GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY AND
WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL MEETING
OF THE SUSTAINABILITY AND
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
THE DATE IS OUR NORMAL MEETING
BUT WE MOVED UP THE TIME TO 1
P.M TO GIVE AS MUCH OPPORTUNITY
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WITH A
LOT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO PUBLIC
COMMENT IN A MOMENT.
THERE ARE AT LEAST 35 FOLKS
SIGNED UP SO I'VE ASKED KELLY
TO SET THE TIMER FOR ONE MINUTE
30 SECONDS TO A LITTLE LESS
THAN WE NORMALLY DO AND HOPE OF
GETTING THE MOST PUBLIC
COMMENTS IN SO IF YOU'VE
PREPARED A TWO-MINUTE COMMENT
PREPARED TO SPEAK FASTER OR
TRUNCATED A FEW POINTS BUT GET
YOUR MAIN POINTS ACROSS TO US,
WE WANT TO HEAR THEM.
MY NAME IS MIKE O'BRIEN AND I'M
CHAIR OF THE SUSTAINABILITY OF
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
WE ARE BEING STAFFED BY KELLY
IN THE OFFICE I THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE, KELLY.
I WILL START WITH PUBLIC
COMMENT AND THEN WILL MOVE TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT, HOPEFULLY WHEN A
COLLEAGUE OR TWO OF MINE IS
HERE.
SO, I WILL CALL OFF NAMES AND
YOU CAN COME TO EITHER
MICROPHONE. RANDY BANNEKER IS
FIRST FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE
STAFFORD, ANDY WOBBLER AND
KEVIN CLARK.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. RANDY
BANNEKER HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
KING COUNTY REALTORS, WANTED TO
COME IN ON TWO ITEMS, THE OIL
HEATING TAX IN THE NATURAL GAS
PROHIBITION.
FIRST TOOK ON THE OIL HEATING
TAX, WE ASK THAT YOU LEAD OFF
ON THIS PROGRAM WITH CARROTS
RATHER THAN STICKS.
WE BELIEVE THERE ARE MANY
HOMEOWNERS ON FIXED INCOMES
WITH OIL HEAT WHOSE INCOMES
EXCEED THE $34,000 OR SOLDIERLY
INCOME LIMIT THAT WOULD QUALIFY
THEM FOR CONVERSION ASSISTANCE.
BUT THOSE FOLKS FALL SHORT OF
BEING ABLE TO FUND THE
CONVERSION OUT OF POCKET.
SO WE ASK THAT ALL OWNERS OF
OIL HEAT SYSTEMS HAVE ACCESS TO
A SUBSIDIZED CONVERSION PROGRAM
AS WELL AS TANK REMOVAL.
THIS WOULD MEET THE PUBLIC
INTEREST OF SPEEDING CONVERSION
AND WOULD AVOID THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OF LEAVING SEATTLE
HOMEOWNERS OUT IN THE COLD.
>> WITH REGARDS TO NATURAL GAS
PROHIBITION, IMMEDIATELY,
MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
CONSUMER CHOICE AND POSSIBLE
IMPACTS ON THE SEATTLE MARKET
WHEN CHOICE ON A MAJOR HOME
COMPONENT SUCH AS HEATING AND
COOKING IS ELIMINATED.
WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL HAS A
ROBUST STAKEHOLDER PROCESS TO
UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT AS WELL
AS THE FEASIBILITY AND POLICY
IMPLICATIONS OF 15 BILLION
ENERGY RELIANCE TO NEARLY 100%
ELECTRIC .
>> THANK YOU .
>> CATHERINE?
>> HELLO COUNCILMEMBER, MIKE.
MY NAME IS CATHERINE STANFORD
AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE
BUILDING OWNERS AND MANAGERS
ASSOCIATION OF SEATTLE, KING
COUNTY.
THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL TRADE
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING THE
OFFICE BUILDING AND COMMERCIAL
REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY. AND
SPEAKING TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE IN
YOUR AGENDA, ORDINANCE RELATING
TO PROHIBITING NATURAL GAS
PIPING SYSTEMS IN NEW
BUILDINGS.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT CHANGES TO
THE WAY OUR MEMBERS BUILDINGS
OPERATE, ELIMINATING NATURAL
GAS AS AN OPTION AND BUILDING
DESIGN AND OPERATION WHAT
IMPACT THE BUILDING ENERGY'S
PROFILE AND MAY FORCE
UNFAVORABLE DESIGN CHANGES. WE
ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF
STUDY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
LEGISLATION, IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS
AND DATA ARE NEEDED SO IMPACTS
ON CUSTOMERS AND UTILITIES CAN
BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD.
WE SUPPORT AN APPROACH THAT
SLOWS DOWN THIS PROCESS TO GIVE
THE CITY TIME TO CONVENE A
BROAD RANGE OF STAKEHOLDERS AND
TIME TO CONDUCT THOROUGH
FEASIBILITY, ENERGY, AND
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS. AS
ALWAYS, THEY STAND READY TO
WORK WITH THE CITY ON THE ISSUE
AND ARE PREPARED TO BRING
EXPERTISE TO THE TABLE, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THIS
IMPORTANT MANNER .
>> THANK YOU, CATHERINE .
>> .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON I'M ANDY
WOBBLER WITH PUGET SOUND
ENERGY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
WE SERVED NEARLY 850,000
SEATTLE HOMES AND BUSINESSES
WITH GAS AND WE ARE LOCAL WITH
MANY BASED AND LIVING IN
SEATTLE WORKING WITH
DEDICATION, SKILL AND KNOWLEDGE
AND I'M HONORED TO BE JOINED BY
A NUMBER OF THEM TODAY.
NATURAL GAS HELPS FAMILY STAY
WARM, COOK A HOT MEAL, DO THE
LAUNDRY AND TAKE A SHOWER AND
ALSO MEET A PAYROLL.
GAS DOES THIS BY BEING
DEPENDABLE AND AFFORDABLE.
THE AVERAGE FAMILY TODAY PAYS
LESS FOR GAS THAN THEY DID FIVE
YEARS AGO.
THAT COMES AT A TIME WHEN
ELECTRIC EELS IN SEATTLE HAVE
GONE UP BY 35%. GAS ALSO
CARRIES A BIG LOAD OF ENERGY IN
SEATTLE ON AN AVERAGE DAY IT'S
ONE THIRD OF THE ENERGY USED IN
THE CITY AND ON A COLD DAY IT'S
TWO THIRDS OF THE ENERGY USED
IN THE CITY, REPLACING NATURAL
GAS WOULD REQUIRE A WIND FARM
THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF SEATTLE
ITSELF.
THIS ORDINANCE BUT SEATTLE THE
RISK OF RISING MONTHLY BILLS
AND GOOD JOBS OF RISK OF GOING
ELSEWHERE.
WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN REDUCE
EMISSIONS AND WE HAVE AND WE
WANT TO DO THAT TOGETHER WITH
PSE TO KEEP ENERGY RELIABLE AND
AFFORDABLE IF WE DO, BUT NOT
WITHOUT A MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE
AND A THOUGHTFUL PLAN.
WE BELIEVE IT'S TIME TO STOP,
TAKE AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT THE
ISSUES AND WORK ON CONSTRUCTIVE
SOLUTIONS INCLUDING A
FEASIBILITY STUDY TOGETHER IN
2020.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN
FOR LISTENING AND BEING PART OF
THIS TODAY .
>> THANK YOU. KEVIN, YOU WILL
BE FOLLOWED BY BRIAN QUINT I
THINK AND THEN RYAN PACKER AND
THEN EDWARD HOSPITAL .
>> GOOD MORNING OR GOOD
AFTERNOON MR. O'BRIEN AND I'M
HERE SPEAKING AGAINST THE
HEATING OIL TAX BILL AND IN
PARTICULAR IT'S A MOVING TARGET
IT'S MY THIRD TIME TESTIFYING
HERE AND THIS MORNING WE GET A
LITTLE BATCH OF AMENDMENTS.
I'M PARTICULARLY UNCLEAR
WHETHER YOU THINK THIS IS A
MANDATE OR STATEMENT OF INTENT
ABOUT DECOMMISSIONING OR UP
GRADING ALL 20 TO 40 HEATING
OIL TANKS AND WILL THERE BE A
FIRE CODE AMENDMENT NEXT YEAR
TO ADDRESS THIS?
WILL THAT OR THIS ORDINANCE
REQUIRE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW?
WHEN WILL YOU DO A PROGRAMMATIC
RISK ASSESSMENT OF SHOULD THE
TANKS EVEN BE DISTURBED, AND
EQUITY ANALYSIS OF THE
HOMEOWNERS THAT WOULD HAVE TO
BEAR THE COST AND RISK OF NOT
ONLY CONVERTING A HEAT SOURCE
BUT POTENTIALLY DIGGING UP
THERE YARDS TO PULL OUT TANKS?
MONDAY YOU ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE
FOR THE GREEN NEW DEAL
OVERSIGHT BOARD AND THIS AS
WELL AS THE NATURAL GAS IT
SEEMS LIKE PERFECT EXAMPLES OF
THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD GIVE THE
BOARD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RUSH THEM
THROUGH AND WITH THE NEW
AMENDMENT YOU'VE CHANGED IT
FROM A FUND TO AN ACCOUNT.
IT STARTED IN THE BUDGET OFFICE
IN THE CITY AND THIS LANGUAGE
HAS NO LEGAL VALUE IN THE
FUTURE.
THE BUDGET OFFICE WILL RIP THIS
THE FIRST CHANCE THEY GET BUT
WHENEVER THEY NEEDED THE MONEY
THIS TAX WILL REPLACE WILL
REPLACE THE FUND .
>> HIGH COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN.
>> MY NAME IS BRIAN QUINT AND
MY BUSINESS IS AQUA QUIT AND
THE REASON MY BUSINESS GO BACK
TO THE EARLY 1900S, DOWN IN AN
AREA OF TOWN THAT WE NOW THINK
OF AS SOTO BEFORE THERE WAS A
DELL IF THE DOUGH STANDS FOR
DOME.
I REFLECTED OVER THE YEARS
WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS AND
LOOKED AT ALL THE VARIOUS
THINGS THAT WE DO NATURAL GAS
FROM SELLING FIREPLACE AND
FIRST TO HELP PEOPLE SEE HEAT
THEIR HOMES MORE EFFICIENTLY TO
ENHANCE QUALITY OF LIFE AND
LOOK AT OPTIONS TO NATURAL GAS
TO HEAT YOUR POOL BY
ELECTRICITY AND SPEND THE EXTRA
MONEY BUT A HEAT PUMP IN BUT
THE REALITY IS THAT THESE ARE
NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY
OPTIONS TO NATURAL GAS, PROPANE
THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS SO THE
REALITY IS THE INDUSTRY HAS
COME TOGETHER AND WE COME UP
úWITH INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY
THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO,
BOTH FOR CUSTOMERS AND OUR
PLANET AND FOR VARIOUS
STAKEHOLDERS, WE CAME TOGETHER
WITH THE PROCESS AND IT
MANDATES WHAT THEY CAN AND
CANNOT DO IN A GO FORWARD BASIS
.
>> OKAY.
RYAN?
>> YOU SHOULDN'T NEED AN APP TO
VIEW THE CITY I WILL BAR AWAY,
READING THE AGENDA IS LIKE
BEING IN A FIREFIGHTERS
CONVENTION AND NOT SEEING
ANYTHING ABOUT WATER.
IDS IS ESSENTIAL FOR MULTIMODAL
BALANCE IN THE PRESENTATION,
THIS ONLY MAKES SENSE IN THE
CONTEXT OF THE PRIMARY PURPOSE
OF THE TECHNOLOGY TO MOVE CARS
FASTER.
FREEWAY WIDENING IN CITIES IS
NOW TO SPEND TRANSPORTATION
DOLLARS ON TECHNOLOGY LIKE THIS,
THE PICTURE IS DIFFERENT THAN
MOVING EVERYONE MORE EFFICIENTLY
. THE CORRIDOR OPERATIONAL
IMPROVEMENT IS PLANNED AROUND
THE SALES ARENA AND PROJECTED
TO BE PEGGED AT $17 MILLION AND
YOU KIDS READ OR SQUEEZE MORE
JUICE OUT OF THE ORANGE.
WE DON'T NEED TO BALANCE
DIFFERENT ONES YOU NEED TO
PRIORITIZE WALKING BIKING IN
TRANSIT TO THE ORIGINAL GRANT
FOR MERCER STREET WHICH HAS A
DEPTH OF SIGNALS STATED THAT
THEY WOULD REDUCE TOTAL TRIPS
BY 20 MILLION PER YEAR THAT IS
PROVEN TO BE FALSE.
THEY INDUCE MORE TRIPS IN A
CITY THAT'S MOVING ITS CARBON
REDUCTION GOALS AS MUCH AS WE
ARE SHOULD NOT CONTINUE TO
INVEST IN THEM .
>> .
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY
WE ARE LOCATED IN MUKILTEO
WASHINGTON.
WE'VE BEEN BUILDING WOOD
PRODUCT GAS PRODUCT PELLET
STOVE PRODUCT FOR 40 YEARS HERE
N THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AS
OF LAST MONTH.
WHERE MANUFACTURER OF MANY GAS
APPLIANCES WHICH ARE SOLD TO
SPECIALTY HEART DEALERS INTO
THE PUBLIC.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE
PROPOSED BAN ON NATURAL GAS
PIPING.
I'M OPPOSED TO THE COUNCIL BILL
FOR MANY REASONS BUT THE MAIN
REASONS OF JOBS WE AT TRAVIS
INDUSTRIES EMPLOY ABOUT 600
EMPLOYEES, AS MENTIONED BEFORE
WE MANUFACTURE A PRODUCT SELL
TO SPECIALTY HEART STORES AND
THEN SELL TO THE PUBLIC THESE
ARE SMALL BUSINESSES AND ALSO
SUPPORT MANY FAMILIES.
JUST LIKE OUR FACTORY DOES.
THIS EQUATES TO MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN REVENUE LOSS.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN A
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND IF
THERE WAS WE DIDN'T GET TO
INCLUDE OUR VOICE.
WE ARE TALKING JOB LOSSES HERE
FROM THE MANUFACTURE LEVEL TO A
SMALL BUSINESS LEVEL.
PLEASE INCLUDE US IN THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS.
THANK YOU .
>> KIP?
>> HI, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US
COME HERE AND SPEAK TODAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS, I WORKED
WITH EDWARD AT TRAVIS
INDUSTRIES AND I'VE BEEN HERE
FOR 37 OF 40 YEARS AND WE MAKE
A LOT OF GAS PRODUCTS AND WOOD
PRODUCTS AND PELLET PRODUCTS
AND ALL OF THOSE PRODUCTS HAVE
COME UNDER FIRE AT DIFFERENT
TIMES ABOUT HOW CLEAN THEY ARE
AND WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THEM
CLEANER AND CLEANER BUT THIS IS
NOT JUST ABOUT JOBS AT OUR
FACTORY BUT RETAILERS, SERVICE
PEOPLE, INSTALLERS, GAS
COMPANIES, THE GUYS THAT RUN
THE GAS LINES AND SERVICE THE
GAS LINES, IT'S EVERYBODY AND
IT'S A PRODUCT THAT WORKS ON
THE POWER GOES OUT, IT
SOMETHING THAT WORKS TO HEAT
PEOPLE'S HOMES THEY CAN STILL
CLICK ON IT AND YOU CAN USE
THIS PRODUCT IN THE POWER GOES
OUT.
IT'S VITAL FOR MOST PEOPLE TO
BE COMFORTABLE IN THEIR OWN
HOMES.
BEING PART OF A STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS WOULD BE GREAT, WE JUST
FELT LIKE WE GOT SIDELINED THAT
WE HEARD ABOUT IT LAST WEEK AND
WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING LAST
WEEK AND THIS WEEK AND IT WAS
BOOM, WERE GOING TO TAKE AWAY
GAS NO ONE HAS A VOICE AND NO
ONE'S BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
IT AND WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF
THAT PROCESS.
THANK YOU .
>> JOHN CHAPMAN?
>> HI, I'M JOHN CHAPMAN AND I
REPRESENT RICHES FOR THE HOME
AND WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS 40
YEARS OF IN THE NORTHWEST THAT
WE SELL GAS APPLIANCES,
BARBECUES AND HEATERS.
THIS BAND POSES A SERIOUS
THREAT TO OVER 100 EMPLOYEES
AND SUBCONTRACTORS WHO ARE
INVOLVED IN NATURAL GAS
INSTALLATION.
I'M OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE
IT'S NOT BEING CONSIDERED OR
INVOLVING STAKEHOLDERS AND THE
PEOPLE IN THE CITY WHO USE
NATURAL GAS.
I'M OPPOSED BECAUSE I SEE HOW
THE DECISION WILL AFFECT COST
FOR TAXPAYERS THROUGHTHE CITY
AND HOW TO AFFECT GRID OR NO
ANALYSIS OF HOW IT WILL AFFECT
NATURAL GAS SYSTEMS EXPECT
THANK YOU .
>> TIM REID AND THEN TIM, HANG
ON ONE SECOND, YOU'RE GONNA BE
FOLLOWED BY KIRK SWANSON AND
KEITH NESTER AND MITCH BOWSER I
THINK .
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING A SPEAK
ON THIS, WE ARE EXCITED TO BE
HERE.
YOU KNOW, THE CLIMATE CHANGE
IMPACT IS A BIG DEAL AND IT'S
SOMETHING EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE
CONCERNED ABOUT SO, WHEN I WAS
ASKED TO COME REPRESENT OUR
INDUSTRY TO WHAT I WAS THINKING
ABOUT IS THIS IS A BIG ISSUE
AND I WORK FOR FIRE HOME
SOLUTIONS AND WE HAVE FIVE
SHOWROOMS AND WE HAVE 150
FAMILIES EMPLOYED WITH US AND
THEY ARE AT HUGE RISK OF LOSING
JOBS AT THE ORDINANCE WAS TO GO
THROUGH.
AND, THE BIGGER QUESTION THAT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS
LESS ABOUT EVEN WITH THE
DECISION IS BUT MORE ABOUT WHAT
A RUSH IT IS BEEN TO GET HERE
AND SO WHAT WERE ASKING FOR IS
THE ABILITY TO FORM A THINK
TANK OR COMMITTEE OVER THE NEXT
12 MONTHS TO INVOLVE
STAKEHOLDERS. TALKING ABOUT
THIS TO UNDERSTAND THE BEST
SOLUTION FOR THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND THEN MAKE THE RIGHT
DECISION ULTIMATELY FOR THE
PEOPLE BUT WE FEEL LIKE THERE
IS A LOT AT STAKE HERE WITH
ECONOMIC BUSINESSES AND WE HAVE
TRAVIS INDUSTRIES HERE WE HAD
FIRE SOLUTIONS AND RICHES AND
ALL KINDS OF SMALL BUSINESSES
AT RISK AND IT FEELS LIKE THE
VOICES OF THE PEOPLE BEING
AFFECTED HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD
AND SO WE ASK FOR THE PLATFORM
TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT .
>> THANK YOU .
>> THAT WAS TIM, RIGHT SORRY,
KURT .
>> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS KIRK SWANSON AND I'M
THE UNITED ASSOCIATION LOCAL 32
PLUMBER PIPE FITTER BUSINESS
AGENT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE
LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BAN
NATURAL GAS INSULATION IN THE
FUTURE BUILDINGS IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.
REPRESENTING HUNDREDS OF MEMBERS
WORKING IN THE NATURAL GAS
INDUSTRY.
WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IF THE
LEGISLATION IS PASSED, IT WOULD
RESULT IN THE LOSS OF FAMILY
WAGE PAYING WORK FOR MEMBERSHIP
. OUR MEMBERS WHO WORK IN THE
INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTE TO THE
LOCAL ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY. I
OPPOSE THIS COUNCIL BILL FOR
TWO PRIMARY REASONS.
THERE IS NO STAKEHOLDER PROCESS
CONDUCTED.
OUR MEMBERS WORK IN THE INDUSTRY
AND ARE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE
LEGISLATION.
THERE'S NO ANALYSIS OR
FEASIBILITY STUDY ON HOW THE
BILL WILL IMPACT THE IMPACT OF
THE ELECTRIC GRID IN THE GAS
SYSTEM.
PLEASE CONSIDER A YEAR-LONG
PROCESS THAT WILL INCLUDE INPUT
FROM BUSINESSES, WORKERS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
MANY MORE OF MY MEMBERS WOULD
BE HERE TODAY BUT THEY ARE OUT
SERVING THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS
MATTER .
>> THANK YOU, KURT.
>> KEITH?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MIKE O'BRIEN FOR LETTING ME
SPEAK ON THIS HIGH-RISE IN
OPPOSITION TO THE GAS BILL OR
LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING TO
GET PAST WERE TRYING TO GET
PAST.
I'M WITH THE PLUMBERS AND
PIPEFITTERS AS WELL HERE IN
LOCAL 32 IN SEATTLE AND I'VE
BEEN ESTEEM FITTER BY TRADE
MOST OF MY CAREER.
BEING IN MOST OF THESE
BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE,
THEY'VE HAD FURTHER STUDY DONE
ON THE IMPACT OF HIGH RISES
ABOVE 30 STORIES AND ABOVE THAT
ARE SOON TO COME TO THIS AREA
AND ALSO A STUDY ON THE IMPACT
OF BUILDINGS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN
THEY GET BUILT IN 2020 AND HEN
2021, SO THERE AGAIN I
ENCOURAGE A STAKEHOLDERS
COMMITTEE TO TAKE A FURTHER
LOOK AT THIS, YEAR-LONG PROCESS
SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT, MAYBE
BETTER AND GET ALL THE PLAYERS
IN THE ROOM, BEEN BUILDING
ENGINEERS, HEATING AND COOLING
PROFESSIONALS AND PEOPLE LIKE
THIS.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, KEITH .
>> MITCH, MICHIE WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY DENNIS MARTINEZ,
BEN DYER, BILLY HETHERINGTON
AND DALE BRIGHT .
>> HOW IS IT GOING, MY NAME IS
MITCH BALZER AND THANK YOU FOR
HAVING US HERE TODAY, I WORKED
WITH KEYSTONE ENERGY AND HAVE
BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND I
LIVE IN NORTH SEATTLE AND I
WORKED ON NATURAL GAS PIPE FOR
A LONG TIME, IT PROVIDES A
LIVABLE WAGE FOR FAMILIES. AS
YOU CAN SEE, OUR FUTURE
WORKFORCE, SOME OF THEM ARE
BACK HERE AND THIS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT JOB FOR US AND OUR
FAMILIES AND OUR PRODUCT IS SAFE
AND RELIABLE IT'S ON IN THE
WINTERTIME WHEN THE WIND BLOWS,
THE NATURAL GAS EQUIPMENT IS
STILL WORKING AND KEEPING THE
HOUSE WARM .
>> I AM DENNIS MARTINEZ AND I'M
40 YEARS IN THE TRADE AND I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BY THIS
BAND.
I AM A MINORITY, HISPANIC I
HAVE WORKED 40 YEARS IN THE
TRADE AND WITH THIS BAND YOU
HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF
THE CITIZENS THAT YOU ARE
AFFECTING.
A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS ARE
MINORITIES, WOMEN AND MEMBERS
OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AS WELL
AS VETERANS.
WE ARE ALL STRUGGLING TO MAKE
ENDS MEET THESE DAYS, PLEASE
RECONSIDER THIS. THANK YOU .
>>. I WILL DEFER MY TIME TO
MARK .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCILMEMBER
O'BRIEN, I'M MARK RIKER THE
EXECUTIVE SECRETARY OF THE
CONSTRUCTION TRADE COUNSEL IN
WASHINGTON REPRESENTING 80,000
CONTRUCTION WORKERS IN
WASHINGTON STATE, MANY OF WHOM
OU SEE HERE TOD
IT'S ON THEIR BEHALF THAT WE
ASK YOU SIMPLY SLOW IT DOWN A
LITTLE BIT.
I PUT IT THROUGH A STUDY SO WE
CAN GET COLLABORATION ON THE
RIGHT STEP TO TAKE.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROPERLY
INVOLVED IN THIS AND WHAT YOU
END UP WHEN YOU DO THAT IS
ALIENATE THE FOLKS YOU INTEND
TO SERVE AND OUT OF GOOD
MEASURE YOU INTEND TO SERVE US.
WE ACTUALLY WANT TO BE PART OF
THE PROCESS AND OFTEN TIMES
PEOPLE SAY THAT OLYMPIA CREATES
GREAT CHALLENGES AND GRIDLOCK
AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE A REALLY
GOOD EXAMPLE FOR ISSUES LIKE
THIS 100% CLEAN ENERGY BILLS IN
SENATE BILL 5116,
ENVIRONMENTALIST, LABOR,
POLITICIANS, SAT DOWN AT THE
TABLE AND CAME UP WITH
SOMETHING THAT DOES A GREAT
THING TOWARDS SOLVING THE
CHALLENGE OF FACING OUR
ENVIRONMENT AND DID IT IN A WAY
THAT WE ALL STUCK TOGETHER AND
IT'S THE RIGHT THING FOR THE
CITIZENS OF WASHINGTON STATE
AND FOR THE REGION AND OUR
PLANET.
WE DISCUSSED THAT WE BE PART OF
SHAPING OUR OWN FUTURE AND GIVE
US A CHANCE, WERE NOT GONNA SAY
NO AND WALK AWAY WORK WILL SAY
NO TO THIS AND WORK WITH YOU TO
MAKE THIS A BETTER PRODUCT SO
THE NEXT TIME IT COMES FORWARD
IT CAN HAVE US HELPING TO SHAPE
OUR FUTURE.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH .
>> BILLY?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCILEMBER
O'BRIEN AND I WORK WITH UNION
LOCAL 242 REPRESENT OVER 5500
MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK IN THE
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN KING
COUNTY.
I WANTED TO STAND IN OPPOSITION
TO AGENDA PIECE FIVE AND SIX
TODAY ON THE NATURAL GAS
INFRASTRUCTURE AND UNTIL WE CAN
GET A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DONE.
YOU HAVE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE
ROOM RIGHT HERE FROM ALL PARTS
OF THE INDUSTRY FROM SUPPLIERS
TO MEMBERS WHO DO THE INSTALL
TO EVERY FACILITY AND I JUST
WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU BILLY.
DALE?
>> DALE, YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED
BY STEPHEN TATE AND ART
RADCLIFFE AND DN GODFREY .
>> COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN, I'M
WITH THE LOCAL UNION 242 AND
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO BOTH BILLS AND WE
REPRESENT THE DISTRIBUTION
SYSTEM FOR NATURAL GAS IN
MAINLINE AND ALSO DO MAJOR
NATURAL GAS IN THE ORDINANCE
DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THEIR
LIVES AND CAREERS AND I THINK
IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE
NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CITIZENS
OF SEATTLE.
WE ASK YOU TO SLOW DOWN WITH
THE ROBUST STAKEHOLDER GROUP,
THIS WAS UNDERCOOKED AND I
THINK WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE
BETTER.
THANK YOU.
>> THINK YOU'D DALE.
STEPHEN?
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS STEPHEN
TATE AND I REPRESENT FIRESIDE
HOME SOLUTIONS AND OTHER HEARTH
PRODUCTS PROFESSIONALS HERE
TODAY. I AM OPPOSED TO
ELIMINATING GAS IS A CHOICE AS
A FUEL IN SEATTLE.
WE SELL AND INSTALL NATURAL GAS
FIREPLACES INSERTS, GAS GRILLS,
OUTDOOR FIRE PITS AND ALSO
COMMERCIAL GAS FIREPLACES AND
FIRE ARE AND OUR REVENUE IN
SEATTLE IN 2018 THAT WERE
DIRECTLY RELATED TO SEATTLE AND
STIJL'S AND SERVICE I LIVE IN
LAKE CITY IN SEATTLE I WORK IN
THE COMMERCIAL DEPARTMENT AND
WE INSTALL ALL OF THE LARGE
FIREPLACES WITH OUTDOOR
BARBECUE AREAS FOR MANY TENANTS
OF MANY OF THE BUILDINGS IN
SEATTLE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
CAN GO INTO MANY BUILDINGS IN
SEATTLE AND NOT FIND SOME KIND
OF GAS FIREPLACE FEATURE AND
THEY ARE ENJOYED BY ALL THOSE
PEOPLE.
I'VE BEEN IN THE HEARTH
INDUSTRY SINCE 1983 AND WORKED
IN MANUFACTURING AS WELL AS
RETAIL AND JUST LIKE A LOT OF
THE PROFESSIONALS IN THE
BUILDING THAT WE ARE A GOOD
RESOURCE FOR TALKING ABOUT
COMBUSTION AND FIRE AND HOW
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR INDUSTRY
AND HUMANS IN GENERAL.
OUR CLIENTS OF THE RESIDENCE IN
THE BUSINESSES OF SEATTLE .
>> MY TIME IS UP?
>> OH, ANYWAY, I'M OPPOSED.
THANK YOU THANK YOU STEPHEN,
ART?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
ART RADCLIFFE I WORK FOR A
MANUFACTURER FIREPLACES IN OUR
HEARTH PRODUCTS THAT ARE SOLD
INSTALLED AND USED FOR HOME
HEATING IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE
THIS WOULD IMPACT TO DIFFERENT
GROUPS, THE SPECIALTY HEARTH
RETAILERS THEY SELL AND INSTALL
AND MAINTAIN HOME HEATING
APPLIANCES, AND THE SECOND
STAKEHOLDERS ARE THE
SEATTLEITES WHO USE APPLIANCES
AND NATURAL GAS IS OFTEN THE
LOWEST COST ALTERNATIVE TO ZONE
HEAT A HOME.
I AM OPPOSED TO THIS BILL AS
INPUT FROM LEGAL STAKEHOLDERS
HAVE NOT YET BEEN GATHERED.
THANK YOU .
>> DAN? YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
BRAD WINSTEAD DANIEL HAMMER AND
RICK LUCAS .
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY, I AM THE OWNER OF
BELLEVUE FIREPLACE SHOP BEEN IN
BUSINESS SINCE 1959.
80% OF MY BUSINESS IS NATURAL
GAS. 40% OF THAT IS DONE IN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE THIS WOULD HAVE
A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON
EVERYONE WHO LOOKS AT US AND
ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS WHO SPEND
MORE ON ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF
HEAT.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME BEING
HERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS
IMPORTANT THAT I NEEDED TO SHOW
UP AND I DIFFER THE BEST OF MY
TIME TO DANIEL FROM SUTTER.
>> THANK YOU, I WILL NOT BE
SPEAKING ON MY NEXT TERM
BECAUSE HERE I AM, I AM OPPOSED
TO THE BILL BECAUSE IT'S NOT
CONSIDERED INVOLVED
STAKEHOLDERS LIKE PEOPLE IN THE
CITY A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT
OF VESTED INTEREST IN THIS
RESOURCE AND I'M ALSO OPPOSED
BECAUSE I SEE NO ANALYSIS OF
HOW THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT
COST OR RATE REPAIRS THROUGHOUT
THE CITY.
I'VE SEEN HOW IT COULD NOT HAVE
ANALYSIS AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS
OF SMALL BUSINESSES AND
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AFFECTED BY
THIS DECISION AND THERE MUST BE
STRONG STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT
IN THOROUGH ANALYSIS FIRST
BEFORE A BILL LIKE THIS CAN BE
CONSIDERED.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU .
>> BRAD?
>> IS BRAD WINSTEAD HERE?
>> HE'S NOT GOING TO SPEAK .
>> DANIEL JUST SPOKE SO RICK
LUCAS?
>> RICK YOU ARE FOLLOWED BY
BLAKE DIXON, BILL GIBBON AND
TROY OLSON .
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME MY
NAME IS RICK LUCAS AND I
REPRESENT ASSOCIATED ENERGY
SYSTEMS, HEARTH DISTRIBUTOR HAS
BEEN IN BUSINESS IN WASHINGTON
FOR OVER 40 YEARS WE HAVE OVER
120 EMPLOYEES.
WE DO ROUGHLY $2 MILLION IN THE
SEATTLE MARKET OF SALES EVERY
YEAR. I'M A STAKEHOLDER TWICE,
I OWN A HOME IN SEATTLE AND I
SELF FIREPLACE PRODUCTS INTO
SEATTLE.
SO, I DO NOT FEEL MY VOICES
BEING HEARD AT ALL AND I'M VERY
INTERESTED IN A STUDY AND I
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT MY
ELECTRIC BILLS COULD BE IN THE
NEAR FUTURE THAT YOU ARE TRYING
TO BUILD.
I HAVE NO IDEA HOW FAST MY COST
WILL ESCALATE FOR HEATING MY
HOME. AND, IT CERTAINLY LOOKS
LIKE I COULD LOSE A FAIR SHARE
OF MY BUSINESS AS WELL IF IT
PASSES SO OBVIOUSLY AM AGAINST
THIS AND I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT THIS .
>> THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS BLAKE DIXON AND I
RATHER RESENT A DISTRIBUTOR OF
HEARTH APPLIANCES AS WELL AS
KITCHEN APPLIANCES ARE
CURRENTLY IN THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON WE HAVE 75
EMPLOYEES, ALL OF WHICH WOULD
BE IMPACTED WITH THE NATURAL
GAS BAN. WE DO MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS INTO THE CITY OF SEATTLE
AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, MIKE, BILL?
>> HELLO MY NAME IS BILL GIBBON
AND I REPRESENT REGENCY
FIREPLACE PRODUCTS,
MANUFACTURER BOTH GAS AND WOOD-
BURNING FIREPLACE PRODUCTS.
ACROSS MY TERRITORY I SUPPORTED
DEALER NETWORK OF ABOUT 40
DEALERS, MUCH OF IT DOING
BUSINESS HERE IN SEATTLE HAS
SOME OF THEM WE HAVE ALREADY
HEARD FROM TODAY.
AND WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE
IMPACT ON THE RETAIL SIDE AND
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT FROM SUTTER
AND AQUA BEEN RICHESON THOSE
GUYS AND LET ME KIND OF PAIN A
PICTURE OF WHAT THE TYPICAL
DEALER LOOKS LIKE A CROSS MY
TERRITORY.
THEY ARE TYPICALLY ANYWHERE
FROM 6125 EMPLOYEES AND A LOT
OF TIMES THE BUSINESS OWNER IS
ON THE FRONT LINES LIKE DAN
FROM BELLEVUE AND THE GUYS FROM
SUTTER.
THEY ARE TYPICALLY A HUSBAND-
AND-WIFE COMBO AND MAYBE THE
WIFE IS THE SALES/CUSTOMER
SERVICE AND THE HUSBAND IS THE
INSTALLER.
SO, THESE ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS,
IT'S NOT JUST JOBS THAT IS
THEIR INCOME IS THIS BUSINESS
AND THAT IS WHAT THE MAJORITY
OF THE HEARTH INDUSTRY LOOKS
LIKE SO, THOSE ARE THE
STAKEHOLDERS I'M TRULY
CONCERNED WITH AND THAT IS WHAT
I WANTED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT
MAKE SURE WE ARE STUDYING ALL
OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, TROY?
>> TROY YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
LEAH MESSICK, SCOTT MIDDLETON
AND THEN DOUBLEÃ
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
BRIAN AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A VOICE, I
REPRESENT A COMPANY CALLED WILL
STILL WHERE THE MANUFACTURER OF
HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING
APPLIANCES, FIREPLACES AND
BARBECUES, THIS BAN WOULD
AFFECT ALL THREE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD
LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT
CULTURALLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT HERE IS NOT BEING ABLE TO
PROVIDE HEAT RELIABLE AND COST-
EFFECTIVE HEAT FOR HOMES,
ESPECIALLY IN BOTH MIDDLE AND
LOW INCOME LEVELS THE CULTURE
SIMPLY HAVING A FIREPLACE, SOME
PLACE TO HANG YOUR STOCKING ON,
NO ONE WANTS TO ROB A FAMILY OF
THAT TYPE OF A MEMORY IN THE
FUTURE OR BARBECUES OUTSIDE,
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE CONGREGATE
OUTSIDE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND
FRIENDS OF THIS BAN WOULD
AFFECT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND
I DON'T THINK IT'S BEING
CONSIDERED AND WHICH IS WHY
WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT HAVING
A STAKEHOLDER SESSION WHERE WE
COULD DO SOME REASONABLE
STUDIES HERE.
WE CURRENTLY REPRESENT ABOUT
180 SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE
PUGET SOUND AREA THROUGH ALL
PHASES OF OUR BUSINESS AND THIS
WOULD AFFECT EVERY SINGLE ONE
OF THOSE BUSINESSES AND THEIR
FAMILIES.
SO, I OPPOSE THIS AND I SURE
HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER TAKING A
STEP BACK AND LOOKING AT THIS
THROUGH REALISTIC EYES.
THANK YOU EXPECT THANK YOU,
TROY EXPECT LEAH?
>> .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
LEAH MESSICK AND I'M WITH
CLIMATE SOLUTIONS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE
BENEFITS OF ELECTRIC BUILDINGS
AND IN SUPPORT OF TO ORDINANCE
BEFORE US THAT WILL LET US SEE
MORE OF THEM.
HERE IN SEATTLE WE HAVE ACCESS
TO AMPLE ELECTRICITY HOWEVER,
BUILDINGS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
OVER ONE THIRD OF OUR MISSIONS
AND OF THAT AMOUNT OIL AND GAS
ACCOUNT FOR A WHOPPING 78%.
SUPPORTING THIS TRANSITION TO
ALL ELECTRIC BUILDINGS
ADDRESSES BOTH THE NEED TO
SUBSTANTIALLY CUT POLLUTION AND
IMPROVE HEALTH AND SAFETY.
EATING OIL IS A PUBLIC HEALTH
ISSUE IN IN SEATTLE ABOUT A
QUART OF OIL TANKS ARE LEAKING
AND HEATING OIL IS ALSO
EXPENSIVE.
AFTER SWITCHING TO ELECTRICITY
PEOPLE WILL HAVE A FISHING
CLEAN EATING AT A MUCH MORE
STABLE AND LOWER COST AND WILL
ALSO BE ELIGIBLE FOR ENERGY
ASSISTANCE.
WE ARE EXCITED THE CITY WILL BE
FULLY FUNDING THE TRANSITION
FOR PEOPLE WHO MEET INCOME
QUALIFICATIONS INCLUDING
RENTERS.
JUST AS HEATING OIL IS
EXPENSIVE GAS IS A VERY
UNSTABLE MARKET WITH
FRUSTRATING PRICES AND IS ALSO
CURRENTLY SUBSIDIZED.
WE SHOULD RELY ON OUR OWN LOCAL
CLEAN ENERGY SOURCES.
GAS IS ALSO INCREDIBLY
UNHEALTHY AND UNSAFE AND
BURNING GAS INDOORS PRODUCES
PARTICULATE MATTER, NITROUS
úOXIDE, CARBON MONOXIDE AND
FORMALDEHYDE WHICH IS DANGEROUS
TO OUR HEALTH.
GAS PIPELINES ARE KNOWN TO
EXPLODE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO A
PIPELINE EXPLODED RIGHT BY MY
HOMETOWN KILLING SOMEBODY AND
DAMAGING HOMES AND BURNING OVER
30 ACRES OF LAND.
HAPPILY WE CAN AVOID THESE
PROBLEMS BY MOVING TO HEALTHY
CLEAN ALL ELECTRIC THINGS WHICH
ARE NOT ONLY IN OUR REACH BUT
HERE NOW LET'S ALSO HELP THOSE
WITH THE MOST POLLUTING HOMES
MAKE THE TRANSITION JUST LIKE
THE OIL HEATING ORDINANCE DOES.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS
THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, LEAH.
>> SCOTT MIDDLETON?
THEN KELLY IS THERE ANOTHER
SIGN IN SHEET?
>> WHEN SCOTT STARTS CAN YOU
GRAB THAT .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN
O'BRIEN FOR THE RECORD MY NAME
IS SCOTT MIDDLETON AND I'M
GENERAL COUNSEL AND GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS DIRECTOR FOR THE
MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS
ASSOCIATION OF WESTERN
WASHINGTON.
WE REPRESENT APPROXIMATELY 100
SIGNATORY MECHANICAL
CONTRACTORS WHO EMPLOY
APPROXIMATELY 5000 UNION
PLUMBERS AND PIPEFITTERS IN THE
WESTERN WASHINGTON AREA
INCLUDING RIGHT HERE IN SEATTLE.
OUR CONTRACTORS ARE ENGAGED IN
PLUMBING AND PIPEFITTING AND
HVAC WORK MERRILY ON COMMERCIAL
AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.
WE OPPOSE THE PROPOSED
ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT
NATURAL GAS PIPING SYSTEMS IN
NEW BUILDINGS FOR A NUMBER OF
REASONS, PRIMARILY IT WOULD
LIMIT BUILDING SYSTEMS OPTIONS,
PARTICULARLY FOR HOSPITALS LABS
AND OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS,
IT WOULD PUSH HIGH COST ONTO
THE CONSUMER AND IN FACT ONE OF
THE MEMBERS PROJECTS THAT THIS
WOULD INCREASE CONSUMER COST
THE TWO-POINT SIX TIMES PER
UNIT OF HEAT FOR AN ALL
ELECTRIC BUILDING. THE BUILDING
THAT WOULD BE LIMITED BY
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT'S LACK OF
POWER SUPPLY INFRASTRUCTURE TO
SUPPORT THE ADDED LOAD THAT
WOULD COME FROM ALL ELECTRIC
BUILDINGS.
WE DO SUPPORT THE FORMATION OF
A BROAD STAKEHOLDER GROUP TO
ENGAGE IN A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY
AND REPORT TO THE COUNCIL IS
OUR BUILDING TRADES PARTNERS AT
THE UA HAVE PROPOSED.
WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS GROUP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER .
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT .
>> OF BRITNEY, YOU WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY DAVE GOERING AND
THEN AMY AND DOUG McDONALD, AND
THEN ELEANOR BASCH IN HIS LAST
.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON
COUNCILMEMBER, MY NAME IS
BRITTANY AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE SIERRA CLUB.
I'M HERE TO REITERATE OUR
SUPPORT FOR THE PRO-CLIMATE OIL
AND NATURAL GAS POLICIES AND
DISCUSS TODAY.
THE SCIENCE THAT WE ARE LED BY
IS UNEQUIVOCAL.
WE NEED TO GET FOSSIL FUELS OUT
OF OUR BUILDINGS AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE TO AVOID THE WORST
IMPACT OF TIME IT CHANGE.
BUILDINGS ARE THE FASTEST
GROWING SOURCE OF CLIMATE
POLLUTION IN WASHINGTON STATE
AND MORE THAN 50% SINCE 1990.
HOMES AND BUSINESSES IN
WASHINGTON NOW CONSUMED TWICE
AS MUCH FRAT GAS AS ALL OF THE
STATES POWER PLANTS.
THIS GAS POLLUTES TO THE POINT
OF EXTRACTION, IT POLLUTES
DURING TRANSIT AND IT POLLUTES
BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AIR
WHEN USED, THE ONLY RESPONSE
THAT MAKES SENSE TO PRESERVE
THE FUTURE FOR OUR FAMILIES
FUTURES, MY CHILD'S FUTURE IS
TO STOP DIGGING THE HOLE DEEPER
AND STOP INVITING FOSSIL FUELS
INTO OUR HOMES.
WITH SOME OF THE CHEAPEST AND
CLEANEST ENERGY IN THE NATION,
WASHINGTON STATE IS IDEALLY
PLACED TO BE A NATIONAL CLIMATE
LEADER BY MOVING AWAY FROM
DANGEROUS UNHEALTHY AND
UNJUSTLY SUBSIDIZED NATURAL GAS
INTO ELECTRIC APPLIANCES AND
HEATING.
>> TO QUOTE AN ARTICLE FROM THE
NEW SITE, GENERATIONS FROM NOW
PEOPLE WILL REACT TO THE IDEA
THAT PIPING GAS INTO HOUSES THE
SAME WAY WE THINK OF BURNING
COAL IN THE FIREPLACE, AS A
RELIC OF A LESS ADVANCED AND
SET FILLED TIME.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, BRITNEY .
>> DAVE?
>> MY NAME IS DAVE AND I'M THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL
COUNSEL OF SEATTLE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET
WHILE THIS IS PENDING BUT ONE
OF OUR LEADING MEMBERS, NUCOR
STEEL SUBMITTED AN OUTSTANDING
LETTER TO THE COUNCIL YESTERDAY
EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT THE
TWO MEASURES.
WE WOULD ALSO SUPPORT THE GO
SLOW APPROACH, BUT WE REALLY DO
APPRECIATE WHY YOU ARE BRINGING
THIS FORWARD, COUNCILMEMBER AND
YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH YOU DID
SOME REALLY THOUGHTFUL WORK ON
COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING FOR
INDUSTRIAL LANDS AND WE THINK
ISSUE WOULD REALLY MAKE MORE
SENSE THAN THE CURRENT ONE.
IF THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE GET
TO TALK TO BEFORE YOU GO OFF TO
THE NEXT CHAPTER OF YOUR LIFE
THE BEST OF LUCK TO YOU, WE
DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE ON THINGS
BUT WE AGREED ON A LOT MORE
THINGS AND PEOPLE THOUGHT AND I
NEVER QUESTIONED YOUR
COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY SO
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
ISSUE UP AND I THINK YOU'VE
TRIGGERED A GREAT DISCUSSION
THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, DAVE.
AMY?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON AND MY NAME
IS AMY WILLIS AND EMMA POLICY
ASSOCIATE WITH THE NORTHWEST
ENERGY COALITION WE ARE A
PUBLIC INTEREST NONPROFIT
WORKING ON ENERGY AND TO
ADVANCE THE MISSION OF CLEAN
AND AFFORDABLE ENERGY.
TO THE OIL AND HEATING
ORDINANCE I JUST WANT TO OFFER
OUR STRONG SUPPORT FOR THIS
CONSIDERED APPROACH FOR
REDUCING EMISSIONS FROM
RESIDENTIAL BUILDING SECTOR AND
IN ADDITION TO REDUCING
POLLUTION, CONVERTING ELECTRIC
HEAT PUMPS TO LOWER ENERGY
BILLS AND IMPROVE THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY OF THE HOMES.
THIS CENTERS LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS AND HELPS THEM
TRANSITION TO CLEANER ENERGY.
THEY SET ASIDE FUNDS FOR NEEDED
OF PRESCIENCE AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO ENGAGING AS THE TIME
IS IMPLEMENTED AND WE CAN WEAVE
ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
WEATHERIZATION AND FUNDS
TOGETHER TO MAKE HOMES HAVE THE
MOST COMFORTABLE AND EFFICIENT
HOMES AS POSSIBLE.
ON THE GAS HOOKUPS ORDINANCE I
APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER
O'BRIEN AND THE COMMUNITY THAT
WILL BE AFFECTED BY CLIMATE
CHANGE BRINGING THE ORDINANCE
TO ORDER AS PART OF THE GREEN
NEW DEAL.
IT STARTED A VERY USEFUL AND
NEEDED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
NATURAL GAS IN OUR BUILDINGS
AND HOW WE CAN REDUCE OMISSIONS
IN THE BUILDING SECTOR I JUST
WANT TO OFFER UP THE NORTHWEST
ENERGY COALITION WE HAVE A
MEMBER-BASED ORGANIZATION AND
WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE ELECTRIC
SYSTEM ENERGY SYSTEM AND HOW
BUILDINGS CAN AND SHOULD OPERATE
AND AS THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS
THE TECHNOLOGY, COST, TIMING
AND HEALTH ISSUES ASSOCIATED
WITH THE ORDINANCE WERE HAPPY
TO PROVIDE YOUR SYSTEMS.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, AMY, DOUG?
>>
>> I'M DOUG McDONALD AND I'M
SURE YOU WOULD'VE BEEN
DISAPPOINTED IF NO ONE HAD COME
TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE
SIDEWALK CAFC PROPOSAL SO I
JUST MAKE A COUPLE POINTS.
FIRST OF ALL THERE'S NOBODY I
KNOW WHO IS AGAINST SIDEWALK
CAFCS AND SECONDLY WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE SLIDESHOW THAT SDOT
IS BRINGING TODAY, YOU WILL SEE
SOMETHING INTERESTING, THE
GOALS OF THE PROGRAM.
THE LAST OF THE GOALS IS TO
MAKE IT BETTER FOR SIDEWALK
BUSINESSES IN THE NEXT OF THE
LAST OF THE GOALS IS TO MAKE
THE COMMUNITY MORE VIBRANT AND
THE FIRST IS TO MAKE SIDEWALKS
MORE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS MUCH TO DO
WITH THE FIRST OF THE GOALS BUT
I'M STILL FOR SIDEWALK CAFCS,
THERE ARE THREE THINGS I THINK
I WISH HAD MORE ATTENTION AND
ONE IS THAT THE RIGHTS OF THE
SIDEWALK CAFC OWNERS ARE NOT
VESTED AND SO LOTS OF LEGACY
INSTALLATIONS DON'T MATCH THE
OPERATIONS THE SI HAS FOR NEW
INSTALLATIONS AND YET IT SEEMS
TO BE, WITH SOME EXCEPTION,
KIND OF A GRANDFATHERING
PRINCIPLE THAT IF YOU'VE GOT IT
YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE IT AND A
LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MAKING A LOT
OF MONEY AND I WISH THERE WERE
MORE ATTENTION TO THE QUESTION
GIVEN HOW STRAPPED WE ARE FOR
REVENUE IF WE COULD ASK WHETHER
THE FEE IS GETTING FOR US WHAT
WE NEED AND ARE ENTITLED TO FOR
THE FACT THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE
GONNA BE USED AS RESTAURANTS
AND BARS.
AND IF SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING,
THE ONLY ENFORCEMENT, THERE IS
AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM
TRIGGERED BY WHAT IS CALLED
COMPLAINT BASED ENFORCEMENT AND
TO DO THAT THING COMPLAINT
BASED ENFORCEMENT IN AROUND THE
VARIOUS IN SEATTLE TO MAKE THE
CITY AS LITTLE AS WE WOULD
LIKE.
THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU, ELEANOR ?
>> ELEANOR YOU ARE THE LAST ONE
WHO SIGNED UP, GO AHEAD.
IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE IN THE
AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
PUBLIC COMMENTS WHO DIDN'T SIGN
UP, JUST TO ABIDE ELEANOR AND I
WILL KEEP PUBLIC COMMON OPEN
FOR A FEW MORE MOMENTS.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON I'M ELEANOR
BASCH AND I'M THE CLIMATE AND
CLEAN ENERGY POLICY MANAGER AT
THE WASHINGTON ENVIRONMENTAL
COUNCIL.
THE WASHINGTON ENVIRONMENTAL
COUNCIL IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THAT IS
WORK FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS FOR
PROGRESSIVE CHANGE.
I AM PLEASED TO COMMENT AGAIN
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE HEATING
OIL LEGISLATION.
THIS POLICY REPRESENTS A
TARGETED PROACTIVE APPROACH TO
REDUCING FOSSIL FUEL USE IN THE
RESIDENTIAL
>> THAT ANTICIPATES AND
INTEGRATES CHALLENGES TO LOW
INCOME FOLK IN A CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSITION.
WE HOPE THIS WILL BE A MODEL
EFFORT FOR OTHER PLACES IN
SECTORS.
WE ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO
ENGAGING WITH THE COUNCIL ON
HEALTHY HOMES AND HEALTHY
BUILDINGS AND OTHER PLANS TO
MANAGE THE CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSITION UNDER GREEN NEW
DEAL.
CHANGE IS HARD CLIMATE CHANGE
IS HARD AND I BELIEVE THAT BY
PUTTING TOWARDS THIS PROPOSAL
AND A LISTENING INTEREST IN
PARTICIPATION AT THIS HEARING
YOUR BEGINNING THE PROCESS
TOWARDS COMING UP WITH A PLAN
THAT WILL WORK TO PUT NATURAL
GAS IN OUR HOMES AND BUILDINGS
AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE
ATTENDED TODAY WILL SHARE THE
SAME COMMITMENT GOING FORWARD
TO THE PROCESS. I DON'T SEE
ANYONE ELSE STEPPING FORWARD SO
I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR
COMING OUT TODAY, I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE INPUT.
I HEAR THE CONCERNS THAT MY
ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO VOTE ON
THE LEGISLATION TODAY, I AM NOT
GOING TO DO THAT TODAY.
YOU ARE RIGHT, I NEED TO GET
MORE INPUT AND HEAR MORE
FEEDBACK FROM FOLK.
I WANT TO NAME SOME GROUPS I
HEARD AND INVITE SOME FOLKS TO
REACH OUT TO ME AND OBVIOUSLY
I'M WELL AWARE OF PUGET SOUND
ENERGY AND THE WORK THEY DO AND
I HAVE CONTACT WITH PUGET SOUND
ENERGY AND HAVE HAD
CONVERSATIONS AND WILL CONTINUE
TO DO THAT.
I HAVE HAD CONTACTS WITH THE
REPRESENTATIVE WORKFORCE,
SPECIFICALLY THE PLUMBERS AND
PIPEFITTERS AND SO, I HAVE
CHANNELS TO REACH LABORERS AND
PIPEFITTERS AND OTHER FOLKS IN
THE TRADE, SO I WILL REACH OUT
TO THOSE FOLK. WE HEARD FROM A
LOT OF FOLK IN VARIOUS ASPECTS
OF THE APPLIANCE RETAIL INDUSTRY
RETAIL DISTRIBUTION AND
MANUFACTURING AND I KNOW A
BUNCH OF YOU EITHER LEFT PHONE
NUMBERS OR EMAIL SO, WE CAN
REACH OUT TO YOU.
I HAVE THE SENSE THAT THERE IS
AN INDUSTRY ORGANIZATION OR TWO
THAT MAY REPRESENT YOU ALL IF
SOMEONE WOULDN'T MIND COMING UP
TO KELLY AS WE JUMP IN TO SHARE
THAT, WE WILL TRY TO REACH OUT
TO EVERYONE BUT IF THERE'S A
CENTRAL POINT OF CONTACT I
WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY -- I
KNOW DAN AT SUTTER HEARTH AND
HOME, THANK YOU, GOT IT. BUT,
LET ME KNOW WHO THE MAIN POINT
OF CONTACT IS.
I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM FOLKS
AND I'M OPEN TO BRINGING 40 OF
YOU TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT IT
OR IF THERE'S A COUPLE REPS
THAT LEANNE PRESENTED A
PROPOSAL FOR A STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS AND I HAVEN'T HAD A
CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT BUT I
WILL LOOK AT IT AND IT WILL
PROBABLY NOT MAKE SENSE SO
WE'RE LOOKING FOR
REPRESENTATIVES BUT THIS WILL
HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT AND
I'M MAY REACH OUT TO GIVE
EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO
INDIVIDUALLY SPEAK IN NARROW IT
DOWN TO APPROPRIATE
REPRESENTATIVES.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT
LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE WILL PROCEED
FROM THERE.
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO
REACH ME SO, IF IN THE NEXT
WEEK OR SO FOLK'S HAVEN'T HEARD
OR YOUR NETWORK HASN'T HEARD
BECAUSE I'VE MISSED SOMEONE I
INVITE YOU TO REACH OUT TO ME
FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE
BUT SOME OF YOU MAY NOT STICK
AROUND FOR MULTIPLE HOURS OF
THE COMMITTEE MEETING BUT I
WANTED TO SPEAK TO IT BRIEFLY
WHILE WE WERE HERE BUT THE
PRINCIPLES AROUND THE GREEN NEW
DEAL, AS I ENVISIONED THEM ARE
A COUPLE POINTS THAT ARE REALLY
CLEAR-CUT ONE IS THE CLIMATE
THREAT THAT WE ARE FACING
ISRAEL AND ITS IMMINENT AND I
WISH WE HAD 20 OR 30 YEARS TO
FIGURE THIS OUT AND I WISH WE
STARTED IN EARNEST IN
CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS 20 OR
30 YEARS AGO, BUT I DON'T GET
TO CHANGE THE SCIENCE AND I
FEAR THAT BECAUSE EVERY YEAR IN
THE LAST 10 YEARS, EVERY TIME
WE GET NEW DATA POINTS IT'S
WORSE THAN WE THINK THAT THE
TREND WILL CONTINUE.
SO THERE IS A SENSE OF URGENCY
AROUND THAT.
BUT, ANOTHER KEY PRINCIPLE OF A
GREEN NEW DEAL, A CRITICAL
PIECE IS A TRANSITION AWAY FROM
FOSSIL FUELS CAN'T BE
DISPROPORTIONATELY ON THE BACKS
OF PEOPLE ON THE FRONT LINE,
WHETHER THOSE ARE WORKERS OR
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR FOLKS
TO RELY ON FOSSIL FUELS FOR
HEAT AND TRANSPORTATION, SO,
HEARING FROM ALL OF YOU I KNOW
IT'S A BIG LIFT AND SOMEONE DID
A LOT OF ORGANIZING TO GET SO
MANY FOLKS OUT TODAY AND YOU'RE
MOTIVATED BECAUSE IT'S AN
IMPACT HONORING THAT COMMITMENT
TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL ABOUT HOW
WE CAN MEET FROM THE TRANSITION
AND THE CLIMATE GOALS AND IT'S
NOT GONNA BE EASY THERE WILL BE
IMPACT BUT IT'S ALSO ABSOLUTELY
FAIR OF YOU TO ASK AND SAY WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU YOU
UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WILL IMPACT
OUR BUSINESS AND HOW I WILL
CRAFT LEGISLATION THAT
MINIMIZES THE IMPACTS AND FINES
ALTERNATIVES WERE POSSIBLE.
THANKS AGAIN FOR BEING HERE,
FOR ENGAGING WITH ME AND THERE
IS MORE TO COME ON THAT.
>> I AM GOING TO MOVE ON TO
APPROVING THE AGENDA.
I WILL WALK THROUGH IT BRIEFLY.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
APPOINTMENTS TODAY THAT WE WILL
CONSIDER TWO SCHOOLS, TRAFFIC
COMMITTEES AND OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEES, APPOINTMENT TO THE
SUITE IN BEVERAGE TAX ADVISORY
BOARD AND WE WILL THEN CONSIDER
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE,
NATURAL GAS WITH A BRIEF
DISCUSSION ON THAT BUT AS I
MENTIONED PROBABLY MORE TO
REITERATE WHAT'S IN THE
LEGISLATION TODAY AND ANYMORE
THOUGHTS ABOUT NEXT STEPS BUT I
WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNOW WE
WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THAT
TODAY.
NEXT WE TAKE UP AN ORDINANCE
RELATED TO HOME HEATING OIL AND
WE DO HAVE AMENDMENTS TO
CONSIDER TODAY AND POSSIBLY
VOTE ON THOSE, THAT WOULD BE MY
HOPE, TO GET IT OUT OF
COMMITTEE BUT WE WILL SEE HOW
THE DISCUSSION GOES.
>> WE WILL HEAR ABOUT AN
ORDINANCE RELATED TO SIDEWALK
CAFCS WITH ONE PUBLIC COMMENT
ON THAT, WE HAVE ONE STREET
ORDINANCE AND A PRESENTATION ON
THE INTELLIGENCE TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEM THAT WE HAD ONE COMMENT
ON THAT AND THE ORDINANCE WITH
THE TRAFFIC CODE AND AN
ORDINANCE TO CITY STREETS BY
CHANGING THE NAME'S IN
NORTHWEST LOCKS PLACED TO A
SMALL SECTION OF STREET IN
BALLARD.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO
SECONDLY, APPROVE THE AGENDAS
OF THE AGENDA IS NOW APPROVED,
WHERE WE TOOK THINGS A LITTLE
OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE WE DID
PUBLIC COMMENT BUT NOW WE WILL
MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM OF
BUSINESS AND WE WILL HAND THIS
OVER TO READ THE FIRST
APPOINTMENT IN .
>> APPOINTMENT 01417,
APPOINTMENT OF CHARLIE SIMPSON
AS A MEMBER TO SEATTLE SCHOOL
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR A
TERM TO MARCH 31 THROUGH 2022 .
>> WELCOME.
>> WHEN YOU ARE SETTLED WE WILL
HAVE INTRODUCTIONS .
>> NAME OJUS NAME FOR NOW .
>> CHARLIE SIMPSON
>> THIS MAKES WALKING AND BIKING
TO SCHOOL SAFER.
THE VOLUNTEER BOARD OF 11
MEMBERS ARE CREATED BY SEATTLE
CITY COUNCIL IN 1975, ONE OF
THE FIRST COMMITTEES OF ITS
TYPE IN THE NATION.
IT WORKS TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC
SAFETY FOR ALL SCHOOLCHILDREN
IN SEATTLE.
THE COMMITTEE ADVISES THE MAYOR
AND CITY COUNCIL WITH RESPECT
TO SCHOOL TRAFFIC SAFETY
INCLUDING ADULT CROSSING GUARD
LOCATIONS, SCHOOL TRAFFIC SIGNS
AND SIGNALS, SCHOOL SAFETY
PATROLS, BICYCLE FACILITIES AND
TRAFFIC SAFETY EDUCATION .
>> I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT
CHARLIE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR
AN APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMITTEE
.
>> SO YOU MUST HAVE SOME
INTEREST IN KEEPING KIDS
ANOTHER SAFE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT
?
>> ABSOLUTELY .
>> YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE .
>> TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT
YOURSELF AND WHY IT INTERESTS
YOU .
>> MY NAME IS CHARLIE SIMPSON
AND AS I SAID, I'M CURRENTLY A
PLANNER AT ALL TO PLANNING AND
DESIGN, AND URBAN PLANNING,
PARTICULARLY ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION PLANNING FIRM
AND MY PASSION IS SAFE STREETS.
I BELIEVE EVERY KID,
PARTICULARLY, CHILDREN ARE SOME
OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE USERS OF
OUR STREET AND I THINK EVERY
KID SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO
AND FROM SCHOOL SAFELY WITHOUT
GETTING INSIDE OF A VEHICLE OR
WHETHER IT IS WALKING, BIKING
OR ROLLING.
>> GREAT .
>> AND, I AM FAMILIAR WITH ALL
TO AND YOU GUYS DO GREAT WORK
AND I'M PLEASED TO HAVE THE
CITY PARTNER WITH YOU ON
MULTIPLE PRODUCTS.
TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR
WORK THAT OVERLAPS WITH THIS .
>> YEAH, SO, I JUST, I HAVE
BEEN WITH ALTAR JUST AROUND
FOUR MONTHS OR SO AND I'M
CURRENTLY A SECOND YEAR MASTERS
OF URBAN PLANNING STUDENT AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH A
NUMBER OF THOSE PROJECTS AND I
BELIEVE STRONGLY IN THE SAFE
CHOOL PROGRAM THAT THE CITY
SEATTLE HAS AND HOPE THAT MY
POSITION ON THE COMMITTEE CAN
HELP PUSH THAT AGENDA FORWARD
AND THEN INITIATIVE FORWARD SO
WE CAN GET SAFER STREETS FOR
KIDS AND I AGREE WITH YOUR
VISION OF MAKING THE CITY SAFE
FOR ALL USERS AND STARTING WITH
THE MOST VULNERABLE USERS, I'M
SURE OF THE COMMITMENT TO
ELIMINATE ALL SERIOUS INJURIES
AND FATALITIES IN THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR AND IT'S
BEEN A ROUGH YEAR FRANKLY
DESPITE SEATTLE MAKING GOOD
INVESTMENTS, THE DATA SHOWS
THAT WE'VE SEEN MORE FATALITIES
AND MORE SERIOUS INJURIES AND
WE SEEN IN A WHILE AND SO,
WHILE I THINK SEATTLE THE DATA
SHOWS IS ONE OF THE SAFEST
CITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS NOT JUST
FOR THE UNITED STATES BUT
FRANKLY IN THE WORLD, WERE
STILL NOT AS SAFE AS WE WANT TO
BE AND WE HAVE WORK TO DO
THERE.
THE SAFETY BOARD, THE SCHOOL
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HAS
BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE OVER TIME
FOR SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS ME
WILL MAKE AND IT'S COMPLEX
BECAUSE WE WORK IN THE SPACE
BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT WHICH IS A DIFFERENT
ENTITY AND SO THERE'S ALSO BEEN
LONGTIME GOOD PARTNERSHIP
THERE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE
ABOUT TO START OUR BUDGET
PROJECT AND I'M INTERESTED IN
FINDING WAYS AND FOR BROADER
VISION ZERO SET OF INVESTMENTS
AND FOR THE SCHOOL SAFETY WHICH
I CONSIDER A PIECE OF VISION
ZERO WORK. DO YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS FOR ME? BEFORE YOU GO
FORWARD?
>> I DO NOT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH .
>> I MOVE FOR AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER ONE THIS IS AWKWARD FOR
ME AS THE ONLY ONE IN THE
MEETING, I GET TO SECOND IT
ALSO AND VOTE YES, I WANT TO
ASK FOR NOSE BECAUSE THAT IS
OBVIOUS, IT WILL MOVED TO THE
FULL COUNCIL ON THE 23rd FOR
APPROVAL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS
TO SERVE AND I JUST URGE YOU
THAT AS YOU GET INTO THE WORK
THE COUNCIL, MYSELF FOR THE
NEXT FEW MONTHS REALLY RELIES
ON THE EXPERTISE THAT YOU AND
OTHERS BRING WHEN YOU SERVED ON
THE COMMITTEE AND I JUST URGE
YOU TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD
WHEN YOU SEE THAT WE ARE NOT
MOVING FAST ENOUGH OR NEED TO
GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION OR
YOUR FOLLOWING A POLICY THAT
YOU THINK IS MISGUIDED FROM THE
EXPERTISE THAT YOU HAVE, SO WE
INVITE THAT FEEDBACK .
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH .
>> KELLY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
READ THE NEXT TWO IN?
>> APPOINTMENT 01419 THE
REAPPOINTMENT OF NICK PARANJPYE
TO THE LEVY TO MOVE SEATTLE
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR A TERM
THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2023 AND
APPOINTMENT 01418,
REAPPOINTMENT OF INGA MANSKOPF
AS A MEMBER TO THE LEVY TO MOVE
SEATTLE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR
A TERM TO DECEMBER 31, 2023 .
>> GREAT, WHEN WE START WITH
INTRODUCTION .
>> I'M BRIAN SPERRY, THE
PROGRAM MANAGER IN SEATTLE AT
SDOT AND I'M HERE TODAY
REPRESENTING RACHEL McCAFFREY
WHO IS OUT SICK.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU DON'T
LOOK LIKE RACHEL EXPECT SHE HAS
LONGER HAIR.
>> ANYWAYS, TODAY WE ARE
PRESENTING THE REAPPOINTMENT OF
INGA MANSKOPF AND NICK
PARANJPYE TO THE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE.
>> THE REAPPOINTMENTS ARE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CHECK
BACK INTO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH
OF THEM WERE INTERESTED IN AND
THEY'RE NOT BEING BROUGHT
FORWARD AGAINST THEIR WILL AND
OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALSO A CHANCE
FOR THE COUNCIL OR THE MAYOR TO
RECONSIDER IF IT'S AN
APPROPRIATE FIT THE FACT THAT
THEY WERE HERE ENJOYED WORKING
WITH THEM AND APPRECIATE THEIR
COMMITMENT TO WHAT'S BEEN
FRANKLY THE LAST COUPLE YEARS
QUITE A HEAVY LIFT WITH A LOT
OF WORK DONE ON THE COMMITTEE
BUT ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD
KNOW BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. I
WILL MOVE BOTH OF THESE ITEMS
FOR NICK PARANJPYE AND INGA
MANSKOPF AND I WILL SECOND THAT
AND THEY WILL COME OUT OF
COMMITTEE WITH A VOTE OF YES
AND BE AT THE FULL COUNCIL ON
MONDAY .
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK .
>> THANKS A LOT.
IT'S GOOD TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
FOUR
>> APPOINTMENT 01420
REAPPOINTMENT OF CHRISTINA WONG
AS IT THE MEMBER OF THE
SWEETENED BEVERAGE TAX
COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD FOR A
TERM TO AUGUST 31, 2023 .
>> WILL START WITH INTRODUCTION
EXPECT MY NAME IS BRIDGET IGOE
AND I AM FROM THE OFFICE OF
SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENT
AND I AM ON THE SWEETENED
BEVERAGE TAX COMMUNITY ADVISORY
BOARD AND WE REVIEW THE ROLE
AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT
CHRISTINA WONG AND HER
REAPPOINTMENT.
THIS WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE
SAME ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THE
BEVERAGE TAX AND THE ROLE OF
THE BOARD IS TO DEVELOP
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MAYOR
AND CITY COUNCIL ON PROGRAMS
AND SERVICES TO SUPPORT THE
BEVERAGE TAX REVENUE AND THAT
ALIGN WITH THE ORDINANCE.
SO, THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT
REVENUE SHALL BE USED FOR
HEALTHY FOOD ACCESS PROGRAMS
AND PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT
IMPROVE CHILD HEALTH
DEVELOPMENT AND READINESS FOR
SCHOOL.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PRIMARY
INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO
BENEFIT COMMUNITIES THAT
EXPERIENCED THE GREATEST HEALTH
AND EDUCATION IN EQUITIES.
SO TODAY I'M HERE ARE THE
REAPPOINTMENT HEARING FOR
CHRISTINA WONG FOR POSITION
NUMBER SIX, A PUBLIC HEALTH
SEE.
CHRISTINA HAS SERVED SINCE IT
WAS FIRST CONVENED AND WAS
VOTED TO SERVE AS ONE OF THE
FIRST COCHAIRS. SHE IS A PUBLIC
POLICY AND ADVOCACY DIRECTOR
FOR NORTHWEST HARBOR NONPROFIT
FOOD BANK DISTRIBUTOR THAT
OPERATES A STATEWIDE.
IN HER ROLE SHE PROVIDES
INFORMATION AND UPDATES ON FOOD
AND NUTRITION ISSUES AND
EDUCATE STATE AND FEDERAL
LAWMAKERS ABOUT THE NEEDS OF
FOOD BANK CLIENTS IN ORDER TO
STRENGTHEN AND RESTORE PUBLIC
SAFETY SERVE WORKING WITH
SURVIVORS OF INTERPERSONAL
VIOLENCE, COMPREHENSIVE
IMMIGRATION REFORM AND CHILD
WELFARE.
HE STUDIED SOCIAL WORK AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO AND IS A
GRADUATE OF THE UW SCHOOL OF
LAW.
>> CHRISTINA WONG HAS BEEN
AMAZING TO WORK WITH AND I
REALLY APPRECIATE HER EXPERTISE
AND I'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK
WITH THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY
BOARD AND THERE WAS A LOT OF
WORK AND INFORMATION COMING IN
AND THE EXPERTISE IS BEEN GREAT
AND I'M EXCITED THAT CHRISTINE
IS WILLING TO SERVE ANOTHER
TERM AND I'M EXCITED TO APPOINT
HER .
>> THANK YOU WHEREVER YOU ARE,
YOU HAVE A BUSY SCHEDULE BUT I
WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, APPOINTMENT
1420 I WILL SECOND AND VOTE YES
ON THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE
BOARD.
>> ALL RIGHT, AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER FIVE .
>> COUNSEL BILL 119640 AND
ORDINANCE RELATING TO
PROHIBITING NATURAL GAS PIPING
SYSTEMS INTO NEW BUILDINGS
ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 22.940 TO
THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE .
>> GREAT, LET'S START WITH
INTRODUCTIONS, YOLANDA .
>> YOLANDA COUNSEL CENTRAL
STAFF .
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE TODAY, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF
PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING AND
I WILL JUST REPEAT BRIEFLY FOR
FOLKS WHO ARE JUST CHIMING IN
AND MISSED EARLIER COMMENTS BUT
ORIGINALLY, I HOPE TO BE VOTING
ON LEGISLATION TODAY THAT WE
ARE NOT DOING THAT TODAY. WE'VE
HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM
COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WILL BE
IMPACTED BY THE LEGISLATION AND
I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO TAKE THE
TIME TO HAVE MEANINGFUL
CONVERSATION WITH COMMUNITY
MEMBERS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND
THE CONCERNS AND HOW DO WE MOVE
FORWARD MEETING A MIX OF GOALS
WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
AND THEN, BUILD A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION AROUND THE. I DON'T
WANT TO PRETEND THAT THIS WILL
NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL BUT THERE
IS MORE WORK TO BE DONE TO GET
TO A PLACE WHERE BASICALLY I
CAN BE BETTER INFORMED WITH
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND
ALSO, HOPEFULLY ADDRESS SOME OF
THE COMMITTEE CONCERNS,
RECOGNIZING THAT THE CHALLENGES
AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE WILL
FORCE BUSINESSES WE MAKE
TRANSITIONS ON HOW TO DO THAT
AND ADJUST IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
THERE IS A HANDFUL OF NEW
POINTS THAT YOU MADE SO COULD
YOU WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE
OVERARCHING STUFF AND MORE
SPECIFICALLY, SOME OF THE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE'VE
GAINED IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO?
>> YES, SO, MY MEMO KIND OF
STARTED OUT WITH SOME OF THE
BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WE
DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF SINGLE-
FAMILY HOMES AND OUR
UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR SOURCE
OF ELECTRIC HEAT AND TRENDS AND
POTENTIALLY MORE HOMES BEING
BUILT WITH ELECTRIC HEAT OVER
TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO WRITE EVERYONE
WITH THAT DATA AND
UNDERSTANDING ALSO WHERE THE
BUILDING GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS ARE COMING FROM TO AS
BEFORE STATING THAT 71% OF
BUILDING OMISSIONS FROM
GREENHOUSE GAS ARE FROM NATURAL
GAS FROM BUILDINGS AND ALSO IN
EXHIBIT 3 AND IN THE MEMO THAT
SHOWED 14% OF GAS EMISSIONS ARE
PRODUCED BY STEAM WHICH IS KIND
OF THE INDIRECT SOURCE SO
NATURAL GAS IS INVOLVED BECAUSE
IT'S A DISTRICT ENERGY SYSTEM,
BUT THAT THERE IS STILL NATURAL
GAS INVOLVED BUT THEY ARE MORE
EFFICIENT SYSTEMS VERSUS EACH
BUILDING HAVING ITS OWN BOILER,
BUT THERE IS STILL GREENHOUSE
AS EMISSIONS INVOLVED IN THOSE
TYPES OF SYSTEMS, SO JUST KIND
OF CONSIDERING THE WORLD OF
NATURAL GAS IN THOSE SYSTEMS AS
WELL .
>> SO ON THE STEAM, IF WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT BUT IT'S NOT
CALLED SEATTLE STEAM BUT I'M
BLANKING ON THE NAME OF THE NEW
COMPANY .
>> THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BOTH A
STEAM BOILER AND A WOOD WASTE
BOILER COULD YOU HAVE TO
COLLECT DATA?
>> BUT BASED ON THE 2016
GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY REPORT
, IT LOOKED LIKE THEY NO LONGER
USING THAT BIOMASS BOILER
SYSTEMS SO THERE WAS ACTUALLY
AN UP TICK AND OMISSIONS
BETWEEN 2014 AND 2016 BASED ON
THAT I BELIEVE SO THAT IS, I'M
NOT SURE WHAT THE REASONS ARE
FOR THAT THAT IS WHAT MY
UNDERSTANDING WAS .
>> OIL ORWELL, ELECTRIC SHOWS
APPEAR WE HAVE ELECTRIC UTILITY
BUT IS STILL SHOWING UP AS 9%
OF OMISSIONS, CAN YOU SPEAK TO
THAT AT ALL?
>> EVEN THOUGH 90% OF
ELECTRICITY AT CITY LIGHT FROM
CONSUMERS COMES FROM LOW CARBON
HYDROELECTRIC DAMS, CITY LIGHT
THEN, SO, IT'S NOT ZERO RIGHT
SO THERE ARE SOME OMISSIONS IN
THE OPERATIONS THAT SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT HAD SPECIFICALLY.
EMPLOYEES TRAVEL.
THE USE OF TRUCKS AND OTHER
EQUIPMENT AND OPERATIONS.
PURCHASES OF POWER FROM OTHER
UTILITIES.
THIS CAN ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND SO
THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE
TOTALITY OF THE OPERATIONS AND
THAT IS WHERE THE 9 PERCENT
COMES FROM.
THAT IS TO CLARIFY, THERE ARE
NUMBER OF EXHIBITS IN THE MEMO
BUT THE 9 PERCENT IS FOR ALL
THE BUILDINGS IN SEATTLE SO I'M
ASSUMING ALL THE BUILDINGS HAVE
ELECTRICITY .
>> GOOD POINT EXPECT THAT IS
VERSUS JUST THE SUBSET THAT'S
HOOKED UP TO NATURAL GAS .
>> EXACTLY .
>> OKAY.
AND THEN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT THIS DATA IS FROM 2016, IS
THAT CORRECT?
YES THIS IS FROM THE GREENHOUSE
GAS INVENTORY JUST PUBLISHED
THIS YEAR, THERE'S A LITTLE LAG
TIME BETWEEN THE DATA AND THE
PUBLICATION DUE TO THE
INTENSITY OF THE ANALYSIS
REQUIRED .
>> I ASKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 9%
.
>> IT'S A MIX OF THINGS WE HAVE
TO PROVIDE OFFSETS .
>> THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT IN
TIME AND IN ANOTHER YEAR WE MAY
SEE A DROP IN THAT .
>> AND ALSO I'M STILL TRACKING
DOWN SOME, WE HAVE THE ENERGY
BENCHMARKING PROGRAM AND THERE
ARE 20,000 SQUARE FEET AND
GRADERS ARE LOOKING AT THAT TO
SEE WHAT THE MIX IS I STILL
HAVEN'T TRIED TO DETERMINE THE
MIX OF THOSE THAT HAVE NATURAL
GAS VERSUS ELECTRIC TO GET A
SENSE OF THOSE TYPES OF
BUILDINGS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW
WE'VE ONLY LOOKED AT SINGLE-
FAMILY HOUSES .
>> IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL
IMPACTS OF THE OFFICE OF
SUSTAINABILITY ENVIRONMENT
úPROVIDED AN ANALYSIS OF THE
IMPACT OF THE LEGISLATION ON
SEATTLE'S GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS AND THEY HAVE MODEL
THAT KIND OF LOOKS ONLY AT
HEATING, SO THIS IS NOT THE
TOTALITY OF ALL OF THE THINGS,
SO IF AN ALL ELECTRIC BUILDING,
IT'S NOT -- THIS MIGHT BE
SLIGHTLY UNDERESTIMATING THE
DECREASE IN THE EMISSIONS OF
GREENHOUSE GAS BECAUSE IT'S NOT
REALLY ACCOUNTING FOR ALL
ELECTRIC
LEGISLATION WOULD HAVE AND THEN
ALSO THE BROADER WORK TO BE
DONE IF WE ARE GONNA TRANSITION
OFF OF FOSSIL FUELS COMPLETELY,
THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT A
MUCH LARGER UNIVERSE TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE
AND THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL .
>> AND YOU GO BACK TO THE CITY
LIGHT QUESTION ABOUT
ELECTRICITY GENERATION AND TELL
ME MORE ABOUT WHETHER WE HAVE
MORE SPECIFICS?
>> YES .
>> IT WASN'T VERY SPECIFIC, I
PRETTY MUCH CAPTURED THE
RESPONSE TO MY INQUIRY.
SO, THEY FELT VERY CONFIDENT
ABOUT THEIR GENERATION
RESOURCES.
THERE WERE TWO PARTS TO ENERGY,
THE ACTUAL MAKING AND
GENERATING OF ELECTRICITY .
>> THE HYDRO DAM .
>> THEN THERE WAS GETTING IT TO
YOUR HOUSE AND THAT'S THE PART
THEY ACKNOWLEDGED AND TO SAFELY
DISTRIBUTE THE LOAD BASED ON
EXTRA DEMAND, THAT IS WHAT THEY
WOULD NEED TO STUDY A BIT MORE
BUT THAT WAS NOT MY
UNDERSTANDING WAS .
>> WE NEED TO GET MORE
INFORMATION, IT'S ANOTHER FAIR
QUESTION THAT FOLKS HAVE ASKED
AND MY SENSE AND PAST
EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH CITY
LIGHT OR THEY ARE ALWAYS DOING
ONGOING WORK TO UPGRADE THE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND IT'S A
BLOCK BY BLOCK BASIS AND IN
SOME PLACES YOU MIGHT TEAR DOWN
A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND PUT
FOUR TOWNHOMES AND THAT MIGHT
BE THE THING THAT TRIGGERS
ADDITIONAL CAPACITY SO WE COULD
GET A SENSE OF HOW MUCH THIS
WOULD SHIFT TO THE BASELINE
AMOUNT OF GRADING THE CITY,
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHAT JOBS
WILL BE PART OF THE EQUATION AND
WHO BEARS THE COST .
>> GREAT, YOLANDA, YOU'VE DONE
A HURT KILLIAN EFFORT SO FAR
AND UNFORTUNATELY YOUR WORK IS
NOT OVER AND I KNOW YOU'RE
GOING INTO BUDGET SO THE
ABILITY TO TAP INTO YOU WAS
GONNA BE LIMITED THAT I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR WORK TODAY AND
WE WILL PROBABLY PICK ON YOU
WHERE POSSIBLE TO HELP US AS WE
ENGAGE WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN THE
COMING DAYS AND WEEKS .
>> GREAT, I THINK THAT IS ALL I
HAVE FOR THIS ITEM TODAY, THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE .
>> I WILL BE HERE FOR TWO MORE
ITEMS .
>> KELLY LET'S READ THE NEXT
ONE AND AND WOULD YOU BRING THE
SHORT VERSION IN, KELLY?
>> COUNSEL BILL 119607, AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO HEATING
OIL .
>> PRESENTERS COME FORWARD .
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST TO
KEEP ME COMPANY APPEAR .
>> LET'S DO A QUICK ROUND OF
INTRODUCTIONS, THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE .
>> SO, WE WILL START WITH YOU
AGAIN .
>> YOLANDA .
>> CHRISTINE .
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING
HERE.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK
YOU'VE DONE TO DATE YOU'VE HEARD
A SERIES OF CONCERNS IN AN
ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THOSE AND I
HAVE A FEW AMENDMENTS I WANT TO
BRING FORWARD TODAY THE LET ME
CLEAR THE AMENDMENTS I'M
BRINGING FORWARD THAT WE WILL
GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO
WEIGH IN ON ANY OF THOSE
THOUGHTS, SO YOLANDA AND MIGHT
RELY ON YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF
THERE'S AN OVERVIEW THEY WANT
TO SAY ABOUT THIS .
>> NO, I MEAN I THINK THIS IS
JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT THIS
WOULD BE, IT'S LEGISLATION THAT
WOULD IMPOSE A 20 3.6 ¢ EACH
GALLON OF HEATING OIL BEGINNING
ON JULY 1 AND THE PROCEEDS
WOULD BE USED FOR COVERING THE
COST TO CONVERT FROM AN OIL
HEATING SYSTEM, REIMBURSING LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS THE FOR THAT
OFFSET AND TO EXPAND THE
EXISTING REBATE PROGRAM
AVAILABLE TO ALL HOUSEHOLDS
THAT SUPPORT CONVERSION AND TO
SUPPORT CONVERSION AND PROVIDE
EDUCATION OUTREACH REGARDING
THE TAX AND PROVIDING PROGRAM
ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT AND
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT
TO 45 OIL SERVICE PROVIDERS
WITH THE GOAL OF TRANSITIONING
TO A CLEAN HEATING SALES
INSTALLATION, A QUICK SUMMARY
THERE.
SO IN TERMS OF OUR AMENDMENT,
WE HAVE KIND OF A SUBSTITUTE
VERSION OF THE BILL TO CONSIDER
THAT INCORPORATES A COUPLE OF
THEM AND AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
CONTINUED FROM LAST WEEK BUT
ALSO ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS.
>> IF ANYONE DOESN'T HAVE ONE
WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENT COPY
THERE MAY BE TYPOGRAPHICAL
ERRORS .
>> THERE'S AN URGENT NEED TO
ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE
ADOPTION OF THE GREEN YOU DEAL
FOR SEATTLE AND THE NEED TO
ENSURE JUST TRANSITION FOR
WORKERS WHOSE JOBS DEPEND ON
HEATING OIL AND THIS CHANGES
THE HEATING OIL TAX FUND TO AN
ACCOUNT TO EASE INTERNAL
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AND
EXPAND ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
TO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND
CONVERT FROM A OIL HEATING
SYSTEM AND NOW YOU SUPPORT
CONVERSIONS FOR HOUSEHOLD
BEYOND ESTATE MEDIUM THRESHOLD
OF A UTILITY THRESHOLD UP TO
THE 80% MEDIAN INCOME STILL
GETTING PART OF THE HOUSEHOLDS
PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM
AND REQUEST A COPY OF THE
PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE
MANDATE THAT ALL HEATING OIL
STORAGE TANKS BE DECOMMISSIONED
OR REPLACED WITH A MODERN TANK
BY DECEMBER 21 AND 2828 BE
SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK AND
COUNCIL AND REQUEST THE OFFICE
OF SUSTAINABILITY ENVIRONMENT
PROVIDE A STATUS UPDATE ON
OUTREACH EFFORTS RELATED TO
HEATING OIL AND THE NEW HEATING
OIL TAX INCLUDING A DESCRIPTION
OF ANY CHALLENGES ENCOUNTERED
DURING THE OUTREACH AND
PROPOSED STRATEGIES.
ANSWER REPORT ANNUALLY ON
PROGRAM STATUS AND COLLABORATE
WITH THE SEATTLE CONSTRUCTION
DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND
INSPECTIONS AND LOW INCOME
RENTERS OF OIL HEATED HOMES AND
PROVIDE A REPORT TO COUNCIL ON
JULY 1, 2021 AND WE INVITE
OTHER COMMENTS YOU FEEL LIKE
COMMENTING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD
FROM OIL HEAT COMPANIES AND
WORKERS IN THE OIL HEATING WERE
OBVIOUSLY CONCERNS ABOUT SINCE
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
BUSINESS AND WORKERS AND AS
I'VE STATED BEFORE, I BELIEVE
THAT FOR THE MOST PART THAT
CERTAINLY PETROLEUM-BASED HE WE
CAN ARGUE ABOUT WHAT RELATIVE
MEANS WE HAVE A PLAN TO DO THAT
LARGELY BY 2028 WHICH I SUPPORT
AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL HAVE
IMPACTS ON FOLKS AND THE GOAL
HERE IS NOT NECESSARILY DO THIS
AND FIGURE OUT WE MANAGE THE
IMPACT IN A WAY THAT'S
REASONABLE.
FOR BUSINESSES, A LOT OF THESE
BUSINESSES HAVE ALREADY DONE
CERTAIN THINGS TO ADAPT TO THE
REALITY BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING
BETWEEN ONE AND 2000 PEOPLE A
YEAR AND THIS IS BEEN ONGOING
REALITY FOR THE INDUSTRY WITH A
FAIR AMOUNT OF CONSOLIDATION
AND WE ALSO SEE DIVERSIFICATION
AND THOSE WITH TO BE CLEAR,
THESE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN HERE
TESTIFYING WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
WHAT THE IMPACT IS BECAUSE OF
THE ABILITY TO GET ROBUST DATA
FROM THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE
NOT REGULATED IN A WAY WHERE WE
KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY EMPLOYEES
THEY HAVE AND HOW MANY OF THEM
ARE WORKING IN SEATTLE IN
ANOTHER JURISDICTION AND WHAT
THAT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE
REQUEST HERE IS WE WANT TO MOVE
FORWARD BUT WE WANT TO BE AS
SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE TO
ADAPTING AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT
THAT. AGAIN THE GOAL IS NOT TO
KEEP USING THE SAME MEETING
SOURCE THAT'S CAUSING PART OF
OUR CLIMATE POLLUTION PROBLEM
BUT RATHER UNDERSTAND WHAT
WORKERS ARE IMPACTED, MAKE SURE
WE HAVE TOOLS AVAILABLE FOR
OTHER RETRAINING AND CAREER
OPPORTUNITIES IN UNDERSTANDING
THE MAGNITUDE OF THE CHALLENGE
THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT.
POLICY EXPERTS ARE NOT
NECESSARILY OUT THERE WITH
EMPLOYMENT DATA INCLUDING OTHER
DEPARTMENTS TO HELP WITH THAT
GOING FORWARD.
AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT AS WE GO
FORWARD WE CAN GATHER DATA AND
MAYBE THERE IS AN ACTUAL
TRANSITION THAT HAPPENS AND
NORMAL ATTRITION WILL WORK IN A
WAY THAT FOLKS WON'T FEEL GREAT
IMPACTS AND A COUPLE PROVIDERS
WILL SHUT DOWN AND WE WILL HAVE
A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO MANAGE
THAT ALSO.
SO, ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON
THAT?
>> I JUST SAY THAT WE VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF THE
AMENDMENT AND THE INTENT OF THE
WORK.
WE ALSO WERE COMMITTED AS
DISCUSSED AND THE BODY IS BEEN
DISCUSSING THE GREEN NEW DEAL
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS AND
MONTHS, COMMITTED TO THE
PRINCIPLE THAT THOSE ON THE
FRONT LINES OF CLIMATE CHANGE
AND IN ALL FORMS SHOULD BE PART
OF DEVELOPING THE SOLUTIONS,
CERTAINLY HERE WE SEE THAT AS
WORKERS WHO ARE ON THE
FRONTLINE OF SOME OF THE WORK,
SO FROM OSC WE ARE CERTAINLY
COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO
ENGAGE THE WORKERS TO DO MORE
WORK TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE AND PART
OF THAT IS UNDERSTANDING AND
HAVING SOME OF THE DATA TO
UNDERSTAND TRENDS THAT THE
INDUSTRY HAS SEEN IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS AND TRENDS THAT WE
MIGHT SEE GOING FORWARD. SO, I
CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE KNOW
EXACTLY HOW TO APPROACH OSC
RIGHT NOW BUT WE ARE COMMITTED
TO PARTNERING WITH THOSE WHO DO
TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE FULL
PICTURE BETTER .
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. ANOTHER
PIECE OF THAT SECTION OF THE
AMENDMENT TALKS ABOUT
UNDERSTANDING HOW HOMES ARE
HEATED AND SPECIFICALLY THE
PEOPLE THAT USE OIL HEAT AND
THE IMPACT ON THEM.
I THINK A GREAT JOB TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE OF FOLK
ABOUT 18,000 FOLKS ON OIL HEAT
AND A LITTLE OVER 1000 THAT WE
THINK ARE BASED ON INCOME
LEVELS AND QUALIFY FOR THE
PROGRAM ESSENTIALLY A COST RE-
TRANSITION FUNDED BY THE TAX.
SO, THAT PROGRAM IS EXTREMELY
ROBUST AND I THINK IT'S GREAT
AND TOTALLY APPROPRIATE TO DO
FOR THE LOWEST INCOME FOLKS.
WE'VE HEARD FROM A FEW
HOMEOWNERS NOW CANNOT ATTEND
BUT THEY'VE EXPRESSED CONCERN
ABOUT BEING ABOVE THE THRESHOLD
AND IS STILL STRUGGLING AND
WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF WORKERS AND
HOMEOWNERS HAVE BEEN IMPACTED
BUT IT'S LEGITIMATE TO RAISE
QUESTIONS, WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMERS
THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE DEEP
DISCOUNT BUT WILL STILL
STRUGGLE TO MAKE THE TRANSITION
WITHOUT ASSISTANCE.
THERE'S A COUPLE PATH AND ONE
IS IN THE NEAR-TERM NOT
REQUIRING PEOPLE TO TRANSITION
AND IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A FEW
YEARS TO FIGURE THIS OUT THEY
WILL BE WIRED TO PAY THE TAX WE
WILL TALK ABOUT BIOFUELS IN A
SECOND, THERE'S KIND OF A
DIFFERENT PATH THERE IF THEY
CHOOSE THAT ROUTE AND THE COST
OF THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER, THE
TAX .
>> $120 PER YEAR .
>> THAT'S BASED ON ABOUT 500
GALLONS PER YEAR.
>> WE WANTED TO CLEAR REAL MONEY
TO FOLKS LIVING ON A FIXED
INCOME, THAT WILL BE AN IMPACT
BUT, IT DOES ALLOW FLEXIBILITY
TO MOVE FORWARD BUT FROM THE
ULTIMATE GOAL THAT BY 2028 AND
THE SENSE OF THE ANALYSIS OF
THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OF THE
FUEL WITH OIL VERSUS FUEL FOR
ELECTRICITY IS ABOUT TWICE AS
MUCH COST TWICE AS MUCH TO
HEATING OIL HOME IS IT THERE IS
FRONT ELECTRIC, THERE'S A
SIGNIFICANT COST DIFFERENCE FOR
OIL HEAT.
IF WE COULD GET THEM TO
ELECTRIC HEAT WE CAN SAVE THEM
ONGOING MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS A
COST TO TO THE TRANSITION SO
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THE
SUBSIDY PROGRAM ABOVE THE
FUNCTIONAL UTILITY PROGRAM AND
IT MAKES A SENSE SINCE THERE'S
A STRONG WILLINGNESS AND WE
NEED TO FIND THE RESOURCES MAY
BE THEY SPEAK AGAIN TO WHAT
RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO
FOLKS ABOVE THE LEVEL .
>> I THINK THE INTENT WITH THE
UP TO 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN
INCOME IS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
THE OFFICE OF HOUSING INCOME
ARMAMENTS.
SO, THE THOUGHT THERE IS THAT
IF THOSE FOLKS DID SOME TAX
REVENUE WE COULD GET THEM TO
ELECTRIFY, MEANING GET TO THE
BASELINE ELECTRIC SYSTEM WHICH
IS LIKE A BASEBOARD HEATING
SYSTEM WHICH IS A FORCED AIR
FURNACE WHICH WE CAN LEAN ON
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IN
SUPPORTING THE SEATTLE ENERGY
UPGRADE TO A HEAT PUMP OR OTHER
SOURCES CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO
THE OFFICE OF HOUSING PROGRAMS.
SO, WE WOULD NEED TO KIND OF
MANAGE THE RESOURCES AND
COLLABORATE WITH THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING ON HOW TO BEST SUPPORT
THE ADDITIONAL GROUP OF
RESIDENTS .
>> RIGHT.
AND, THE AMENDMENT HERE IS
INTENDED TO GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO
DO THAT AND OBVIOUSLY FOR THE
ROBUST PROGRAM WE ALL WANT
WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT
ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND NOT
PREPARED TO DO THAT TODAY BUT
AS WE MONITOR THIS THIS IS AN
AREA WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT.
WITH PRIORITY FOR THE LONGEST
INTEREST FOLKS BUT ANYONE THAT
QUALIFIES IN THERE, IT MAY BE
THAT IN CERTAIN YEARS THERE IS
NONE TON OF PEOPLE LOOKING TO
UPGRADE SO WE HAVE MORE
CAPACITY THAN OTHER YEARS AND
IT MIGHT BE MORE COMPETITIVE .
>> I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY
AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL,
WE DON'T WANT TO BE PIGEONHOLED
TO A SPECIFIC INCOME
ELIGIBILITY THRESHOLD KNOWINGLY
MAY BE ABLE TO GO BEYOND THAT
AND NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
REVENUE WILL START COMING
THROUGH, WE MAY ACTUALLY SEE AN
EXCESS OF REVENUE THAN WHAT WE
ANTICIPATED SO, HAVING THE
FLEXIBILITY WILL BE GREAT .
>> THE GOAL, WE CERTAINLY SURE
THE GOALS AND WANTING TO ASSIST
AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE WITH
THE TRANSITION.
WE KNOW RIGHT NOW AS YOU SAID,
OVER 1000 PEOPLE PER YEAR ARE
CHOOSING TO CONVERT OFF OIL
HEAT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
IT'S NOT JUST THE WEALTHY WHO
ARE ABLE TO DO THAT BUT
EVERYBODY THAT IS ABLE TO MOVE
TO A CLEANER AND MORE EFFICIENT
MORE COST-EFFECTIVE HEATING
SYSTEM .
>> DEPENDING ON IF THEY CONVERT
TO A HEAT PUMP PRODUCT THAT WE
KNOW THAT PROVIDES WE ARE CLEAR
IT'S BOTH THE COMFORT REALITY
IS THE CITY GETS WARMER IN THE
SUMMER IN A PUBLIC HEALTH
REALITY AND SOME OF THE MOST
VULNERABLE RESIDENTS AND
SENIORS ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO
PROBLEMS WHEN TEMPERATURES GET
HOT AND AND THE OTHER THING I
SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT IS
RENTERS.
THE VAST MAJORITY, OIL HEAT
HOMES ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY RENTERS
AND I THINK THAT'S RIGHT BUT
MAYBE I'M WRONG .
>> 2% OF OIL HEATED HOMES ARE
RENTERS, IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY
SMALL PERCENTAGE .
>> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I
WOULD WANT TO TRACK BECAUSE
IT'S AN AREA WE HAVE A SPLIT
INCENTIVE WHERE, DEPENDING ON
THE LEASE, THE LANDLORD MAY BE
PASSING ON THE COST OF OIL
HEAT.
MANY RESPONSIBLE TENANTS FOR
JUST OIL AND IN THIS CASE THEY
ARE PAYING THE TAX AND WHILE IT
MAY BE MORE COST-EFFECTIVE FOR
THEM TO CONVERT SO THEY COULD
HAVE SAVINGS, THE CONVERSION IS
GOING TO BE DONE BY THE
LANDLORD AND THE LANDLORD MAY
DECIDE THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO
MAKE THAT INVESTMENT AND IT'S A
GOOD INCENTIVE AND CAN BE
PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING.
WE KNOW IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME
WE'VE DEALT WITH A SPLIT
INCENTIVE IN RENTAL PROPERTIES
WHERE THERE IS ENERGY
EFFICIENCY OR DIFFERENT HEATING
SOURCES OR RENEWABLE SOURCES.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A
SPECIFIC STRATEGY TO IDENTIFY
THAT IF IN FACT ONLY TALKING
ABOUT A SMALL HANDFUL OF FOLKS,
THEN MAYBE WE COULD ACTUALLY DO
OUR BEST TO TARGET THEM TO FIND
OUT IF IT'S A SLIGHTLY LARGER
NUMBER TO SEE IF THERE ARE
PROGRAMS OR WE COULD FIGURE OUT
WHERE THEY ARE AND IT'S A
LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE
WE DON'T WANT TO SUBSIDIZE A
LANDLORD TO MAKE THE TRANSITION
WITHOUT COMMITMENTS THAT THE
TENANT OR ANOTHER LOW-INCOME
TENANT COULD STAY THERE FOR A
LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
THE HOUSING IS DONE GOOD WORK
ON SYSTEMS LIKE THAT .
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IN
TERMS OF STRATEGIES FOR LOW-
INCOME RENTERS, WE WANT TO WORK
MOSTLY WITH THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING IN THE EXISTING
PROTOCOL WHICH IS WE WOULD
OFFER PEOPLE TO THE LANDLORD
AND MAKE SURE THEY WOULD ENSURE
THAT THE AFFORDABLE RENT IS
INTACT AND THAT THEY DON'T JUST
JACK UP THE PRICES .
>> THAT WOULD BE A VOLUNTARY
PROGRAM AND IT'S PART OF A
VOLUNTARY PROGRAM TO STIPULATE
THAT WHEN IT COMES TO RENTS .
>> OKAY, WERE THERE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS THAT YOU WANTED AND I
ACTUALLY I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND
MOVE THIS, SO WILL THE
SUBSTITUTE VERSION FOR D2 FOR
D1 AND I WILL SECOND THAT IN
VOTE YES ON IT. DID YOU WANT TO
SPEAK? THE ONES HE IS THE
OFFICIAL.
>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT
.
>> SO THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE A
BIODIESEL EXEMPTION AND THIS
WOULD AMEND THE COUNSEL BILL TO
EXAMINE BIODIESEL FROM THE
HEATING OIL TAX AND ADD A
RELATED RECITAL REGARDING THE
INTENT TO PROTECT UNIONIZED
WORKERS EMPLOYED IN THE HEATING
OIL BUSINESS, ONLY THE
BIODIESEL PORTION WOULD BE
EXEMPT WHEN THE HEATING OIL
CONTAINS A BLEND AND PETROLEUM-
BASED PRODUCTS AND THIS WILL
HAVE FISCAL IMPACT IN TERMS OF
DECREASING POTENTIAL REVENUE AS
WE EXEMPT A PORTION OF HEATING
OIL WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEING
SOLD IN THE CITY SO WE DON'T
HAVE AN ESTIMATE BUT I'M JUST
MAKING A NO THAT WOULD BE AN
IMPACT OF THE AMENDMENT SO I
APPRECIATE SOME OF THE WORKERS
AND REPRESENTATIVES SPEAKING
OUT TO THIS.
I THINK THEY SEE BIODIESEL AS A
TRANSITIN FUEL IN THE EVENT
THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA CHOOSE TO
KEEP WITH AN OIL FURNACE FOR A
WHILE, PROPERLY DONE, PROPERLY
SOURCED I SHOULD SAY, BIODIESEL
DOES PROVIDE AND SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCE CARBON CLIMATE IMPACT
WITH THOSE FUELS.
IT DOES GIVE A LITTLE MORE
FLEXIBILITY TO BOTH PERHAPS
ACCELERATING CLIMATE GOALS AND
ALLOWS A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR
TRANSITION FOR WORKERS AND SO
THE LANGUAGE WOULD ADD A
RECITAL THIS IS WHERE'S
PROMOTING BIODIESEL ALLOWED FOR
BRIDGE OPTION FOR CUSTOMERS IT
HELPS TO PROTECT NEARLY 100
HIGHWAYS AND LOCAL UNION JOBS
FOR TEAMSTERS DURING 2028,
THESE ARE TWO OF THE UNIONS
WE'VE HEARD THAT REPRESENT
WORKERS IN THE FIELD.
THEN, IT WOULD REFINE THE
BIODIESEL DEFINITION,
SPECIFICALLY TO DO OUR BEST TO
REGULATE WHICH TYPES OF
BIOFUELS WE CONSIDER ACCEPTABLE
AND WHICH WE DO NOT.
SPECIFICALLY PALM OIL WE KNOW
IS A SOURCE OF BIOFUEL AND IT'S
EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC BOTH FOR
THE DISTRACTION THAT'S
HAPPENING IN COMMUNITIES AROUND
THE WORLD WORDS BEING PRODUCED,
THE LOSS OF THE FOREST THAT
OFTEN HAPPENS TO CREATE A PLACE
WHERE THEY CAN HARVESTED AND
THE FACT THAT THE FUEL, WHEN
YOU ADD ALL OF THAT UP IS NOT
PARTICULARLY SUSTAINABLE .
>> BACK ON MY UNDERSTANDING IN
SPEAKING WITH AT LEAST ONE MAJOR
BIOFUEL PRODUCER HERE IN
WASHINGTON STATE THAT THIS IS
NOT SOMETHING THAT PART OF
THEIR FEEDSTOCK IT ALSO THEY
SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY HAVE
RESULTS THAT QUALIFY AND EVEN
THE LEAST BENEFICIAL OF THE
BIOFUELS ARGUE THEY STILL HAVE
A 50% REDUCTION IN CARBON
INTENSITY. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON
THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
KNOW WHERE THE TABLE IS BUT I
THINK THIS LANGUAGE IS INTENDED
TO MIRROR THAT I KNOW WE LOOK
AT STATES IN CALIFORNIA IN THE
PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
THAT ALL HAVE, I BELIEVE CARBON
FUEL STANDARDS IN THE
REGULATORY STRUCTURE HELPS WITH
THIS, WE DON'T HAVE A LOW
CARBON FUEL STANDARD IN
WASHINGTON, WE WOULD LOVE TO
HAVE ONE AND THE MARKET IS SUCH
THAT I THINK A LOT OF THE STUFF
IS BEING PRODUCED YEAR AND A
LOT OF IT IS PRODUCED FOR THOSE
MARKETS SO WE CAN LOOK TO THOSE
STANDARDS AS A GUIDELINE .
>> ANY COMMENTS?
>> LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE WE
LAID OUT CONCERNS ABOUT USE OF
BIODIESEL AS A FUEL.
BUT, WE AS YOU EXPLAINED HAVE
HEARD FROM FOLK IN THE LABOR
COMMUNITY THAT THIS DOES FEEL
LIKE AN IMPORTANT FLEXIBILITY
MECHANISM FOR THEM IN THE
SPIRIT OF PARTNERSHIP, THEY ARE
COMFORTABLE STRETCHING ON THAT
FRONT AND APPRECIATE THIS
LANGUAGE DOES HELP TO PREVENT
THE HIGHEST CARBON BIODIESEL
AND WE THINK, AGAIN, HEARING
FROM FOLKS THAT THIS FEELS LIKE
AN IMPORTANT FLEXIBILITY
MECHANISM AND WE ARE HAPPY TO
SUPPORT IT .
>> I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY
AND I WANT TO CLEAR HOW
BIODIESEL IS USED AS A BLEND
AND THE BLEND CAN BE ANYWHERE
FROM 5% AND BE 99 IS JUST SHORT
OF 100% FOR OTHER FEDERAL TAX
CREDITS THAT I DON'T FULLY
UNDERSTAND.
BUT THIS EXEMPTION IS PRORATED
BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF
BIODIESEL CONTENT AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO TAX YOUR PETROLEUM-
BASED HEATING OIL AND 90% OF
THE OIL THAT GOES IN THE TANK
IS PETROLEUM-BASED BUT THE MORE
ROBUST OF A MIX, THE MORE OF A
DISCOUNT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
BIOFUELS ARE AT A PREMIUM IT'S
ABOUT ONE DOLLAR PER GALLON MORE
.
>> IT CAN RANGE ON A NUMBER OF
FACTORS INCLUDING THE MARKETS
AND THE SUPPLY OF THE RANGE IS
TYPICALLY BETWEEN $.50 TO ONE
DOLLAR, DEPENDING ON THE BLEND
.
>> SO, BECAUSE WE WILL BE
TAXING THE PETROLEUM PRODUCT
THIS WILL ESSENTIALLY CREATE
ALMOST A $.25 REDUCE THE
DIFFERENTIAL BY $.25 AND SO
THERE MIGHT BE FOLKS OUT THERE
BUT IT CHOSE NOT TO GO BECAUSE
OF THE PRICE DIFFERENTIAL I
DON'T BELIEVE THE LONG-TERM
HEATING HOMES BUT FROM WHERE I
SIT NOW IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR
AND WE WANT TO TRANSFER TO
THESE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM BUT THE
QUESTION IS HOW DO WE MAKE THE
TRANSITIONS AND WE URGE FOLKS
WHO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
REPLACE SOMETHING I HOPE IT
WOULD DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO
TRANSITION TO ELECTRIC NOW
BECAUSE THAT'S THE DIRECTION
THEY WANT TO GO.
I BELIEVE BIOFUELS WILL BE PART
OF THE ENERGY SOLUTION, I JUST
DON'T THINK THE HIGHEST AND
BEST USE IS AT HOME AND I THINK
WE WILL SEE IT AND OTHER
PRODUCTS.
I'M LOOKING AT JESSICA BECAUSE
SHE EDUCATES ME AND ALL OF THIS
.
>> I THINK ABOUT BIOFUELS A LOT
.
>> I AGREE THEY ARE AN
IMPORTANT PART OF THE ENERGY
FUTURE.
>> BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR
FLEXIBILITY ON THIS AND
HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS AND IT'S
CRITICAL, FAMILY JOBS AND HOW
THE JOBS CONTINUE INTO THE
FUTURE, WE DON'T UNFORTUNATELY
WE DON'T LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE
WE MAGIC WE SNAP OUR FINGERS
AND OUR ENERGY NEEDS TO GO AWAY,
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO
TRANSITION AND THERE'S A LOT OF
WORK TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE NEW
SYSTEMS THAT'LL BE CLEAN IT'S
INCUMBENT UPON US COLLECTIVELY
TO ENSURE THAT THE NEW JOBS AS
WE TRANSITION OUR HIGH WAGE,
REPRESENTED JOBS FOR WORKERS
WHO CAN SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES
IN OUR SYSTEM.
WE'VE DONE GOOD WORK ON THAT
AND STUFF WE'VE DONE ON
PRIORITY HIGHER BUT THERE'S
MORE WORK TO DO HERE THAN THERE
EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I
TALK TO MY COLLEAGUES AND READ
THE AMENDMENT?
>> ALL RIGHT I WILL GO AHEAD
AND MOVE IN SECOND THE
AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS THAT
I'LL NEED TO REFER TO CALL
YOLANDA? THEN I WILL VOTE YES
ON THAT.
SO, WE HAVE BOTH SUBSTITUTED
THE BILL AND AMENDED THE BILL
WITH ANOTHER SET OF AMENDMENTS
FOR BIOFUELS AND SINCE I'M ONLY
TALKING TO MYSELF, THERE'S NO
FURTHER DISCUSSION AND I WILL
GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE
LEGISLATION AS AMENDED AND
SECOND THAT AND SEND THIS ON TO
FULL COUNCIL .
>> THE PLAN WOULD BE TO VOTE ON
THAT NEXT MONDAY ON THE 23rd WE
ARE MOVING PRETTY QUICK AS WE
GET CRUNCHED UP AGAINST BUDGET
ON THIS SO I WANT A CHANCE TO
HEAR SPECIFICALLY FROM
TEAMSTERS WE SHARE THE LANGUAGE
WITH HIM THIS MORNING BUT IT'S
POSSIBLE THERE ARE EMAILS IN
THE INBOX AND I MAKE SURE WE
CHECK IN WITH HIM TOMORROW AND
IF THERE ARE OTHER
CONSIDERATIONS WE'VE MISSED
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS ON
MONDAY, THERE'S NOTHING WE ARE
AWARE OF AT THE MOMENT I
APPRECIATE CHRISTINA, JESSICA
AND THE TEAM AND IF OTHER
THINGS COME UP I'LL BE SURE TO
SHARE WITH YOU IMMEDIATELY TO
GET YOUR FEET BACK BECAUSE YOU
ARE THE CITY'S EXPERTS ON THESE
POLICIES AND I RELY ON THE
EXPERTISE AND THOUGHTFULNESS
THERE I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
EXPERTISE ON THAT. I ALSO WANT
TO THANK THE MAYOR'S LEADERSHIP
ON THIS, I KNOW THE MAYOR CARES
IMMENSELY ABOUT CLIMATE AND IN
FACT, THE VERY FIRST TIME I SAT
DOWN WITH HER A COUPLE YEARS
AGO WHEN SHE TOOK THE JOB, SHE
SAID I OWE YOU A PARAPHRASING
COULD GET IN TROUBLE BUT I
RECALL HER SAYING THAT HER KIDS
WERE OKAY WITH HER TAKING THE
JOB AS LONG AS YOU WORKED ON
CLIMATE. I KNOW AS A PARENT
MYSELF HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS
AND I APPRECIATE HER LEADERSHIP
ON THIS AND THERE'S A LOT MORE
WORK TO DO BEYOND THE
LEGISLATION, BUT SHE'S BEEN
OUTSTANDING ON THAT AND I
APPLAUD HER FOR THAT .
>> THANK YOU .
>> WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM .
>> THE SHORT VERSION .
>> LET'S JUST DO A BLANKET
SHORT VERSION ON ALL AGENDA
ITEMS TODAY .
>> OKAY.
WE STILL GET YOLANDA, COUNSEL
119 622, AND ORDINANCE RELATING
TO PEDESTRIAN A BUSINESS ACT
DIRECTIONS IN A PUBLIC LACE .
>> YOLANDA YOU ARE DIVERSIFYING
BEYOND SUSTAINABILITY AND IT'S
GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE FOR THIS
.
>> WE WILL HAVE SOME PRESENTERS
. SO, A BIT OF A PIVOT AND
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE,
WE START WITH THE QUICK ROUND
OF INTRODUCTIONS EXPECT YOLANDA
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF .
>> ALYSE NELSON AND ELLIE
SMITH, SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION STREET USE .
>> WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY
.
>> WE DO. SO, WHY DON'T WE JUMP
RIGHT IN, DO YOU HAVE OPENING
COMMENTS OR SHOULD WE JUST JUMP
IN?
>> ALL RIGHT, TAKE IT AWAY .
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US
TODAY.
WE ARE HERE TO BRIEF YOU ON
LEGISLATION THAT WILL UPDATE
RULES FOR CAFCS AND ALIGNED
PEDESTRIAN CLEARANCE AND OTHER
PERMITTED USES A MAKE TECHNICAL
CORRECTIONS TO SECTIONS OF
TITLE 15 WHICH IS THE STREETS
AND SIDEWALKS SECTION OF THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE.
OUR PROPOSAL FOCUSES
PREDOMINANTLY ON THE CAFC
PROGRAMS AND THAT IS WHAT WE
WILL TALK ABOUT MOSTLY TODAY.
>> SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION RECENTLY UPDATED
OUR VISION MISSION AND CORE
VALUES THAT ARE UP ON THE
SCREEN.
THE PUBLIC SPACE MANAGEMENT
GROUP SEES OUR ROLE IN HELPING
WITH WITH COMMUNITIES AND
BUSINESSES THAT ARE INTERESTED
IN ACTIVATING THE PUBLIC RIGHT-
OF-WAY INCLUDING GREAT PUBLIC
SPACES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE
LIVABILITY CORE VALUE. WE THINK
THE CAFC PROGRAM IS AN
IMPORTANT COMPONENT IN ADDING
TO THE LIVABILITY OF STREETS
AND SIDEWALKS AND THE
PERMITTING PROCESS ENSURES WE
BALANCE THE BENEFITS WITH OTHER
CORE VALUES INCLUDING SAFETY
AND MOBILITY.
>> SO, TODAY WE WILL TALK ABOUT
THE PROGRAM GOALS SPECIFICALLY
FOR CAFCS OF THE PROPOSAL AND
BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND
CONTEXT WITH SPECIFIC
INFORMATION TO DIVE INTO THE
PROPOSAL.
A SUMMARY OF OUTREACH WE'VE
CONDUCTED AND PROPOSED NEXT
STEPS .
>> SEATTLE'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
SAYS THAT WE SHOULD DEVELOP A
VIBRANT CITY BY CREATING
STREETS AND SIDEWALKS THAT
GENERATE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL
ACTIVITY ADDING TO THE CITY'S
OVERALL HEALTH DISPARITY OF
WEALTH AND HAPPINESS.
WE THINK CAFCS DO JUST THAT,
THEY HELP BRING VIBRANCY AND
ACTIVATION TO THE SIDEWALKS AND
WANT TO ENSURE THERE IS
ADEQUATE SPACE FOR PEOPLE
WALKING SO THE CAFC PROGRAM
GOALS SET FORTH A PLAN TO
ENSURE SAFETY AND MOBILITY FOR
THE TRAVELING PUBLIC WHILE ALSO
ALLOWING FOR INCREASED VIBRANCY
OF STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND
PUBLIC SPACES AND HAPPY TO
SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN
BUSINESS DISTRICTS BY EXPANDING
SEATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PATRONS.
I TURN IT OVER NOW TO ALLIE WHO
WILL DIVE INTO THE DETAILS OF
THE PROPOSAL .
>> SO, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO
START WITH BACKGROUND ON THE
PROGRAM ITSELF.
BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE
AND THEY WERE CONSOLIDATED UNDER
THE SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION IN 2008. THE
PROGRAM ITSELF AND REQUIREMNTS
AROUND THAT OF NOT BEEN
SUBSTANTIALLY UPDATED SINCE
2011.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE 390
PERMITTED CAFCS ACROSS THE CITY
. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP,
THEY ARE BUT HE WILL
DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE CITY
WITH CONCENTRATIONS MOSTLY IN
THE DOWNTOWN URBAN CORE AND
ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THOSE ARE
LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN URBAN
CENTER.
IT'S A SIZABLE NUMBER IN THOSE
AREAS ALSO OUTSIDE OF URBAN
CENTERS AND VILLAGES.
WE SEE A VARIETY OF URBAN
CONTEXT ACROSS 30+ DIFFERENT
NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHAT THIS EQUALS TWO IS ABOUT
ROUGHLY 14% OF ALL FOOD SERVICE
BUSINESSES HAVE CAFC PERMITS .
>> WHAT IS THE TREND, EVERY
YEAR WE ADDING MORE AND MORE OR
ARE THESE REPLACING ONES THAT
WERE THERE BEFORE?
>> ON AVERAGE OVER THE LAST
FOUR YEARS THAT WE'VE SEEN ON
AVERAGE AROUND 27 ISSUED, IT'S
PRETTY CONSISTENT YEAR AFTER
YEAR.
A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO EITHER
NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN AND
LOOKING TO EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES
IN A NEW PLACE OR, IN THOSE
CASES WHERE PERMITS TURNOVER I
CAN GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT
MORE.
IT'S BEEN CONSISTENTLY A
POPULAR PROGRAM SINCE ITS
INCEPTION.
>> SO, SINCE IT HASN'T BEEN
UPDATED SINCE 2011 WE
INTERNALLY HAVE IDENTIFIED A
NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES TO
BETTER ALIGN THE WAY THE
PROGRAM IS OPERATED TO ACHIEVE
THE PROGRAM GOALS. SO, I WILL
GET INTO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC
PROPOSALS INCLUDED IN THE
LEGISLATION.
THIS FIRST ONE IS RELATED TO
THE FIRST PROGRAM GOAL,
ENSURING MOBILITY AND SAFETY ON
SIDEWALKS. SO, THE CITY HAS
CHANGED A LOT SINCE 2011 AND
ROUGHLY 20% OF THE INCREASE IN
POPULATION IN URBAN VILLAGES
AND CENTERS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
SITING STANDARDS ARE CODIFIED
IN TITLE 15 OF THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE, REFLECT THE
AMOUNT OF SPACE WE DEMAND ON
SIDEWALKS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND
THE TRAVELING PUBLIC MORE
BROADLY.
SO IN ADDITION TO THAT WE NEED
TO FIND WAYS TO ALIGN WHAT IS
CURRENTLY CODIFIED WITH
ADVANCES IN POLICIES AND
PROGRAMS AND IN PARTICULAR THE
PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN WHICH IN
STRATEGY 1.5 SPECIFICALLY CALLS
OUT TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN A
CLEAR ZONE ON SIDEWALKS AND
SPECIFICALLY CALLING TO STREETS
ILLUSTRATED AS AN INFORMATIVE
DOCUMENT FOR THIS THIS IS A
STREET DESIGN MANUAL AND DESIGN
REQUIREMENTS.
CURRENTLY, THE SITING STANDARDS
ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE DO NOT ALIGN
WITH THE STREETS ILLUSTRATED.
SO, THAT IS THE KIND OF THE
FIRST POINT I WANT TO BRING UP
IN TERMS OF SPECIFIC PROPOSALS
WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD IS TO
UPDATE TO DEFINITIONS IN THE
MUNICIPAL CODE THE FIRST THING
IS THE PEDESTRIAN CLEAR ZONE.
CURRENTLY THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF
SPACE AVAILABLE TO PASSING
PEDESTRIANS AND YOU MAY LOOK AT
THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF
THE SCREEN.
THE BLUE SEGMENT IS NOT TO
INDICATE WHAT THE PEDESTRIAN
CLEAR ZONE IS BUT THAT'S THE
AMOUNT OF SPACE AVAILABLE NEXT
TO A CAFC.
CURRENTLY, WE REQUIRE 6 FEET
MINIMUM DOWNTOWN AT THE URBAN
CENTER AND 5 FEET ELSEWHERE.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO ALIGN THAT
MORE CLOSELY WITH STREETS
ILLUSTRATED, THIS ESSENTIALLY
MEANS THAT ON DOWNTOWN STREETS
AS DEFINED BY STREET
ILLUSTRATED THE MINIMUM WOULD
NOW BE 8 FEET AND REDUCING
COSTS ARE NOT REDUCING THEN
EVERYONE ELSE WOULD BE 6 FEET
SO, CITYWIDE THE MINIMUM WOULD
BE SIX WITH ADDITIONAL MINIMUM
REQUIREMENTS ON DOWNTOWN STREETS
.
>> SO, YOU USE THE LANGUAGE, I
THINK YOU SAID MORE CLOSELY
WHAT IS IT EXACTLY THE SAME OR
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT?
>> WE ARE PULLING ON THE
MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THE
PEDESTRIAN CLEAR ZONE .
>> SORRY I WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT
THAT.
>> IS SORRY, SOMETIMES THOSE
WORDS ARE USED WHEN WE ARE
PROPOSING .
>> THE SECOND PIECE IS A
PEDESTRIAN STREET PATH AS
SITING MECHANISM WERE USED TO
DETERMINE THE LOCATION OF THE
PEDESTRIAN CLEAR ZONE.
THE IDEA OF THIS IS THAT THIS
ESTABLISHES WHERE THE
PEDESTRIAN CLEAR ZONE CAN BE
LOCATED IN RELATION TO THE DAY
AND THE ENTIRETY OF THE SIDEWALK
. THE INTENT IS REALLY TO
MINIMIZE ZIGZAGGING, CURRENTLY
THE REQUIREMENT IS YOU MUST
MAINTAIN THIS FOREFOOT MINIMUM
EXTENDING THE ENTIRE BLOCK FACE
. WE ARE PROPOSING AFTER
DISCUSSING OTHER TRANSPORTATION
TO REDUCE THIS TO 3 FEET
CITYWIDE TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE
MORE STREAMLINING OF THE CONCEPT
AND THE LENGTH WOULD BE 25 FEET
ON EITHER END OF THE CAFC.
25 FEET WAS DETERMINED BECAUSE
THAT IS BASICALLY THE DIMENSION
ESTABLISHED IN STUDIES RELATED
TO THE AMOUNT OF SPACE A
PEDESTRIAN NEEDS TO START
TAKING EVASIVE ACTION ON THE
SIDEWALK TO MOVE ITEMS AROUND
ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO, THIS IS ESTABLISHING
COOPERATION WITH THE
TRANSPORTATION COOPERATION TO
BE THE APPROPRIATE DIMENSION TO
MOVE FORWARD.
>> SO, WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO FOR
THE EXTENSION?
>> IT'S THE ENTIRE BLOCK FACE.
WE'VE RUN INTO ISSUES IN THE
PAST WHERE THERE COULD BE AN
OBSTRUCTION OR SOME ELEMENT IN
THE SIDEWALK 300 FEET DOWN ON
THE END OF THE SIDEWALK THAT
COULD IMPACT THE ABILITY TO
CITE A CAFC.
>> SO TODAY WITH THE CURRENT
RULES, DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S
IMPOSSIBLE TO CITE A CAFC?
>> IT'S IMPOSSIBLE AND THE
APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO GO
THROUGH A DIRECTORS REVIEW
PROCESS WHICH WILL ELEVATED TO
THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION
TO MAKE THE CALL, BUT THAT'S
THE ONLY AVENUE TO GET AROUND
THAT BECAUSE IT'S A CODIFIED
STANDARD .
>> DO YOU KNOW OF THE 390 OR SO
PERMITS HOW MANY OF GONE TO THE
PROCESS OF VERSUS HOW MANY MEET
THE CURRENT STANDARD?
>> IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT,
I THINK GENERALLY WE DON'T
DEVIATE FROM THOSE STANDARDS
BECAUSE THEY ARE CODIFIED SO,
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
WE WANT TO BE MORE EXPLICIT
ABOUT USING STREET ILLUSTRATED
SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO
THE DEVIATION PROCESS DEFINED
THROUGH THE DIRECTORS RULE HAD
TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR CAFC
APPLICANTS AND I WOULD BE
SURPRISED TO SEE VERY OFTEN
THAT WE HAVE DEVIATED VIA THE
DIRECTORS PROCESS .
>> TO THE STREETS ILLUSTRATED
ALSO CALL OUT A PEDESTRIAN
STREET PATH .
>> RIGHT NOW THIS CONCEPT IS
PROPOSED TO BE IN A DIRECTORS
ROLE THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING
THIS LEGISLATION AND CALLING IT
THE PATH FORWARD CONSIDERING
DEVIATIONS, THIS CONCEPT IS
SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OPPOSED
AS PART OF OUR SIDEWALK CAFC
DIRECTORS RULE.
>> SO, ULTIMATELY WHAT WE SEE
OUT OF THIS IS THERE WILL BE A
WIDER PEDESTRIAN CLEAR ZONE
ESTABLISHED ACROSS-THE-BOARD
CITYWIDE .
>> SO, SORRY COULD WE GO BACK
TO THE PHOTO BECAUSE I CAN'T
EXACT RELEASE SEE WERE THE
STREET TREE WELL IS THAT IT
LOOKS LIKE, LET'S ASSUME FOR
THE SAKE OF THE QUESTION THERE
IN THE PEDESTRIAN CLEAR ZONE
BUT FURTHER UP IN THE PHOTO,
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE
OUTER WALL OF THE CAFC INTO
ALLOW 8 FEET BETWEEN THE TREE
WELL AND THE FENCING AND IT
WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE
CONSISTENT AND PROPOSED
ALLOWING FOR ZIGZAGGING BUT
THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE A 3
FOOT PATH EXTENDING ON EITHER
AND BEYOND THAT .
>> CORRECT .
>> JUST TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THIS
IT DOESN'T REDUCE ANY WALKABLE
PATH, IT'S MEANT TO BE THE
GENERAL DIRECTION OF WHERE THE
PEDESTRIAN CLEAR ZONE IS
LOCATED WHEN THEY MAKE THESE
DECISIONS.
SO, TO GET AT THE SECOND AND
THIRD PROGRAM GOAL ASSOCIATED
WITH THE CAFC PROGRAM, WE ARE
LOOKING TO PROPOSE A FEW CHANGES
TO THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE
TO ENCOURAGE MORE PARTICIPATION
IN THE PROGRAM AND AND REDUCE
BARRIERS TO PARTICIPATION.
THE FIRST OF WHICH IS RELATED
TO LOCATIONS OF WHERE CAFCS MAY
BE CONSIDERED.
CURRENTLY WE DO NOT ALLOW CAFCS
TO BE CITED WITHIN 50 FEET OF
ANY SINGLE-FAMILY LOWRISE
RESIDENTIAL ZONE, SO PARCEL IS
DESIGNATED UNDER THOSE
CATEGORIES.
WHILE THIS IS A RELATIVELY KIND
OF SMALL PORTION OF THE CITY WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT, WE RECEIVED
IN THE PAST I HANDFUL OR COUPLE
HANDFULS OF CAFC LOCATIONS FOR
BUSINESSES LOOKING TO CITE A
CAFC AND WE'VE HAD OUTRIGHT
DENY THEM BECAUSE OF THE ROOT
AIRMENT WERE LOOKING TO
RECONSIDER THAT OPEN UP
COMMERCIAL AREAS TO CAFC
OPPORTUNITIES UNDERSTANDING
THAT THERE ARE TOOLS IN THE
TOOL BELT RELATED TO MITIGATING
CONCERNS AROUND THE PROXIMITY
TO LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
ZONES. FOR EVERY CAFC PERMIT WE
GO THROUGH A PUBLIC NOTICE
PROCESS IN WHICH WE HEAR
FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN
ISSUING A PERMIT.
WE HAVE THE POWER TO ALSO
INSTITUTE PERMIT CONDITIONS
AROUND HOURS OF OPERATION OR
WHEN A CAFC CAN BE IN USE .
>> OKAY SO HOW OFTEN DO THOSE
CONDITIONS COME UP?
>> I IMAGINE THAT LIVING NEXT
TO A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IF
THERE'S A BUSINESS THERE I
IMAGINE THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T
WANT PEOPLE OUT DRINKING ON THE
SIDEWALK UNTIL 2 AM TO IS THAT
A PRETTY RARE THING WERE CAN WE
SEE IF CONDITIONS APPLY BASED
ON COMMENTS QUITE A BIT?
>> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE
FREQUENCY OF HOW MUCH WE GET
THOSE CONCERNS, I KNOW THAT
WE'VE HEARD IT IN THE PAST BUT
I DON'T THINK IT'S A FREQUENT
THING BUT I COULD GET MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF
INCIDENTS BUT FOR THE MOST PART
THESE CAFC PERMITS KIND OF
OPERATE WITH NO ISSUE .
>> I HEARD FROM MR. McDONALD
WHO PROVIDED TESTIMONY TODAY
WITH CONCERNS BUT HIS OPENING
COMMENT WAS EVERYONE LOVES
SIDEWALK CAFCS AND I IMAGINE
THERE ARE MOMENTS WHEN THEY ARE
ANNOYING BUT I THINK THERE IS A
SENSE THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT
TO IT TO THE OWNERS OF THE
PROPERTY KNOW IT CAN EXPAND
THEIR BUSINESS PROPERTY AND IN
CERTAIN LOCATIONS I'M SURE IT'S
EXTREMELY PROFITABLE AND AS
CUSTOMERS AND ON A NICE DAY
FINDING A PLACE THAT'S A GREAT
BENEFIT .
>> I MIGHT ADD ONE THING, WE DO
HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO WORK
WITH PEOPLE AFTER INITIAL
PERMIT ISSUANCE AND DURING
RENEWAL CYCLES.
SO IF WE HEAR COMPLAINTS OR
CONCERNS ARISING AFTER A PERMIT
HAS ISSUED GO WE COULD WORK
WITH THE PERMIT HOLDER TO COME
UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN OR
POTENTIALLY PUT AN ADDITIONAL
CONDITION AFTER THE INITIAL
PERMIT ISSUANCE.
SO IF WE MESS IT UP AND IT
CONTINUES TO BE SOMETHING THAT
NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WE HAVE
THE INITIAL ABILITY TO DO THAT
AFTER THE PERMIT IS ISSUED .
>> IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A
SIDEWALK PERMIT A RIGHT AS A
BUSINESS OWNER?
SINGLY MEET THE CONDITIONS OR
IS IT ALWAYS SUBJECT TO A
REVIEW PERIOD IN PUBLIC
COMMENTS AND IF YOU HEAR STRONG
CONCERNS CAN YOU OUTRIGHT DENY
THE PERMIT THING WE JUST DON'T
THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE USE?
OR IS THE MOST RESTRICTIVE YOU
COULD BE SAY WE HAVE TO GIVE
THE PERMIT BUT WE COULD PUT
CONDITIONS ON CONSISTENT WITH
CONCERNS WE HEARD?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE IT'S
IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION, IT'S NOT A
RIGHT TO HAVE THE USE IT'S
CONSIDERED A PRIVILEGE WE TRY
TO WORK WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE WE
SEE A LOT OF BENEFITS FOR CAFCS
IN THE PUBLIC PLACE BUT
ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY
TO DECIDE IF A PERMIT IS
APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY'S
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE PUBLIC
SPACE .
>> THE DESIRE IS NOT TO LORD
OVER THEM OF HOW DO YOU DO
SOMETHING BUT WE DO GIVE THE
LEVERAGE OF SAYING WE WANT TO
DO THIS FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT AND
WE NEED TO KEEP IT OPERATING SO
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO ON TO
CONSIDERATION OF PASSERBY'S
NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES AND
RESIDENTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
GREAT.
>>
>> ANOTHER ASPECT OF THE
PROPOSAL IS TO FORMALIZE THE
STREET AND PILOT PROGRAMS, BOTH
OF WHICH HAVE BEEN POPULAR IN
THE PILOT PHASE WE SEE THE
VALUE IN FOUR EITHER OF THE TWO
ALTERNATIVES IN THOSE CASES
WHERE BUSINESS MAY OPERATE WITH
VERY CONSTRAINED SIDEWALKS FOR
INSTANCE.
A STREET OR HE IS THE PHOTO
INDICATES IS A CAFC AND CURB
SPACE IT USUALLY TAKES ABOUT
ONE PARKING SPACE AND THE
BENEFIT OF THESE BASES IS MORE
ACTIVITY TO THE STREET AS WELL
AS WHEN THEY'RE IN OPERATION
AND WE REQUIRE THEM TO BE
PUBLIC SPACES.
AND THIS PILOT IS SOMETHING
WE'VE BEEN PURSUING WE HAVE
NEARLY 70 PERMITS ESSENTIALLY
MEANING WE REMOVE THE
REQUIREMENT FOR FENCING AROUND
CAFCS ON THE SIDEWALK TO ALLOW
FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A FREE
AIR DINING EXPERIENCE THIS
ALLOWS FOR A LITTLE BIT LESS OF
A PHYSICAL AND AESTHETIC IMPACT
ON THE SIDEWALK. YOU MAY SEE
LITTLE BLUE MARKERS ON THE
SIDEWALK YOLANDA DESIGNED THIS
AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE
CAFC SPACE .
>> SO, IT WILL BE FORMALIZED AS
PART OF THEIR DIRECT HIS ROLE
AS WELL, WE ARE GIVING THE NAME
CURB SPACE CAFCS WITHIN THE
ORDINANCE .
>> TO GO BACK AND SAY AGAIN THE
ROOT AIRMENT FOR MAKING THEM
PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE .
>> STREET AREAS PER PERMIT
CONDITIONS WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN
OPERATION BY THE BUSINESS THEY
MUST BE MADE PUBLIC .
>> WHEN THE BUSINESS IS OPEN
AND RUNNING THE BUSINESS HAS
ITS OWN RIGHT, THE EXCLUSIVE
RIGHT TO IT BUT WHEN THE
BUSINESSES CLOSE THEY DON'T GET
TO CLOSE IT UP AND FENCE IT OFF
I ASSUME A LOT OF PEOPLE BRING
THEIR TABLES AND BUT THEY'RE
TRYING TO KEEP THE TABLES .
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S
SOMETHING REQUIRED BUT UP UNTIL
NOW THEY HAVE THE DESIGN
PROCESS AND IT'S MORE INVOLVED
TO BUILD AN ACTUAL STRUCTURE.
WE DO ENCOURAGE SEATING TO
ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF AROUND
THE ROCK ACTIVATION .
>> THAN ON THE FENCE FREE I
GUESS BELONG TO YOU MIGHT BE
THE EXPERT, PART OF IT I ASSUME
THE MARKINGS ARE TO TRY TO NOT
GET FOLKS TO SPILL OUT TOO FAR
INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE
KIND OF SPACE WE TALKED ABOUT
EARLIER BUT WHAT ABOUT RULES
AROUND ALCOHOL SERVICE AND
STUFF OUTSIDE, DOES THAT ONLY
WORK IN A PLACE THAT DOESN'T
SERVE ALCOHOL?
>> THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SERVE
ALCOHOL, WE REQUIRE THAT ONLY
BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A
RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE CAN
OPERATE A CAFC SO BARS CAN'T
HAVE A CAFC.
THIS IS TO MITIGATE THE ISSUE
OF SPILLOVER.
WE ALSO REQUIRE TABLE SERVICE
GIVEN AN ATTENDANT AVAILABLE AT
ALL TIMES .
>> HAVE THOSE RULES BEEN IN
PLACE FOR A WHILE .
>> THAT'S WHAT WERE LIVING WITH
TODAY?
>> YES THE PILOT IS CURRENTLY
ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS BUT IT'S
BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 2016 .
>> BUT I REMEMBER SOME AREAS
ALSO LIKE DEFENSES ALSO AND SO
THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS .
>> EXACT WE .
>> OKAY SO OTHER UPDATES
INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE
INCLUDE MINOR AMENDMENTS TO
CLARIFY REGULATIONS AND ALSO
HARMONIZE DEFINITIONS ACROSS
TITLE 15, SO AN EXAMPLE OF THIS
IS VENDING, MERCHANDISE DISPLAY,
MUNICATION PERMITS AND OTHER
TYPES OF USES GOVERNED BY TITLE
15 WILL HAVE NOW THE UPDATED
DEFINITIONS AND STANDARDS AND
THAT ALLOWS IT TO BE HARMONIZED
ACROSS THE TITLE 15 AND NEXT IS
A PERMANENT TRANSFER OPTION
WHEN THE BUSINESS CHANGES
OWNERSHIP AND CURRENTLY HOW WE
OPERATE THE PERMITS IS THAT A
BUSINESS OWNER IS THE PERMIT
HOLDER AND IF THEY WERE TO
LEAVE THE BUSINESS THEY WOULD
NEED TO CLOSE OUT THE PERMIT.
AND, AT THAT POINT ALSO REMOVE
THE FENCING OR ANY SORT OF
STRUCTURE FOR PERMITTED USE ON
THE SIDEWALK, AS WELL AS REPAIR
PAVEMENTS FOR ANY PAYMENT
DAMAGE DONE. THEN, THE NEW
BUSINESS OWNER WOULD BE ASKED
TO REAPPLY FOR A PERMIT.
SO, WE ARE ESTABLISHING IN THE
CODE, ALLOWANCE TO OFFER
PERMITS FOR TRANSFER AND
DIRECTORS WILL BE WRITING A BIT
MORE AROUND THE CONDITIONS
UNDER WHICH THAT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED .
>> FINALLY, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING
TO ALIGN TITLE 15 A LITTLE
CLOSER WITH STREETS
ILLUSTRATED.
SPECIFICALLY ALLOWING
DEVIATIONS FROM THE STANDARDS
THAT HAVE BEEN FORMALLY
CONNECTED TO STREETS
ILLUSTRATED.
THE DEVIATION PROCESS -- WE
URRENTLY DON'T HAVE A PROCESS
TO CONSIDER DEVIATIONS FROM
PROCESSES.
OPERATORS GO THROUGH A DIRECTOR
REVIEW PROCESS AND FOUND THAT
IT HAS BEEN INEFFICIENT AND
DOESN'T ALWAYS CONVENE
APPROPRIATE STAFF.
SO THE ESTABLISHED DEVIATION
REQUEST PROCESS WILL HELP US
BETTER ALIGN THE PROCESS AS
WELL AS CONFER WITH A
TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER WHEN
APPROPRIATE .
>> OVER THE LAST YEAR WE'VE
BEEN CONVENING VARIOUS
STAKEHOLDERS BOTH INTERNAL AND
EXTERNAL TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL
AS WELL AS PROMOTE IT MORE
BROADLY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC
THROUGH BLOCK POSTS AND
DISSEMINATING FACT SHEETS.
WE DID RECEIVE ONE APPEAL AND
WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND
THE HEARING EXAMINER RULED THE
DETERMINATION OF A NON-
SIGNIFICANCE IT WAS UPHELD. SO,
JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A
LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT WE HEARD
FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD,
THE SEA 51 COMMENTS TOTAL,
MAJORITY OF WHICH WERE
SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSAL AND
IN PARTICULAR CITING ECONOMIC
AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS OF THE
PROGRAM IN GENERAL AND INTEREST
IN SEEING THE PILOT DESIGN
ALTERNATIVES MOVE FORWARD.
ABOUT 24% WERE IN THE NEUTRAL
CATEGORY I WOULD SAY, GENERALLY
POSITIVE ABOUT THE PROGRAM
ITSELF BUT HAD CONCERNS AROUND
MAY BE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES OR
HOW OTHER ITEMS ON THE SIDEWALK
INTERACT WITH CAFCS. THE
CONCERN ABOUT THE NOISE IMPACT
ABOUT HOW CAFCS ADD TO A
ALREADY COMPLEX ENVIRONMENT, AS
WELL AS A FEW INCIDENCES OF
CONCERN AROUND PARKING LOSS BUT
THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO
PROVIDE A BRIEFING FOR YOU AND
HOPING HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH FULL COUNSEL AND WE DO
HAVE ASSOCIATED DIRECTORS RULE
UPDATES AND WE HELP IN QUARTER
ONE OF NEXT YEAR WE CAN REVISIT
OUR PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS AND
REVIEW MATERIALS AND PUSH OUT A
REFRESH PROGRAM FOR THE CAFC
SEASON NEXT YEAR.
>> SO, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE
HEARD IS ABOUT BEING A
COMPLAINT BASED SYSTEM AS FAR
AS ENFORCEMENT.
I'M CURIOUS YOUR THOUGHTS IN
RESPONSE TO THAT.
>> WE ARE COMPLAINT BASED AND
ALSO DO HAVE INSPECTORS THAT DO
PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS ON A SITE
WILL FOR THESE TYPES OF
PERMITS.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW TO
IMPROVE THE PROCESS TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE DOING THIS IN URBAN
VILLAGES AND CENTERS.
WE RECOGNIZE THERE IS ALWAYS
ROOM TO IMPROVE THE STRATEGY
ALONG ENFORCEMENT BUT THAT WE
DON'T JUST DO COMPLAINT BASED
ENFORCEMENT THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE
INSPECTORS GOING OUT TO REVIEW
THE SPACES AND WORKING WITH
CAFC PERMITTEES TO PUT THESE
INTO COMPLIANCE .
>> WHAT IF THE NEW CAFC
APPLICATION I ASSUME THEY HAVE
DESIGNS THEY PUT IN AND SOMEONE
GOES OUT AND MEASURES AND
CONFIRMS AND THEN THEY INSTALL
THE FENCING AND WHATEVER THEY DO
AND SOMEONE GOES OUT AND
INSPECTS THE INITIAL PROCESS OF
THE SIGN OFF THAT IT'S COMPLIANT
, IS THAT TRUE?
YES.
>> ONGOING ENFORCEMENT, IS IT
JUST THE FENCE THAT IS CREEPING
OUT AN INCH TODAY OR FURTHER AND
WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS
THAT WE NEED TO BE ENFORCED
WHEN SOMETHING IS INSTALLED IF
YOU WILL?
>> WELL, SOMETIMES WE DO SEE
FENCE CREEP, ESPECIALLY IF THEY
DON'T HOLD IT AND ONE THING
WE'VE SEEN IS THEY MAY HAVE AN
A-FRAME SIGN THAT THEY DECIDE
TO PUT IN THE SPACE THEY'VE
DESIGNATED FOR A PEDESTRIAN
CLEAR ZONE OR OTHER THINGS THAT
MIGHT ENCOURAGE, SOMETIMES THEY
MIGHT HAVE UMBRELLAS THAT DON'T
OFFER ENOUGH OVERHEAD CLEARANCE
THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE
SEE MORE OFTEN .
>>
>> IF THE UMBRELLA EXTENDS INTO
THE FENCE IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST
SEVEN OR 8 FEET UP.
>>, WE ALSO JUST CHECK TO MAKE
SURE THAT CONDITIONS HAVE
REMAINED THE SAME, THERE WASN'T
A PARKING SIGN PUT IN THE PLACE
WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO
BE AVAILABLE FOR PEDESTRIAN
MOVEMENT .
>> I DO THINK, AND I APPRECIATE
THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IN THE
PAST, CITIES WOULD'VE DONE
SOCIAL JUSTICE TOOLKITS.
WE ARE FINE WITH THESE
COMPLAINT SYSTEMS AND FIND THAT
CERTAIN COMMUNITIES HAVE MORE
RESOURCES TO FILE COMPLAINTS
AND OTHERS IN SO, WE WANT TO BE
EQUITABLE AND ENFORCEMENT AND
SO, SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
400, IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR ONE
PERSON TO DO BUT IT SEEMS
REASONABLE TO AT LEAST ADVISE
ON SPACES PERIODIC WEIGHT
THINGS LIKE A-FRAMES ARE PRETTY
TOUGH AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED
IN ENSURING HOW WE REGULATE
THOSE BUT BECAUSE THEY CAN COME
AND GO AS NECESSARY AND SOMEONE
SWINGS BY AND SAYS YOU CAN'T
PUT IT THERE PUT IT AWAY,
FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN BE
STRATEGIC.
IT'S ONE THING WHEN OFFENSE
GETS BUMPED OUT A LITTLE BIT
AND YOU SAY HERE'S THE LINE AND
YOU RESET IT BUT IF FOLKS ARE
TRYING TO RECOGNIZE HEY IF WE
CATCH YOU DOING THIS AGAIN WE
WILL SHUT THIS THING DOWN BUT
IT'S NOT WORKING FOR US.
SO I'M INTERESTED IN
PROGRAMMATIC EFFORTS TO MAKE
SURE THESE ARE BEING DONE AT
ABILITY IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND
THE CRITICAL PIECE OF DESIGNING
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE MOST
VULNERABLE USERS.
SO, FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES
TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE SPACE,
THE LEAST ABILITY TO FILE
COMPLAINTS AND SO, IT SHOULDN'T
BE UPON THEM TO NOT JUST
NAVIGATE THE STREETSCAPE BUT
ALSO DO ENFORCEMENT WORK TO
ENSURE THAT IS HAPPENED BUT IF
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
NEEDED, TO DO THAT EFFECTIVELY
WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT ALSO
AND WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON
THAT .
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> KELLY DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE ON THIS?
>> GREAT .
>> ALL RIGHT.
I'M LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP
ME COMPANY .
>> I WILL PITCHING .
>> THANK YOU, YOLANDA. IN TERMS
OF THE 50 FOOT SETBACK THAT YOU
ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE FROM
THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOWRISE
RESIDENTIAL, WHERE WOULD THE
IMPACT BE AND WERE YOU ABLE TO
DETERMINE?
>> SO, I TRIED TO DISPLAY THIS
ON A MAP AND FOUND IT TO NOT BE
THE MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR
THAT GIVEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
50 FEET ON A CITYWIDE SCALE
THAT IT WAS HARD TO DEPICT.
BUT I THINK, THINKING A LITTLE
MORE GENERALLY WHERE WE SEE IN
THE INTEREST FROM THE BUSINESS
OWNERS THAT WE HAVE HAD TO
REJECT DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO
THE AREAS THAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT COMMERCIAL NODES MAY BE
ON THE EDGE OF AN URBAN VILLAGE
OR WITHIN AN URBAN VILLAGE BUT
ON THE EDGE OF WORDS
TRANSITIONING INTO A
RESIDENTIAL AREA.
WE SEEN INTEREST FROM WEST
SEATTLE, DELRIDGE WALLINGFORD,
CENTRAL DISTRICT, THESE ARE
AREAS WHERE WE'VE GOT AN
INTERESTING CAFCS AND HAD TO
REJECT BECAUSE OF THAT .
>> IT'S AN INTERESTING MIX. I
THINK FOR SO MANY COMMUNITIES,
A COFFEE SHOP RESTAURANT THAT
HAS OUTDOOR SEATING CAN BE LIKE
A HUGE ASSET AND IT BRINGS
EVERYBODY TOGETHER IS THE GLUE
AND IT'S BEST WHEN YOU HAVE A
BUSINESS OWNER THAT'S ACTUALLY
ACCOUNTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY
AND PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND
SEES HIMSELF AS THAT AND
STEWARDING THAT AND I IMAGINE
THAT'S THE VAST MAJORITY OF
THINGS THAT WE SEE SO IT'S A
SHAME TO MISS OUT ON THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME
COMMUNITIES AND WE HAVE SOME
THAT ARE QUITE IS COMMITTED TO
UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF THE
COMMUNITY AND IT'S HARD TO HAVE
A BUNCH OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS
AND MANY ARE EXCITED BUT SOME
ARE NOT AND GAINING THAT COULD
BE PRETTY IMPORTANT AND IT
SEEMS YOU HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO
THAT AND I HOPE YOU HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO MANAGE THAT.
SO, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I HEAR A
LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT AN
OBVIOUSLY CERTAIN AREAS WITH
LOTS OF NIGHTLIFE HAVE NOISE
COMPLAINTS BUT IT'S LESS ABOUT
SIDEWALK CAFCS AND MORE ABOUT
SPILLOVER AND PEOPLE LATE AT
NIGHT AFTER THEY DRINK A LOT BY
BEING A PROBLEM.
THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM
THIS AND SO, I'M EXCITED TO SEE
HOW IT GOES, I IMAGINE WHERE
THIS COULD BE APPROPRIATE IN
PLACES WHERE THERE COULD BE
TENSION BUT, I'M WILLING TO
GRANT THAT FOR NOW AND ASK THAT
WE HAVE AN ONGOING CONVERSATION
TO SEE WHERE IT IS WORKING AND
WHERE IT'S NOT AND IN PLACES
WHRE IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE AND
HOW YOU MADE THOSE DECISIONS
ALSO .
>> ANYTHING ELSE?
>> THANK YOU BOTH FOR
PARTICIPATING AND FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION WORK ON THIS.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING THE
LEGISLATIVE FORWARD AND I WILL
MOVE IN SECOND COUNTS OF THE
119622 AND VOTE YES ON THAT .
>> WAIT, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT
.
>> MINOR, SLOW IT DOWN .
>> TELL ME ABOUT THE AMENDMENT
.
>> IT'S A VERY MINOR TECHNICAL
AMENDMENT TO AN ERRONEOUS
REFERENCE TO PRIVATE PROPERTY
THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE
INCLUDED AND THERE WAS A
DUPLICATE OF DEFINITION OF
CAFCS ON THE SIDEWALK THAT WE
GOT TO FURTHER PURPOSES OF CODE
DRAFTING HAVING DEFINITIONS IN
ONE PLACE IS BETTER THAN TWO
PLACES IN CASE THEY NEED TO BE
UPDATED IN FUTURE AMENDMENTS.
>> THAT IS A BIG PART OF YOUR
JOB SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE
AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AND WILL
SECOND THE AMENDMENT AND VOTE
YES ON THAT.
SO, NOW THE LEGISLATION IS
AMENDED AND WE WILL ROLLBACK
TE CLOCK A LITTLE BIT AND I
WILL NOW VOTE ON THE AMENDED
COUNSEL BILL 119622.
I WILL SECOND IT AND VOTE YES
ON IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
>> THANK YOU .
>> GOODBYE, YOLANDA, WE WILL
MISS YOU .
>> THE NEXT SHORT VERSION .
>> COUNTS OF THE 119562 AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
CITATION AND PENALTY ON THE
STREET AND SIDEWALK USE CODE.
>>
>> HELLO .
>> HI
>> WELCOME. AS YOU GET SETTLED,
DON'T WE START WITH A QUICK
ROUND OF INTRODUCTIONS .
>> I AM THE YOUTH DIVISION
DIRECTOR -- GOOD TO SEE YOU
BOTH .
>> YOU GUYS HAVE A PRESENTATION
FOR A PIECE OF LEGISLATION
BEFORE US, WHEN YOU JUMP IN
WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AND WALK
ME AND THOUSANDS OF VIEWERS AT
HOME THAT ARE TRACKING THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND A
HANDFUL OF FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE
.
>> THANK YOU, WE HAVE TODAY A
PROPOSAL TO UPDATE THE STREET
USE PENALTY PHASE IN MUNICIPAL
COURT 15.
>> WE WANT TO TIE THIS IN A
LITTLE BIT TO THE MISSION
VISION AND CORE VALUES,
PARTICULARLY THE FOCUS ON
SAFETY AND MOBILITY WHEN WE
UPDATE CITATION PENALTIES, IT'S
A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN
A STRAIGHT FEE HIKE BECAUSE WE
WANTED TO PUT IT THROUGH AN
EQUITY LENS TO MAKE SURE WE
WERE DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACTING SMALL MINORITY OWNED
BUSINESSES .
>> OKAY. SO, WE TALK A LITTLE
ABOUT THE OVERALL ENFORCEMENT
PROCESS AND LOOKING AT THE
GOALS FOR THE PROPOSAL,
PROPOSED CHANGES, WE HAVE A FEW
PICTURES OF CASE STUDIES AND
WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A
LITTLE BIT OF OUTREACH SUMMARY
AND THEN NEXT STEPS .
>> SO, WE REALLY WANTED TO LOOK
AT A CITATION PENALTY PHASE AS
PART OF THE EXISTING
PROGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT
PROCESS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS USED FOR
ENFORCEMENT AND TITLE 50 BUT I
FOUND THE CITATIONS ARE THE
EASIEST TOOL OF ENFORCEMENT FOR
US. THE NEXT STEP UP FROM A
WARNING OR COMMUNICATION WITH
SOMEONE WHO IS DOING SOMETHING
INAPPROPRIATE IN THE RIGHT-OF-
WAY.
AND, OTHER TOOLS WE HAVE ARE
NOTICES OF VIOLATION WHICH TEND
TO BE LITIGATED IN LONGER
PROCESSES, EMERGENCY ORDERS AND
STOCK WORKORDERS ARE FAIRLY
SIMILAR BUT HAVE A REALLY HIGH
IMPACT PARTICULARLY IF WE TELL
THEM TO STOP WORKING THE RIGHT-
OF-WAY.
WE WANTED TO LOOK AT CITATIONS
AS A WAY TO SPAN THE GAP A
LITTLE MORE BEFORE COMPARING TO
A WARNING OR STOCK WORK ORDER.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR
ABATEMENT OF SOMETHING IS LEFT
IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IF WE NEED
TO REMOVE OR WORK ON THINGS TO
RECOUP COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
THAT.
TODAY WE ARE JUST FOCUSING ON
THE CITATION PENALTY FEE
AMOUNTS.
THE CITATION SECTION WAS
CREATED IN 2002 AND SINCE THEN
IT HASN'T BEEN HOLISTIC WE
UPDATED. THERE'S BEEN A FEW
MINOR UPDATES AS NEW CODE
SECTIONS HAVE COME INTO PLACE
WITH A COUPLE LITTLE TWEAKS BUT
WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT UPDATING
IT HOLISTICALLY SINCE 2002, IT
IS 17 YEARS OLD.
>> AGAIN, WE WANT TO TALK A
LITTLE ABOUT THE PROGRESSIVE
ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
SO, WE TRIED TO REALLY MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE CLEAR AND CONSISTENT
AND START WITH THE FIRST
VIOLATION PROVIDING CLEAR
VERBAL DIRECTION AND A WARNING
OR INSPECTION REPORT AND THEN
FOLLOW UP LATER USUALLY WITHIN
24 HOURS BUT DEPENDING ON THE
CIRCUMSTANCE IT MAY BE EARLIER
OR LATER AND THEN THE SECOND,
THIRD AND FOURTH VIOLATION IS
FOCUSING ON VERBAL CITATION FOR
SOMEONE DOING WORK WITHOUT A
PERMIT WITHOUT THE TERMS AND
CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT.
THEN LOOKING AT THE FIFTH AND
SIXTH VIOLATION ARE STOP
WORKORDERS OR BY NOTICE OF
VIOLATION .
>> IS IT ALL CONSTRUCTION
PROJECT?
>> IT'S PRETTY MUCH ANY NON-
VEHICULAR USE OF THE RIGHT AWAY
, STREET VENDING, LARGE
DEVELOPMENT PROJECT STAGING IN
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IT'S ALL OF IT
.
>> EVENT, LIKE, HOW OFTEN DO
YOU GET TO A FOURTH VIOLATION?
>> LAST YEAR WE ISSUED ABOUT
370 OR SO CITATIONS. RIGHT NOW
THOUGH THE FEES ARE SO LOW WE
DON'T FIND A LOT OF COMPLIANCE
WITH THE CITATIONS SO INSPECTORS
TEND TO RATHER THAN ISSUE A
CITATION TESTED ON SITE TO MAKE
SURE SOMETHING IS GETTING DONE.
THE COST OF INSPECTION TIME IS
MORE THAN THE CITATION AMOUNT
RIGHT NOW ON THE CITATION
AMOUNTS RIGHT NOW ARE LOWER
THAN PERMIT FEES, SO THERE IS
NO INCENTIVE TO COME GET A
PERMIT OR COME INTO COMPLIANCE
RIGHT NOW .
>> SO, I DON'T KNOW, I
ENVISIONED THAT A LOT OF THE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THE
SIDEWALK CAFCS, DON'T HEAR A
TON ABOUT THAT BUT I DO HEAR A
LOT ABOUT HEY IS THIS AN
APPROPRIATE PLACE AND WHAT'S
GOING ON.
I IMAGINE THESE ARE
MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS,
OFTEN WITH A LOT OF COMPLEXITY
AND SOMEONE IS TRYING TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THE RULES AND
SNEAK ONE OR THEY COULD JUST BE
BUSY AND DISTRACTED AND NOT
PAYING ATTENTION BUT REGARDLESS
OF WHAT IT IS, IT'S CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT THAT WHEN FOLKS ARE
GIVEN THE RIGHT TO USE OUR
PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY THERE BEING
HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND SO I GUESS
IT SEEMS LIKE THE TOOLS IN
PLACE RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE
THE INSPECTORS USE BEST JUDGMENT
TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT TO SAY I'M
NOT LEAVING UNTIL THIS GETS
FIXED, SO I COME APPRECIATE THE
COMMITMENT BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE
WE NEED BETTER TOOLS .
>> OR THE FEES NEED TO BE SET
TO A LEVEL THAT WILL
INCENTIVIZE COMPLIANCE RATHER
THAN TAKING A LOT OF TIME .
>> OKAY SO, HERE ARE THE GOALS
FOR THE PROPOSAL.
AS MENTIONED, WE WANT TO SET
OUR CITATION PENALTY FEES TO BE
AT A LEVEL II INCENTIVIZE TO
GET A PERMIT SO, THAT IS GOING
TO HAPPEN WITH ALIGNMENT, WE
ALSO WANTED TO FIND A WAY OF
DIVIDING ESCALATION BEFORE WE
JUMP TO A STOP WORK ORDER PATH
WHICH RARELY HAPPENS BUT WITH
THE FEES BEING AS LOW AS THEY
WERE THAT WAS SOMETIMES THE
ONLY WAY TO GET COMPLIANCE.
THE LAST TWO POINTS ON THE
PROPOSAL FOR THE GOALS, REALLY
THE IDEA OF ALIGNING WITH THE
IMPACT AND MINIMIZING
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS IF YOU
THINK ABOUT IS YOU TALKED ABOUT
THE WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS THAT
STREET USE MANAGERS, UTILITY
PROJECT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME
IMPACT ON THE SAFETY AND
MOBILITY OF THE MOVING PUBLIC
AS MAY BE A FOOD VENDOR DOES
AND THAT IS SORT OF WHAT WE
HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE
PROPOSAL.
SO, ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE
WITH THE ACTUAL PROPOSED
CHANGES ARE.
SO, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR IN THE
FIRST CATEGORY OF VENDING AND
MAINTENANCE PERMITS, WE SAW 30
CITATIONS GET ISSUED .
>> IN THE TOP CATEGORY?
>> YES, 30 WERE ISSUED IN THE
CATEGORY AND THE MAJORITY OF
THEM WERE ACTUALLY FOR DOING
THAT TYPE OF PERMIT WITHOUT A
PERMIT SO, FOR EXAMPLE, VENDING
IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHOUT OF
VENDING PERMIT.
SO, OVERALL THE FEES WILL GET
REDUCED AND THEN, THEY UTILITY
PERMITS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE
CITY OF SEATTLE REGARDLESS OF
THE SINGLE-FAMILY ZONE OR OTHER
ZONES OF THE FEES WILL GO UP
ACROSS THE BOARD STARTING AT
$1000, $2000 AND THEN 4000 AND
AGAIN ALL OF THIS IS AFTER WE
FIRST IN OUR INITIAL CONTACT OF
THE EDUCATION FIRST APPROACH IN
EXPLAINING COMPLIANCE, THE
SECOND TIME YOU ARE CAUGHT
BASICALLY.
THEN, THE THIRD CATEGORY,
CONSTRUCTION PERMITS WE DIVIDE
THOSE BETWEEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY
ZONES AND OTHER ZONES TO ALIGN
WITH THE IMPACT OF WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THE RIGHT AWAY IF
THERE IS NONCOMPLIANCE ISSUE.
SO, THE REDUCTION WE ARE
REFERENCING WITH THE
CONSTRUCTION PERMITS COMES IN.
THE CODE USED TO HAVE A HIGHER
CITATION PENALTY FEE IF YOU ARE
CAUGHT DOING WORK IN THE RIGHT-
OF-WAY WITHOUT A PERMIT, THAT
WAS $500 BUT WE WON'T HAVE THAT
DISTINCTION ANYMORE.
THIS WILL ALWAYS BE $250 AS A
FIRST VIOLATION BUT IF YOU'RE
OUTSIDE OF A ZONE THE FIRST
VIOLATION WILL BE $1000.
>> SO, YOU MENTIONED THE FIRST
CATEGORY THAT 30 CITATIONS WERE
ISSUED, WHAT ARE THE OTHER TWO
CATEGORIES?
>> COMBINED IT WAS 373 .
>> OKAY. SO, UTILITY PERMITS .
>> BOTH CITY LIGHT AND SPU HAVE
PERMITS .
>> AND THEN ALSO THE TELEPHONE
COMPANY, ANY TIME YOU ARE
PUTTING A CONE DOWN ON THE
STREET AND BLOCKING THE MANHOLE
OR IS IT MORE?
>> IT IS, WE ISSUE PERMITS TO
THE MAJOR UTILITY AGENCIES AND
WE CALL THEM ANNUAL VEHICLE
PERMITS FOR WE DON'T
NECESSARILY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT
WHERE THEY GO TO CHANGE A
LIGHTBULB BUT THEY DO NEED TO
COMPLY WITH ALL THE RULES AND
REGULATIONS TO WORK WITH SPU
AND CITY LIGHT WITH CREWS TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT TRAFFIC CONTROL
LOOKS LIKE AND UNDERSTAND THE
IMPACT OF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC
THEY HAVE PERMIT ATTACHED ALL
THE VEHICLES AND THEY NEED TO
FOLLOW UP WITH A PERMIT NUMBER
TO TRACK .
>> OKAY GOOD .
>> SO, OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES
HAPPENING, JUST MINOR THINGS,
WE HAVE IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW
THE TIMEFRAME FOR REPEAT
VIOLATION IS FIVE YEARS THAT WE
DON'T HAVE A GREAT WAY OF
TRACKING THAT SO IT MADE MORE
SENSE TO TRACTOR ONE YEAR IS A
REPEAT VIOLATION TIMEFRAME.
THEN, WE ARE MAKING CONSISTENT
PROCEDURES FOR ALL USES AND THEN
DO WE ALSO DON'T HAVE A WAY
RIGHT NOW OF ADJUSTING PENALTY
FEES ANNUALLY AND HOW WE ADJUST
FEES ANNUALLY BASED ON IN THE
INFLATION RATE WE ARE PROPOSING
TO DO THE SAME THING WITH
PENALTY FEE AMOUNTS.
AND WE HAVE .
>> AND THE NEXT CASE STUDY YOU
CAN SEE HOW IT CAN CHANGE AND A
DECREASE THE BAR ACROSS THE
BOARD. WE DID A LOT OF OUTREACH
AROUND THE TOPIC AND WE SENT AN
EMAIL OUT ON THE CONTACT LIST
THAT WENT OUT OVER 35,000
PEOPLE.
WE GOT BACK JUST TO COMMENTS
THAT WERE SLIGHTLY OFF-TOPIC
AND WE FELT STRONGLY THAT
PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THE GOAL OF
THE LEGISLATION COULD ONLY
IMPACTS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED WITH EDUCATION AND A
WARNING, IT'S ONLY IF YOU'RE
DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
I THINK IT CAME ACROSS AND
EVERYONE SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND
THAT AND GET THE GOAL WITH
ALIGNING THE IMPACT WITH WHERE
YOU DO YOUR WORK IN THE RIGHT-
OF-WAY.
SO, WE DID A FEW IN-PERSON
BRIEFINGS AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY
NEGATIVE COMMENTS AT ALL, IT
WAS MAYBE EVEN A SLIGHT
POSITIVE AND WE GOT TO TALK A
SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY AND THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
MINORITY CONTRACTORS .
>> GREAT .
>> SO I APPRECIATE THAT THE
THOROUGH OUTREACH OF THE FOLKS
BEING REGULATED. WHAT ABOUT THE
FOLKS IMPACTED BUT THAT IS WHAT
I HEAR A LOT OF CONCERN,
ESPECIALLY IN CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS I'M TRYING TO CROSS
THE STREET HAVE BIKES AND
PEDESTRIANS IN THE SAME AREA,
THERE'S NO SAFE PEDESTRIAN ZONE
PEOPLE ARE WALKING IN THE
STREET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY
FEEL LIKE. SPEAK TO THE
PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD OR
ANY OF THOSE ABOUT THIS?
>> WE DID NOT FOR THIS UPDATE
BUT THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY
COUNCIL HAD BOTH SIDES OF IT
BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH BEING
IMPACTED BY STRUCTURAL USE IN
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND OUT
THROUGH SIDEWALK CAFC AND OTHER
ACTIVATION, THEY COULD BE
IMPACTED TO THE CITATION AND
THAT IS WHERE WE GOT A LOT OF
COMMENTS COMING BOTH WAYS .
>> OKAY .
>> I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THIS
FORWARD TODAY. IT WOULD BE GREAT
IF THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY
BOARD IS INTERESTED TO PRESENT
TO THEM, JUST TO HEAR IT TO GET
FEEDBACK AND I KNOW YOU
SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDED THE
NUMBER OF INSPECTORS IN THE
WORK BECAUSE OF THE
CONSTRUCTION ENVIRONMENT IN
SEATTLE THAT IS SO MUCH CRAZIER
THAN I HAD BEEN AND SO, WE'VE
HAD THE NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO, OFFER IT UP, THEY MAY SAY NO
AND THEY MAY HAVE ENOUGH ON THE
AGENDA AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
DOING BUT IF THEY'RE OPEN TO IT
.
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO .
>> OKAY, GREAT.
>> SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE MOVING
FORWARD AND ONE OF THE REASONS
WERE LOOKING AT THIS IN ADVANCE
OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS IS
MAINLY TO ALIGN WITH THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
PERMITTING SYSTEM.
IT DIDN'T QUITE ALIGN WITH THE
BUDGET PROCESS SO WE DON'T WANT
TO DO DUPLICATE WORK WHEN WE DO
THE DESIGN WORK OR FINAL DESIGN
WORK FOR THAT TO IMPLEMENT CODE
ENFORCEMENT PORTION OF THAT.
SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT
HOPEFULLY MAY BE Q1 OF 2020 OR
2021 IT WILL EVALUATE BASED ON
WHAT WE SEEN FROM THE CITATION
PROCESS TO EVALUATE THE IMPACT
OF THIS VERSUS COMPLIANCE AND
THEN COME BACK TO SEE IF IT'S
WORKING OR NOT .
>> THE GOAL BEING THAT WE HAVE
FEWER REPEAT OFFENDERS BECAUSE
PEOPLE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND
IF, $4000 IS STILL THE MINIMUS
THAN THEY REALLY DON'T CARE AND
THEY HAVE TO REEVALUATE THE
TOOLS WE NEED .
>> OKAY .
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
>> I REALLY SECOND THE REACHING
OUT TO THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY
BOARD AND I THINK IT'S
DEFINITELY WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT BLOCKED SIDEWALKS AND
JUST THAT LIVED EXPERIENCE OF
WHAT THE IMPACT MEANS. I THINK
A LOT OF THE REFORMS MAKE A LOT
OF SENSE .
>> OKAY GREAT SO I'M GONNA GO
AHEAD AND MOVE IN SECOND
ACCOUNTS OF THE 119652 NO
AMENDMENTS YOU ARE AWARE OF?
>> NO NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
>> SO I WILL VOTE YES ON THAT
COUNSEL BILL AND BRING IT TO
THE FULL COUNCIL ON MONDAY .
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK
ON THAT .
>> ITEM NUMBER NINE, READ THE
FULL TITLE ON THIS ONE .
>> I THINK I CAN HANDLE THAT .
>> INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEMS ARE I TS BRIEFING .
>> I WILL SEE YOU AT THIS
COMMITTEE TABLE TWICE TODAY, SAM
, IT'S GOT TO BE AN EXCITING
DAY FOR YOU .
>> OH YES.
>> I DON'T HAVE AN AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLE TODAY SO SOMEONE HAS TO
DRIVE.
>> WHEN YOU ARE READY, WHAT WE
START, SAM GO AHEAD AND START
WITH THE INTRODUCTIONS.
>> SAM BERMAN BOB LILLEY -- SAM
ZIMBABWE, DIRECTOR OF SDOT .
>> ADIAM EMERY .
>> WE ARE NOT TALKING ON CLOSE
SERVANT CIRCUIT TELEVISION
TALKING ABOUT ITS .
>> LET'S START WITH YOUR
PRESENTATIONS .
>> I WILL START IT OFF AND TURN
IT OVER TO ADIAM EMERY AND
JASON TO TALK ABOUT DETAILS BUT
WERE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COME TODAY TO
TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE ABOUT
MULTIMODAL OPERATIONS FITTING
IN WITH OUR INTELLIGENT
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS .
>> YOU CAN GO FOR ONE HERE
YOU'RE DRIVING .
>> WE ALWAYS COUCH THIS IN OUR
MISSION VISION AND VALUES AND
WE SEE INTELLIGENT
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS IS
HELPING US TO MEET OUR MISSION
AND VISION OF DELIVERING
TRANSPORTATION SERVICES IN A
SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE WAY.
GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE .
>> I WILL COVER THE BACKGROUND
AND THEN ADIAM EMERY AND JASON
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE UNIT OF
PROJECT AND HOW WE'VE LOOKED TO
CHANGE OPERATIONS OVER THE PAST
YEAR OR SO LOOKING AT
MULTIMODAL NEEDS AND HOW WE
BALANCED ALL THE NEEDS WE FACE.
.
>> THIS TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
IS A WAY TO MANAGE THE RIGHT-OF-
WAY, THE WAY TO MANAGE WHAT IS
A STATIC ROADWAY, FIXED SET OF
THINGS LIKE CURBS AND SIGNALS
INTO SOMETHING DYNAMIC AND
RESPONDS TO THE VARYING DEMANDS
OVER TIME OF DAY AND VARIOUS
USER GROUPS THAT HELP US
BALANCE OUT MULTIMODAL NEEDS
AND HELP US GET THE MOST OUT OF
WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF
TRANSPORTATION RIGHT-OF-WAY IN
THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.
>> OKAY, SO, THERE'S A LOT THAT
GOES INTO THIS AND, WE'VE GOT
1100 SIGNALS, AND A LOT OF
THINGS THAT WE BALANCE IN DOING
úALL OF THAT AND SO, HOW WE
COORDINATE THE OPERATIONS OF
THE SIGNALS AND HOW WE THINK
ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY OF
PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS AND HOW WE
DEVELOP VARIOUS TOOLS FOR
MANAGING TRAFFIC SAFELY IN ALL
SORTS OF CONTACT FOR SCHOOLS
AND ALL THE THINGS WE DO AS AN
AGENCY .
>> SO, SAM, ON THIS ONE, THE
CONCERN THAT I HEAR AND YOU'VE
BEEN GRACIOUS TO JOIN ME ON A
WALK THROUGH THIS JOB AND
PREVIOUS JOBS IS THE ASPECT OF
ITS WHERE USING TECHNOLOGY TO
PRIORITIZE DIFFERENT USE IN THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY MY UNDERSTANDING
IS ITS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT
ASPECT OF IT. ALL STOPLIGHTS
PART OF INTELLIGENT
TRANSPORTATION OR JUST THE ONES
HOOKED UP QUICK'S IS
ESSENTIALLY ITS EVERYTHING YOU
DO?
>> I THINK THERE ARE VARIOUS
SCALES OF THAT, SO, IF YOU
THINK ABOUT THE SLIDE OF WHAT
TRAFFIC SIGNALS USED TO BE,
MAYBE EVEN THE NEXT SLIDE, IN
SOME WAYS THE GUY ON THE TOP
LEFT IS DEALING WITH
ELECTROMAGNETIC TRAFFIC SIGNALS
AND A DIAL THAT OPERATES IT AND
IT'S BASICALLY A FIXED ASSET
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GUY GO OPEN
THE CABINET TO CHANGE IT BUT
NOW WE HAVE BASICALLY GOT
COMPUTERS RUNNING OUR TRAFFIC
SIGNALS THAT CAN BE REMOTELY
PROGRAMMED AND REMOTELY
MONITORED AND I THINK WHAT YOU
ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A LOT OF
WHAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE FROM OUR
TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM ABOUT THE
RULES OF ENGAGEMENT OR THE
RULES WE SET FROM AN OPERATIONS
PERSPECTIVE OF HOW WE OPERATE
THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEMS DON'T IN AND OF
THEMSELVES MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT
HOW WE OPERATE THEM AND THIS IS
SORT OF ONE SCALE OF ITS AND
THEN THERE IS THE SOFTWARE AND
OTHER TOOLS WE USE IN TERMS OF
HOW WE DO DETECTION OF VARIOUS
USERS THAT ARE ALL PART OF THE
UNIVERSE OF WHAT WE CALL
INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEMS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE
DIAL BASED TRAFFIC SIGNALS LEFT
IN THE CITY. BUT, NOT EVERY
CABINET LOOKS LIKE THAT INSIDE
OF IT.
>> SO, JUST GOING BACK, THERE
IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND
THERE'S ALSO OPERATIONAL
ASPECTS OF IT SO IF YOU GO TO
THE NEXT ONE, I KNOW I'M
JUMPING AROUND BUT OUR TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT AND DYNAMIC MESSAGE
SIGNS AND THE ABILITY TO
REMOTELY MONITOR AND ADJUST OUR
SIGNAL SYSTEM, BASED ON THE
NEEDS AND THEN PROVIDE
INFORMATION OUT TO THE
TRAVELING PUBLIC NO MATTER HOW
THEY ARE GETTING AROUND EXPECT
GREAT
>> SO, ITS, SO TO KIND OF
SUPPORT SOME OF THESE ANSWERS,
ANYTHING THAT HAS CURRENT
FLOWING ELECTRONIC MANAGES THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY OR GIVE YOU THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY WILL BE PART OF
THE ITS DATA AS RECOMMENDED.
SO THE CHALLENGES, THE INDUSTRY
HAS BEEN AND STILL IS VERY OUR
CENTER. SDOT FINDS IT VERY
CHALLENGING IN ROLLING OUT OUR
VISION OF MULTIMODAL OPERATION
BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF
TECHNOLOGY THAT SUPPORTS OUR
PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TO BE
INTEGRATED INTO THE DATA DEMAND
BASE OPERATION THAT WE ARE
GEARING TOWARDS.
BUT AS I CONTINUES TO ENGAGE
WITH OTHER CITIES THAT ARE
TESTING THIS TECHNOLOGY AND
ALSO WITH INDUSTRY LEADERS,
VENDORS AND COMPANIES THAT ARE
IN CHARGE OF COMING UP WITH THE
TECHNOLOGIES TO PURSUE MORE
INTO A MULTIMODAL TYPE OF SCALE
, BECAUSE URBAN METROPOLITAN
CITIES CAN SUPPORT CAR CENTRIC
ANYMORE AND WE NEED TO BE
EMBRACING THIS THING AND SO WE
ARE PUSHING THE ENVELOPE IN
WORKING WITH INDUSTRY TO COME
UP WITH SUITABLE TECHNOLOGIES
THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE
PEDESTRIAN CYCLISTS AND
TRAVELERS OR USERS.
SO, FOR NOW, WE ARE FROM A
TRANSIT PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE BEEN
SUPPORTING PRIORITY AT
LOCALIZED INTERSECTION
PERSPECTIVE AND PEDESTRIANS
CROSSING SAFELY WITH THE
CROSSING BUT THERE IS STILL A
GAP AND IN NEED FOR US WITH
GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY TO INTEGRATE
PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS INTO
AN ALGORITHM. FREIGHT AGAIN IS
STILL GOT SPACE TO IMPROVE
FREIGHT RELATED OPERATION. SO,
WE APPLIED IN 2018, FEDERAL
GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED THE HAD
A LOT OF R&D PERSPECTIVE WHICH
IS TRUTH IN THE STORY GOT A
LACK OF TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT
MULTIMODAL IS NOT THERE
NATIONWIDE AND THEY RECOGNIZE
THAT.
SO, FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I'VE
BEEN IN THIS INDUSTRY FOR 26
YEARS, TO WHERE THERE IS AN
ACTUAL PHOTO GRANT GOING
TOWARDS R&D IN TERMS OF ITS
TECHNOLOGY, TO SUPPORT OR BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT OTHER CITIES
AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO, THE $12 MILLION GRANT
IMPROVEMENT OF UW PRIMARY
FOCUSES ON UPDATING THE AGING
úINFRASTRUCTURE AT THE
UNIVERSITY DISTRICT.
BUT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
RESEARCH ON PAST DETECTION FOR
PEDESTRIANS.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR EMERGENCY
RESPONDERS TO NAVIGATE
CONGESTED CORRIDORS WHEN THEY
ARE RESPONDING AND HOW WE CAN
INTEGRATE THEM INTO THE
OPERATIONAL CRITERIA OR
HIERARCHY ARE THE THINGS THAT
THIS PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO
KIND OF GIVE US AT THE END OF
2020 SIX WHEN YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT UP WORDING
INFRASTRUCTURE, WERE TALKING
ABOUT NEW SIGNALS, NEW WIRING,
AND JUST SO THAT THEY CAN
COMMUNICATE THROUGH ALL OF THAT
.
>> ABSOLUTELY .
>> NEW CABINETS, FIBER TO BRING
IT BACK TO THE CENTRAL
DETECTION WE NEED TO GATHER
DATA TO MAKE IT DATA RESPONSIVE
TO THE TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHICH
WE CONSIDER THE CORE
FOUNDATIONAL ITS STRUCTURE FOR
THE SYSTEM .
>> SO, WHAT ARE WE TESTING?
THERE ARE A LOT OF EXCITING
THINGS THAT WE ARE INTRODUCING.
AGAIN, TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD
DETECT PEDESTRIANS PRESENCE AT
THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION
THAT WE WILL BRING UP THE WALK
WITHOUT PEDESTRIANS HAVING TO
PUSH THE BUTTON.
IT ALSO HAS THE CAPABILITY OF
COUNTING PEDESTRIANS WHICH WE
CAN KIND OF INTEGRATE THE DATA
INTO THE LOGIC OF THE ADOPTIVE
TYPE OF OPERATION WHICH WOULD
HELP US SCALE PRIORITIZATION
WITHIN THE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS
OR CONCEPT OF OPERATIONS WE
WOULD DEVELOP.
THIS TYPE OF DATA CAN BE VERY
USEFUL WHERE WE ANTICIPATE
PEDESTRIAN SEARCH.
FOR INSTANCE, A TRANSIT LINK
LIKE A STADIUM AT UW STADIUM
AND A LINK TO HUSKY STADIUM
STATION AND PEOPLE GETTING OUT
OF THERE AND CONNECTING TO
EITHER TRANSIT OR GETTING INTO
UW THAT IS A SURGE THAT WE FEEL
IS A GOOD PROTOTYPE THAT CAN
ALTER THE OPERATIONAL
PRIORITIZATION INTO WHAT WE
CALL DATA RELATED OPERATION.
FOR BICYCLES, WE HAVE BEEN
OPERATING FOR PAST DETECTION
FOR BIKES BUT WE LIKE WORKING
WITH OTHERS THAT COULD HELP
INTEGRATE CONNECTING BIKES WITH
THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC SIGNAL SO,
THE APP WILL ACT AS A PRESENCE
AND A RESPONSE BACK TO CYCLIST
TO SAY IS YOU ARE DETECTED BY
THE SIGNAL AND YOU WILL GET
YOUR GREEN TIME.
THE UNIQUE IDENTIFIER WOULD
ALSO ALLOW US TO HELP ESTABLISH
PRIORITIZATION, MEANING IF WE
NEED TO HAVE IQ JUMP FOR BIKES
BECAUSE WE WANT TO REDUCE
CONFLICT OR WE WANT TO ADVANCE
OR EXTEND GREEN TIME FOR BIKES
BECAUSE WE THINK THEY NEED IT
OR EVEN CLARENCE OF THE SIGNALS
COVERED IN YELLOW TO ASK THEN
FOR BIKES BECAUSE THE SPEED
WILL BE A LOT LOWER TO TRAVERSE
THE INTERSECTION OF THESE ARE
THE KINDS OF CAPABILITIES THAT
IT WOULD GIVE US.
THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO
AT PLATFORMS IS A SYSTEMWIDE
AND THE OTHER IS MORE ON
INTERSECTION BASE SO WE HAVE TO
POPULATE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEREAS
THE SECOND ONE COULD BE
INTEGRATED FROM A SYSTEM BASED
.
>> THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE ARE
TESTING IS WHAT WE CALL THE
GREEN WAVE PARTNERING WITH FST
AND SUE COORDINATE WITH
DISPATCH TO RESPOND AND THERE
THE PATH FOR EMERGENCY
RESPONDERS AND A ROUTE WERE TO
NEXT MAJOR HOSPITALS FROM THE
UNIVERSITY DISTRICT IN FIRST
HILL SO THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IN
THE CONGESTION INDEX OR
CONGESTION AND MONTLAKE IS
EXTENSIVE SO CLEARING THE PATH
AHEAD OF TIME WILL BE A LOT
MORE HELPFUL AND NAVIGATING THE
RESPONSE TEAM AND THAT WOULD BE
A GOOD OUTCOME .
>> SO A COUPLE FOLLOW-UP
QUESTIONS ON SOME OF THESE.
UNDER THE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT
CAR THESE WHERE ARE THESE
DEPLOYED YET OR ARE THEY COMING
IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS OR A
COUPLE YEARS AWAY?
>> SO, 2020 IS ALL THE TESTING
THAT WILL BE HAPPENING IN AT
THE END OF THE FOURTH QUARTER
OF 2020 WE WILL HAVE THE
EVALUATION AND RESULTS TO SHARE
HERE AND ALSO WITH THE USDOT .
>> SO ON THE BY, IS IT THE KIND
OF THING LIKE AS A BICYCLIST I
WOULD JUST OPEN MY APP WHEN I
LEAVE AND PUT IT IN MY POCKET
AND THEN IS IT LIKE EVERY TIME
I GET IN AND INTERSECTION I'M
HERE .
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT INSTEAD OF
YOU PULLING OUT .
>> THAT COULD BE SOME LITTLE
SIGN YOU COULD DISPLAY .
>> WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE SUPPORT
THAT I JUST LEARNED ABOUT
RECENTLY .
>> IN BALLARD THERE IS ONE ON
EIGHTH AVENUE WHERE THERE IS A
SIGNAL THAT TELLS YOU WHETHER
YOU'VE BEEN DETECTED AS A BIKE
.
>> VISIT AND OUT BASED ONE .
>> PROBLEMS FOR SOME PEOPLE
RIDING BIKES. IN TERMS OF
MAKING SURE YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT
PLACE BEEN DETECTED .
>> I LOVE THE PASSIVE DETECTION.
I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE PHONE-
BASED APPS SYSTEM THAT THERE
ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMART
PHONES BUT THERE'S STILL AN
EQUITY ISSUE THERE AND I ALSO
WANT TO FLAG THAT PUTTING
CYCLISTS AND PEOPLE BIKING TO
DOWNLOAD AN APP TO GET SIGNAL
PRIORITY FEELS LIKE YOU'RE
PUTTING THE ISSUE ON THEM TO
TAKE ACTION RATHER THAN BEING
THOUGHTFUL OF THE NEEDS OF THE
PEOPLE AND THE PASSIVE
DETECTION MAY HAVE ISSUES TO
WORK OUT BUT IT'S A GOOD
SOLUTION AND I'VE USED IT ONE
BIKING WITH MY CHILD AND I
FOUND IT GREAT.
THERE ARE MORE SOLUTIONS TO BE
DETERMINED .
>> WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH THE APP-
BASED DETECTIO IS IT CAN SENT
YOU FROM FARTHER AWAY FROM THE
INTERSECTION AND CAN END UP
ADJUSTING SIGNAL TIMING TO
GRAIN OR IT CAN BE BUILT INTO
THE LOGIC OF NEEDING TO GET TO
THE INTERSECTION TO BEING
DETECTED BUT TO BE A LITTLE
MORE DYNAMIC
>> WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE
CONCERNS .
>> THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS
FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT .
>> SO, WOULD'VE WE BEEN DOING
CURRENTLY FOR THESE?
AND WHERE WE ARE GOING.
SO FOR TRANSIT AND FOR THE LAST
25 YEARS WE'VE BEEN PRIORITIZING
TRANSIT SIGNAL PRIORITY AND
EXTENDING THE GREEN OR TRANSIT
ONLY PHASES.
THIS PARTICULAR THING IS
OCCURRING AT A LOCALIZED
INTERSECTION, NOT NECESSARILY
SYSTEMWIDE BUT, WHERE WE WOULD
LIKE TO TAKE IT IS WE ARE
PARTNERING WITH THE KC METRO
CURRENTLY TO BE ABLE TO INGEST
THEIR REAL-TIME DATA FROM THEIR
BUSES WHICH WOULD HELP US
DEVELOP MORE OF A NETWORK BASE
PRIORITIZATION INSTEAD OF
LOCALIZED CANNOT TO SAY
LOCALIZED IS GOING AWAY BUT
JUST ADDING A LAYER OF NETWORK
BASED PRIORITIZATION SO IF WE
HAVE TO DO DECIDE WHO GETS THE
PRIORITIZATION, WE COULD USE
PASSENGER LOAD CAPACITY, OR
WHETHER IT'S A BART BUS OR SO
FORTH TO KIND OF HELP THE
PRIORITIZATION AMONG THE
TRANSIT SERVICES.
>> SO, PEDESTRIANS I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT MERCER BECAUSE IT
WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR US.
MERCER WAS THE FIRST QUARTER IN
WHICH WE ROLLED OUT OUR
ADAPTIVE CORRIDOR AND, SDOT AND
USERS HAVE ON HAND IN HAND
LEARNED A LOT AND THIS
DEMONSTRATES THE CONSTRAINT IN
TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE
HAVE SO, THE FIRST ATTEMPT OF
ROLLING IT OUT, YIELDED
RELIABLE PERFORMANCE FOR
VEHICLES AND BUSES AND FREIGHTS
. HOWEVER, THE EXPERIENCE FOR
PEDESTRIANS WASN'T FAVORABLE.
SO, WE WORKED HAND-IN-HAND WITH
THE PUBLIC INTEREST PEOPLE AND
ALSO WITH THE VENDOR. WE DIDN'T
HAVE THE SOFTWARE IN ORDER TO
EXTEND THE WALK WERE WHAT WE
CALL HAVE THAT WALK THE REST
AND WALK SO WE WORKED WITH THE
VENDOR TO CONFIGURE SOFTWARE IN
LATE SUMMER OF THIS YEAR.
WE IMPLEMENTED WHAT WE CALL
REST AND WALK AND NOT HAVING TO
PUSH THE BUTTON TO CROSS THE
SIDESTREETS WHILE STILL
MAINTAINING THE RELIABILITY OF
ALL THE USERS OVERALL.
SO, IT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE AND A
GOOD LESSON LEARNED FOR US AND
ALSO HELPS US TO DETERMINE HOW
WE ROLL OUT OUR NEXT ADAPTIVE
PROJECT.
BUT, THE LEARNING AND
EXPERIENCING AND LEARNING MORE
ABOUT IT DOESN'T STOP FOR US,
IT'S A CONTINUOUS EFFORT, BUT,
IT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT
WE'VE LEARNED FROM ROLLING OUT
SOMETHING IN THE AMENDMENTS OR
IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE TAKEN
TO BALANCE THE MODES .
>> SO, I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE
REGULAR PATTERN I GET USED TO
CUT MY COMMUTE ON IS ON DEXTER
ACROSS MERCER AND I PASSED THAT
CHRIST TODAY AND OVER THE YEARS
YOU GET USED TO PATTERN AND
AMAYA PATTERN SHIFTED AND SO
DID MY ABILITY TO INDICATE WHEN
IT WAS MY TURN AND CLEARLY
SOMETHING WAS HAPPENING BUT IT
SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS IN MY MIND.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> SOMETHING IS ALWAYS HAPPENING
.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, THE
NORTH PORTAL, A WHOLE SHIFT OF
TRAFFIC ENTERING THE SYSTEM AND
IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE PATTERN
AND I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR HOW YOU
PRIORITIZE THE STAFF AND WE'VE
HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS
AND WHAT WE CAN MEASURE HAS AN
IMPACT ON THINGS AND IT FEELS
LIKE A BIT OF EVEN IN POLICY, A
PRO-OTO BIASED SO, I NOTICED A
BLOCK SOUTH OF MERCER WHERE THE
OFFRAMP FOR FOLKS GOING
NORTHBOUND ON AURORA GET OFF TO
COME TO SOUTH LAKE UNION OR
LOOP AROUND.
OBVIOUSLY WAS IN THE REST WHEN
THIS WAS AN EXISTING IT WAS
PRETTY LIMITED AND NOW IT'S
SIGNIFICANT AND FEELS LIKE THE
MORE CARS THAT SHOW UP THERE
THE LONGER THE SIGNAL THEY GET
AND ON ONE HAND THAT IS LOGICAL
BUT SAYING IF YOU KEEP BRINGING
MORE CARS WE WILL GIVE YOU MORE
PRIORITY AS OPPOSED TO SAYING
NO NO MORE CARS THERE
IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY
A LOT MORE TRAFFIC ON THE
BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN SOUTH
LAKE UNION BUT I'M CURIOUS HOW
WE SET UP ALGORITHMS AND I
IMAGINE IT'S SOMEWHAT
COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE DON'T
WANT CARS TO BACK UP SO FAR ON
THE FREEWAY BUT THEN IT'S LIKE
IS THERE AN EQUIVALENT OF HOW
MANY BIKES ARE BACKED UP FOR
PEDESTRIANS AND THAT'S NEVER A
CONCERN.
I KNOW YOU INDIVIDUALLY ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BUT IT
FEELS LIKE IT DOESN'T GET THE
SAME WEIGHT ONE IS PRIORITIZED.
.
>> I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A
PLACE WHERE ITS CAN HELP US
BALANCE OUT THOSE THINGS IF WE
WERE TAKING A STATIC APPROACH
SOMETHING LIKE SR 99 HAS PEAK
DEMANDS AND WE ARE SERVING MORE
PEOPLE WILL IN THE TUNNEL AND
WE ARE AT OFF-PEAK TIMES AND
THERE IS REALLY NOT A LOT OF
FLEXIBILITY IN SERVING THE
NEEDS SO YOU TRY TO MAKE YOUR
BEST GUESS AND IT GETS BETTER
AND AS THEY SAID THE INDUSTRY
IS RAPIDLY TRYING TO CATCH UP
BUT AS WE GET BETTER AT
DETECTING EVERYBODY WE CAN
REFINE SOME OF THESE THINGS AND
SO THE INITIAL DEPLOYMENTS HAVE
BEEN VERY A█UTOFOCUS AND WE
ALREADY WRITE OUR RULES THAT
CAN HELP BALANCE OUT THOSE
THINGS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE
SERVING ALL THE TRAFFIC AND ALL
THE PEOPLE USING THAT
INTERSECTION .
>> WHAT IF I FRAME THE QUESTION
DIFFERENTLY.
IF I WANTED TO SEE A 20%
REDUCTION IN VEHICLE TRAVEL IN
SOUTH LAKE UNION, COULD YOU
DEPLOY THE ITS SYSTEM IN A WAY
TO DELIVER ON THE OBJECT OF?
>> I THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT
QUESTION BECAUSE IT SOME OF HOW
PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS IS BASED
ON THE DELAY THEY FACE IF
THEY'RE DRIVING AND SOME OF HOW
THEY MAKE THE DECISIONS IS THE
LAND-USE PATTERN THAT IS
SURVEYING AND THE LARGER
REGIONAL LAND-USE PATTERN.
WE COULD DIAL UP THE DELAY WITH
THE SYSTEM THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT
NOT LEAD TO A SHIFT BUT MIGHT
LEAD TO FRUSTRATION .
>> IN THAT AREA, WHERE THE
STREETCAR IS, THERE'S NOT A LOT
OF BUS PRIORITY AND SO THE
GENERAL CONGESTION MEANS THERE
IS A WAY TO PRIORITIZE IT
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE BUS TRANSIT
AND SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IS
HORRENDOUS AND PERMANENT
PARKING GARAGES THAT WE MESS UP
ON BUT I STILL THINK AND WE
HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE
DATA POINT BUT MERCER WAS
PREDICTED TO CARRY X NUMBER OF
VEHICLES AND WE BLOWN THROUGH
THAT AND IT'S WAY MORE VEHICLES
THAN IT WAS NEVER ANTICIPATED
FOR THEIR AND HOW DO WE REDUCE
THAT CLEARLY IS MAKING PEOPLE
FRUSTRATED AND IT'S NOT A GOOD
THING BUT AT THE SAME TIME A
FOR DOING THAT, WE CAN CROSS
THE STREET AND IF I'M CYCLING I
DON'T HAVE TO WAIT AS LONG AND
I DON'T HAVE TO RIDE THE BUS,
THOSE THINGS DO COME OUT IN THE
BALANCE IT WOULD BE INTERESTING
TO SEE HOW WE MIGHT DEPLOY THIS
DYNAMIC SYSTEM TO DELIVER ON
THE OBJECT GIVES THE OBJECTIVE
IS NOT INCREASED DRIVER
FRUSTRATION, THIS OBJECTIVE IS
WE NEED TO REDUCE CLIMATE
OMISSIONS AND CONGESTION.
SO, I'M INTERESTED IN CREATIVE
THINKING AROUND USING THE
SYSTEM AND I THINK WE MIGHT SEE
MORE PEOPLE MORE EXCITED ABOUT
ITS IF IT FELT LIKE IT WAS
TRYING TO HELP THAT WHEREAS IT
FEELS RIGHT NOW IT'S OFTEN
HURTING THE SUBJECT LIVES .
>> ETIQUETTE THE COMBINATION OF
MULTIPLE THINGS, RECIPE WE ARE
LOOKING AT.
AS WE APPROPRIATOR REALLOCATE
OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR MULTIUSE
AND THE MORE BUS LANES WE HAD
THAT IS WHERE THE ITS COMES IN
AND STABILIZES THINGS AND THE
MODE YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE, WE
CONTINUE TO SHIFT THOSE THINGS
BUT THERE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT, IDLING CARS AND THAT
WHAT YOU ARE OMITTING CONTINUES
TO STRIVE FOR BALANCE FOR ALL.
WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF
PRIORITIZING CERTAIN NOSE THAT
HELPS YOU SUPPORT THESE THINGS,
THE MORE RELIABLE YOUR TRANSIT
SERVICES ARE THE MORE PEOPLE
WILL SHIFT TO THAT.
THE OPERATION IS ONE PIECE OF IT
BUT MAKES IT MORE RELIABLE THAT
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OTHER
PROGRAMS THAT WE NEED TO PAIR
IT WITH. THE BIKES THAT WE NEED
TO BUILD THE FACILITIES TO MAKE
SURE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE TO
GO BIKING AND THE SHIFT IS THE
OPERATION AND THE TOOL THAT
HELPS YOU PRIORITIZE, ALLOCATE
RIGHT-OF-WAY IN A SAFE MANNER
AND ALSO HELP REDUCE CONFLICTS
.
>> THE RECIPE ANALOGY AND THE
NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE GONE
TO THE MIX, I GUESS I'M
INTRIGUED ABOUT THE IDEA THAT
IF WE SET AS A POLICY WOULD
LIKE TO SEE 10% MORE TRIPS TO
LAKE UNION ASKED THE EXPERTS
WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN THE
RECIPE THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT
AND THERE'S PROBABLY A MIX OF
THINGS NEEDED TO DO THAT AND
THESE ARE THE TYPES OF GOALS WE
NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE FOCUS
ON AND USE THESE VARIOUS TOOLS
TO GET DOWN AND RECOGNIZE THAT
WE WERE STILL MISSING A COUPLE
TOOLS AND WHAT ARE THEY AND
LOOK AT THOSE LEVERS ALSO .
>> YES .
>> OKAY SO WE ARE GOING BACK TO
WHERE WERE GOING AND I THINK I
TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE PILOT
PROJECTS THAT WE ARE BRINGING
OUT FOR PEDESTRIANS AND I THINK
WERE VERY EXCITED TO PILOT THE
DETECTION AND I THINK IT'S
GONNA BE A KEY CHANGER FOR HOW
WE OPERATE .
>> THAT WILL BE I'M SORRY,
EARLY 2020 OR?
>> THE REPORT WILL BE AVAILABLE
IN THE LAST ORDER .
>> PEOPLE GET IT, I GUESS IT
WOULD BE HARD TO EXPERIENCE I'M
BEING DETECTED BUT WHEN WILL
THEY BE DEPLOYED ON THE STREET?
>>
>> IS IT JUST A HANDFUL?
>> YES, HANDFUL.
MONTLAKE AND PACIFIC WITH THE
LINK IS ONE OF THEM .
>> EXCITING, WILL PUT IT ON MY
CALENDAR.
>> ALL RIGHT
>> WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP
POLICIES I THINK THE LEADING
PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL POLICY THAT
WE JUST IMPLEMENTED IN MAY, WE
CONTINUED TO IMPLEMENT THOSE AS
WE OPTIMIZE CORE DOORS, RANIER
IS ONE OF THEM THAT WE HAVE
KIND OF INTEGRATED AND WE
CONTINUE TO TOUCH BASE WITH
OTHER CITIES AS WELL THAT ARE
TESTING TECHNOLOGY AND KEEP THE
COMMUNICATION FLOWING TO LEARN
MORE FROM THEM EXPECT I'VE NOT
BEEN ON THE RANIER CORRIDOR IN
A WHILE SO ARE THE INDICATORS
IN PLACE ALONG THE WHOLE
CORRIDOR?
>> WHERE WE IMPLEMENTED THE BUS
LANES ON THE SOUTHERN END,
HENDERSON TO THE NORTHERN END .
>> SO RAINIER BEACH?
>> NORTH OF COLUMBIA CITY, I
CAN'T REMEMBER THE SIDE STREET
BUT NORTH OF COLUMBIA CITY
>> CYCLISTS, WE'VE BEEN
EXPERIMENTING WITH THE VIDEO
LOOP IN THE NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT
WE TESTED IN BALLARD THAT GIVES
YOU A UNIQUE IDENTIFIER TO BE
RECOGNIZED AS A BITE WHICH IS
WHAT WE NEED TO KIND OF MOVE
FORWARD WITH.
IT'S SIMPLY WHEN WE HAVE BIKE
FACILITIES AND TWO-WAY
FACILITIES, THE TECHNOLOGIES WE
AND LEVERAGING THE VIDEO
DETECTORS WORKED TO IDENTIFY BY
AS A BITE BUT HOWEVER, IN MIXED-
USE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE A
HARD TIME DETECT THING BIKES IS
BIKES WILL USE THE TECHNOLOGY.
HENCE, WHY WE ARE GOING TO THE
BASE, THE APP BASE I DO HEAR
YOUR CONCERNS BUT IT ALSO GIVES
TRAVEL TIME WHICH WE'VE NEVER
BEEN ABLE TO GET, ORIGIN
DESTINATION, WHERE THE BIKE IS
MOVING AND WHERE WE CAN USE THE
DATA TO HELP BUILD THE NEW
FACILITY WHERE WE NEED TO BUILD
MORE FOR THE LADIES AND THEN
GET WITH THE BIKE MASTER PLAN
THEN, ALSO GETTING DATA AND
TRAVEL TIME THAT IT WOULD BE
REALLY COOL TO GET BIKES TRAVEL
TIME TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE
WITH THEIR BIKE TIME WILL BE
DEPENDING ON FITNESS OR THE
AVERAGE.
>> OKAY.
I'VE GOT TO ASK THE
SURVEILLANCE QUESTION I KNOW
THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT
WOULD GO THROUGH AND SIR .
>> IT IS OPTING AND WE ARE
GOING TO THE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE CHECKLIST TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE ADHERING TO ALL OF
THE POLICIES BUT, IT IS AN OPT
IN .
>> OKAY .
>> I THINK THAT TO THE POINT
THAT YOU ALL MADE ABOUT THE
WORLD BUS, IT WOULD BE REALLY
IMPORTANT AND WE WOULD WANT A
LOT OF PEOPLE TO OFF TO BE AS
TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE ABOUT
HOW THE DATA WOULD BE USED
WHICH I WOULD EXPECT IT WOULD
BE TO MAKE SURE IT'S LIVING UP
TO ALL THE STANDARD SO THAT WE
GET ROBUST ANTICIPATION AND THE
TRAVEL BENEFIT .
>> AGREED .
>> YES. SO, JUST A QUICK
TIMELINE OF WHAT WE BEEN DOING
FOR PET AND BIKE ACTION THUS
FAR.
WE HAVE A GREENWAY CROSSING AND
SUPPORTING POLICY, WHERE WE
BUILT SIGNALS FOR GREENWAY
CROSSING, AURORA 92nd IS ONE
IDEA WHERE WE PUT IN A GREENWAY
PASSING SIGNAL AND UPSTREAM WE
HAD AN INTERSECTION WHERE WE
HAD ACCIDENT PROBLEMS OR
COLLISION PROBLEMS IN WHICH
ADDING THE SIGNAL HAD KIND OF
MINIMIZED OR REDUCED THE
ACCIDENT RE-WE HELP SIGNAL A
ONE-ON-ONE WORKSHOP WHICH WE
LIKE TO DO MORE WHICH YOU
ATTENDED, IT WAS A GOOD WORKSHOP
TO GET PEOPLE FULL INSIDE OF
WHAT IT TAKE TO DESIGN THE
SIGNAL AND WHAT ARE THE
CHALLENGES AND THE BENEFITS WE
CAN LEVERAGE AS WE SHAPE OUR
MULTIMODAL UP RATION VISION WE
TALKED ABOUT THE WALK
IMPLEMENTED IN JULY AND AUGUST
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE REPORT.
WE CONTINUE TO WANT TO ACCESS
AND PROVIDE SOME SORT OF
ADVISORY TEAM WITH EXIST THE
MODAL PLANS OR SOMETHING TO
START ENGAGING PEOPLE ON
OPERATION FOR WHAT IT MEANS,
POLICY AND TECHNOLOGY TO THE
CHALLENGES WE FACE AND SO WE
ARE COLLABORATIVELY RESPONDING
AT RESOLVING ISSUES IT WOULD BE
UNDERWAY FOR 2020 .
>> IF I HAD BEEN PATIENT YOU
ANSWERED ALL MY TIMING
QUESTIONS ON THE TIMELINE .
>> NO WORRIES.
I DO WANT TO COMMENT AND I
APPRECIATE THE ADVISORY GROUP
AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT
PLACE TO GET FEEDBACK. IT'S
ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP THE
CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION OPEN
AMONGST STRONG ADVOCATES THAT
REPRESENT BROADER COMMUNITIES
AND OUR VOICE ON WHAT IS WORKING
SO THE CLOSER AND MORE INFORMED
THEY CAN BE AND THE EXPERTISE
THEY CAN BRING TO THE PROCESS
IN BOTH DIRECTIONS IS HELP. I
HOPE THAT WORK CONTINUES .
>> TO WOULD BE ON THE
OPERATIONAL ADVISORY GROUP THAT
FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY ENGAGED
ON OTHER BOARDS OR WHAT'S THE
PROCESS OF SELECT WHO IS
PARTICIPATING?
>> THAT IS SOMETHING WE STILL
DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO A
NURSE TILL WORKING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE
IN TERMS OF HOW TO ESTABLISH
THAT.
I THINK WHAT PROVED CHALLENGING
IN SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE WERE
GETTING ON MERCER AND THE
SIGNALS 101 GROUP WAS THAT IT
WAS A LITTLE BIT AD HOC WHO
COULD ENGAGE WITH US AND HOW WE
FEEL LIKE THERE'S A BENEFIT TO
FORMALIZING THAT MORE SO IT'S
MORE CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT AND
OPEN TO EVERYBODY TO
PARTICIPATE IN THAT .
>> IF IT WORKED OUT WE WOULD
LOVE TO HELP WITH SOME
PERSPECTIVE LIVE WITH THAT AS
WELL IF YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT
>> OKAY FREIGHT IS ALSO ANOTHER
MODE EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF THE
OPERATIONAL ENHANCE GEARED FOR
THE VEHICLE GET TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF IT BUT THERE'S A
NEED TO IDENTIFY THEM AND THEY
HAVE'S PACIFIC IN TERMS OF
NEEDING TO DETECT TRACKS AND
CLEARANCE TIME THROUGH AN
INTERSECTION THAT'S NOT THE
SAME STARTING TIME, IT'S A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AROUND THE
PORT FACILITY AND I THINK
THERE'S A NEED, THE TRAIN
CROSSING IS A BIG CHALLENGE FOR
THOSE ACCESSING FREIGHT FOR THE
PORT OF SEATTLE FACILITIES.
WE'VE TESTED AND THEY HAVE SOME
SORT OF PREDICTION AND HOW LONG
THE CLOSURE RAILROAD CROSSING
WOULD BE, THE SPEED OF THE
TRAIN AND WHEN IT WOULD ARRIVE
AND SO FORTH SO THE TOOL WILL
BE HELP FOR FREIGHT BUT ALSO
HELPFUL FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
KIND OF SHARE THEIR CONCERN OF
SPECIFIC FIRE STATIONS AROUND
THE AREA THAT HAD A HARD TIME
RESPONDING .
>> IT COULD BE THIRD-PARTY DATA
API AS WELL .
>> THE STUFF I READ HERE ON
FREIGHT IS LITERALLY JUST ABOUT
POLICIES AND CORRIDORS, DO WE
HAVE FREIGHT DETECTION ABILITY?
>> NOT YET .
>> OKAY .
>> THERE'S STILL MORE DEFINING
CORRIDORS TO MAKE THEM AS
OPTIMAL AS POSSIBLE .
>> SO I WILL TURN IT TO JASON
TO TALK ABOUT MEASUREMENT .
>> OKAY, JASON HERE AT .
>> SO I HELP MANAGE THE ACTIVE
OPERATION IN THIS CENTER ALONG
WITH THE DATA COLLECTION AND I
HAVE SEVERAL SLIDES TO TALK
ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY WE USE AND
HOW WE COLLABORATE WITH
PARTNERS AND WHAT WE ARE
GETTING BACK FROM A DATA
PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE ABILITY
TO HEAR TRAFFIC IMPACT
INCIDENTS.
WE HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF IN
THE OPERATIONS AND WORKING 24
HOURS A DAY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK
TO KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING IN
SEATTLE WITH A VARIETY OF
METHODS TO UNDERSTAND CURRENT
CONDITIONS ON OUR STREETS
LISTENING TO A POLICE SCANNER
AND LOOKING AT REAL-TIME FEEDS
FROM COMPUTER DISPATCH FROM
POLICE AND FIRE USING TRAFFIC
CAMERAS AND WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE
WAS.TRAFFIC CENTER AND
MONITORING SOCIAL AND
TRADITIONAL MEDIA LEARNING ABOUT
THE INCIDENTS IMPACTING OUR
ROADWAYS AND HELP PARTICIPATE
IN A COORDINATED EFFORT TO THEM
AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. THAT
ORDINATION WORKS WITH POLICE
AND FIRE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM
THEM ABOUT SUSPECTED INCIDENTS
AND RIGHTS AS A RESPONSE. WE
MAY IMPLEMENT DETOUR ROUTES TO
HELP MOVE TRAFFIC AROUND LONG-
TERM EVENTS OR MODIFY TRAFFIC
SIGNAL TIMING TO MOVE PEOPLE IF
THERE IS A TRAFFIC IMPACTING
EVENT IN SEATTLE.
WE ALSO COMMUNICATE WITH THE
PUBLIC USING A VARIETY OF TOOLS
IN PLACE MESSAGES ON LARGE
OVERHEAD SIGNS THAT WE HAVE A
HEALTHY SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWING
ON TWITTER THANKS TO THE
OPERATORS IN OUR CENTER.
WE PUT REAL-TIME INCIDENT
INFORMATION ON OUR TRAVEL
INFORMATION MAP WEBSITE AND OF
COURSE WE COMMUNICATE WITH MANY
INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS USING
BOTH EMAIL AND TEXT. WE FINALLY
HAVE A RESPONSE TEAM, TRUCKS
ROAMING THE CITY AND ABLE TO
PUSH STALLED VEHICLES OFF THE
SIDE OF THE ROTOR GIVE THEM
GAS, GIVE THEM A JUMP OR IF
THERE'S A LARGER TRAFFIC
IMPACTING EVENT THEY COULD BE
BOOTS ON THE GROUND PRESENCE
PROVIDING INFORMATION TO HELP
US WITH OUR RESPONSE TO THOSE
INCIDENTS.
SO HERE IS SOME DATA.
SO THIS SHOWS OUR VERIFIED
INCIDENTS IN 2018 AND THUS FAR
IN 2019.
THE VERIFIED INCIDENT CONSISTS
OF SOMETHING OBSERVED IN THE
OPERATIONS CENTER BY CAMERA OR
VERIFIED BY THE SRT STAFF IN
PERSON.
SO, THE DURATION IS FROM ONE
ITS FIRST LOG IN 911 TO THE
TIME IT'S CLEARED.
EVERY ACTIVITY IS TRACKED IN A
DATABASE THAT WE KEEP IN THE
OPERATIONS CENTER AND WE TRACK
SINGLE VEHICLE COLLISIONS,
MULTI VEHICLE COLLISIONS AND
DISABLED VEHICLES, SO REFER TO
THE CHART THERE ARE MASSIVE
SPECS FOR SINGLE OCCUPANCY
SINGLE VEHICLE COLLISIONS.
SO OF COURSE I DRILLED INTO THAT
WITH DATA FOLKS AND IT SEEMS
LIKE THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS
COULD INVOLVE A SINGLE CAR
VERSUS A HOLE OR SOMETHING THAT
IS ROLLED OVER OR CAR VERSUS A
PEDESTRIAN OR CAR VERSUS BIKE,
THIS COULD CREATE OUTLIERS AND
ADDITIONALLY THERE IS DATA THAT
SUGGESTS WE HAVE SINGLE
OCCUPANCY OR TEASE ME A SINGLE
VEHICLE COULD BE A BUS WITH
CALLED LARGER VEHICLES
REQUIRING A SPECIAL TYPE OF TOE
BE DISPATCHED IN THESE ALL KIND
OF WILL PRODUCE THESE TYPE OF
MASSIVE SPIKES YOU SEE IN THAT
TYPE OF INCIDENT COMPARED TO A
MULTIVEHICLE COLLISION IN THE
STALLED VEHICLE.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IF YOU
LOOK AT THE TRIM LINE BEHIND IT
THE DOTTED LINES REPLACE ALL
THE DATA INTO EXCEL AND IT SHOWS
THAT THERE IS A SORT OF GRADUAL
DECREASE IN THE INCIDENT
DURATION FOR SINGLE VEHICLES
AND THE OTHERS REMAIN STEADY
DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE MOVED
TO 24/7 OPERATION IN OCTOBER
2018. OTHER DATA SUPPORTS THE
FACT THAT THOSE TYPES OF
INCIDENTS THAT ARE OVERNIGHT
THAT THEY TAKE LONGER TO BE
RESPONDED TO DUE TO THE FACT
THAT THERE ARE FEWER FOLKS OUT
THERE ON THE ROAD ABLE TO HELP
FOLKS OUT, WE SEE THIS AS A
SUCCESS THAT WERE ABLE TO
MANAGE AND KEEP THE INCIDENT
DURATION PRETTY STABLE DESPITE
THE FACT THAT WE ARE TRACKING
INCIDENTS OCCURRING OVERNIGHT
AND THOSE DO HAVE A LONGER
DURATION TO THE COORDINATION
WITH OUR PARTNERS LIKE THE
STATE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND
POLICE.
>> THE SPIKES REALLY THROW ME
OFF A BIT, I IMAGINE I MEAN
OTHER HUNDREDS OF SINGLE
VEHICLE INCIDENTS PER MONTH OR
A HANDFUL?
>> WE HAVE DATE ON THE VOLUME
YOU BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE
FEWER AND BACK TO HERE THERE
WERE ALSO WEATHER EVENTS THAT
CONTRIBUTE TO THE SPIKES OF
FEBRUARY, THE SNOW WE
EXPERIENCED SO IT'S REALLY A
FEW OUTLIERS THAT CAN SKEW THE
DATA.
>> THE FEBRUARY SNOW BUT
FEBRUARY 2 YEARS AGO WAS
DIFFERENT.
CAN YOU GO FORWARD ONE .
>> WE HAVE TO MONITOR AND
VERIFY INCIDENTS ADDING TO THE
NUMBER OF INCIDENTS WHERE
TRACKING AND OF COURSE, WE
CONTINUE TO GROW IN POPULATION
DUE TO JOBS WITH SIMPLY MORE
TRAVELERS ON THE ROADS THAT
COULD INCREASE THE POSSIBILITY
OF TRAFFIC AND OTHER INCIDENTS
OCCURRING .
>> AND FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE I
THINK IT'S TIME TO CLEAR THE
INCIDENT OUT OF THE ROADWAY TO
GET TRAFFIC AND OPERATIONS BACK
TO NORMAL AND SO, AS JASON SAID
SOME OF THE SEVERITY OF THOSE
INCIDENTS COULD AFFECT THAT AND
ALSO, JUST FOR SOMETHING JASON
SAID, THIS IS NOT EVERY TRAFFIC
INCIDENT IN THE CITY THESE ARE
THE ONES THAT CAN BE VERIFIED
FROM BEGINNING TO END THROUGH
THE TOC .
>> THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS
THAT HAPPEN IN OTHER PLACES
THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE DATA
SET BUT THIS IS LIKE THE LIGHT,
HOW ARE WE DOING IN TERMS OF
OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE THOSE
INCIDENTS.
>> SO, JUST TO CONCLUDE, I AM
PERSONALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING
THE OPERATION TO BE THE
LANGUAGE OF EVERYONE AND I WANT
THE OPERATION TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
AND IT WOULD BE KIND OF NICE TO
KIND OF HAVE COMMUNICATION IN
THE PAST TO TALK ABOUT
OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND ISSUES
AND TO BE CONTINUOUS. WE'VE
TALKED ABOUT THE PILOTS AND
STUFF AND WE ARE EXCITED, 2020
IS AN EXCITING YEAR FOR US I
THINK WITH THE OUTCOME WITH ALL
OF THE ITEMS WE ARE TESTING
WHICH WOULD HELP US SHAPE HOW
WE MOVE FORWARD WITH MULTIMODAL
VIEWS AND UMBRELLA TECHNOLOGY,
SUPPORT AND INTEGRITY TO HOW WE
MOVE THE PROGRAM FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU ALL.
I WILL SAY TO WALL THAT THE
FISH TRUCK SCALE INCIDENT, THAT
IS PARTICULARLY ONE THAT SAM
GETS TO LIVE THROUGH THAT
VICARIOUSLY TO THE REST OF US,
WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MAJOR
INCIDENTS AND AT LEAST
ANECDOTALLY IT FEELS LIKE THE
RESPONSE TO THOSE ARE CLEARING
A LOT BETTER.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE DATA IS
THINGS THAT ARE BIG ENOUGH TO
GET ON THE NEWS BECAUSE THEY
ARE MORE DAY TO DAY STUFF CRITIC
THE IMPORTANT TO MOVE THE TIMES
DOWN BUT IT DOES FEEL THAT THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT EVENTS
UNFORTUNATELY CONTINUE TO
HAPPEN AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE
WORK TO COORDINATE THE EFFORTS
AND RESPONSES SEEMS TO BE DOING
PRETTY GOOD AND I APPRECIATE
THAT EFFORT AS WELL .
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME,
I'M JUST TRYING OUT OTHER
QUESTIONS I GUESS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR, I AM
REALLY INTERESTED IN AND I
THINK SAM MADE A COMMENT, THE
SYSTEM DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
ON ITS OWN, IT DOES WHAT WE
TELL IT TO DO AND FIGURE OUT
HOW WE ARE ASKED TO DO THINGS
AND I RELEASE THERE IS INTEREST
THERE WAS STRONG POLICIES
TAKING INTO THE CITY AND I MAY
WORK TO CLARIFY SOME OF THAT
AND TRY TO GET OUTCOMES BETTER
FOR SOME THAT I WANT TO
PRIORITIZE AND LOOK FORWARD TO
YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON THAT .
>> AND I THINK, THERE ARE
LEADERS IN THE COUNTRY THINKING
ABOUT HOW TO GET THINGS THAT
THE INDUSTRY MAY NOT BE AT
PRODUCING AND HOW WE THINK
ABOUT HOW TO ADAPT TO THE
TECHNOLOGY TO OUR NEEDS AS A
CITY.
JUST AT THE NATIONAL ITS
CONFERENCE, THERE ARE OTHER
CITIES WE CAN WORK AT IN
COALITION TO TRY TO PUSH THE
INDUSTRY BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN
TRADITIONALLY.
I ALSO THINK THAT ITS REALLY
HELPS US MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF
INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED TO BUILD
IN A LOT OF WAYS BY MANAGING IT
AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE
DEALING WITH IF EVERYONE CAN
HELP US SQUEEZE THE MOST OUT OF
WHAT WE HAVE AND NOT BUILD OUR
PARKING LOT FOR THE DAY AFTER
THANKSGIVING THE MAXIMUM DEMAND
TO KEEP OURSELVES AND SAY OH WE
ARE DOING FINE BECAUSE WE ARE
ALWAYS PLANNING FOR THE WORST-
CASE SCENARIO.
ITS REALLY HELPS US MANAGE THE
EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY TO MEET
DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEMANDS AT
DIFFERENT TIMES .
>> THANK YOU ALL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS .
>> ALL RIGHT .
>> THERE IS STILL SOME DAYLIGHT
OUT THERE .
>> LET'S GO .
>> SHORT VERSION .
>> COUNTS OF THE 1196 FIGHT
THREE, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
THE CITY'S TRAFFIC CODE .
>> HELLO .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS
RICHARD GREEN AND WITH A LOT OF
APARTMENT IN ONE OF THE THINGS
I DO EVERY YEAR IS REVIEW
LEGISLATION IN THE LEGISLATURE
TO SEE HOW IT AFFECTS THE
TRAFFIC CODE BECAUSE THE STATE
HAS A TRAFFIC CODE AND WE HAVE
A TRAFFIC CODE AND THE LIE IS
THAT THEY HAVE TO BE UNIFORM SO
WHEN THE STATE LEGISLATURE
AMENDED THE STATUTE THAT HAS A
CORRESPONDING ORDINANCE, WE
HAVE TO AMEND OUR ORDINANCE. SO
WHAT THE ORDINANCE DOES IS SORT
OF INCORPORATE THE CHANGES MADE
BY THE 2019 LEGISLATURE.
I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE
IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER ORDINANCE
THAT DOES THE SAME THING BUT
THIS ORDINANCE AND CHANGES
BECOME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
AND THE OTHER ORDINANCES ARE
CHANGES TO BECOME EFFECTIVE
JANUARY 1 OF NEXT YEAR .
>> IS THAT THE NEXT ONE ON HERE
#>> NO THAT WAS ONE PRESENTED
AND WE WILL PROBABLY CONSIDER
IT LATER IN THE YEAR .
>> .
>> IS ADDITIONAL PENALTY FOR
PEOPLE CAUGHT DRIVING IN THE
HOV LANE .
>> IT ALLOWS A MOTORIZED FIT
SCHOOL OR TO HAVE THREE WHEELS
AND SET OF TWO AND ELIMINATES
THE ARE MEANT TO HAVE HANDLEBARS
. WHAT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT IS IF
YOU TAKE OFF THE HANDLEBARS
DOESN'T THAT MAKE IT A
SKATEBOARD?
>> AND THE LAST THING OF GREAT
SIGNIFICANCE AS IT REQUIRES
THAT STOPLIGHTS ON A COMMERCIAL
TRUCK BE READING COLOR. I NEVER
REALIZED THEY COULD BE ANY
OTHER COLOR BUT APPARENTLY SO .
>> SOME THINGS TAKE NOTICE OF .
>> I HAVE TALKED TO CENTRAL
STAFF ABOUT THIS BUT THERE IS
SOMETHING CALLED THE MODEL
TRAFFIC ORDINANCE THAT WE COULD
ADOPT AND ELIMINATE ALL OF
THIS.
ESSENTIALLY BUT NEVERTHELESS IT
SOMETHING THE COUNCIL MIGHT
CONSIDER AT SOME POINT WHATEVER
THE STATE DOES IS THE ORDINANCE
BE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING
I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU OUT
OF A JOB AT THERE'S A MORE
EFFICIENT WAY TO DO'S AND IF
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO
FLEXIBILITY FOR US TO DO
SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN IT
WOULD SEEM LOGICAL AND IF THERE
ARE AREAS WHERE WE WANT TO GO
FURTHER THAN THIS DATE DOES I
COULD SEE WHAT WE WOULD WANT
OUR OWN BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO
REVIEW THE AND SEE WHAT MAKES
SENSE AND FORWARD EXPECT I WILL
GO AHEAD AND MOVE IN SECOND THE
COUNSEL BILL I HAVE THREE AND I
WILL VOTE YES ON THE AND THAT
WILL GO TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON
MONDAY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING THE NEXT ROUND OF
ORDINANCE TAKE AFFECT .
>> THANK YOU .
>> ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 11 .
>> I DON'T NEED TO READ THE
SHORT VERSION, THE WHOLE THING
.
>> COUNTS OF THE 119 618, THE
ORDINANCE RELATING TO CITY
STREETS, CHANGING THE NAME OF
THE PORTION OF NORTHWEST 54th
STREET, GENERALLY LOCATED
BETWEEN NORTH WEST MARKET
STREET AND ONE BLOCK SOUTHWEST
AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE BALLARD
LOCKS, TO NORTHWEST A LOCKS
PLACE AND SUPERSEDING ANY OTHER
PRYING ORDINANCE TO THE ACCENT
IN CONSIST DIDN'T .
>> MY NAME IS MATT BEAULIEU
WITH SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION.
I WILL ENDEAVOR TO FOLLOW THE
TIMELY SENT FORWARD THAT YOU
SENT TO 10 SLIDE PRESENTATION
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
GIVE THE LOCKS IT'S DUE. JUMP
RIGHT IN .
>> WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK
ABOUT A SECTION OF ROADWAY,
PARTICULARLY NORTHWEST I CAN'T
EVEN SPEAK .
>> WERE TALKING ABOUT A STREET
NAME CHANGE FOR WHAT IS
CURRENTLY NORTHWEST 54th
STREET.
THIS IS FOCUSED ON A SAFETY
BENEFIT AND WE LOOKED AT
RENAMING THESE FOR FIRST
RESPONDERS WHO HAVE TO RESPOND
TO AN EVENT TO WHETHER I'VE
CALLED FOR ASSISTANT DUE TO A
MEDICAL EMERGENCY OR OTHER
NEEDS.
WE ARE GONNA NEED A LITTLE MORE
DETAIL BUT I WILL BE MORE BRIEF
AS WE MOVE ALONG.
THIS BOILS DOWN TO NAMING A
STREET TO PROVIDE CLARITY.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS
AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARKET
AND NORTHWEST 54th.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN DOWNTOWN
BOTHERED.
IF YOU END UP A MILE AWAY FROM
WHERE YOU INTEND TO BE AND NO
ONE IS HAPPY.
SO, THIS IS ABOUT TRYING TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE RENAME THE
UNIQUE INTERSECTION WHEN I CALL
FOR HELP IS ONLY ONE PLACE IN
THE AMBULANCE CAN COME TO WHERE
IT NEEDS TO.
.
>> THIS IS BASICALLY AS I
MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT
EMERGENCY RESPONSE AS WELL AS
CLARITY.
IN THIS CASE WE HAVE TWO
ADJACENT PARCELS THAT ARE
REALLY RELEVANT.
THERE'S ONE ADDRESS THAT
HAPPENS TO BE THE LOCKS CAFC.
THE LOCKS ARE ALSO IRRELEVANT
TOURIST DESTINATION AND THIS IS
A WELL-KNOWN LOCATION, SO IF
YOU SAY THE LOCKS PEOPLE IN
BALLARD NO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A NAME
RELEVANT TO THE COMMUNITY
EXPERIENCE ALREADY .
>> PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS TO
ESSENTIALLY TOUCHBASE WITH THE
AFFECTED PARCELS AS WELL AS WE
SENT 200 OTHER PEOPLE
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS IS WHAT
IS GOING TO CHANGE AND WE HEARD
BACK NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
OF CONCERN.
FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS SILENCE
AND WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF,
REALLY?
FROM FOLKS AND WHAT WE HEARD
FROM ADJACENT PARCELS WAS A MIX
OF THIS THIS HELPS PEOPLE GET
HELP SOON OR THAT IS GREAT IT'S
INCONVENIENT AS A BUSINESS
OWNER TO HAVE YOUR ADDRESS
CHANGED BUT THERE WAS
ACCEPTANCE THAT THIS WAS A
BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY IN
PARTICULAR TO KEEP NEED HELP IN
A TIMELY MANNER .
>> SO, IN THE INTEREST OF BEING
BRIEF, MY HOPE IS THAT YOU WILL
PASS THIS ALONG FOR A VOTE AND
IF IT IS SUCCESSFULLY PASSED
AFTER SIGNED INTO LAW, 30 DAYS
FROM THAT POINT THE STREET NAME
WOULD CHANGE EXPECT AND THE
BUSINESSES IN THE POST OFFICE
AND ALL OF THE STUFF THAT FALLS
OUT OF THAT AND I IMAGINE
PEOPLE WILL WILL CHANGE
BUSINESS CARDS AND WEBSITES AND
TYPES OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE
IMPACTED ADDRESSEE AT THE LOCKS
CAFC AS WELL AS AT THE LOCKS
AND THEY ARE BOTH AWARE THAT WE
ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO
YOU TODAY .
>> IT'S NICE THEY BOTH HAVE
LOCKS IN YOUR NAME SO IT'S
CONSISTENCY THEY WOULD
APPRECIATE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE
HIGHLIGHTING THE REASONING FOR
THIS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT
AND RECOGNIZING WERE BOTH THE
INTERSECTIONS ARE, I ASSUME THE
OTHER IS WHERE IT ADDS UP TO A
LACROSSE 54th AND THAT IS
CRITICAL IN THIS IS GREAT WORK.
I WILL RECOMMEND TO MY
COLLEAGUES HERE I WILL MOVE IN
SECOND THIS LEGISLATION AND I
WILL VOTE YES ON AND WE WILL
SEND IT TO FULL COUNCIL ON
MONDAY.
THANK YOU .
>> ALL RIGHT, KELLY.
THERE'S NO REASON TO HANG
AROUND ANY LONGER.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN
THE MEETING .
>> ALL RIGHT.