THE HOUSING AND FINANCE
COMMITTEE WILL COME
TOGETHER.
I'M CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL.
>> POSITIVE.
PRESENT.
THAT IS FIVE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOLKS
WHO HAVE NOT HAD THE
PLEASURE OF HAVING THIS MEETING
ON THEIR CALENDAR
FOR A WHILE.
WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT OUR
CLERK IS FROM OUR
TEAM.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING SHEPHERD
THROUGH COMMITTEES
AND GETTING US ALL PREPARED.
WE HAVE A FULL COMMITTEE TODAY.
I WANT TO THANK OUR COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES FOR JOINING
OUT.
WE'LL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT
AND HAVE TWO ITEMS
ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
WE'LL HAVE A BRIEFING,
DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE VOTE ON
THE TRANSFERRED PROPERTY.
WE'LL HEAR FROM THE DEPUTY
MAYOR, DIRECTOR FROM THE
OFFICE OF PLANNING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND
DIRECTOR MONTEGA FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALSO FROM THE
COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF.
THEN WE WILL HAVE A BRIEFING ON
THE TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK COMMITTEE.
WE WILL HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE
NETWORK COMPANYLABOR
WAGE AND COMPENSATION
STANDARDS.
WE'LL STEREO FROM AMY GORE
CENTRAL STAFF.
THAT'S OUR AGENDA.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, HARING NO
OBJECTIONS.
OUR AGENDA IS ADOPTED TODAY.
LET'S MOVE ON TO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
TODAY WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF
FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL PULL UP THAT SHEET.
WE'RE WORKING IN REAL TIME TO
TRY TO ACCOMMODATE ALL
OF THE GROWING PAINS THAT COME
WITH WORKING
REMOTELY.
WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO MAKE
SURE EVERYONE HAS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY.
TODAY WE ARE LUCKY THAT WE'LL
BE ABLE TO HAVE THE
FULL TWO MINUTES FOR FOLKS TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY.
FOLKS AT THIS TIME O WE HAVE A
HANDFUL OF FOLKS
SIGNED UP.
WE HAVE MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE.
I'LL GET THROUGH AS MUCH PUBLIC
TESTIMONY AS
POSSIBLE.
WE'LL OPEN UP FOR 30 MINUTES.
IF WE NEED TO GO LONGER, I WILL
EXTEND PUBLIC
COMMENT.
YOU'LL HEAR A 10 SECOND TIMER.
THAT'S YOUR NOTIFICATION TO
WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS
AND MAKE SURE YOU DO GET YOUR
LAST WORD IN.
JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK HERE.
I'M SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
FOR THE CLERK AND I.T . FOLKS.
I'M LOOKING AT THE SIGN-IN
SHEET.
I WANT TO CONFIRM I'M LOOKING
AT THE RIGHT SHEET.
IS THIS THE RIGHT SHEET WITH 54
SIGNED UP?
THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
THE BOTTOM TAB SAYS A SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT TITLE.
WE'LL GO WITH THE FIRST SHEET.
54 PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
TWO MINUTES.
YOU'LL HEAR A CHIME AT 10
SECONDS.
THAT'S YOUR NOTIFICATION TO
WRAP IT UP.
PLEASE DO HANG UP THE LINE AND
LISTEN IN ON OUR
OTHER LISTEN IN OPTIONS.
YOU WILL BE ASKED TO STATE YOUR
NAME.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS
RELATED TO ITEMS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA OR OUR WORK
PLAN.
AT THIS POINT, LET'S GET
STARTED WITH THE FIRST
THREE SPEAKERS.
PETER, AHMAD, MOREEN.
PARTY, GOOD MORNING.
I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO PUSH STAR
6 TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
PETER, ARE YOU WITH US?
YES, I'M HERE.
>> WONDERFUL.
GO AHEAD, PETER.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS PETER.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING SINCE 2014.
I COME TO SEE THE COUNCIL FOR
WORK.
THIS YEAR HAS BEEN A LONG
AWAITING.
IT'S BEEN A LONG SEED CAMPAIGN
TO GET TO THIS POINT.
WE'RE ORGANIZING ABOUT THE CUT
GOING ON.
THEY CUT IT FOR NOW.
TODAY WE ARE DELIVERING OUR
PETITION BY MODERN 1600
WITH DEMAND IN IT.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE
IS LESS PAYMENT.
ALSO WE NEED COMPANY COMMISSION
AND ALSO SHORT TRIP
MINIMUM.
ALSO WE ARE ASKING TO UNFAIR
VEHICLE LIMIT WHICH WAS
12 YEARS BEFORE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY FIVE YEARS.
THE BLACK SUV.
SOME ARE 67,000.
THE DRIVER PAYMENT IS SO LOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
REAPPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, PETER.
AHMAD, WELCOME.
THE NEXT PERSON IS AHMAD
MOHAMED.
>> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, COUNCIL CHAIR.
MY NAME IS AHAD MOHAMMAD.
I'M ALSO A DRIVER.
WE SUPPORT STRONGLY DRIVERS
UNION DEMAND.
SINCE I HAVE BEEN DRIVING AND
CLOSELY WORKING TO
DRIVERS, WE HAD A LOT OF
COMPLAINTS OF PAY.
WHEN I STARTED DRIVING UBER,
EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN I
WAKE UP AND TRY TO SIGN FOR MY
CHANCE TO DRIVE, I
JUST ALWAYS REALIZE THAT IT'S
QUIET.
THAT IS REAL WORRY TAKING DOWN
AND DOWN FOR THE PAY.
WE JUST SUPPOSED TO JUST WORK.
WE ARE REALLY INVESTED IN THIS
COMPANY.
THEY'RE NOT SHARING WITH US AT
ALL.
THEY TRIED TO HIDE WHATEVER THE
CUSTOMER PAYS.
YOU NEVER SEE THE SAME AMOUNT.
THEY JUST GIVE YOU LITTLE BIT
CLOSE WHAT THE LIMIT
WAS.
OTHER ONE, THEY TELL YOU AND
NEVER EVER JUST MAKE
FAIR WHATEVER THE CUSTOMER
PAYS.
REMEMBER LAST TIME I SPEAK UP
ON AIRPORTS AND NOT.
THEY CHARGE $128 AND PAY ME
$38.
I ASKED THEM WHY THIS HAPPENED.
I'M THE ONE THAT HAD VERIFIED
CHARGE.
SO WHY IS IT HAPPENING?
THEY SAY TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
SO WE NEED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> HELLO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES, WE CAN.
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS NOREEN.
I'M AN UBER AND LYFT DRIVER.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING FIVE YEARS
NOW.
I SUPPORT THE UNION FAIR SHARE
DEMAND.
WE ARE DRIVERS AND WE ARE
INDEPENDENT.
AS DRIVERS, WE ARE OUT THERE IN
THE FRONT LINE LIKE
ALL OTHER ESSENTIAL WORKERS
RISKING OUR LIVES
WORKING EXTRA TIME WITH NO PAY
AT ALL.
JUST TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND
OUR PASSENGERS FROM
THE VIRUS.
AS WE GET RIDES, WE CLEAN OUR
CARS.
WE DON'T GET ANY PAY.
WE SKIP RIDES AND CLEAN OUR
CARS, DISINFECTANT JUST
TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND OUR
PASSENGERS.
WE DON'T GET PAID FOR THAT.
SO, WE PLEAD WITH YOU TO HELP
US LET THIS BILL GO
THROUGH.
LET US GET A FAIR SHARE FROM
THIS JOB WE'VE BEEN
DOING.
DRIVERS ARE FROM BLACK AND
BROWN PEOPLE.
GETTING THIS FAIR SHARE FOR OUR
COMMUNITY IS PART OF
THE RACIAL EQUITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
HELP US GET.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT THREE PEOPLE WILL BE
MICHAEL WOLF, EDEMA.
DO REMEMBER TO PRESS STAR 6 TO
UNMUTE YOURSELF.
TRY TO GET THROUGH MORE FOLKS,
WE'RE GOING TO DO
1:30.
IF THE CLOCK COULD BE 1:30 FROM
HERE FORWARD, THAT
WOULD BE GREAT.
GOOD MORNING.
I SEE YOU'RE ON MUTE.
PERFECT.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU
FOR HEARING ME.
I CAME IN THIS COUNTRY 17 YEARS
AGO.
SEVEN OF THOSE YEARS I WORKED
FOR UBER AND LYFT.
I CAME HERE BECAUSE OF THE
AMERICAN DREAM.
THIS IS TO WAKE UP EVERY
MORNING AND KNOW THAT TODAY
GOING TO BE BETTER THAN
YESTERDAY.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE LAST FEW
YEARS IT DOESN'T
HAPPEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT HAPPENS.
THE PRICE IN SEATTLE GOES UP,
BUT PRICE UBER AND
LYFT PAY US STAY THE SAME
NUMBERS NEVER MIND HOW
MUCH THEY CHARGE CUSTOMERS.
AFTER SO MANY YEARS WE ASK THEM
TO PAY US FAIRLY.
THEY DON'T DO THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T DO THAT
WITHOUT TELLING THEM TO
TELL DRIVERS PLEASE CUSTOMERS.
MAKE UBER JOB GREAT AGAIN.
LET AMERICAN DRIVE BE ALIVE
AGAIN.
HELP US PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MICHAEL WOLF, GOOD MORNING.
YOU'RE ON MUTE.
GO AHEAD.
>> HI.
THIS IS MICHAEL WOLF.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?
YES, WE CAN.
THANK YOU.
>> I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF DRIVE FORWARD.
DRIVE FORWARD DOES SUPPORT
MINIMUM EARNING STANDARD
FOR RIDE SHARE DRIVERS.
WE ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL.
HOWEVER, ANY RIDE SHARE MINIMUM
EARNING STANDARD
THAT INVOLVES AN ONGOING
JUTELYIZATION RATE AS PART
OF THE MEASUREMENT OF THAT
EARNING STANDARD IS A
NONSTARTER FOR US.
THE SIMILAR SYSTEM BEING
PROPOSED HERE IN SEATTLE
WAS ENACTED IN NEW YORK CITY.
IN NEW YORK CITY, IT CAUSED THE
COMPANIES TO
RESTRICT ACCESS TO THE
PLATFORMS FOR THE DRIVERS
RESULTING IN NEARLY 16,000
DRIVERS LOSING THEIR
JOBS.
THOSE DRIVERS THAT COULDN'T
MEET HIGH TRIP STANDARDS
AND FORCED BY THE COMPANIES
WERE ONLY GIVEN 11
SCHEDULED HOURS PER WEEKEND,
NOT ENOUGH TO EARN A
LIVING WAGE.
ACCORDING TO REPORTS IN
VICE.COM AND OTHER NEWS
SOURCES, DRIVERS REPORTED
WORKING LONGER HOURS AND
MAKING LESS MONEY UNDER THIS
TYPE OF SYSTEM.
THEY ALSO REPORTED SLEEPING IN
THEIR CARS JUST TO
MAKE SURE THEY GOT ENOUGH TRIPS
TO MEET THE HIGH
TRIP STANDARDS TO MAINTAIN
ACCESS TO THE APPS.
THIS IS NOT A SYSTEM THAT WILL
WORK IN SEATTLE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS.
WE WOULD ASK THEM TO REMOVE
ONGOING DRIVER
UTILIZATION RATES FROM THIS
SYSTEM.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
I'LL READ THE NEXT THREE NAMES
AS WELL AS YOU'RE
UNMUTING.
ADAMA, HAVE WE UNMUTED YOU?
OKAY.
I'M SORRY.
I'M NOT ABLE TO UNMUTE YOU FROM
HERE.
IF YOU CAN HEAR US, WE'LL KEEP
YOU ON THE LINE AND
GET YOU BACK IN.
THE NEXT PERSON IS AHAM MAD
ALI.
GOOD MORNING.
YOU CAN UNMUTE.
>> WONDERFUL.
I HEAR YOU.
GO AHEAD.
YES, THANKS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS DR. AHAMAD ALI.
I'M HONORED TO SPEAK TO THE
COUNCIL MEMBER THIS IS
MORNING AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY.
I AM AN INDEPENDENT PHARMACY
OWNER IN SOUTHEAST
SEATTLE.
ONE OF THE ONLY BLACK
INDEPENDENT OWNED PHARMACIES
IN WASHINGTON.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF AN
ORGANIZATION THAT EMPOWERS
THE COMMUNITY IN ADDRESSING
HEALTH DISPARITIES,
WORKING WITH HEALTH SYSTEMS.
I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TALK TO THE
COUNCIL MEMBERS
ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES WE HAD
WITH THE UBER AND LYFT
DRIVERS.
SOME OF THEIR SOCIAL DETERMINES
OF HEALTH THAT HAVE
NEGATIVELY IMPACTED IN TERMS OF
UNFAIR PAY.
WE KNOW THE DRIVERS DEEPLY.
SO MANY DRIVERS ARE FROM
DIVERSE COMMUNITIES WORKING
LONG HOURS TO SUPPORT THEIR
FAMILIES.
DURING THE COVID TIMES, THEY'VE
TAKEN EXTRA TIME AND
EXTRA WORK AND EXTRA EFFORT TO
INSURE THAT WE ARE
TALKING TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND
PREVENTION OF COVID
AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THEY'RE
GETTING TREATMENTS
AND SCREENINGS.
THE UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS
PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE
TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FOLLOWING
APPROPRIATE AND
NEEDED SERVICES TO INSURE
THEY'RE GOING TO STAY
HEALTHY.
I WANT TO THE SAY THAT I REALLY
WANT TO IT RATE WE
STAND WITH THE DRIVERS THE FOR
COMMUNITY FOR FAIR
PAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH DOCTOR.
ADAMA, IF YOU'RE WITH US,
YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK.
YES.
>> WELCOME, GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JANE.
I'M FROM INDIA.
I'M UBER BLACK DRIVER.
I START WITH UBER 2013 AND
START WITH THE LYFT 30 TO
40 YEARS AGO.
I SUPPORT DRIVERS UNION FAIR
PROPOSAL.
WHY DRIVERS NEED A PAY RAISE
BECAUSE EVERYTHING
COMPARED TO SIX OR SEVEN YEARS
AGO, EVERYTHING IS 30
TO 40% GOING UP.
OUR PAY IS CUT BY 40 TO 50%.
WE HAVE NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER.
NO SICK LEAVE, NO 401K, NO
MEDICAL.
WE HAVE TO PAY OUR OWN
INSURANCE AND BUSINESS
LICENSES, CLEANING, EVERYTHING.
2013 WAS UNDER 4000 INSURANCE
ON MY SUV.
NOW I'M PAYING 6000 FOR THE
YEAR.
UBER AND LYFT TODAY JUST CARED
ABOUT HOW TO MAKE
MONEY.
THIS TIME WE NEED HELP FROM THE
CITY.
UBER, LYFT, PUBLIC WE'D LIKE TO
GET PAY RAY.
WE LIKE US TO BLEED AS HUMAN AND
NOT AS-THANK YOU
VERY MUCH HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING.
FOLLOWGOOD MORNING.
GO AHEAD.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE.
STAR 6. THERE YOU GO.
WELCOME.
GOOD MORNING.
OKAY.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
>> HELLO.
>> HI PLEASE.
GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU.
YOU'RE UP.
I CAN HEAR YOU.
WE'LL GET YOU IN NEXT.
IF YOU'RE WORKING ON MUTE.
WE HEARD YOU FOR A SECOND.
THE NEXT PERSON IS REVEREND
YING.
WELCOME.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
THERE YOU ARE.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M THE REVEREND SENIOR PASTOR
AT THE CHURCH OF
CHRIST.
WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES ON THE
SOUTH END AND ALL
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS OUR
MEMBERS AND DRIVERS ARE
IN ALL OF YOUR DISTRICTS.
I STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH UBER
LYFT DRIVERS AND THE
DRIVERS UNION IN THE STRUGGLE
FOR FAIR PAY AND
LIVING WAGES.
I SHARED STORIES.
THEY'RE ESSENTIAL WORKERS
RISKING THEIR LIVES.
YOU HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO
LISTEN TO A FEW STORIES
YET OVER 30,000 DRIVERS ARE
LICENSED IN MARTIN
LUTHER KING COUNTY.
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, COLOR,
IMMIGRANTS PAY TAXES
YET ARE ARE EXCLUDED LABOR
LAWS.
$9 IS UNACCEPTABLE AND NOT EVEN
CLOSE TO A FAIR
LIVING WAGE ESPECIALLY AS
SEATTLE IS THE FIRST IN
OUR COUNTRY TO PASS THE $15
MINIMUM WAGE THANKS TO
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE
PEOPLE'S MOVEMENT.
WITH COVID-19, OUR DRIVERS ARE
INDISPENSABLE.
DRIVERS TRANSPORT WORKERS TO
CLINICS AND HOSPITALS,
MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND INSURE
HEALTH CARE AND
GROCERY STORE WORKERS GET TO
THE JOBS ON TIME.
THEY HELP US IN OUR
COMMUNITIES.
WE ASK THAT YOU LEAVE AND MAKE
SURE OUR UBER LIFT
DRIVERS RECEIVE FAIR PAY.
FAIR WAGES IN OUR COMMUNITIES
AND SUPPORT OUR
DRIVERS WITH THEIR PAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>>> JUST WANT TO CHECK TO SEE
IF T ASAGI IS WITH US.
WELCOME MOHAMED.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> HELLO?
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> HELLO.
THANK YOU.
HOW ARE YOU?
GOOD.
THANKS.
HOW ARE YOU?
MY NAME IS MOHAMMED.
I'M DOING WELL, THANKS.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING US.
MY NAME IS MOHAMED.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING YOU CANNER
AND LYFT THREE YEARS
AGO.
I'M DEMANDING FOR FAIR PAY.
THE COST TO LIVE HERE IS TOO
HIGH.
I USE TO LIVE IN APARTMENT
$900.
NOW GO UP TO $1800.
TOO MUCH.
I DRIVE UBER AND LYFT.
WE ARE NOT MAKING HALF MONEY WE
USE TO MAKE BEFORE.
WE WORK DOUBLE, MORE THAN
BEFORE.
SO ALSO ONE MORE THING.
UBER AND LYFT ARE CHARGING MORE
AND GIVING LESS.
WE ARE THE ONE WHO TAKE CARE OF
CAR MAINTENANCE, PAY
INSURANCE.
WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.
WE NEED TO GET MORE IF
POSSIBLE.
IF YOU CAN HELP US, I WOULD BE
GRATEFUL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JAMAL FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW, DON.
JAMAL, THE GOOD MORNING.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR
GIVING US TIME TO LIST
OUR CONCERNS.
I'M A MEMBER OF DRIVER UNION.
I SUPPORT DRIVER UNION FOR FAIR
PAY.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING FOR SIX AND A
HALF YEARS FOR UBER
AND LYFT.
WHAT I OBSERVE IS DECREASING
FAIR PAY, THE COST OF
LIVING AND EXPENSES INCREASE
YEAR TO YEAR.
ESPECIALLY YEAR 2020.
WITH COVID-19 TOOK MANY LIVES
NOW.
UNFORTUNATELY UBER AND LYFT
CALLED TO HELP IN THESE
HARD TIMES.
DRIVERS ARE TAKING PART TIME
JOB UNPAID TO MAKE SURE
OUR RIDERS ARE SAFE.
DRIVERS EXPENSE ARE INCREASING
FOR SO MUCH WITH NO
HELP FROM UBER AND LYFT.
DRIVERS ARE OUR FRONT LINES FOR
RIDES DOCTORS,
NURSES, FRONT LINE.
BOTH COMPANIES ARE GREEDY
UNDERFUND DRIVERS AND FAIR
PAY.
SOME AFFORD TO FEED THEIR
FAMILIES THEREFORE, WHO
MAY CONCERN TAKE STEPS TO HELP
US DRIVERS TO RAISE
FAIR PAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MATTHEW, GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> HELLO.
I'M MATTHEW.
I SUPPORT THE TNC FAIR PAY.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING FOR LYFT
ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
I'VE DRIVEN IN BETWEEN JOBS TO
SUPPLEMENT MY INCOME.
I'VE DRIVEN FULL TIME AND PART
TIME.
YEAH WITH MY TIME WITH LYFT,
I'VE SEEN THEM USE
DIVIDE AND CONQUER TECHNIQUES
TO DIVIDE FULL TIME
AND PART TIME.
I REFUSE TO BE DIVIDED BECAUSE
NO MATTER HOW MANY
HOURS WE DRIVE, WE ALL NEED A
RAISE.
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SORRY, MATTHEW.
THANK YOU.
BASHIR, GOOD MORNING.
HELLO.
GOOD MORNING.
I DO SUPPORT LABOR UNION PAY.
SINCE THEN, I GO OUT.
WE ARE REQUESTING DISTINGUISHED
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
OF SEATTLE, CITY COUNCIL THAT
STAND UP FOR WORKING
MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS GREAT
CITY OF SEATTLE IN WHICH
UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS ALSO LIVE
TO ENJOY OUR FAIR
SHARE SO THAT WE GET WHAT WE
WORK FOR.
FINALLY, TODAY IS MY PROUDEST
MOMENT TO CALL SEATTLE
HOME BECAUSE OUR DREAMS ARE
COMING TRUE AFTER SIX
YEARS OF STRUGGLE.
I THANK EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
DON, GOOD MORNING.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
GOOD MORNING.
GO AHEAD.
DON, YOU ARE UNMUTED.
IT'S YOUR TURN IF YOU'RE ABLE.
OKAY.
APOLOGIES DON.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP YOU ON THE
LINE.
IF YOU'RE STILL WITH US, WE'LL
COME BACK TO YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
NEXT THREE SPEAKERS FOZZI,
REBECCA SMITH, KATY
WILSON.
FOZZI, GOOD MORNING.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE AND YOU'RE
READY TO GO.
>> YES.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS FOZZI ALI.
I SUPPORT THE DRIVERS UNION.
FOR SOME ODD YEARS, DRIVERS
HAVE BEEN FIGHTING WITH
DRIVING UNION.
THE DEMAND FOR FAIR PAY.
THIS IS MORE VALUABLE NOW
DRIVERS ARE ON FRONT LINE
OF PANDEMIC.
SO IT'S HARD TO PUT FOOD ON THE
TABLE ESPECIALLY FOR
LARGE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO
HAVE FIVE OR SIX KIDS.
EVEN IN TWO BEDROOMS WE'RE
EIGHT HOUSEHOLDS.
WE REALLY NEED FAIR PAY.
ALSO IT'S VERY HARD FOR PARENTS
TO GET THEIR KIDS TO
SCHOOL PROPER CLOTHING.
THAT PAYMENT THEY GET IS NOT
ENOUGH FOR FOOD.
THEY CAN'T PAY.
THEY'RE STILL STRUGGLING.
THOSE HOUSING AUTHORITIES SEE
IF THEY'RE APPLYING
FOR HOUSING, THEY SEE WHAT
THEY'RE MAKING AND IT
LOOKS LIKE VERY HIGH.
THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY.
THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO GET
HOUSING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY.
GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING REBECCA SMITH.
GOOD MORNING REBECCA.
>> HELLO.
GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY.
MY NAME IS REBECCA SMITH.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE WORK
STRUCTURES PROJECT AT
THE NATIONAL EMPLOYMENT LAW
PROJECT MEMBER OF FAIR
SHARE SEATTLE COALITION.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PLAN TO
RAISE DRIVER PAY.
WE TALK TO DRIVERS AND THEIR
ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY ON A DAILY BASIS.
THEY ALL TELL US THE SAME
THING.
DRIVER PAY IS THEIR NUMBER ONE
PRIORITY.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM DRIVER THIS
IS MORNING WHO ARE
SEEING THEIR PAY ARBITRARILY
CHANGED AND ARBITRARILY
SLASHED.
THEY'RE HAVING EXTREME
DIFFICULTIES MAKING ENDS MEET
AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE RISK
THEIR HEALTH AND VERY
LIVES DURING THE PANDEMIC.
SEATTLE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO
MAKE A REAL
DIFFERENCE IN DRIVER'S LIVES
AND CREATE A MODEL FOR
CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SECONDLY, DRIVER PAY IS A
RACIAL JUSTICE ISSUE.
DRIVERS WITH OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE OF
COLOR AND IMMIGRANTS ARE
EARNING FAR BELOW THE
MINIMUM WAGE DISRUPTING AND
EXTREMELY EXPLOITED PAY
STRUCTURE MOVES US A STEP
TOWARDS THE LARGER GOAL OF
DISMANTLING RACISM IN OUR CITY
AND COUNTRY.
I ASK THAT WITH YOUR VOTE YOU
MAKE SURE UBER AND
LYFT DRIVERS RECEIVE FAIR PAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT PERSON IS KATY WILSON.
GOOD MORNING KATY.
>> STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
WELCOME.
GOOD MORNING.
>> HI THERE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>>> MY NAME IS KATY WILSON.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
TRANSIT RIDERS UNION.
WE'RE PART OF THE FAIR SHARE
SEATTLE COALITION.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PLAN.
UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS LIKE
PUBLIC TRANSIT DRIVERS
ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF THE
CRISIS RISKING THEIR
HEALTH AND LIVES EVERYDAY.
AS IT IS, THESE DRIVERS
SHOULDER THE RISK AND OFTEN
MAKE LESS THAN THE MINIMUM
WAGE.
DRIVERS COSTS HAVE BEEN GOING
UP AND UP BUT THEIR
PAY IS NOT.
PASS THIS LEGISLATION AND
INSURE UBER AND DRAFT EARN
MINIMUM WAGE AND WHAT THEY
DESERVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FOLKS, WE HAVE 13 MORE PEOPLE
SIGNED UP.
I THINK IF I MOVE THE TIME TO
ONE MINUTE, WE CAN TRY
TO GET THROUGH EVERYBODY
PRESENT TODAY.
IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THE
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE
EXTENDED BY 15 MINUTES.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, WE'LL
CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC
COMMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT THREE PEOPLE ARE
KENNETH, AMAD.
KENNETH, GOOD MORNING.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
WE STILL SEE YOU ON MUTE ON OUR
END.
STAR 6. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE NEXT
PERSON.
IF YOU GET UNMUTED, LET US
KNOW.
WE HAVE MOLAY.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
WONDERFUL.
GO AED.
HELLO EVERYONE.
I'M A LYFT DRIVER AND SUPPORT
THE UNION DRIVERS
DEMAND FOR FAIR PAY RAISE.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
ALL THE PEOPLE FROM THE
COMMUNITY WHO ARE HELPING US
TODAY.
I HEAR THEIR VOICES NOW TALKING
AND IT'S REALLY
HELPING.
ALL I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE
WORKING FOR THE
COMMUNITY AND WE'RE DOING WHAT
WE CAN TO HELP OUT
AND WE'RE HAPPY DOING IT.
WITH THE TIME ON EVERYTHING,
WE'RE NOT GETTING PAID
ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I'M STRUGGLING THIS WEEK WITH
MY DAUGHTER'S
BIRTHDAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
NEXT WEEK, WE DON'T WANT TO GET
TO THE THIS POINT.
YOU'RE WORKING EVERYDAY AND
CANNOT COME UP WITH
LITTLE THINGS FOR YOUR FAMILY.
I HOPE THAT THIS TIME PLEASE
YOU REALLY CONSIDER
JUST TO MAKE SOME TO SEE HOW WE
CANNOT MAKE THIS
LIVING WITH THESE WAGES.
THANK YOU.
THE NEXT PERSON IS AHMAD.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS AHMAD.
I'M WITH THE DRIVER'S UNION.
I'M CALLING TODAY TO ADD MY
VOICE TO ALL VOICES THAT
CALLED IN TODAY ABOUT THE FAIR
PAY FOR DRIVERS.
IT IS I THINK MORE IMPORTANT
THAN ANY OTHER TIME WE
WOULD FIGHT FOR ALL DRIVERS
THAT ARE DELIVERING OUR
FRONT LINE WORKERS.
ALSO EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THAT'S
PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE
ARE.
DRIVING OVER THE AREA FOR BOTH
ON LYFT I
EXPERIENCED.
I PRETTY MUCH WATCHED MY DAY
GET SLASHED IN HALF.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
I HOPE -- . THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE NEXT PERSON IS HALEY.
GOOD MORNING HALEY.
HI.
MY NAME IS HALEY.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING SINCE OCTOBER
2017.
I DO NOT SUPPORT THE ORDNANCE
WHATSOEVER.
I SECOND TO WHAT MR. WOLF SAID
WHO IS WITH DRIVE
FORWARD.
THIS DOES NOT CORRECT OUR PAY
IF OUR FLEXIBILITY IS
COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF IT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A DIFFERENT
WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THE
SAME THING.
I'M NOT AGAINST HIGHER PAY BUT
I'M AGAINST THIS TYPE
OF PAY THAT'S GOING TO
UNDERMINE THE FABRIC OF THE
BUSINESS MODEL OF LYFT AND
UBER.
IT MAKES IT UNSUSTAINABLE LONG
TERM.
I DON'T FEEL I SHOULD GET PAID
WHEN I'M NOT QUOTE
WORKING.
IT COULD THREATEN THE FACT LYFT
AND UBER SAYS IT'S
NOT SUSTAINABLE AND GOING TO
LEAVE SEATTLE.
THEN NO ONE IS GOING TO GET
PAID.
IT HAS THE ABOUT TO ONLY DATE
TORE 5% OF DRIVERS
THAT ARE WORKING 40 HOURS PLUS.
PLEASE CONTINUE.
>> OH, SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT
IS AN OVERALL
SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO HELP
95% OF THE DRIVERS.
BECAUSE OF THAT, I'M ALL ABOUT
FAIR PAY BUT NOT.
IT'S DECEPTIVE OF UNDERSTANDING
WHAT IT REALLY DOES.
THERE'S BETTER SOLUTIONS TO
ACCOMPLISH THE SAME
THINGS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT PERK IS BOB.
GOOD MORNING.
YEAH FOR ROBERT.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IT'S YOUR TURN.
THANKS FOR DEALING WITH US.
SORRY ABOUT THE CONFUSION.
THAT'S OKAY.
>> LET'S RESTART YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS ROBERT.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE DRIVERS
U.P.
AND SUPPORT THE
FAIR PAY.
I'VE BEEN A DRIVER SINCE 2014.
THEN OUR PAY WAS BASE FAIR.
WE HAD 250.
PER MILE WAS 270.
PER MINUTE WAS 50 CENTS.
CANCELLATION WAS $5.
UBER'S COMMISSION WAS 20% OF
WHAT THE CUSTOMER PAY.
THE CUSTOMER DID NOT COMPLAIN
ABOUT THE PRICE.
THEY WERE HAPPY TO GET A RIDE
WITHIN FIVE MINUTES IN
A NICE, CLEAN CAR.
TODAY UBER TAKES 30%, MANY
TIMES MORE OF THE
CUSTOMER'S FAIR.
UBER HAD A FAIR PRICE THEN, AND
I'M SURE THEY CAN
GIVE US A FAIR PRICE TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN.
GOOD MORNING.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
>> YOU CAN GO AHEAD NOW.
OKAY.
IF YOU'RE STILL WITH US, PLEASE
LET US KNOW.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE NEXT
THREE SPEAKERS.
HI.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
WONDERFUL.
>> MY NAME IS ABICAR.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CHAIR.
I WORK MINIMUM WAGE JOB. I
STARTED OFF AS PART TIME
DRIVER.
I HAD A FULL TIME JOB AS A
PROGRAM COORDINATOR.
I LOVE TO HELP PEOPLE.
I CONNECT WITH THEM, OFFER
SUPPORT AND ACKNOWLEDGE I
HAVE TO SHARE.
UNFORTUNATELY I WAS TIRED OF
DEALING WITH THE
BUREAUCRACY AND NOT EXPRESSING
MYSELF FULLY.
I'M ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT
SOCIAL WORK AS A DRIVER.
I DO THAT AT MY OWN TIME.
SINCE THEN, I HAVE FALLEN IN
LOVE OWNING ANY OWN
BUSINESS AND MAKING GOOD MONEY.
HOWEVER THE GOVERNMENT IS
IMPOSING WILL ON US
STRICTING HOURS OF OPERATION.
PLEASE CONSIDER OUR
INDEPENDENCE, OUR FREEDOM,
FLEXIBILITY.
AMERICAN DREAM IS ALSO YOUR OWN
THING, DOING THEM ON
YOUR OWN TIME.
THANK YOU.
>> AWE MED, I'M SORRY PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES, WE CAN.
THANK YOU.
>> I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE DRIVER
ASSOCIATION.
I THINK THIS FAIR SHARE
INITIATIVE OF THE MAYOR IS
WASTE OF PUBLIC RESOURCES AND A
CURSE TO THE
DRIVERS.
I JUST SEE WHITE PEOPLE PLAYING
AROUND WITH POOR
IGNORANT DRIVERS DIVIDING THEM
INTO GROUPS.
I THINK THAT MARK YOUR CALENDAR
NEXT YEAR AT THIS
TIME.
THIS FAIR SHARE WILL BRING NO
MATERIAL XIZED BENEFIT
TO THE DRIVER AND ONLY LEAVE US
IN MORE DEBT.
WE ARE SLAVES OF UBER AND
COMMUNITY.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS THE
MASTER HERE MAKING SURE
THAT WE DON'T REACH OUR MAXIMUM
POTENTIAL.
THEREFORE WE DO NOT SUPPORT
THIS FAIR SHARE ACT IN
WHOLE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT PERSON.
GOOD MORNING.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE STILL
WITH US.
NEXT PERSON.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
STAR 6. OKAY.
TAMARA, GOOD MORNING.
>> SO SORRY TAMARA.
LET'S HAVE AGDI GO FIRST.
THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE SEATTLE
ASSOCIATION.
ACTUALLY DRIVER COMMUNITY ARE
VERY FRUSTRATED HOW
SERVICE AND FAIR SHARE.
I'M ASKING TO CITY COUNCIL TO
CONSIDER AND NOT
SUPPORT THIS FAIR SHARE.
THIS IS RUSHING TO THE WAY THE
MAYOR INTRODUCED THAT
MAYOR DIVIDED DRIVERS CHERRY
PICKING CREATING A
COALITION, NOTHING TO DO WITH
THE DRIVER ISSUE.
WE ARE ASKING FOR -- WE HAVE
ASKED WAY BACK
SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR TO GIVE US
A CHANCE AND OUR
CONCERN IS WE ARE NOT BEING
GIVEN CHANCE TO PEEK
WITH COUNCIL.
PLEASE, WE'RE ASKING FOR NOT
CONSIDER FOR THIS FAIR
SHARE.
THIS FAIR SHARE IS SHORT AND
MAYOR FROM NEW YORK.
GIVE US A TIME AND TO BE -- .
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SORRY ABOUT THE WAIT.
PLEASE GO AHEAD NOW.
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
GO AHEAD TAMARA.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS TAMARA HOWIE.
I'M A SEATTLE RESIDENT AND BIRD
BAR BOARD MEMBER.
I AM MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT THE
TRANSFER OF THE
BUILDING.
BIRD BAR HAS BEEN PROVIDING
FOOD, ENERGY, HOUSING,
HOME REPAIR, PERSONAL FINANCES
AND SUCH FOR SOME
TIME.
IT'S BEEN ESSENTIAL TO THE
COMMUNITY.
I CAN RECALL MY FAMILY USING
BIRD BAR SERVICES WHEN
I WAS A CHILD.
BACK THEN IT WAS KNOWN AS CAMP.
ABOUT LET'S SAY 20 SOMETHING
ODD YEARS LATER AS AN
ADULT, I USED BIRD BAR SERVICES
WHEN I BECAME A
YOUNG SINGLE MOTHER.
I BELIEVE BIRD BAR HAS BEEN
PROVIDING SERVICES IN
THE COMMUNITY FOR OVER 56
YEARS.
BIRD BAR HAS BEEN AN ANCHOR IN
THIS COMMUNITY AND
INDISPENSABLE TO BLACK AND LOW
INCOME FAMILIES.
THE TRANSPORT IS IMPORTANT.
THE BUILDING IS HISTORIC
LANDMARK AND SYMBOL OF THE
BLACK COMMUNITY'S PLACE IN
SEATTLE.
IT -- . TAMARA, I'M SORRY WE
DIDN'T HAVE MORE TIME.
I KNOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
TOPIC ON OUR AGENDA.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND IN THE REST
OF YOUR COMMENTS,
THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID
SHARE.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT
DISCUSSION.
ANNA, GOOD MORNING.
>> HI, GOOD MORNING.
HERE FROM DISABILITY RIGHTS
WASHINGTON, DISABILITY
MOBILITY INITIATIVE.
FORMERLY ROOTED IN RIGHTS.
WE ARE ALSO PART OF THE FAIR
SHARE COALITION.
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD LOW
VISION MY WHOLE LIFE AND
HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO DRIVE, YOU
CANNER AND LYFT HAVE
BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO MY
LIFE AND MY ABOUT AND
OTHER PEOPLE'S ABOUT WHO CAN'T
DRIVE TO ACCESS OUR
COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN
THEIR POORLY SERVICED
BY TRANSIT.
OUR MOBILITY CANNOT DEPEND ON
UNDEPENDABLE UNJUST
WAGES OF DRIVERS.
WE MUST STAND WITH PEOPLE WHO'S
HARD WORK GIVES
ACCESS TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND
SUPPORT FAIR PAY FOR
THE DRIVERS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE LAST THREE SPEAKERS ARE
TED, CHARLES, HENRY.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> AGAIN.
GOOD MORNING.
OKLAHOMA.
IF YOU'RE WITH US, PLEASE LET
US KNOW.
WE'LL GO TO CHARLES.
GOOD MORNING.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF
AS WELL.
>> HI.
>> WONDERFUL.
I HAVE TO TAKE MY MINUTE TO SAY
I'VE DRIVEN FOR YOU
CANNER AND LYFT ABOUT FOUR
YEARS.
WHEN I STARTED, THE RULES WERE
STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I KNEW THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE
ANYMORE THAN 75% OF
MY FAIR GIVEN TO ME.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
WE CHOOSE TO BE INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS.
WE CHOOSE.
WE'RE NOT DESERVING OF EXTRA
BENEFITS BECAUSE
BASICALLY WE'RE OUR OWN
BUSINESS.
IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS TO
HAPPEN, YOU SIMPLY DON'T
HAVE TO SIGN UP.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN YOU
CAN GO GET ANOTHER
JOB.
TO DEMAND MINIMUM WAGE FOR
SOMEONE THAT HAS THEIR
SENSE. INESS DOESN'T MAKE
IT DIDN'T WORK IN NEW YORK, NOT
GOING TO WORK HERE.
YOU'LL HURT THE DRIVERS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR WAITING ON THE
LINE.
APPRECIATE IT.
HENRY GARRETT, OUR LAST SPEAKER
TODAY.
WELCOME HENRY.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
THANK YOU.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS
GREAT DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA.
I'M WITH THE WASHINGTON STATE
COALITION OF AFRICAN
COMMUNITY LEADERS WHICH
INCLUDES US THROUGHOUT THE
AREA.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR
LISTENING TO US THIS MORNING.
WHAT I WANTED TO HAVE COMMENTS
ON IS THE UBER DRIVER
AND LYFT SITUATION.
I WANTED TO COMMENT THAT
THERE'S SPECIFIC THINGS
THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY IN FAVOR
OF AND THEN THERE'S
A COUPLE THINGS WE'D LIKE TO
PERHAPS EVEN FACILITATE
MORE IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ON.
IN PARTICULAR, WE ARE IN
SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY
DRIVERS WAGE PACKAGE AND
BENEFIT PACKAGE AS A TOLL
WHEN THE UBER FIRST CAME TO
SEATTLE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS 2012 WHERE
THEIR MILEAGE AND TIME
WAS AT A GREAT INTRODUCTORY
RATE.
HENRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY.
I BELIEVE YOU HAD A FEW MORE
ITEMS ON YOUR PUBLIC
TESTIMONY LIST.
I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU EMAIL
US.
I WILL ACCEPTED YOU AN EMAIL
REQUESTING THAT AND
SEND OUT TO THE WHOLE
COMMITTEE.
WE GOT THROUGH OUR ENTIRE LIST
TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FOLKS
THAT CALLED IN FOR
PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO ENDEAVOUR TO
MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM
RUNS SMOOTHLY GIVEN THERE'S A
NEED TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
IT TAKES A FEW SECONDS.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO CALL NAMES
AND TRY TO GET TO
EVERYONE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AT THIS POINT, THAT CONCLUDES
OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY
FOR TODAY.
NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL FOLKS
UNMUTING THEMSELVES
ON THE LINE.
THANK YOU TO OUR FRIENDS FROM
I.T . AND
COMMUNICATIONS WHO HAVE BEEN
HELPING SHEPHERD US
THROUGH THAT.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC
TESTIMONY.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM
ON OUR AGENDA.
CAN YOU READ INTO RECORD THE
FIRST ITEM ON TODAY'S
AGENDA.
>> ITEM 1, COUNCIL BILL 119886.
ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
TRANSFER OF CITY PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 722 18th SEATTLE
WASHINGTON FOR
BRIEFING DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELCOME EVERYONE.
TODAY WE HAVE DEPUTY MAYOR WITH
US, DIRECTOR FROM
OFFICE OF PLANNING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT,
DIRECTOR FROM DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS AND ANDREA
FROM BIRD BAR PLACE ON THIS
ITEM TODAY.
WE HAVE WITH US LISH.
GOOD MORNING.
WONDERED IF YOU WANTED TO GET
US STARTED AND THEN WE
WILL HAVE FOLKS INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES AS THEY DO
COMMENTS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
LISH WITSON COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF.
THIS IS LEGISLATION THAT COULD
TRANSFER PROPERTY IN
THE CENTRAL DISTRICT TO ITS
TENANTS SINCE 1967.
BIRD BAR PLACE IS A SOCIAL
SERVICES AGENCY THAT'S
BEEN IN OLD FIRE STATION 23
SINCE THE CIVIL RIGHTS
MOVEMENT OF THE 1960s AND HAS
DEEP ROOTS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE THE MAP
TO LET YOU KNOW
WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED
THEN SHIFT OVER TO THE
EXECUTIVE TO TALK ABOUT THE
PROCESS.
PROPERTY IS ON 18th AVENUE
BETWEEN EAST COLUMBIA
STREET JUST NORTH OF THE
SWEDISH CHERRY HILL
HOSPITAL COMPLEX AND A COUPLE
BLOCKS EAST -- WELL
SIX BLOCKS EAST OF SEATTLE
UNIVERSITY IN THE CENTRAL
AREA.
THERE'S BEEN A LENGTHY PROCESS
TO DEVELOP THE
AGREEMENTS TO TRANSFER THIS
PROPERTY AND I'LL HAND
OVER TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR IF
THAT'S OKAY TO TALK
ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
THANKS.
>> DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU
LISH.
GO AHEAD DEPUTY MAYOR.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
I'M DEPUTY MAYOR.
IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO ON
BEHALF OF MAYOR DURKAN
TO TRANSMIT THE LEGISLATION TO
PERMANANTLY TRANSFER
FORMER FIRE STATION 23 TO BIRD
BAR PLACE.
BIRD BAR PLACE HAS BEEN A
PILLAR OF THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT COMMUNITY SERVING
FAMILIES FOR THE LAST
SEVERAL DECADES WITH HOUSING
ASSISTANCE, FOOD
ACCESS, ENERGY ASSISTANCE,
FINANCIAL COUNSELING.
ORIGINALLY CAMP THEN CENTER
STONE AND NOW BIRD BAR
PLACE, THEY HAVE BEEN STEADFAST
IN THEIR MISSION TO
SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN SO PLEASED TO BE
WORKING WITH THEM TO
MAKE FIRE STATION 23 THEIR
PERMANENT HOME.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ANDREW
WHO YOU'LL HEAR FROM
LATER ON HER PARTNERSHIP OF THE
BIRD BAR PLACE.
LASTLY, DIRECTION FROM MAYOR
DURKAN, SIX DEPARTMENTS
GOT TOGETHER.
OFFICE OF HOUSING AND A FEW
OTHER DEPARTMENTS
DEVELOPED A SPECIFIC CRITERIA
TO HELP GUIDE THE
TRANSFER OF THESE MUTUALLY
OFFSETTING FACILITIES TO
COMMUNITY.
THIS IS PART OF MAYOR DURKAN'S
CONTINUED INVESTMENT
IN SUPPORTING COMMUNITY
BUILDING.
AS YOU KNOW THE EQUITY
DEVELOPMENT ISSUE INVESTED
MILLIONS TO SUPPORT THIS
EFFORT.
WE HAD $15 MILLION IN DEDICATE
ED FROM THE MEGA
BLOCK SALE TO HELP FIGHT
DISPLACEMENT.
IN JUST RECENTLY, THE EDI HAS A
$5.8 MILLION RFI TO
SUPPORT CAPITOL EFFORTS, AS
WELL AS COVID RESPONSE.
THERE'S NOW LEGISLATION PENDING
BEFORE THE COUNCIL
RELATED TO ESTABLISHING A
PERMANENT EDI BOARD.
BIRD BAR PLACE IS ONE OF
SEVERAL TRANSFERS THAT WE
WILL BE TRANSMITTING TO COUNCIL
THAT WILL TRANSFER
CITY PROPERTY OVER TO COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS
IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
I BELIEVE WE'LL GO THROUGH THE
DETAILS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO DISCUSS THIS
IMPORTANT INITIATIVE.
>> THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR.
WELCOME DIRECTORS.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT
AND COUNCIL MEMBERS
FOR HAVING US HERE.
WE ARE ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED.
THIS IS THE COMBINATION AND
BEGINNING OF A MAYOR
INITIATIVE TO REALLY EMPOWER
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
AND BUILD WEALTH.
THE DEPUTY MAYOR EXPLAINED WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR
ALMOST A COUPLE YEARS NOW TO
ONE HAVE A CONSISTENT
CRITERIA BY WHICH CITY CAN
TRANSFER PROPERTIES TO
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
THIS HAS BEEN AN ASK AROUND FOR
QUITE SOME TIME
ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS CAME TO
US AND ASKED THAT WE
HAVE A CONSISTENT PROCESS.
WE FACILITATED THROUGH A
CONSULTANT TO HELP US
DEFINE WHAT ARE THE KEY
ELEMENTS WE NEED TO CONSIDER
IN THE TRANSFER OF PROPERTIES.
MAYOR DURKAN DIRECTED US AND
ALMOST 18 MONTHS AGO
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT
CONSISTENT PROCESS
COMPLETED AND AGAIN THE
TRANSFER PROCESS.
AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR EXPRESSED
THE SIX DEPARTMENTS
CAME TOGETHER, SIGNED AND
MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT
AROUND EIGHT SPECIFIC CRITERIAS
THAT APPLY TO EVERY
ORGANIZATION AND EVERY
PROPERTY.
THAT WE GO THROUGH THAT DUE
DILIGENCE TO DETERMINE
ELIGIBILITY AT THE END OF THAT
PROCESS.
WE'RE EXCITED BIRD BAR IS THE
FIRST OF THE GATE IN
PART BECAUSE THEY HAVE A
CRITICAL TIME LINE ISSUE
THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
THEM.
WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU WITH
THE CENTRAL AREA,
SENIOR CENTER, LONG TERM LEASE
FOR THE FIRE STATION
SIX AS WELL IN THE NEXT COMING
WEEKS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
WE ARE ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED
THIS PROCESS IS
MOVING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
DIRECTOR?
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
DEPUTY MAYOR.
JUST A REMINDER, THERE ARE SIX
OTHER ONES WE'RE
WORKING THROUGH INCLUDING SOUTH
PARK NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTER LOOKING AT COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD THERE.
WANT TO REITERATE THE COMMUNITY
FOR KEEPING US ON
TASK.
IT'S THROUGH YOUR ORGANIZATION
AND VOICE AND
COLLABORATION WITH THE MAYOR
THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THANK YOU TO BIRD BAR PLACE,
ANDREA SPECIFICALLY.
I'LL LEAVE IT THERE SO YOU CAN
GET TO QUESTIONS.
>> WONDERFUL.
WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE ANDREA HERE
TODAY.
COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE MORE
ABOUT YOUR ROLE AND
BIRD BAR PLACE.
EXCITED YOU COULD JOIN US
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE DID PARTNER WITH THE CITY.
IT'S BEEN A MULTI YEAR PROCESS,
ALMOST A DECADE.
WE'RE HAPPY THAT WE'RE AT THIS
PLACE TODAY.
BIRD BAR PLACE, OUR VISION IS
KEEP A THRIVING BLACK
COMMUNITY.
WE'RE PROVIDING FOR NEEDS IN
OUR MOST VULNERABLE IN
OUR COMMUNITY WITH SAFETY NET
POLICIES.
WE WORK ON POLICY CHANGE AT THE
STATE AND FEDERAL
LEVEL.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE THE
BIRTH OF OUR
ORGANIZATION IN THE CIVIL
RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
THIS BECAME OUR HOME IN THE
LATE 60s.
THERE IT BEGAN OUR WORK TO BE
MORE ROOTED IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
THIS BUILDING IS NOT ONLY A
MEANS TO CREATE ECONOMIC
MOBILITY FOR BLACK PEOPLE BUT
ALL OF OUR VULNERABLE
FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS IN
SEATTLE.
THE CULL COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE
OVERLOOKED IN HISTORY
AND SOMETIMES DENIED.
I THANK YOU.
THE CREATION OF OUR PROGRAM,
NOW BIRD BAR PLACE.
WE FEEL OUR LIVING TESTAMENT TO
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
HISTORY.
IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT SYMBOLISM
AND VISIBILITY BUT THE
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRIDE AND
VALUE WE HOLD AS A
BLACK PEOPLE.
WE'VE HAD EDUCATORS AND PUBLIC
SERVICE, MINISTERS,
ATTORNEYS, BUSINESS MEN AND
WOMEN THAT CAME OUT.
BECAUSE OF THIS, OUR HISTORY IS
IN DANGER OF ERODING
AND EVENTUALLY GOING AWAY AND
PROSPERITY MAY BE
LOST.
úWITH THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STAY
IN PLACE, WE'LL CARRY
FORWARD OUR STORIES THROUGH
PROGRAMMING AND
COLLABORATION WE'RE PLANNING.
AS ONE OF OUR COMPLIANTS PUT
IT, SHE'S A SENIOR.
EVERYTHING I AM AND EVERYTHING
THAT I BECAME IS
BECAUSE OF THE CD.
MY LIFE EXPERIENCES IN THE CD.
WE WANT TO INSURE STORIES LIKE
HERS AND THOSE OF OUR
ANCESTORS ARE CARRIED FORWARD
FOR GENERATIONS TO
COME.
WE HOLD EMPOWERMENT THAT
REFLECTS THE LEGACY OF THE
BLACK EXPERIENCE IN SEAT AND
WILL ACCOMPLISHMENT AND
PRIDE AND OVERCOMING THE
INCREDIBLE OBSTACLES WE
FACED AS A PEOPLE.
ACQUIRING 23 WILL ENABLE US TO
RETRO FIT THE
BUILDING MAKE IT ADA
ACCESSIBLE, CREATE LARGER
MEETING SPACE FOR COMMUNITY
GROUPS AND RESIDENTS TO
GATHER AS WELL AS INSURE ABOUT,
CULTURE.
WE SEE THIS AS A QUEST FOR
SOCIAL JUSTICE AND
EQUITY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
PERSPECTIVE AS WELL
AS THE WORK THAT YOU CONTINUE
TO DO TODAY.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY
SOME QUESTIONS FOR
FOLKS.
I WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK
YOU FOR THE DECADES
WORTH OF WORK YOU'VE DONE TO
MAKE THIS A TRANSFER
POSSIBLE TODAY FOR THE
DIRECTORS AND DEPUTY MAYOR.
THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE
MAYOR BEING HERE
PRESENTING THIS EFFORT.
WE KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKINGEN
THIS DILIGENTLY OVER
THE LAST FEW YEARS.
I WANT TO THE NOTE HOW EXCITED
WE ARE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE
BIT IN COUNCIL
BRIEFING YESTERDAY.
WE'RE EXCITED FOR THIS
LEGISLATION TO MOVE FORWARD
GIVEN HOW MUCH BIRD BAR
NURTURED AND WORKED WITH
THE COMMUNITY, INVESTED IN OUR
COMMUNITY AND MAKING
SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE OWNERSHIP
TO IMPLEMENT
IMPROVEMENTS AND FUTURE PLANS
IS REALLY CRITICAL.
FOR DECADES, YOU'VE HEARD FOLKS
HAVE OFFERED FOOD
BANKS AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE,
ENERGY ASSISTANTS
WORKED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE IN
EMERGENCY SITUATIONS
GET SUPPORT THEY NEED, SO THEIR
POWER DOESN'T GET
SHUT OFF, THEY CAN MAKE ENDS
MEET.
THAT INCLUDES OUR IMMIGRANT AND
REFUGEE POPULATION,
ELDERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND
VULNERABLE FAMILIES.
VERY EXCITED THAT WE ARE ABLE
TO DO THIS TODAY.
WE ARE A VERY I THINK FORTUNATE
THIS IS ONE OF
SEVERAL MUTUAL AND OFFSETTING
BENEFIT SITES THE
COMMUNITY OWNS AS YOU HEARD THE
DIRECTORS TALK
ABOUT.
I THINK THIS HELPS SET A PHONE
FOR FUTURE
CONVERSATIONS.
I SHOULDN'T SAY CONVERSATIONS.
FUTURE ACTIONS.
THERE'S BEEN MUCH CONVERSATION
ABOUT THIS EFFORT.
I WANT TO SAY THIS IS ONE OF
MANY DISCUSSIONS TO
HAVE.
IT'S A CHANCE FOR FOLKS TO ASK
ABOUT PROCESS AND
ANYTHING WE'D LIKE TO SEE
IMPROVED OR STREAMLINED TO
HELP WITH FUTURE EFFORTS WOULD
BE REALLY
APPRECIATIVE AS WELL AT THIS
TIME.
WE KNOW THAT IN LATE 2018 THE
COUNCIL PASSED A
RESOLUTION COMMITTING TO
COLLABORATE WITH THE
EXECUTIVE TO INSURE TRANSFER OF
PROPERTIES AS LISH
NOTED.
THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TODAY
TO MAKE SURE THE LEASE
IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE
COUNCIL AND MAYOR
DISCUSSED WITH THE ORGANIZATION
AND WHILE IT IS PASS
PAST OUR MARCH 29 DEADLINE WE
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT OF
AS ANDREA MENTIONED, EXCITED TO
SEE THIS MOVE
FORWARD TODAY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
CONVERSATION ANDIC QUESTIONS
FOLKS MIGHT HAVE.
THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE FOR
HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
CAN YOU TELL US MORE HOW IT WAS
THAT THE COMMUNITY
ENDED UP HAVING THE FIRE
STATION TO BEGIN WITH?
SURE.
IT WAS A PROCESS WHERE WE
LOOKED AROUND.
IT SHOULD BE MADE KNOWN OUR
SIBLING ORGANIZATION,
THE URBAN LEAGUE, WE GOT
STARTED UNDER THEM.
BEFORE WE GOT OUR DESIGNATION,
NOT ONLY OUR HOME BUT
OUR PRESENCE AND WHERE WE HAD
PROGRAMMING WAS AT THE
URBAN LEAGUE BUILDING.
WE WERE LOOKING AROUND
EXPANDING AND EVOLVING OUR
PRESENCE IN THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT OF SEATTLE WHERE
YOU KNOW THE MAJORITY OF BLACK
FOLKS LIVED IN THE
60s, WE THOUGHT ABOUT BEING IN
CLOSS PROMPTTY WITH
OUR SIBLING ORGANIZATIONS.
WE IDENTIFIED A FEW SCHOOLS,
CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES.
WE DISCOVERED THE FIRE STATION
WAS UP FOR
OPPORTUNITY.
WE WORKED WITH THE CITY AND
COMMUNITY ADVOCATES,
WITH OTHER NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS, OUR ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE COULD
REPURPOSE FIRE
STATION 23 TO BE USED AND
SUPPORTED WITH A GRANT
FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON TO
DO THAT.
IT BECAME OUR HOME IN THE LATE
60s.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> ARE THERE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THIS EFFORT?
ANY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR FOR
BEING WITH US.
REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE
COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER
THIS LEGISLATION TODAY.
I HAD A QUICK QUESTION AROUND
THE MAYOR RENOVATION
PROJECT.
THIS IS REFERENCED IN LISH'S
MEMO.
IT'S THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THE
úSECOND PAGE.
IT DOES MAKE A REFERENCE THAT
BIRD BAR PLACE IS
WORKING ON A RENOVATION PROJECT
AND IN ORDER TO
RECEIVE A STATE GRANT, BIRD BAR
HAS TO CONTROL THE
PROPERTY THROUGH OWNERSHIP OR A
LONG TERM LEASE.
THIS COUNCIL BILL WILL AT LEAST
ADDRESS THAT
PARTICULAR COMPONENT.
I WAS WONDERING A COUPLE OF
THINGS.
ONE, WHAT ARE THE STATE GRANT
POSSIBILITIES AND IF
WE COULD GET A LITTLE MORE
INFORMATION ON THE
RECORD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SECONDLY, IF IT'S NOT STATE
GRANT THAT'S CURRENTLY
IN THE WORKS OR MAYBE IT IS, IS
THERE ANYTHING THAT
THE CITY NEEDS TO DO IN TERMS
OF OUR LEGISLATIVE
AGENDA TO PRIORITIZE
COMMUNICATING TO OUR STATE
LEGISLATORS AND THE GOVERNOR,
THE PASSAGE OF THIS
BILL AND OUR ONGOING SUPPORT
FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS PROJECT AND EFFORT?
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT IS WHAT'S DRIVING THE TIME
LINE.
WE HAVE A BUILDING COMMUNITIES
FUND GRANT WE WERE
AWARDED IN 2015 THAT WE STAND
TO LOSE.
MANY OF YOU MIGHT KNOW IT WAS
EXTENDED.
OUR LEGISLATORS FROM 37th AND
THE 43rd GOT
TOGETHER AND HELPED EXTEND THE
DEADLINE.
THEY WILL NOT -- IT'S BEEN
COMMUNICATING,
OVERCOMMUNICATED THAT WILL NOT
BE GRANTED AGAIN.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE
BEGUN RENOVATION PLANS.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW TO
RETRO FIT THE BUILDING,
INSURE IT SURVIVES THE NEXT
EARTHQUAKE AND ADDING
ELEVATOR, WIDENING DOOR WAYS
AND HALLWAYS TO MAKE IT
ACCESSIBLE AND MODERNIZE THE
WORK SPACE.
WE HAVE TO ACCESS THE $1.5
MILLION.
WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL WE OWN
THE BUILDING.
SO THIS ACTION WE'RE TAKING
TODAY AND HOPEFULLY
PASSES OUT OF COMMITTEE AND
ONTO THE FULL COUNCIL
AND DOES PASS FULL COUNCIL WILL
SATISFY WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE NEEDS IN
ORDER FOR US TO MOVE
GUARD WITH RENOVATION AND
ACCESS FUNDS.
THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING
THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
JUST REALLY QUICKLY SO WE'RE ON
THE SAME PAGE ADDS
TO THAT DEADLINE, SINCE IT IS
GOING THROUGH THE
COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE PROCESS,
PERHAPS YOU OR LISH
OR ANYONE ON THE LINE CAN
REMIND US IN THE VIEWING
PUBLIC WHAT THAT DEADLINE IS.
>> YES.
IT IS OCTOBER.
WE KNOW 30 DAYS AFTER THAT, THE
WE NEED TO COMPLETE
PAPERWORKND,AND THAT SATISFIES
THE DEPARTMENT OF
COMMERCE'S PART.
>> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS COLLEAGUES?
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD AND VICE
CHAIR TO THIS
COMMITTEE.
THE GO AHEAD.
>> I WANT TO FIRST SAY I'M
REALLY, REALLY EXCITED
WE'RE HERE TO TAKE THIS
IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD FOR
THE USERS OF BIRD BAR AS WELL
AS THE BROADER
COMMUNITY.
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT NOT ONLY
FOR PLACEMENT AND
FOR COMMUNITY BLACK LED
OWNERSHIP OF PROPERTIES
WITHIN THE CITY, BUT IT'S ALSO
AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ REFERENCED IMPORTANT
FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD
ON THE NEEDED INVESTMENTS IN
THE BUILDING.
SO, THIS IS JUST -- I'M
ESTATIC WE'RE AT THIS
POINT TODAY AND THANK THE
EXECUTIVE AND THANK THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE
BEEN PUSHING US TO PUSH
YOU.
JUST WONDERING IF SOMEBODY ON
THE PANEL COULD TALK A
LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE -- ONE
OF THE TERMS OF THE
AGREEMENT IS NEGATIVE'S
EASEMENT.
IF NECESSARY HOW WOULD IT BE
TRIGGERED AND UNDER
WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES IT MIGHT BE
TRIGGERED.
DEPUTY MAYOR, IS THAT SOMETHING
-- . I CAN SPEAK TO IT.
I THINK THE IDEA WAS PROVIDE
FLEXIBILITY FOR THE
ORGANIZATION AND EACH SITE IS
GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE SERVICES AND
EXPAND THE SERVICES.
ALSO BECAUSE MANY PROPERTIES
ARE LOCATED IN
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SEEN.
IF A FUTURE OPPORTUNITY ARISES
FOR DEVELOPMENT,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE'S
FLEXIBILITY AND
AGREEMENTS.
THIS ALLOWS THE CURRENT
STRUCTURE TO PROVIDE FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD THERE
BE A PARTNERSHIP
WITH THE CITY AND NONPROFIT.
WHAT TRIGGERS THE COUNCIL
MEMBER WOULD BE IN THIS
CASE.
I HOPE I RECALL IT CORRECTLY.
THE DIRECTOR WILL CORRECT ME IF
I'M WRONG.
IF BIRD BAR PLACE WERE TO
CHOOSE TO EXPAND FOR
PURPOSES OF RESIDENTIAL USES TO
HOUSING, THE
EASEMENT WOULD BE THAT THE
HOUSING IS ART TO BELIEVE
KEEP WITH THE CITY'S OBJECTIVES
TO INSURE PEOPLE
HAVE AFFORDABLE PLACES TO LIVE
ROOTED IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES.
>> THE ONLY THING IS THIS IS
NOT A REQUIREMENT.
IT'S JUST AN OPTION THAT IS
THERE.
PART OF IT SO YOU KNOW WE
CONSTANTLY STRUGGLE
FINDING PLACES FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES IN
THE FUTURE AND IF THE
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE BIRD BAR
PLACE ARE INTERESTED IN
WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
LET'S PUT THAT OPTION THERE IN
ADDITION TO THE
OPTION TO EXPAND THE EXISTING
SERVICES AS WELL.
WHAT WOULD TRIGGER A CHANGE OR
REVERSION IS ONE OF
THE QUESTIONS.
IF THE ENTITY AND ORGANIZATION
CHANGES THE MISSION
AND INSTEAD OF SERVICE
PROVISION THEY CHOOSE TO DO
SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
PRIVATE ENTERPRISE OR ANY
OTHER.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE REVERSION.
SPECIFIC TO THE EASEMENT.
IT'S ADDING THAT FLEXIBILITY AN
OPTION FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
DIRECTOR, YOU REFERENCED A
REVERSION.
IF THEY DECIDED TO CHANGE THEIR
MISSION, WHAT WOULD
THAT LOOK LIKE?
WHAT WOULD THE TERMS OF THAT
AGREEMENT REQUIRE IN
THAT CASE?
THAT WOULD BE BEST ANSWERED BY
THE LAWYERS, IN ORDER
TO PROVIDE TO MEET THE CITY,
THE STATE REQUIREMENT
OF GIFTING OF PUBLIC FUNDS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC
SERVICE THAT THE CITY
CONSIDERS ARE VALUE.
PROVIDED NOW IS A PUBLIC
SERVICE.
THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT
REQUIREMENT.
IF THAT CHANGES IN ANY
SIGNIFICANT WAY TO DO
SOMETHING OTHER, PRIVATE
ENTERPRISE, THEN THAT WOULD
TRIGGER THE REVERSION.
THAT DOES NOT MEET THE
ENVIRONMENTS TO PROVIDE THE
PUBLIC SERVICES AS DEFINED IN
THE AGREEMENT.
>> BUT THE DECISION TO PROVIDE
TO BUILD HOUSING
WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED
SOMETHING TO TRIGGER THAT
REVERSION.
>> AS LONG AS THE HOUSING IS
ARTABLE UP TO 80% AREA
MEDIAN INCOME, IT DOES NOT.
>> ALSO THE COMBINATION OF
SERVICES ON THE GROUND
FLOOR, HOUSING ABOVE, AS LONG
AS IT IS AFFORDABLE.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, I WANT
TO GIVE ANDREA A
SECOND.
DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ELEMENT
OF THE CONTRACT YOU WANT TO
FLAG FOR US?
I DON'T.
I WILL SAY QUITE FRANKLY, WE
HAD DIFFERENCES IN
OPINIONS ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE
BEING THERE.
WE FEEL ABSOLUTE WE'LL BE
AROUND ANOTHER 56 YEARS
AND PROVIDED THE SAME SERVICES
WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
>> THANK YOU FOR FLAGGING THAT
VICE CHAIR HERBOLD.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO SHARE MY THANKS TO
DEPUTY MAYOR,
DIRECTORS.
WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS EARLIER
THIS WEEK.
MANY THANKS TO YOU ANDREA.
THIS WORK IS INCREDIBLE.
THIS IS A GREAT HISTORIC
CHANGE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR GREAT
WORK.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ALSO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS HERE AS AN
ATTENDEE.
I'LL WELCOME COMMENTS FROM YOU
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> I THINK IT'S SAID BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THIS IS AT THE FOUNDATION OF
HOW WE DO PLACEMENT IN
COMMUNITY BUILDING IN THE CITY
AND JUST A GREAT
EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE NEED A LOT
MORE OF IN OUR URBAN
PLANNING AND INVESTMENT.
SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS TODAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBER LEWIS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE
PROS AND CONS OR
BENEFITS, DISCUSSION THAT MAY
HAVE GONE INTO AN
OUTRIGHT TRANSFER INTO A LONG
TERM LOOSE.
THERE'S SITUATIONS CITIES HAVE
USED 99 YEAR LEASES
INSTEAD OF OUTRIGHT TRANSFER.
I THINK FROM THE LITTLE THAT I
KNOW ABOUT HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT AND GETTING FUTURE
LOANS FOR IMPROVING
EXISTING STRUCTURES TO THE
LENDE A 99 YEAR LEASE
DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE
WHETHER IT'S LONG TERM OR
OUTRIGHT TRANSFER.
ANDREA, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CHIME
IN ON THIS IN TERMS
OF YOUR PREFERENCES.
WONDERING WHAT IS THE
BACKGROUND BEHIND WHETHER OR
NOT WE HAD CONSIDERED A LONG
TERM LEASE SUCH AS 99
YEAR VERSUS DIRECT TRANSFER.
CAN YOU POST COMMENT ON THAT.
IT WAS ABOUT -- .
FOR THE RECORD.
I DIDN'T DISCUSS THE VALUE IN
EITHER ONE OF THOSE.
WE STARTED DOWN THE PATH OF THE
LONG TERM LEASE.
WE REALIZED IN OUR CAMPAIGN
FEASIBILITY STUDY A LOT
OF FOUNDATIONS AND FUNDERS WERE
NOT KEEN TO THAT.
OUR PRIVATE PARTNERS FUNDING
THIS PROJECT WERE OKAY
WITH THAT.
A LOT OF PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS
WERE NOT.
WE DISCUSSED WITH CITY STAFF
OVER TIME.
THE PROS AND CONS OF NOT JUST
CITY BUT THE
COMMUNITY.
EVENTUALLY BIRD BAR PLACE FELT
STRONG.
GIVEN THE IDEA AND PHILOSOPHY
AND AGENCY.
PRIVATE SOURCES TO RENOVATE THE
BUILDING THAT OWNING
THE BUILDING OUT RIGHT WAS FOR
US.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THE OWNERSHIP VERSUS THE 99
YEARS LEASE IS
SOMETHING.
GIVEN A RANGE OF FACTORS
INCLUDING THE
ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY TO TAKE
ON COMMITMENTS.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF
OWNERSHIP AS IT IS CORE
TO BUILDING COMMUNITY WEALTH
AND PRIORITY WITH WHAT
WE TALKED ABOUT NOT JUST IN
THIS PROCESS.
THE DIRECTOR AND HIS PROGRAM
WHICH IS OWNERSHIP OF
ASSET WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO
LEVERAGE OTHER TYPES.
THIS IS A COMPONENT OF HOW WE
THOUGHT ABOUT.
IT'S VERY CLEAR AND OPEN WITH
ORGANIZATIONS
UNDERSTANDING HOW READY ARE
THEY IN TERPS OF
CAPACITY TO MAINTAIN BUILDING
OR THESE TYPES OF
ACTIVITIES.
DIRECTOR, YOU WANT TO ADD TO
THAT?
ONLY TWO THINGS I'LL ADD.
ONE IS I MENTIONED ABOUT THREE
OR FOUR YEARS AGO THE
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS CAME TO
US AND ASKED FOR A
TRANSFER PROCESS.
WHETHER IT'S FIVE STATIONS OR
SIX.
AT THE TIME THE CITY DID NOT
HAVE A CONSISTENT
PROCESS.
THE TRANSFER WAS THE CORE ASK.
WE STARTED ENGAGING THE
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AS
WELL AS CONSULTANTS TO HELP US
SHAPE CONSISTENT
PROCESS.
THE SECOND PART, FOR EXAMPLE ON
THE EDI FUNDING,
BIRD BAR RECEIVED CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT.
THEY CANNOT SPEND IT ON THE
CITY OWNED AT THE SEE THEY'RE
WAITING GET THAT RELEASE MORE
THE EDI FUND.
IF IT'S TRANSFERRED, THEY'RE
ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT.
THAT'S ONE CONSIDERATION FOR
BIRD BAR PLACE.
THEN THE BIGGER EMPHASIS IS
WHAT ANDRE SAID.
THERE'S NO BETTER WEALTH
BUILDING THAN OWNERSHIP.
YOU'RE STILL ACTUALLY NOT AN
OWNER OF A PROPERTY.
ESPECIALLY PROPERTY AS WE LEARN
MORE ABOUT THE
CAUSES OF POVERTY FOR
POPULATIONS.
OWNERSHIP IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT
OF THAT WHETHER
PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND PRACTICALLY
AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS ON THIS
AGENDA ITEM?
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
NO.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
I'M NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
HANDS.
ANDREA, ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR
FEEL YOU GOT ALL YOUR
COMMENTS IN?
I DO.
THANK YOU FOR THE SPACE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT
TO US AND TO OUR
COMMUNITY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
YOU'RE WELCOME ANY TIME TO HAVE
SPACE ON OUR
COMMITTEE AND HAPPY WE'RE
ACTUALLY CREATING FISCAL
SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE
ABLE TO CONTINUE THIS
GOOD WORK.
MARING NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS, I LOVE
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS
PASSAGE OF BILL 119816.
>> SECOND.
>> WONDER.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
HEARING NONE, WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL?
MADAME CHAIR, THAT IS FIVE IN
FAVOR.
>> LET ME DOUBLE CHECK ON
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
ARE YOU AN OFFICIAL MEMBER OF
THE COMMITTEE?
I BELIEVE I AM, MADAME CHAIR.
>> EXCELLENT.
I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT BEING
IN ATTENDANCE AS AN
OBSERVER TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE WE MET.
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
THAT IS A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WE HAVE FIVE AYEs.
WE'LL MOVE THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION TO FULL COUNCIL
FOR THEIR FINAL PASSAGE ON
SEPTEMBER 21st.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CONGRATULATIONS ALL.
LET'S MOVE ON TO SECOND ITEM OF
BUSINESS.
BEFORE WE DO, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS, I HOPE I DIDN'T
OFFEND YOU.
WE'VE BEEN MEET 10:00 LONG.
I SAW YOU WERE LISTENING IN, I
THOUGHT I MISREAD
NOTES.
I APOLOGIZE.
>> NOT AT ALL.
NO APOLOGY.
IT MADE ME THINK, AM I? IT'S
BEEN SUCH A LONG TIME.
>> BEEN A LONG YEAR.
THANK YOU.
>> MY STRATEGY WAS I'M GOING TO
WAIT FOR THE CLERK
TO CALL THE ROLL.
IF SHE CALLS FOR ME, I'LL BE
LIKE I'M ON THIS
COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US ON
TRACK.
THANKS TO THE PRESENTERS.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS.
TELL THE COMMUNITY WHO'S BEEN
WORKING ON IT HOW MUCH
WE APPRECIATE HIM.
>>> LET'S MOVE ON TO SECOND
ITEM OF BUSINESS.
ESTABLISHING MINIMUM LABOR AND
STANDARDS FOR
TRANSPORTATION AND WORK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE WITH US THE OFFICE OF
LABOR STANDARDS AND
CENTRAL STAFF.
WHY DON'T I ASK YOU TO
INTRODUCE YOURSELVES REAL
QUICK WITH YOUR TITLES.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'LL TURN OVER TO CENTRAL
STAFF FOR MATERIALS.
>> HI.
GOOD MORNING.
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
INTERIM DIRECTOR OF OLAS.
>> FROM COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF.
>> AND THIS IS KORENA, AN
ANALYST ON CENTRAL STAFF
AS WELL.
WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANIES AND THE PROTECTIONS
AS IT RELATES TO A
FAIR WAGE FOR THE DRIVERS.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT IN
PUBLIC TESTIMONY TODAY.
BEFORE WE ASK CENTRAL STAFF TO
WALK THROUGH, I
WANTED TO SAY TO DIRECTOR JOHN
AND YOUR TEAM AT
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS HOW
MUCH WE APPRECIATE ALL
OF YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM
INCLUDING SARAH LAIR WHO
WAS A DEAR FRIEND OF MANY OF US
ON COUNCIL.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK
CLOSELY WITH HER ON
FARM AND LABOR STANDARD ISSUES
THE LAST DECADE OR
SO.
HER INCREDIBLE WORK IS A TRUE
LEGACY THAT STANDS ON
ITS OWN.
SHE WAS A PILLAR OF GOOD WORK
AT THE OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS DOES.
YOU CONTINUE HER WORK.
IN HER MEMORY, WE'LL LOOK
TOWARD TO HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION TODAY.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPLIFT ALL
SHE FOUGHT FOR,
ESPECIALLY IMMIGRANTS AND
REFUGEES AND VULNERABLE
WORKER ACROSS OUR STATE AND
ESPECIALLY HERE IN OUR
CITY.
WE THANK THE OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS FOR YOUR GOOD
WORK.
WE SEND OUR HEART OUT AND DEEP
APPRECIATION TO HER
FAMILY AND HER FRIENDS WHO I
KNOW ARE CONTINUING TO
MOURN HER TRAGIC LOSS OF HER
LIFE.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU IN
SOLIDARITY SARAH AND
STAFF.
LET'S CONTINUE WITH.
TELL US MORE ABOUT THE BILL IN
FRONT OF US TODAY.
WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
HEAR FROM OFFICE OF
LABOR STANDARDS AND HER COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES.
>> HI.
AS YOU NOTED, THIS BILL IS
ESTABLISHING A MINIMUM
COMPENSATION STANDARD FOR TNC
DRIVERS ALONG WITH
OTHER PROTECTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE A FULL
PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR
TODAY.
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS HAS
GENEROUSLY OFFERED TO
SHARE THEIR PRESENTATION THAT
THEY'VE ALREADY SHARED
WIH THE COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC FOR THIS
COMMITTEE.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO KAREN
NOW TO PROVIDE THAT
INFORMATION.
>> THANKS.
I'LL LOAD THE POWER POINT UP
HERE.
CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT ALL
RIGHT?
GREAT.
SO I WAS ASKED TO SORT OF GIVE
A QUICK OVERVIEW OF
WHAT'S CONTAINED IN THE
LEGISLATION.
WE PROVIDE A SIMILAR
PRESENTATION LAST MONTH.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF BUT
HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE
DETAIL THAT COUNCILMEMBERS
WOULD LIKE AT ANY POINT.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO LEVEL
SET FOR EVERYONE IS
FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE SEEN THIS
NUMEROUS TIMES NOW.
IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I'LL USE
SOME OF THESE TERMS
TODAY.
DRIVER TIME IS DIVIDED INTO
THREE PHASES.
THERE'S P 1 AVAILABLE PLATFORM
WHEN A DRIVER IS
WAITING TO GET A TRIP REQUEST.
A DRIVER RECEIVE AID TRIP
REQUEST AND IT'S PASSENGER
LOCATION.
FINALLY P 3 WHEN THE DRIVER IS
DRIVING THE PASSENGER
TO THEIR DESTINATION.
THESE TERMS WILL BE IN THE
LEGISLATION ITSELF AND
I'LL BE REFERRING TO THEM
TODAY.
ONE POINT ON THIS IS IT'S
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT
A DRIVER CANNOT BE IN P 3 DOING
THE PART OF THE WORK
WE AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY
AND PASSENGERS
WITHOUT BEING IN P 1 AND P 2.
FURTHER MORE THE COMPANIES RELY
ON DRIVERS BEING IN
P 1 IN ORDER TO DELIVER THEIR
SERVICE TO PASSENGERS.
THEY HAVE LOW WAIT TIMES WHICH
REQUIRES DRIVERS IN P
1. WE THOUGHT IT WAS CRITICAL
TO INSURE DRIVERS ARE
PAID FOR ALL OF THEIR TIME WHEN
THEY WERE WAITING
FOR A PASSENGER, DRIVING TO THE
PASSENGER LOCATION
FINALLY WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING
THE PASSENGER.
SO WITH THAT SORT OF STAGE SET,
LET'S DRIVE INTO THE
ORDINANCE ITSELF.
IT COVERS TNC DRIVERS IN
SEATTLE.
THERE'S A LITTLE KNEW ANSWER
THERE.
IF A RIDE BEGINS IN SEATTLE AND
ENDS OUTSIDE OF
SEATTLE, THE ENTIRE RIDE WILL
BE COVERED BY THE
ORDINANCE.
IF THE RIDE BEGINS OUTSIDE OF
SEATTLE AND COMES INTO
SEATTLE, ONLY THE PORTION OF
THE RIDE THAT IS WITHIN
THE CITY BOUNDARY WILL BE
REQUIRED TO BE PAID AT THE
MINIMUM COMPENSATION LEVEL.
FOR TNCs THEMSELVES, ANY TNC
THAT PROVIDES
SERVICES IN SEAT AND WILL
REPORTS MORE THAN 200,000
RIDES IN THE PRIOR QUARTER WILL
BE COVERED BY THE
ORDINANCE AND TRANSFERRED.
THE PAY POLICY ITSELF IS
DIVIDED INTO TWO
COMPONENTS, A TIME COMPONENT
AND A MILEAGE
COMPONENT.
THERE'S A PERMANENT RATE AND
PER MILE RATE.
THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS
TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS
OF COMPENSATION.
THE FIRST ONE, TIME IS
COMPENSATION FOR SEATTLE'S
MINIMUM WAGE AT 16.39
CURRENTLY.
THE MILEAGE COMPONENT IS
DESIGNED TO COMPENSATE FOR
THE REASONABLE EXPENSES DRIVERS
INCUR WHICH IS BOTH
THE COST OF JUST DRIVING A CAR
AROUND TO COST OF
VEHICLE, GAS, MAINTENANCE,
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS
WELL AS WHAT WE CALL NONMILEAGE
EXPENSES.
THESE ARE BENEFITS OR COSTS
THAT MANY EMPLOYEES HAVE
COMPENSATION FOR.
HEALTH INSURANCE AND EMPLOYER
PAYROLL TAXES ARE
EXAMPLES AS WELL AS OTHER TAXES
AND LICENSING FEES
úTHAT DRIVERS MUST INCUR.
THOSE ARE THE TWO COMPONENTS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY MEAN
IN TERMS OF NUMBERS.
I MENTIONED TIME COMPONENT OF
MINIMUM WAGE 16.39
MADE INTO A PERMANENT AMOUNT.
THAT'S 56-CENTS.
THE MILEAGE IS $1.17.
THERE'S COMPLEXITY HERE.
IF YOU TAKE $16.39 AND DIVIDE
BY 60, IT EQUALS
27-CENTS.
BECAUSE THE PAY STANDARD ONLY
ATTACHES TO THE TIME
SPENT IN P 3 WHEN A DRIVER HAS
A PASSENGER, WE HAVE
INCREASED THE 27-CENT AMOUNT TO
COVER ALL OF THEIR
WORKING TIME P 1 AND P 2. THE
FACTOR OF INCREASE IS ROUGHLY
2X.
THEY SPEND HALF THE TIME WITH A
PASSENGER IN THE
CAR.
WE INCREASE TO MAKE SURE
THEY'RE PAID FOR ALL THEIR
TIME.
SAME PRINCIPLE FOR MILEAGE.
THE FACTOR OF INCREASE IS
DIFFERENT.
THE SAME IDEA IS PRESENT THERE
AS WELL.
THAT'S THE CORE OF HOW THE PAY
POLICY WORKS.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER
PROTECTIONS IN THERE TO
INSURE THIS FUNCTIONS WELL.
I HIGHLIGHTED THEM HERE.
WE HAVE TIP PROTECTION SO THAT
ANY TIP PAID BY THE
PASSENGER NEEDS TO GO TO THE
DRIVER.
THEY CANNOT USE TIPS.
CANCELLATION FEES CHARGED TO A
PASSENGER GOES TO THE
DRIVER.
WE ALSO HAVE TRANSPARENCY
PROVISIONS, SUCH THAT BOTH
DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS RECEIVED
DETAILED RIDE
RECEIPTS AND THAT DRIVERS GET
PAY STATEMENTS EVERY
TIME THEY ARE PAID DETAILING
WHAT TRIPS THEY DID AND
WHAT THEY WERE PAID.
WE HAVE A STANDARD
RECORDKEEPING PROVISION OF
THREE
YEARS AND PROPOSED EFFECTIVE
DATE OF JANUARY 1st,
2021.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE
NEXT TWO IN DETAIL.
THEY'RE HERE IN CASE THERE ARE
QUESTIONS.
WE CAN CIRCLE BACK.
WE MODELED A NUMBER OF TRIPS
AND WHAT DRIVERS MAKE
NOW.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE LISTED HERE,
DOWNTOWN TO CAPITOL
HILL, AIRPORT TRIPS, ENTER
DOWNTOWN AND U DISTRICT.
WE COMPARE THE CURRENT PAY WITH
WHAT THEY SHOULD
MAKE UNDER THE PAY STANDARD TO
GIVE US A REAL WORLD
EXAMPLE OF THAT.
THE FINAL SLIDE HERE JUST
MODELS WHAT DRIVER AVERAGE
PAY WAS PRIOR TO THE COVID.
WE DID OUR EVALUATION BEFORE
COVID.
AVERAGE PAY WAS UNDER THE PAY
POLICY.
IT SHOULD GO UP TO ABOUT A 30%
INCREASE.
84% OF DRIVERS RECEIVE 9 SOME
SORT OF INCREASE.
SO I KNOW THAT WAS QUITE A LOT
AND QUICKLY.
I WANTED TO MOVE THROUGH
QUICKLY AND OPEN FOR ANY
QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING HELPFUL
TO GO INTO THE GREATER
DETAIL.
OKAY.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK AND
THE PRESENTATION
TODAY.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE KORENA
AND AMY YOU'D LIKE TO
SHARE?
I'LL JUST ADD THE LEGISLATION
IS COMPREHENSIVE AND
HAS A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL
STANDARDS AND
REQUIREMENTS.
JUST A COUPLE THAT I'LL LIFT UP
IS THAT EVERY YEAR
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AUTOMATIC
ADJUSTS AND SOME
DISCRETIONARY ADJUSTMENTS TO
FIGURES AND ORDNANCE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE PERMANENT
AMOUNT THAT IS TIED TO
THE MINIMUM WAGE OF COURSE WILL
INCREASE
AUTOMATICALLY TO ALIGN WITH
SEATTLE'S MINIMUM WAGE.
THERE'S A PER MILE RATE THAT IS
SCALED UP AS USING
THE TERM.
IT'S A UTILIZATION RATE.
IT MEANS THE SAME THING.
THAT PER MILE RATE CAN BE
ADJUSTED BY THE DIRECTOR
AND DISCRETIONARY BASIS.
IF IT'S NOT ADJUSTED ON A
DISCRETIONARY BASIS, IT
WILL INCREASE AUTOMATICALLY TO
REFLECT THE RATE ON
INFLATION.
THERE'S ALSO A DISCRETIONARY
DECISION FOR THE
DIRECTOR TO INCREASE THE SCALE
UP FACTOR AS WELL.
OF COURSE PENALTIES AND FINES
WILL BE INCREASED TO
REPRESENT RATE OF INFLATION AS
WELL.
THE NEXT PIECE IS THAT THE
LEGISLATION PROVIDES FOR
PROVISION OF PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND
DISINFECTING SUPPLIES.
THAT'S IN ADDITION TO MODEST
ALLOWANCE FOR CLEANING
ALREADY IN REASONABLE EXPENSES
PER MILE RATE AS
WELL.
>> WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS AT THIS
POINT.
SORRY.
I'M TRYING TO MANAGE TOO MANY
SCREENS HERE.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT
WHAT YOU ENVISION AS
OUR COMMITTEE PROCESS MOVING
FORWARD ON
DELIBERATIONS ON THIS BILL.
>> WONDER.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> AS IT ARES TO THE NEXT
STEPS, WE ARE HOPING THAT
WE ARE ABLE TO GET ANY
DECISIONLE COMMENTS AND
QUESTIONS, ANY AMENDMENT IDEAS
FROM FOLKS.
REMIND ME OF THE DEADLINE WE
WERE HOPING FOR LATER
THIS WEEK I BELIEVE.
>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE
ESTABLISHED A DEADLINE FOR
AMENDMENTS.
THINKING THE NEXT COMMITTEE
MEETING WILL BE NEXT
THURSDAY.
I WOULD SAY MAYBE THURSDAY
MIDDAY.
>> GREAT.
THURSDAY MIDDAY.
THE FOLLOWING WEEK, THEY COULD
BE TEED UP FOR
DISCUSSION AND IN
CONSIDERATION.
>> I WILL NOTE THERE'S
CONVERSATIONS WE'LL HAVE
AFTER TALKING WITH FOLKS FROM
THE ASSOCIATION, LYFT,
TEAMSTERS.
I'M LOOKING WILLING FORWARD TO
BRINGING FORWARD
EMITS STILL BEING CRAFTED.
THERE COULD BE A SUBSTITUTE TO
LOOK AT LIKE A WHOLE
PACKAGE.
JUST SO YOU COULD SEE THE FULL
PICTURE OF HOW PIECES
SWEAR CHANGE TOGETHER.
>> THIS IS HELPFUL.
WE MEAN SUBSTITUTE BILL OR ARE
YOU SAYING THERE'S
GOING TO BE ONE AMENDMENT THAT
IS LIKE ALL THE
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS?
IT WOULD BASICALLY BE A ROLL UP
OF VARIOUS
AMENDMENTS I'M HEARING ABOUT.
IT WOULD BE A LIST OF
AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD IN
EFFECT, TELL ME IF I'M SAYING
THIS WRONG BE A
SUBSTITUTE TO OUR EXISTING
BILL.
YOU WOULD SEE ALL THE
AMENDMENTS IN ONE PLACE.
>> GOT IT.
>> THAT SUBSTITUTE, WOULD IT
-- DO YOU ENVISION IT
NEEDING A TITLE CHANGE?
NO.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT
BOTH FOLKS FROM
COMMUNITY PARTNERS HAVE RAISED
AND COUNCIL MEMBERS
HAVE RAISED.
I ENCOURAGE US TO TRY TO LEAVE
THE TITLE AS IS.
IF THERE'S A CORRESPONDING
PIECE OF LEGISLATION
SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER
THAT COMPLIMENT THIS IS,
THAT WOULD BE WELCOME.
AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK WE
WOULD WANT TO
REDRAFT THE BILL.
WE WOULD WANT TO WORK IN THE
CONFINES OF THE TITLE.
IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL PIECES
PEOPLE THINK WOULD FIT
NICELY, I WOULD WELCOME THAT
CONVERSATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
I'LL MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
PLEASE GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
>> I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
PIECE OF
LEGISLATION.
WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR MINIMUM
WAGE HELD ACROSS ALL
PLATFORMS.
THIS BILL IS ALSO AS I HEARD
BRINGING FORWARD
IMPORTANT TRANSPARENCIES SO THE
DRIVER UNDERSTANDS
WHAT THE PASSENGER IS PAYING
AND HOW ALL COSTS ARE
ACCUMULATED THROUGHOUT THIS
TYPE OF BUSINESS.
THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THIS
COMMITTEE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROCESS
AS IT CONTINUES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS.
I'LL OFFER A FEW COMMENTS TO
THE PUBLIC.
IF IT SEEMS LIKE WE TALK ABOUT
YOU CANNER AND LYFT
AND OTHER RIDE SHARE COMPANIES
FOR A LONG TIME, THAT
IS TRUE.
WE TALK ABOUT THESE BECAUSE AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
DISCUSSED, THE GIG ECONOMY IS
NOT A SLITHER OF THE
ECONOMY.
IT IS THE ECONOMY.
WE THINK ABOUT WAYS SEATTLE CAN
REALLY APPLY OUR
LABOR STANDARDS TO
NONTRADITIONAL WORK IN SECTORS
WHERE WE'VE SEEN GIG WORK
CONTINUE TO GROW AND
EXPAND, WANTING TO MAKE SURE
THE STRONG LABOR
STANDARDS AND PRINCIPALS WE
HAVE FOR PROTECTING
WORKERS IS CRITICAL.
YES, IT DOES SEEM WE CAN
CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS
ISSUE.
I DESCRIBED THIS ON MONDAY
DURING COUNCIL BRIEFING.
THIS IS ANOTHER ELEMENT TO THE
CONVERSATIONS WE HAD
LAST YEAR AND OTHER STRATEGIES
THAT WE ADVANCED
EARLIER THIS YEAR TO MAKE SURE
FOLKS WORKING IN GIG
TYPE WORK HAVE TRUE PROTECTIONS
SO THEY CAN -- AS
ONE OF THE SPOKE PEOPLE SAID
TODAY DURING PUBLIC
TESTIMONIES THEY CAN PUT FOOD
ON THE TABLE AND KEEP
A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD.
AROUND THE CORNER FROM WHERE I
LIVE, I OFTEN SEE
MINI CARS THAT LOOK LIKE BLACK
CAR DRIVERS, THE NICE
LINCOLNS THAT ARE SITTING
THERE.
I BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN
THEM.
IT'S IMPERATIVE TO MAKE SURE
PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR
LIFE'S WORK INTO PROVIDING A
SERVICE AT LEAST HAVE A
MINIMUM WAGE.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS EFFORT
IS TRYING TO DO.
JUST FOR BACKGROUND IN 2014,
THE CITY BEGAN
REGULATING TNC BY REQUIRING
LICENSING.
SINCE THEN THE CITY COUNCIL
DISCUSSED AND PASSED A
NUMBER OF POLICIES INCLUDIG
THOSE REQUIRING DATA
DISCLOSURE, PROTECTING THE
RIGHTS OF WORKERS AND
MORE.
THESE POLICIES WERE MET WITH
FIERCE LOBBYING AND
LITIGATION AND DID NOT STICK.
LAST FALL THE CITY PASSED A
SERIES OF LEGISLATION
REQUIRING A PROCESS FOR DRIVERS
DEACTIVATION SO THAT
DRIVERS THAT SPEND THEIR LIFE
SAVINGS ON A CAR AND
EXPERIENCE CAN'T BE DEACTIVATED
WITHOUT AT LEAST A
PROCESS.
WE ALSO PASSED A RESOLUTION TO
STUDY ADEQUATE BASE
WAGES FOR DRIVERS.
THIS YEAR UNDER THE LEADERSHIP,
WE HAVE A STUDY AS
WELL AS LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS
FOR BASE WAGES HERE.
MANY OF YOU RECEIVED A BRIEFING
ABOUT THIS
LEGISLATION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THERE.
SINCE A FEW OF US WERE NOT
THERE FOR A -- SINCE A
FEW OF US HAD ADDITIONAL FEW
WEEKS BETWEEN THOSE
CONVERSATIONS AND TODAY, I
THINK THIS RECAP HAS BEEN
EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
FOLKS HAVE PLENTY OF
TIME TO REVIEW ANY AMENDMENTS.
ANY AMENDMENTS WE RECEIVE,
WE'LL MAKE SURE AND SEND
THOSE OUT.
THE AMENDMENTS I'M CONSIDERING
DRAFTING, WE'LL MAKE
SURE FOLKS GET THAT WELL IN
ADVANCE OF OUR KEPT
24th MEETING.
WE HOPE TO VOTE ON A REVISED
BILL.
IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL
AMENDMENTS, WE'LL RECONCILE
THOSE AND MAKE SURE TO SHARE IT
AS EARLY AS
POSSIBLE.
MY HOPE IS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE
TO CONTINUE TO
SOLICIT NOT JUST YOUR FEEDBACK
BUT FROM UBER, LYFT,
TEAMSTERS, DRIVE GUARD AS WE
HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL OF THE
COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS
THAT CAME TODAY.
YES, CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE
COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
GO AHEAD.
>> I'M SO SORRY.
I MENTIONED I WAS JUGGLING
SCREENS.
ONE OF THE SCREENS WAS THE
NOTES FOR THIS MEETINGS.
I WANT TO SIGNAL MY INTEREST IN
AMENDMENTS TO
ADDRESS A COUPLE ISSUES THAT I
UNDERSTAND YOU CHAIR
MOSQUEDA HAVE INTERESTS IN.
ONE OF THOSE IS TO STRENGTHEN
THE TRANSPARENCY
REQUIREMENTS AND THE BILL SO
THAT RIDERS AND DRIVERS
KNOW HOW MUCH EACH IS PAYING
AND BEING PAID.
THEN ALSO WE RECEIVED AN
IMPORTANT LETTER REGARDING
THE HEALTH CARE AND CLEANING
PRACTICES THAT ARE
NECESSARY DURING COVID-19 FROM
AN ACADEMIC WHO HAS
BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT
ISSUE ACROSS THE WORK
BEING DONE BY ESSENTIAL WORKERS
AND VERY INTERESTED
IN ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE
COMPENSATING PEOPLE FOR THE
COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
MAINTAINING THEIR VEHICLES IN
ACCORDANCE WITH PRACTICES
INCLUDING THE TIME.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER LEWIS AND I
WORKED ON AS IT RELATED TO
PREMIUM PAY OR FOOD
DELIVERY DRIVERS.
I'M INTERESTED IN ADDRESSING
THAT AS IT RELATES TO
TNC DRIVERS AS WELL AS IN THIS
LEGISLATION MOVING
FORWARD.
>> I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT EFFORTS
AND LOOK FORWARD TO
MAKING SURE WE GET AMENDMENT
LANGUAGE THAT COMES OUT
SO IT REFLECTS YOUR PRIORITIES
AS WELL BEFORE
EVERYTHING IS FINALIZED ON
THURSDAY,
SEPTEMBER 24th.
WE WILL BE LOOKING AT
ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE RELATED TO
ISSUES AROUND TRANSPARENCY AND
PRICING MECHANISMS,
ADDING IN LABOR STANDARDS THAT
MANY OTHER WORKERS
RECEIVED AND PROVIDING STABLE
WAGES FOR DRIVERS.
I THINK ALL OF THAT IS
COMPLIMENTARY TO THE EXISTING
BASE LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US
AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH YOU COUNCIL AND
VICE CHAIR HERBOLD AND
ANY OTHER MEMBERS LOOKING TO
BRING PRINCIPLES
FORWARD TO STREAMLINE OUR
CONVERSATION AGAIN.
THYME GOING TO TRY TO SEE HOW
MANY WE CAN MERGE INTO
ONE LARGER DOCUMENT.
WE'LL WELCOME AT THAT
DISCUSSION.
I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION
BEFORE WE WRAP UP
TODAY'S DISCUSSION.
FOR OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS,
I THINK THIS WILL BE
A QUESTION FOR YOU.
ONE THING WE HEARD FROM THE TNC
OPERATORS THAT THE
WAGE FORMULA TRANSMITTED LOOKS
SIMILAR TO THE NEW
YORK MODEL AND LIMITED THE
NUMBER OF DRIVERS ON THE
APP.
I ASSUME THIS MEANS THE DRIVERS
ON THE APP WERE
GETTING MORE HOURS AND SOME
WERE LESS LIKELY TO BE
FORCED TO HAVE A SECOND OR
THIRD JOB.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH HOW THE
LEGISLATION
ADDRESSES THAT CONCERN AROUND P
1 TIME AND NUMBER OF
DRIVERS ON THE APP?
YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S HEALTHY TO DIVE
INTO THAT.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT THERE THE
WAY THE NEW YORK
POLICY WORKS, YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT AIMS TO KEEP DRIVERS BUSIER
SO TO SPEAK AND
INCREASE THEIR PAY.
I WANT TO DRAW A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN DIFFERENT
POLICY REASONS THERE WOULD BE A
REDUCTION IN DRIVERS
ON THE PLATFORM.
ONE IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE
COMPANY.
SENT A LETTER TO COUNCIL THAT
THERE'S A NEW YORK
POLICY OF MONITORING HOW BUSY
DRIVERS ARE AND THAT
RESULTED.
THAT'S ONE AREA.
THE OTHER KIND OF AREA OF
ARGUMENTS IS SIMILAR TO
STUFF WE'VE HEARD BEFORE THE
SEATTLE PASSED THE
MINIMUM WAGE ORDNANCE THAT
INCREASING WAGES FOR
COMPENSATION RESULTS IN
REDUCTION OF EMPLOYMENT AND
NUMBER OF WORKERS.
THOSE ARGUMENTS WERE MADE BY IN
LARGE HAVEN'T BEEN
BORN OUT.
WE HAD RECORD LOW UNEMPLOYMENT
IN SEATTLE BEFORE
COVID.
I THINK THIS VALUES SETTING A
MINIMUM QUARANTINE SO
NOBODY FALLS BELOW THAT IN
CONTRAST TO MAXIMIZING
EMPLOYMENT AT THE EXPANSIVE
RACE TO THE BOTTOM IN
TERMS OF WAGES.
WHAT POLICY DOES IS CREATE A
GUARANTEE OF LIVING
WAGE.
84% OF DRIVERS CONTINUE RECEIVE
THAT NOW.
IT SETS A MINIMUM PER MINUTE
RATE.
IT DOES NOT REQUIRE MONITORING
OF HOW BUSY DRIVERS
ARE ANY POLICY CHOICE BY THE
COMPANIES TO REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF DRIVERS ON THE
PLATFORM WOULD BE TIED MORE
TO THAT SECOND BUCKET OF
ARGUMENT THEY HAVE CHOSEN
AS A WAY OF IMPLEMENTING TO
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
WORKERS THAN TO SAY OTHER
POLICY CHOICES LIKE
REDUCING COMMISSIONS TO ADDRESS
THAT.
I WANT TO SAY DISTINCTIONS
BETWEEN SEAT AND WILL NEW
YORK.
IN THE REGULATORY BUCKET, THEY
HAVE A CAP ON THE
NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT CAN BE
LICENSED AT ALL.
THEY HAD A REALLY RAPID INFLUX
OF NEW DRIVERS
RESULTING IN 3000 DRIVERS PER
MONTH AND TOTAL OF
200,000 PRIOR TO THEIR POLICY
BEING IMPLEMENTED.
SEATTLE POLICY DOES NOT REQUIRE
A MONITORING OF HOW
BUSY DRIVERS ARE FOR OVER A
YEAR OR PERHAPS LONGER.
IT REQUIRES WE PROVIDE TO THE
COMPANY BEFORE WE DO
ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE
COMPANIES TO LIMIT THE
NUMBER OF DRIVERS BASED ON HOW
BUSY DRIVERS ARE.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS
POLICY.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE
QUESTION.
>> THAT'S HELPFUL.
IF YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP ON THE
NEW YORK EXAMPLE WE
MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH
OTHER COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES, THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL IF THEY'RE NOT
ABLE TO LISTEN IN ON THIS
PRESENTATION.
WE'LL SHARE WITH THEM THE POWER
POINT PRESENTATION
YOU SHARED SO THAT EVERYBODY
HAS THE SAME
INFORMATION.
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION.
VICE CHAIR, GO AHEAD.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION.
AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED
WITH MY OFFICE RELATES
TO REGULATIONS RELATED TO THE
CONDITION OF VEHICLES.
CAN ANYBODY FROM LOS OR KORENA
SPEAK TO HOW THE
LEGISLATION HAS PROPOSED
ADDRESSES THAT ISSUE
MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR VEHICLE
CONDITIONS OR VEHICLE
AGE I THINK IS ONE OF THE
ISSUES?
YEAH.
THE ORDNANCE DOES NOT ADDRESS
IT.
I THINK THAT IS SORT OF OUTSIDE
EXPERTISE.
THAT PROPERLY FALLS MORE WITHIN
FAS.
MAYBE THERE'S A WAY FOR THE
ORDNANCE TO ADDRESS IT.
FAS ADMINISTERING IT.
THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
THE SHORT ANSWER IS THAT THE
ORDNANCE DOES NOT
CONTAIN REGULATION OF VEHICLE
AGE.
THANK YOU.
>> YEAH SO I AGREE.
THE LEGISLATION DOESN'T
REGULATE WHAT AGE THE
VEHICLE NEEDS TO BE.
I'LL ADD THAT IN THE
CALCULATION OF THE REASONABLE
EXPENSES, RESEARCHERS WERE
ABLE.
THEY CALCULATED AN AMOUNT THAT
IS BASED ON 48 MONTH
LOAN FOR A VEHICLE AND THEY'RE
ASSUMING THE AVERAGE
LIFE SPAN OF A VEHICLE IS FOUR
YEARS.
SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT
THEIR CALCULATION OF
THE PER MILE COST FOR
REASONABLE EXPENSES INCLUDES A
PURCHASE OR LOAN OF A NEW CAR
EVERY FOUR YEARS.
IS THAT ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT
IT?
THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY DID ASSUME HOW LONG A
VEHICLE IS ON THE
PLATFORM.
I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION.
I'VE ALWAYS HEARD CONCERNS FROM
DRIVERS THERE'S A
CUTOFF THEY'RE NO LONGER TO
ALLOWED TO DRIVE A
VEHICLE.
IF THEY'VE INVESTED THE SAME
AMOUNT OF MONEY AND
PURCHASED WHEN TWO YEARS OLD.
THEY'RE FORCED.
THAT ISSUE IS NOT ADDRESSED IN
THE ORDNANCE.
YES, THERE'S AN AVERAGE LENGTH
UBER DRIVERS TO HAVE
A VEHICLE AFTER WHICH THE
VEHICLE CAN NOT --
DOESN'T HAVE RESIDUAL VALUE AND
HIS CAR ISN'T
RELIABLE ENOUGH TO DRIVE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER.
THIS ISING AND I'M INTERESTED
IN AS WELL.
AS YOU CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT
ISSUE, PLEASE KEEP
ME UPDATED.
I KNOW THIS IS A REAL ISSUE AS
I MENTIONED.
UBER BLACK CARS APPEAR TO BE
AROUND THE CORNER WITH
FOLKS NOT HAVING THE ABOUT TO
KEEP THE ROOF OVER
THEIR HEAD IS PROBLEMATIC.
THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PAY FOR A
HOUSE OR FOOD ON THE
TABLE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT
CREATING -- WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ABOUT TO
KEEP THEIR CAR AND
THEIR HOUSE AND FOOD.
COUNCILMEMBERS, ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
ONE QUESTION RELATED TO THE
STUDY I HEARD LAST WEEK
FROM LYFT, THEIR STUDY DO WE
KNOW IF LYFT PROVIDED
DRIVERS OR DATA TO THE CITY OR
RESEARCHERS TO
INCORPORATE?
THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.
THEY DID NOT PROVIDE DATA.
BEFORE LAUNCHING IT'S STUDY
ENGAGED THE COMPANIES
ASKED FOR DATA, HOW LONG EACH
TRIP IS AND WHAT THE
PAY WAS.
THE COMPANY'S DECLINE, STATING
PRIVACY CONCERNS.
IT DID GIVE US DATA.
UBER DID.
THEN THEY PROVIDED THAT TRIP
LEVEL DATA TO CORNELL.
WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THE STUDY
ROUGHLY TWO WEEKS
BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED.
IT WAS RELEASED THE SAME DAY,
ROUGHLY AS OUR STUDY.
BECAUSE OF OUR TIME LINE, WE
COULD NOT DIRECTLY
INCORPORATE THAT ANALYSIS INTO
OUR STUDY.
WE STILL HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED
WITH THE UNDERLYING
DATA.
WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE OF
COURSE TAKEN REVIEWS OF
THE STUDY IN-DEPTH.
I HAVE BEEN ON CALLS WITH THE
STUDY'S AUTHORS AND
RESEARCH TEAM AT CORNELL IT'S
SOMETHING WE'RE
CONSIDERING IN OUR OWN POLICY
DEVELOPMENT.
WE WERE NOT PROVIDED THE
UNDERLYING DATA DURING OUR
OWN STUDY PROCESS OR MADE AWARE
THE STUDY WAS EVEN
BEING CONDUCTED.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
AGAIN, THIS WILL BE IN FRONT OF
US NEXT OPPORTUNITY
WILL BE THURSDAY SEPTEMBER
24th.
AS YOU HEARD FROM CENTRAL
STAFF, THE DESIRE WOULD BE
AMENDMENTS TO CENTRAL STAFF BY
NOON ON THURSDAY.
DID I GET THAT RIGHT?
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US
ON THAT TIME LINE.
I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY
AGAIN TO THANK THE
OFFICE OF STANDARDS, HARD WORK
ON THIS LEGISLATION.
THE PARTNERS INCLUDING
TEAMSTERS, LYFT, UBER, RIDE
SHARE ASSOCIATION, DRIVE
FORWARD.
I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
PROVIDING INPUT OVER THE
LAST YEAR PLUS.
THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT'S GONE
INTO BRINGING THE
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US.
LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING
AMENDMENTS TO FOLKS SOON SO
WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION
ON THE 24th AND
IDEALLY VOTE IT OUT.
WE'LL ALSO BE CONSIDERING THE
LOYAL HEIGHTS PROP
TRANSFER.
THOSE ARE WHAT INCORPORATES OUR
AGENDA TODAY.
WE MAY HAVE ONE LEGISLATION
ASKED OF US.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE.
ANY ADDITIONAL RENT MANIES OR
QUESTIONS FOR THE GOOD
OF THE ORDER?
HEARING NONE, WE GOT THROUGH
THIS IN TWO HOURS.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.
IT SEEMS LIKE A SHORT MEETING
COMPARED TO SOME OTHER
MARATHON MEETINGS WE'VE HAD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOPE EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE, ABLE
TO BE INDOORS AND
FR THOSE IN SHELTERS THAT
YOU'RE ABLE TO GET INTO
SOME SAFE AIR SPACES OUT THERE.
WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK
AND EVERYBODY STAY
SAFE.
WE'LL SEE YOU ON THURSDAY, THE
24th AT 2:00 P.M.
WITH THAT, THE MEETING IS
ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.