATULATIONS COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON.
I HAVE SOFTENED MY POSITION.
I WOULD LIKE TO CAPTURE THOSE
RESOLUTIONS THAT MAY COME FROM
BUDGET ORDNANCES THROUGH A
NONSELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE
PROCESS AND SO WOULD LIKE TO
SORT OF THINK THROUGH HOW TO
BETTER CAPTURE THAT INTENT.
SO THAT IT'S NOT ENTIRELY
RELATED TO BUDGET LEGISLATION.
THROUGH BUDGET PROCESS.
>> AND I THINK, I THINK IT
WOULD PROBABLY TAKE A LITTLE
BIT MORE WORK ON OUR BEHALF
THIS WEEK TO BE WORKSHOPPING
WITH YOU ALL TO DEFINE THE
BUDGET PROCESS.
TO SUPPORT THIS AND THEN WE CAN
TRY TO BRING A TECHNICAL
AMENDMENT THAT FURTHER NARROWS
OR YOU CAN HOLD THIS AND WE CAN
BRING A VERSION OF IT THAT
MAKES SOME OF THOSE CHANGES FOR
MONDAY.
>> GREAT.
GREAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
YOUR HAND IS RAISED, PLEASE.
>> WELL, THANK YOU COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN.
I WANT TO SUPPORT.
I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A FAIR
AMOUNT OF CITY BUSINESS THAT IS
RES LUTE THROUGH COUNCIL
BUSINESS THAT.
THE EXCEPTION SO IT WOULD BE
HOWEVER COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD
NOT BE ALLOW TO ABSTAIN FROM
COUNCIL VOTES ON RESOLUTIONS
THAT REFER TO CITY BUSINESS.
>> SO IF, A RESOLUTION IS
BEFORE US THAT IS REGARDING
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GERMANE
TO OUR DAILY DUTIES IN
BUSINESS.
THEN THE EXTENSION IS ALLOWED
HOWEVER IF THE RESOLUTION IS
REGARDING CITY BUSINESS AN
EXTENSION WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
>> THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS.
I THINK THAT'S GETTING TO THE
HEART OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO
ARTICULATE.
I JUST WANTED TO KEEP IT TO THE
FINEST ASPECTS AS THAT'S WHAT'S
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN WAS
SUGGESTING IN HIS AMENDMENT.
I AM GOING TO CALL ON COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN.
I'M GIVING YOU A CHANCE TO
LISTEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER
REACTION AND I WILL INVITE
YOUINTO THE DIALOGUE WITH MORE
THINKING HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD PLEASE.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I
WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO ECHO THE FEED
BACK THAT WE JUST HEARD FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
A RESOLUTION THAT PERTAIN TO
CITY BUSINESS THAT ARE YOU KNOW
FOCUSED ON THE COUNCIL'S
POSITION ON ITEMS THAT ARE
ASSIGNED TO OUR COMMITTEE.
I THINK THEY ARE STILL VERY
IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE
INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS
STAND ON THOSE.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT
COUNCIL PEDERSEN IS TRYING TO
CREATE SOME DISCRETION ON THE
ABILITY TO NOT VOTE ON
RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE UNRELATED
TO CITY BUSINESS AND I SUPPORT
THAT.
BUT DON'T WANT TO CAST THE NET
TOO WIDE WITH THAT DISCRETION.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT.
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, I WAS GOING TO
GANG UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD'S POINT.
WHEN WE'RE WORKSHOPPING, IF
THIS GETS PUT IN A REQUEST FOR
STAFF TO WORK WITH INTERESTED
PARTIES ON A PROPOSAL.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA
TO MAKE IT BE SOME DECIDER
ABOUT WHICH RESOLUTIONS FALL
INTO THE CAMP OF BEING
ACCEPTABLE FOR EXTENSIONS. MEET
SOME OTHER BUDGET EXCEPTIONS AT
TIME OF REFERRAL OR AT A LATER
DATE.
I THINK THERE WOULD NEED TO BE
SOME DECIDER WHETHER A
RESOLUTION MEETS THE CRITERIA
OR DOESN'T IN ORDER TO SET THE
STAGE FOR VOTE AT FULL COUNCIL.
>> DAN, YOU'RE READING MY MIND.
WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR TOO
LONG OR JUST ENOUGH
APPARENTLY.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
THE PHRASE CITY BUSINESS IS IN
THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER IN
TERMS OF HOW TO DEFINE IT.
SO I DO THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO
MAKE A CALL ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT SOMEONE WILL MAKE THE CALL.
IT WOULD TRIGGER THIS PROVISION
OF THE COUNCIL RULE TO ALLOW
INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
EXERCISE YOUR DISCRETION OF
EITHER VOTING FOR, AGAINST OR
ABSTAINING ON THAT RESOLUTION.
SO I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT,
WELL FIRST OF ALL BEFORE I
MAKEA SUGGESTION.
I WILL FULFILL MY COMMITMENT
AND CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
THE INTENT OF CITY BUSINESS OR
NOT THAT WAS ACTUALLY YOU KNOW
THOUGHT OF AND WE BRANDED THE
SAME PROBLEM.
HOW DID WE DECIDE IT.
THAT PUTS A BIG BURDEN ON THE
COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND THERE'STHE ARGUMENT ABOUT
WHAT'S CITY BUSINESS.
THAT'S HOW WE NARROW IT DOWN TO
THE BUDGET.
I WOULD BE VERY OPEN TO THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE AND FINANCE
COMMITTEE.
AND WE COULD TRY IT OUT.
AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW THESE RULES
ARE AN ART AND WE PUT THEM IN
PRACTICE AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
THE EXTENSION IS REALLY ON THE
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSTAINING.
IF SOMEONE IS UPSET.
HEY THEY SHOULD MAKE A
DECISION.
IT'S COUNCIL MEMBERS ORDER.
INTERNATIONAL LAW THAT HAS SOME
CITY BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED
ABOUT.
I'M TRYING TO SOLVE FOR TO NOT
BURDEN NINE COUNCIL STAFF AND %
COUNCIL STAFF.
MAY BE IN THE FORM OF A
RESOLUTION THAT'S NOT
BUDGETARY.
WOULD BE VERY OPEN TO ADDING T
COUNCIL AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
>> I THINK WORKSHOPPING OR
CREATING A DECIDER CAN
POTENTIALLY BE COMPLICATED.
SO I AM GOING TO SUGGEST, I'M
SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS
GO AHEAD BEFORE I SUGGEST A
POTENTIAL PATH FORWARD.
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME
JUST KEEP PIPING IN WE MY
THOUGHTS AS WE'RE IN AN E LIT
AN LIT ERATIVE MOMENT.
I WOULD SUGGEST THE CITY CLERK
BE THE DECIDER.
>> CITY CLERK.
OR ARE YOU SAYING THE CITY
PRESIDENT.
>> I AM HAPPY WITH BOTH.
>> WE USUALLY DON'T PUT THE
CITY CLERK.
IF YOU WANT A DECIDER I WOULD
LOOK AT A FRAME WORK THAT ALLOW
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO MAKE
THE DECISION.
THE REALITY IS THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT MAKES DECISIONS EVERY
WEEK ON WHAT GETS REFERRED.
WHAT DOESN'T GET REFERRED AND
WHERE IT GETS REFERRED.
SO THIS AGAIN, DOESN'T PREVENT
A RESOLUTION FROM MOVING
FORWARD.
IT SIMPLY OPENS UP THE DOOR TO
WHETHER OR NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER
WILL BE ABLE TO ABSTAIN.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE EFFECT
IS ADOPTING TO IS JUST ALLOWING
FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE
EXERCISED.
FOR THE SAKE OF KEEPING THE
BALL MOVING HERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE A
VOTE ON AMENDMENT TWO.
AND THAT WE IN THE NEXT DAY OR
TWO WORK TO CREATE THE
AMENDMENT LANGUAGE THAT WILL BE
ACCEPTABLE AND YOU KNOW I
THINK, I AM INCLINED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LANGUAGE
THAT WOULD EITHER ALLOW FOR AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF LOOK AT
SORT OF CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS
S DETERMINED BY THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
WHICH AND I THINK IT'S ALSO
IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE
LANGUAGE THAT MAKES SENSE ABOUT
YOUR BUDGET RELATED LEGISLATION
THAT COMES FROM THE FINANCE OR
SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEES.
IN EITHER INSTANCES I WILL FLAG
THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE PUT IN
THE SITUATION OF MAKING THE
CALL.
AS TO WHETHER SOMETHING IS
BUDGET RELATED.
IF STAFF CAN PUT A LITTLE MORE
THINKING INTO THOSE POTENTIAL
OPPORTUNITIES.
I WOULD REALLY GREATLY
APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK
THAT FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES I
WOULD LIKE US TO ADVANCE THIS
AMENDMENT OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH
THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE
WILL LIKELY BE SOME ADDITIONAL
MODIFICATIONS.
DOES THAT SOUND ACCEPTABLE TO
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE..
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> WERE YOU ENCOURAGING COUNCIL
MEMBERS TO TAKE A YES VOTE ON
THIS ITEM?
>> I'M ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO
TAKE A YES VOTE ON THIS ITEM
FOR PURPOSES OF ADVANCING IT
OUT OF COMMITTEE.
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE
THE BASE BY EITHER HAVING ONE
OF THE TWO OPTIONS THAT I JUST
REFERRED TO.
>> COULD THE CLERK PLEASE
SCROLL UP, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO CORRECT.
>> CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
MA'AM PRESIDENT, I'M HAPPY TO
MOVE THIS AMENDMENT.
I THINK IT'S OUR JOB THAT WE
HAVE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTING
ON PIECES OF LEGISLATION
REGARDLESS OF COMMITTEE AND THE
IMPACT.
I WILL VOTE YES, I WAS PREPARED
TO VOTE NO EVERYONE AS IT
RELATES TO RESOLUTION I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS
TAKING A FINAL VOTE ON THE
FINAL COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEETING
BUT I WILL VOTE YES ON THE
REQUEST TODAY AND LOOK FORWARD
TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA.
AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COUNCIL
MEMBERS WHO MIGHT DISAGREE WITH
PUTTING THIS IN THE BASE.
THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO PULL IT
OUT ON MONDAY.
IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
ANYONE INTENDS TO DO I WOULD
ASK THAT YOU CONTACT OUR OFFICE
RIGHT AWAY SO THAT WE CAN WORK
WITH COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF AND
THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON
MANAGING THOSE LOGISTICS.
OKAY ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE, SORRY GO
AHEAD.
COUNCIL MEMBER.
>> JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND,
SO WE'RE NOT AMENDING THIS AT
ALL JUST GO FOR TWO RESOLUTIONS
FOR EXAMPLE.
THIS WOULD BE ON ITEMS THAT
HAVE COME TO US THAT DON'T HAVE
AN IMPLICATION FROM THE BUDGET,
OKAY GO AHEAD IF YOU CAN REPEAT
FOR ME.
>> AMENDMENT TWO IN ITS BASE
FORM IS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
AMENDMENT TWO IS STRICTLY
LIMITED TO RESOLUTIONS ONLY.
>> I APOLOGIZE.
I MISUNDERSTOOD.
I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
JUST RESOLUTIONS.
>> OKAY WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON THE ADOPTION
OF AMENDMENT TWO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> THAT'S FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE
OPPOSED.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
OKAY, WE HAVE AMENDMENT THREE
NOW.
I WILL, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO
DIRECTOR HANDY TO BRIEF US ON
AMENDMENT THREE.
I'M MOVING TOO QUICKLY HERE.
GO AHEAD.
>> NO PROBLEM.
AMENDMENT THREE IS COAUTHORED
BY COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN AND
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
I AM CHARACTERIZING THIS AS A
TECHNICAL CORRECTION AND SO
INVITE YOU, IT'S A LITTLE BIT
COMPLICATED BUT INVITE YOU TO
ADDRESS IT WITH THAT AMOUNT OF
TIME AND ATTENTION.
EACH OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS
IDENTIFIED THIS ISSUE IN THE
UNDERLYING RESOLUTION IN A
DIFFERENT WAY.
SO WE ACTUALLY MIGHT BE HELPFUL
IF YOU SCROLL UP JUST SO WE CAN
SEE THE LANGUAGE THAT IS
ACTUALLY CHANGED.
YEAH RIGHT THERE.
JUST DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE SO
WE SEE THREE THERE.
SO THE UNDERLYING SORRY IN OUR
LAST COMMITTEE MEETING WE
TALKED ABOUT THE TEMPORAL
NATURE OF INTRODUCING
LEGISLATION.
WHEN THAT LEGISLATION IS IN
COMMITTEE ONLY MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MAY OFFER AMENDMENTS
TO THAT LEGISLATION.
AND AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION
WAS CLARIFYING THAT INTENT.
AND THEN AT FULL COUNCIL ANY
COUNCIL MEMBER CAN COSPONSOR.
THERE WAS CONFUSION, WHAT DOES
IT MEAN TO COUNCIL LEGISLATION
AFTER INTRODUCTION.
TO CLARIFY THAT CONFUSION WE
ARE STRIKING OUT LEGISLATION
HERE IN THREE.
THE CHANGE HERE INDICATES THAT
COUNCIL MEMBERS ON A COMMITTEE
MAY SPONSOR AMENDMENTS BEEN THE
COMMITTEE OUR TECH HERE AGAIN
IS A TECHNICAL CLEAN UP OF THIS
LANGUAGE.
>> GREAT THANK YOU SO MUCH
DIRECTOR HANDY.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD ON THE
DISCUSSION.
I WILL MOVE AMENDMENT 32029 AS
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT THREE.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH IT'S BEEN
MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT
AMENDMENT THREE AS PRESENTED ON
THE AGENDA.
I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU FOR READING MY
BODY LANGUAGE. AND IT'S A ANY
TECHNICAL AND ELIMINATING THE
CONFUSING REFERENCE THAT HAS
ALREADY BEEN REFERRED TO
COMMITTEE THE INTENT OF THE
LANGUAGE AND IS ONE READING OF
IT.
AND THIS AMENDMENT CLARIFIES
THAT.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
ANYTHING TO ADD COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSON.
NOTHING TOAND STRAGLER WORD
THERE THAT NEEDED TO BE STRIKED
TO CLEAR THE INTENT.
BUT ANY COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT
THREE.
I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED SO
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
CALL THE ROLL.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON AMENDMENT THREE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> OKAY AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA
YOU'RE NOT ON MUTE.
>> OH, EXCUSE ME.
I'M SORRY..
CHAIR THE MOTION CARRIES THE
AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
AND WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE
NEXT AMENDMENT.
>> THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS NUMBER
TEN.
I WILL SAY THE NEXT THREE
AMENDMENTS ADDRESS THE
SPONSORSHIP OF LEGISLATION IN
SOME WAY, THE NUMBER IS THE
NUMBER IN WHICH WE DRAFTED THEM
BUT WE PRESENTED THEM OUT OF
ORDER.
THESE NEXT THREE ARE IN
CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER.
SO AMENDMENT TEN IS AUTHORED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT
DOES NOT HAVE A SPONSOR MAYBE
INTRODUCED AS EITHER
EXECUTIVEREQUESTED OR
DEPARTMENT REQUESTED
LEGISLATION.
YOU MAY RECALL FROM OUR
DISCUSSION LAST WEEK THAT THE
UNDERLYING RESOLUTION MADE A
CHANGE TO CLARIFY THE COUNCIL'S
CURRENT PRACTICE THAT A BILL
MAY BE INTRODUCED WITHOUT A
SPONSOR.
THIS WOULD FURTHER AMEND THAT
CHANGE AS DESCRIBED SO THAT IF
IT DID NOT HAVE A COUNCIL
MEMBER SPONSOR THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT COULD ASSIGN
EXECUTIVE REQUEST OR A PERMIT
REQUESTED TO THAT LEGISLATION.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH
DIRECTOR HANDY.
THIS ONE IS SPONSORED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS TO MAKE HIS
MOTION.
>> THIS IS PER OUR CONVERSATION
LAST WEEK.
I TOOK TIME TO FURTHER REFINE
WHAT I MEANT AS CITY BUSINESS
ETC.
YOU WILL SEE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
I'M TO INTERRUPT BUT YOU HAVE
TO MAKE YOUR MOTION FIRST.
>> I MOVE AMENDMENT TEN, AS
DESCRIBED.
>> IS THERE A SECOND.
>> OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH IT
HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
SORRY FOR BEING SUCH A STICKLER
ON THE RULES DURING A RULES
CONVERSATION HERE.
HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT AMENDMENT TEN AS
PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO
ADDRESS YOUR AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU TO
ALL THE CITY CLERKS.
IF WHAT YOU WILL SEE WITH THIS
AMENDMENT AS WELL AS AMENDMENT
15.
AND THE STATE LEGISLATURES THAT
I'VE WORKED WITH, I'VE WORKED
AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE FOR FOUR
YEARS AND I'VE WORKED AT THE
STATE LEGISLATURE FOR SIX YEARS
I BELIEVE.
NOT COUNTING DOESN'T MATTER.
THE INTENT OF THIS AMENDMENT IS
SO THAT WE NEVER HAVE
LEGISLATION THAT COMES OUT OF
THIN AIR.
THAT WE CAN TRACK TO WHERE IT
ORIGINATED ON.
THERE'S SOMETIMES LEGISLATION
THAT IS IN THE NEED FOR GOOD
GOVERNANCE.
SO THIS LEGISLATION WOULD MAKE
SURE THERE'S STILL A NAME
ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEGISLATION
AND FREEZE THE COUNCIL TO
OPPOSE OR SUPPORT THE
LEGISLATION BASED ON IT MERITS.
THIS IS THE PRACTICE IN
OLYMPIA.
OFTENTIMES LEGISLATION IS
SUBMITTED THAT DOES NOT HAVE A
SPONSOR OR COSPONSOR RATHER IT
IS DEPARTMENT REQUESTED SO
FOLLOWING THAT PRACTICE THIS IS
MY MEMO.
>> GREAT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCIL HERBOLD, THANK YOU
PLEASE.
>> WE HEARD FROM THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS.
IS THAT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.
WAS NECESSARY.
DO YOU FEEL THAT WITH
ADDITIONAL HRAPBLG
LANGUAGE WILL HELP TO MAYBE NOT
ENSURE BUT TO FACILITATE A GOAL
OF MINIMIZING THE NUMBER OF
TIMES THAT BILLS ARE REFERRED
WITHOUT A SPECIFIC SPONSOR.
>> YES I DID HEAR THAT
TESTIMONY.
AND THAT'S A GOOD ADD.
I HAVE IT IN MY NOTES.
THIS IS THE EXCEPTION NOT THE
RULE.
I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE
LANGUAGE PREPARED FOR THAT BUT
IT'S WELCOMED.
>> IN SORT OF RESPONSE TO THAT
PARTICULAR COMMENTARY.
I WANT TO MAKE PART OF THE
RECORD THE REALITY THAT IT IS
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
CURRENT POSITION IS THE
CHARTERS AND MUNICIPAL CODE
DOES ALLOW FOR BILLS TO BE
INTRODUCED WITHOUT A SPONSOR.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASONS
WHY WE INCLUDED THE LANGUAGE IN
RESOLUTION IS TO SIMPLY
MEMORIALIZE THAT EXISTING
AUTHORITY WITHIN THE CHARTER
AND RELEVANT SREPBS.
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE.
SO,, RELEVANCE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE
IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE SOME HOW
CREATING A NEW RITE IN TERMS OF
THE ISSUE OF LISTING
LEGISLATION WITH A NO SPONSOR
REQUIRED.
THAT BEING SAID, I DO
UNDERSTANDCOUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS'S INTENT WHICH IS TO
CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL
TRANSPARENCY FOR MEMBERS OF THE
VIEWING PUBLIC AS TO THE
GENESIS OF THE LEGISLATION IF
IT'S NOT COMING FROM A
SPECIFIC, FROM A SPECIFIC
COUNCIL MEMBER ARGUABLY IT HAS
BEEN A LITTLE ODD TO HAVE
LEGISLATION LISTED ON THE
INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL WITH
NO COUNCIL REQUIRED AND IT DOES
IN PRACTICE PRESENT A SITUATION
IN WHICH ITS UNCLEAR WHICH
COUNCIL MEMBER IS GOING TO
SPEAK ON A RESOLUTION.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE LAST
POINT HAVING IT LISTED IS,
EXECUTIVE OR DEPARTMENT
REQUESTED.
BUT DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
I APPRECIATE WHERE THE BILL IS
COMING FROM IF IT ISN'T COMING
FROM
FROM. QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
I'M NOT HEARING ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR HEARING ANY
OTHERITEMS RAISED SO WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE RULE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> LEWIS.
>> AYE.
>> MOSQUEDA.
>> AYE.
>> STRAUSS.
>> AYE.
>> MAYOR GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE MOTION CARRIES THE
AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED THE NAME
OF THE BILL IS BEFORE THE
COUNCIL.
AMENDMENT NUMBER 11.
TAKE IT AWAY DIRECTOR HANDY.
>> ESTABLISHED THE EXPECTATION
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
AND REFERRAL CALENDAR.
THAT HAVE SUBJECT MATTER.
FROM OUR REPEAT DISCUSSION LAST
WEEK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
CURRENTLY THAT IS THE PRACTICE
AND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD
CLARIFY THAT PRACTICE IN
COUNCIL RULES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH DIRECTOR
HANDY.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE
THIS AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR
DISCUSSION.
I MOVE TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION
32029 AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT
11 ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH APPRECIATE
THAT.
BEGUN THIS HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT AMENDMENT 11
AS PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA.
I AM GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD WHO IS A
DESIGNATED AUTHOR OF THE
AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS
IT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
REALLY APPRECIATE AGAIN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE.
APPRECIATE THE UNDERSTANDING
THAT THIS IS IN FACT, THE
CURRENT PRACTICE.
I DO FEEL THAT THERE IS A REAL
VALUE OF BEING ABLE TO
DEMONSTRATE TO THE PUBLIC THATS
THAT THE PROCESS.
I REMEMBER A CONSTITUENT
RESPONSE TO CONSTITUENTS WHO
WERE UNHAPPY THAT THE COUNCIL
HAD NOT INTRODUCED A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION.
AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE
REFERENCE THAT NO IT'S ACTUALLY
PART OF THE JOB OF THE COUNCIL
MEMBER TO CONFER WITH THE
COMMITTEE CHAIR BEFORE DECIDING
TO CIRCUMVENT A COMMITTEE.
I AM HAPPY TO MEMORIALIZE THAT
TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC
UNDERSTANDS THE DECISION MAKE
OF THE COUNCIL.
THIS WOULD SET AN ACCOMPLISH AN
ANNUAL WORK AGENDA BY
CLARIFYING THAT THE EXPECTATION
IS THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
REFER TO THE CHAIR AND
LEGISLATION BEFORE PUTTING IT
ON THE ARC.
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
THIS DOES NOT LIMIT THE ABILITY
TO MAKE AN INDEPENDENT DECISION
ABOUT THE ARC AND THE
COSPONSORING COUNCIL MEMBER CAN
STILL REQUEST IT TO SEND IT TO
THE ARC.
AND THIS
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD I
HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
IF A COMMITTEE CHAIR SETS
DEADLINES.
I HAD AN OCCASION WHEN COUNCIL
MEMBERS WERE NOT HAPPY AND THE
COMMITTEE CHAIR HAD A DEADLINE
I DIDN'T MEET BUT NOW I WANT TO
DO IT.
WOULD THAT REMEDY THIS.
>> SO THIS IS I THINK FOCUS ON
A PARTICULAR SUBJECT AS IT
RELATES TO THE DECISION TO
REFER LEGISLATION.
TO EITHER A COMMITTEE OR A
DIRECT TO FULL COUNCIL.
SPECIFIC TO THE IRC PROCESS NOT
AMENDMENTS.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, AND THEN, DIRECTOR
HANDY OR CITY CLERK STAFF, CAN
YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF THE
COUNCIL RULES THAT DOES ADDRESS
THE ISSUE RAISED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I KNOW IF YOU POINT BACK, IF
YOU HAVE THE RULES OPEN AND
AVAILABLE, LIZ CAN YOU REVIEW
THAT?
>> SO THIS IS THE ASPECT,
COUNCIL MEMBER ABILITY TO
STRUCTURE.
>> I WILL GET THAT AND GET BACK
TO YOU BRIEFLY.
>> NO WORRIES.
I JUST WANT TO SAY
MYUNDERSTANDING OF THE COUNCIL
RULE BEING ON THE COUNCIL FOR
THE LAST SIX YEARS, THERE'S A
SEPARATE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO
BRING AMENDMENTS FORWARD UP TO
NOON OF THE DAY OF OUR CITY
COUNCIL MEETINGS WHICH IS
CURRENTLY MONDAY.
SO LONG AS ITS CIRCULATED BY
THEN THEN YOU ARE ABLE TO BRING
THAT FORWARD SO IN ORDER TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE, RAISED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ, WHERE A
CHAIR IMPOSES A DEADLINE FOR
AMENDMENTS THERE WOULD NEED TO
BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE COUNCIL
RULES.
THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AN
AMENDMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR A
CHAIR TO IMPOSE A DEADLINE AND
FOR THERE NOT TO BE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR A COUNCIL
MEMBER TO CIRCUMVENT THAT
DEADLINE.
BUT I'M LOOKING TO, IF COUNCIL
CITY STAFF OFFICE TO CLARIFY MY
UNDERSTANDING OF THE RULES.
>> CERTAINLY, I CAN CHIME IN
HERE ON THE RULE ITSELF
REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO BILLS
AND RESOLUTIONS.
IT STATES THAT THEY SHALL NOT
BE PRESENTED AT A CITY COUNCIL
MEETING UNLESS PREVIOUSLY
REVIEWED BY THE LAW DEPARTMENT
AND CIRCULATED THE E-MAIL TO
ALL CM THE CENTRAL STAFF
DIRECTOR AND CITY CLERK AT
LEAST TWO HOURS BEFORE THE
MEETING.
IN CASES INCLUDING BUT NOT
LIMITED TO AMENDMENTS
TOREGULATIONS A STATUTE MAY
REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
NOTICE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE AN
AMENDED BILL MAY BE PASSED.
THAT'S THE CURRENT RULE FOR
AMENDMENTS TO BE PRESENTED AT A
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
ARE YOU SEEKING ANY ADDITION
RULES THAT APPLY SPECIFICALLY
TO AMENDMENTS AT COMMITTEE
MEETINGS?
>> MA'AM CHAIR, MAY I.
>> SURE GO AHEAD.
>> NO I'M GOOD.
I UNDERSTAND IT.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT PART OF THE
RULE.
I'M READY TO VOTE.
THANK YOU.
>> NO WORRIES COUNCIL MEMBER
JUAREZ.
I REALLY THINK THAT SOME OF US
HAVE REALLY EXERCISED THE
PRACTICES CHAIRS OF SETTING
DEADLINES FOR WORK FLOW
MANAGEMENT.
I THINK FOR THE MOST PART WE
SEE A HIGH COMPLIANCE RATE.
BUT I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE
PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU'RE
BRINGING THAT SOMETIMES THAT IS
NOT THE CASE AND IT COULD BE
FRUSTRATING AND SOME WHAT
UNPREDICTABLE.
SO CERTAINLY HEAR THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON
AMENDMENT 11?
I'M NOT HEARING ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT 11.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON THE
ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT 11.
>> JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> LEWIS.
>> AYE.
>> MOSQUEDA.
>> AYE.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> THAT'S FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE
OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES THE
AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
OKAY, AMENDMENT 19.
DIRECTOR HANDY.
>> AMENDMENT 19 IS ALSO
AUTHORED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD AND IS ONE WE ARE
CHARACTERIZING AS A TECHNICAL
AMENDMENT.
THE UNDER LINING RESOLUTION.
ADDS LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY THE
NUMBER OF SPONSORS THAT ARE
ADDED TO A PIECE OF LEGISLATION
PREINTRODUCTION AND OUTSIDE OF
OPEN SESSION SHALL NOT MEET OR
EXCEED A QUORUM.
THE LANGUAGE SORRY IN THE
UNDERLYING RESOLUTION SAID
THAT, READ MEET A QUORUM AND TO
BE COMPLIANT WITH THE OPEN
MEETINGS SHALL MEET OR EXCEED.
AN EXAMPLE WITH THIS AMENDMENT
A FIVE MEMBER COMMITTEE THAT
HAS A QUORUM OF THREE COULD
HAVE UP TO TWO SPONSORS ON
ADDED TO THE LEGISLATION PRIOR
TO INTRODUCTION.
IF ADDITIONAL SPONSORS ARE
ADDED THEY MUST BE ADDED AT
FULL COUNCIL.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH DIRECTOR
HANDY.
I MOVE TO AMEND RESOLUTION
32029 AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT
19 ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH IT'S BEEN
MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT
AMENDMENT 19 AS PRESENTED ON
THE AGENDA.
>> NOTHING TO ADD, IT'S
TECHNICAL.
THANKS FOR FLAGGING IT AT OUR
MEETING LAST WEEK.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT THAT CLOSE
EYE TO THESE DETAILS.
COLLEAGUES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
ON THIS TECHNICAL AMENDMENT?
>> HEARING NONE.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT 19.
>> JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> MOSQUEDA.
>> AYE.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> THAT'S FIVE IN FAVOR, MA'AM
CHAIR.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES, THE
AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED AND WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
AMENDMENT WHICH IS AMENDMENT
FOUR.
>> AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR
ADDRESSES COUNCIL BRIEFINGS.
IT IS THE FIRST IN A SERIES
ABOUT THE COUNCIL SCHEDULE.
AMENDMENT FOUR IS AUTHORED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN AND
JUAREZ.
IT WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER TO
CONDUCT REGULAR COUNCIL
BRIEFINGS.
THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN THE
RULES READS THAT COUNCIL SHALL
HOLD BRIEFINGS MEETINGS AND
INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT SAYS
THECOUNCIL BRIEFINGS MAY BE
CANCELED BY THE PRESIDENT AT
ANY TIME.
THIS AMENDMENT CHANGES THE
SHALL TO MAY LANGUAGE.
CLARIFYING THAT THE COUNCIL MAY
HOLD COUNCIL BRIEFINGS.
YOU CAN ADOPT THIS AND FUTURE
AMENDMENTS TOGETHER.
AND FINALLY JUST ONE PIECE ON
LOGISTICS.
IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE
WORKING GROUP THAT IF COUNCIL
BRIEFING BECOMES
MOREPERMISSIVE.
YOU ACCEPT THE MAY RATHER THAN
SHALL LANGUAGE.
AND IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO
HOLD REGULAR MEETINGS THAT THE
PRESIDENT SET ASIDE TIME FOR
IT.
THAT AVOIDS BURDENSOME LANGE
WAPBL.
IF YOU ACCEPT THE MAY LANGUAGE
HERE THE
>> OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET
THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE US SO WE
CAN HAVE A
CONVERSATION.COUNCILMEMBER
DEBORA JUAREZ, ARE YOU PREPARED
TO MAKE THE MOTION HERE?
>> LET ME GRAB MY -- YES.
I AM NOW SCRAMBLING WITH WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS WAS
DOING.
I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
CONSIDER TRYING TO FIND IT
HERE.
AS IT AMENDMENTS NUMBER FOUR?
>> THAT IS RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AMENDING AMENDMENT 0320 NINE
AS AMENDMENT FOUR ON THE
AGENDA, IS THERE A SECOND?
>> CAN I SECOND MY MOTION?
>> I WILL SECOND IT FOR YOU.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT AMENDMENT
FOUR AS SECOND HITÃTHAT WOULD
BE QUITE THE ROLE.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAND
IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ.
DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS IT
FIRST?
>> I WILL ADDRESS IT BRIEFLY
AND TAKE THE FOUR.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
AND THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HANDY
AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WORKED
ON THIS.
ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES THAT
WANTED TO PUSH THIS FORWARD, IT
HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE FACT
THAT WE ARE NOW VIRTUAL.
AND THE STRAIN AND EXHAUSTION
OF PEOPLE, THEIR MENTAL AND
PHYSICAL HEALTH, AND SCREEN
TIME SOMETIMES WE ARE LOOKING
AT A SCREEN UP TO 7-8 HOURS PER
DAY IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS IN NOT
JUST SEATTLE, BUT OF COURSE
REGIONAL MEETINGS AND KING
COUNTY MEETINGS AND THEN
CONSTITUENT.
SO, FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO
CHANGE THE SHALL TO MESA THAT
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IT IS
MORE PERMISSIVE AND THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT MAY HAVE MORE
DISCRETION, BUT THAT WE ALSO
WORK WITH OUR PHENOMENAL STAFF
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THE
NOTICE PROCESS, BECAUSE I KNOW
THAT IS WHERE THE SCRAMBLE
COMES IN, MAKING SURE THERE IS
NOTICE.
AND USING THE BEST USE OF OUR
TIME, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A
SCREEN FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC
AND FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT, THANK
YOU.
>>> COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON,
ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
ADD?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
THANK YOU.
>>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
ON THIS AMENDMENT?
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, PLEASE.
ú>> THANK YOU IS MEMBER JUAREZ
I THINK THAT WE ARE CHANGING
MAY'S AND SHALL'S.
MY PREFERENCES THAT WE KEEP IT
AS A SHALL.
THAT IS A VERY -- COMING AT
THIS FROM THE SAME INTENTION
AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHERE
I'M STANDING.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
ON THIS ONE?
I DO PLAN TO SUPPORT THIS
PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.
I THINK IT REFLECTS THE INTENT
AND THE FLEX ABILITY AND
DISCRETION FOR THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT TO DO IT AND DOCUMENT
IT, BECAUSE AS OPPOSED TO JUST
LETTING IT LIVE BY INFERENCE IN
THE RULES OF SUSPENSION.
SO, I DO PLAN TO SUPPORT THIS
ONE AND AGAIN, WHETHER OR NOT
THIS PLAYS OUT IN PRACTICE IN
TERMS OF ACTUALLY CANCELING
COUNCIL BRIEFINGS IS ANOTHER
QUESTION BUT AT LEAST THERE IS
THE DISCRETION TO ALLOW FOR IT
TO OCCUR SHOULD THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, HIS CONSULTATION
WITH COUNCILMEMBERS, WOULD --
TO CANCEL.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
ALL RIGHT.
HEARING THEN, WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE IN THE
ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT FOUR?
>> JUAREZ?
>> AYE.
>> LEWIS?
>> AYE.
>> MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> STRAUSS?
>> NO.
>> THAT IS FOR IN FAVOR, ONE
OPPOSED.
>> THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED,
AND WE WILL NOW MOVE TO A
DISCUSSION ON A SUITE OF
AMENDMENTS.
THE NEXT THREE AMENDMENTS, SIX
A THROUGH 6B, AND 6C REPRESENT
THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR HOW
TO AMEND THE COUNCILS REGULARLY
SCHEDULED COUNCIL BRIEFINGS AND
CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
SINCE THEY ARE MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE ALTERNATIVES, WE CAN
ONLY ADOPT ONE OF THESE THREE
AMENDMENTS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, COLLEAGUES,
YOU HAVE THREE VENTURES TO
CONSIDER BEFORE YOU.
IT IS 1 TO 3. YOU CANNOT PICK
MORE THAN ONE.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU ARE
VOTING.
ALL OF THESE ARE MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE.
IF YOU PICK ADVENTURE ONE, THAT
IS YOUR ADVENTURE ASSUMING IT
PASSES.
SO, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL
BE DISCUSSING ALL THREE
AMENDMENTS AT THE SAME TIME,
BUT TAKE VOTES INDIVIDUALLY,
BUT WE WILL BE PUTTING ALL
THREE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE SO
THAT WE CAN HAVE A COLLECTIVE
CONVERSATION ABOUT POTENTIAL
OPTIONS FOR US AND THAT FOLKS
CAN HAVE A WELL-INFORMED
DECISION WHEN THEY ARE ASKED TO
VOTE.
OKAY.COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I'M
GOING TO CALL ON YOU TO MOVE
YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT, WHICH
IS SIX A.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT ELLIPSE
>> I'M SORRY, WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE A DISCUSSION SORRY.
DIRECTOR HANDY, SORRY ABOUT
THAT.
>> MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE
EXPLAINED THE THREE AMENDMENTS
AND I'M GOING TO PASS IT TO DAN
TO TVS UP.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT AGAIN.
I HAVE BEEN -- I FEEL LIKE JUST
LIVING WITH THESE AMENDMENTS
AND MOVING FASTER THAN WHAT I
SHOULD BE.
THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO PUT UP
THE OVERVIEW THAT SHOWS THE
STATUS QUO AND THE THREE
AMENDMENTS RELATED TO MEETING
SCHEDULES AS THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT MENTIONED, THERE ARE
THREE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
POSTED TO THE AGENDA.
AMENDMENTS 6A, 6B, AND 6C.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONE OF
THESE AMENDMENTS IS NOT GOING
TO PROCEED AND I HAVE ASKED FOR
CONFIRMATION FOR THE SPONSOR OF
6C PLEASE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, YOU
ARE THE SPONSOR OF THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENT 6C, SO I'M GOING TO
RECOMMEND THAT YOU INSERT THE
QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
YOU ARE CORRECT.
COLLEAGUES, I AM GOING TO BE
LIMITING YOUR ADVENTURECHOICES
TO TWO.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND REMOVE 6C
FROM THE DOCKET HERE TODAY,
JUSTÃJUST A QUICK FOLLOW-UP
ON THIS IN THE LAST MEETING I
HAD INDICATED INTEREST IN A
WEDNESDAY MEETING.
GIVEN THE DISCUSSIONS I WAS
INTERESTED IN A WEDNESDAY
MORNING MEETING, BUT ALSO IN
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CLERK TO
UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE
LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW THE
COMMITTEE MEETINGS MAY SORT OF
CREATE COMPOUNDING REQUIREMENTS
ON STAFF TIME, NOT JUST IN THE
CLERK'S OFFICE BUT I CAN
IMAGINE IN OUR OFFICES AS WELL
TO REDUCE THAT COMPLICATION.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND REMOVE 6C
AND LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING
MORE ABOUT THE OTHER TWO
OPTIONS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>>> GREAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA, I REALLY DO.
SO, WE WILL FOCUS THE
PRESENTATION FROM CENTRAL
STUFF IN THE DISCUSSION TO
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS SIX A AND
6B.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO ADVENTURE
CHOICES.
YOU CAN CHOOSE ONE BUT NOT
BOTH.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
SO, THIS MATRIX HAS A LOT OF
INFORMATION ON IT.
I THOUGHT TO CAPTURE ALL OF THE
MOVING PARTS THAT SHOW WHAT IS
IN THE, WHAT IS LABELED AS IN
THE FIRST COLUMN AS THE STATUS
QUO SITUATION, AND THAT IS JUST
WHAT IS IN THE RESOLUTION THAT
IS PUT FOR YOU BEFORE ANY
AMENDMENTS COME UP AND THEN THE
NEXT TWO COLUMNS LABELED AT THE
TOP SIX A AND 6B SHOW YOU HOW
THE AMENDMENT WOULD CHANGE THE
STATUS QUO.
SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL
FOR ME TO STAY AT THE HIGH
LEVEL AND THEN ADDRESS ANY
QUESTIONS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
THE CURRENT SITUATION REFLECTED
IN THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU
WOULD HAVE THE COUNCIL
BRIEFINGS HAPPEN AT 9:30 IN
THE MORNING ON MONDAYS AND THE
COUNCIL MEETINGS HAPPEN ON --
AT 2 PM ON MONDAYS.
AND THAT IS THE WAY THINGS
STAND TODAY.
THE AMENDMENT 68 WOULD CHANGE
THE BRIEFINGS MEETING SCHEDULED
FROM 9:30 A.M.
ON MONDAY TO 2 PM ON MONDAY AND
THAT IS THE SAME FOR 6B.
THERE IS NO CONFLICT BETWEEN
THE TWO AMENDMENTS WITH RESPECT
TO WIN THE BRIEFINGS HAPPEN ON
A REGULAR BASIS.
THE MAJOR CHANGE FROM THE
STATUS QUO BETWEEN SIX A AND 6B
IS WITH RESPECT TO REGULAR
COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THEY WOULD MOVE IN SIX A FROM 2
PM ON MONDAY UNTIL TUESDAY AT
9:30 IN THE MORNING.
IN 6B, COUNCIL MEETINGS WOULD
MOVE FROM MONDAY'S AT 2 PM TO
TUESDAYS AT 2 PM.
SO, IN BOTH CASES IT WOULD BE
MOVING FROM A MONDAY TO A
TUESDAY WITH THE DIFFERENCE
HERE THAT THE REGULAR MEETINGS
IN SIX THEY WOULD BE AT 9:30 IN
THE EVENING AS OPPOSED TO 2 PM.
THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THOSE AS
DESCRIBED IN THE NEXT THREE
ROWS, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE
IS WHEN MONDAY'S FALL ON A
LEGAL HOLIDAY, THERE IS A
ROLLING EFFECT THAT IS
ADDRESSED DIFFERENTLY IN SIX A
THAN THE 6B.
I WILL OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
WHEN MONDAY FALLS ON A HOLIDAY
THE MONDAY BRIEFINGS WOULD MOVE
TO A TUESDAY IN 6A.
THEY WOULD MOVE TO -- THEY
WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE TO MOVE
MONDAYS ARE PROPOSED TO BE --
I'M SORRY, TUESDAYS IN THE
MORNING ARE PROPOSED TO BE
COUNCIL MEETINGS.
SO, THAT MEANS THAT THE COUNCIL
MEETING WOULD ALSO HAVE TO
CHANGE IF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
AFTER THE COUNCIL BRIEFING.
SO, THERE IS A CHANGE FROM
BRIEFINGS GO FROM MONDAY TO
TUESDAY ON A LEGAL HOLIDAY THAT
FALLS ON A MONDAY, COUNCIL
MOVES FROM TUESDAY TO
WEDNESDAY.
AND THEN THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS
THAT WOULD NORMALLY HAPPEN ON
THOSE DAYS BOTH GET BUMPED TO
FRIDAY IN THE MORNING AND THE
AFTERNOON.
IN 6B, THERE IS A DIFFERENT
APPROACH FOR WHAT HAPPENS WITH
MONDAY HOLIDAYS.COUNCIL
BRIEFINGS WOULD BE CANCELED .
THERE ARE FIVE OR SIX OF THEM I
THINK THAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT
THE YEAR WHERE MONDAY IS A
LEGAL HOLIDAY OUTSIDE OF NORMAL
COUNCIL RECESS AT THE END OF
AUGUST AND DECEMBER . THOSE
FIVE OR SIX REGULARLY SCHEDULED
COUNCIL BRIEFINGS UNDER 6B
WOULD SIMPLY BE CANCELED.
THAT MEANS THAT THERE WERE NOT
NEED TO BE A CHANGE TO THE
TUESDAY COUNCIL MEETING.
IT COULD CONTINUE AS REGULARLY
PLANNED.
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I
WILL HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU,
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE INDICATIONS
FOR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN --
TUESDAY.
WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE
WEDNESDAY -- SEE IT HAS BEEN
WITHDRAWN.
BUT --
ALSO, I AM TALKING ABOUT BE
EIGHT, WHICH CALLS FOR THE
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO
COME TO COUNCIL TO BE
DISTRIBUTED AT LEAST TWO HOURS
BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING IF
IN 6A, THE CONSUL MEETING IS AT
9:30 IN THE MORNING, TWO HOURS
BEFORE THE START OF THE COUNCIL
MEETING AT 7:30 IN THE MORNING.
SO, SIX A UNDERSTANDS THAT
WOULD BE A VERY EARLY MEETING
AND PUSHES THE DEADLINE TO 5 PM
ON THE PRECEDING BUSINESS DAY
FOR ANY AMENDMENTS COMING TO
FULL COUNCIL MEETINGS.
>> THAT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION
THAT I PUSHED AT YOU.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH,
DAN.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
SO, NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO
HAVE A CONVERSATION.
I DO WANT TO GET THESE
AMENDMENTS BEFORE US.
I ASSUME THAT IS WHY YOU ARE
RAISING YOUR HAND SO I WILL
NOTE THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION
ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROPOSALS?
WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND ASK
YOUR QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
úSPREAD IT IS MORE OF A
STATEMENT.
UNLESS THERE IS ANOTHER
COUNCILMEMBER THAT IS VERY
INTERESTED IN SIX A I WILL GO
AHEAD AND WITHDRAW THAT AFTER
HEARING MORE FROM -- JUST NOW.
>> I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE IMPLICATION OF WITHDRAWING
A AND ONLY BEING LEFT WITH 6B.
AS I UNDERSTAND, THE
DESCRIPTION OF 6B, IT WOULD
NECESSITATE IN EVERY INSTANCE
WHERE THERE IS A MONDAY HOLIDAY
IN BRIEFINGS BEING CANCELED.
AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE OPTION
OF SCHEDULING IT AT ANOTHER
DAY.
>> VICE PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU
LIKE ME TO ADDRESS THAT?
>> YES, PLEASE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD,
YOU ARE CORRECT THAT REGULARLY
SCHEDULED MEETINGS WOULD BE
CANCELED DUE TO THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AND COUNCILMEMBERS
GENERALLY WISHING TO HOLD THE
COUNCIL BRIEFING DURING SUCH A
WEEK WHEN THERE IS A MONDAY
HOLIDAY.
I WOULD DEFER TO ELIZABETH
ATKINSON AND MONICA MARTINEZ TO
TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR
SCHEDULING A SPECIAL MEETING OF
THE COUNCIL BRIEFING.
THAT IS CERTAINLY A DISTINCT
POSSIBILITY THAT WOULD STILL
LIVE WITHIN THE COUNCIL RULES.
IT JUST WOULD NOT HAVE A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL
BRIEFINGS AUTOMATICALLY MOVED
TO ANOTHER DAY.
>> YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE
CHANGE HERE IS TO CREATE A
EXPECTATION THAT THE COUNCIL
BRIEFINGS WOULD BE CANCELED
UNLESS OTHERWISE DETERMINED,
PREDETERMINED BY THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT IN COORDINATION WITH
THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO
SCHEDULE THAT IN ORDER TO MEET
THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS,
I THINK THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY
GET PRETTY EARLY NOTIFICATION
ABOUT WHETHER YOU COULD EXPECT
THEY COUNCIL BRIEFING ON THOSE
WEEKS IN WHICH THEY ARE
SCHEDULED TO BE CANCELED
BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY.
BUT, WE WILL CALL ON ELIZABETH
OR MONICA TO PROVIDE MORE
DETAIL ON THAT.
>> DO YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS
THAT WITH THE -- CLERKS?
>> SURE.
I WOULD ADVISE EXACTLY WHAT WAS
CONTEMPLATED IS THAT THE
COUNCIL RULES SAID THE REGULAR
SCHEDULE, SO THIS WOULD SET A
REGULAR SCHEDULE OR THOSE
MONDAY COUNCIL BRIEFINGS THAT
FALL ON A MONDAY HOLIDAY IT
WOULD BE CANCELED, AND THAT
WOULD BE THE REGULAR SCHEDULE,
AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO SCHEDULE A
SPECIAL COUNCIL BRIEFING AS
NEEDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL
OF THE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS OF
THE PMA WHEN IT IS DESIRED FOR
THE POST PACIFIC WEEKS.
SO, I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY IN
ALIGNMENT WITH THE OTHER
INFORMATION PROVIDED.
SO AGAIN, WE ARE SETTING
REGULAR SCHEDULE, BUT IT NEVER
PRECLUDES A SPECIAL MEETING
FROM BEING NOTICED.
I WOULD SAY THOUGH THEN, THE
DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU NOTICE A
SPECIAL MEETING, THE AGENDA IS
SET AND THE AGENDA CANNOT BE
MODIFIED AT THE TIME OF THE
SPECIAL MEETING, SO THAT WOULD
BE ONE DIFFERENCE THERE WHEN
YOU HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING OF
THE COUNCIL FOR A COUNCIL
BRIEFING, IS THAT NOTHING COULD
BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA AT THE
TIME OF THE MEETING SUCH AS AN
ADDITIONAL EXECUTIVE SESSION,
ETC.
>> GO AHEAD PLEASE.
>> THE RULES -- SCHEDULING A
SPECIAL COUNCIL BRIEFING
MEETING YOU MARK I AM
WONDERING WHERE THIS UNDER THE
SKIN, IS THERE TIME LEFT ON A
FOUR DAY CALENDAR TO DO THAT?
THE 6A, UNDER THAT SCHEME,
THERE IS AN AVAILABLE TIME
SLOT.
I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I HAVE NOT
DONE THIS, THIS HELPFUL
EXERCISE THAT I KNOW YOU ALL
HAVE DONE.
IS THERE A TIMESLOT THAT IS
AVAILABLE UNDER 6B SHOULD IT BE
NECESSARY TO SCHEDULE A COUNCIL
BRIEFING AS A SPECIAL MEETING?
>> IF IT IS ALL RIGHT I WILL GO
AHEAD AND TRY TO SPEAK TO THAT
AS WELL.
SO, THAT WOULD ALSO THEN KIND
OF DETERMINE OR BE DETERMINED
BY THE COMMITTEE MEETING
SCHEDULED FOR THAT PARTICULAR
WEEK AS YOU ARE AWARE, THAT OUR
NEXT BIENNIAL SCHEDULE FOR
COMMITTEES WILL BE SET IN
JANUARY 2022 AND THEN WE WILL
KNOW FOR SURE WHEN OUR STANDING
COMMITTEE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN
SET.
I WOULD SAY AT THIS TIME WE DO
NOT KNOW FOR SURE.
WE DO KNOW WHEN THE MONDAY
HOLIDAYS WHITAKER FOR THE NEXT
TWO YEARS, THOSE ARE WELL SET.
SO, WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE
SEVEN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS
BECAUSE OF ALL THE FEDERAL
HOLIDAYS THAT WE DO OBSERVE.
THEREFORE, THAT WOULD BE SEVEN
COUNCIL BRIEFINGS EQUITY THE
COUNCIL, SUCH AS AFTER THE
MARTIN LUTHER KING HOLIDAY IN
JANUARY, OR THE PRESIDENTS' DAY
HOLIDAY IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN
YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY BE
LOOKING AT THOSE WEEKS,
DEPENDENT ON A COMMITTEE
SCHEDULE OF WHEN YOU COULD FIT
IT IN.
TWO WHATEVER HAS BEEN
DETERMINED AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE YEAR.
SO, NOT A STRAIGHT ANSWER, BUT
AT LEAST MORE INFORMATION ON
HOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TRY TO
FIT THAT IN.
>> IF IT IS OKAY I WOULD LIKE
TO CHIME IN AS WELL.
THE CURRENT PRACTICE, ASIDE
FROM THE RULES THAT HAVE BEEN
INTRODUCED AT THIS POINT, THE
CURRENT PRACTICE OF A HOLIDAY
THAT HAS BEEN MOVED TO TUESDAY.
THAT ANY COMMITTEE MEETINGS
THAT WERE REGULARLY SCHEDULED
ON TUESDAY HAVE BEEN MOVED TO
FRIDAY.
SO I DO THINK THAT IS ANOTHER
AVENUE THAT IF COUNCIL NUMBERS
ARE PARTIAL TO, WE COULD ÃI
DON'T WANT TO WORK IT UP ON ANY
SPECIFIC WHICH ON THE FLY, BUT
I COULD WORK WITH
COUNCILMEMBERS BEHIND THE
SCENES FOR A FURTHER AMENDMENT.
>> THANKS, DAN FOR THAT.
I AM NOT SURE THAT WE NEED A
FURTHER AMENDMENT HERE TO
CLARIFY THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
I WILL SAY THAT I THINK THAT IF
THERE IS THE NEED TO HAVE A
COUNCIL BRIEFING BECAUSE IT
WAS CANCELED DUE TO A MONDAY
HOLIDAY, WE EFFECTIVELY WILL
JUST DO WHAT WE DO NOW, WHICH
IS WORK WITH THE CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE WHO HAS A MEETING ON
TUESDAY AT 9:30 A.M.
TO SCHEDULE THEM FOR FRIDAY,
FRIDAYS GENERALLY ARE KEPT
PRETTY CLEAR IN TERMS OF THE
CITY CLERK'S CALENDAR TO ALLOW
FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE
ACCOMMODATED AND FOR SPECIAL
NEEDS TO BE ACCOMMODATED AS
WELL.
I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION, I THINK THAT THERE
IS, THERE WOULD BE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. IT IS
JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING IT
INTO A FACT ON THOSE WEEKS IN
WHICH WE KNOW THERE IS A MONDAY
HOLIDAY THAT NECESSITATES THE
COUNSELING OF THE COUNCIL
BRIEFING THAT WILL PUT INTO
PLAY THE NEED TO COORDINATE
WITH WHOMEVER THE COMMITTEE
CHAIR IS ON TUESDAY MORNING AT
9:30 A.M.
TO SCHEDULE THEIR MEETINGS FOR
THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY.
I THINK THAT WILL ALL BE
DETERMINED IN SORT OF GRANULAR
DETAIL ONCE THE NEXT COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AND THE COUNCIL ADOPT
A RESOLUTION BOTH THE SCHEDULE
AND THE MEMBERSHIP INCLUDING
THE CHAIRS.
I DO THINK THAT THERE IS AT
LEAST ONE DAY TO GIVE YOU SOME
FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
THOSE COUNCIL BRIEFINGS IF
NEEDED.
ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
ON SIX A OR 6B?
OKAY.COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS,
JUST CONFIRMING THAT YOU ARE
STILL WITHDRAWING AMENDMENT
6A?
>> YES.
I WILL DEFER TO THE WISDOM OF
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
>> WE WILL ONLY HAVE ONE
AMENDMENT TO MOVE HERE AND I'M
GOING TO GET BACK TO THE RIGHT
PLACE IN MY SCRIPT HERE.
THERE IT IS.
OKAY.
I AM GOING TO MOVE TO AMEND
RESOLUTION 3029 AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT 6B ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN SECONDED TO
ADOPT 6B AS PRESENTED ON THE
AGENDA.
THIS AMENDMENT IS BEING
COSPONSORED BY MYSELF AND
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
THERE IS NO PERFECT SCHEDULING
OPTION HERE WHEN WE ARE RUNNING
REALLY BUSY COMMITTEE
SCHEDULES.
EACH COMES WITH ITS OWN SET OF
CHALLENGES BUT I THINK THAT 6B
DOES PRESENT THE MOST VIABLE
OPTION THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THE
FEWEST NUMBER OF POTENTIAL
DRAWBACKS IN TERMS OF
SCHEDULING AND LOGISTICS.
I DO THINK THAT MAINTAINING
COUNCIL MEETINGS AT 2:00 WOULD
REPRESENT THE LEAST DISRUPTIVE
CHANGES IN THE PUBLISHING OF
AGENDAS MATERIALS AND HAVING
CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AT 9:30
A.M.
THE DAY BEFORE ACTUALLY, YOU
KNOW, I THINK WOULD ALLOW FOR
US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE
TIME TO WORK ON THINGS AND NOT
BE AS COMPRESSED BY THE TIME
CITY COUNCIL RULES AROUND 2:00.
I AM HAPPY THAT THIS AMENDMENT
IS LOOKING LIKE IT IS VIABLE
AND MY ONLY REGRET IS THAT I
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BENEFIT
FROM IT.
SO, COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, I
WILL HAND IT OVER TO YOU FOR
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
>> I WAS NOT GOING TO, BUT I
WILL BE BRIEF.
THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.
AND AGAIN, THE REASON WHY I
THINK THIS IS THE BEST
ALTERNATIVE.
I WANT TO THINK AGAIN THE CLERK
STAFF FOR MEETING WITH US.
GETTING BACK TO NOT MAKING
STAFF WORK ON SUNDAYS.
>> PARTICULARLY DURING BUDGET,
BUT ALSO BE MINDFUL THAT WE DO
NEED TO HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE
AND THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND
THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT
SAFEGUARDS WITH DISCRETION OF
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO MOVE
THINGS AROUND.
AND HAVING THAT TIME TO
PREPARE.
SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT 6B?
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA PLEASE.
>> I WANT TO THANK CENTRAL
STAFF AND FOLLOWING UP ON THE
COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
THE CENTRAL STAFF HAVE BEEN
WILLING TO MAKE THEMSELVES
AVAILABLE AND AT THE READY TO
CRAFT AMENDMENTS OVER THE
WEEKENDS AND ON NIGHTS AND IN
DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE PUBLIC
COMMENT THAT WE HEARD THIS
MORNING.
NO WORKER SHOULD HAVE TO DO
THAT.
EVERY WORKER DESERVES REST AND
TIME TO BE WITH HER FAMILY AND
COMMUNITY.
AND THAT IS ESPECIALLY TRUE
FROM A BODY THAT CONSTANTLY
TRIES TO LIFT UP THE WORK OF
THE WORKERS IN EVERY INDUSTRY
AND I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE ABLE
TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY.
IN LIGHT OF THE ACCUSATIONS AND
MISCHARACTERIZATIONS THAT I
HAVE HEARD IN MY COMMITTEE
YESTERDAY AS IT RELATED TO
CENTRAL STAFF AS WELL.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO TAKE
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK
CENTRAL STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK
THAT THEY DO OVER THE WEEKEND
AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS
AMENDMENT EXPANDS BEYOND OUR
POLICY WORK AND IT REALLY I
THINK IS GOING TO BE A LEVEL OF
GOOD WORKPLACE BALANCE,
WORKLIFE BALANCE FOR EVERYONE
INVOLVED.
CIRCLE THANK YOU TO CENTRAL
STAFF, TO THE CLERKS WERE ON
THE LINE HERE TOO AND I.T.
AND THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM,
AND TO SET THE SEATTLE CHANNEL,
WE ALL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE DELIVERING OUR
DELIBERATIONS PUBLICLY ON
MONDAY AND VERY HAPPY THAT THIS
WILL NOT BE THE NORM GOING
FORWARD, AND VERY MUCH LOOK
FORWARD MYSELF TO MORE WORKLIFE
BALANCE FOR EVERYONE WITH THIS
AMENDMENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ PLEASE.
>> YOU FORGOT TO THANK OUR
LEGISLATIVE STAFF, OUR STAFF IN
OUR OFFICE WHO FIND THEMSELVES
WORKING SUNDAYS AND SATURDAYS
AND ON CALL AND TRYING TO
REDRAFT AMENDMENTS.
SO, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR SPECIALLY
MENTIONING OUR TEAMS AND OUR
OFFICES AS WELL.
>>> AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
AS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THE
WORK THAT OUR COUNCIL, SORRY
OUR CITY CLERK'S PLAY
ESPECIALLY THE DEPUTY CITY
CLERKS WHO HOLD TOGETHER
SCRIPTS AND ARE MAKING
REVISIONS UNTIL THE VERY LAST
MINUTE INCLUDING OVER THE
WEEKEND AND SO I THINK THIS
WILL BE A LITTLE RELIEF FOR
THEM AS WELL AND REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT NEEDED BALANCE
FOR THEM AS WELL.
>> JUST ONE, ONE MORE EDITION.
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WORKING
GROUP THAT GAVE US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT TO
THIS RULE EARLY ON AND BECAUSE
I AM SURE THAT OTHERS WOULD
HAVE MENTIONED IT, EVEN IF WE
ALL, AS ALL NINE OF US DID NOT
DO SO, MY INPUT WAS PLEASE, IN
SOLVING THIS PROBLEM BEFORE
FULL COUNCIL ON MONDAYS, LET'S
NOT REPLICATED FOR OUR
COMMITTEES ON MONDAY.
AND IN PARTICULAR, THAT WOULD
BE A BIGGER BURDEN I THINK ON
OUR INDIVIDUAL OFFICE STAFF.
SO, IN TRYING TO SHIFT THE
BURDEN FOR THE CLERKS OFFICE WE
DID NOT WANT TO INADVERTENTLY
CREATE MORE OF A BURDEN FOR THE
LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
SO, JUST WANT TO THANK THE WORK
GROUP THAT, IN DEVELOPING A
PROPOSAL, THAT THEY CONSIDERED
THAT INPUT AS WELL.
>> AGREED THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
SOMETIMES IN SOLVING ONE ISSUE
YOU INADVERTENTLY CREATE
ANOTHER ONE AND THAT IS
CERTAINLY NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO
DO HERE.
SO, APPRECIATE THAT.
OKAY, COLLEAGUES.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE
CONCLUSION OF THE DISCUSSION OF
AMENDMENT 6B.
SO, IN ORDER TO KEEP MOVING US
ALONG I KNOW THAT WE ARE
RUNNING RATHER LONG.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND
YOUR COMMITMENT TO STAYING ON
THE LINE WITH US.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT 6B?
>> MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> CHAIR GONZALES?
>> AYE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, THE
AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
AND, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO
AMENDMENT FIVE.
I WILL HAND IT OVER TO THE
DIRECTOR TO WALK US THROUGH
AMENDMENT FIVE.
>> THANK YOU, AND
CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU ARE THROUGH 10.
THERE ARE ONLY FIVE MORE TO GO.
>> WE ARE SO CLOSE.
WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
>> JUST AS A POINT OF CONTEXT.
AMENDMENT FIVE IS AUTHORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON AND
ADDRESSES WHO MAY SPEAK DURING
A COMMITTEE MEETING AND AT
COUNCIL BRIEFINGS DURING THE
CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION THAT
HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
SPECIFICALLY THIS WORD, THIS
AMENDMENT WOULD MORE
SPECIFICALLY PROVIDE THE CHAIR
THE POWER TO DETERMINE IF
LEGISLATIVE STAFF CAN ADDRESS
THE COMMITTEE WHEN A MOTION IS
BEING CONSIDERED.
AND IT WOULD CREATE A NEW RULE
THAT PRESENTERS WHO ARE NOT
LEGISLATIVE STAFF ARE NOT
ALLOWED TO ADDRESS THE
COMMITTEE AND DURING
CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION.
I WILL JUST GIVE THAT HIGH-
LEVEL AND HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS IN THE COURSE OF
DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR
HANDY.
IT WILL MOVE TO AMEND THE
RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT FIVE ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT AMENDMENT
FIVE AS PRESENTED.
I WILL HAND IT OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN WHO IS
THE AUTHOR OF THIS AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT JUST
PAST AS WELL WITH 6B.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF US
INDEPENDENTLY THOUGHT OF THIS
IDEA AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE
THIS INDEPENDENT CONSENSUS
ABOUT DOING SOMETHING TO REALLY
KNOW THAT WE CAN TIME AND HAVE
THINGS ON TUESDAY IS A REAL BIG
HELP.
SO, REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT,
THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT WAYS
OF DOING THIS.
SOMETIMES WE WILL HAVE
COMMITTEES WILL HAVE OUTSIDE
GUESTS OR INTEREST GROUPS AT
THE TABLE.
AND THIS WILL STILL ALLOW FOR
THAT INPUT AT THE CHAIRS
DISCRETION TO HAVE THAT INPUT.
IT IS REALLY JUST SAYING,
ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT DURING THE
ZOO MEETINGS, WHEN IT IS,
EVERYBODY IS ON THE SCREEN AND
IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT THE RULES
ARE AT THAT TIME, ONCE A MOTION
IS MADE AND SECONDED, THEN IT
IS REALLY AMONG COUNCILMEMBERS
TO HAVE THEIR DELIBERATION TO
TURN AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND
TO HAVE THE FLOOR AND HASH
THINGS OUT AS ELECTED.
SO, THAT, THAT WAS WHAT THIS
AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO DO.
SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT
AMENDMENT FIVE?
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
>> AFTER THIS I HAVE TO GO BUT
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN AND I
HAD A TALK OFF-LINE SO HE KNEW
THAT I WAS GOING TO T THIS
QUESTION UP.
YESTERDAY WE HAD WHAT YOU ARE
DEALING WITH TODAY, 15
AMENDMENTS AND SOME OF THEM
CONFLICTING AND HAVING TO GO
THROUGH THEM.
AND, SO I HAD POSED TO
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON
YESTERDAY WE HAD A PANEL AND WE
HAD ISSUES THAT WERE, THERE WAS
A MOTION AND A SECOND IN
DISCUSSION AMONGST THE
COMMITTEE AND AS THE CHAIR I
FELT I HAD THE DISCRETION TO
ASK ONE OF OUR PRESENTERS TO
RESPOND TO SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BY
MY COLLEAGUES.
SO, WHAT I WANTED IS FOR
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN TO
CLARIFY . I WOULD WANT TO
MAINTAIN THE DISCRETION AND THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE COMMITTEE
CHAIR TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT
DECISION.
I DO NOT KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE
A RULE, BUT I'M OPEN TO HEARING
SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU ARE
TRYING TO GET AT COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ.
I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME SORT OF
CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS AND
WOULD LOOK TO COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN TO SEE IF WE CAN ADD
ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT OR SORT
OF THE ISSUE THAT IS TRYING TO
BE SOLVED THROUGH THIS PROPOSED
AMENDMENT.
>> YES.
SO IF WE ARE HAVING A COMMITTEE
MEETING, SO CERTAINLY THE CHAIR
IS ABLE TO INVITE GUESTS TO THE
COMMITTEE TABLE AND IT IS JUST,
WHEN WE GET THE MOTIONS IN
PLAY, THAT IT IS NOT FOR
SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL TO BE IN THE DEBATE
BECAUSE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS
MAY FEEL PRESSURE FROM THAT
PERSON AND IT MAY SORT OF FREES
THE DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT
SINCE WE ARE THERE TO MAKE THE
DECISIONS AND AFTER WE HAVE
TAKEN INPUT FROM VARIOUS POINTS
OF VIEW NOT JUST THOSE AT THE
TABLE.
AND ZUMA PRESENTS AN
INTERESTING SITUATION WHERE WE
ARE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT
CONTRACT OR AN AGREEMENT WITH
THAT ENTITY SO IT WAS HELPFUL
TO HAVE THAT PERSON THEREFORE
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS BUT I WOULD
BE OPEN TO REFINING THE
LANGUAGE EXCEPT FOR WHEN WE ARE
NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT OR AN
AGREEMENT WITH SOMEBODY.
>> DIRECTOR HANDY?
>> YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY
THAT THE WORK GROUP TALKED
ABOUT A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS
IN THIS CASE AND THE ONE THAT
WE TALKED ABOUT MOST WAS THE
CASE WHERE YOU HAVE
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
DEPARTMENT AT THE TABLE AND YOU
ARE IN A DISCUSSION SUCH AS
THIS WHERE YOU HAVE THE MOTIONS
AND YOU ARE TAKING QUESTIONS.
AS WRITTEN HERE, THE CHAIR COULD
, THE PATH FOR THE CHAIR TO
THEN INVITE A DEPARTMENT MEMBER
TO ANSWER A QUESTION WOULD BE
TO SUSPEND THIS ROLE.
SO, THIS GIVES THE CHAIR THE
AUTHORITY TO CALL IN
COUNCILMEMBERS OR CALL ON
LEGISLATIVE STAFF IF THEY
WANTED TO INVITE A MEMBER OF
THE EXECUTIVE STAFF OR AN
OUTSIDE MEMBER THERE WOULD BE A
MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES IN
ORDER TO ALLOW THE DISCUSSION
OR CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION.
PROCEDURALLY, THAT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT LOOKS
LIKE.
>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR HANDY.
APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ , AND
THEN COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> DON'T WE DO THAT ANYWAY?
DO WE NEED ANOTHER LAYER OF
SUSPENDING THE RULES?
I MEAN, I COULD CALL OUT MANY
SITUATIONS AS THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT CAN AS WELL WHERE
SOMETIMES AT THE TABLE A CHAIR
WILL INVITE A PERSON THAT IS
NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT OR
A DEPARTMENT HEAD BUT IS A
ACTIVIST OR ADVOCATE FOR THAT
ISSUE WHERE THEY FIND
THEMSELVES THE ELECTED, ON THE
COMMITTEE FIND THEMSELVES
HAVING TO PRETTY MUCH DEBATE THE
GUEST.
IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING
AT, I WOULD RATHER WE JUST SAY
THAT.
I WANT TO GET OUT THAT BECAUSE
ULTIMATELY, IT OFÃTHE CHAIR
IS THE OFFICER OF THE MEETING
AND CAN MAKE THAT CALL, BUT I
-- AGAIN, I AM STRUGGLING WITH
WHAT EXACTLY WE ARE TRYING TO
GET AT, BECAUSE I THINK WE
ALREADY HAVE THE POWER TO DO
THAT.
LIKE YESTERDAY, WE WOULD NOT
JUST BE LIMITED TO CONTRACTS,
WE WOULD BE LIMITED TO ANYONE
SITTING THERE.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DO
NOT REALLY REPRESENT A GROUP
BUT HAVE AN OPINION AND ARE A
FRIEND OR GUEST OF THE CHAIR
AND SIT AT THE TABLE.
AND RESPOND AND ACT LIKE AN
ELECTED AND RESPOND AT EVEN TO
THE POINT OF HAVING CLAIMING
SUBJECT MATTER KNOWLEDGE.
SO, I AM TRYING TO GET AT, AM I
BEING TOO CANDID HERE, OR AM I
JUST NOT GETTING IT?
>> WELL, LET ME JUST TRY ONE
OTHER WAY.
MAYBE IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP A
LITTLE BIT TO SHOW THE LANGUAGE
HERE SO WE ARE ALL LOOKING AT
THE SAME THING.
BUT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
CURRENTLY WHAT YOU JUST
DESCRIBED IS WHAT THE CHAIR,
THE POWER THAT THE CHAIR HAS.
THE CHAIR HAS THE POWER TO
ACKNOWLEDGE SPEAKERS BOTH
COUNCILMEMBERS AND GUESTS, OR
PRESENTERS OF THE COMMUNITY
DURING DEBATE.
THIS WOULD CHANGE THAT TO SAY
THAT NO PERSON OTHER THAN A
COUNCILMEMBER OR AS ALLOWED BY
THE CHAIR LEGISLATIVE
DEPARTMENT MAY SPEAK.
SO, IF THE CHAIR WANTED TO
ALLOW SOMEBODY OTHER THAN A
COUNCILMEMBER OR LEGISLATIVE --
STAFF TO SPEAK, THEY WOULD NEED
TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
SO, IT CHANGES THE POWER THAT
THE CHAIR HAS WITHOUT
SUSPENDING THE RULES.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.>>
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE
HAVE A LOT OF AMENDMENTS AND WE
WANT TO KEEP AS MANY COUNCIL
MEMBERS ON AS POSSIBLE.
I'M GOING TO SAY
COUNCILMEMBERS, I AM NOT IN
SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT.
I THINK THAT IDEA, AND WE DO
HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO
INCLUDE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE
THAT PROVIDE SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERTISE OR LIVED EXPERIENCE.
SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS MAY
BE FROM THE DEPARTMENT,
SOMETIMES WE HAVE CENTRAL STAFF
THERE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
COUNCILMEMBERS STILL HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF
FOLKS AT THE TABLE.
AS THEY ARE CONSIDERING ITEMS,
ESPECIALLY FROM CENTRAL STAFF
AND OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERTISE.
AND YESTERDAY WE COULD ASK
ABOUT INTIMIDATION AND
FEASIBILITY.
SO, I THINK THAT ATTORNEYS TO
BE, THIS, I DO NOT THINK THAT
THIS NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED THERE
IN STATUTE.
I DO THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO
BE STRONG UNDERSTANDING THAT IT
IS THE CHAIRS PREROGATIVE OF
WHO IS AT THE TABLE AND WHO
GETS TO FIELD THESE QUESTIONS.
I, MYSELF, AS MOSQUEDA KNOWS,
HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE AT OUR
TABLE WHEN WE HAD A THREE
PERSON COMMITTEE WITH ANOTHER
COUNCILMEMBER WHEN WE DEVELOPED
THE COUNCIL WORKERS BILL OF
RIGHTS AN THE HOTEL WORKER
LEGISLATION THAT INCLUDED BOTH
EMPLOYERS AND WORKERS, AND WE
FREQUENTLY HAD FOLKS THAT WE
HAD ROBUST DISCUSSIONS WITH BUT
IT WAS NEVER MY PRACTICE TO
ALLOW FOR COUNCILMEMBERS TO ASK
QUESTIONS IN THE MIDST OF A
VOTE, BUT ABSOLUTELY WERE AT
THE TABLE AS WE WERE DISCUSSING
ITEMS THAT WERE OPEN FOR
DELIBERATION.
BUT, I JUST THINK THAT IT IS
LIMITING AND I THINK THAT WE
SHOULD CONSIDER DISCRETION
GIVEN TO THE CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE.
>> GREAT, THANKS, SO MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
ON THIS?
>> OH, COUNCILMEMBER PLEASE.
>> I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE
THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING ON HERE
AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER
JUAREZ AND COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA WANTING TO DEFER TO
THE POWER OF THE COMMITTEE
CHAIR.
I DO WISH THAT THERE WAS SOME
WAY TO DISCOURAGE THE PRACTICE
OF A COMMITTEE CHAIR INVITING
CONTINUED DEBATE.
FROM NON-COMMITTEE MEMBERS ONCE
A MOTION IS PUT ON THE TABLE.
I THINK THAT SOMETIMES THINGS
THAT MIGHT BE, SOMETIMES
IDENTIFIED AS CLARIFYING
QUESTIONS ARE REALLY JUST AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY AT THE
TABLE WHO MIGHT FEEL
DIFFERENTLY FROM THE COMMITTEE
CHAIR OR MIGHT -- I AM SORRY,
MIGHT FEEL ALIGNED WITH THE
COMMITTEE CHAIR INVITING THEM
TO MAKE THEIR CASE AGAIN AS
OPPOSED TO TRULY PROVIDING
CLARIFYING INFORMATION AND I
DON'T THINK THAT IS ALIGNED
WITH SORT OF THE RULES OF
DEBATE FOR A LEGISLATIVE BODY.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS A
DEFAULT UNDER ROBERTS RULES OF
ORDER, BUT I DO WISH THERE WAS
A WAY THAT WE COULD CONCEIVE OF
TO DISCOURAGE THE USE OF THE
CHAIRS DISCRETION IN THAT WAY
AND REALLY APPRECIATE
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN'S
EFFORTS TO THREAD THE NEEDLE
HERE AS A NONVOTING MEMBER I
WANTED TO SAY THAT.
THANKS.
>>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
LISA HERBOLD.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK
THAT THE LANGUAGE HERE, WHILE I
UNDERSTAND THE INTENT AND
APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO FIND A
SOLUTION TO THE THING JUST
DESCRIBED AND THAT COMES MEMBER
JUAREZ WAS DESCRIBING, I THINK
THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS OVERLY
PRESCRIPTIVE AND DOES NOT
ACTUALLY SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT
IS FLAGGED BECAUSE EVEN IF THIS
AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS, AND HE
CHAIR OF ANY COMMITTEE WHO
WANTS TO STRUCTURE THE
CONVERSATION IN THE MANNER
DESCRIBED BY COUNCILMEMBER LISA
HERBOLD CAN SUSPEND THE RULES
AND ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
I DO NOT THINK THAT, I THINK
THAT THIS IS MORE SORT OF A
GOVERNANCE STYLE ISSUE AS
OPPOSED TO WHETHER OR NOT IT
CAN EFFECTIVELY BE REGULATED OR
ENFORCED THROUGH THE COUNCIL
RULES.
NOW, THAT SAID, I ALSO THINK
THAT THIS COULD BE PERCEIVED BY
SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS
BEING YOU KNOW, UNFAIRLY
TARGETED TOWARDS THOSE WHO MAY
NOT SHARE YOUR VIEW OF THE
WORLD.
AND I WORRY ABOUT THAT
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF
ACTUALLYÃYOU KNOW,
FORMALIZING A CONVERSATION OR A
DEBATE TOO MUCH TO THE POINT
THAT YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY ABLE
TO HAVE SORT OF A FLUID
DIALOGUE AND DEBATE ABOUT THE
ISSUE BEFORE YOU AND THERE HAVE
BEEN MANY INSTANCES IN WHICH
HEARING FROM PEOPLE PRESENTING
AT THE TABLE, WHETHER IT IS A
DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE,
SOMEBODY FROM THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, OR A MEMBER OF THE
COMMUNITY, I HAVE BEEN
PERSUADED TO THINK OTHERWISE
ABOUT A PARTICULAR ISSUE, AND
SO I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF
TRANSPARENT DELIBERATIONS, I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO
MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CREATING
RULES THAT MIGHT INADVERTENTLY
SUPPRESS THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE
IN THAT MANNER.
I KNOW THAT IS NOT WHAT THE
INTENT IS AND I'M NOT
SUGGESTING THAT IS THE INTENT
BUT I JUST AM REALLY STRUGGLING
WITH SEEING HOW THIS RULE,
GIVEN THE REALITY OF HOW RULES
CAN BE SUSPENDED, WILL SORT OF
SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT IS REALLY
TRULY AT THE DISCRETION OF A
CHAIR OF A COMMITTEE AND THAT
DISCRETION WILL BE EXERCISED IN
A MANNER IN WHICH THAT
INDEPENDENT ELECTED OFFICIAL
WANTS TO EXERCISE IT IN THIS
INSTANCE.
SO, I DO NOT THINK THAT I CAN
SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND ITS
CURRENT FASHION AND BUT I DO
APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN'S INTENT IN BRINGING
IT FORWARD.
>> OKAY, COLLEAGUES, AS YOU
HEARD CUNCIL MEMBER FIVE WILL
HAVE TO LEAVE, WE STILL WILL
HAVE A QUORUM.
WE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA AND
STRAUSS CAN STAY ON THE LINE
UNTIL THE END.
WE APPRECIATE THAT WILLINGNESS
TO DO THAT.
SO, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON
AMENDMENT FIVE -- HEARING NONE,
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT FIVE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> NO.>> COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> CHAIR GONZALES.
>> NO.
AS MUCH AS TWO IN FAVOR, TO
OPPOSED.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MADE A
MISTAKE.
>> ALL RIGHT, DO WE NEED TO
RECALL?
I MEANÃ
>> YES.
I APOLOGIZE.
I MEANT TO VOTE NO.
>> OKAY.
CLERKS, DEPUTY CLERK SCHWINN,
DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR
RECONSIDERATION?
>> WE HAVE NOT, YOU HAVE NOT
ANNOUNCED THE VOTE.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND RECALL
THE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
I AM ON TWO DIFFERENT SCREENS.
I APOLOGIZE.
>> THAT IS OKAY.
OKAY, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU CALL
THE ROLE ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT FIVE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER GONZALES?
>> NO.
>> THAT IS NOT IN FAVOR, FOR
OPPOSED.
>>> OKAY, THE MOTION FAILS AND
THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED
AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT
DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN WITH
US.
ANOTHER TO HAVE ANOTHER
COMMITMENT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR EXTRA TIME
THIS EVENING.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
I HAVE A REALLY IMPORTANT
EMERGENCY THAT I NEED TO TEND
TO.
I APOLOGIZE.
THANK YOU.
>> WE APPRECIATE YOU MAKING
TIME FOR AS LONG AS YOU DID.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO
THE NEXT AMENDMENT.
WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE
END, SO THANK YOU FOR BEARING
WITH US.
THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS 12 AND
I'M GOING TO HANDED OVER TO THE
DIRECTOR TO WALK US THROUGH
THIS ONE.
>> THANK YOU.
AMENDMENT 12 IS SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
IT WOULD LIMIT THE TOPICS FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT AT COUNCIL
MEETINGS AND IT WOULD LIMITED
TO MATTERS ON THE REFERRAL
CALENDAR AND COMMITTEE REPORTS
ON THAT DAY'S AGENDA.
IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE ABILITY
OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO
OFFER COMMENT AT COUNCIL
MEETINGS REGARDING OTHER ITEMS
THAT MAY BE INCLUDED IN THE
ADOPTIVE ANNUAL WORK PROGRAM
SERVING THE BROADEST CATEGORY
CURRENTLY LISTED IN THE ROLES.
THIS AMENDMENT RELATES TO FULL
COUNCIL ONLY AND DOES NOT
CHANGE THE COMMENT IN THE RULES
FOR COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THAT, DIRECTOR HANDY.
SO, THIS AMENDMENT IS SPONSORED
BY COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
I WILL HAND IT OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS TO MAKE
HIS MOTION.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
I MOVED TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION
AS PRESENTED ON THE, PRESENTED
AS AMENDMENT 12 ON THE AGENDA.
>> EXCELLENT.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> AYE.
>>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, I
WILL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THE
MOTION FOR THE PURPOSES OF
DISCUSSION.
IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND I
WILL HAND IT OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS TO
PRESENT HIS ARGUMENT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
THIS IS MAKING THE RULES FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT THE SAME AT BOTH
COUNCIL TO ALLOW US TO CONDUCT
OUR BUSINESS EFFICIENTLY AND
EFFECTIVELY . I THINK THAT IT
IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP PUBLIC
COMMENT AND TO KEEP IT RELATED
TO THE WORK THAT WE ARE
ENGAGING IN THAT DAY.
SO ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE IRC,
ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA, DUE TO
THIS CHANGE, IS TOO MUCH FOR
SOME.
I WOULD BE WELCOME TO ALSO THEN
A SET UP PUBLIC HEARINGS ONCE
PER QUARTER OR TWICE A YEAR FOR
PEOPLE TO COMMENT ON THE
WORKPLAN AS A WHOLE.
BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE ARE
SO MANY, EVERYTHING UNDER THE
SUN IS INCLUDED IN THE
WORKPLAN.
IT WOULD ALLOW FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD ALLOW US
TO MORE EFFICIENTLY AND
EFFECTIVELY CONDUCT OUR
BUSINESS.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS.
ANY COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT 12?
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I
APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF WHERE
YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.
ANOTHER THAT OFTEN WE GET
TESTIMONY ON A NUMBER OF ITEMS
THAT ARE NOT ON THE FULL
COUNCIL AGENDA.
I DO WONDER ABOUT ENFORCEMENT.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CULTURE
OF GOBBLING DOWN THE FOLKS WHO
ARE NOT SPEAKING TO ITEMS ON
THE AGENDA.
SO, IS THIS CONTEMPLATING ALSO
THE SORT OF CULTURAL CHANGE
THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE BUT?
AND HOW DOES THAT SORT OF LOOK
IN 2022 AND 2023 OF THESE ARE
ADOPTED IN OUR COMMITTEES AS
WELL?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA.
THIS IS ALREADY RULED IN
COMMITTEE.
SO, IN COMMITTEE IS ONLY WHAT
IS IT -- SORRY.
YOU HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION?
>> IF I MIGHT JUST CLARIFY --
YEAH.
THAT IS SORT OF WHAT I AM
TRYING TO GET OUT.
WE ALREADY HAVE THIS ROLE IN
OUR COMMITTEE AND I JUST,
PERHAPS I HAVE NOT SEEN IT IN
THE COMMITTEES THAT I SIT ON
AND IN THE WAY THAT I CHAIR IT,
BUT OFTEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO
CALL IN AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A
COMMENT THAT IS NOT ON THE
AGENDA FOR THAT DAY.
WE OFTEN DO NOT GAVEL THEM
DOWN.
I'M WONDERING IF THE CONCEPT
HERE IS TO APPLY THE SAME RULE
THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN
COMMITTEE BUT ALSO IS THERE
KIND OF AN EXPECTATION THAT WE
WOULD BE ENFORCING THAT IN OUR
COMMITTEES AS WELL?
I CAN SEE HOW CULTURALLY THAT
PROCESS CHANGE FOR SOME MIGHT
BE CHALLENGING TO ACCEPT AND
CHALLENGING FOR US TO LAMENT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA.
I DO BELIEVE IT IS THE
DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR OR IN
THIS CASE THE DISCRETION OF
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I KNOW THAT WE ALL RUN OUR
COMMITTEES A LITTLE
DIFFERENTLY.
AND MIKE COMMITTEEÃVERY
STRICT PARAMETERS.
AND EVEN -- I HAVE GAVEL DOWN
PEOPLE THAT I SUPPORT AND A
REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE WHEN
EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE STOOD
UP AND STARTED SAYING THEY WERE
OUT OF ORDER.
EVEN THOUGH I -- JUST BY WAY OF
EXAMPLE.
AND YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT
IF ANOTHER CHANGE OR WE ALSO
HAVE THE WORKPLAN THAT INCLUDES
CITY COUNCIL ONCE A YEAR AND
THAT IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR
EVERYONE TO KIND OF ALL THINGS
INCLUDING AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.
YEAH.
THANKS.
>> OKAY, GREAT.COUNCILMEMBER
LISA HERBOLD PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU.
THE DISCUSSION HERE AND
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA'S
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHANGE,
THE USE OF DISCRETION REMINDED
ME OF WHAT MY RECOLLECTION IS
FOR THE GENESIS OF THIS CHANGE
AS IT RELATES TO FULL COUNCIL
AND MAKING IT BROADER TO
INCLUDE OTHER MATTERS DIRECTLY
RELATED TO THE COUNCIL WORK
PROGRAM WHILE STILL, YOU KNOW,
CREATING SOME CONNECTION TO THE
WORK THAT WE DO WAS THAT THERE
WAS CONCERN THAT DISCRETION WAS
BEING USED IN A WAY AND WHEN
YOU USE DISCRETION WHEN IT
RELATES TO SPEECH YOU COULD BE
CREATING A SITUATION WHERE AN
OUTSIDE OBSERVER THINKS THAT
YOU ARE USING YOUR DISCRETION
AS COMMITTEE CHAIR TO CHOOSE
THE KIND OF SPEECH THAT YOU
WANT TO HEAR AND SO, I AGAIN, A
NONVOTING MEMBER, BUT JUST
WANTING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE
AS MY RECOLLECTION OF WHY THIS
WAS BROADENED IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
>> THANK YOU, I WAS GOING TO
CHIME IN WITH THAT AS WELL.
WE HAD ACTUALLY MADE A CHOICE
TO BROADEN THIS LARGELY IN
RESPONSE TO SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE AND
RESTRICTIVE OF PEOPLE'S FIRST
AMENDMENTS RIGHTS AT FULL
COUNCIL IN PARTICULAR.
MY WORRY ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT
SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD IS THAT
NOW WE ARE CREATING A SCENARIO
IN WHICH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
HAVE NO OTHER AVENUE TO
REGULARLY PROVIDE OR EXERCISE
THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS
ABOUT OTHER PORTIONS OF THE
COUNCIL'S WORK PROGRAM SO IF
THIS RULE IS THE SAME IN
COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THE SAME
AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THEN
IT REALLY DOES RESTRICT A
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC'S ABILITY
TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THINGS THAT
MAY ONLY BE TANGENTIALLY
RELATED OR INDIRECTLY RELATED
TO THE WORK THAT WE DO ON THE
CITY COUNCIL, OR TO FRANKLY
WORK THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS
THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE ARE
NOT PRIORITIZING.
BUT, MAYBE SHOULD BE.
AND, SO I THINK THAT, SO MY
CONCERN ON THIS ONE, WHILE I,
YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE THE
INTENT.
WE HAVE ALL PRESIDED OVER A LOT
OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I DO, I
DO THINK THAT THIS, THIS FOR
ME, TIPS UNCOMFORTABLY IN THE
DIRECTION OF CREATING AN
UNINTENDED IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO SPEAK
TO THEIR GOVERNMENT AND MAKE
THEIR OPINIONS HEARD ON THE
BODY OF WORK THAT WE DO,
WHETHER WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA
OR NOT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS
PLEASE?
>> THAT, AND HISTORICAL
INFORMATION INSTITUTION
KNOWLEDGE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
LISA HERBOLD IS HELPFUL.
IT NOT THINK THIS -- I DO
BELIEVE THOUGH, WITH THAT SAID,
THAT THE WAY THAT WE OPERATE
FULL COUNCIL DOES CREATE A
BARRIER TO CONDUCTING OUR WORK
EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY.
SO I WOULD JUST -- THE WAY THAT
WE ARE OPERATING TODAY CREATES
A BARRIER TO -- ELECTED
OFFICIAL -- I JUST HAVE TO SAY
THAT TWICE.
BECAUSE THAT IS HOW I AM
PERCEIVING OUR WORK TO BE DONE.
>> YEAH.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, I
WOULD SAY THAT HEARING FOR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IS PART
OF OUR WORK AS ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC
COMMENT LISTED ON OUR AGENDA.
SO, THAT IS IN PARTICULAR WHY I
AM VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SAYING
THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO
OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS ON OUR
AGENDA, BECAUSE HEARING FROM
THE PUBLIC IS PART AND PARCEL
OF OUR BUSINESS.
SO, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT W█E GET
LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTERS WHO
CALL IN AND SOMETIMES IT CAN BE
UP TO AN HOUR.
BUT, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY
TO HEAR FROM THOSE MEMBERS.SO,
I'M HEARING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW
AMENDMENT 12.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA,
ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD
LIKE TO ADD BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO
THE NEXT ONE?
>> NO, I JUST WANTED TO
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND
ALSO NOTE COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS'S LAST COMMENTS THERE,
WHICH I APPRECIATE AS WELL.
I THINK THAT AS I HAVE BEEN
LOOKING AT THE RULES AND THINGS
OFÃTHANK YOU TO THE CLERKS
AND ALL OF YOUR HELP TO PULL UP
THE PROCEDURAL MOTIONS AND
SUPPORTER.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS MORE
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS THAT WE
CAN DO TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT
THE LANGUAGE ABOUT AVOIDING
REFRAINING FROM SPEAKING
ADVERSELY ABOUT INDIVIDUALS
REFRAINING FROM SPEAKING
AGAINST ONE'S MOTIVES AND
REFRAINING FROM DISTURBING THE
ASSEMBLY.
THESE ARE ITEMS THAT CURRENTLY
RELATE TO COUNCILMEMBERS.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS YOU
KNOW, SOME ELEMENT THERE OF HOW
WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT
OUR DECORUM CONTINUES TO BE
RESPECTFUL SO THAT EVERYBODY
CAN ENGAGE.
AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE
CONVERSATION.
BUT APPRECIATE THAT WAS
WITHDRAWN.
>> YEAH.
SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT A LOT OF
TIME WITH THE RULES.
AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE HEARD
PRETTY CLEARLY THAT EVEN IF IT
IS SPEECH ABOUT A
COUNCILMEMBERS INTENT OR
MOTIVES OR MODE OF DOING
BUSINESS, IT IS STILL PROTECTED
BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT, WHICH
IS PART OF THE REASON WHY I
HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO
ANYTHING OTHER THAN ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT
WAY TO EXPRESS THEIR FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS BUT YOU KNOW,
I APPRECIATE THAT IS AN ONGOING
CONCERN.
HAPPY TO SHARE PAST LEGAL
OPINIONS I'VE GOTTEN FROM THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SO THAT
YOU ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE AS
YOU TRANSITION INTO THE NEXT
YEAR ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN DISPARAGING
COMMENTS ARE STILL PROTECTED BY
THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
SO OKAY.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON FROM
AMENDMENT 12.THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS FOR THE
ABILITY TO DEBATE THE
CONVERSATION.
NEXT UP IS AMENDMENT 13.
SO I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS TO MAKE
HIS MOTION ON AMENDMENT 13.
>> THANK YOU.
I MOVED TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION
AS PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA AS
OFÃ13.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO ADOPT AMENDMENT 13 AS
PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA .0
HEADED BACK OVER TO COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS TO ADDRESS THIS
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS IS CODIFYING WHAT WE
ALREADY HAD REPLACED AS ROBERTS
RULES OF DEBATE.
THE CHANGE IS FROM THE ROBERTS
AND, MR. PETER, IF YOU COULD
CRACK ME, JUSTÃIT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT ROBERTS
RULES IS 10 MINUTES OF DEBATE
AND REDUCED TO FIVE MINUTES OF
DEBATE UNLESS ALL CM'S AGREED
BY -- MINUTES WHILE IT IS FIVE
MINUTES EVERYONE HAS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TWICE TO A
MOTION.
ANY MOTION FOR AMENDMENT, THE
MOTION, ANY MOTION YOU MARK YOU
GET TO CRACKS, FIVE MINUTES
EACH.
JUST WANT TO CODIFY THAT.
>> THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS.
I REALIZED THAT I FORGOT AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT ON IT.
SO, I APOLOGIZE FOR SKIPPING
THAT STEP.
DAN OR NESTOR, DID YOU WANT TO
ADD SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
THERE?
>> I ONLY WANTED TO ADDRESS
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS'S
QUESTION ABOUT, ABOUT ROBERTS
RULES.
I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD DEFER
TO THIS AND THE CLERKS WHO I
BELIEVE ARE MORE EXPERT THAN I
AM ABOUT WHAT IS IS THAT THE
12th EDITION OF ROBERT'S RULES.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD
IN TERMS OF THIS AMENDMENT?
BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE DEPUTY
CLERKS?
>> OKAY, MONICA OR ELIZABETH,
ANYTHING TO ADD IN TERMS OF
RESPONDING TO COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS'S QUESTION RELATED TO
DEBATE?
>> YES.
I AM NOT SURE THAT WE, WE
ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS UP WITH
THE DEPUTY CLERKS AND IN
REVIEWING EDITION 12.
YOU MAY HAVE DONE THAT
SEPARATELY.
>> REPORT ON THE FINDINGS?
>> YES, CERTAINLY.
SO, YES, AS STATED, ROBERTS
RULES DOES HAVE SOME ITEMS
EXCUSE ME, REGARDING DEBATE.
IT DOES CONTEMPLATE A MAXIMUM
TIME FOR EACH SPEECH AND
ROBERTS RULES PROVIDES THAT IF
NO SPECIAL RULE IS IN PLACE
RELATED TO THE LENGTH OF
SPEECHES, A MEMBER, HAVING
OBTAINED THE FLOOR WHILE A
DEBATE MOTION OR DEBATABLE
MOTION IS IMMEDIATELY PENDING
CAN SPEAK NO LONGER THAN 10
MINUTES UNLESS OBTAINING THE
CONSENT OF THE ASSEMBLY.
AND THIS IS PERMISSIVE THROUGH
UNANIMOUS CONSENT OR BY MEANS
OF A MOTION TO EXTEND THE
LIMITS OF DEBATE REQUIRING A
TWO THIRDS VOTE.
SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A
SITUATION WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE
A SPECIFIC RULE.
A SPECIAL RULE WITHIN OUR OWN
COUNCIL OF RULES THAT
ADDRESSES THE LIMITING OF
DEBATE AS IT IS FOR SPEECH, BUT
THIS WOULD BE KIND OF SOME
GENERAL GUIDANCE FROM ROBERTS
RULES AROUND THIS 10 MINUTE
TIMEFRAME AND THEN BEING ABLE
TO KIND OF EXPAND WITH THAT.
UNANIMOUS CONSENT, SO SOMETIMES
THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE NOTÃ
THAT A PART OF ORDER HAS NOT
BEEN RAISED TO SAY WE HAVE
REACHED 10 MINUTES OF THIS
PARTICULAR SPEECH.
CAN WE MOVE ON THROUGH POINT OF
ORDER?
IT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY
DISCOVERED UNANIMOUS CONSENT
THAT THE INDIVIDUAL BE GIVEN
MORE TIME TO SPEAK.
SO, I THINK AGAIN, IT IS RULES
THAT YOU DO HAVE AVAILABLE TO
YOU, AND TOOLS THAT YOU
CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE TO
YOU, AND THIS WOULD JUST BE
SHORTENING THAT TIME TO A
SPECIAL RULE.
>> OKAY, THANKS ELIZABETH FOR
THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA?
>> THANKS SO MUCH, ELIZABETH.
IS THERE ANY HISTORY THAT WE
HAVE WITH OUR FINGERTIPS ON
THIS?
I THOUGHT IT WAS LIMITED TO 210
MINUTE SECTIONS PER DAY.
DID THEY RECENTLY CHANGE THAT
PERHAPS?
IN THE MOST UPDATED VERSION?
>> OF ROBERTS RULES?
YES.
AND THEN, THE SECOND PIECE
THERE WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF
SPEECHES ON THE SAME DAY IN
QUESTION PER MEMBER PER DAY
WOULD BE TWICE.
SO AGAIN, THERE IS ROBERTS
RULES SORT OF RECOMMENDATION.
NO MORE THAN TWO OF THOSE
SPEECHES PER TOPIC AND
CERTAINLY THEN YOU COULD GO TO
THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT IF THERE
WAS OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR AT
THE TIME.
>>'S ELIZABETH, JUST SO THAT
I'M CLEAR, THE ROBERTS RULES OF
ORDER CURRENTLY SAY THAT EACH
MEMBER HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TWICE, WHICH I KNEW, BUT
THE LIMIT IS 10 MINUTES PER
TIME FOR A TOTAL OF 20?
OR IT IS 10 MINUTES TOTAL?
>> YES.
IT DOES A MAXIMUM TIME FOR EACH
SPEECH.
SO, NO LONGER THAN 10 MINUTES.
PER EACH SPEECH WITH UP TO TWO
SPEECHES ON THE SAME QUESTION
PER MEMBER PER DAY.
SO THAT IS 20 MINUTES TOTAL.
>> YEAH.
EXCUSE ME, THOSE ARE KIND OF
THE GENERAL PARAMETERS OF
ROBERTS RULES.
TRY TO KEEP THINGS EFFICIENT
AND EQUITABLE SO THAT EVERYBODY
HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND
THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE
OVERLYING ROLE OF TRYING TO
HEAR FROM EVERYONE FIRST BEFORE
YOU GO THROUGH THE SECOND ROUND
OF SPEECHES.
SO, THESE ARE ALL KIND OF
ACCOMMODATIONS FOR HOW TO KIND
OF PROCEED EFFICIENTLY THROUGH
DEBATE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE
A SUBJECT THAT IS A POPULAR
TOPIC FOR ADDITIONAL
COMMENTARY.
>> OKAY, AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS'S AMENDMENT AS
PRESENTED HERE WOULD MODIFY
THOSE GENERAL RULES AND LIMITS
DEBATE TO FIVE MINUTES TOTAL
BUT STILL ALLOW FOR TWO
SPEECHES.
YOU CAN DO 2 1/2 AND 2 1/2 OR
YOU CAN DO ALL FIVE MINUTES BUT
THEN HE WOULD NOT GET YOUR
SECOND SPEECH.
IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING?
OR IS IT FIVE MINUTES PER
SPEECH?
WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF THIS
AMENDMENT TERMS OF TOTAL TIME?
DIRECTOR HANDY?
>> THEY CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE
TWO SPEECHES EACH AT FIVE
MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF 10
MINUTES.
>> A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES SO WE
ARE SAVING OFTEN MINUTES.
GOT IT.
THAT IS HELPFUL CLARIFICATION.
ENFORCEMENT IS TRICKY WHICH IS
PROBABLY WHY WE DON'T NORMALLY
DO IT.
THE BURDEN OF ENFORCING THIS
WILL LIKELY YOU KNOW, FALL
PRIMARILY TO THE NEXT COUNCIL
PRESIDENT BUT CERTAINLY TO ALL
OF THE CHAIRS OF COMMITTEES AS
WELL, SO FOR THIS TO HAVE THE
INTENDED EFFECT IT WILL NEED TO
BE CONSISTENTLY ENFORCED BY
BOTH CHAIRS AND THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
FOUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT PRO TEM,
SO I JUST WANT TO SORT OF FLAG
THAT, THAT IS KIND OF MY
PIMARY CONCERN HERE IS WITH
IMPLANTATION AND NOT
NECESSARILY WITH INTENT, BUT DO
YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> THIS IS I THINK A GOOD
OPPORTUNITY TO FLAG ONE OF THE
ITEMS THAT I HAD INTENDED TO
BRING FORWARD.
I DIDN'T BECAUSE OF THE -- I
DIDN'T -- I DIDN'T BRING IT
FORWARD FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS
BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WAS THE
INABILITY TO ENFORCE, WE DO NOT
CURRENTLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO
TURN OFF A SINGLE MICROPHONE OF
A SINGLE ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES.
AND NOT THAT TURNING OFF THE
MICROPHONE OF ONE OF OUR
COLLEAGUES IS THE BEST WAY TO
ENFORCE THE ABSENT -- ANOTHER
WAY TO ENFORCE YOU KNOW, I
DON'T, I DON'T THINK OF THE
COUNCIL RULES GENERALLY AS A
STRUCTURE THAT IS ABOUT
ENFORCEMENT.
I THINK THAT AS COUNCIL
PRESIDENT GONZALES SAID THE
LAST MEETING, IT IS MORE ABOUT
A SHARED SET OF EXPECTATIONS
THAT WE HAVE FOR ONE ANOTHER.
I DO NOT WANT TO LEAN TOO
HEAVILY ON WHETHER OR NOT
SOMETHING CAN BE ENFORCED OR
NOT.
BUT, IN THE INSTANCES WHERE YOU
KNOW, SOME OF THE CHANGES I
HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN I HAVE
WANTED TO PUT FORWARD I THINK
THEY ARISEN BECAUSE OF THE
DIVERGENCE AMONG OUR COLLEAGUES
ABOUT THIS EXPECTATIONS.
SO JUST SAYING HERE THAT YOU
KNOW, I AM OF TWO MINDS ON THIS
ONE AGAIN, AS A NONVOTING
MEMBER.
I WOULD MAYBE APPRECIATE THE
STRUCTURE AND THE DISCIPLINE
NECESSARY TO LIMIT MY SPEAKING
TO FIVE MINUTES.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL
AND USEFUL AND A GOOD CHALLENGE
TOWARDS THE GOAL OF BEING MORE
EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.
IF ON THE OTHER HAND WE
IDENTIFY THIS BECAUSE OF A
PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, CREATING
A NEW EXPECTATION THAT WE ARE
FLAGGING BECAUSE OF A PROBLEM
THAT WE HAVE BECOMES DIFFICULT
TO CONTEMPLATE BECAUSE THEN THE
NEXT THING IS REALLY ABOUT
ENFORCEMENT OF THAT SOLUTION.
SO, NOT -- CLEAR AS MUD, MY
APOLOGIES, BUT LETTING YOU KNOW
WHAT I THINK ABOUT THAT.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE?
OKAY.
NOT SEEING ANY OTHER HANDS
RAISED.
I THINK I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD
AND CLOSE OUT DEBATE AND CALL
THIS ONE FOR A VOTE AS WELL.
SO, THE CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE IN THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT 13.
>> MOSQUEDA?
>> NO?
>>THREE?
>> YES.
>> CHAIR GONZALES.
>> NO.
>> THAT IS ONE IN FAVOR TO
OPPOSE.
>> OKAY.
MOTION FAILS AND THE AMENDMENT
IS NOT ADOPTED.
AND, THE BILL IS STILL BEFORE
THE COUNCIL.
WE HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO
CONSIDER, WHICH IS AMENDMENT
16.
I'M GOING TO HANDED OVER TO
DIRECTOR HANDY TO BRIEF US ON
THIS.
>> THANK YOU.
AMENDMENT 16 IS AUTHORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD AND
IT WOULD ALLOW COUNCILMEMBERS
TO ATTEND REGULAR SPECIAL AND
EMERGENCY MEETINGS OF THE CITY
COUNCIL ELECTRONICALLY.
IT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCILMEMBERS
TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT 48 HOURS IN
ADVANCE OF REGULAR MEETING THAT
THEY PLAN TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY.
SORRY, THAT IS FOR BOTH THE
REGULAR OR SPECIAL MEETING IN
THE CASE OF A SPECIAL MEETING,
THAT HAS NOTICED WITH LESS THAN
48 HOURS, OR IN THE CASE OF AN
EMERGENCY MEETING, THE COUNCIL
MEMBER SIMPLY MUST PROVIDE
NOTICE AND SORT OF LIFT THE
TIMELINE ON THAT RECOGNIZING
THOSE IN TIME SENSITIVE
MEETINGS.
AND AS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK, THE
CURRENT RULES ONLY ALLOW FOR
ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION IN
VERY SPECIFIC CASES WHERE
COUNCILMEMBER WOULD BE ENTITLED
TO FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE, PAID
PARENTAL LEAVE, OR PAID FAMILY
CARE LEAVE.
THOSE CURRENT RULES HAVE BEEN
SUSPENDED DURING THE PANDEMIC
TO ALLOW FOR FULL ELECTRONIC
PARTICIPATION.
SO, THIS WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT
TO THE PERMANENT RULES POST
CIVIL EMERGENCY.
>> RED, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ESTER, APPRECIATED.
OKAY.
I'M GOING TO MOVE THE SO WE CAN
HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
I MOVED TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION
AS PRESENTEDON AMENDMENT 16 ON
THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT AMENDMENT 16
IS PRESENTED.
I WILL HEADED OVER TO COUNCIL
MEMBER LISA HERBOLD TO MAKE
SOME REMARKS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO, MY GOAL WITH THIS
AMENDMENT IS TO STRIKE A
BALANCE BETWEEN THE REALITIES
OF GOVERNING DURING A PANDEMIC.
THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE ALL
HAD TELECOMMUTING, AND THE NEED
TO RETURN TO OUR CIVIC
BUILDING.
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD REALLY
THINK ABOUT HOW TO COME BACK TO
WORK IN OUR OFFICES AS WE ARE
ABLE.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO ALLOW
ELECTRONIC PRECIPITATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HYBRID
MEETINGS WITH SOME IN PERSON
AND SOME PARTICIPATING
LACONICALLY ARE SOMETHING WE
HAVE NOT YET TESTED AND THAT
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE MIGHT
NEED TO FIND TUNE AFTER WE HAVE
SOME ADDITIONAL EXPERIENCE.
I THINK THAT WE DO KNOW ENOUGH
NOW TO KNOW THAT IT'S THE
CURRENT RULES, WHICH ALLOW
ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION ONLY
FOR A FEW NUMBER OF ITEMS OF,
THAT SORT OF MEET THESE
QUALIFYING CONDITIONS, THAT IS
GOING TO BE TOO CONSTRAINING
MOVING FORWARD.
THIS AMENDMENT ALLOWS
COUNCILMEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY WITH ADVANCE
úNOTICE GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT OF AT LEAST 48 HOURS.
IN SITUATIONS SUCH AS SPECIAL
OR EMERGENCY MEETINGS WHEN THE
MEETING IS CALLED WITHIN 48
HOURS AND RENDERING 48 HOURS
BUS IMPOSSIBLE.
COUNCILMEMBERS MAY GIVE TIMELY
ADVANCE NOTICE PRESCRIBING TO
NOTIFY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IF A COUNCILMEMBER HAS FAILED
TO GIVE ADVANCE NOTICE THEY CAN
STILL PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY IF COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES APPROVED THE
PARTICIPATION WITH THE VOTE.
MY HOPE IS THAT THIS REALLY
PROVIDES US WITH ELECTRONIC
PARTICIPATION TOOLS WE NEED
WHILE ENCOURAGING US TO
COMMUNICATE WELL WITH EACH
OTHER IN ADVANCE WHENEVER
POSSIBLE ABOUT OUR METHOD OF
PARTICIPATION.
I THINK THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED
IN THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING
YOU KNOW, A SORT OF A -- THAT
WE WOULD CENTER AROUND A
OPPORTUNITY, SORT OF LIKE, YOU
KNOW, LIKE WE DO WITH THE --
CALENDAR.
AN OPPORTUNITY ONCE A MONTH OR
ONCE A QUARTER OF INDIVIDUALS
TO COME FORWARD AND SAY I KNOW
IN ADVANCE THAT I AM GOING TO
NEED TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY FOR THIS SET OF
MEETINGS.
BUT I FELT LIKE THAT SORT OF A
SOLUTION WAS MORE RIGID THAN
WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM THE
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION IN THE
LAST MEETING.
SO, JUST PUTTING FORWARD THIS
AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO
MUCH.COUNCILMEMBER LISA
HERBOLD, ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT
AMENDMENT 16?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA
PLEASE.
>> I AM HAVING VOTED TO SECOND
THIS.
I WANT TO NOTE COUNCIL MEMBER
LISA HERBOLD BUT I -- WE COULD
HAVE THE DEBATE BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS NOT AN
AMENDMENT THAT I'M ABLE TO
SUPPORT RIGHT NOW AND I WILL
LET YOU KNOW WHY I DO
APPRECIATE THE INTENT BEHIND
IT.
I THINK THAT THERE IS CLEARLY
AN INTEREST THAT WE HAVE A MORE
STREAMLINED UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT IS EXPECTED FROM
COUNCILMEMBERS.
I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WITH
THIS FROM A EQUITY AND PUBLIC
HEALTH PERSPECTIVE EARLY ON IN
MY FIRST TERM FOLKS PROBABLY
REMEMBER WE DID A LOT OF WORK
WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT
ARE HERE.
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALES AND LISA
HERBOLD WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
EFFORTS TO MAKE IT MORE
FLEXIBLE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE
PARTICIPATION ESPECIALLY FOR
THOSE WHO NEEDED TO TAKE CARE
OF KIDS OR ELDERLY PARENTS AT
THE TIME WE HAD COLLEAGUES WHO
WERE DEALING WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT SIMILARLY, IF WE
HAVE A COUNCILMEMBER WHO NEEDS
TO PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY,
WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS BECAUSE
THEY HAVE A HEALTH RELATED
ISSUE PERSONALLY, WHETHER YOU
KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE IN THIS
MOMENT THEY ARE WORRIED THAT
THEY WERE EXPOSED TO COVID OR
IF THEY HAVE A KIDDO, OR A
PARENT THAT NEEDS CARE OF SOME
FORM.
I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE, PROVIDE FOLKS WITH THE
OPTION TO DO THAT WITHOUT
NECESSARILY HAVING TO EXPLAIN
TO THE WORLD WHY THEY ARE
PARTICIPATING PUBLICLY OR
PARTICIPATING THROUGH THESE
ALTERNATIVE MEANS AND I
HESITATE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING
THAT HAS A DECISION LEFT UP TO
INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS TO
DECIDE WHAT CONSTITUTES AS A
GOOD ENOUGH REASON FOR NOT
PARTICIPATING AS FOR
TRADITIONAL MEANS AND MODES FOR
THE COMMITTEES OR FOR COUNCILS.
SO, APPRECIATE SORT OF THE
INTENT BEHIND THIS AND I THINK
THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO
MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILMEMBERS
STILL HAVE THE DISCRETION
THEMSELVES TO DETERMINE HOW TO
DO THEIR JOB AND PARTICIPATE IN
A MEETING.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE ARE NOT CREATING ANOTHER YOU
KNOW, UNINTENDED SITUATION
WHERE COUNCILMEMBERS ALSO MIGHT
COME TO WORK SICK OR MIGHT
PARTICIPATE IN A MEETING EVEN
IF IT ISÃYOU KNOW, HAVING THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE
THROUGH NEW TECHNICAL CHANNELS.
WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE
WITH THEIR LOVED ONES WHEN THEY
NEED TO AND NOT FEEL IMMEDIATE
PRESSURE TO COME TO A MEETING
IF, IF THEY ARE NERVOUS ABOUT
DISCLOSING WHY AND AN
ALTERNATIVE WAY TO PARTICIPATE.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE PROVIDING CLEAR ACCESS
FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND
HOW OUR VOTING PROCESSES ARE
DONE.
I DO NOT WANT US TO BE IN A
SITUATION WHERE WE CREATE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WITH
THIS AND TO -- THE, THE
AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW I THINK
LOOKS LIKE IT IS TAKING A STEP
BACK FOR SOME OF THOSE
IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS THAT WE
PUT INTO PLACE I THINK IT WAS
EARLY 2018.
SO, FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD BE
HESITANT TO -- TODAY.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE THAT.
I DO SEE A FEW HANDS RAISED, AT
LEAST THREE.
SO I'M GOING TO GO IN THE ORDER
IN WHICH THEY WERE RAISED.FIRST
IS COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS AND
THEN COUNCILMEMBER LISA
HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
I'M TRY TO CLARIFY HERE SIX AND
SEVEN OF THESE BEING ADDED?
I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH SIX BUT I
DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO
HAVE A VOTE DURINGÃ
COUNCILMEMBERS.
>> THEY ARE BOTH, YES, THEY ARE
BOTH BEING PROPOSED TO BE ADDED
AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT.
I AM GONNA HAND IT OVER TO
COUNCIL MEMBER LISA HERBOLD AND
THEN DIRECTOR HANDY, BECAUSE I
THINK THAT BASED ON THAT
QUESTION AND BASED ON
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA'S
COMMENTS , I THINK THAT THERE
MIGHT BE A CONFUSION ABOUT WHY
THE RULES EXIST THE WAY THAT
THEY EXIST NOW AND SO PERHAPS
-- ADDRESSES THAT AND HANDY AS
WELL SO I WILL NOT LABOR THE
POINT AND RECOGNIZE COUNCIL
MEMBER LISA HERBOLD AND THEN
DIRECTOR HANDY.
>> THANK YOU.
SO, I AMÃINTENT OFÃTO DEFER
TO DIRECTOR HANDY.
BUT, JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT
RECTOR HANDY UNDERSTANDS MY
INTENT AND UNDERSTANDS THE
LANGUAGE AS DRAFTED BUT I WANT
TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE THAT
YOU SEE UNDER NUMBER SEVEN IS
JUST A REORDERING OF THE
EXISTING LANGUAGE THAT IS
CURRENTLY UNDER NOT UP UNDER
BUT UNDER SIX, SO THE CURRENT
LANGUAGE IN UNDER UNDER NUMBER
SIX IS NOW PLACED UNDER NUMBER
-- AS NUMBER SEVEN IN PLACE
UNDER THE NEW NUMBER SIX.
AND THERE IS IN THE
CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHERE A
COUNCILMEMBER IS NOT ABLE TO BE
PRESENT AT A REGULAR COUNCIL
MEETING, THERE IS NO OBLIGATION
FOR ANYBODY TO EXPLAIN WHY NOR
IS THERE UNDER THE CURRENT
CIRCUMSTANCES NOR IS THERE A
REQUIREMENT TO INFORM THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR THE
REASON WHY THEY'RE PLANNING THE
ABSENCE.
I DO NOTE THAT -- SURE THAT IN
MOVING THE LANGUAGE FROM SIX WE
LOST REFERENCE TO RULE D4 NOW
WHICH I THINK THAT WE NEED IN
ORDER TO ADDRESS COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA'S CONCERN.
>>> WE CAN TAGTEAM THE SPECIFIC
LANGUAGE.
PART OF WHAT THIS AMENDMENT
SAYS IS THE THIS LIVES IN THREE
SECTIONS.
ONE ABOUT REGULAR ROLES, AND
SPECIAL MEDIUMS AND THE RULES
HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT RULES
FOR EACH.
THE INTENT IS PROVIDE
SIGNIFICANT FLEXIBILITY TO
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
FOR ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ALL THAT
IS REQUIRED IS 48 HOURS OF A
MEETING.
OF A COUNCILMEMBER WAS OUT ON
AN EXTENDED PERIOD HE KNEW THAT
THEY WOULDN'T BE WITH THE
COUNCIL FOR A MONTH AT A TIME
THEY COULD PROVIDE COUNSEL WITH
NOTICE SAYING THAT FOR THE NEXT
30 DAYS I INTEND TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY IN ALL
CIRCUMSTANCES.
TENSION IS NOT WRITTEN FOR
EVERY SPECIFIC MEETING TO
PROVIDE THAT NOTICE.
IF YOU WERE NORMALLY
PARTICIPATING YOU COULD PROVIDE
48 HOURS NOTICE THAT YOU WOULD
BE OUT OF TOWN OR THAT YOU WERE
SICK, SOMETHING THAT WOULD
ALLOW YOU TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY.
BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED
FLEXIBILITY WE CHOSE TO STRIKE
THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE PAID
MEDICAL AND FAMILY LEAVE.
DO WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT IS
DONE IN THE AMENDMENT?
>> FOR A REGULAR MEETING WHICH
IS SCHEDULED ROUTINELY AT THE
DAY TAPE DAY AND TIME.
THE EXPECTATION IS THAT COUNCIL
MEMBERS WOULD PROVIDE THE
COMMITTEE CHAIR OR THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT IN THE EVENT THAT WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL
MEETING WITH 48 HOURS OF NOTICE
AT LEASE.
IN THE EVENT THAT THAT DOES NOT
HAPPEN THERE IS STILL A
PROVISION FOR THE FULL COUNSEL
TO VOTE BY MAJORITY THAT WOULD
ALLOW THE COUNCILMEMBER TO
ATTEND ELECTRONICALLY IF THERE
WAS A LATE BREAKING ILLNESS
THAT KEPT THE COUNCILMEMBER
AWAY FROM AN IN PERSON MEETING.
THAT IS FOR REGULAR MEETINGS.
IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN I'M NOT
SURE WHO IS CONTROLLING THE
AMENDMENT.
I WILL JUST KEEP TALKING.
FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS THAT ARE
CALLED WITH LESS TIME THEN 48
HOURS OF ADVANCED NOTICE, AND
THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL
PROVIDE HIS EARLY NOTICE AND
HAS PRACTICAL, THERE IS STILL
THE FAILSAFE THAT THE FULL
COUNCIL CAN TAKE THE FULL VOTE
TO PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY
AND THE FINAL SECTION IS LAST-
MINUTE MEETINGS, LIKE A NATURAL
DISASTER.
IF WE COULD SCROLL DOWN TO THE
NEXT SECTION.
THIS SAYS BEFORE THE MEETING
STARTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS
SHOULD NOTIFY THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT OF A DESIRE OR NEED
TO ATTEND ELECTRONICALLY, AND
IF YOU LOOK AT ITEM FIVE THE
SAME VOTE THAT COULD HAPPEN IN
THE EVENT THAT PRIOR NOTICE WAS
NOT PROVIDED.
THAT WOULD ALLOW COUNCILMEMBER
TO ATTEND ELECTRONICALLY.
>> THANK YOU DAN AND ESTHER.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
SPOKE THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD FOR CLARIFYING YOUR
INTENT.
COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS FROM
CENTRAL STAFF THAT IS NOT HOW I
READ THIS LANGUAGE.
IT CLEARLY SAYS FOR REGULAR
MEETINGS.
FOR ANY REASON THE
COUNCILMEMBER MAY VOTE ON
REGULAR MEETINGS AS LONG AS THEY
NOTIFY THEM 48 HOURS IN
ADVANCE.
THAT IS NOT THE SAME LANGUAGE
THAT WAS INCLUDED IN 2018 WHEN
THE INFORMATION WAS DATED.
A NUMBER SEVEN IT SAYS THAT
THEY CANNOT PRESENTED A REGULAR
MEETING AND IF APPROVED BY A
MAJORITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS
PRESENT, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
FROM WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
BOTH REQUIRE ADVANCED NOTICE OF
48 HOURS, AND APPROVAL BY THE
MAJORITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS
PRESENT AND VOTING.
IT DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE THAT
SOMEBODY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO
GIVE THAT ADVANCED NOTICE TO
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR
REGULAR AND SPECIAL MEETINGS.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT IT SAYS
RELATED TO SPECIAL MEETINGS
WITHIN 48 HOURS OF NOTICE TO
THE PUBLIC.
WHY IS AN INDIVIDUAL
COUNCILMEMBER REQUIRED TO
NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY TO THE
PUBLIC.
I THINK THAT SOMETHING IS LOST
IN THE DRAFTING OR TRANSLATION
IF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS INTENT
WAS TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT
FLEXIBILITY.
I DO NOT NECESSARILY SEE THAT
IN THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF US,
AND I AM NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING
ON THIS VERSION.
I DO UNDERSTAND THE INTENT.
BUT THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF
TIMES WHERE YOU HAVE OR REFER
TO CURRENT FLEXIBILITY I WANT
TO REMIND YOU THAT THE CURRENT
FLEXIBILITY IS ZERO ELECTRONIC
PARTICIPATION.
UNLESS WE CHANGE THE RULES.
THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE MAXIMUM
FLEXIBILITY TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY IS BECAUSE THE
GOVERNOR ISSUED THE
PROCLAMATION ALLOWING FOR THAT
TO BE THE CASE.
SOON AS THAT PROCLAMATION IS
RESCINDED WE WILL DEFAULT TO
THE BASE RULES.
THE BASIC RULES ARE
EXTRAORDINARILY RESTRICTIVE
BECAUSE THEY ONLY ALLOW A
COUNCILMEMBER TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY IN THE
ENUMERATED SITUATIONS THAT YOU
AND I WORKED ON IN A 2018.
AND IN THE BASE RULES IT IS
CURRENTLY REQUIRED THAT IN
ORDER TO PARTICIPATE
ELECTRONICALLY YOU HAVE TO GET
CONSENT FROM THE BODY TO
PARTICIPATE.
SO THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US IS
TRYING TO CHANGE THE BASE
RULES.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
NOT COMPARE THIS AMENDMENT TO
CURRENT OPERATIONS BECAUSE
CURRENT OPERATIONS ARE IN PLACE
BECAUSE OF WHAT THE GOVERNOR
ISSUED THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO
SUSPEND IN THE ENTIRETY THE
RULES RELATED TO ELECTRONIC
VERSUS IN-PERSON PARTICIPATION.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS
COMPARE THIS AMENDMENT TO PRE-
COVID LIFE, AND HOW THE RULES
WERE PRE-COVID WITH THE
EXPECTATION THAT SOMEDAY WE MAY
BE BACK IN PRE-COVID SCENARIO
AND WANT TO IMPLEMENT A HYBRID
MODEL.
IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE A HYBRID
MODEL THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF
NOTIFICATION.
SO THAT I.T.
AND THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND
OTHERS CAN PLAN FOR THE
LOGISTICS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO
ACCOMMODATE A REQUEST FOR
ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION.
TO THE EXTENT THAT THE REQUEST
FOR ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION
REQUIRES APPROVAL BY THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THAT
PROBABLY GOES A LITTLE TO FAR.
I DO THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO
BE SOME SORT OF PROACTIVE
COMMUNICATION.
CANNOT BE THE 11th HOUR.
THERE SO MANY TIMES WHERE I
WILL GET MESSAGES WITHIN 30
MINUTES OR EVEN 15 MINUTES OF A
SCHEDULED MEETING ABOUT BEING
LATE, O HAVING TECHNOLOGY
ISSUES OR NEEDING TO LEAVE
EARLY OR CHANGE THE ORDER.
IT IS SO HARD TO MANAGE THE
EFFICIENCY WITHOUT NOTICE.
AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING
MICROMANAGED, I AGREE THAT WE
SHOULD HAVE LANGUAGE THAT
ADDRESSES THOSE CONCERNS.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME LEVEL OF
NOTICE OF A HYBRID MODEL OF HOW
WE ARE GOING TO DO BUSINESS AS
A CITY COUNCIL.
POST-COVID.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT FOR
CONTEXT TO THE CONVERSATION.
I FEEL THAT WE ARE COMPARING
WHAT IT IS LIKE NOW TO THIS
AMENDMENT.
AND THE REALITY IS THAT WE
SHOULD BE COMPARING WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN THIS AMENDMENT TO
HOW WE WERE OPERATING PRE-
COVID.
DIRECTOR HANDY?
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO
ADD?
>> I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING
SPECIFIC TO ADD.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ?
>> THERE ARE MULTIPLE PLACES
WHERE THIS LANGUAGE IS
INSERTED, I'M LOOKING IN ONE
PLACE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS
A REQUIREMENT FOR APPROVAL OF
THE PRESIDENT I BELIEVE THAT
LANGUAGE WAS TO INFORM, AND I
DON'T THINK THERE IS A
REQUIREMENT TO NOTIFY THE
PUBLIC.
THERE IS NOT AN INTENT TO
NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
EXPECT THAT IS IN THE SPECIAL
MEETING SECTION IF WE CAN
SCROLL TO THAT SO THAT WE ARE
ALL LOOKING AT IT.
THAT IS IN CASE OF A SPECIAL
MEETING THAT HAS BEEN NOTICE TO
THE PUBLIC WITH LESS THAN 48
HOURS.
IN THOSE CASES THE
COUNCILMEMBER NEEDS TO PROVIDE
NOTICE TO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
NOT 48 HOURS.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S
CONFUSING BECAUSE THEY SIT NEXT
TO EACH OTHER.
THE NOTICES ABOUT THE MEETING
BEING A PUBLIC NOT THE ABSENCE.
>> IT IS NOT ABSENT, IT'S JUST
ELECTRONIC.
BUT I MISSPOKE IT'S ELECTRONIC
PARTICIPATION.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS HAS MORE
WORK.
I HAVE MY SECOND OF A THIRD
COMMUNITY EVENT TO ATTEND.
SO MY TIME IS QUICKLY EXPIRING.
IN ADDITION TO MY OFFICE HOURS.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HOW
MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE YOU?
>> I HAVE -10 MINUTES.
I HAVE 20 MINUTES AT MOST.
BUT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EAT
BEFORE MY NEXT MEETING.
>> WE WILL TRY TO WRAP THIS UP
IN THE NEXT 15 MINUTES.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE ONLY
HAVE ONE MORE AMENDMENT AND IT
IS YOURS, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
COLLEAGUES, I DO WANT TO KEEP
US MOVING.
MAY I SUGGEST THAT WE DO A
LITTLE BIT MORE WORK ON THIS ONE
. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION
AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK WE KNOW WHERE THE
ISSUES AND CONCERNS ARE.
AND THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE LANGUAGES REFLECTIVE
AND NOT CONFUSING AND CLEAR.
TO CREATE A CHANGE FROM THE
STATUS QUO RULES THAT SEVERELY
LIMIT ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION.
TO DOCUMENT SOME LEVEL OF
FLEXIBILITY.
IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE
THE GREATEST LEVEL OF
FLEXIBILITY LIKE WE DO NOW,
THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A NEW
AMENDMENT PROPOSED.
THIS IS A MIDDLE OF THE GROUND
APPROACH AS OPPOSED TO
ELECTRONIC ALWAYS PROPOSAL
WHICH WAS ONE OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS BEING PUT
FORWARD BY THE WORK GROUP.
I APPRECIATE THE NEED TO HAVE
MORE CONVERSATION AND TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE
SAME PAGE.
I BELIEVE WE WILL GET THERE.
>> I AGREE AND I APPRECIATE THE
CLARIFICATION.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO CENTRAL
STAFF AND MY COLLEAGUES.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE I WAS
MISREADING THE PUBLIC ASPECT
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT WE CAN
FINESSE THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO THAT CONVERSATION ON MONDAY.
>> THE APPROVAL PART IS IN THE
BASE RULES AND WE MAY WANT TO
CHANGE THAT.
IF THAT IS THE CASE THIS IS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
MORE TO COME ON THAT.
I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
THE LAST AMENDMENT I'M GOING TO
MOVE QUICKLY OVER TO THAT ONE,
AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE
THAT TO AMENDMENT 15.
DIRECTOR HANDY CAN YOU WALK US
THROUGH THIS, PLEASE?
>> AMENDMENT 15 IS THE FINAL
AMENDMENT TODAY THAT IS
SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
IT WOULD SET THE COUNCILS
INTEND TO UPDATE THE COUNCIL
RULES TO MOVE TO A NEW SESSION
BASED LEGISLATIVE CALENDAR.
SIMILAR TO ONE THAT IS USED IN
THE WASHINGTON STATE
LEGISLATOR, THE LEGISLATIVE
CALENDAR WOULD BE GROUPED INTO
MULTIPLE SESSIONS.
BILLS HAVE A CUT OFF DATE AND
MOVE TO FULL COUNCIL ACTION,
THEN THERE WOULD BE A BREAK AND
THEN THERE WOULD BE A SPECIAL
SESSION FOR BUDGET.
IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES, THE
CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE
WORKGROUP WOULD RECONVENE IN
JANUARY TO EXPLORE THE BEST
PRACTICES AND LOGISTICS RELATED
TO THIS PROPOSAL AND WOULD HAVE
THE COUNCIL CONSIDER THIS
CHANGE BY APRIL 30, 2022.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS I'M
GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO YOU TO
MAKE THE MOTION.
>> I MOVE AMENDMENT 15.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND AS PRESENTED.
BUT I AM HERE TO REQUEST YOUR
SUPPORT TO ALLOW US TO
CONTINUE, TO TAKE THE TIME TO
EXPLAIN IN PARTICULAR WHEN WE
SAT DOWN WITH DIRECTOR HANDY TO
DISCUSS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
LEVELS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO
CHANGE OUR RULES IN THE AMOUNT
OF TIME IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
AN APPROPRIATE REQUEST TO MAKE,
MY REQUEST IS TO ALLOW US MORE
TIME AND SET A DATE CERTAIN FOR
WHEN WE WOULD RETURN TO DISCUSS
COUNCIL RULES REGARDING
LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO PUT
PARAMETERS ON OUR WORK SO THAT
WE ARE MORE EFFICIENTLY AND
EFFECTIVELY ABLE TO CONDUCT
OUR.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONGOING
SESSIONS.
WHAT I ENVISION IS SIMILAR TO
THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN
OLYMPIA WHERE THERE IS TIME SET
ASIDE FOR COMMITTEE AND THEN
YOU HAVE TIME SET ASIDE FOR
FLOOR ACTION, WHEN I LOOK AT
HOW THAT APPLIES TO THE CITY
COUNCIL I IMAGINE TWO MONTHS OF
COMMITTEE WORK AND THEN A MONTH
OF FULL COUNCIL WORK AND FLOOR
ACTION FOR US TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT IS COMING OUT OF EACH
OTHER'S COMMITTEES.
AS IT STANDS IF YOU'RE NOT ON
THE COMMITTEE YOU GET ONE CRACK
AT IT AND YOU FEEL PRESSURE TO
VOTE THE FIRST MOMENT THAT YOU
HAVE SEEN IT.
THIS WILL TOUCH ON ELIMINATING
ALTERNATES AND SOME OF THESE
OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
I ASK TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE
RESOLUTION SO THAT WE HAVE MORE
TIME TO WORK ON IT AND BRING
YOU A FULL PROPOSAL.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ?
>> I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR
FOR REWORKING THE PROPOSAL
BEFORE US AND RECOGNIZING THE
COMPLEXITY, I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO INTERACT WITH ALL
OF THE EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT AND
HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION OF THE
SCHEDULE IMPLICATIONS AND THE
WORKFLOW COMING FROM THEM TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON
THE SAME PAGE AND THERE ARE NO
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS
FORWARD AS AN ITEM FOR FURTHER
STUDY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA ?
>> I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR
I WISH WE COULD DO THIS NEXT
YEAR AND I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH
YOU ON THIS.
AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THERE
SOME GREAT IDEAS ON HOW WE
FRONTLOAD POLICY EARLIER IN THE
YEAR AND THEN MOVED TO A FLOOR
ACTION SESSION I'M HAPPY TO
WORK WITH YOU ON THAT AND I
APPRECIATE THIS AMENDMENT AND
THE VISIONARY BEHIND THIS.
IF WE MOVE TOWARDS THIS AND
OTHER DEPARTMENTS KNOW THAT
THIS IS OUR TIME FRAME IT WILL
BE A EASY TIMELINE TO
TRANSITION TOO.
AND I ARE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS.
SPIKE THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANY
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
NOT HEARING ANYTHING ELSE, I
WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS
ITEM AND GET COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS OUT OF HERE . WILL THE
CLERK CALLED THE ROLL ON THE
ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT 15?
MOSQUEDA, STRAUSS, AND THE
MOTION CARRIES IN THE AMENDMENT
IS ADOPTED. THAT IS ALL THE
AMENDMENTS I AM AWARE OF.
AND SO WE WILL MOVE TO THE
PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION THREE TWO
029 32029.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ?
>> WE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO
TALK ABOUT THE WAYS TO BETTER
ENFORCE EXISTING ROBERTS RULES
IN THE TWO-MINUTE ALLOTMENTS
THERE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING
THAT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GLADE
OR GREATER CLARITY ON THAT, I
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE
DONE TO GET US TO THIS POINT
TODAY.
LIKE ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS?
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF
YOUR ENGAGEMENT IN THE COUNCIL
RULES.
THIS HAS BEEN A ROBUST PROCESS,
A LOT OF THE WORK HAS GONE INTO
ANALYZING PROPOSALS AND
PREPARING AMENDMENTS.
AND FOR THAT I WANT TO THANK
THE CITY CLERK AND STAFF.
AND OF COURSE MY DEPUTY CHIEF
OF STAFF.
FOR ALL OF THEIR TREMENDOUS
WORK.
FOR MAKING PROPOSED CHANGES AND
AS ALWAYS WE KNOW THAT THERE
ARE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE
WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH BETWEEN
NOW AND MONDAY, I BELIEVE THIS
WAS IN AN PORTON BODY OF WORK
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
ENGAGEMENT AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO TAKING THIS BACKUP AT THE
CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION
THIS COMING MONDAY.
CAN WE CALL THE ROLL ON
RESOLUTION 32029 TO BE
FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL
ON A DECEMBER 13, 2021.
MOSQUEDA, STRAUSS, GONZALEZ.
THAT IS A THREE IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE MOTION PASSES IN THE
COMMITTEE WILL FORWARD
RESOLUTION 32029 TO THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR FULL PASSAGE.
WE ARE AT ADJOURNMENT IS THERE
ANYTHING TO ADD?
BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
SPIKE IT IS MY VERY LAST
COMMITTEE THAT I AM CHAIRING
BUT NOT MY LAST COMMITTEE.
THAT WILL BE COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PARTICIPATION AND YOUR ROBUST
ENGAGEMENT.
I KNOW IT WAS IN THE WEEDS AND
WE ARE WAY OVER TIME.
I DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING
THE TIME.
HEARING AND NO FURTHER BUSINESS
THAT CONCLUDES OUR LAST
GOVERNANCE AND COMMITTEE
MEETING FOR 2021.
AND MY LAST CHAIR OF THE
SUBJECT MATTER.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD
WORK.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.