>> AND THE RECESS SELECT BOEING
MEET WILLING NOW COME BACK TO
ORDER.
AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE
BUSINESS ON TODAY'S CALENDAR.
THE TIME IS 2:03 P.M.
I'M TERESA MOSQUEDA.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> HERE.
>> SAWANT.
>> HERE.
>> STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> HERE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> JUAREZ.
>> HERE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> LEWIS.
>> PRESENT.
CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> HERE.
>> AND COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> HERE, THANK YOU.
>> 9 PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WE ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ON
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. AND
WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR OUR
CENTRAL, TO WALK US THROUGH
THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
I'M GOING TO ASK DAN FROM, TO
EXPLAIN THE PROCESS.
AND WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO HAVE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT
THE AMENDMENTS IN FRONT OF US
AS WE CONTINUE OUR AND BEGIN
LOOKING AT SPD BUDGET
AMENDMENTS.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE ITEM 4 IN
FRONT OF US.
PLEASE READ ITEM 4 INTO THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 4. REVIEW OF
PROPOSED SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT RELATED AMENDMENTS
TO THE 2020 PACKAGE FOR
BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION ONLY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM DAN
DAN EIDER.
>> THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND
RESOLUTIONS IN FRONT OF US FOR
CONVERSATION AND WILL BE
DISCUSSED ON MONDAY THE THIRD
AND WEDNESDAY THE 5th.
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AN
OVERVIEW ABOUT THE RESOLUTIONS
AND THEN WE'LL WALK THROUGH
EACH OF THE AMENDMENTS AND MAKE
SURE THEY ARE RECORDED AND
SUMMARIZED TO UNDERSTAND THE
EFFECTS OF EACH AMENDMENT.
WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TO EACH AMENDMENT.
AND COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WILL
HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS
OF BOTH THE SPONSOR AND CENTRAL
STAFF.
I'M GOING TO ASK MEMBERS IF
THEY WOULD WISH TO CO-SPONSOR
AN AMENDMENT LIKE WE HAVE IN
THE PAST.
YOU CAN INDICATE YOUR INTEREST
BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND I WILL
SUMMARIZE THE NUMBER OF
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO ADD
THEIR NAME AS COSPONSORS.
MY INTENT IS THAT WE'LL HAVE A
SET OF AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE
THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED FOR OUR
CONSIDERATION ON AUGUST 5th.
WELL VIDEO AUGUST 5th AND THE
MORNING OF AUGUST 10th TO
FINALIZE OUR DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTES.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE 35 AMENDMENTS
TO GET THROUGH TODAY.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
CONTINUE MOVING AT A FAST PACE
AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS HAS
BEEN A VERY LONG WEEK AND GIVEN
THAT WE HAVE MONDAY MORNING.
I WILL TRY TO END EXACTLY AT
5:00 AND FIND A GOOD ENDING
POINT AROUND THAT TIME.
BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH OPENING
COMMENTS ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS IN
FRONT OF US?
OKAY.
>> MADAM CHAIR.
>> GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD 2 THINGS.
DON'T WE HAVE 39 AMENDMENTS IN
FRONT OF US?
>> IT COULD BE 39.
MY APOLOGIES.
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
>> WE'RE GOING TO, I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING AT THE
RIGHT SHEET.
SO WE'RE STARTING WITH THE
DISCUSSION OF THE RESOLUTION
AND THEN I MIGHT SAVE MY
COMMENTS BUT I'D LIKE TO STATE
FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AND
THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST ANYONE,
THE 39 AMENDMENTS AND ALL OF
THIS INFORMATION WAS TIME
STAMPED AT 1:20 THIS MORNING.
AND THEN I GOT, STARTED GETTING
THE HARD COPIES ABOUT 8:30.
SO I'M GOING TO BE HARD PRESSED
WHEN WE GET TO THE 39 POTENTIAL
SPD RELATED AMENDMENTS TO SHARE
WHETHER OR NOT I CAN COSPONSOR.
I TRIED TO READ IT QUICKLY
DURING OUR BREAK.
THE BOX WAS DELIVERED TO ME.
I THINK THAT WE NEED FOR THE
LISTENING PUBLIC THAT IT ISN'T
LIKE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE DAYS TO
LOOK AT THESE.
WE JUST GOT THEM AND I JUST
WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
>> I THINK IT'S 38 AMENDMENTS
BUT THE POINT ABOUT CONCERNS
ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE THE
INFORMATION, I APPRECIATE YOU
SIGNALING THAT.
WE ARE ALWAYS HAPPY TO SIGNAL
FOR STAFF INCLUDING ON MONDAY.
I BELIEVE THAT THE MATERIALS
WERE SENT YESTERDAY LATE IN THE
EVENING AND THAT'S THE TIME
STAMP THAT I HAVE BUT YOUR
POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
THIS IS A PROCESS IN WHICH WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE
HAS THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THE
MATERIALS, GET FEEDBACK, AND
MAKE DECISIONS AS WE MOVE
FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SUMMARIZE HOW
WE GOT HERE FOR MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC IF FOR OUR COLLEAGUES
BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT AS WE ENGAGE IN THESE
CONVERSATIONS CONTINUE TO
REMIND OURSELVES HOW WE GOT
HERE AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS
REALLY ABOUT.
WE STARTED THE SPD BUDGET IN
JUNE.
WE HAD A DESIRE TO BREAK OPEN
THE BLACK BOX OF THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
HISTORICALLY, THE ACTIONS OF
THIS SPRING WAS THE MURDER OF
GEORGE FLOYD COMPELLED THIS
COUNCIL TO WANT TO GET
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT
ALL OF THE DOLLARS GOING INTO
THE SPD BOX, INCLUDING WHERE
THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS
PERFORMING HEALTH AND SAFETY
AND WHERE WICKED INVEST IN
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO
SECURE THE COMMUNITY'S TRUST IN
PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE BEGAN IN EARLY JUNE AND HAVE
HAD 7 HEARINGS ON THE ISSUE.
WE HEARD FROM OTHER CITIES,
NATIONAL RESEARCH
ORGANIZATIONS, AND FROM
COMMUNITY COALITIONS LIKE
DECRIMINALIZE SEATTLE.
WHILE THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN
HELPFUL IN CASTING LIGHT ON
THIS SPD BUDGET IT HAS BEEN AN
STUNT HOW WE RESPOND TO THE
CALL FOR GREATER PUBLIC SAFETY,
GREATER COMMUNITY RESILIENCE
AND GREATER COMMUNITY SECURITY
AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THERE ARE MODELS THAT WE HAVE
LOOKED AT ACROSS THE NATION AND
IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD
WHERE WE'VE SEEN INVESTMENTS.
STRATEGIES THAT INVEST IN
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY TO RE-
ENVISION OR IMAGINE WHAT
COMMUNITY SAFETY COULD LOOK
LIKE.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE ASKING THE SAME
QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE.
HOW CAN WE ENSURE COMMUNITY
SAFETY?
INCLUDING OVERPOLICING OVER THE
YEARS.
WE HAVE WATCHED BLACK
AMERICANS' LIVES TAKEN ON VIDEO
OVER AND OVER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
AND WHEN I WAS ASKED WHAT MAKES
THIS DIFFERENT, THERE'S AN
UPSWELLING ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
NOT JUST IN SEATTLE.
ACROSS THE WORLD DEMANDING US
TO HEAR THE VOICE OF FOCUS IN
THE STREET AND ACT WITH URGENCY
AND COMPASSION AND A SENSE OF,
YOU KNOW, THE URGENCY THAT HAS
NOT BEEN APPLIED IN THE PAST.
THAT WE'RE CREATING MEANING.
AND LASTING CHANGE.
BUDGETS ARE OFTEN DESCRIBED AS
MORAL DOCUMENTS AND WHILE WE'RE
IN THE MIDST OF THE REBALANCING
PACKAGE AND THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT A
DECREASE IN REVENUE AND ADDRESS
THE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
WE HAVE TAKEN THIS MOMENT TO
DISCUSS THE DEATHS OF BLACK AND
BROWN INDIVIDUALS OVER AND OVER
CAUGHT ON CAMERA.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
THAT WE ARE STEPPING UP TO
ADDRESS.
I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS
THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST 2
MONTHS.
WE ARE NOT ACCEPTING THE STATUS
QUO.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE LIVES
TAKEN ON CAMERA OR OFF CAMERA
AND HEAR STORIES ABOUT UNARMED
INDIVIDUALS MEETING ARMED
FORCES.
AND WE UNDERSTAND IT'S
IMPORTANT TO REINVESTMENT IN
TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT STRATEGIC STRATEGIES TO
MOVE FOLKS INTO DIFFERENT
DEPARTMENTS OR INTO THE
COMMUNITY TO INVESTMENT IN
PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU
FOLKS FOR THE TIME AND
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WHO
CALLED IN WITH DIVERSE
PERSPECTIVE T. WE ARE
APPRECIATE AND FOR YOUR
FEEDBACK AND IDEAS WE HAVE
TRIED TO RESPOND TO THOSE IN
THE COMPILATION OF AMENDMENTS
IN FRONT OF US.
FAMILIES HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR
US TO ACT WITH URGENCY.
TODAY IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO
TAKE SOME IMPORTANT FIRST STEPS
OF RECOGNIZING WE HAVE NOT ALL
OF THE TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL
GIVEN THIS IS MIDYEAR IN A
BUDGET BALANCING.
BEGINS IN JUST 6 WEEKS.
THE PROCESS SETS US ON A COURSE
TO MEET THE GOALS OUTLINED BY
COMMUNITY AND TO TRULY REINVEST
IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
DAN EIDER TO GIVE US A SENSE OF
THE ORDER IN WHICH WE WILL HEAR
THINGS.
AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY
HEAR WHAT CENTRAL STAFF HAS
BEEN ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER FOR
US IN TREMENDOUS AND I WANT TO
EXPRESS MY TREMENDOUS
APPRECIATION FOR YOUR TIME,
APPROACH, AND RESEARCH THAT'S
GONE INTO THE PROCESS THAT WE
WILL DISCUSS NOW.
>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS
CHAIRMAN MOSQUEDA.
FOR THE RECORD.
DAN EIDER, CENTRAL STAFF DEPUTY
DIRECTOR.
AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, THIS
PORTION OF THE AGENDA INCLUDES
A DRAFT RESOLUTION PLUS SEVERAL
DOZEN AMENDMENTS ALL OF WHICH
RELATED IN 1 WAY OR ANOTHER TO
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
BUDGET.
I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE A
PORTION OF WHAT THE CHAIR
DESCRIBED ABOUT TODAY'S
COMMITTEE MEETING AND THE
UPCOMING COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
THERE WILL BE NO VOTES TODAY.
ALL OF THE ITEMS UNDER THIS
AGENDA ITEM ARE MARKED AS DRAFT
AND ARE INTENDED FOR DISCUSSION
ONLY.
WE WILL WALK THROUGH AS MANY
AMENDMENTS AS WE HAVE TIME FOR
THIS AFTERNOON AND IF WE DON'T
GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CHAIR
INTENDS TO CONTINUE THE
DISCUSSION ON MONDAY FOLLOWING
COUNCIL BRIEFINGS.
THE VOTE ON THE SPD RELATED
AMENDMENTS AND I'M NOT ENTIRELY
SURE WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE
RESOLUTION ITSELF, BUT THE SPD
AMENDMENTS ARE SCHEDULED FOR A
VOTE ON WEDNESDAY THE 5th OF
AUGUST.
THAT'S THE SELECT BUDGET
COMMITTEE.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'LL
HEAR ABOUT REQUIRE NEW
LEGISLATION.
THAT THE SPONSORS INTEND TO
HAVE QUEUED UP FOR INFORMATION
AND REFERRAL AND THOSE WILL BE
VOTED ON IN DUE COURSE EITHER
AT THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE
OR DIRECTLY AT THE FALL COUNCIL
MEETING.
SO THE GAME PLAN FOR THIS
PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS THAT
CENTRAL STAFF WILL PROVIDE A
BRIEF OVERVIEW OF EACH OF THE
AMENDMENTS AND THEN WE'LL
PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
COSPONSORS TO SPEAK TO THE
AMENDMENT.
AND GREG DOSS AND I ON CENTRAL
STAFF WILL BE WALKING THROUGH
EACH OF THESE AMENDMENTS IN A
FEW MOMENTS.
FIRST MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
FROM THE COSPONSORS OF A DRAFT
RESOLUTION POSTED TO THE
AGENDA.
AND SOME FRAMING REMARKS THAT
HE CAN OFFER AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TURN IT
OVER TO FROM CENTRAL STAFF TO
PROVIDE OPENING COMMENTS ABOUT
THE RESOLUTION.
AND THEN TO THE PRIME SPONSOR.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS IF THAT'S
CORRECT.
>> THANK YOU.
SO THIS IS RESOLUTION INTENDED
TO CAPTURE THE NEXT COUPLE
YEARS OF WORK TO DEFUND THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
SHIFT MANY OF THE FUNCTIONS
AWAY FROM POLICE TO OTHER MORE
APPROPRIATE VENUES.
IT HAS 7 SECTIONS.
THE FIRST STATES THE INTENT TO
CREATE A CIVILIAN LED
DEPARTMENT TO GUIDE PUBLIC
SAFETY.
>> EXCUSE ME.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE
WAS ANYTHING WE NEEDED TO QUEUE
UP ON THE SCREEN.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO TAKE 2
MINUTES TO WALK THROUGH IT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANKS.
THE SECOND SECTION PROPOSES TO
MOVE FUNCTIONS CURRENTLY IN THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT
ARE MORE APPROPRIATELY HOUSED
IN OTHER CITY AGENCIES FOR
EXAMPLE MOVING THE OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE 911
CENTER TO A CIVILIAN LED
DEPARTMENT.
THIRD SECTION TALKS ABOUT
MEASURES THAT THEY SHOULD TAKE
TO REDUCE BIAS IN POLICING.
THE FOURTH ASKS FOR REPORTS
FROM THE MAYOR AND POLICE CHIEF
IN ORDER TO INFORM EFFORTS TO
DEFUND THE POLICE.
THE 5th PROVIDES DIRECTION TO
THE POLICE CHIEF REGARDING THE
ORDER IN WHICH COUNCIL WOULD
LIKE LAYOFFS TO OCCUR.
THE 6th PROVIDES A TIMELINE TO
MOVE TO A PREVENTION
DEPARTMENT.
AND THE LAST SECTION INDICATES
THE COUNCIL WILL NOT PROVIDE
MORE FUNDING FOR OVERTIME THAN
WHAT IS ALLOCATED IN THE CITY'S
BUDGET.
AND THAT IS THE CONTENTS OF
TODAY.
IT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE.
JUST THIS MORNING WE RECEIVED
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM
COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK MY DISCUSSIONS WITH
THE SPONSORS OFFICE IS THAT WE
WOULD HAVE THIS INTRODUCED ON
THE 10th FOR A VOTE ON THE
10th.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, THANK YOU
FOR LEADING THE EFFORT TO BRING
FORTH THE RESOLUTION.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND
OTHERS WERE ALSO INVOLVED.
I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO YOU
TO.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON
THIS.
I THINK THIS RESOLUTION IS
REALLY ABOUT PROVIDING A
TEMPLATE FOR OUR DISCUSSION ON
THE SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENTS OVER
THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND HOW
THOSE AMENDMENTS REALLY SET THE
PLAN AND THE ROAD MAP FOR THE
BROADER PROJECT OF
SYSTEMATICALLY CHANGING OUR
SYSTEM OF FIRST RESPONSE.
I'VE BEEN TALKING EXTENSIVELY
ABOUT THE NEED FOR NEW
COMMUNITY LED OR CIVILIAN LED
SYSTEMS OF FIRST RESPONSE TO
MAKE SURE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH
THIS REALLY CRITICAL PROJECT
THAT CENTERS THE LIVES OF ALL
THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY,
THAT WE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON
WHAT IS GOING TO BE THAT
ADDITIVE THING THAT REPLACES
THE POLICE WHEN PEOPLE CALL 911
FOR CERTAIN NONCRIMINAL
OFFENSES AND AS WE SAW FROM THE
DATA WE RECEIVED FROM SPD, 56%
OF THE THINGS SPD ARE
RESPONDING TO ARE NONCRIMINAL
CONTRARY TO PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT
HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN THE MEDIA
AND CERTAIN PLACES OR MENTIONED
BY CERTAIN CRITICS OF OUR
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN
HAVING WITH COMMUNITY IN PUBLIC
IN THIS COMMITTEE UNDER YOUR
LEADERSHIP MADAM CHAIR, THERE
IS A VERY INTENTIONAL AND
DELIBERATE CONVERSATION TO
DEVELOP A PLAN FULLY
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT SOME OF
THESE WILL BE LONG-TERM
PROJECTS AND SOMEWILL REQUIRE
A ROAD MAP AND A COMMITMENT
DEMONSTRATED IN WRITING FROM US
THAT WE ARE GOING TO HONOR
THESE PROMISES TO FULLY AND
TOTALLY CREATE A NEW SYSTEM
THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE
SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS THAT HAVE NOT
BEEN ADDRESSED BY PREVIOUS
EFFORTS.
AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE
RESOLUTION IS.
IT COVERS MULTIPLE COMPONENTS
IN ITS FORM SO FAR THAT DOES
INCLUDE SOME OF THE THINGS
WHERE THERE HAS BEEN CONSENSUS
BETWEEN COMMUNITY, MAYOR, AND
COUNCIL IN THE TRANSFER OF
CERTAIN FUNCTIONS OUT OF SPD
AND PUT UNDER CIVILIAN CONTROL
AND CHAIN OF COMMAND AND THE
PROCESS FOR HOW WE AS A CITY
GOVERNMENT CAN WORK WITH
COMMUNITY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IN
A WAY THAT CENTERS THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE ORGANIZATIONS
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH.
IN ADDITION TO THAT,
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR
PREFERENCES TO COMMUNICATE HOW
DEPARTMENT LEVEL REFORMS AND
HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH CHIEF
BEST TO IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THE
CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO SEE
SOONER AND THAT ARE GOING TO BE
RELATED AND SOME OF THESE
AMENDMENTS WE'LL BE CONSIDERING
HERE.
AND ALSO THESE CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT THE LONG OVERDUE PROCESS
OF RIGHT SIZING OUR FIRST
RESPONSE AND INCORPORATING
CERTAIN RESPONSES LIKE
COMMUNITY BASED CRISIS
ASSISTANCE, HELPING OUT NO THE
STREETS.
LIKE CAY HOOTS OR LIKE THE STAR
PROGRAM IN DENVER WHICH IS
PROUD TO HAVE THEM JOIN ME FOR
A TOWN HALL TO DISCUSS THEIR
PILOT PROGRAM.
THIS RESOLUTION IS GOING TO BE
IN MY VISION OUR NAILING DOWN
OUR COMMITMENTS THIS SUMMER TO
BE COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT
FOR THE LONG HAUL KNOWING THAT
WE CANNOT ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING
IN THE SUMMER SESSION BUT
THERE'S MUCH WORK TO BE DONE.
I WANT TO LET EVERYONE WATCHING
TODAY KNOW AS CENTRAL STAFF DID
AS LIZ JUST COVERED ABLY, THE
RESOLUTION IS STILL A WORK IN
PROCESS.
CONSULTEN WITH MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY TO INCORPORATE ALL OF
THE DETAILS OF THE ONGOING
PROJECT BUT I DID IN
CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNCIL
WITH BUDGET CHAIR MOSQUEDA
THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT SO WE
COULD DAYLIGHT THIS
CONVERSATION, THAT WE COULD
SOLICIT INPUT AND GET THIS OUT
IN THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE CAN
HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION ABOUT
SHAPING THE CONTOURS OF THE
RESOLUTION WHICH IS ABOUT
SHAPING THE CONTOURS OF THE
DISCUSSION AND LOCKING IN THIS
IMPORTANT COMMITMENT.
WITH THAT, I DON'T THINK
THERE'S MUCH MORE TO SAY ABOUT
THIS RESOLUTION THIS AFTERNOON.
BUT IT WILL BE ONGOING AND I
WANT THE FEEDBACK OF COMMUNITY
AND COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO BUILD
IT OUT MORE.
SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD, THANK YOU.
>> IN ADDITION TO THE ITEMS
THAT COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS
REFERENCED AROUND THE
THOUGHTFUL IDEAS FROM COMMUNITY
AND KING COUNTY EQUITY ABOUT
HOW SPD CAN CAN CHANGE
PRACTICES IF WE WORK ON THE
STRUCTURAL SHIFTS THAT ARE
NEEDED SUCH AS PRIORITIZING 911
RESPONSE, IDENTIFYING
ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES AND
SIGNALING COUNCIL'S INTENT FOR
OVERTIME EXPENDITURES.
I ALSO WANT TO LIFT UP SOME
OTHER VERY IMPORTANT AND
CRITICAL ELEMENTS OF THIS
RESOLUTION.
IN SECTION 5 THE RESOLUTION
INCLUDES THE REQUEST TO CHIEF
OF POLICE BEST REGARDING
LAYOFFS.
TO ALIGNMENT WITH COMMUNITY
REQUESTS TO PRIORITIZE LAYING
OFF OFFICERS WITH A HISTORY OF
SUSTAINED COMPLAINTS.
AND WITH THE CONSENT DECREE,
MAINTAIN FIRST LINE FIELD
SUPERVISORS.
AND MAKE NO LAYOFF DECISIONS
THAT CONFLICT WITH THE CHARTER
OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN ADEQUATE
PATROL STAFFING IN EVERY
DISTRICT.
THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO
IMPORTANT IS THE COUNCIL CANNOT
COMPEL CHIEF BEST TO PURSUE OUT
OF ORDER LAYOFF AUTHORITIES.
THIS IS PERMISSION TO LAY OFF
OFFICERS ACCORDING TO CRITERIA
OTHER THAN SENIORITY.
CHIEF BEST MUST MAKE THIS
REQUEST HERSELF.
AND COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT SHE
SHOULD.
AND IT SPELLS OUT THE CRITERIA
THAT THE CHIEF SHOULD USE.
FIRST LAY OFF OFFICERS WITH A
HISTORY OF SUSTAINED EXPECTS
AGAINST THEM.
THIRDLY IT RECOGNIZES THAT THE
FEDERAL CONSENT DECREE
RELINQUISHES THAT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT MAINTAIN SUFFICIENT
QUALIFIED SUPERVISORS AS IT
PURSUES ANY LAYOFFS AND
FINALLY, IT RECOGNIZES OUR
CHARTER OBLIGATION, THE CHARTER
IS AKIN TO A CONSTITUTION FOR
THE CITY.
THE CITY MUST MAINTAIN PATROL
STAFFING IN EVERY DISTRICT.
THERE'S BEEN A WILD SUP
POSITION THAT ANY SHRINKAGE
WOULD RESULT IN THE CLOSURE OF
ENTIRE PRECINCTS.
THE CITY'S CHARTER PROVIDES
PROTECTION FROM SUCH A RASH
MOVE.
AND WE WANT TO THANK
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP IN PUTTING TOGETHER
THIS VISION FOR NOT ONLY HOW TO
DO POLICING DIFFERENTLY, OUR
REQUEST TO THE CHIEF.
AND OUR COMMITMENTS TO HOLD
OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.
AND THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
VISION FOR EXPLORING A NEW
CIVILIAN LED CITY DEPARTMENT
FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
VIOLENCE PREVENTION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ON THE RESOLUTION.
>> THIS IS COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THERE'S A LOT HERE AND WE
JUST GOT IT.
AND WE'VE HAD THESE
CONVERSATIONS WHEN WE'VE MET
WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL IN
EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'LL JUST BE STRAIGHT FORWARD.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SECTION 5.
IT'S ON PAGE 5. ABOUT 5A
PURSUING OUT OF ORDER LAYOFFS
AUTHORITY PRIORITIZING LAYOFF
AUTHORITIES WITH SUSTAINED
COMPLAINTS AND ALL THOSE OTHER
ISSUES.
IN PRINCIPLE I'M NOT AGAINST
THAT.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT.
THOSE OF US THAT QUESTION THE
LEGALITY DOES NOT MEAN THAT
WE'RE AGAINST YOU.
WHAT I AM TRYING TO HAVE SOME
COMMON SENSE WHICH SOMETIMES I
UNDERSTAND ISN'T IN FASHION, IS
THE UNCONSTITUTIONALITY ON ITS
FACE AND AS APPLIED IF YOU
THINK GOING TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND HAVE A
RESOLUTION OR PASS A LAW THAT
SAYS WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY
PRACTICE DISCRIMINATION ON SEX,
AGE, AND ON GENDER AND AS YOU
KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED
THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION,
THE DUE PROCESS THAT PROTECTS
US AS WELL AS THE STATE
CONSTITUTION SECTION 3 AND
SECTION 1 WHICH 'EM BODIES THE
14th AND
5th AMENDMENTS.
MY CONCERN IS THIS WITHOUT
GETTING ALL LAWYERY.
I WANT TO CAUTION ALL OF US
THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT
SOMETIMES THE MEANS DOESN'T
ALWAYS JUSTIFY THE END IF IT'S
ILLEGAL.
AND YES, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS
WRITTEN.
AND AS APPLIED.
AND THERE'S A NARROW
APPLICATION THERE FOR PROTECTED
CLASSES AND MOST OF US CAN
UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
THERE ARE PROTECTED CLASSES.
MAINLY CLASSES OF PEOPLE,
AFRICAN-AMERICANS, NATIVE
AMERICANS, GROUPS THAT HAVE
BEEN HISTORICALLY DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST.
WHAT I SEE IN SECTION 5 WOULD
NOT PASS CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER.
I FIND IT UNFORTUNATE THAT I
GET 38 AMENDMENTS AND NOT 1
PHONE CALL ABOUT ANY OF THIS.
THAT CONCERNS ME.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ISSUES THAT
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT FOR
THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT.
BUT A SIMPLE COLLEAGUE HEADS
UP, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING
AT WHERE WE COULD PERHAPS HAVE
WORKED TOGETHER TO CARVE OUT
HOW WE LOOK AT SCALING DOWN, UN-
SCAFFOLDING THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, SWORN OFFICERS, ET
CETERA.
WOULD HAVE BEEN A REAL GOOD ACT
OF GOOD FAITH.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL LISTEN
WITH AN OPEN MIND AND AN OPEN
HEART.
AND I HOPE WE CAN GO FORWARD
AND I HOPE THIS DOCUMENT BRINGS
US TOGETHER BECAUSE A LOT OF
THE LANGUAGE I SEE IN HERE IS
VERY DIVISIVE AND MAKES FACT
BASED STATEMENTS THAT ARE, WE
DON'T KNOW ARE ACTUAL FACTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE WHOLE
HISTORY OF THE WORLD IS WHITE
PEOPLE.
SOME OF IT JUST, TO ME, IT'S
DIVISIVE.
IT'S NOT BRINGING US TOGETHER
AS A CITY.
I WANT TO SEE A RESOLUTION THAT
TALKS ABOUT HOW WE ACTUALLY
DEFUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BY
REALLOCATING WITH A PLAN NOT A
PLEDGE AND HOW WE TAKE THAT
SCALPEL AND DOWN TO A POINT
WHERE WE HAVE POLICE THAT IS
COMMUNITY POLICING.
AND MY LAST POINT IS THIS.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM
THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY'RE
AT.
WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION HAS
BEEN.
WE OBVIOUSLY FUNDED THEM.
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ WORKED
HARD ON DOUBLING THE BUDGET.
HAVE NOT HEARD A WORD ABOUT
WHERE THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION IS ON THAT.
AND HISTORICALLY, THAT'S WHERE
WE LOOKED TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
THAT'S WHY THEY WERE CREATED.
BECAUSE OF THE CONSENT DECREE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
THOSE ARE THE RESERVATIONS I
HAVE.
BUT I WILL CONTINUE AS AN
ELECTED FOR THE WHOLE CITY YOU
CAN NOT JUST DISTRICT 5 TO KEEP
AN OPEN MIND AND TO LEARN MORE.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, REALLY
APPRECIATE IT.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD I SEE
YOUR HAND UP.
>> JUST SUPER QUICK.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT
SECTION 5 REFERS TO SPECIFIC
AUTHORITY IN THE RULES THAT
SAYS THE CHIEF HAS THE POWER TO
ASK FOR LAYOFFS OUT OF ORDER.
THAT'S ALL THIS IS INTENDED TO
DO.
AND AS IT RELATES TO THE
QUESTION ABOUT THE CPC, THIS IS
A QUESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS HAD THE OTHER DAY.
I APOLOGIZE.
I SENT TO COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS
MY COMMUNICATION WITH THE CPC
ON THE TIMING FOR THEIR INPUT
ON THE BUDGET BECAUSE HE WAS
THE COUNCILMEMBER WHO
SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR IT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND IT TO
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ AS WELL AS
OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS AS WELL.
THEY ARE WORKING TO GIVE US
INPUT.
AND THEY DISCUSSED OUR 2020
BUDGET REALIGNMENT IN A RECENT
MEETING.
THEY ARE PRIORITIZING THE NEED
TO RESPOND TO CROWD CONTROL
LEGISLATION AND STILL
ENDEAVORING TO GET US
INFORMATION ON OUR BUDGET.
I WILL SHARE WITH YOU MY
CORRESPONDENCE WITH, ONE OF THE
COCHAIRS ABOUT THE INPUT TO THE
BUDGET.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ IS
UP NEXT.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK
MOMENT HERE.
I DO APPRECIATE THE APPROACH IN
THE RESOLUTION.
I AM HEARING CONCERNS
PARTICULARLY FROM COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ AROUND THE PROCESS OF
PUTTING THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE
US AND I JUST WANT TO SORT OF
FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE VIEWING
PUBLIC THAT THIS IN MY VIEW IS
A VERY INITIAL DRAFT.
IT SAYS DRAFT.
AND THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO COLLECTIVELY GATHER IN
THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND
PROVIDE THE SPONSORS IN THIS
CASE, COUNCILMEMBERS HER BOLD
AND LEWIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
HEAR DIRECTLY FROM YOU AT FIRST
BLUSH
BLUSH.
WHAT ARE SOME COMPONENTS THAT
ARE MISSING?
AND WHAT ARE SOME COMPONENT
THAT IS PERHAPS NEED ADDITIONAL
WORK?
AND I DON'T WANT THE VIEWING
PUBLIC TO THINK THAT THERE IS
AN INTENTION OF JAMMING UP
OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS BY VIRTUE
OF TRANSPARENCY DISCLOSING THIS
PARTICULAR RESOLUTION AT THIS
JUNCTURE AND DO APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO IN A PUBLIC
SETTING HAVE A CONVERSATION
ABOUT INITIAL CONCERNS AND
POSSIBLE MODIFICATIONS TO
IMPROVE UPON THE RESOLUTION AND
I ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION IN ITS
DRAFT FORM AND IN THAT SPIRIT
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE
SPIRIT THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO
BE PRESENTED IN.
AND SO I JUST FEEL REALLY
COMPELLED TO SAY THAT FOR THE
VIEWING PUBLIC.
THAT I AM APPRECIATE THE NEED
TO DIG INTO THE RESOLUTION SOME
MORE.
AND I THINK THAT THE SPONSORS
ARE PRESENTING US AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
THAT POINT FIRST.
SECONDLY, I WILL SAY THAT I
WILL SAY THAT I THINK THAT AS I
READ THROUGH THE RESOLUTION I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THE
PARTICULAR GRANULAR DETAILS IN
THE RESOLUTION WHICH I
APPRECIATE AND THAT'S PART OF
THE WORK WE DO ON THE COUNCIL.
AND I WANT TO TAKE A STEP BACK
AND MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS
WHO ARE VIEWING THIS UNDERSTAND
WHAT THIS DOCUMENT WOULD
REPRESENT FOR THE COUNCIL.
AND REALLY WHAT THIS REPRESENTS
IS WHAT WE PHASE 2 OF SOME LONG-
TERM WORK AS IT RELATES TO
SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENTS THAT WE
AS A COUNCIL WOULD MAKE TO
CONTINUE THE WORK OF
REORGANIZING AND TRANSFORMING
HOW THE CITY DELIVERS PUBLIC
SAFETY TO THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE
CONSISTENT WITH OUR
OBLIGATIONS.
AND THESE ARE, THIS IS THE ROAD
MAP IF YOU WILL TO GET US TO A
PLACE WHERE WE CAN FULLY
FULFILL THE CALL FROM JUST
ABOUT EVERY CORNER OF THE
COMMUNITY, COMMUNITIES ACROSS
SEATTLE THAT WANT TO SEE US
TAKE BOLD ACTION TO TRANSFORM
AND REORGANIZE POLICING IN OUR
CITY AND TO INVEST IN
COMMUNITIES IN A WAY THAT IS
MORE EFFECTIVE AT ADDRESSING
AND DEALING WITH THE ROOT
CAUSES OF WHY FOLKS ARE LED
INTO THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM TO
BEGIN WITH US.
AND SO I APPRECIATE AND WANT
THE VIEWING PUBLIC TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS RESOLUTION
IS OUR WORK PLAN AND OUR
COMMITMENT TO ACTUALIZE FURTHER
TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE AS IT
RELATES TO THE MODEL OF
POLICING AND AS IT RELATES TO
ONGOING INVESTMENTS THAT WILL
BE NEEDED IN COMMUNITY BASED
SOLUTIONS THAT WILL SERVE THE
PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR CITY AND
COMMUNITY BETTER THAN AN ARMED
LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE TO ALL
MANNER OF SOCIAL ISSUE THAT IS
DON'T MERIT AN ARMED LAW
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE BUT ARE
CERTAINLY RECEIVING 1 AND THAT
STATUS QUO IS UNACCEPTABLE.
SO I WANTED TO SHARE THOSE 2
PERSPECTIVES WITH MY COLLEAGUES
AND ALSO WITH THE VIEWING
PUBLIC AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR BEING ABLE TO
DO SO.
>> MADAM CHAIR.
>> GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ.
AND THEN I SEE COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFYING
POINT THAT THIS IS A OBVIOUSLY
A ROAD MAP.
IT'S PHASE 2 OF LONG-TERM WORK.
I'M CERTAINLY NOT TRYING TO
INFER THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE
TRYING TO QUOTE UNQUOTE JAM ME
UP OR ANY OF US UP BUT I CAN'T
HELP BUT LOOK AT THIS
RESOLUTION, ALL THE WORK WE
HAVE AHEAD OF US WHICH IS QUITE
EXCITING.
THIS IS NOT ONLY
TRANSFORMATIONAL.
BUT WE MAY BE THE FIRST CITY IN
THE COUNTRY TO UNDERTAKE THIS
AND MOVE FORWARD AND DO THIS
AND UNRAVEL AND DECONSTRUCT
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
WEAPONIZED AND HURT PEOPLE OF
COLOR SINCE THE FOUNDING OF THE
COUNTRY.
I UNDERSTAND.
MY POINT WAS WITH SOMETHING
THIS MONUMENTAL AND THIS LIKE I
SAID, IT'S PHENOMENAL.
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AND
HAVE A FEW DISCUSSIONS.
I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AS WELL.
THAT'S MY POINT.
SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I SAW COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
I DO THINK THAT IT IS WORTH
TAKING A MOMENT.
FRAMING IT THE WAY YOU DID.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY
IS THE BEGINNING OF HOPEFULLY A
BEGINNING OF A SHIFT.
I THINK MANY OF US ARE
COMMITTED TO REALLY BEGINNING
TO TRANSFORM THE WAY WE THINK
ABOUT COMMUNITY SAFETY.
AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT MEANS FOR
THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE BEGIN
TO REPAIR THE HARM DONE TO OUR
COMMUNITY.
THAT IS MY INTEREST IN MAKING
SURE THAT WE ARE PURSUING THIS
WORK.
AND WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS THE
BEGINNING OF A PROCESS OF WITH
THIS SLEW OF AMENDMENTS GOING
TO BE TALKING ABOUT POLICY
DECISION TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF
THE FORCE.
SO PULL FUNCTIONS OUT OF THE
FORCE.
AND TO REALLY COMMIT TO
SHIFTING THOSE RESOURCES INTO
OUR COMMUNITIES WHERE WE KNOW
THAT THERE IS BRILLIANCE AND
INNOVATION AND HOPE FOR
INVESTIGATING COMMUNITIES IN A
DIFFERENT KIND OF WAY.
SO THIS IS ABOUT REALLY TRYING
TO BEGIN THAT PATHWAY SO THAT
WE HAVE A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD
THAT UPROOTS THE SYSTEMS THAT
HAVE REALLY HARMED OUR
COMMUNITY, THAT FOCUSES ON
HEALING AND GROWTH FOR OUR
COMMUNITIES AND THAT REALLY
BEGINS TO TIE PUBLIC RESOURCES
TO THE KINDS OF REPARATIONS
THAT OUR BLACK AND BROWN AND
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES ARE
ASKING FOR.
AND I WANT US TO AS
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ SAID WE
HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS THAT WE
NEED TO WORK ON TOGETHER TO
MOVE THROUGH.
BUT I WANT US TO REMEMBER THE
REASON WE'RE DOING THIS WHICH
IS THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE NOT
GOING TO REALIZE THE END GOAL
AND HAVE THE OUTCOMES THAT WE
WANT IF WE DON'T BEGIN WITH
DISMANTLING A SYSTEMS THAT NOT
SERVED ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS WELL.
AND HASN'T BEEN ROOTED IN
EQUITY SINCE THE FOUNDING OF
THE INSTITUTION.
SO I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL
CHAIR MOSQUEDA FOR BEGINNING
THE PROCESS.
IT'S BEEN IMPORTANT FOR US TO
TAKE THE TIME WE NEED TO BEGIN
TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
GOING ON AND ENGAGE COMMUNITY
AND TO PUBLICLY COMMIT TO DOING
THIS WORK NOT JUST NOW FOR THE
2020 BUT TO INVEST IN
CONTINUING THE WORK.
2021.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST REAL QUICKLY.
I DON'T WANT MY COLLEAGUES ON
THE COUNCIL OR VIEWING PUBLIC
TO THINK THAT SEATTLE IS GOING
IT ALONE ON THIS EFFORT.
I'M PRIVILEGED AS I KNOW AT
LEAST 3 OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS
ARE ON LOCAL PROGRESS AND LOCAL
PROGRESS IS A NETWORK OF
ELECTED OFFICIALS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY IN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
WORKING FOR TOWARDS PROGRESSIVE
POLICIES AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING
A DEFUND TRACKER FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THEIR MEMBERS SO WE
CAN GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING
ON IN OTHER CITIES.
FROM THE TRACKER, 9 CITIES HAVE
TAKEN VOTES TO REDUCE THE
BUDGETS AND THAT'S TO BE
DISTINGUISHED FROM EITHER A
PROPOSAL OR SIGNING ONTO A
RESOLUTION ABOUT A GOAL.
9 CITIES HAVE TAKEN VOTES SO
FAR IN JUNE AND JULY TO CUT THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS.
THE SIZE OF THOSE CUTS HAVE
RANGED FROM ABOUT A HALF
PERCENT IN MINNEAPOLIS TO 12%
I'M SORRY TO 16% IN NEW YORK
CITY.
AND IN ADDITION TO NEW YORK
CITY, 3 OTHER CITIES HAVE CUT
MORE THAN 5% OF THEIR BUDGET
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE VOTES
ALREADY TAKEN AND THAT'S
BERKELEY AND L.A, PORTLAND AND
NEW YORK CITY.
L.A.
7.5% CUT.
PORTLAND MADE A 6% CUT.
NEW YORK CITY MADE A 16% CUT.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO
MINNEAPOLIS, THE CITIES OF
PHILADELPHIA, OAKLAND,
HARTFORD, AND BALTIMORE HAVE
ALSO MADE VOTES.
BUT THE CUTS HAVE BEEN ALL LESS
THAN 5% SO FAR.
SO THAT IS NOT AT ALL TO
MINIMIZE THE WORK BEING DONE IN
SEATTLE OR ANY OTHER CITY IN
COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY
DEMANDS TO VISION PUBLIC SAFETY
THAT DOES NOT RELY ON GROWING
THE SIZE OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
IT'S TO ME WHAT IT IS IS IT
SHOWS HOW HARD WE ARE WORKING
RIGHT NOW TO DO A LOT IN A
SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME AND HOW
MUCH EFFORT IT'S GOING TO BE
AND THE COMMITMENT IT'S GOING
TO TAKE IN ORDER TO FULLY
REALIZE THIS VISION.
>> MADAM CHAIR IF I MAY
RESPOND.
>> SURE, AND THEN I SEE
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> MY POINT IS THIS.
THE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE
THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ALL
TOOK A PLEDGE TO CUT THE SPD
BUDGET BY 50%.
THAT'S THE POINT I WAS MAKING.
I'M AWARE OF MINNEAPOLIS AND
NEW YORK CITY AND L.A.
AND PORTLAND.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE
SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT SOME
OF OUR COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID
THAT WE'RE GOING TO CUT THE SPD
BUDGET BY 50%.
NO CITY HAS DONE THAT.
AND IF THEY DID DO IT AND EVEN
IF YOU GOT UP TO 16%.
THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN 6 WEEKS.
THAT'S THE POINT I'M MAKING.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT CREATING A NEW
WHEEL OR A BRAND NEW METHOD OF
HOW WE DO THIS.
IT'S BEEN DONE OBVIOUSLY.
MY POINT IS AGAIN IN THE SHORT
AMOUNT OF TIME AND RAISING
EXPECTATIONS ABOUT A PLEDGE OF
50% AND ALSO QUITE FRANKLY, I
DON'T ALWAYS THINK THAT THE
POLICE BUDGET WAS A BLACK BOX.
I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, THIS IS
MY SECOND TERM.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD ACCESS TO
THEIR BUDGET.
MAYBE NOT TO THE GRANULAR
LEVEL.
WE CAN SEE WHAT FUNCTIONS WE
CAN MOVE.
HOW DO WE REDUCE SIZE OF FORCE.
BUT IT HASN'T BEEN A BIG SECRET
TO US THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE
THE $400 MILLION GOES.
WE JUST DISAGREE.
AND ALSO THIS ISN'T AN INQUEST,
IT'S AN INQUIRY.
WE'RE REQUESTING THESE
QUESTIONS AND WE START WITH THE
PROPOSITION THAT WE NEED
ANSWERS SO WE CAN GET TO THAT.
I AM AWARE THAT SOME OF YOU
BELONG TO THE LOCAL PROGRESS.
LET'S JUST CONTEXT YOU'LLIZE
THAT.
THIS IS THE.
A PLEDGE TO CUT SPD THAT CAN'T
WITH DONE AND THAT HAS ALWAYS
BEEN MY POINT.
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH MADAM
CHAIR.
IT'S FOR FRANK EXCHANGES LIKE
THE 1 WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW
THAT I DECIDED TO DAYLIGHT IT
EARLY TO SOLICIT.
LIKE I SAID.
IT WOULD NOT BE MY INTENT TO
HAVE A VOTE UNTIL THE 10th.
I DO WANT IT TO BE FAIRLY
VETTED.
I APPRECIATE THE SALIENT POINT
THAT IS COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ
MADE AND COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ,
I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH
EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL ON A
LOT OF THE PROVISIONS AND DO
ACTUALLY SHARE A LOT OF THE
CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED
IN YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS.
I DO APPRECIATE HOW YOU PLASTIC
BAGGING THOSE FLAGGING THOSE
AREAS AND MY OFFICE WILL FOLLOW
UP WITH YOURS AS WELL AS OTHER
COLLEAGUES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A ROAD
MAP REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GOALS
OF THE COUNCIL AND ALL THE
MEMBERS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOU VOICING THOSE CONCERNS NOW
AND VOICING THOSE CONCERNS
EARLY.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
EARLY FEEDBACK SO THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
>> OKAY, WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL COLLEAGUES
AND I'D ADD A FEW COMMENTS AS
WE TRANSITION.
I THINK THE CONVERSATION HAS
BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
AND THE RESOLUTION IS A HELPFUL
TOOL TO MAKE THE POINTS CLEAR.
THE ACTIONS TODAY ARE THE FIRST
STEP IN A LONGER PROCESS THAT
HELPS IN DEBUTING A PLAN TO GET
TOWARDS HAVING THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THE
CUTS IN FRONT OF US REALLY DO
REP HOW WE BEGIN TO SCALE UP IN
COMMUNITY INVESTMENT AND HELP
REDUCE CRIME AND MAKE SURE
WE'RE INVESTING IN PUBLIC
SAFETY.
AND HELP US IDENTIFY HOW WE
COULD GET TO THE FULL 50%
REDUCTION AND HAVE A PLAN TO
MEET THE COMMUNITY DEMANDS, TO
MEET THE ROAD MAP THAT'S BEEN
OUTLINED IN FRONT OF US.
TO TRULY CREATE THE COMMUNITY
PROCESS AND NOT JUST FROM THE
LOCAL COMMUNITY BUT ACROSS THE
NATION, DATA DRIVEN STRATEGIES
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
INVESTING IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND
HEALTH AND DOING SO IN
EQUITABLE WAYS.
I SEE THIS AS AN IMPORTANT
COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO DO
THE WORK AND TO THE POINT
RAISED BY ALL OF THE COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE COMMITTING YOURS TO THE
FUTURE ACTION AND MAKE SURE
WE'RE LOOKING NOT JUST AT THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
BUDGET BUT THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM AND STRATEGIES FOR US TO
MAKE MATERIAL CONDITIONS
IMPROVE FOR THOSE.
I ALSO THINK THAT THE
RESOLUTION IS HELPFUL IN
ILLUMINATING THAT WE'D LIKE TO
END UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT'S
LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE AND ACTION
ORIENTED AND REALLY IS IN
STATUTE FOR THE LONG HALL.
THERE'S A LOT AT RISK FOR US.
WE HAVE EXTENDED AN OLIVE
BRANCH TO COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE
HAD BROKEN TRUST WITH
GOVERNMENT IN THE PAST.
AND WE'RE ASKING FOLKS TO WORK
WITH US TO CRAFT THE NEXT STEP
AND I SEE THAT AS A PROCESS FOR
US TO CONTINUE TO EXTEND OUR
DESIRE TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP
WITH COMMUNITY AND TO CONTINUE
TO HEAR FROM FOLKS ABOUT HOW WE
MOVE FORWARD IN AN INTENTIONAL
WAY TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SYSTEM
THAT ADDRESSES THE HARM THAT IS
ALL COUNCILMEBERS HAVE.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF BRINGING
THIS FORWARD.
GETTING INITIAL FEEDBACK.
SO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS NOT
JUST THE AMENDMENTS.
SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS BUT THE
HOLISTIC OUTLINED TODAY.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT
FORWARD.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO
DO AND THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW
ME.
I LOVE HANDOUTS.
AND IF I WAS IN PERSON I WOULD
BE PROVIDING YOU WITH A
HANDOUT.
SOME OF IT IS ON THE KOREAN TO
SHOW SOME POTENTIAL STRATEGIES
FOR US TO COMPLEMENT THE
RESOLUTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
THIS IS NOT IN A RESOLUTION
FORMAT BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDE
YOU WITH A GLIMPSE ON THE BACK
OF THE ENVELOPE ANALYSIS.
AND A DETAILED ANALYSIS TO
PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE
CONTEXT TO NOT JUST WHAT IS IN
FRONT OF US IN 2020 BUT HOW
THIS IS EXTRAPOLATED OVER THE
2021, 2022 PROPOSAL.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AND I
HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE
COULD PUT TOGETHER A RESOLUTION
THAT WOULD HELP US WITH
IDENTIFYING THE NEXT STEP.
OUR 2020 REBALANCING BUDGET
DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE TOOLS IN
THE TOOL BELT.
THE FEW REMAINING DOLLARS NOT
YET SPENT AND ARE FLEXIBLE.
COUNCILMEMBER LEASE LEWIS' PLAN
IS A RESOLUTION ON
AUGUST 10th.
WE KNOW OUR CENTRAL STAFF HAVE
BEEN INCREDIBLY BUSY WORKING
úWITH ALL OF YOU.
I WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERY
SINGLE COUNCILMEMBER GETTING A
CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE IN FRONT
OF US.
USE THE RESOLUTION AND PROVIDE
PENCIL TO PAPER TO TALK ABOUT
HOW THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL
CHANGE WILL CONTINUE TO
EXTRAPOLATE.
AS YOU SEE HERE, WE HAVE A
DETAILED, INTENTIONAL AND DATA
DRIVEN PLAN WITH A NUMBER OF
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'LL BE
REVIEWING IN JUST A MOMENT.
IF A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS ARE
TO PASS, WE COULD REALIZE
SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS AND
INVESTMENT IN COMMUNITY IN THE
OUTYEARS, A LOT OF THIS IS JUST
DRAFT.
SOME OF IT MAY BE SUBJECT TO
BARGAINING AND THE CHART IS
REALLY INTENDED TO PROVIDE ALL
OF US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SEE HOW THE CUTS AND THE
PROVISOS AND THE TRANSFERS
REPRESENTED IN THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS IN FRONT OF US TODAY
COULD EXTRAPOLATE OVER 2021 AND
2022 TO RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT
CHANGES TO REACH THAT 50% MARK
POTENTIALLY IN THE UPCOMING
YEARS.
I WANT TO DIG INTO THE DETAIL
WITH FOLKS OVER THE NEXT WEEK
HERE.
I THINK WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS
THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SHOW THAT THIS IS NOT JUST
ABOUT INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS
TODAY BUT A HOLISTIC PICTURE
THAT CONTINUES TO.
LINE ITEMS RELATED TO THE
OVERTIME BUDGET.
THE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
TRANSFERS.
LIFTING UP INDIVIDUALS
PROVIDING CORE COMMUNITY
SERVICES INTO OTHER
DEPARTMENTS.
AND INVESTING IN COMMUNITY
STRATEGIES WHERE WE'VE SEEN
REDUCTIONS.
THIS CHART REMEMBERS A 42%
REDUCTION IN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND WE KNOW THAT
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE OTHER
COMPONENTS OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM
TO TRULY TRY TO GET TO THE
GOALS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS
OUTLINED.
MANY OF US HAVE BEEN INTERESTED
IN THE ROAD MAP THAT
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS' RESOLUTION
GETS TO.
AND A WAY TO SHOW HOW THE
STRATEGIES AND OUR LIMITED
TOOLS FOR 2020 COULD BE
EXTRAPOLATED.
AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING
OF THE CONVERSATION AND I OFFER
THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, THANKS
AGAIN FOR HIGHLIGHTING YOUR
RESOLUTION.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, ANYTHING
TO ADD TO THE NUMBERS I JUST
SHARED?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
AND MY COMMENTS WILL, ARE IN
TANDEM WITH THE PROVISOS THAT
I'VE BROUGHT THAT WE'LL BE
SPEAKING WITH.
I WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE
2021 ROAD MAP.
IT INCLUDES THE NARROWING OF
THE SCOPE OF THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN A WAY THAT IS
BETTER SUITED TO TO MEET THE
SPECIFIC NEEDS OF THE
COMMUNITY.
RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF
SHARPENING THE FOCUS ON MATTERS
AND FREES UP RESOURCES, SOCIAL
WELFARE, MR.IC HEALTH,
HOMELESSNESS AND SUBSTANCE
ADDICTION.
WITH THE REDUCTIONS OF
OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AND
PROGRAMS WHICH THEY OVERSEE.
AND IN LIGHT OF THE PROPOSED
OPERATIONAL REDUCTION AND
FUNCTIONS LIKELY TO BE MOVED
OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT.
THE 2021 RESOLUTION INCLUDES
CONTRACTING THE CHAIN OF
COMMAND WHICH INCLUDES THE
DEPUTIES, ASSISTANT CHIEFS AND
SERGEANTS.
THESE NUMBERS WILL CORRESPOND
TO CHANGES WITH THE 911
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
THE OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
COLLABORATIVE POLICING BUREAU.
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND THE HOMELAND SECURITY AND
SPECIAL OPERATIONS.
WE KNOW AT THE CONCLUSION OF
THIS HISTORIC TRANSITION, WE'LL
BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON TRADITIONAL
POLICING AND DEPLOY THE PROPER
PROFESSIONALS TO QUICKLY
RESPOND WITH THE APPROPRIATE
RESOURCES TO THE CALLS THEY
RECEIVE WHETHER IT BE CRISIS
INTERVENTION, VICTIMS
ASSISTANCE, SOCIAL SERVICES OR
WHEN NECESSARY WITH AN ARMED
RESPONSE.
THROUGH THIS TRANSITION, YOU'LL
ALWAYS BE ABLE TO CALL 911 AND
RECEIVE A RESPONSE AND AT THE
CONCLUSION OF THE TRANSITION F
YOU HAVE TO CALL 911 YOU'LL GET
THE RIGHT RESPONSE RIGHT AWAY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
I'M EXCITED TO MOVE ON TO THE
AMENDMENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU
TO COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
MOST OF THIS IS NOT NEW.
IT'S WHAT SEVERAL
COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PROPOSING TO
DO WITH THE AMENDMENTS IN FRONT
OF US.
AND MANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS
TODAY THAT WE'LL REVIEW ONLY
REALIZE 2 MONTHS IN SAVINGS.
THE ATTEMPT HERE IS TO DO A
MULTIPLIER EFFECT.
IF WE MULTIPLE IT OVER THE
YEAR, THIS IS HOW WE GET TO
SOME OF THE NUMBERS.
AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT AS WE TRY
TO SHOW HOW OUR COMMITMENTS
WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT OVER
FUTURE YEARS IF THE AMENDMENTS
ARE TO BE ADOPTED.
NOT GETS AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDE THE
CONTEXT AND MAKE SURE THAT
FOLKS KNEW HOW THE
CONVERSATIONS COULD BE
EXTRAPOLATED OUT OVER THE
COMING YEARS.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
AND COUNCILMEMBERS HERBOLD AND
LEWIS FOR PUTTING OUT THE
RESOLUTION TO LAY OUT THIS ROAD
MAP.
IT TAKES COURAGE TO BE THE
FIRST TO PUT IT OUT FOR US TO
SINK OUR TEETH INTO AND TO HAVE
A WIDE RANGE OF COMMUNITY
GROUPS LOOK AT IT.
WHETHER THAT'S COMMUNITY
POLICING COMMISSION,
DECRIMINALIZE KING COUNTY
EQUITY NOW.
THE EVERYDAY MARCHERS, LOTS OF
FOLKS WILL HAVE INPUT AND IT'S
GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO
ON A HONOR THE INPUT.
AND I'M GLAD THAT THE
RESOLUTION IS FOCUSED ON THE
PRINCIPLES THAT WE ALL AGREE ON
THAT WE NEED TO END THE
INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND THE
ORGANIZATION.
AND REINVEST IN BLACK
COMMUNITIES BY REALLOCATING
TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO
DO THAT.
I SUPPORT THAT AND WANT TO DE-
MILITARIZE THIS.
AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE
WITH REFORM.
SO THIS DOCUMENT IS SHOWING
THAT A PATROL OFFICER ARE
REDUCED.
YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE A
POLICE DEPARTMENT OR A
DEPARTMENT WITH OFFICERS AND
THEREFORE WE NEED TO CONTINUE
WITH THE CONSENT DECREE REFORMS
WHILE WE'RE REALLOCATING AND
REINVESTING IN COMMUNITIES.
I'M GLAD THAT THE RESOLUTION.
I'M STILL WORKING MY WAY
THROUGH IT.
I'M GLAD IT'S NOT FIXATED ON A
SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE.
THAT'S MISSING THE POSITIVE
OUTCOMES WE'RE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE
TOGETHER.
AND THE PRINCIPLES ABOUT NOT
JUST THE REFORMS THEY WANT TO
CONTINUE BUT THE REALLOCATION
OF DOLLARS.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT
OUT THERE.
IN TERMS OF THE SPREAD SHEET
PUT UP ON THE SCREEN.
I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND
THERE WAS A LINE ITEM FOR $57
MILLION WHICH IS A LARGE, MAYBE
THE LARGEST LINE ITEM THERE.
IT SAYS AND THIS MIGHT BE A
QUESTION FOR GREG DOSS, LATER.
BUT THE $57 MILLION, HR, FAS,
I.T., AND JNC FUND.
JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW
THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THE
DISCUSSION.
JUST SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT
MEANS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
AND IF I MIGHT.
CAN WE PUT A PIN IN THAT
QUESTION FOR LATER?
EXCELLENT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMUNITIES AND I CONTINUE TO
APPRECIATE THE FRAME AROUND DE-
MILITARIZING AND REFRAMING.
I WANTED TO LIFT YOUR COMMENTS
AROUND THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE
POINTS WELL TAKEN.
THE PRESENCE OF A MORE
MILITARIZED FORCE.
EVEN IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS OR
MONTHS.
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE
TO CONTINUE TO BRING UP.
AND I WANT TO THANK
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, JUAREZ,
HERBOLD.
I BELIEVE WE'VE HEARD FROM
EVERYBODY.
AND COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT WILL
HAVE MORE TO STAY IN JUST A FEW
MINUTES.
LET'S MOVE RIGHT INTO THE
AMENDMENTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF
THE FEEDBACK.
DID I CUT ANYBODY OFF?
WE'LL GET MORE INTO THE
DETAILS.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN, DID I
CUT YOU OFF?
NO.
LET'S GET INTO THE AMENDMENTS.
AND I APPRECIATE THE RESOLUTION
DIALOGU SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE
AMENDMENTS AND RECOGNIZING WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ LIFTED UP.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME NEXT
WEEK THROUGH THE VARIOUS
COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO TALK
ABOUT PROPOSED AMENDMENTS HERE.
DO NOT FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE
LAST TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS AND
RAISE CONCERNS.
WE CAN DO THAT NEXT WEEK.
DAN EIDER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK.
JUST DOUBLE CHECKING AUDIO.
OKAY, AM I TURNING IT OVER TO
YOU, GREG.
>> YEAH, SURE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MANY
AMENDMENTS.
THERE'S A TABLE IN FRONT OF
YOU.
IF YOU MOVE THROUGH THIS TABLE
YOU WILL SEE FIRST THAT THE
AMENDMENT THAT WE'LL FIRST
PRESENT IS SPONSORED BY
YOURSELF AND COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD AND GONE SALDZ AND
MORALES.
THESE AMENDMENTS ARE INTENDED
TO BE A SEARCH BALANCING
PACKAGE WITH REVENUE AMENDMENTS
THAT WILL COME LATER ON.
AND THERE'S A SPECIFY APPROACH,
A PROVISO APPROACH TO HOW THEY
TREAT SPD FUNDS THAT I'M GOING
TO DESCRIBE IN A MOMENT.
AND THEN ROUND OUT THE LIST
WITH OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE
BEEN OFFERED BY OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS, INCLUDING SOME
OF YOU INDEPENDENTLY.
AND THAT'S JUST SORT OF AN
ORIENTATION TO THE AMENDMENTS
WE'RE GOING TO COVER.
AND WITH THAT I'M GOING TO GO
AHEAD AND ASK THAT WE BEGIN
WITH AMENDMENT NUMBER 16.
>> BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE
TABLE ON THE ORIENTATION.
I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK IF THERE ARE
FOLKS INTERESTED IN WORKING
WITH COUNCILMEMBERS LEWIS AND
HERBOLD.
I'D BE INTERESTING IN BEING A
COSPONSOR.
ANY ADDITIONAL FOLKS.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
AND ON THE RESOLUTION I
MENTIONED.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AND I ARE
INTERESTED IN CRAFTING.
ANY FOLKS INTERESTED IN THAT?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> I'M INTERESTED IN WORKING ON
IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD BE A
COSPONSOR.
AND WE'LL CONFIRM BEFORE
SOMETHING IS INTRODUCED.
HOW ABOUT THAT?
AND WE'LL TALK TO THE FOLKS IN
OUR CLERK'S DEPARTMENT ABOUT
THE WAY IN WHICH WE CAN DO
THAT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
>> SO WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US DO
THAT.
LET'S CONTINUE WITH AMENDMENT
16.
SPONSORS HERBOLD, GONZALEZ, AND
MORALES.
>> I'M GOING TO GIVE A FEW
MINUTES OF AN OVERVIEW TO THIS
AMENDMENT.
IT'S QUITE LENGTHY.
AND IT IS ALSO SORT OF A
FRAMEWORK OR A TEMPLATE FOR
MANY AMENDMENTS TO COME.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE
APPROACH HERE AND UNDERSTANDS
THE COMPLEXITY AND ANY
QUESTIONS AROUND THE APPROACH
ARE ANSWERED.
SO I'LL START BY SAYING THAT
THE PROVISO THAT APPEARS IN
MOST OF THESE ACTIONS WILL
RESTRICT DOLLARS IN THE PATROL
OPERATIONS BCL AND FOLLOWING
THE NORMAL RESTRICTION OF
DOLLARS, THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT
SAYS IN ADOPTING THIS PROVISO,
THE COUNCIL EXPRESSES ITS
INTENT TO REDUCE THE OVERALL
SIZE OF THE CITY'S SWORN POLICE
FORCE.
THE CHIEF OF THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND THE DIRECTOR OF
THE LABOR RELATIONS IMMEDIATELY
ISSUE LAYOFF NOTICES FOR
OFFICER RECRUIT AND PETITION
THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION TO
AUTHORIZE OUT OF ORDER LAYOFFS
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
PRINCIPLES.
AND THAT COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
DESCRIBED WITH SUCH DETAIL.
THE PROVISOS GO ON TO SAY IN
CERTAIN INSTANCES WHERE THERE
ARE TARGETED REDUCTIONS,
THERE'S NOT IN THIS 1 BEFORE
YOU, BUT OTHERS WILL HAVE
TARGETED REDUCTIONS, THE
LANGUAGE WILL SAY THAT THE
COUNCIL FURTHER RE-QUESTIONS TO
IMPLEMENT AFTER FTE REDUCTION
IN THE PERSONNEL ASSIGNED TO
THE SPECIFY UNIT.
THIS QUESTION SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSHOWERS NOT CONFLICT
WITH OR SUPERSEDE THE PRIMARY
INTENT TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF
THE SWORN POLICE FORCE.
THAT'S A LOT.
I'M GOING TO DESCRIBE A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT WHAT THE LAYOFF
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MEANS.
IT'S THE COUNCIL'S ASSUMPTION
THAT THE LAYOFF NOTICES WOULD
BE ISSUED IMMEDIATELY.
IF THIS IS DONE THE COUNCIL HAS
BEEN ADVICE THAT HAD THE
LAYOFFS ARE UNLIKELY TO OCCUR
BEFORE NEGATIVE.
AND JUST FRANKLY TO GIVE NOTICE
TO EMPLOYEES.
FOR THIS REASON.
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT REFLECTS 2
MONTHS SALARY AND BENEFIT FIT
FUNDING.
IT ASSUMES THAT THE LAYOFF
WOULD OCCUR ON NOVEMBER 1st
AND THE SALARY AND BENEFIT
EXPENDITURES ARE FOR NOVEMBER
AND DECEMBER AS WOULD BE
AVAILABLE AFTER THE LAYOFF
OCCURS.
IF IT TAKES LONGER TO BARGAIN
THAN EXPECTED.
THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE
OPTION TO RELEASE THE PROVISO
SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO PAY THE
EMPLOYEES THROUGH THE REST OF
THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.
SO AS COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
SPOKE TO.
THE LAYOFF PROCESS IS GOVERNED
BY RULES ADOPTED BY THE CIVIL
SERVICE COMMISSION.
THE RULES REQUIRE THAT LAYOFF
NOTICES OCCUR AND BE ISSUED
FIRST TO RECRUITS, STUDENT
OFFICERS, AND FINALLY TRAINED
OFFICERS IN ORDER OF REVERSE
SENIORITY.
>> THE NEWEST OFFICERS WILL BE
THE FIRST TO BE LAID OFF.
THE RULES THROW THE CHIEF TO
APPEAL.
AND MAKING SURE THAT THE
LAYOFFS ARE CONSISTENT WITH
CONSENT DECREE REQUIREMENTS.
AND MAKING SURE THAT LAYOFFS
DON'T CONFLICT WITH THE CITY.
FOR THE PROVISOS THAT HAVE
SPECIFY REDUCTIONS TARGETED
REDUCTIONS TO SPECIALITY UNITS,
THE LANGUAGE IS REQUESTING THAT
THE CHIEF
RE-DE-EMPLOYEE HER FORCES.
I SHOULD NOTICE THAT THE
CHARTER PROVIDES AUTHORITY FOR
THE CHAFE TO DEPLOY HER FORCES
AS SHE SEES FITS.
IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE
CHIEF.
I'M GOING TO STOP FOR A MOMENT
AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROVISO AND
THE APPROACH THERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, DID
YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS
AMENDMENT?
AMENDMENT 16.
>> SURE, BE HAPPY TO.
SO AMENDMENT 16 IS PART OF A
BROADER PACKAGE.
BUT THE COMBINED ACTIONS IN THE
PACKAGE ARE TO REDUCE THE SIZE
OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BY 100
SWORN FTEs THIS YEAR.
THIS PARTICULAR PROVISO IS 32%.
WHEN YOU TAKE THIS 1 TOGETHER
WITH SOME OF THE OTHER 1S THAT
WE'LL DISCUSS LATER.
THAT WOULD BE IF REALIZED A 100
FTE REDUCTION IN SPD FOR JUST
FOR REFERENCE, SPD HAS 1400
SWORN OFFICERS, CURRENTLY.
GREG EXPLAINED.
THE POLICE AND REQUESTS THAT
SHE PURSUE THE OUT OF ORDER
LAYOFF AUTHORITY THAT SHE HAS
THE RIGHT TO REQUEST.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH ALL OF THESE
ARE IDENTIFIED AS A REDUCTION.
AS WE GO THROUGH, SEVERELY SEE
THAT SOME OF THEM ARE
REDUCTIONS AND SOME OF THEM
MIGHT BE A REQUEST TO ELIMINATE
A UNIT.
AND THEY'RE ALL CALLED
REDUCTIONS OUT OF RECOGNITION
THAT IT'S THE CHIEF WHO HAS THE
YOU WANT DECISION MAKING
AUTHORITY.
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A UNION
EXISTS OR NOT.
>> SO ACTUALLY,ITY,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
YOU WERE JUST GOING INTO MY
NEXT SECTION.
AND YOU'VE ADDRESSED A LOOT OF
IT.
>> THE APPROACH WAS 100
OFFICERS ACROSS ALL THESE RE-
ADDICTIONS AND THE WAY THAT
PLAYING OUT.
I THINK YOU CAPTURED IS THAT
THERE ARE TARGETED REDUCTIONS
AND THOSE WILL TOTALS TO 38
PERSONNEL.
THERE'S A GENERAL REDUCTION OF
32 PERSONNEL AND THAT IS THE
AMENDMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
AND THEN THERE'S AN AMENDMENT
THAT WILL COME UP LATER THAT
ASSUMES ADDITIONAL ATTRITION IN
THE DEPARTMENT.
IT SHOWS THAT 30 OFFICERS WILL
CHOOSE TO RESIGN.
THE DEPARTMENTS EXPECTS ABOUT
25 AND THE COUNCIL BELIEVES
THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CLIMB
TO 55 IN RECOGNITION OF SOME OF
THE INFORMATION THAT HAS COME
OUT RECENTLY ABOUT OFFICERS
APPLYING TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO THE COMBINED TOTAL OF
ALL OF THOSE WILL MAKE 70
ACTUAL LAYOFFS.
AND AND HOW THAT WILL BREAK OUT
AMONG THE FULL FORCE.
LAYOFFS OF 53 RECRUITS AND 16
STUDENT OFFICERS, AND THERE
WILL NOD BE.
>> WHILE THERE ARE NOT FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS SUBJECT TO
LAYOFF RIGHT NOW.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT
OFFICERS WILL CONTINUE TO
SEPARATE AS THEY RETIRE AND
TAKE OTHER JOBS.
THE LAYOFFS WILL EVENTUALLY
START TRANSFERRING TO VACANCIES
IN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THE CHIEF WILL HAVE TO
DETERMINE WHERE TO ALLOCATE THE.
>> THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU
IDENTIFIES THE NUMBER OF
PERSONNEL IN SPD.
TOUCH THERE'S A TIE POPE.
WHEN ALL OF THE REDUCTIONS ARE
REALIZED.
THE ATRIKES RE-DYINGSES SWELL.
ABOUT A 7% RE-DYINGS OF
SEATTLE'S SWORNED ABOUT 78 TO
80 OFFICERS AND THAT BEING
MYOVER VIEW AND HITTING THE
HIGH POINTS OF THE FIRST
AMENDMENT.
THIS AMENDMENT 16 WOULD REDUCE
BY 32 OFFICERS AND $533,000.
THE PATROL OPERATIONS ECL AS WE
HAVE DISCUSSED.
THAT MONEY IS RESTRICTED TO
THAT THE MONEY GOT ON THE
ASSUMPTION LAYOFFS BETWEEN NOW
AND NOVEMBER 1st AND IF THEY
DOESN'T HAPPEN AND THE MONEY
HAS TO BE RELEASED.
THE COUNCIL COULD BE ABLE TOO
THAT.
AND I I
>> CHIEF BEST HAS THE AUTHORITY
TO CHANGE HER DEPLOYMENT.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW HOW
ULTIMATELY THIS WOULD PLAYOUT.
THE ATTRITION RE-DYINGS OR ANY
QUESTIONS BEFORE WE SPECIFIC
REDUCTIONS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS IS
FIRST.
AND DAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING
YOU'D LIKE TO ASK BEFORE WE GO
TO QUESTIONS.
>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT
GREG SAID.
WHAT I WANTED TO GO WAS SHOW
LIE WHAT.
AND WHAT CENTRAL STAFF'S SUN
BREAKS IS FOR NOT ONLY THIS.
WE RECOGNIZE AND AGREE WITH
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD THAT THAT
IS, THAT THERE IS THE
POSSIBILITY OF A DIFFERENT
ORDER OF LAYOFFS.
WE HAVE CONSERVATIVELY
CONCERNED THAT THE ORDER OF
THEYED WILL BE BY SENIORITY.
I WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO
SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
WE RECOGNIZE THATTER?
AND WE JUST HAD TO MAKE SOME
WORKING
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, YOUR
FIRST, FOR QUESTIONS.
>> I HAD 2 QUICK QUESTIONS.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE
IO IN ORDER OF SENIORITY.
WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC, I WOULD
IMAGINE AS THOSE ARE PROBABLY
THE OFFICERS THAT CAME IN AND I
JUST WANTED TO ASKING AND SINCE
IT WOULD HIT THE RECRUITS AND
FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS FIRST.
MY SECOND QUESTION, IN REGARDS
TO THIS PRESENTATION IS IN THE
MOST SORT OF OPTIMISTIC
SCENARIO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO
BARGAIN THE RESULT OF THESE
CHANGES, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO
REALIZE ANY SAVINGS IN 2020
THAT WE COULD REINVESTMENT FROM
THIS PATROL OPERATIONS
AMENDMENT.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU.
FIRST I'M GOING TO TAKE A STEP
BACK AND THANK MY COLLEAGUE,
DAN, FOR TALKING A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE FISCAL.
AND THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE
PROVISO THAT 10 T OUT IF THEY
NEED TO BE CHANGED.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD
HAPPEN.
CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL DOESN'T
WISH FOR THE EXECUTIVE TO SEE
THE NUMBERS AND THEN COME BACK
AND SAY.
AS, THERE'S A BEHIND THE SCENES
TRUEUP TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
COUNCIL'S INTENT IS FULFILLED.
BUT IT'S REALLY 100 OFFICERS.
WE WENT PSYCHOLOGIST ON THAT
BECAUSE WE HAD TOO.
IN THE CASE THAT SAVINGS ARE
NOT AVAILABLE OR REALIZED.
WE THAT SEGUES INTO AN ANSWER
TO QUESTION.
THAT ALL DEPENDS ON THE
BARGAINING PROCESS.
THE LAW DEPARTMENT HAS HAVE.
IT COULD GOO BEYOND A FEW
MONTHS.
IF IT IS THE CASE THAT IT IS
EASIER BARGAINING AND IT
HAPPENS MORE QUICKLY, IT
HAPPENS IN TIME FOR THE COUNCIL
TO PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD
GRAB THE MONEY THAT IS
PROVISOD.
AND REDISTRIBUTE IT ACCORDING
TO THE PRINCIPLES THAT MANY OF
YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT TO
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
THEN THAT CERTAINLY IS A
POTENTIAL.
IN THE CASE THAT THERE ISN'T A
VEHICLE IN FRONT OF THE
COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL COULD
INITIATE TO TAKE THAT FUNDING.
>> IT'S A MATTER OF WAITING TO
SEE HOW ETHICS PLAY OUT.
AND WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST
QUESTIONS.
>> THE LAST 5 CLASSES HAVE BEEN
THE MOST DIVERSE AND THE LAST
CLASS HAS 39% PEOPLE OF COLOR.
THE HIGHEST CLASS OF THAT CAME
THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD.
>> JUST AS A QUICK FOLLOW-UP
AND I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING
HOW THIS IS TIED TO THE BARGAIN
PROCESS.
WOULD THAT MEAN, WERE THE
SPONSORS ASSUMING SAVINGS FROM
THE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE PUT
INTO THE INVESTMENT PORTIONS OF
THE PACKAGE?
OR ARE WE CONSERVATIVE JUST
HOPING TO COME IN AND TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF A FASTER
BARGAINING TIME TUNNEL.
RATHER ATLANTA A SAVINGS THAT
WOULD BE ASSUMED IN NEGATIVE OR
SOMETHING.
>> THERE'S NO PROPOSAL TO SEND
THE CAUGHT.
TO HOLD US ALL ACCOUNTABLE.
THE FOLKS THAT ARE
PARTICIPATING IN THE BARGAINING
PROCESS, IT'S INTENDED TO GET
THAT PROCESS MOVING MORE
QUICKLY THAN WAITING UNTIL
AFTER OUR NOVEMBER PASSAGEOF
BUDGET.
AND IF THERE'S AN ASPIRATIONAL
HOME THAT WE CAN GET THERE.
THIS PARTICULAR APPROACH
ASSUMES THAT THIS STRUCTURE IS
THE DIVE STRUCTURE THAT BEST
SETS US UP TO ARGUE THAT THIS
IS IMPACT BARGAINING RECEIVE
DECISION BASED BARGAINING WHICH
WOULD TAKE A MUCH LONGER PERIOD
OF TIME.
AND COULD PUT THE CITY IN A
POSITION WHY WE'D HAVE TO PAY
100 PEOPLE AND BACK PAY.
>>
>> ARE THERE ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS?
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> I WANTED TO PIGGY BACK.
IT WOULD BE UP TO CHIEF BEST ON
THOUSAND THIS WOULD BE
OPERATIONALLIZED.
AND WANTED TO FLAG MY
INTERESTING IN HEARING FROM
CHIEF BEST ON HOW THE MIGHT I
JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT
EVENTUALLY WE SHOULD HEAR HOW
SHE MIGHT IMPLEMENT SOME OF
THESE CHANGES.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT
I DO HAVE COMMENTS.
IS THIS WHEN YOU WANT ME TO DO
THIS?
>> THIS IS FINE, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> AT THE OUTSET I WOULD POINT
ALL THAT MEANWHILE, THERE ARE
MANY AMENDMENTS ON THE.
DEMANDED THAT THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT BE DEFUNDED
BUT AT LEAST 50%.
AND 7 OF THE 9 COUNCILMEMBERS
HAVE PROMISED TO DO SO WHICH IS
A TESTAMENT TO HOW MUCH
PRESSURE IS MOVEMENT HAS PUT ON
THE CITY'S ACCOMPLISHMENT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TIME FOR
THE CONCRETE BUDGET AMENDMENTS,
THE MAJORITY OF THE
COUNCILMEMBERS DO NOTHING
CLOSE.
IT DEFUNDS THE POLICE BY 0.
IT'S ONLY A PROVISO.
WHY NOT REDUCE THE POLICE
FUNDS.
EVEN IF THIS WERE TO DEFUND THE
PLACE RATHER THAN BEING A
PROVISO.
WE DO NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT
THIS IS SO SMALL COMPARED TO
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
BUDGET THAT IT COMES OUT TO BE
SOMETHING LIKE A ROUNDING
ERROR.
THE POLICE HAD NO PROBLEM
SPENDING IN OVERTIME TO ABUSE
THE PROTESTERS IN THE FIRST 12
DAYS.
AND THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS IDEA
THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO DEFUND
THEM RIGHT NOW BY HALF A
MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS NOT
EVERYONE ENOUGH BUT AT LEAST IT
WOULDN'T BE A PRO-VICE SEW.
$533,000 REPRESENTS $409
MILLION ANNUAL BUDGET.
TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S NOT 13%.
IT'S NOT 1%.
IT'S 13/100 OF 1%.
IT'S SMALL ENOUGH TO BE A
ROUNDING ERROR IN THE POLICE
BUDGET I HAVE HEARD SEVERAL
DISUSES FOR FAILING TO FOLLOW
THROUGH.
AND WE SEE SOME OF THE EXCUSES
REFLECTED HERE.
WE JUST HAIRED THAT LAYOFFS
TAKE EFFECT UNTIL NOVEMBER.
THIS IS NOT TRUE.
MY OFFICE HAS DISCUSSED THIS
WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE.
AND THERE'S NO LAW THAT
DISCUSSES A DELAY.
THE POLITICAL ACCOMPLISHMENT
HAS 2 SETS OR RULES.
>> THE ANOTHER FOR EVERY OTHER
UNION WHICH PROVIDES SERVICES
TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS,
ESPECIALLY THOSE MARGINALIZED.
THE POLITICAL ACCOMPLISHMENT
BUDGET CUTS WITH STUNNING
RAPIDITY.
200 DRIVER LAYOFFS THAT WILL
TAKE EFFECT.
AS FAR AS WE KNOW.
THIS WILL TAKE TIME.
WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE.
OUR MOVEMENT IS OPPOSED TO A
TAX.
I AM COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO SUCH
>> THIS IS NOT A BUDGET CUT.
DEFUNDING THE SPD IS NOT A
QUESTION OF BUDGET CUTS OR
PFERRED WE WANT TO ADDRESS SOME
GROSS INJUSTICES IN OUR
SOCIETY.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT.
WITHOUT UNION APPROVAL.
AND THEY ARE GETTING READY TO
CARRY OUT BIGGER AND MY BRUTAL
COOK.
WHEN THEY CUT VIE SAL WHEN THE
CITY COUNCIL 2 YEARS AGO REELED
THE AMAZONS ACT.
THEY DID THAT GA GAVEN, ALL OF
IT HAPPENED IN 2 DAYS.
THE CITY KNEADS TO BE ABLE TO
NEGOTIATE.
BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT
THE NEGOTIATIONS BE A
PROTRACTED PROCESS.
EITHER LATER TODAY OR MONDAY WE
WILL BE DISCUSSING SEVERAL
AMENDMENTS TO DEFUND THE POLICE
AS THE COMMUNITY IS DEMANDING
IT IS MY HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL
WILL PASS THESE AMENDMENTS AND
THE MAYOR WILL ACT ON THEM
RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL
NOVEMBER.
WE SEE HERE.
DEFUND THE POLICE AND THE
POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT SAYS
YES, WE WILL AGREE.
AND THEN WE SAY HE WOULD ALONG.
IF YOU ACCEPT THAT THE PROVISO
WILL LEAD TO DEFUNDING IF YOU
ACCEPT THAT IT TAKES EFFECT IN
NOVEMBER.
MY OFFICE HAS ADDED UP ALL OF
THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE
COSPONSORS BY COUNCILMEMBERS
HERBOLD, MOSQUEDA.
AND THEY ONLY COME TO $2.6
MILLION WHICH IS ONLY A 1.5%
REDUCTION IN THE REMAINING
BUDGET.
AND THE.
THAT CLEARLY DOES NOT SQUARE
WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS
CALLING FOR.
AND YOU PROBABLY SAW THE NEW
IRONICALLY BUSINESS MOST
>> I THINK THE REMAINING
POLICES OUT ISN'T IN THE
BALLPARK.
OUR MOVEMENT IS CALLING FOR
DEFUNDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BY AT LEAST 50% BECAUSE SO MUCH
OF WHAT THEY DO IS HARMFUL TO
OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE PATROLS AND ARMED
RESPONSES TO MANY 911 CALLS
THAT PUT PEOPLE IN DANGER.
>> NEIGHBORHOODS OF COLOR AND
HOMELESS AND POOR PEOPLE.
THEY SPEND MILLIONS RATING.
MILLIONS ON THE STREETS OF
HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.
OUR MOVEMENT IS DEMANDING
SERIOUS REDUCTIONS IN THE SIZE
OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WHILE TOTALLY INADEQUATE.
AND MAINLY BECAUSE THESE SMALL
REDUCTIONS IN THE SIZE OF THE
POLICE FORCE ARE SOMETHING THAT
SHOULD BE CLAIMED BY A VICTORY
BY THE MOVEMENT.
AND THE NATION CHANGES IN THE
PAST HAVE BEEN ALMOST UNHEARD
OF.
THE PROVISOS OF THE BUDGET DO
NOT SATISFY THE DEMAND OF THE
MOVEMENT TO DEFUND THE POLICE,
LET ALONE BY 50%.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE REORGANIZING
WE HAVE JURY SERVICE.
>> FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY BLACK AND
BROWN COMMUNITIES, AFTER YEARS
OF BLACK AND BROW.
>> SEATTLE POLICE KILLED WITH
IMPUNITY 28 PEOPLE AFTER THE
OUTRAGEOUS DEMONSTRATION OF THE
PAST 2 MONTHS INCLUDING NURSES
AND EVEN OBSERVERS, PEOPLE IN
WHEELCHAIRS, CHILDREN,
INDEPENDENT MEDIA AND OTHERS,
AFTER WEEKS OF PEOPLE
SUSTAINING TEAR GAS, AND, IT'S
WAY PAST TIME FOR THE POLITICAL
ESTABLISHMENT TO ACT.
THANK
YOU.
>>> IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
>> OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE DO GET TO ALL THE COMMENTS
TODAY.
AND INCLUDING ASKING THE
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW SOON
POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS CAN BE
ACTUALIZED AND REALIZED IN
TERMS OF COST SAVINGS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT
QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE A WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD SAID.
WHEN IT CAN BE REALIZED MAKES A
BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW
MUCH MONEY WE'RE ABLE TO GET
OUT TO THE COMMUNITY OR REDUCE
THE BUDGET.
AS A REMINDER, THE BUDGET
PROCESS BEGINS FOR THE NEXT
BIENNIAL BUDGET IN 6 WEEKS AND
DOING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IS
THE SPIRIT.
LOOKING.
YOU'RE GOOD?
>> 1 QUICK COMMENT.
I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THESE
ARE NOT RULES THAT ARE SPECIAL
FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
THE APPROACH TO DOING LAYOFFS
ARE, IS, EXISTS FOR WORKERS
BECAUSE THEY'RE PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES AND THEY HAVE
PROTECTION AS PUBLIC BOYS.
SOB IS A WANT MENTIONED TRANSIT
LAYOFFS.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S TRUE THAT
THE LAYOFFS WERE IMMEDIATE.
WE'VE BEEN INFORMED BY THE LAW
DEPARTMENT.
AND TOGETHER WE'VE RECEIVED
THIS BRIEFING THAT THERE'S A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ADVANCE
NOTICE CONSIDERED REASONABLE
ADVANCE NOTICE OF LAYOFFS.
AND AS WE'VE ALLUDED TO, UPON
RECEIPT OF LAYOFFS.
A LABOR UNION CAN ARGUE THAT
THE LAYOFFS SHOULD BE
BARGAINED.
AND TO PUT US IN THE BEST
POSITION POSSIBLE.
TO ARGUE IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE
CAN.
ANOTHER APPROACH WILL NOT
REALIZE THE NUMBERS OF DOLLARS
THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC MAY BE
LED TO
BELIEVE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY
ADDITIONAL FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE
TO ADD THEIR NAMES AS A
COSPONSOR.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, THANK
YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS
AND COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AMENDMENT
PLEASE.
>> MOVING ON TO THE NEXT
AMENDMENT.
WE'RE STARTING TO GET NOW INTO
THE AMENDMENTS THAT MAKE
SPECIFIC REDUCTIONS IN
SPECIFIC, I'M GOING TO NOTE
THAT THE CHIEF GETS TO DECIDE
THAT.
THE PROVISO SIMPLY MAKES THE
REQUEST WHEN THE LAYOFF HAPPENS
THAT THE VACANCY WILL BE ADDED
TO THIS UNIT.
THERE'S A PROVISO THAT
RESTRICTS FUNDING FOR PATROL
OPERATIONS FOR 84
THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IT ASSUMES THERE WOULD BE
LAYOFF NOTICES ISSUED.
AND PROBABLY LESS SENIOR
OFFICERS.
THIS RE-DYINGS.
TENDS TO THE STABLES.
FOR THE HOW ABOUTED UNIT.
THE MOUNTED UNIT IS A SPECIALTY
UNIT THAT FOCUSES ON COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT, OUTREACH, AND
DEMONSTRATION MANAGEMENT.
I'M GOING TO AS I'M DESCRIBING
THESE REDUCTIONS ALSO INDICATE
WHAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS SAID
ABOUT THE REDUCTIONS TO PRESENT
SORT OF A BALANCED APPROACH TO
THE INFORMATION THAT IS BEING
PRESENTED TO ALL
COUNCILMEMBERS.
AND THE SPD SAID THAT
ELIMINATING THE UNIT WOULD
IMPACT THE ABILITY TO BUILD
TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THE MOUNTED UNIT CURRENTLY
CONSISTS OF 4 SWORN AND 1
CIVILIAN.
IF THE CHIEFS TO REDEPLOY, IT
WILL ULTIMATELY WIND UP IN THE
ENTIRE ELIMINATE NATION OF THE
UNION.
YOU WOULD.
SO AMENDMENT 18 IS A REDUCTION
TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THIS REDUCTION IS AGAIN A
PROVISO.
>> I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU MEANT MOVE
ON TO THE NEXT AMENDMENT.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COLLEAGUES WHO WOULD LIKE TO
ADD THEIR NAME.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
GO AHEAD.
>> I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT
THIS
THE
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COSPONSORS.
PLEASE CONTINUE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
I SHOULD ALSO MENTION TO
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT'S COMMENT
THAT IT IS A VERY SMALL
REDUCTION.
AGAIN, IT'S SALARY SAVINGS FOR
ONLY 2 MONTHS AND THE LOWEST
PAID OFFICERS.
THIS KIND OF REDUCTION WHEN
ANNUALIZED WILL BE QUITE A BIT
BIGGER.
IT WOULD MEAN THAT THE SPD
WOULD ULTIMATELY SELL THE
STABLE AND THE HORSES AND
REDUCE OVERHEAD BY THE AMOUNT
OF FACILITIES COSTS FOR THE
STABLES.
SO THE COST WILL GROW OR THE
SAVINGS WILL GROW IN THE OUT
YEARS.
IT'S INITIALLY QUITE LOW
BECAUSE IT'S 2 MONTHS.
A REDUCTION PROVISO OF $83,330
AND THAT WOULD REDUCE OR CREATE
THE NEED FOR 5 OFFICER LAYOFFS
AS REQUESTED BY THE COUNCIL.
AND TO INDICATE WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT DOES, SPD HAS SAID
THIS SPECTACULAR SECTION HAS A
NUMBER OF COMMUNITY.
PRECINCT PICNICS, YOUTH
OUTREACH, COMMUNITY LIAISONS,
AND THE COMMUNITY POLICE
ACADEMY.
AND THERE'S A FALSE ALARM UNIT
IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION.
THIS SECTION HAS 11 FTE'S SWORN
AND 5 VACANCIES.
IF THE CHIEF CHOSE TO REDUCE
PERSONNEL, SHE WOULD REDUCE THE
PERSONNEL FROM 11 SWORN DOWN TO
6.
>> IT WAS HELPFUL TO HEAR THE
ANNUALIZED COST IF YOU WERE
ABLE TO EXTRAPOLATE THAT.
COULD YOU SHARE THAT AS YOU
LOOK AT VARIOUS AMENDMENTS.
I THINK IT'S A FAIRLY EASY
CALLLATION.
IT IS 4 A BRAND NEW OFFICER,
ONE THAT IS ON THE FIRST YEAR
OF DEPLOYMENT, A STUDENT
OFFICER, IT'S ABOUT $100,000 A
YEAR.
SO YOU CAN TAKE EACH LAYOFF AND
MOISTURE IT TIMES $100,000.
AND THAT'S A SUM OF WHAT THE
ANNUAL COSTS OR SAVINGS WILL BE
WHEN THAT PERSON IS NO LONGER
WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
THERE WILL BE OVERHEAD AND
ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS BUT WE'RE
NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT
THOSE TODAY.
BUT JUST TO SAY THAT ABOUT
$100,000 AN OFFICER.
>> I'M GOING TO PAUSE FOR THE
COSPONSORS.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE
ANNUALIZED COST AND HOW WE
WOULD SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
THAT INFORMATION IS REALLY
IMPORTANT.
RELATIVE TO THE ENTIRE SPD
BUDGET.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE AMOUNT
OF INVESTMENTS THAT WE'D LIKE
TO SEE PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY
AND RE-ENVISION COMMUNITY
SAFETY STRATEGIES.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS
WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE
EXTRAPOLATED THE NUMBER.
THE INTENT WAS TO GO THROUGH
EACH OF THE AMENDMENTS IN FRONT
OF US AND I WANT TO THANK
CHRISTINA FROM COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD'S OFFICER.
AND CODY FROM COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ'S OFFICE.
AND THE FOLKS WITH
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES' OFFICE.
AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE VARIOUS
AMENDMENTS AND TELLS THE FULL
STORY OF WHAT TO EXPECT.
THANK YOU TO THE TEAMS THAT
HAVE DONE THAT AND FOR
HIGHLIGHTING WHEN WE GO THROUGH
WHAT THE POTENTIAL ANNUALIZED
REDUCTIONS TO THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE.
AND THAT GIVES US A BETTER
PICTURE OF HOW MUCH DOLLARS ARE
AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> MAY I ASK A POINT OF ORDER?
>> 39 AMENDMENTS ARE YOU SAYING
THAT WITH EACH AMENDMENT YOU'LL
GIVE US AN APPROXIMAIZATION OF
WHAT THE SAVINGS OR COST OR
REDUCTION IS SO WE CAN LIKE
NOTE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH
THEM?
SO ARE WE EXPECTING AT THE END
OF THE 39 TO HAVE A TOTAL?
DID I MISS SOMETHING?
I'M NOT HOLDING YOU TO THAT
NUMBER.
JUST A BALLPARK FOR PEOPLE
LISTENING AND WATCHING.
KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT SAID.
IS THERE GOING TO BE AN
APPROXIMATION OF WHAT THAT
MEANS FOR 2020?
>> I THINK THE INTENT WOULD BE
TO TRY TO HAVE AN APPROXIMATION
OF THE LINE ITEMS THAT ARE
PROVIDING DETAIL.
SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS ARE,
THEY DO NOT HARMONIZE SO WE'LL
HAVE TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS.
BUT IN THEORY AT THE END OF
MONDAY'S PRESENTATION, YOU
COULD HAVE THAT EXTRAPOLATED
AMOUNT.
AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK
TOWARDS IF WE ARE ABLE TO SEE
THE TYPE OF AMENDMENT MENU.
WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO THAT
MATH.
DID I MISSPEAK THERE?
>> I THINK THAT'S TRUE FOR MANY
OF THESE ITEMS WHERE THERE'S A
DISCRETE LAYOFF.
IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED WHEN
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH
SAVINGS COULD HAPPEN WHEN WE
DIVEST OURSELVES OF THE
STABLES.
>> I GUESS -- I'M NOT ASKING
YOU TO GET DOWN TO HOW MUCH A
HORSE COSTS AND HOW MUCH IT IS
WHEN YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE
BUDGET.
X TO Y IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING
AT.
>> I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE
COST OF THE STABLE WHEN WE SELL
IT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE CAN DO THAT EX-
TRAPLATION WE WILL DO SO.
AND IF NOT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK TOWARDS THE GOAL.
I DON'T WANT TO OVERCOMMIT
ANYBODY FROM CENTRAL STAFF.
>> WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADD
THEIR NAME TO 18?
>> STRAUSS, LEWIS,
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> AMENDMENT 19 IS A SPECIFIC
REDUCTION FOR THE SCHOOL
RESOURCE OFFICERS, MOST FOLKS
ARE FAMILIAR THAT EARLIER THIS
YEAR THE SCHOOL RESOURCE
OFFICER PROGRAM WAS ENDED BY
SPD AND THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THE 5 OFFICERS THAT WERE
ASSIGNED TO THE PROGRAM HAVE
NOW BEEN REASSIGNED TO OTHER
SECTIONS WITHIN THE SPD.
BUT HERE AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE
APPROACH OF THE APPROACH.
JUST LIKING FOR A GENERAL
REDUCTION OVERALL IN THE SIZE
OF THE FORCE, THERE IS A
PROVISO THAT IS LEVIED IN THE
AMOUNT OF 83,000.
AND THERE'S A LAYOFF AMOUNT OF
5 OFFICERS.
AND IT WOULD BE ABOUT $500,000.
OF COURSE, IF THE OUT OF ORDER
LAYOFFS ARE ACTUALLY HAPPEN,
THAT COULD BE OFFICERS THAT
MAKE MUCH MORE MONEY AND
PRODUCE MUCH MORE SAVINGS THAN
LAYING OFF A NEWER OFFICER.
AND SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY
ON 19.
>> THANK YOU.
AMENDMENT 19.
DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
CONS PRESIDENT, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> I WANTED TO JUST REALLY
QUICKLY GREG ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
SOME OF OUR LANGUAGE IN HERE
MIGHT NOT BE SECONDLY CORRECT.
SO WHICH WILL COME TO LIGHT
BASED ON MY COMMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL I WANTED TO SAY
THANK YOU TO THE GOOD FOLKS AT
THE SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THE
SCHOOL BOARD, AND
SUPERINTENDENT DENISE JUNEAU
FOR THEIR STRONG COMMITMENT TO
THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE
DISCUSSING HERE AND OF COURSE
ON JUNE 9, 2020, SUPERINTENDENT
JUNEAU HOSTED A MESSAGE ON HER
BLOG AND SENT A MESSAGE TO A
PARENT AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC
ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT
TO JUST READ QUICKLY FROM HER
STATEMENT.
AND THEN I'LL END BY TALKING
ABOUT WHAT ACTIONS THE SCHOOL
BOARD HAS TAKEN THAT SUPPORT
THIS PARTICULAR MAY WANT AND
THE SAVINGS REPRESENTED BY THIS
AMENDMENT.
ACCORDING TO SUPERINTENDENT
JUNEAU, SHE SAID QUOTE WHILE
THE FOCUS OF THE SCHOOL
EMPHASIS OFFICERS HAS BEEN TO
BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND PROVIDE
ASSISTANCE, THE INTENDED
CONSEQUENCES IN OUR BUILDING
BRING DISTRESS TO OUR YOUNG
PEOPLE.
THESE OFFICERS DO NOT DO ANY
ENFORCEMENT.
BUT THEY ARE ARMED AND AT THIS
MOMENT, THE PRESENCE OF AN
ARMED OFFICERS PROHIBITS MANY
FROM FEELING SAFE AND WELCOME.
FOLLOWING THAT STATEMENT ON
JUNE 9, 2020 BUT SUPERINTENDENT
JUNEAU, THE SEATTLE SCHOOL
BOARD TOOK UP IN THEIR ONE OF
THEIR REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS A
RESOLUTION 2019.
IN THAT RESOLUTION, THEY
AFFIRMED THE SEATTLE PUBLIC
SCHOOL'S COMMITMENT TO BLACK
STUDENT, THEY ACKNOWLEDGED
THAT SINCE 2005, THE SCHOOL
EMPHASIS OFFICERS PROGRAM WHICH
IS 4 SPD ARMED OFFICERS IN IT.
AND THEIR SCHOOL RESOURCE
OFFICER'S PROGRAM WHICH HAS 1
ARMED SPD OFFICER IN AND HAS
BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2005
WITHIN SPECIFY SCHOOLS.
THAT RESOLUTION IN EFFECT
INDICATED THAT THE SEATTLE
SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS MAKING THE
POLICY CHOICE TO INDEFINITELY
ISSUE A MORATORIUM ON THE
PROGRAM THAT RELATES TO THE
SCHOOL EMPHASIS OFFICERS AND
SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS
PROGRAM.
AND INSTEAD, THE DISTRICT HAS
COMMITTED TO WORKING IN
CONSULTATION WITH, PARTICULARLY
AND STUDENTS DIRECTLY IMPACTED
BY POLICING IN SCHOOLS TO
IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE COMMUNITY-
BASED RESTORATIVE MENTORSHIP.
AND THE DISTRICT AND THE BOARD
ALSO COMMIT TO WORKING WITH US
AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
KING COUNTY
PROSECUTORS OFFICE. SO AGAIN,
OUR PARTNERS IN THE SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE ALREADY
TAKEN A POLICY POSITION ON THIS
ISSUE.
THIS AMENDMENT IS A REALIZATION
OF THE SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH
THAT POLICY DECISION BY OUR
PARTNERS IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS
AND I WANT TO THANK
SUPERINTENDENT JUNEAU AND
MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR
PASSING THAT RESOLUTION AND FOR
GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO
REALIZE THE SAVINGS.
AND LOOK FORWARD TO OUR
CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH
SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN AN
EFFORT TO DISMANTLE
INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND TO
REMOVE ARMED OFFICERS FROM
SCHOOLS WHICH DOES PERPETUATE
MISTRUST.
NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THEIR
PRESENCE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT AS
TEXTURE AND SUPPORT FOR THIS
PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS I
KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ
WOULD LIKE TO COSPONSOR.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU?
>> NO, I'M GOOD.
>> ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM
CHAIR.
I WILL ALSO BE HAPPY TO
COSPONSOR THIS AMENDMENT.
I DID JUST WANT TO CITE FOR
EVERYONE'S INDULGENCE THAT
THERE WAS A REALLY INTERESTING
ARTICLE IN THE ECONOMIST FOR
JULY 18th ON THIS TOPIC ABOUT
SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT
CITED THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
INTERESTING RESEARCH ABOUT
CORRELATION IN A LOT OF STUDIES
WITH ACTUALLY DECLINING COLLEGE
ENTRANCE AND DECREASE IN TEST
SCORES AND NOT MUCH OF A CAUSAL
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
PRESENCE OF SCHOOL RESOURCE
OFFICERS AND A REDUCTION OF
VIOLENCE ON CAMPUS OR OTHER
THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO LOOK
AT A LOT OF THE RESEARCH ON HOW
WHILE IT MAY HAVE BEEN A
PROGRAM WITH GOOD INTENTIONS AT
1 POINT.
I THINK WE DO HAVE MUCH MORE
EFFECTIVE YOUTH MENTORSHIP
PROGRAMS THAT WORK MUCH MORE
EFFECTIVELY TO ACCOMPLISH THE
SAME UNDERLYING TASK OF
MAINTAINS SAFE CAMPUSES AND
BUILDING COMMUNITY IN A MUCH
MORE EFFECTIVE WAY.
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS
AMENDMENT AND APPRECIATE THE
WORK OF THE SPONSORS IN PUTTING
THIS TOGETHER.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> I'D LIKE TO SIGN ON.
>> I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ,
LEWIS, STRAUSS, ADDITIONAL
COUNCILMEMBERS, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT AND OKAY, THANK YOU.
SO THAT GOES ALONG WITH
HERBOLD, GONZALEZ, AND
MOSQUEDA.
LET'S MOVE ON.
>> AMENDMENT 20 IS A REDUCTION
TO SWORN STAFFING BY
RECOGNIZING UNPLANNED
ATTRITION.
AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS
PARTICULAR AMENDMENT IS THAT
THERE'S A PROVISO FOR ABOUT
$500,000 AGAINST THE PATROL
OPERATIONS.
AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT
THERE WILL BE 30 MORE UNPLANNED
SEPARATIONS BY THE DEPARTMENT
BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 31st.
THE DEPARTMENT BELIEVES THAT
THERE WILL BE 25 SEPARATIONS.
THIS WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE
WOULD BE 55 SEPARATIONS.
BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT TO KNOW
AND PREDICT WHETHER OR NOT
THERE WOULD BE SEPARATIONS,
THIS SPECTACULAR PROVISO IS A
RATHER CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.
IT ASSUMES 1 MONTH'S SALARY FOR
ALL 30 ATTRITIONS REGARDLESS OF
WHEN THEY MIGHT HAPPEN.
THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE
SAVINGS THAN THE HALF A MILLION
DOLLARS.
SO IN TERMS OF ANNUALIZED COSTS
IT WOULD BE PRETTY SAYS TO TAKE
THE LOWEST DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT
AN OFFICER WOULD MAKE, THE
$100,000, AND THAT COULD
TRANSLATE INTO $3 MILLION, AND
I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS ON YOUR
TABLE AND THAT IS A GOOD
CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
IT MAY BE THAT THIS WOULD
CREATE QUITE A BIT MORE
SAVINGS.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SALARY OF
THE OFFICERS WHO LEAVE.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE TO ADD TO THAT.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH,
GREG.
AND YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED
THAT.
DID YOU SHARE THE EXTRAPOLATION
FOR 2021?
>> I THINK THE ESTIMATE ON THE
TABLE OF $3 MILLION IS A
CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE IF ALL 30
OFFICERS LEAVE.
IF ALL 30 OFFICERS LEAVE
BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 31st.
THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
IT COULD BE HIGHER IF IT TURNS
OUT 30 OFFICERS DON'T LEAVE.
AND THE COUNCIL COULD CHANGE
THE PROVISO OR REMOVE IT.
>> OKAY, WONDERFUL.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS,
COLLEAGUES?
>> SEEING NONE, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
>> I JUST WANTED TO, I WAS SLOW
I WANTED TO NOTE THAT I WANT TO
COSPONSOR THE SCHOOL RESOURCE
OFFICER 1. AND FOR ME IN
GENERAL.
I'M GOING TO BE CONFERRING OVER
THE WEEKEND AND WE'LL CIRCLE
BACK WITH ADDITIONAL
COSPONSORSHIPS.
HAVING JUST GOTTEN THESE AND
TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THEM AND
WE'LL GET BACK WITH MORE
COSPONSORSHIPS.
BUT I'M FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH
THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER
ONE.
>> I ADDED YOU TO NUMBER 19.
AND AS YOU REFLECT ON THEM.
IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO OTHERS.
>> ANYTHING ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
OR COSPONSORS.
I SEE COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO GREG, JUST TO CLARIFY, IS
THIS THE ATTRITION THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HAS TOLD US THEY'RE
EXPECTING?
OR IS THIS OUR OWN ADDITIONAL
LURCHL OF WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING
ATTRITION TO BE?
>> IT IS THE LATTER.
THE DEPARTMENT EXPECTING 25
MORE RESIGNATIONS OR
RETIREMENTS BETWEEN NOW AND THE
END OF THE YEAR.
THIS IS COUNCIL'S ASSUMPTION
THAT THERE WOULD BE 30 MORE AND
THAT WOULD BE THE CASE THAT IF
BOTH THINGS CAME TO FRUITION,
THERE WOULD BE 55 SEPARATIONS
BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE
YEAR.
>> AND WHAT IS THAT ASSUMPTION
BASED ON?
>> I THINK IT'S BASED ON THE
SPONSOR'S BELIEF THAT THERE
WILL BE MORE ATTRITION,
FRANKLY, BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT
IS NOW GOING THROUGH LAYOFFS
AND THAT OR MAY BE GOING
THROUGH LAYOFFS AND YOUNGER
OFFICERS MAY LOOK FOR OTHER
JOBS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, DID
YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT?
>> THERE WAS A RECENT ARTICLE
THAT REPORTED THAT 30 OFFICERS
HAD APPLICATIONS OUT IN OTHER
DEPARTMENTS IN THE REGION.
>> SO THIS AMENDMENT ASSUME
THAT IS ALL 30 OF THEM WILL BE
SUCCESSFUL IN THE APPLICATION
PROCESS TO MOVE TO ANOTHER
DEPARTMENT.
>> IT'S VERY -- THERE MAY BE
MORE OFFICERS THAT CONTINUE TO
LOOK FOR WORK IN OTHER
DEPARTMENTS.
I DO RECALL THAT THE ARTICLE
REFERENCED THAT MOST OF THE
DEPARTMENTS THAT OFFICERS WERE
APPLYING WERE ACTUALLY SEEKING
TO HIRE.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT IS A BACK OF THE ENVELOPE
ESTIMATE BASED ON A PARTICULAR
REPORT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A
MOMENT OF TIME.
>> SO WITH A QUESTION TO GREG
ON THAT BASED ON JUST HOW
PROVISOS WORK.
IF THAT, FOR THE SAKE OF THIS
PARTICULAR PROVISO, ARE WE
ASSUMING EVEN IF THE
ATTRITIONAL VACANCIES DON'T
MATERIALIZE, ARE WE BASICALLY
SAYING OUR INTENT IS STILL, YOU
KNOW, THAT IF THERE'S NOT THAT
ATTRITIONAL RESOLVE THAT YOU
STILL LAY PEOPLE OFF UP TO THE
55.
OR WOULD THE EFFECT OF THE
PROVISO BASICALLY BE THAT WE
ARE SORT OF MAKING SPACE FOR
AND ASSUMING UP TO 55 BUT WE
ARE NOT REQUESTING THE
DEPARTMENT TO LAY OFF TO GET TO
THAT NUMBER.
IN THAT LEVEL.
I THINK IT WOULD CROSS TO NOT
BEING ATTRITIONAL ANY MORE.
WE HOPE IT'S 55.
IN THE FOUR CORNERS, BUT IF
IT'S NOT WE WANT YOU TO ROUND
UP.
OR IF IT CAME IN UNDER, WOULD
THAT SATISFY THE PROVISO?
AND WE WOULD JUST REALIZE WHAT
WE GOT UP TO THAT?
>> I THINK THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO
THAT, THE PROVISO STANDS UNTIL
THE COUNCIL REMOVES IT.
500,000 OF THE DEPARTMENT'S
MONEY IS LOCKED UP AND CANNOT
BE ACCESSED UNTIL THE
DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZES FUTURE
SPENDING OR UNTIL THE COUNCIL
AUTHORIZES FUTURE SPENDING.
SO I SUPPOSE THE QUESTION FOR
THE COUNCIL WOULD BE IF THESE
ATTRITION SLOTS WEREN'T
REALIZED WHETHER THEY WOULD,
WHETHER YOU ALL WOULD CHOOSE TO
REELS THAT PROVISO SO THAT
OFFICERS COULD BE PAID?
OR WOULD YOU LEAVE THE PROVISO
IN PLACE AND POTENTIALLY FORCE
LAYOFFS?
AND THAT IS A QUESTION THAT IS
A CALL FOR THE COUNCIL.
>> THANKS, GREG, I APPRECIATE
THAT.
>> I THINK I CAN SAY THAT WITH
THE SITUATION, THE FISCAL
SITUATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT
FINDS ITSELF IN.
THE OVERTIME BUDGET COMPLETELY
SPENT.
THE EQUIPMENT BUDGET COMPLETELY
SPENT RIGHT NOW.
THE DISCRETIONARY BUDGET TRAVEL
AND TRAINING DOWN TO A COUPLE
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IF THAT PROVISO WERE LEFT IN
PLACE.
IT WOULD PROBABLY MEAN LAYOFFS
1 WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING
THAT THE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL
WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK TO.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU.
I WASN'T ORIGINALLY GOING TO
SPEAK ON THIS.
I WILL BE COSPONSORING THEM BUT
THEY ARE SO FAR FROM WHAT NEEDS
TO HAPPEN.
I'M QUITE FASCINATED AND
TROUBLED AT THE SAME TIME THE
DIFFERENCE IN THE LEVEL OF
RIGOR THAT THE ACCOMPLISHMENT
DEMANDS FROM ANY MOVEMENT
COMPARED TO WHAT THE
ESTABLISHMENT PUTS FORWARD
ITSELF IS JUST ABSURD.
THIS IS FOR 12 HURCHTS OF 1%.
AND I'M HAPPY IF GREG WANTS TO
ANNUALIZE THIS.
THIS IS THE EMPTIEST.
THERE ARE NO ACTUAL SAVINGS
BECAUSE THE SAVINGS ARE
ENTIRELY ASPIRATIONAL
EXPRESSING.
THERE WILL BE 30 UNPLANNED
RESIGNATIONS BETWEEN NOW AND
DECEMBER.
THIS IS A HOPE AND PRAYER KIND
OF PROVISO.
I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT GOING TO
PUT MY FAITH IN THE FACT THAT
COPS ARE GOING TO WALK AWAY.
LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THEY MAKE IN OVERTIME.
AND IT'S A JOB THAT SELF-
SELECTS PEOPLE WHO HAVE A
REACTIONARY POSITION OF SOCIAL
ISSUES, THIS IS -- I WILL BE
COSPONSORING IT BUT I WANTED
YOU TO KNOW THAT.
>> I DON'T DISAGREE THAT IT'S
ASPIRATIONAL BUT THE INTENT OF
THE PROVISO IS TO ENSURE THAT
IF THERE ARE SAVINGS ASSOCIATED
WITH A HIGHER THAN EXPECTED
LEVEL OF ATTRITION, WE ARE
CAPTURING THOSE SO WE CAN
ALLOCATE IN A WAY THAT'S
CONSISTENT WITH OUR PRIORITIES.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU ALL.
SEEING NOW ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT 20.
ALL OF THOSE CO-SUPPORT SOR
COSPONSORING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S DO 21.
>> MOVING ON TO AMENDMENT 1á.
THAT IS A REDUCTION IN THE
DEPARTMENT'S PUBLIC AFFAIRS
UNIT.
CURRENTLY HAS 4 SWORN OFFICERS
AND IT HAS 1 VACANCY SO IT'S
NORMALLY STAFFED WITH FIVE
OFFICERS.
AND IT IS THE CASE THAT OR I'M
SORRY, IT'S NORMALLY STAFFED
WITH FOUR OFFICERS AND HAS ONE
VACANCY.
THREE OFFICERS ARE WORKING FOR
SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THE
LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND $50,000 IS THE AMOUNT OF
THE PROVISO.
THERE ARE 4 REQUESTED LAYOFFS
FOR THE ENTIRE UNIT.
JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE
BACKGROUND, THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS
UNIT ANSWERS MEDIA QUESTIONS
AND PUBLISHES INFORMATION ON
SOCIAL MEDIA AND WEBSITE.
IF THIS UNIT WAS CUT THEN THE
MEDIA WOULD NEED TO GO TO THE
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNIT TO GET
STATEMENTS FROM THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW I WAS A LITTLE TONGUE
TIED EARLIER SO IF THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> NEVER TONGUE TIED.
ALWAYS INFORMATIVE.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF
THERE'S COSPONSORS ON THIS?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
STRAUSS, THANK YOU.
AND THEN IS A WANT.
THE NAME WAS COVERING YOUR
HAND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COLLEAGUES.
GREG, I THINK WE ARE GOOD TO
MOVE FORWARD.
>> AMENDMENT 22 IS A REDUCTION
TO THE HOMELAND SECURITY UNIT.
AND REQUESTED FOR LAYOFF.
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS SMALL.
THE 2 MONTHS SAVINGSES FOR A
YOUNGER OFFICER.
THE HOMELAND SECURITY UNIT
CONSISTS OF 11 SWORN WITH THREE
VACANCIES.
AND ANY REDUCTIONS TO THE UNIT
WOULD OF COURSE AFFECT STAFFING
OF THESE EVENTS.
IF THE CHIEF IMPLEMENTED
CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNCIL'S
INTENT IT WILL GO FROM 11 TO 10
WITH THAT I'D ASK IF THERE ARE
ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE MYSELF ON MUTE.
AMENDMENT 22 SPONSORED ANY
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WANT TO JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE
BIT OF CLARITY AND TEXTURE TO
WHAT THIS UNIT IS AND WHAT IT
ISN'T.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW
WHO MADE THE DECISION TO NAME
THIS UNIT HOMELAND SECURITY
UNIT.
BUT I'M REALLY AT A LOSS WHY
SOMEBODY IN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT CHOSE TO NAME THIS
AFTER THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY.
IT'S APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO A
LETTER THAT CHIEF BEST
SEPTEMBER TO ME AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND
POSTED ON TWITTER.
THE JULY 21st, 2020 SHE
INDICATES ON PAGE 6 OF THAT
LETTER THAT IT'S A MISNAMED
UNIT.
AND PROVIDES SOME CLARITY THAT
THIS PARTICULAR UNIT IS NOT
RELATED TO THE FEDERAL AGENCY
OF THE SAME NAME.
AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T
HAVE A LOT OF CLARITY ABOUT
WHAT THIS UNIT IS OTHER THAN
KNOWING THAT IT COORDINATES
ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF.
IT QUOTE COORDINATES SECURITY
AT MAJOR EVENTS IN THE CITY AND
CUTTING IT WOULD LEAD TO ISSUES
WITH STAFFING THESE EVENTS
CLOSED QUOTE.
FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH GREG
DOSS I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS
THE HOMELAND SECURITY BUREAU IS
WHERE THE SPECIAL EVENTS TEAMS
ARE HOUSED AND I JUST WANTED TO
REMIND FOLKS PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW CITY
COUNCIL THAT THERE WAS AN AUDIT
OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS UNIT DONE
IN 2016.
THAT REPORT WAS HEARD IN MY
COMMITTEE.
IT IS A 127 PAGE REPORT THIS
FOCUSED ON POLICE FEES ON COST
RECOVERY.
HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PLANS
AND STAFFS EVENTS AND HOW THEY
ARE BILLING FOR THE THEIR WORK
OR NOT BILLING APPROPRIATELY
FOR THE WORK AND THEREFORE WE
ARE NOT REALIZING REIMBURSEMENT
AT THE SAME, WE'RE IN THE
RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT OR
REALIZING REIMBURSEMENT FROM
THE SPECIAL EVENTS WORK THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT RELATES
TO THAT.
AT THE TIME, I FLAGGED MY
CONCERNS AND I BELIEVE THIS IS
A POLICY QUESTION FOR THE CITY
COUNCIL THAT CONTINUES TO
EXIST.
AS A MATTER OF POLICY, WE
BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL THAT
WE SHOULD ALLOW FOR PROFIT AND
NONPROFIT INTERESTS TO UTILIZE
OUR SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
WHICH IS A PUBLIC AGENCY,
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES TO PROVIDE
THEM PUBLIC SECURITY SERVICES
AT EVENTS ACROSS THE CITY.
AND IN THE PAST, I HAVE
INDICATED THAT I HAVE
SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH THAT
KIND OF MODEL AND BELIEVE THAT
AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THESE
VERY ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY
LIKELY HAVE RESOURCES AND
CAPACITY TO HIRE THEIR OWN
PRIVATE SECURITY SERVICE THAT
IS DON'T REQUIRE THEM TO USE
ARMED LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT IS
LARGELY SUBSIDIZED BY TAXPAYER
DOLLARS AT SOME OF THESE LARGE
EVENTS LIKE BUMBERSHOOT,
SEAHAWKS GAMES, MARINERS GAMES
AND EVENTUALLY HOCKEY GAMES IN
OUR CITY.
SO I THINK THAT CONTINUES TO BE
A POLICY QUESTION.
I THINK THIS PARTICULAR
AMENDMENT PUTS US ON A PATH
TOWARDS MORE HOLISTIC
CONVERSATIONS RELATED TO HOW
AND WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD BE
IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING
PRIVATE SECURITY TO STAFFING
LARGE EVENTS ACROSS THE CITY.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
WELL SAID.
>> IF I MIGHT CAN I ADD A
LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO THIS
SECTION?
>> PLEASE, GO AHEAD CENTRAL
STAFF.
>> COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ
RAISED SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AND
1S THAT SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN
LIGHTLY AROUND SPECIAL EVENTS
AND SHE ALSO RAISED THAT THE
CHIEF'S CONCERN THAT THE UNIT
DOES MORE THAN JUST SPECIAL
EVENTS.
I WANT TO PROVIDE A BIT MORE
DETAIL BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO
GLOSS OVER THE CHIEF'S COMMENTS
THAT THE UNIT DOES OTHER
THINGS.
THERE'S A CAPTAIN IN THE UNIT
THAT DOES THE SPECIAL, AND
CHEMICAL, BIOLOGICAL
RADIOACTIVE AND NUCLEAR AND
EXPLOSIVE WORK.
THERE'S A LIEUTENANT THAT IS A
SECOND IN COMMAND.
A POLICE SERGEANT PATROL THAT'S
A LIAISON.
THERE IS, THERE ARE FIVE PATROL
OFFICERS AND THESE OFFICER
POSITIONS ARE ASSIGNED TO THE
UNIT TO ASSIST WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION
OF STAFFING PLANS IN CONNECTION
WITH LARGE SCALE SPECIAL
EVENTS, INCLUDING EVENTS
COORDINATED BY THE OFFICE OF
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE
SPECIAL EVENT OFFICE.
AND THERE ARE 2 POSITIONS THAT
ARE SPECIFICALLY WORKING IN THE
CHEMICAL, BIOLOGICAL,
RADIOACTIVE, NUCLEAR AND
EXPLOSIVE FIELD.
AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER SERGEANT.
SO IT IS DIVIDED UP AMONGST
SPECIAL EVENTS AND THERE ARE A
COUPLE OF FOLKS DEDICATED TO
WORK ALONG WITH THE CAPTAIN AND
LIEUTENANT.
SO HOPEFULLY, THAT GIVES YOU
BETTER DETAIL ON THAT UNIT AND
THE REDUCTION THAT MIGHT BE
MADE THERE IF THE CHIEF DECIDES
THAT IS WHERE SHE WANTS TO
ALLOCATE THIS REDUCTION.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, GREG.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
ARE THERE FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE
TO ADD THEIR NAME AS A
COSPONSOR.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS,
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT . LET'S
MOVE ON TO AMENDMENT 23.
>> AMENDMENT IF.
THIS PARTICULAR RE-DORKS IS THE
COMMUNITY OUTBREAK
ADMINISTRATION REDUCTION AND WE
TALKED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER
ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
IT IS A SECTION THAT DEALS
PRIMARILY WITH YOUTH VIOLENCE
AND OUTREACH TO ADVISORY
GROUPS.
THIS IS THE CAPTAIN THAT IS IN
CHARGE OF THAT SECTION.
AGAIN, THE LOW DOLLAR AMOUNT
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ASSUMING THE
CAPTAIN IS GOING TO BE LAID OFF
BUT RATHER IT'S GOING TO BE A
MORE JUNIOR OFFICER.
I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS AND THAT'S ALL I
HAVE.
>> OKAY, WONDERFUL.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, COUNCIL
GONZALES.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND ANY
ADDITIONAL FOLKS WANT TO
COSPONSOR?
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT AND
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
THANK YOU.
>> LET'S MOVE ON THE TO
AMENDMENT 24.
THIS 1 IN THE HARBOR PATROL
UNIT.
THIS REDUCTION WOULD ASK THE
CHIEF AND THE TO PROVIDE LAYOFF
NOTICES TO 2 OFFICERS AGAIN IN
THE PATROL OPERATIONS BUREAU
WITH THE HOPE THAT EVENTUALLY
THIS REDUCTION WOULD BE PUT
INTO THE HARBOR PATROL UNIT.
$33,000 IS PROVISOSSED.
BY WAY OF A HIGH LEVEL OF
REVIEW SAY THAT IT'S
RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING
SAFE WATERWAYS AROUND SEATTLE.
AND BOATING SAFETY
INSTRUCTIONS, ACCIDENT REPORTS,
AND INVESTIGATIONS ON INJURIES
AND DEATHS.
ITAs THAT OCCUR ON THE WATER,
SPEED ENFORCEMENT.
LIFE SAFETY CALLS AND A VARIETY
OF DIVING ACTIVITIES AS WELL.
SO THE CHIEF HAS SAID AND THE
CDO HAS SAID THAT THERE WOULD
BE A DECREASE IN CAPACITY.
THE UNIT HAS 30 FTEs AND 2
VACANCIES.
>> ANY ANNUALIZEIZATION
>> JUST FOR THE PERSONNEL
COSTS.
>> IF YOU DO HAVE A REFERENCE
TO 23 THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO.
>> NUMBER 24 IN FRONT OF US.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD JUST A
COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THIS ITEM.
THIS HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE
ARE FUNCTIONS OF THE HARBOR
PATROL UNIT THAT COULD BE
TRANSFERRED TO THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT IN THE FUTURE WHO
HAS A FIREFIGHTERS WATER CRAFT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD
LIKE TO LOOK AT.
THANK YOU FOR TO GREG FOR
IDENTIFYING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF
FTEs AND THE VACANCIES
CURRENTLY.
AND I WANT TO ADD THAT HARBOR
PATROL MAKE $64 PER HOUR.
AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DIVERS
DOING SIMILAR WORK MAKE $49 PER
HUR DOING AGAIN VERY SIMILAR
WORK.
WE WANT TO WORK TO TRY TO
MINIMIZE THE DUPLICATION AND
MAKE SURE THAT THE GOOD WORK
THAT IS BEING DONE BY BOTH FIRE
AND POLICE IN THIS AREA IS
RETAPED WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE
THE UNIQUE SKILLS OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT DOING THAT WORK AND
THAT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
DOING OTHERS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU LIFTING
UP THE IMPORTANCE OF INVESTING
IN OUR FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL.
I THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL
COMPONENT THAT WE CONTINUE TO
WANT TO SEE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS
GOING INTO AS WE THINK ABOUT
WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS.
A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS AND MEDIC
RESPONDERS NEED TO CONTINUE TO
KNOW CORE ELEMENTS THAT THEY'LL
CONTINUE TO PLAY.
THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING
THAT.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS?
COSPONSORS?
ANYBODY INTERESTED IN
COSPONSORING?
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.
>> AMENDMENT 25.
>> BEFORE I GET TO 25.
A COUPLE OF ANNUALIZED COSTS I
FORGOT.
THE HOMELAND SECURITY REDUCTION
WOULD BE $100,000.
AND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH
ADMINISTRATION IS ANOTHER
$100,000.
AND THE AMENDMENTS THE 1 WE
JUST TALKED ABOUT THE HARBOR
PATROL REDUCTION.
THAT'S $200,000, AND WITH THAT
I WILL GO INTO AMENDMENT 25.
>> AND EVERY LITTLE BIT OF OUR
EFFORT TO CAREFULLY ANNUALIZE
WHERE THE DOLLARS COULD BE
MOVED IS IMPORTANT SO THANK YOU
FOR CONTINUING TO HIGHLIGHT.
>> AND AMENDMENT 25 THIS IS
ANOTHER SPECIFIC REDUCTION.
A REDUCTION TO THE S.W.A.T.
TEAM.
THIS WOULD REQUEST LAYOFF OF
TWO FOR A TOTAL OF $33,000 IN
THE LAST MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
AND I THINK MOST FOLKS KNOW
THAT THE SWEAT TEAM PRIMARILY
RESPONDS TO BARRICADED
SUBJECTS, ACTIVE SHOOTER
INCIDENTS, DIGNITARY
PROTECTION, AND HIGH RISK
WARRANT SERVICES.
ANY REDUCTION MIGHT RESULT IN
LESSER TRAINED OFFICERS.
THE UNIT CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF
29 AND HAS FOUR VACANCIES.
AND THIS WOULD ELIMINATE TWO
POSITIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
METAL 25.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON
THIS?
I THINKS THE IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT THIS IS BEEN A POINT OF
QUESTION FROM SOME PREVIOUSLY
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL LINE ITEM
RELATED TO S.W.A.T.
UNIT AND THE RESPONSES FROM OUR
PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE TO RIGHT
SIZE OFF OF THESE LINES,
INCLUDING THIS ITEM.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT 2 FTEs.
>> ANYBODY LIKE TO ADD THEIR
NAMES?
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
OKAY.
AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON
TO AMENDMENT 26.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> OKAY, SO THE AGENDA GOT PUT
TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT WE'LL BE
A LITTLE DISJOINTED.
AMENDMENT 26 IS 1 THAT IS
OFFERED BY COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD AND THIS 1 WOULD
DISAGGREGATE IS PRECINCTS FROM
THE SPD PATROL OPERATIONS.
AND BY WAY OF A LITTLE HISTORY
HERE.
THE COUNCIL HAS FOR MANY, MANY
YEARS LEVIED APPROPRIATIONS AT
THE PRECINCT LEVEL.
THE, IN THE LAST BUDGET THE
PRECINCTS WERE AGGREGATED
CALLED PATROL OPERATIONS.
AND IT WE WANT FROM A VERY
SMALL BUDGET CONTROL LEVEL TO A
BIG BUDGET CONTROL LEVEL.
IT'S NOW $147 MILLION IN THE
ADOPTED BUDGET BECAUSE IT
CONTAINS ALL THE PRECINCTS.
THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT WOULD
GO BACK TO THE WAY THEY USED TO
BUDGET AND WOULD REQUIRE THAT
THERE BE DSLs FOR INDIVIDUAL
PRECINCTS TO ALLOW THE COUNCIL
TO APPROPRIATE AT A LOWER LEVEL
AND GIVE IT MORE CONTROL OVER
FUNDING.
WITH THAT I WOULD TURN IT OVER
TO COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD TO SEE
IF SHE HAD ANY COMMENTS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
IT HAS GO AHEAD.
>> THE ONLY COMMENT I'D LIKE TO
ADD IS I LOOKED INTO THIS ISSUE
WITH SOME ALARM WHEN I HEARD
THAT CHIEF BEST STATED THAT SHE
WOULD ACTUALIZE COUNCILMEMBER
CUT SPD BY CUTTING THE
SOUTHWEST PRECINCT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
COUNCIL IS BUDGETING ON THE
PRECINCT LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN
EXPRESS OUR INTENT TO CONTINUE
TO HAVE FUNDING AND STAFFING
FOR ALL FIVE PRECINCTS IN A WAY
CONSISTENT WITH OUR CHARTER
OBLIGATIONS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
>> ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUAL
COUNCILMEMBERS WHO YOU WOULD
LIKE TO ADD THEIR NAME TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
AMENDMENT, AMENDMENT NUMBER 26?
OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
AMENDMENT.
>> THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS
AMENDMENT 27 WHICH IS
ORIGINALLY SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD BY ALSO
BY, I THINK THAT WAS AN
ASSUMPTION THAT STAFF MADE.
THIS IS A CHANGE IN THE BUDGET
THAT WOULD TAKE THE VICTIM
SUPPORT TEAM AND THE VICTIM
ADVOCATES THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO
SPD AND WOULD REASSIGN THEM TO
THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THERE'S A
VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR IN SPD
THAT COORDINATES THE VICTIM
SUPPORT TEAM.
IT OPERATES CITYWIDE AND IT
PROVIDES TRANSPORTATION,
LOCATION, SHELTER, FOOD, AND
CLOSETING, RESOURCE REFERRALS,
AND ANSWERS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TO
VICTIMS OF CRIMES.
THERE ARE VICTIM ADVOCACIES
THAT SERVE AS THE POINT OF
CONTACT FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
VICTIMS TO SEEK ASSISTANCE.
THEY PROVIDE EARLY
INTERVENTION, ADVOCACY SERVICES
AND ESSENTIALLY GENERAL SUPPORT
TO THOSE WHO ARE VICTIMS OF
VIOLENCE.
UNDER THIS PARTICULAR ACTION,
THE VICTIM ADVOCACIES, 10 OF
THEM AND THE COORDINATOR AND
THE TEAM WOULD BE MOVED TO THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT
SPECIALLY TO THE DSL FOR
SUPPORTING SAFE COMMUNITIES.
THAT TAPES VICTIM ADVOCATES
CONTRACTED WITH THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE OF DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL
ASSAULTS.
SO WITH THAT I WOULD ASK IF
THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
I'M AFRAID I MISSED A COSPONSOR
ON 26.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
DID I MISS YOUR HAND?
THERE YOU ARE.
HI.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
AND I WAS JUST CHECKING MY
ASSUMPTIONS FROM WHAT I
BELIEVED THAT I HEARD.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW US TO
HAVE A FINER, TO DEFINE -- IS
THAT CORRECT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SIGN ON
THIS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I DID
NOT MEAN TO MISS YOU.
>> LOTS GOING ON.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, WE ARE ON
AMENDMENT 27 AS DESCRIBED BY
GREG DOSS AND COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, ONE OF THE COSPONSORS.
>> I THINK GREG COVERED IT
PRETTY WELL.
THIS IS TRANSFERRING THE VICTIM
ADVOCATES OUT OF SPD.
THIS WOULD NOT PROHIBIT THE
VICTIM ADVOCATES FOR CONTINUING
TO WORK WITH SPD WHEN
APPROPRIATE.
THIS TRANSFER WOULD TRANSFER
INTO THE HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT.
AND WE MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT
INCREASING FUNDING FOR THE
COMMUNITY-BASED VICTIM
ADVOCATES LIKE THE VICTIM
ADVOCATES THROUGH FOR INSTANCE
KING COUNTY SEXUAL ASSAULT
RESOURCE CENTER.
THESE VICTIM ADVOCATES ALSO
WORK WITH THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
SO THEIR PARTICULAR LOCATION,
WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE IN HSZ
OR A COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATION DOES NOT.
>> WONDERFUL.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COUNCILMEMBER WHO WOULD LIKE
TO?
OKAY.
MOVING ON TO COSPONSORSHIP?
ADDITIONAL?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.
NUMBER 28.
>> AMENDMENT 28 IS TRANSFERRING
THE DATA.
>> I'M SORRY.
DID I -- APOLOGIES, PLEASE
CONTINUE.
>> NOTAL AUTO.
AMENDMENT 28 IS SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBERS.
STAFF HAS MADE ANOTHER QUICK
ASSUMPTION.
IT'S THE TRANSFER OF AT THE
DRIVEN POLICING POSITIONS
SPECIFICALLY, THE CIVILIAN
POSITIONS FROM SPD TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
IT IS A TRANSFER OF ABOUT
$175,000 AND A TRANSFER OF FIVE
POSITIONS.
THESE PARTICULAR FOLKS DO
COMPLEX DATA ANALYSIS.
THEY MANAGE RESEARCH AGREEMENTS
AND PROVIDE DATA FOR RESEARCH
PARTNERS AND MAINTAIN THE DATA
ANALYTICS PLATFORM WHICH
PROVIDES INFORMATION TO THE.
THE USE OF FORCE.
CRISIS RESPONSE, AND CIVILIAN
MEMBERS PROVIDE 911 CALL
ANALYSIS.
AND DO UNIFORM CRIME REPORTING
FOR THE FBI AND THEY ALSO
PROVIDE DATA FOR OIG.
THE COUNCIL'S INTENT WITH
MOVING THIS TO FAS I UNDERSTAND
IS TO BUILD COMMUNITY TRUST.
WITH THIS MOVE ALL OF THE DATA
IN THE UNIT WOULD, WITHOUT THIS
MOVE ALL OF THE DATA IN THE
UNIT WON CONTROLLED BY COMMAND
STAFF.
UNDER THE COMMAND STAFF.
>> AND AMENDMENT 28 IS
SPONSORED BY HERBOLD, GONE
SALDZ, LEWIS, AND MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU.
AM I UNMUTED?
I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING
GREG WHO HAS BEEN WORKING I'M
PRETTY SURE AROUND THE CLOCK
FOR WEEKS.
FEW GREG FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING
AND THE REST OF CENTRAL STAFF
WHO IS BUSTING AS.
THIS AMENDMENT TRANSFERS AS
GREG SAID AND ONE OF THE FIRST
TIMES I BECAME AWARE OF THE
CHALLENGES AND THE INACCURACIES
WAS BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE
REALLY IMPORTANT WORK THAT
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ WAS DOING.
WHERE WE LEARNED THAT DIVERSE
COMMUNITIES WERE NOT BEING
PROPERLY ACCOUNTED FOR TO
UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT
WE HAVE.
I WILL SAY THAT IN MY COMMUNITY
THERE IS A VERY LEGITIMATE FEAR
THAT DATA IS USED FOR
PREDICTIVE POLICING.
WHICH HAS OFTEN RESULTED IN
YOUNG PEOPLE BEING INCARCERATED
TO PREVENT INVOLVEMENT IN
ESCALATED VIOLENCE WHEN THEY
HAVEN'T COMMITTED A CRIME.
YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT IN
JAIL.
AND GANG ACTIVITY IS UP AND
THEY WANT TO KEEP SOMEONE SAFE.
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE IN
MIND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
INCREASING COMMUNITY SAFETY.
SO THIS IS AN EFFORT TO SHIFT
WELL NOT AN EFFORT.
IT IS INTENDED TO SHIFT TO A
CIVILIAN DEPARTMENT TO BEGIN TO
RESTORE THE COMMUNITY
CONFIDENCE SO THAT INCOMPLETE
OR INACCURATE DATA IS NOT SEEN
AS, AND MORE OBJECTIVE THIRD
PARTY ANALYSTS WHO ARE ACTUALLY
DOING THE WORK OF ANALYZING
POLICE DATA.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON
THIS?
THANK YOU, AGAIN FOR THAT
SUMMARY, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT I'M
INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO ASK
OUR PARTNERS WHO WOULD DO WORK
WITHIN THIS DIVISION IF THERE
IS A TRANSFER AND FOLKS
CONTINUE TO MOVE OUT HOW WE CAN
ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE
APPROPRIATE ACCESS TO THE DATA
THEY NEED IN ORDER TO DO THEIR
WORK.
I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP WITH FOLKS
ON THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW
SPOFT THE ENTITIES HAVE ACCESS
TO THE APPROPRIATE DATA.
THAT WILL BE A BIG PRIORITY AS
WE MOVE FORWARD.
ANY ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS WHO
WOULD LIKE TO ADD THEIR NAME.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AND
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS AND
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
THANK YOU.
AND LET'S MOVE ON.
>> FIRST OF ALL.
I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES FOR RECOGNIZING THE
EFFORTS OF CENTRAL STAFF.
WE WORK TO SERVE YOU.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE
BEEN INVOLVED IN ONGOING AND
FAIRLY INTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS
WITH COMMUNITY THAT HAS
RESULTED SOMETIMES IN DECISIONS
FROM COMMUNITY COMING IN A
LITTLE BIT LATER THAN CENTRAL
STAFF GEEKS WOULD LIKE IN THE
SCHEDULE.
AND WE DO OUR BEST TO PUT
THINGS TOGETHER.
SOMETIMES WE MAKE ERRORS AND
I'M GLAD THAT TODAY IS A DAY
WHERE WE ARE JUST PREVIEWING
THESE DRAFTS FOR YOUR
CONSUMPTION.
I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE AS WE
MOVE INTO AMENDMENT 29, THIS IS
AN ERROR.
IT SHOULD NOT BE HERE.
THIS IS THE HOMELAND SECURITY
REDUCTION.
AND MOVE PAST THIS.
AND AMENDMENT 30 IS THE SAME.
IT IS A DUPLICATION.
>> MAKING OUR LIVES EASIER
RIGHT NOW.
>> TRYING TO GO.
GLAD I COULD HELP.
SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT
AMENDMENT WHICH IS NOT A
DUPLICATE WHICH IS AMENDMENT
31.
AND AMENDMENT 31 IS A REDUCTION
TO THE OFFICERS IN THE
NAVIGATION TEAM.
THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT USES
THE SAME APPROACH THAT HAS BEEN
USED IN THE SPECIFIED
REDUCTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
PRIOR IN THE CONVERSATION.
AND IT LEVIES A PROVISO OF
$216,000 AND ASKS THE CHIEF AND
DIRECTOR OF LABOR RELATIONS TO
ISSUE A NOTICE FOR 14 LAYOFFS.
THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN THE
NAVIGATION TEAM.
14 OFFICERS, I BELIEVE THERE'S
1 VACANCY THERE.
AND THESE ASSIST IS IT CITYWIDE
NAVIGATION TEAM WITH THE WORK
IT DOES TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO
HOMELESS PEOPLE.
THE ONE THING TO NOTE HERE,
LABOR RELATIONS HAS INDICATED
THAT THE REMOVAL OF THE
OFFICERS MAY CREATE LABOR
ISSUES AMONG THE REPRESENTED
PERSONNEL THAT ARE IN OTHER
DEPARTMENTS THAT WORK AROUND
THE NAVIGATION TEAM SUCH AS THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT IS ALL I HAD TO SAY ON
THIS 1.
>> I KNOW THIS IS 1 WE TALKED
ABOUT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND
YEARS.
AND COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, DID
YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS?
>> SURE.
SO THIS AS GREG SAID, THIS
PROVIDES $216,000 FROM PATROL
OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE ALL HEARD DIRECTLY FROM
HOUSED AND UNHOUSED COMMUNITY
MEMBERS, SERVICE PROVIDERS,
PUBLIC OFFICIALS THAT MOVING
OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS FROM
PLACE TO PLACE ESPECIALLY
DURING A PANDEMIC IS NOT A
SOLUTION TO THE HOMELESSNESS
CRISIS.
úIT DOESN'T FOSTER TRUST BETWEE
THE CITY AND THE HOMELESS
COMMUNITIES.
AND IT'S JUST CRUEL AND
INHUMANE.
WE KNOW THAT SLEEPING OUTSIDE
IS NOT A CRIME.
BEING POOR AND HOMELESS IS ALSO
NOT A CRIME.
AND THE TRUTH IS THAT THE SIGHT
OF ARMED OFFICERS DOESN'T
INSTILL TRUST.
IT MAKES PEOPLE VERY AFRAID.
AS THEY WATCH THEIR HOMES AND
BELONGINGS BE DESTROYED WITH
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PRESENT.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO REMOVE THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM
HOMELESSNESS OUTREACH AND BEGIN
TO REBUILD TRUST WITH THE
HOMELESS COMMUNITY.
WE'RE INVESTING IN
ORGANIZATIONS THAT PRIORITIZE
CRISIS INTERVENTION AND MENTAL
HEALTH AND OVERALL HEALTH AND
WELL BEING.
AND SHELTER REFERRAL.
AND NOT MOVING PEOPLE FROM 1
COMMUNITY TO THE NEXT.
SO THIS IS REALLY, THE
CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING
ALL YEAR AND OUR BELIEF THAT
HOMELESSNESS OUTREACH AND
ASSISTANCE HAS TO BE DIVORCED
FROM THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
>> AMENDMENT 31 SPONSORED BY
HERBOLD, STRAUSS, MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN COVERED,
I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING
EVERYTHING.
THIS IS THE AMENDMENT THAT
DIVORCES SPD FROM THE
NAVIGATION TEAM.
NOTHING FURTHER IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> SO WE DO HAVE ANOTHER
AMENDMENT COMING UP LATER.
THIS IS THE AMENDMENT THAT
REMOVES THE FORCE FROM THE
NAVIGATION TEAM.
>> THANK YOU, I'D LIKE TO ADD
MY NAME.
>> I SEE COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
AND COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> I DON'T NEED TO ADD MY NAME.
I'M ALREADY A SPONSOR.
IN ADDITION TO THE REQUESTS
FROM THE ADVOCACY COMMUNITY,
HOMELESS PEOPLE THEMSELVES, I
ALSO WANT TO LIFT UP THE FACT
THAT THE CITY AUDITOR MORE THAN
2 YEARS AGO REQUESTED THAT HSD
DO A STAFFING ASSESSMENT OF THE
NAVIGATION TEAM WITH A SPECIFIC
LENS ON THIS ISSUE OF WHETHER
OR NOT HAVING POLICE OFFICERS
ON A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
INTENDED TO DO OUTREACH AND
DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS TO
ENCOURAGE THEM TO ACCEPT OTHER
OPTIONS WHEN THE OPTIONS ARE
AVAILABLE.
WHETHER OR NOT HAVING POLICE
OFFICERS ON THOSE TEAMS MAKES
IT MORE LIKELY THAT WE'LL BE
SUCCESSFUL IN REALIZING THE
OUTCOMES OR LESS LIKELY.
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR 2
YEARS HAS REFUSED TO DO THE
STAFFING ASSESSMENT.
AND I DO THINKS THE TIME FOR
THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE THE
DECISION THAT HAVING POLICE
OFFICERS MAKES IT, ON THE TEAM
MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO
DEVELOP IS IT RELATIONSHIPS
NECESSARY FOR FOLKS TO GAIN
TRUST THAT THE OPTIONS THAT ARE
BEING OFFERED WHEN THOSE
OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ARE
OPTIONS THAT WILL MEET THEIR
NEEDS.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES FOR THE
COMPANION PIECE.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
WITH KNOWING THAT WITHOUT
POLICE OFFICERS ON THE
NAVIGATION TEAM.
KNOWING THAT WE HEARD THAT THE
OTHER NONPOLICE OFFICERS THAT
ARE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD
STILL REMAIN ON THE TEAM ARE
UNWILLING TO CONTINUE TO DO
THAT WORK.
SO THANK YOU.
>> IT IS ONLY FOR THE POLICE
ASPECT.
BUT DOES NOT DEAL WITH THE
MANAGERS WHO CHOOSE TO DO.
IT IS A SMALL STEP TOWARDS
MOVING AWAY.
SO I WILL BE VOTING IT.
>> THE COALITION ON
HOMELESSNESS HAS PUBLICLY SAID
IN LINE WITH THE AMENDMENT.
THAT THEIR CALLING TO DEFUND
THE NAVIGATION TEAM IN KEEPING
WITH THE BROADER CALL TO DIVEST
FROM HARMFUL PRACTICES AND
INVESTMENT IN SOLUTIONS THAT
ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING
INEQUITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> I'M JUST SIGNALING MY
INTEREST IN BEING A COSPONSOR.
>> WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THOSE DOING
OUTREACH TO THE UNSHELTERED AND
UNHOUSED POPULATIONS HAVING
MORE OF A SUCCESS RATE.
AND I WANT TO CALL OUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY OF THOSE
WHO ARE PART OF THE EFFORT
CURRENTLY WHETHER OR NOT THEY
DO THIS WORK WITH OUTREACH OR
WITH OTHER TYPES OF OUTREACH IN
THE COMMUNITY.
PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE
HEARD IS THAT POTENTIALLY,
PEOPLE WOULD BE SAFER IF WE
WEREN'T PUTTING THEM IN
POSITIONS WHERE THEY WERE BEING
TOLD TO REMOVE PEOPLE'S
BELONGINGS.
WE CAN HELP PROTECT THEIR
HEALTH AND SAFETY AS MEMBERS OF
THE CITY WHEN WE'RE NOT PAIRING
THEM WITH OFFICERS AND GOING IN
AND REMOVING PEOPLE'S
BELONGINGS.
AS WE LOOK AT IMPLEMENTING
CHANGES, WE NEED TO ALSO THINK
ABOUT HOW WE'RE PROTECTING CITY
EMPLOYEES AND ASKING THEM,
WHERE THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO
DO SOMETHING THAT'S POTENTIALLY
DANGEROUS.
LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW WE ENGAGE
WITH COMMUNITIES AND IN A
SITUATION WHERE ARMED
PERSONNEL.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP AND
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO I HAVE COUNCILMEMBERS
STRAUSS, COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT,
AND LEWIS.
LET'S MOVE ON.
>> I WANT TO SAY AS I CLOSE OUT
HERE THAT THE NAVIGATION TEAM
REDUCTION IS ONE OF THE
REDUCTIONS THAT WILL HAVE A
LONGER TERM, BIGGER IMPACT.
THIS 1 COULD HAVE AN IMPACT OF
UP TO $1.4 MILLION NEXT YEAR.
AND WITH THAT I WOULD TURN IT
OVER TO DAN EIDER WHO WILL TALK
WITH YOU ABOUT THE NEXT 3
AMENDMENTS.
>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND
ANNUALIZING.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>> AMENDMENTS 32-39 ARE ALL
COSPONSORED BY COUNCIL
PRESIDENT GONZALEZ, HERBOLD,
MORALES, AND MOSQUEDA.
I HOPE THAT THE AMENDMENTS
ACTUALLY REFLECT THAT.
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE
INTENT OF THE 4 SPONSORS.
AND 1 ITERATION OF A COUPLE OF
THESE AMENDMENTS DID NOT
CORRECTLY CAPTURE ALL OF THE
NAMES.
I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON
YOUR SCREEN WILL HAVE CORRECTED
THAT ERROR.
>> THANK YOU, DAN.
>> THE PACKAGE OF 8 AMENDMENTS
ARE AS GREG MENTIONED IN SOME
OF HIS EARLY REMARKS, ARE
INTENDED TO BE MOVED, ACTED
UPON TOGETHER.
THE FIRST 3 AND I PROMISE WILL
TAKE THESE 1 AT A TIME.
THE FIRST 3 NUMBERS 32, 33, AND
34 ON YOUR AGENDA HAVE, WOULD
AUTHORIZE A TOTAL OF $17
MILLION IN NEW SPENDING
COLLECTIVELY.
THE BALANCE OF THE AMENDMENTS
BEGINNING WITH 35 AND THROUGH
39 WOULD PROVIDE THE MECHANISM
FOR SPLITTING THOSE COMMITMENTS
AND OUTLAYS.
I THINK UNLESS THERE ARE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PACKAGE AS
A FRAMING DEVICE, I WILL TEE UP
AMENDMENT NUMBER 32 FOR
DISCUSSION.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU, CHAIR?
>> GO AHEAD, I DON'T SEE ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> SO AMENDMENT 32 WOULD ADD $3
MILLION OF GENERAL FUNDS
REVENUES FOR THE LEGISLATIVE
DEPARTMENT TO CONTRACT WITH 1
OR MORE COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS TO PERFORM
RESEARCH INFORMING A CITY'S
FUTURE STEPS REGARDING CHANGES
TO PROVIDING PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> OKAY.
THAT WAS SHORT AND SWEET.
THANK YOU, DAN.
I WILL ADD TO THAT.
AS ONE OF THE COSPONSORS, I
THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
THINGS WENT TO HIGHLIGHT IS
THAT THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT
REDUCTIONS IN A BUDGET.
THIS IS ABOUT POLICY CHOICES.
POLICY CHOICES TO RESPOND TO
THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
OUTLINED IN SEATTLE AND ACROSS
THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.
QUESTIONING THE SIZE AND
WANTING TO RIGHT SIZE THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO
THAT WE AND CITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT
NOW.
THAT'S PART OF THE EQUATION
THE OTHER PART IS GETTING
DOLLARS BACK OUT TO THE
COMMUNITIES.
THIS IS CRITICAL THAT WE NOT
THINK ABOUT RE-DUNKS BUT
UPSTREAM INVESTMENTS,
INVESTMENTS DIRECTLY INTO
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED
BYPASS PUBLIC POLICY.
WE CAN'T DO THIS OVERNIGHT.
WE CAN'T RIGHT HISTORIC WRONGS
IN THE MIDDLE OF A YEAR.
THIS WILL TAKE YEARS OF ACTION.
AND OUR COMMITMENT TODAY IS
OUTLINED IN SOME OF THE
PROVISOS THAT WE SEE FOR
DISCUSSION.
NOTEFULLY, KING COUNTY EQUITY
NOW AND DECRIMINALIZE SEATTLE
COMMENT THAT HAD ONE OF THE TOP
PRIORITIES WAS MAKING SURE
THERE WAS A SUMMER ENGAGEMENT,
COMMUNITY LED, BLACK LED, A
LARGE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS
COMING TOGETHER TO RE-ENVISION
WHAT COMMUNITY SAFETY IS.
WANTING TO INVESTMENT IN THE
TOP PRIORITY OF $3 MILLION FOR
THE COMMUNITY LED RESEARCH
PROJECT THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED
FROM THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT
DIRECTLY TO COMMUNITY WITH A
REALLY BIG PRIOR TO THAT WE
CONTINUE TO HEAR ABOUT FROM
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND
COMMUNITY LEADERS IN OUR CITY.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS
INVESTMENT NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT
HELPS TO MEET WHAT WAS
REQUESTED DIRECTLY FROM
COMMUNITIES, BUT AS WE RE-
ENVISION POLICING AND
FUNDAMENTALLY CENTER OUR FUTURE
POLICIES ON RACIAL JUSTICE
ISSUES AND FOLLOW THE LEAD OF A
BROAD COALITION OF THOSE
DIRECTLY IMPACTED.
PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FROM
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
WE ARE TAKING THE LEAD POLICIES
TO BE CHANGED AND SHAPED AND
BASED ON THE SOLUTIONS THEY ARE
HELPING TO BRING TO THE TABLE
TO CREATE A, POLICY AND
STRATEGIES THAT WILL LAST
BEYOND A 1 OR 2 BUDGET CYCLES.
THAT IS WHAT THIS PROCESS IS
INTENDED TO DO.
TO BRING US INFORMATION THIS
FALL THAT WE CAN ACT UPON.
THE COMMUNITY LED RESEARCH
PROCESS WILL INFORM THE VISION
FOR WHAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD
CONSIDER THIS FALL.
AND NOT ONLY THIS COUNCIL BUT
THE RE-ENVISIONED WORLD OF
PUBLIC SAFETY IF WE'RE ABLE TO
MAKE THE TYPE OF INVESTMENTS
THAT THE COMMUNITY LED RESEARCH
PROJECTS WILL COME BACK TO US
WITH.
PULL IN ADDITIONAL CUTS FROM
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
AND THIS WILL HELP US PROVIDE
THE FULL PACKAGE AND BE ABLE TO
RESPOND AS WE ADDRESS THE ROOT
CAUSES.
A PORTION OF THIS WILL BE
FOCUSED ON DEFINING COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND OFFERING
RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUPPORT TO
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP
SCALE UP AND BUILD CAPACITY AS
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
AS WE MAKE REDUCTIONS TO THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE
LANGUAGE WE'VE INCLUDED HERE.
DIRECTLY MAKING SURE THAT
COMMUNITY LED RESEARCH IS GOING
TO LEAD TO MORE TRANSITIONS AND
MORE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE
2021 BUDGET.
THIS IS OUR PAR IT IS PA
PARTICIPATORY PROCESS.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> I'D LIKE TO SIGN ON AS A
COSPONSOR AND ALSO THAT WILL MY
INTEREST IN WHEN THEY DRAFT THE
CONTRACTS AND CAST A WIDE NET
WE'VE HEARD FROM DECRIMINALIZE
SEATTLE AND WE'LL HEAR A LOT
MORE AS WELL.
AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION,
URBAN LEAGUE, OTHERS, EVEN THE
EVERYDAY PROTESTERS, JUST
CASTING A WIDE NET.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, YOU
HAVE DONE SOME THINKING ABOUT
DELIVERABLES.
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ON THE CONCEPT OF THE
DELIVERABLES AND THE IMPACT
THIS COULD HAVE FOR THE CITY?
>> BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
>> I WILL JUST SAY QUICKLY AS
CHAIR MOSQUEDA MENTIONED THE
IDEA IS TO CONTRACT WITH
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY
DOING THIS WORK.
THE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS
COMMUNITY LED PROCESS INCLUDE
THE STAFFING AND TRAINING,
PRELIMINARY WORK PLAN
DEVELOPMENT.
PART OF THE IDEA IS TO ENGAGE
YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS PROCESS.
WHEN WE SAY PARTICIPATORY, THAT
MEANS TEACHING COMMUNITY
MEMBERS HOW TO SURVEY IN THEIR
OWN NEIGHBORHOODS, RUN FOCUS
GROUPS, TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS
ABOUT WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS WANT
TO SEE.
AND THAT REQUIRES SOME
TRAINING, SOME DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL PROCESS
ITSELF, HAVING THE MEETINGS,
HAVING THE ORGANIZATIONAL
GATHERINGS, AND DOING THE DATA
COLLECTION ANALYSIS AND
PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEY HAVE
LEARNED THROUGH THAT.
SNAPSHOT OF THE KIND OF WORK WE
LOOK TO INVEST IN.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THOSE
KEY DELIVERABLES.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS
AMENDMENT ADDS $3 MILLION TO
SUPPORT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
TO DESIGN ALTERNATIVES TO
REPRESSIVE POLICING WHICH I
WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT AND I
SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND MY
OFFICE HAS SUBMITTED THIS SAME
AMENDMENT BUT THIS DOES NOT
INFORM ANY FUNDING SOURCE.
AND THE VERSION OF THE
AMENDMENT, THIS AMENDMENT
PROPOSE BY MY OFFICE BY
DEFUNDING THE POLICE BY THOSE
$3 MILLION WHICH IS A SMALL
FRACTION OF BY AT LEAST $15
MILLION.
I WILL SUPPORT REGARDLESS BUT
AS ITS SPONSORS LOOK FOR A WAY
TO FUND IT.
I HOPE THEY WILL DEFUND SPD.
ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT WE
WANT LESS REPRESSIVE POLICING
IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHICH IS WHY
THE MOVEMENT IS DEMANDING TO
DEFUND THE POLICE.
IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF FINDING
FUNDING FOR THAT WOULD BE A
NECESSARY THING TO AVOID BUDGET
CUTS AND OTHER ISSUES, BUT I
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE
MAIN THING THAT ABOUT THESE IS
ACTUALLY TO DEFUND.
I HOPE THAT SPONSORS OF THIS
AMENDMENT WILL SUPPORT MY
AMENDMENT WHICH IS THE EXACT
SAME THING EXCEPT THAT IT'S
PAID FOR BY DEFUNDING THE
POLICE.
>> COMMENTS ON THAT?
>> OKAY.
I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT IF I
CAN AND COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, I
APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S, THERE
ARE THE IMMEDIATE DOLLARS TO GO
OUT.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FUNDING THAT
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
RIGHT NOW.
THAT ENSURES THAT THE DOLLARS
GET OUT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW.
HAVING THE LEGAL CONCERNS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AND
OTHERS.
>> YES, THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
DOING THE DECREASE IN THE
DOLLAR AMOUNT AND INCREASE IN
COMMUNITY.
THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL PIECE
THAT WE DID TRY TO FIND
ADDITIONAL WAYS TO GET THE
DOLLARS OUT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING THE
REDUCTIONS AND WANTING TO
ENSURE THAT THE $3 MILLION GET
OUT THE DOOR.
WE HAD TO QUICKLY IDENTIFY
WHERE THERE WAS ANY ADDITIONAL
FUNDING AND WITH CREATEIVE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE LONGER
TERM GOALS.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
>> DAN MAY HAVE SAID THIS
EARLIER.
WHAT IS THE ORIGINAL SOURCE OF
THE $3 MILLION?
>> SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO
TRIBE IS THAT THERE'S A PACKAGE
OF SPENDING IN THAT SPENDING
PACKAGE.
THIS IS ITEM 32, 32, 33 AND 34
ARE PURE SPENDING AMENDMENTS.
THERE'S NO SPECIFIC FUNDING
SOURCE TIED TO IT.
BUT THE COSPONSORS INTEND TO
PACKAGE THIS WITH AMENDMENTS
35, 36, 37, 38, AND 39.
EACH OF THOSE PROVIDES FROM A
VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS
REVENUE WHICH BACKS THE $17
MILLION OF SPENDING.
THERE ISN'T A 1 TO 1 ALIGNMENT
BETWEEN THE REVENUE SOURCE AND
A SPECIFIC SPENDING TYPE.
BUT IF YOU TAKE THE WHOLE $17
MILLION OF SPENDING AND THE
FIRST 3 AMENDMENTS, IT IS
BALANCED AGAINST $17 MILLION OF
REVENUE IN THE SECOND 5
AMENDMENTS.
>> THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE
ADDED AS A COSPONSOR TO THIS
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
OKAY, I SEE COUNCILMEMBERS
PEDERSEN AND LEWIS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> AND YOU CAN ADD ME AS A
COSPONSOR.
BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE POINT
THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE FUNDING
AND WE NEEDED TO GET THIS OUT
THE DOOR.
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.
IN MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS NO
AMBIGUITY.
ETCH IF 1 BELIEVES THAT, ALL
THE WHAT IFS THAT HAVE BEEN
BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE BARGAINING
BODY, THE SPD CUTS, THE MOMENT
THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS PASSED
THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS
COMMUNITY WORK.
CENTRAL STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT.
THEY MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO I'M NOT EXACTLY CLEAR WHY
THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT BEING
DONE.
LATER IN THE AGENDA DIRECTLY
SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
FUNDED BY DEFUNDING THIS.
>> CAN I.
>> PLEASE RESPOND TO THAT.
AND RESPOND BY ASKING CENTRAL
STAFF TO HELP HERE WITH
UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT THAT WHILE IT MIGHT BE
AS EASY AS PASSING AN AMENDMENT
SAYING WE WILL NOT PROVIDE THE
MONEY.
THERE IS STILL THE PROCESS OF
BARGAINING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
AND IF WE PUT THAT MONEY ASIDE
AND INVEST IT IN COMMUNITY NOW,
THERE'S THE RISK THAT IF WE
THAT THE BARGAINING PROCESS
WILL NOT GO AS PLANNED AND WE
MIGHT HAVE TO PAY THAT MONEY
BACK.
AND SO THE REALITY IS THAT WHAT
WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS
ENSURE THAT WE ARE GETTING
MONEY OUT THE DOOR NOW SO THAT
THESE RESEARCH PROCESSES CAN
START AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT
REALLY GETS CASH IN HAND
BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO HOPING TO
REALIZE FUTURE SAVINGS, BUT
THAT'S NOT MONEY THAT WE HAVE
IN HAND.
WE CAN'T WRITE A CHECK WITH
FUTURE SAVINGS.
WHAT WE CAN WRITE A CHECK WITH
IS FUNDING THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO
PROPOSE.
>> I'LL ASK YOU TO VERIFY IF
I'M READING ALL OF THIS RIGHT.
>> I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, I THINK
THERE'S A POLICY CALL AND A
DECISION TO BE MADE BY YOU ASK
YOUR COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE
CITY'S TOLERANCE FOR RISK.
[ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]
>> ANY OFFICER IN THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY
EMPLOYED AND RECEIVED LAYOFF
NOTICES.
THEY CAN ACHIEVE SALARY SAVINGS.
WHAT THEY WALKED YOU THROUGH
AND WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT.
MONEY THAT CAN BE MADE
AVAILABLE.
From all council members
perspective.
A small amount to work with for
other purposes given the
officers, eventually no longer
work for the city.
Will only not work for the city
for 2 months.
That's what we are assuming.
You are not bound by our
assumption pick
>> Exactly.
Can I ask you a question?
Can you confirm if a budget
amendment is passed,
transferring the money, the
money can go out to community
groups while negotiations
happen?
>> Yes.
That is legally possible gas.
>> Thank you for confirming.
That is what I'm talking about.
At the end of the day, money
can be allocated, dispersed to
immunity program.
I want to make sure if we are
clear and what other
councilmembers are saying.
I'm not giving an impression
Koppel suppression that somehow
money cannot be dispersed while
negotiations are going on.
I'm not making claim.
A technical clarification.
If the negotiations went badly
and had to be paid back.
What is being painted, an area
that somehow the money would be
taken away from community
programs.
The city would owe the money
and arrangements would have to
be made.
At the end of the day, it is
political.
How the bargaining goes.
It depends on how committed the
bargaining members go.
I don't agree overall for every
amendment painting the specter
well we have to see how the
bargaining goes.
The negotiations.
Wiki -- feel committed to
defunding ultimately we are the
highest body.
The Seattle Police Department
doesn't run the city Council.
City Council runs the city
Council.
>> Thank you Madam chair.
That was a good clarification.
I want to make one
clarification.
F we were to invest money.
Ultimately unsuccessful in
bargaining.
We would in turn be responsible
for paying back.
Ifit had been distributed and
spent we would have to find a
way to pay it back is that
correct?
>> That is a downside risk.
I can't say how things would
play out.
That is a scenario that
councilmembers who are
sponsoring are trying to avoid.
>> I'm not asking the
clarification until I can apply
that is likely to happen.
I'm trying to understand the
universe of risk.
It is a very real potential.
Of risk of the approach
advocated of councilmembers.
There is a risk reward balance
for different proposals is that
correct?
>> Seems fair.
>> Counsel woman morale is?
>> I never said we would have
to pay back funds we would be
responsible for paying them
back.
I don't think anyone would
assume we would get money back.
>> We should move on.
I will add.
The risk if the city has to pay
it back.
The services were trying to
invest in we break trust if
were not able to continue in
the future.
The intent, the shared goal to
make sure we can move forward
with community research and
identify funds that are solid
to get out the door that have
less risk associated with them.
I will say that.
>> Thank you very much.
>> It is slightly after 5 PM I
was trying to get us to five.
As Dan outlined there are
amendments up to 39 that are
packaged.
With your indulgence I would
ask that we get through
amendment 39 and then do the
remaining on Monday if that is
okay?
>> Thank you very much.
>> 33.
>> I will be brief and leave
descriptions to cosponsors.
33 Woodard 4 million of general
fund revenue for human services
to make investments in
initiatives such as Seattle
community safety initiative.
The immediate need for scaling
up gun violence intervention
and prevention.
I will turn it over to those
that wish to speak.
>> Thank you.
Amendment 33, please.
>> A little detail on the
safety initiative.
An alternative to judicial
policing that builds
neighborhood safety for black,
brown communities.
It is to restore, rebuild.
Connections, marginalized
systematically oppressed black
and black communities.
We believe the foundation of
community safety. It starts
with restoration, healing,
adequate economic resourcing of
the communities.
The goal is to set up community
safety Hobbs in targeted
communities West Seattle, South
Seattle Central District con
North Seattle in order to
facilitate cultural Tilley
relevant and holistic efforts.
This initiative, people of
color led partnership
passageways, urban family,
Southeast network, hob, boys
and girls club and YMCA.
>> Questions?
>> Funds programs that my
office supports.
My office submitted to central
staff amendments to fund
initiatives like the community
safety initiative that does
restorative justice.
Community work to prevent
violence outside the criminal
justice system.
This amendment does not specify
the funding source.
It is referencing the debate
that just happened in terms of
what risk city Council is
willing to take and what
competence councilmembers are
willing to project in holding
the police department
accountable.
The community demanding initial
steps that are being demanded I
feel like city Council doesn't
have the confidence to come
through I don't know the more
accountability [ indiscernible
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next steps.
I will cosponsor the amendment
because I support programs to
be funded with the amendment.
If the amendment doesn't
specify a funding source and I
have the sponsors will support
from my office to fund this
kind of work by defunding the
police.
They have to go hand in hand.
I agree as a counsel in 6 1/2
years I held office.
I have not broken trust with
the community.
The biggest way they break
trust is by not defunding.
Even the order of today's
amendments, agenda has been
arranged in such a way.
I don't care one way or another
I wanted to point out
subsequently.
Frontloaded in the agenda are
not defined amendments.
They are coming from my office.
Later in the agenda and I hope
the Council will support the
amendments Monday and not break
trust with the community and
actually defund the police.
>> Additional comments?
>> I will be brief.
I am happy to be a cosponsor.
Being familiar with
organizations and knowing it's
an initiative that has long
been in the making and can be a
game changer addition to public
safety.
I'm excited and glad we are
making a significant investment
and really can't wait for this
to be stood up funded and out
in the field.
Thank you.
>> I have cosponsors any
additional?
>> Would it be accurate of 32,
33, 34 that those investments
identified 35, 36, 37, 39?
>> Correct
>> Additional?
Seeing on.
34.
>> I told you about Sue of the
ideas for investments three,
four, idea.
Third of a package of three.
Amendment 34 10 million to
human services.
The intent, the human services
Department would make an
investment in 2020 in the
nonprofit organization and
would then award grant dollars
to other nonprofits.
The purpose of the funding
investment is threefold to grow
capacity in organizations that
received the grants and provide
long-term support to
criminalize interrupt and
prevent violence and harm.
I will turn it over.
>> Councilmember Morales.
>> This is an important step
toward investing and having us
put money where our mouth is.
As we have been talking.
We have been meeting with the
community several hours a week
for several weeks now.
We know there are roadblocks to
meeting all requests coming
from the community.
The community knows that also.
They understand that this is a
down payment on the work we
have to do and work we are
committed to continuing in
September.
With this package we have a
plan for getting funding out
the door this year by
contracting with a local
foundation to help deliver
funding to deliver process but
work we want organizations to
do.
We have organizations involved
in crisis response, violence
interruption, restorative and
justice approaches.
It allows us.
After public dialogue that has
come out of the executive's
office since the uprising.
A constant phrase about
investing.
We have the chance to
demonstrate the commitment in
moving forward.
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every day March.
Having the activists out and
holding us accountable is
important to continuing to
pressure the city to respond.
We know those closest to
solutions that impact them have
had the burden of solving.
A shoestring budget without
access to resources they need.
Part of the intent is to shift
away from austerity model to
provide communities with
resilience.
Continue to operate so they
aren't fighting over crumbs.
That's how we divide community
and it does not serve
communities of color well.
If we reimagine public safety
we have to create a pathway for
communities and organizations
to define what a healthy
investment looks like.
A pathway that doesn't expand
the scope of police function in
communities which is part of
why we are aiming to move
community policing functions
ou.
It is time for us to fix this.
To take money from a police
department that has become
bloated and invest money into
communities to get to the root
of inequities.
That we have embedded in a
structural way into
institutions for centuries.
This is a commitment to start
moving away and invest to make
neighborhoods to make the
neighbors they live in and
increase safety for everybody.
>> Well said councilmember
Morales.
Additional?
>> Anyone that wants to add is
a cosponsor, councilmember
Pedersen, councilmember
Strauss thank you.
Did I misinterpret your hand?
Did you want to ask a question?
>> Both cosponsor and question.
Technical.
I printed out these amendments.
It says sponsor on the screen
it says 4. It's the same
amendment.
10 million okay.
>> Dan mentioned there were 2
unfortunately didn't have the
four names I believe 34, 33.
Same content.
>> We don't name organizations
like the previous amendment to
the extent organizations need
additional funding or technical
assistance to track what they
are doing and report back and
have help with positive
outcomes we all want.
When organizations are
budgeting as they often are
they maybe don't have a
capacity to budget for a data
analyst to track and report
back and leverage more when
they want to scale up.
A flag, technical assistance
for organizations to track
results and improve so they can
scale up at a rapid rate.
>> The first we discussed in
the spending package 32
appropriation of 3 million
appropriation of 3,000,002
legislative department.
A hand in the contract.
It will be done through
executive branch.
>> Okay
>> Did I see councilmember
Lewis?
>> I wanted to be added as a
cosponsor?
>> Happy to do that.
Thank you.
>> Councilmember Lewis,
councilmember Strauss,
Pedersen, Sawant.
Thank you councilmember Morales
for your summary.
I know in relation to the
question around possible
organizations there are great
examples of criteria we can
look and drafting that the
community put together and you
helped summarize.
Thank you.
Can we get through the next 4?
Where is the funding coming
from.
Who would draw the line?
Let's have a hard stop at Let's
have a hard stop at 5:30 PM.
It will allow us to start with
40 which councilmember Morales
alluded to we would pick up on
Monday.
Let's try to do it.
Dan, amendment 35.
>> The beginning of the revenue
package.
This would cut $36,000 from an
existing police department
consulting contract.
Providing implicit bias
training.
$72,000 of the contract
currently waiting.
It would cut the amount by
half.
Eliminate 36,000 of the $72,000
contract.
It would propose on the
remaining.
Until such time the police
department submits a report
describing the importance of
the training.
>> Thank you very much.
President Gonzalez did I see
your hand up.
>> Quickly.
Dan, I may have missed in the
brief presentation.
This is a small cut to the
particular proposal.
It does not zero out the
training for implicit bias fund
is not correct?
>> Accurate.
Of the $72,000 remaining, the
budget action would cut 36,000.
Leave the other intact in place
a proviso it remains until a
report is submitted.
>> Obviously we are supportive
of implicit bias training.
Over the last several years
there have been concerns about
the sufficiency of implicit
bias training.
It would be appropriate for us
in light of where we are have
the department get back and
take a second look at the
implicit bias training in order
to provide counsel with a clear
sense of what the training is
and what level should be funded
in the future.
I don't want people to look at
the amendment and signaled they
are not supportive of implicit
bias training.
I want to clearly state it is
not the case.
We want to get a better sense
of what the training is.
Efficacy and ways we can
improve and implicit bias
training program that has
greater efficacy then what
might currently exist.
>> Additional comments?
>> Anyone that wants to add as
a cosponsor, Strauss, Lewis,
Sawant.
Thank you.
Here we go.
Amendment 36
>> Second Amendment in the
final package.
36 woodcut from travel,
training which has a total
remaining budget of $201,000.
$50,000 would be, is in fact
central staff assumption of how
much the $201,000 remaining
budget is associated with
travel.
The city budget office and SPD.
Now the amendment has been made
public.
They provide feedback with the
assumption and they can adjust
accordingly.
It would impose a proviso on
the remaining $151,000 on
travel and training until they
submit a report about a need
for remaining training.
>> Thank you Dan.
I will speak quick to add
contacts.
We are in the middle of a
pandemic.
That's not a lot of travel.
It makes sense to identify any
funding source that will be
potentially underutilized as
well as making statements about
where we want to see things.
Ongoing travel restriction, put
a proviso on travel, training
budget especially as we
consider the global context.
There will be a need for any
training can't travel if it is
related to complete
requirements under the consent
decree.
We appreciate central staff is
looking into the issue further
and identify any remaining
additional dollars to pull from
the budget for travel.
Thank you.
>> Questions?
Seeing none.
Additional councilmembers who
would lik to add their name to
amendment 36.
Thank you councilmember Sawant,
Strauss, councilmember Lois.
>> 37
>> Item 37 woodcut $800,000 of
remaining 2020 budget for
recruitment and training.
The implication would be
eliminate 2.75 full-time
equivalent civilian physicians.
It would cut remaining other
funds for recruitment not
needed in 2020 given
recruitment activities are not
happening due to hiring freeze.
There is a $200,000 subset of
the $800,000 that was
anticipated to be used for
hiring bonuses.
Because there is a hiring
freeze bonuses don't need to be
paid when we first hire staff.
Because the second half some.
After they are hired is not
expected to be paid until 2021.
The action would eliminate that
funding and require the mayor
to come up with some other
source.
>> Thank you Dan.
>> Comments?
>> Thank you chair, thank you
Dan I think you captured the
points.
I wanted to punctuate your
comments by making sure we
recognize the mayor, chief have
committed to elimination of
funds for recruitment and
retention.
This is capturing those funds
so we can utilize in accordance
with counsel priority.
I want to be really clear that
the executive has ended
recruitment and retention
expenditures and allow the
hiring bonus program that the
Council previously approved to
lapse in June to lapse in June
2020.
Directly from the letter that
she sent to me and page 3. I
want to emphasize for those who
might have concerns.
A simple memorialization and
holding an executive to a prior
publicly stated commitment that
the programs will be ended.
I appreciate the opportunity,
context for colleagues that may
consider whether or not to
cosponsor.
>> Thank you.
Additional questions?
Seeing none.
Anyone who wants to add their
name?
>> Strauss, Sawant.
Lewis .
>> 38
>> 38 would authorize use of
the remaining funds in the
revenue stabilization account
12.8 million.
The revenue stabilization
account may be filled,
replenished in 2021 through
future cuts to the budget if
and how it happens in the 2021
budget decision-making process.
If necessary additional use of
jumpstart payroll expected to
flow in the 2021 budget.
Still working on the format for
how it will happen.
Separate legislation.
>> Not a decision that was come
to lightly in identifying
additional dollars.
Appreciate you emphasizing to
backfill with future cuts from
the budget and the
deliberations continuing in six
weeks.
Councilmember Morales.
>> Thank you.
Not a lot more to add to what
Dan said.
For the purpose of investments,
to a development and growth.
Public safety that don't
involve the police.
This is for community and would
allow to scale up operations
they are doing.
Many are providing an important
public benefit.
In our neighborhoods.
úThis would allow them to scale
up and deliver public benefit
as we reduce the size.
The intent is to allow us to
contract community-based
organizations.
As we said this is where we
have come after hours of
conversation with community
organizations.
The real point of the cuts and
for the purpose of making
investments, communities of
color need investments.
They don't need incarceration.
They don't need over policing.
By leveraging the fund we are
making a bold statement that we
want to rely on the bottle in
the city and make sure we are
working with the community not
doing things to the community.
We are eager to make sure we
have support and ability to use
the funds in a way that serves
community safety best.
>> Councilmember.
>> I want to speak as somebody
that expressed anxiety of
accessing funds in the past.
The exercise central staff and
legislative aides have gone
through in annualizing the
value of our SPD cuts has been
helpful for me to gain
confidence that we will have
funds to replenish emergency
funds that were borrowed.
Thank you.
>> Councilmember Lewis.
>> I know the sponsors have
gone through a lot of work
trying to find the money for
the critical programmatic
increases.
I cannot say I have a better
suggestion, recommendation.
I appreciate the comments just
now about essential steps
analysis of savings.
One of the encouraging things.
I. All of that said frankly I
am concerned based on how much
we have spent the reserves down
previously with the relief
package.
It is something I want to think
about.
Over the weekend personally.
I probably won't be affixing as
a cosponsor today.
I realize that this is the only
way to activate the essential
and critical investments this
fall instead of the future.
It is a struggle to look at the
financial situation, budget
situation we will have next
year.
The conversations we will have
to deal with at that time.
And a similar summer bouncing
session.
I appreciate this being brought
here today and I know the
sponsors put a colossal amount
of work into scouring for
alternatives.
I can guarantee I will almost
certainly not be able to find a
better idea over the weekend.
But I am expressing it is a
difficult choice and nobody
envies the difficulty of this
but at this point given the
situation I'm not ready to
ethics as a cosponsor but
certainly continue to engage on
this.
>> Thank you for those words
councilmember Lewis.
I share your concerns and as
councilmember Herbold and
others commented on and
councilmember Morales led with.
This is not an easy decision.
One thing that helped me was
the annualized costs for the
SPD reductions next year and
knowing the community wants the
reductions to go to community
knowing that is how we get from
2020 up to 2020 want to
replenish that maybe feel safe
as well.
2 I would like to continue to
work.
On the cosponsor and I work
with other cosponsors.
I am easy about the reference
to jumpstart in this one we
will start talking about
jumpstart in a second.
There is significant, assurance
there will be funding to come
from reductions in SPD and
would like to think we could
continue to work on the
language to identify the
source.
The last thing, one of the
things that was most compelling
came from Isaac in a
conversation and Isaac has
presented in the past.
We talked about the crisis
affecting black community
members throughout the city,
nation it is a public health
crisis.
We identified funding for the
emergency as COVID-19 as a
public health crisis seeing a
way in which communities had
been dis-invested in and the
high rates of death because of
the existing systems in the
communities against the members
help me realize that I
personally wanted, reserves to
address the other public health
crisis.
Not a decision easy and I
understand the need to think
about this and do appreciate
essential steps identification
of ways in which we can get
dollars out the door.
And truly commit to getting the
17 million requested.
>> Councilmember Sawant .
>> Thank you.
Amendment 38, 39 astonishing
amendments I'm seeing.
The community has been
demanding the city take money
from the Seattle Police
Department because it is not a
cut it is defunding because
they are doing harm in putting
the funds into socially
constructive programs that like
affordable housing, community-
based organizations.
Instead of doing that, the
Council would in this amendment
leave the SPD budget hole for
now and promises are being made
but for now it is being left
whole and instead take the
money from the already depleted
rainy day fund.
Then I'm hearing from
councilmembers that you are
confident that the overtime
would be sufficient.
Mathematically that might be
accurate.
Here is the logical
inconsistency.
Those funds will be available
only if they successfully
defined.
The reason many councilmembers
are not using as a source of
funds.
As was stated there is a way we
don't know how the bargaining
will go.
It has been said again as a
reason, excuse to not actually
defund.
Now councilmembers are saying
we are confident and I am
paraphrasing.
You're putting this forward
because you are confident you
would get the defunded funds
then why not use caught defund
the SPD directly rather than
going this route.
Your sa were not confident we
will get the funds.
Now you're saying we are
confident we will get the
funds.
I mentioned the funding for
community programs should not
be defunding SPD and not the
rainy day fund.
I will point out the rainy day
fund as many, needs to be paid
back.
The worst case scenario
expressed where he.
By using the rainy day fund
they guarantee the money needs
to be paid back.
I don't understand what is
being achieved here other than
the fact you don't want to
defund the SPD because it
requires a clash with the
police department, the status
quo.
The community has been
demanding the city take money
and put it in the community.
I will of course defunding
community programs as outlined
in 32, 33, 34.
It is to be said it is
disingenuous for councilmembers
to tell the community they are
defunding SPD to defund and
failing to do that this is not
defunding you are using rainy
day fund.
>> I will be brief.
I agree with what councilmember
Sawant shared.
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rainy day.
Draining 12.8 Draining 12.8
million from two reserve funds.
This is what happens when you
write a check you cannot cash.
When you make promises raise
expectations, take a pledge
without a plan.
I may disagree with
councilmember Sawant on a lot
but if you say we defund the
police 50% and now you're
saying oh by the way we will
take it from the rainy day fund
to the other funds command.
We will look at the way we will
pay, reduce SPD.
We have to worry about union,
labor laws.
Collective bargaining.
We look for a backfill.
We drain the rainy day fund.
I have to say.
Councilmember Sawant, much of
what I hear you saying in the
last 4 1/2 years, councilmember
Sawant has said day one.
The urgency started not with
the recession. Not the
pandemic.
Obviously they came up.
They started with the public
discussion and honest
discussion about race when we
had the killing of George
Lloyd.
That triggered. June, July when
people took a pledge to reduce
by 50% to defund police.
As councilmember Morales said.
A lecture about how some don't
understand people of color
what we have been through, the
uprising.
This has been around forever.
This is what councilmember
Sawant has been saying.
I can't today say I can be a
cosponsor.
I too am troubled as
councilmember Sawant stated.
I can have a principled
discussion, a disagreement
with councilmember Sawant on a
lot and we do . When you can't
be honest about what you're
doing and that hypocrisy and
I'm glad people are listening
and watching.
You are scrambling.
This is the problem.
This is what I have been
struggling with.
Trying to get on top of 39
amendments quickly.
To look at how we will boot to
reduce the police budget.
We will not get the 50%.
You should just say that.
I will leave it at that.
>> Councilmember Herbold
>> We have said that were
saying that now and we have
shared that with the community
stakeholders.
Decriminalize, represents 300
organizations.
I met with the every day march
yesterday to share how far we
have been able to go with the
package.
>> Thank you.
I think I will summarize by
saying without significant
charter amendments, labor
contract violations there is no
other way to commit to getting
dollars out the door.
It is not to say it won't come
from SPD and after negotiations
allow.
I appreciate the concern in
which people are raising the
effort we will continue the
conversation Monday, Wednesday,
next week.
With that I will note it is
important for us to recognize
we cannot make a cut that would
lay off.
Tomorrow starting August 1. The
way to respond to getting 10-17
million out the door.
Going down the route that
doesn't immediately lead to the
violations.
Any additional people that want
to add their name?
>> Last amendment.
We will continue the
conversation Monday.
39
>> This amendment would round
out a 17 million revenue
package.
It would generate 3.3 million
for the 17 million spending by
reducing administrative costs
that were authorized in the
COVID-19 bill.
It included the city's
administrative cost which
included a blanket with a 5%
total 86 spending.
If it passes the city would
have 1 million.
For administrative costs.
>> Amendment 39.
I will briefly speak to this.
We have been putting a generous
portion and for administrative
costs annually 5% given it is
almost August.
The dollars have yet to get out
the door.
The 5% we put forward we
believe could take a cut
approach recognizing in that
COVID-19 portion they are
enhancements or tweaks to
assistance and services we are
offering vulnerable populations
including providing assistance
and making sure immigrants and
refugees have cash assistance.
We hope with the 1 million
remaining there will be
sufficient funds to do the
remaining needed.
Executives and departments to
move quickly to get the dollars
out the door and recognize they
can build on structures in the
city system to allocate.
>> Anyone else that wants to
add their name?
Councilmember Strauss . I will
note it is almost 6. We went 15
minutes longer.
I want to thank you for all of
your time from central staff
and council colleagues.
You referenced amendments and
we look forward to that and
package those together.
We have amendments from
councilmember. Picking up for
consideration.
Discussion and the question
section.
We will continue Monday with a
robust discussion.
Anything else for the good of
the order?
>> We reach the end of the
agenda.
The next meeting is Monday,
August 3. Ideally 10 AM or
immediately after counsel
briefing.
There will be a short comment..
Sign-up starts at 8 AM.
We expect to continue and
finish discussions on the
amendments.
Thank you colleagues.
Apologies to councilmembers did
didn't get to speak to
specifics but there will be
time Monday prior to the full
meeting.
If there are no questions I
want to thank you for the
engagement and recognize it is
hard work we are doing.
If it were easy it would've
been done years ago.
This is an effort to shake up
status quo.
We will continue Monday.
Have a good weekend and get
some rest.
We will talk to you soon.
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