>>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE,
WELCOME TO THE SEATTLE
SUSTAINABILITY AND
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, MY
NAME IS MIKE O'BRIEN, I AM THE
CHAIR, TALKING ABOUT THE
LEAKING SECTION, WE ARE THE
ELECTED LEADERS GROUP FOR THAT,
TODAY IS FRIDAY, FAMILY FIRST,
2019, IT IS ABOUT 9:35 AM, I'M
GOING TO HIT IT OFF TO MY
COCHAIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
LEAD THE GROUP, JOE McDERMOTT.
>>> I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME
EVERYONE TO THE FIFTH ELECTED
GROUP, FOR THE WESTFIELD AND
BALLARD LINK LIGHT RAIL
EXTENSIONS, A SELECT GROUP OF
TRANSIT BOARD MEMBERS, SEATTLE
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, PORT OF
SEATTLE, AND HABS TO BE A
SPECIAL MEETING, OF THE CITY
COUNCILS SUSTAINABILITY AND
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, I AM
JOE McDERMOTT WITH THE KING
COUNTY COUNCIL, COCHAIRING, FOR
OVER A YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN
MEETING TO DEVELOP
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE SOUND
TRANSIT BOARD, FOR DATA
REGARDING ALIGNMENT OF
ALTERNATIVES -- ALIGNMENT
ALTERNATIVES WITH THE
FEASIBILITY, WE COULD IT OFF
WITH EARLY SCOPING, AT THE
BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR, WHERE
SOUND TRANSIT COLLECTED SEVERAL
IDEAS FROM AGENCIES, AND
INDIVIDUALS ABOUT WHAT THEY
WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOUND TRANSIT
STUDY FOR THE COMING PHASES,
THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, INPUT
HAS INFORMED WHAT THE ENGINEERS
AND PLANNERS HAVE STUDIED AND
EVALUATED, DURING THE
ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
WE ARE GETTING CLOSER TO MAKING
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT TO
STUDY FURTHER ON THE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT,
WHICH STARTS LATER THIS YEAR, A
LOT MORE WORK AS GONE INTO
GETTING US TO THIS POINT, MORE
WORK TO DO AS WE PREPARE FOR
SCOPING, A CRITICAL PERIOD FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT, WHEN HE GETS
APPROVAL FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, IT ENTERS A
SCOPING., PERHAPS AS EARLY AS
THIS MONTH, AND IT IS VITAL
THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
WEIGH IN DURING THAT 30 DAY
PERIOD, EVEN IF YOU HAVE
ALREADY PROVIDED COMMENTS
BEFORE.
SOUND TRANSIT WILL GATHER THE
COMMENTS, WHICH WILL MAKE US --
HELP US MAKE THE FINAL
FRAGMENTATION, WE WILL BE
MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR
DECISIONS TODAY, THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HEAR FROM
YOU, THE PUBLIC, AND LEARN ABOUT
RECENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
ACTIVITIES, AND ALSO MORE
INFORMATION AND REVIEW ABOUT
THE LEVEL III ALTERNATIVES AND
REVIEW THE FURTHER ANALYSIS
THAT SOUND TRANSIT STAFF HAS
BEEN CONDUCTING.
I AM EAGER TO DEKE -- DIG INTO
THE DETAILS, BUT FIRST I WILL
TURNED OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER
O'BRIEN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>> I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE
THIS CRITICAL PHASE, AN
IMPORTANT TIME IN THE PHASING
OF THIS PROJECT, THE SCOPING
PERIOD, WE ENTER THAT, TOGETHER
ADDITIONAL INPUT ON THE WORK
THAT HAS BEEN DONE THIS FAR,
AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR
ORGANIZATIONS, MORE COMMENTS
INTO THE SCOPING.
TO HELP SHAPE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT,
THERE WILL BE MANY WAYS TO
ENGAGE IN THAT PERIOD, OPEN
HOUSE, COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS,
ONLINE OPEN HOUSE, EMAILS AND
PHONE MESSAGES, BUT WE WANT TO
HEAR FROM FOLKS DURING THIS
PERIOD.
AS WE CONTINUE TO GATHER INPUT
FROM AGENCIES IN COMMUNITIES,
WE WILL WEIGH THE CHALLENGES
AND OPPORTUNITIES, AND WHAT TO
CARRY FORWARD THROUGH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.
>>> I WANT TO THANK ALL THE
FOLKS THAT HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED
SO FAR, IT HAS BEEN REASSURING
TO SEE EVERYONE HAVING A LONG
AND -- LONG-LASTING IMPACT ON
THE CITY AND REGION.
THE MEMBERS OF THE STAKEHOLDER
ADVISORY GROUP, WHO HAVE SPENT
MANY HOURS WITH SOUND TRANSIT
STAFF AND IN THE COMMUNITIES,
ASKING TOUGH QUESTIONS AND
HELPING SHAPE THIS PROJECT AND
THE WORK WE DO HERE AS THE
ELECTED LEADERSHIP GROUP.
>>> ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE
IMPORTANT WORK THE CITY AND
SOUND TRANSIT HAVE DONE THROUGH
THE RACIALLY -- RACIAL EQUITY
TOOLKIT, I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF
THAT, THE OUTCOMES THAT WE ARE
MOVING TOWARDS, SUCH AS
ENHANCING MOBILITY, AXIS FOR
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND LOW-
INCOME POPULATIONS, CREATING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT THAT BENEFIT
COMMITTEES OF COLOR,
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS, ON
LOW INCOME POPULATIONS, AND
MEANINGFULLY INVOLVING
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND LOW
INCOME POPULATIONS IN THIS
PROJECT.
THERE IS A LOT MORE WORK TO BE
DONE, I AM PROUD OF WHERE WE
ARE TODAY, AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO THE CONTINUING WORK ON THE
RACIAL EQUITY TOOLKIT AS WE
MOVE FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO HANDED OVER TO
DON BOLAN, THE DIRECTOR OF
PROJECT DEVELOPMENT FOR A FEW
MORE WORDS.
DONE?
>> THANK YOU, AND ON I WOULD
JUST LIKE TO WELCOME THE
SUSTAINED GROUP OF ELECTED
OFFICIALS, AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR EFFORTS TO HELP SOUND
TRANSIT FULFILL OUR MISSION TO
CONNECT MORE PEOPLE TO MORE
PLACES.
YOUR ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN KEY TO
NARROWING ALTERNATIVES, AND
MAXIMIZING ALTERNATIVES, BASED
ON YOUR VALUES AND COMMUNITY
INPUT, SOUND TRANSIT IS VERY
THANKFUL OF THE TIME AND ENERGY
TO UNDERSTAND THE CAUSE,
BENEFITS AND TRADE-OFFS OF THE
ALTERNATIVES THAT WE ARE
EVALUATING.
WORKING COLLABORATIVELY HELPS
US EDIFY ISSUES EARLY, HEADING
OFF FUTURE DELAYS, AND MAKING
IT POSSIBLE TO MEET THE
SCHEDULE APPROVED IN ST3.
MANY THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND
GREAT THINKING ON CONNECTING
MORE PEOPLE TO MORE PLACES.
>>> THANK YOU, THE NEXT ITEM ON
THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT, I
HAVE EIGHT FOLKS CALLED UP, I
WILL CALL YOU IN BATCHES, YOU
WILL HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES TO
MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, ALEX
ZIMMERMAN, MARK KNUDSEN, AND
DENNIS NOLAN.
>>>
>>> ALEX REDMOND.
-- ALEX ZIMMERMAN, $100 BILLION,
CORPORATIONS, FATCATS AND YOU,
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
MINORITIES, 5% OF PEOPLE WHO
WILL DRIVE THE TRAIN, 95% WHO
DRIVE CARS, A VERY INTERESTING
KIND OF CROOKS I'VE SEEN, WE
NEED TO CLEAN THIS DIRTY
CHAMBER FROM THESE CRIMINALS,
THEY REPRESENT WHAT I CALL A
NAZI SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC MAFIA,
NO ONE IS AGAINST THEM, I HEAR
ONE VOICE, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY
ON THE AGENDA, WHAT IS CALLED
TIS NAZI SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC
MAFIA, THEY ARE NOT SEES,
REPRESENT ONLY SMALL GROUP OF
PEOPLE, IT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS
HAPPENED, EXACTLY WHAT I SPEAK
RIGHT NOW, SO PLEASE, EVERYBODY,
IN EXACTLY THE 700,000 IDIOTS,
IT WILL COST IS $100 BILLION,
WE NEED 250,000 APARTMENTS FOR
LOW INCOME, PEOPLE ARE IN LOW
INCOME RIGHT NOW, WE PAY FOR
EVERYTHING, IT IS 50% AND 5%
PAY FOR THIS, STAND UP AMERICA,
SEATTLE, COMING THIS DIRTY
CHAMBER FROM THESE NAZIS.
THANK YOU.>> MARK KNUDSEN IS
NEXT.
YOU HAVE OUR ATTENTION, MARK.
>>> THANK YOU, I AM MARK
KNUDSEN, REPRESENTING SSA
MARINE, ONE OF THE MAJOR
TERMINAL OPERATING COMPANIES,
HEADQUARTERED IN HARBOUR
ISLAND, WE ARE IN THE UNIQUE
POSITION WERE THE NORTH
ALIGNMENT GOES THROUGH A
CONTAINER TERMINAL, AND THE
SOUTH ALIGNMENT GOES THROUGH
HEADQUARTERS, BUT IT WAS
IMPORTANT, I THINK AS WE LOOK
AT THIS, IT IS HARD FOR US TO
GIVE YOU THIS, AS THE DESIGN IT
-- AS THE DESIGN EVOLVES, THE
EFFICIENCY, AND TRANSPORTATION
FLOWS TO THE TERMINAL STAYS
INTACT, CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS
OF THE GATEWAY, CONGESTION
LEADS TO CARGO MOVING TO OTHER
LOCATIONS, WE HAVE BEEN
FORTUNATE WITH THE NORTHWEST
SEAPORT ALLIANCE TO REBUILD
THEM IN SEATTLE, FOLLOW THAT IS
THATHAS HAPPENED, CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT FOR US THAT AS THE
ALIGNMENT, IF IT'S -- IF IT IS
THE NORTH ONE, MAKE SURE IT IS
EFFECTIVE, IMPROVING THE
RANSPORTATION FLOWS,
CRITICALLY AND IMPORTANT, YOU
LOOK AT THE ACTIVITIES,
TERMINAL FIVE, IMPACTED BY THIS,
ARE BOTH AROUND 200 ACRE
TERMINALS, THAT IS THE SIZE WE
NEED FOR TERMINALS, FOR THE
SHIPS THAT WE HAVE, IN TODAY'S
ENVIRONMENT, THOSE ARE NOT
REPLACEABLE, CRITICAL PIECES OF
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, I
URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE
TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS, WE
WOULD LIKE TO SEEN OPPORTUNITY
WERE BOTH THE MASS TRANSIT
IMPROVEMENT IS MADE FOR ALL THE
VARIOUS REASONS THAT IS LOGICAL,
AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
MARITIME OFFICE RELATED LIKE
THE HEADQUARTERS, THEY CAN BE
MOVED, WE ARE HAPPY WHERE THEY
ARE, THEY CAN BE LOCATED, WE
URGE YOU TO PAY A LOT OF
ATTENTION TO THE TRANSPORTATION
FLOW AS YOU DO YOUR ANALYSIS.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS,
OBVIOUSLY WE WILL LOOK A LOT
MORE THAT WE ARE HAVING THOSE
CONVERSTIONS.
DENNIS, FOLLOWED BY MARJORIE,
AND KATHLEEN JOHNSON.
>>> DENNIS NOLAND, SOUND
TRANSIT IS RUNNING
>>> ROUTING IN A REAL STATION
THAT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT MANY
OF THE 90+ HOMES LOCATED IN THE
TWO SQUARE BLOCKS OF
YOUNGSTOWN, WHAT IS
DISAPPOINTING, IT HAS
PROGRESSED AS FAR AS IT HAS
UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, WITHOUT
THE DIRECT IMPACT OF THE
RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
THIS COMMUNITY OF HOMES IS AN
OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE OF WHAT
SEATTLE PROFESSES THAT IT ONCE,
DIVERSITY OF INCOMES,
ETHNICITIES, AGES, LIFESTYLES,
FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN,
RETIREES, AND MULTIGENERATIONAL
HOUSEHOLDS, MIXED IN AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, ACCESS, INCREASING
DENSITY, PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT.
IT IS CRAZINESS, IN MY OPINION,
THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
HEART AND SOUL, AND PROFOUND
SENSE OF COMMUNITY WILL BE
WIPED OUT, WE ARE MORE THAN A
LINE ON A MAP, THESE ARE REAL
PEOPLE, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LIGHT RAIL
WAS DESIGNED TO SERVE.
BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE,
PLEASE RECONSIDER EVERY OPTION.
GET CREATIVE, FIND WAYS TO
MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS OF LIGHT
RAIL CONSTRUCTION ON THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD, THE QUESTION IS,
HOW CAN WE PRESERVE THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACCOMMODATE
THE NEEDS OF LIGHT RAIL?
TO ANSWER THIS, WE NEED FEET ON
THE GROUND, AND YOUR FEET ON
THE GROUND, COUNCILMEMBERS
McDERMOTT AND HER BOLD HAVE
WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND
MET NEIGHBORS, EXECUTIVE
CONSTANTINE HAS AGREED TO AT
THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I INVITE ALL
OF YOU TO WALK IT WITH ME, I
WILL REACH OUT TO SCHEDULE.
THE YOUNGSTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD,
WHAT I SPEAK, SOUTHWEST DAKOTA
AND GENESEE STREET, BETWEEN 26
SOUTHWEST, LOCATED AT THE SOUTH
END, AND THE DHHS SOUTH
BUILDING AT THE NORTH.
>> THANK YOU DENNIS, I
APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND
WORKING WITH FOLKS AND REALLY
HIGHLIGHTING SOME IMPORTANT
VALUES THAT WE SHARE, WE WILL
PROCESS THAT, THANKS.
MARGUERITE?
>> YES, GOOD DAY EVERYONE,
WELCOME TO FEBRUARY, THE BLACK
HISTORY MONTH, I WANT TO SPEAK
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RACE AND
SOCIAL JUSTICE TOOLKIT, IN
REGARDS TO THE SYSTEMATIC
OPPRESSION, DEPRESSION, AND
SUPPRESSION, AND HOW YOU MONITOR
THIS ROOM, AND PEOPLE WHO USE
FREE SPEECH.
TAKE MYSELF FOR INSTANCE, CAN'T
GO INTO CITY HALL AND THE
MUNICIPAL TOWER BECAUSE OF
BRUCE HARRELL, I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU CALLED INSANITY, BORDERLINE
INSANITY THAT WOULD BOOT -- DO
SUCH A THING TO A BLACK PERSON
THAT IS MAKING HISTORY RIGHT
NOW, JUST BECAUSE I'M ALLOWED
TO SPEAK.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE
GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK,
TRUTH AND JUSTICE, IS THE
AMERICAN WAY.
SO I'M HAVING A PROBLEM TALKING
ABOUT TRAINING, BIAS, AS A WAY
TO CODDLE US TO MAKE US THINK
THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO
SOMETHING, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE
A CHANGE, AND YOU DON'T DO IT.
I AM VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT
THAT, BECAUSE I KEEP REPEATING
MYSELF, AND THAT IS NOT A GOOD
THING, YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP
REPEATING YOURSELF, DOING THE
SAME THING, GETTING READY TO
CELEBRATE 100 YEARS, 100 YEARS
AGO, TALKING ABOUT RACE,
TALKING ABOUT RACE, YOU NEED TO
SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM OUR
RAISE, GET YOURSELF OUT OF OUR
BUSINESS, STOP PUTTING PEOPLE
ON SOUND TRANSIT AND OTHER
BUSES, TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS
AND OUR LIBERTIES, AND DON'T
TELL ME I DIDN'T SEE IT, I
SOUGHT THE OTHER DAY, THE
BANDITS, A HOMELESS MAN THAT
COULDN'T PAY HIS FEAR, A POLICE
STATE ON THE BUS TO HARM THE
PEOPLE, HAVE YOU FIGURED THAT
OUT YET?
-- PAY HIS FARE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I AM KATHLEEN JOHNSON, I AM
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT
HISTORIC SOUTH DOWNTOWN, I AM
HERE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE
AND BUSINESSES IN CHINATOWN
INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AND
PIONEER SQUARE, LIKE MANY OF
THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO
LIVE AND WORK IN NEIGHBORHOODS,
I TOOK LIGHT RAIL, WE KNOW AND
APPRECIATE THE COMPLEXITY AND
IMPORTANCE OF YOUR WORK.
I AM HERE TO ASK IF THE COUNCIL
WOULD CONSIDER THE ELECTED
LEADERSHIP'S GROUP,
RECOMMENDING AN EXTENSION OF
THE SCOPING.
-- PERIOD.
I HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING IT,
BUT I THINK WE ARE CHANGING
THAT TO EXTENDING IT TO LAST
THROUGH APRIL, MANY OF YOU HAVE
PARTICIPATED IN PROVIDING
FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE
COMMUNITY TO BUILD UP CAPACITY,
SO THAT WE CAN GATHER
INFORMATION, AND BE AS
EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP,
AND WE WANT TO TAKE MAXIMUM
EFFECT OF THAT MONEY, BY HAVING
A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND THAT
SCOPING., AND WE BELIEVE WE
WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT, ASKING
FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE
SCOPING.
TO LAST THROUGH THE MONTH OF
APRIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE THE REQUEST, AND
SURE WANTING TO GET AS MUCH
TIME TO GET THE THOUGHTFUL
FEEDBACK FOR THE SCOPING., WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU
AND THE AGENCY TO NEGOTIATE AND
NAVIGATE THAT IN THE COMING
WEEKS.
THANK YOU.
TAYLOR?
>>> THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU GUYS
CUP I WILL KEEP MY STORY?
AND PERSONAL, I LIVE ON
SOUTHWEST DAKOTA STREET AND
25th, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
DENNIS SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT, MY
WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN
SEATTLE FOR 15+ YEARS, AND
VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND
FINALLY ACHIEVED OUR DREAM OF
HOME OWNERSHIP IN JANUARY 2016,
ECSTATIC TO BE ABLE TO OWN A
HOME IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE IN
THE CURRENT MARKET -- HOUSING
MARKET, IT PROVIDED THE
STABILITY WE NEEDED TO START A
FAMILY, WE GOT MORE THAN WE
BARGAINED FOR, WE HAD TWINS, WE
HAVE SIX-MONTH-OLD TWINS AT
HOME, SO STRETCHED PRETTY THIN
OURSELVES, BUT THE CURRENT
PLAN, BEING CONSIDERED WOULD
ESSENTIALLY THROW THAT
STABILITY INTO QUESTION,
POTENTIALLY DESTROYING THE
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIVE IN,
AND THE HOME THAT WE LOVE, WE
ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS
AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME, WHEN
DENNIS CAME AND KNOCKED ON OUR
DOOR, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING
FOR -- ABOUT IT FOR YOUR HALF,
IT IS CONCERNING.
THESE PLANS WITH ESSENTIALLY
EFFECTIVELY DISPLACES FROM THE
CITY OF SEATTLE, BECAUSE WE
WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A
COMPARABLE HOME IN A COMPARABLE
AREA IN THE CURRENT MARKET, WE
WOULD BE PUSHED FAR OUTSIDE OF
SEATTLE, AWAY FROM JOBS AND
RELATIONSHIPS, DISRUPTING
CHILDCARE, WHICH IS A HUGE ISSUE
FOR US OBVIOUSLY.
SO I GUESS I'M URGING YOU GUYS
TO RECONSIDER OPTIONS, I KNOW
THERE WERE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE
PRIOR TO THIS STAGE, WE'VE DONE
TUNNELS AND OTHER AREAS,
TUNNELS HERE AND DOWNTOWN, WHY
NOT A TUNNEL THROUGH PIGEON
HILL CLICK
>> OF THE COST IS NOT JUST
FINANCIAL, AND NOT JUST LINES
ON A MAP.
>> THANK YOU TAYLOR, I
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.
EUGENE?
YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY KATIE
AND JORDAN.
STRUT I AM EUGENE WASSERMAN,
FOR THE NORTH SEATTLE
INDUSTRIAL ASSOCIATION, WE
REPRESENT MARITIME INDUSTRIAL
SECTORS, THE BAY, AND WE HAVE
SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE LAST
THREE OR FOUR YEARS WORKING ON
ROUTES, AND ALIGNMENTS, FIRST
OF ALL, I WANT TO THINK THE
STAFF, A GREAT TEAM THAT HAVE
WORKED WITH US, VERY RESPONSIVE
IN GETTING US INFORMATION, WE
APPLAUD THEIR RESPONSES, WE
DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT, I WANT
TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, BUT WE
SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, AND
IT'S OUR CONCLUSION, THAT THE
ZONING ALIGNMENT WE WANT TO GO
-- FOR FOR AS THE PREFERRED
ALIGNMENT, THE TUNNEL UNDER THE
SHIP CANAL, ANYTHING ELSE WOULD
BE DESTRUCTIVE OF THE MARITIME
INDUSTRY, THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN IS PRETTY CLEAR WERE THEY
STAND ON THAT, THE HIGH-LEVEL
BRIDGE, WOULD BE INCREDIBLY
DESTRUCTIVE DRAWBRIDGE, WHICH
WOULD NEVER GET BUILT, WE WILL
MAKE SURE THE COAST GUARD DOES
NOT ALLOW IT, AND THEY PROBABLY
WOULDN'T.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOUND
TRANSIT HAVE LEARNED FROM US IS
THE PEOPLE THAT CONTROL THE
WATERWAYS ARE NOT THE STATE,
THE CITY OR THE COUNTY, IT IS
THE COAST GUARD, SPECIFIC RULES
THAT WE KNOW, THEY ARE STARTING
TO LEARN THEM, PUTTING THE
REPRESENTATIVE, FORWARD, WOULD
MEAN THAT SOME BUSINESSES WOULD
NOT DO DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE
THEY WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU CAN'T HOLD
BUSINESS HOSTAGE, THE PROCESS
FOR THREE YEARS, WHEN YOU'RE
NEVER GOING TO BUILD THEM,
MOVING A REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT
JUST AS AN ACADEMIC EXERCISE,
WE CONSIDER A THREAT TO THE
MARITIME INDUSTRY, THANK YOU.>>
THANK YOU.
KT?
-- KATIE?
>>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
KATIE GARROW, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU
TODAY, REPRESENTING MORE THAN
100,000 UNIONIZED WORKERS HERE
IN KING COUNTY, I HAVE PROVIDED
ALL OF THE FEEDBACK I'M ABOUT
TO SHARE WITH YOU VIA MY ROLE
ON THE STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY
GROUP, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN I GREW.
I AM HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS THE
LABOR COUNCIL SUPPORT FOR THE
PROPOSED EAST-WEST ROUTES THAT
ARE LOCATED SOUTH OF SPOKANE
STREET FOR THE ST3 EXPANSION TO
WEST SEATTLE, WORKERS WHO
UNLOAD CARGO AT TERMINAL 18,
ARE THE ONES THAT WAIT IN LONG
TIME -- LONG LINES OF TRAFFIC,
TELL US THAT HE ST3 LINE THAT
CROSSES NORTH OF SPOKANE STREET
WOULD HAVE DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS
FOR THEIR ABILITY TO GET A
CONTAINER OUT FROM THE DOCK AND
ONTO THE ROADS.
CONTAINERS TRYING TO LEAVE T5,
WOULD ENCOUNTER THE SAME
PROBLEM.
I WANTED TO TESTIFY BECAUSE IT
IS PERSONALLY IMPORTANT TO ME,
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WORK
IN THE LABOR MOVEMENT, IS
BECAUSE I GREW UP IN A PLACE
WHERE THE ECONOMY WAS GARBAGE,
AND DIGNIFIED WORK WAS PRETTY
RARE, BUT WE HAD A PORT, AND
YOUNG MEN ASPIRE TO BE
LONGSHOREMEN, IT WITHSTOOD THE
FALL OF THE TIMBER INDUSTRY IN
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY, AND IT HAS
MATTERED FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE
CUP ECONOMY SHIFT AND CHANGE,
BUT EVEN ABERDEEN, ONE OF THE
HIGHS AND IMPLEMENT RATES, FOR
MOST OF MY LIFE, HAS A WORKING
PORT, AND THAT HAS MADE A
DIFFERENCE, THAT HAS KEPT
EVERYTHING FROM BEING A GHOST
TOWN.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT IT
WAS GREAT, BUT WE ALL KNEW IT
COULD BE WORSE.
SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE TECH CUT
AEROSPACE AND ALL THE CRANES
WILL BE HERE FOREVER, BUT THEY
WON'T, AND WE WILL ALWAYS NEED
INDUSTRIES LIKE SHIPPING AND
TRADE, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
JORDAN IS THE LAST ONE TO SIGN
UP, OUR LAST PUBLIC COMMENT.
>>> MY NAME IS JORDAN ROYER, I
RESENT THE PACIFIC MERCHANT
SHIPPING ASSOCIATION, SHIPPING
LINES OF THE WEST COAST, MANY
OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT THE
PAST THREE YEARS, THE GATEWAY
HERE OF TACOMA AND SEATTLE HAS
LOST MARKET SHARE, WE USED TO
BE NUMBER 3, WE ARE NOW NUMBER
4, PART OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING
TO GET BACK TO THIS GATEWAY, WE
HAVE BEEN FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL IN
WINNING SOME OF THE CARGO BACK,
AND THE NORTHWEST SEAPORT
ALLIANCE HAS BEEN PART OF THAT,
WHEN I FIRST SAW THE MAP OF THE
ALIGNMENT, I HAD A LITTLE SHOT,
WHEN YOU SEE THE LINE GOING TO
THE TERMINALS, I'VE BEEN
TALKING TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE,
AND WE THINK THERE MAY BE SOME
WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK, I URGE
YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW EASY IT
IS FOR SHIPPING LINE TO SAY I'M
TRYING TO GET TO CHICAGO, I CAN
GET THERE EVEN FASTER GOING
THROUGH CANADA, THROUGH THE
PORT OF VANCOUVER THAN COMING
DOWN HERE OR GOING TO LA, MOST
OF THE CONTAINER TRAFFIC THAT
THE PORT OF SEATTLE GETS IS
THAT DISCRETIONARY CARGO THAT
CAN FIND ALL KINDS OF WAYS TO
GET TO CHICAGO.
I URGE YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.
WORK WITH SSA IN THE PORT TO
SEE WHAT CAN WORK OUT, WE ARE
IN A BIG FIGHT NOW, IF WE DON'T
MAKE IT WORK, WE COULD BE IN A
BIGGER FIGHT LATER, WE SUPPORT
TRANSIT, IT GETS CARS OFF THE
ROAD, EASIER FOR FREIGHT TO
MOVE, WE ARE NOT ANTI-TRANSIT,
BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE
THIS WORK, IT IS IMPORTANT TO
GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW
TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU.
>>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ONTO
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
HONORABLE MICHAEL FULLER, DID
YOU WANT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT CLICK
>> YES.
>> OKAY YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
>> FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK
MY GOD FOR BEING HERE, BLACK
HISTORY MONTH, THIS IS THE
WORST AGAINST BLACK LIVES
MATTER, IT'S NOT THE DREAM THAT
BLACK LIVES MATTER CAN BELIEVE
IN, DAY BUT TO MAKE THIS
COUNTRY SAFE AND SECURE,
VIOLATING TITLE VIII 1324, A, 1,
IN PARENTHESES, 274, IN
PARENTHESES.
USC 1325, IMPROPER ENTRY WE ARE
SPENDING 338 $.3 BILLION A YEAR
ON ILLEGAL AND UNAUTHORIZED
ALIENS, BUT OUR VETERANS ARE
SLEEPING ON THE STREETS.
-- $383.3 MILLION. WHERE IS
JENNY DURKIN?
INCOMPETENCY, IT IS WICKED, THE
ACTIVITIES INCOMPATIBLE WITH
PUBLIC DUTY, MALICIOUS
HARASSMENT, AND 49 .63, FREEDOM
FROM DISCRIMINATION.
BLACK LIVES MATTERS COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU, MR. FULLER.
>>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ONTO
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM,
DISCUSSION ON COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT AND COLLABORATION.
>>> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR COMMITMENT, IT'S GREAT TO
SEE YOU IN 2019, WE HAVE AN
INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION BY
KATE HILL, AND I'M SURE YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS, LOOKING FORWARD
TO THAT, IF I QUICKLY REVIEW
THE AGENDA, PROVIDING THE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND
COLLABORATION UPDATE, ON WORK
THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE
AREA.
SOME OF THIS YOU HAVE SEEN
BEFORE, BUT HE WILL REVIEW THE
LEVEL III SCREENING PROCESS, GO
THROUGH ALTERNATIVES, AND SPEND
THE BULK OF THE PRESENTATION ON
LEVEL III ALTERNATIVES, AND MIX-
AND-MATCH OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING, A
LOT OF INFORMATION GOING TO THE
IS MR. O'BRIEN SAID, THERE IS
NO ASK OF YOU TODAY, AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IN MORE
INFORMATION AND HAVE DISCUSSION.
WITH THAT?
LITA?
>>> THANK YOU, YOU HAVE SEEN
THIS TRUCK BEFORE, WE WILL
START HERE, THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT AND COLLABORATION
PROCESS CHART, IT SERVES TO
SHOW US HOW WE ENGAGE THE
COMMUNITY AT THE START, HOW THE
FEEDBACK FILTERS TO THE
STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY GROUP, AND
WE ENGAGE YOU, THE GROUP AND
THE BOARD, THE SCREENING
PROCESS AND THE PROCESS OF
IDENTIFYING ALTERNATIVES.
>>> SINCE WE LAST MET, WE HAD A
FEW STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY GROUP
MEETINGS, IN DECEMBER AND
JANUARY, AND WE ARE NOW AT THE
FEBRUARY 1 ELECTED LEADERSHIP
GROUP MEETING.
FROM NOVEMBER 2018 THROUGH
JANUARY 24, WE DON'T HAVE ALL
OF THE JANUARY INFORMATION YET,
WE WILL GET YOU THAT, YOU
SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED OUTREACH
REPORTS, WHAT WE HEARD THROUGH
THE VARIOUS VENUES, COMMENTS
AND QUESTIONS, EMAIL UPDATES
THAT ENGAGE MANY SUBSCRIBERS,
WE DO TABLING EVENTS AND
COMMUNITY BRIEFINGS.
A SNAPSHOT OF NOVEMBER AND
DECEMBER, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES
OF ENGAGEMENT, WE SET UP
PROACTIVELY, WHERE THEY MIGHT
BE IN AS THEY REQUEST
ENGAGEMENT WITH US, AND WE TRY
TO LEARN MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
HOW PEOPLE ARE FEELING ACROSS
THE CORRIDOR, WHETHER WE ARE AT
WEST SEATTLE IN DEL RIDGE
COMMITTEE CENTER, OR ACROSS
HARBOUR ISLAND, ENGAGING WITH
DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, THE
CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL
DISTRICT, VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN
FOLKS, ADDITIONALLY NOR THROUGH
SOUTH LAKE UNION AND OUT TO
BALLARD, IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT
TYPES OF MEETINGS, BRIEFINGS,
11, THE GROUP MEETINGS, THIS IS
JANUARY.>>> I WILL SPEND A
LITTLE TIME TALKING ABOUT
NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE WILL
HAVE THE JANUARY REPORT FOR YOU
SOON, A LOT OF CONSISTENCY OF
WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IN JANUARY
AS WELL, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
TIMELINE AND PROCESS FOR
PROPERTY ACQUISITION, WE FOR
THAT A LOT THROUGHOUT THE
CORRIDOR, WHAT WE'VE DONE
RESPONSES TO TRY TO INCORPORATE
MORE UP FRONT AND PROACTIVELY
WITH THE TIMELINE, WE'RE ALWAYS
AVAILABLE TO BRIEF COMMUNITY
MEMBERS OR MEET ONE-ON-ONE TO
TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND
THEIR PERSONAL SITUATION, THE
REQUEST TO LOCATE DESIGN
STATIONS WITH ACCESSIBILITY AND
SAFETY, A LOT OF COMMENTS
ACROSS THE ALIGNMENT, HOW YOU
WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEM,
TOPOGRAPHY, LIGHTING, HOW
ACCESSIBLE THEY WILL BE CUT A
PLANNING TEAM IS TAKING THOSE
THINGS AND KEEPING THEM IN MIND
AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
A REQUEST TO MIX-AND-MATCH FOR
MOBILE THREE -- LEVEL III
ALTERNATIVES, THAT WILL BE PART
OF THAT TODAY, TOO STRUCTURED
TO BE THE MOST HELPFUL, DESIGN
AND BUILD EXTENSIONS FASTER,
SOMETHING WE HEARD, PEOPLE
WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROJECTS OPEN
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, THIS IS
A KEY PART, WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT ISSUES
EARLIER IN THE PROCESS IS A KEY
WAY THAT WE DO THAT.>>> REQUEST
FOR FREQUENT BUS STATIONS,
OTHER WAYS AND MODES THAT YOU
CONNECT THE STATIONS, WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH KING
COUNTY METRO, TO SEE HOW WE CAN
INTEGRATE.>>> REQUESTS FOR
PROPOSED ROUTES, WHEN WE DO THE
SCOPING., WILL HAVE
VISUALIZATIONS UPDATED FROM
LEVEL II.>>> QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS ABOUT FREIGHT MOBILITY,
MORE CONCENTRATED IN THE NORTH,
ACROSS HARBOUR ISLAND, MEETING
WITH FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THOSE
CONCERNS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HER BOAT HAS A
QUESTION.>> -- HERBOLD HAS A
QUESTION.
>> YOU MENTIONED THAT IT WOULD
BE AVAILABLE FOR THE SCOPING.,
AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO
SEE, AND BA TOOL FOR THEM TO BE
AVAILABLE DURING THE PERIOD?
>> YES.
>> TO?
FOLLOW-UPS, CAN YOU OR YOUR
NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR TO YOUR
RIGHT, TALK MORE ABOUT THE
REQUEST WE HEARD FROM FOLKS IN
THE PUBLIC, THE COMMENT ABOUT
SCOPING, THE TIMELINE FOR THE
COPING PROCESS, THE
POSSIBILITY OF AN EXTENSION?
AND 2nd, I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY
IMPACTS, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE
SCHEDULE OF WHAT WE ARE ON, AND
HOW QUICKLY THE PROPERTY
ACQUISITION HAPPENS, AND ENSURE
WE HAVE DESIGNATED TEAMS GOING
OUT TALK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS, TO
THE UNDERSTAND THE TIMING AND
DECISION-MAKING, IF AND WHEN
SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN, WHAT
TRIP -- SOUND TRANSIT PROPERTY
IS.
>> I WILL TALK TO THE PROPERTY
ACQUISITION QUESTION FIRST OF
ALL, WE ARE VERY EARLY IN
PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE BEGUN THE EIS
PROJECT YET, THAT PROCESS YET,
TYPICALLY WE DON'T COMPLETED
UNTIL AFTER THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROCESS IS COMPLETE, THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS IS
SCHEDULED FOR MID 2022, BETWEEN
THAT.
AND WHEN WE START CONSTRUCTION
IN 2025, IT'S ABOUT FIVE YEARS
OUT BEFORE WE WOULD ACQUIRE ANY
PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE ENGAGING
WITH PROPERTY OWNERS NOW, AND
ANYBODY WHO HAS CONCERNS ABOUT
POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO PROPERTY,
WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM AT A
VENUE CONVENIENT TO THEM TO
HELP EXPLAIN THE PROCESS, WE
WILL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH
PEOPLE AS WE GO THROUGH THE
ENVIRONMENT A PROCESS.
TYPICALLY BEFORE WE PUBLISH IT,
WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING
OF THE POTENTIAL EFFECTS TO
PROPERTY OWNERS, WE NOTIFY ALL
OF THEM ABOUT POTENTIAL IMPACT
TO THEIR PROPERTY BEFORE THE
DRAFT EIS IS PUBLISHED, TO HELP
THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
UNDERSTAND, THEY WILL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMON AND
PERSPECTIVES -- COMMENTS. IT IS
A LONG JOURNEY THAT WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW, UNTIL THE BOARD
MAKES ITS ULTIMATE DECISION IN
2022, WE ARE ENGAGING WITH
PEOPLE RIGHT NOW ABOUT THAT.>>>
THE SECOND QUESTION, ON THE EIS
SCOPING., I WILL REFER THAT TO
DON.>> AS YOU KNOW WITH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN,
WE'VE HAD TO DELAY THE START OF
OUR SCOPING., AND WE HAVE OUR
FINGERS CROSSED RIGHT NOW THAT
IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, BEFORE
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
POTENTIALLY COULD BE DONE AGAIN,
THAT THE GOT AN ENORMOUS BACK
LOAD, A NOTICE OF INTENT,
PUBLISHED IN THE FEDERAL
REGISTER, ALLOWING THE FORMAL
SCOPING.
TO START.
WE ARE LOATH TO ASKED THEM TO
CONSIDER A CHANGE IN THE FORMAL
SCOPING., HOWEVER, THE SILVER
LINING IN ALL THIS IS THAT WITH
THE DELAY IN THE START, WE HAVE
MORE TIME TO ENGAGE NOW, WE'LL
HAVE TO WAIT -- WE DON'T HAVE
TO WAIT TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH
MEMBERS, THEY WILL HAVE 60 DAYS
EFFECTIVELY RATHER THAN 30
DAYS, TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION
YOU'RE GOING TO GET AND
FORMULATE THEIR COMMENTS.
WE'RE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH
ANY AND ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS
IMMEDIATELY TO TALK ABOUT THE
INFORMATION IN THE PROCESS
GOING FORWARD, AND MAKE SURE
THEY'VE GOT AMPLE OPPORTUNITY
TO WEIGH IN BEFORE YOU MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ?
>> HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD
SECTION, THE SECOND BULLET
POINT SAYS THERE WERE ISSUES
RELATED TO THE LOCATION AND
DESIGN, WITH ACCESSIBILITY IN
MIND, AND SOMETHING THAT I
BROUGHT UP IN THE COURSE OF
THESE CONVERSATION IS
ASSOCIATED WITH FOLKS WHO DON'T
HAVE A STRONG COMMAND OF THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE, CAN YOU TALK
ABOUT IF IT HAS COME UP, AND IF
IT HASN'T, WHAT ARE YOU DOING
TO DEAL WITH THAT?
>> WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS
WITH SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS,
FAMILIARITY WITH HOW TO USE
LIGHT RAIL, IF IT IS COMING TO
A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY HAVE
NOT HAD A BEFORE, THE POTENTIAL
CHALLENGES OF HOW THEY NAVIGATE
A SYSTEM THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR
WITH TO BEGIN WITH, AND A
DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, WE'VE TAKEN
THE FEEDBACK, SHARING IT WITH
OUR TEAM, TO UNDERSTAND AS WE
ROLL PIECES FORWARD, CAN
INCORPORATE THAT WITH WHAT THE
PROJECTS, FOR THIS PROJECT IN
PARTICULAR, IT IS A LITTLE BIT
OF A WAYS OUT, IN TERMS OF THE
LEVEL OF DETAIL, IN TERMS OF
STATION DESIGN, BUT IMPORTANT
FEEDBACK THAT WE ARE COLLECTING
AS WE GO ALONG, AND WE HAVE A
DISTINCT SYSTEM, AS WELL.
>> IT'S A WAYS OUT BEFORE WE
GET TO THE PROMISED LAND OF
TELLING PEOPLE WHICH WAY TO GO
ON THE TRAIN, BUT I THINK IF WE
DON'T CONTINUE TO INCORPORATE
IT IN THESE DOCUMENTS AND
CONVERSATIONS, IT WILL GET LOST
IN THE FORMULATION OF THOSE
DETAILS, I WANT TO REITERATE IN
ENSURING THAT WE ARE THINKING
ABOUT THE LENSES OF
ACCESSIBILITY AND SAFETY FOR
STATION DESIGN, AND INCLUDING
THE REALITIES OF THE RICH
DIVERSITY IN CULTURES THAT LIVE
WITHIN THE REGION, INCLUDING
LANGUAGE DIVERSITY, THESE ARE
PRIMARILY PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT
ARE BEING UTILIZED BY WORKING
PEOPLE, A LOT OF TIMES ARE
IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES, AND
WHO ARE NOT COMFORTABLE IN PART
USING PUBLIC TRANSIT, BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO
READ THE LANGUAGE THAT IS
INTENDED TO COMMUNICATE TO
PEOPLE HOW TO USE IT, I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A
BIG PRIORITY FOR ME.
>> COUNCILMEMBER McDERMOTT?
>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THE
CONCERN I HEARD FROM THE
HISTORIC SOUTH END NEIGHBORHOOD
WASN'T NECESSARILY MORE TIME ON
THE CALENDAR TO COME IN, BUT
GIVEN THE RESOURCES THAT THEY
RECENTLY OBTAINED, THEY ARE
ASKING FOR MORE TIME, A LENGTH
OF TIME, TO GATHER THAT INPUT,
USE THAT EXPERTISE, DEVELOP
THAT INPUT, AND PROVIDED TO US,
WE'RE HOPING THAT THE COMMENT.
MIGHT BE LONGER, AND WITH AN
EARLIER START, AND ACTUALLY
EXTENDED, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY
JUNE, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF
THE COMMENT.
BEING EXTENDED LONGER?
LATER IN THE CALENDAR?
OR DO WE KNOW YET?
>> WHAT I AM SIGNALING IS THAT
THERE IS RISK THAT IF WE GO BACK
TO FDA TO ASKED FOR THE
EXTENSION OF THE COMMENT
PERIOD, THAT WILL ADD MORE TIME
TO THE DELAY WE HAVE ALREADY
EXPERIENCED.
I THINK THERE ARE WAYS, COUNCIL
MEMBERS, TO SIT DOWN WITH THE
GROUP, AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT
ENSURING THAT THE ANALYSIS THEY
ARE GOING TO DO REACHES THIS
BODY BEFORE YOUR RECOMMENDATION
AND BEFORE THE TRANSIT BOARD
TAKES ACTION IN MAY.
WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO
MODIFY THE FEDERAL SCOPING..
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO PROBLEM
SOLVE ON.
>> WITH THE SAME WEIGHT AND
INFLUENCE AS OTHER COMMENTS
FORMALLY PROVIDED DURING THE
SCOPING.?
>> CORRECT.
>> SECONDLY, FROM PUBLIC
TESTIMONY, THE DISPLACEMENT
CONCERN WE HAVE HEARD, AND WE
HAVE HEARD SPECIFICALLY, AROUND
YOUNGSTOWN, THE DELL RIDGE
STATION, AND WE HAVE MADE A
REQUEST IN WRITING OF SOUND
TRANSIT TO UNDERSTAND THE
GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT
RISKS THAT ACTION WOULD TAKE,
AND FLUSH OUT SOME OF THOSE
OTHER IMPACTS, FURTHER SOUTH,
PARTICULARLY COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR, AND THE IMPACT, AND
RISKS AND BENEFITS OF EQUITABLE
TOD OPPORTUNITIES, CREATED BY A
YOUNGSTOWN OR DELL RIDGE
STATION, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
THAT REQUEST AND NEED, BOTH TO
YOU AND TO THE AUDIENCE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT,
THE ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS IS
IMPORTANT, BUT AS WE LEARNED
FROM A RECENT MEETING THAT WE
DID HAVE AT YOUNGSTOWN WITH THE
DELL RIDGE COMMUNITY, THERE IS
ALSO A REAL INTEREST IN
ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
COMMUNITY BEFORE THIS BODY MAKES
LEVEL III RECOMMENDATIONS.
SOME SORT OF AN ENGAGEMNT
PROCESS, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU
HAVE DONE IN THE CID, THAT
WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO THE
COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WANT
TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOMETHING
THAT EUGENE WASSERMAN BROUGHT UP
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT IS
TO THE EXTENT WE NEED TO GIVE
FURTHER CONSIDERATION, LIKE WE
DO IT DELL RIDGE, I AM
ADVOCATING THAT IF WE DON'T
NEED FURTHER CONSIDERATION,
THAT WE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
ALTERNATIVES, SO THAT WE ARE
NOT SPENDING MONEY REVIEWING
THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY
ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT WANT.
AS AN EXAMPLE AROUND THE
BALLARD LEG, THE LAST LEG, FROM
THE BEGINNING, PEOPLE HAVE SAID
A DRAWBRIDGE IS IMPOSSIBLE, THE
PREDICTABILITY, $100 MILLION
LESS, UNACCEPTABLE TO THE
COMMUNITY, AND THE IDEA OF A
FIXED BRIDGE, MAJOR IMPACT ON
THE PORT PROPERTY AND MARITIME
PROPERTY.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IF
YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING
BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO
MEASURE COSTS, OR SOMETHING
THAT YOU MENTIONED TO ME BEFORE,
I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WE NEED
TO SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY THAT
THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS OFF
THE TABLE, THE PREDICTABILITY
AROUND PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THE
NUMBERS YOU GAVE US, SOMEWHERE
BETWEEN 2022-2025, THAT IS FOR
SIX YEARS THAT THE MARITIME
PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE TO
BE HOLDING THEIR BREATH AS TO
WHAT DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE
MADE.
I HOPE AS WE ARE COMING THROUGH
THIS, WE MAKE DECISIONS TO TAKE
STUFF OFF THE TABLE, WE ARE NOT
WASTING TIME AND MONEY AND
ENERGY, AND THE COMMUNITY CAN
HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT WE
ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND
SINCE 2014 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
SAYING, WE NEED A TUNNEL, WE
DON'T NEED ANOTHER BRIDGE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE
COMMENTS, AS WE GET INTO THE
DETAILS OF THE ALIGNMENT TODAY,
WE ARE GOING TO START TO SEE
SOME OF THE THINGS COMING
TOGETHER, AND WE WANT TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT FRAMING UP
WITH THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THIS
GROUP ARE, I JUST WANT TO TEE
UP, AT THE END OF THIS PHASE OF
THE PROCESS, NOT TODAY BUT THE
NEXT FEW MONTHS, THIS GROUP
WILL HOPEFULLY BE MAKING A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD BUT
WE THINK THE PREFERRED
ALIGNMENT OR ALIGNMENT SHOULD
BE, AND ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT
WE CHOOSE TO NOT INCLUDE
CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS, IT MAY
BE THAT THE AGENCY, FOR LEGAL
THING -- REASONS, HAS TO
INCLUDE SOME THINGS, AND MAYBE
THE BOARD WHICH YOU SOMETHING
DIFFERENT TO OURS, TOO, BUT WE
HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR
FLEXIBILITY AND RULE IS, AND
HOW THAT MIGHT DIFFER FROM WHAT
ULTIMATELY HAPPENS.
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ?
>> I WOULD TRY TO MAKE THIS?,
WE'RE ON PAGE 8 OF A 95 PAGE
POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, WE ARE
ENGAGED AND INTERESTED IN THESE
ISSUES, I JUST WANT TO BUILD
OFF OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD AND McDERMOTT HAVE
SPOKEN ABOUT IN TERMS ABOUT
GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT,
RECOGNIZE THEIR LETTER IS
SPECIFIC TO THE DELL RIDGE
STATION, AND IN ORDER TO
FULFILL MY CITYWIDE RULE, MY
HOPE IS THAT WE ARE ENGAGING IN
THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF
ANALYSIS FOR THE WHOLE LINE,
AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION
BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
IMPACTS, WE HAVE HAD
CONVERSATIONS ALONG THE ENTIRE
LINE, AND I JUST WANT TO
REITERATE MY REQUEST AN
INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT
PARTICULAR ANALYSIS IS BEING
DONE FOR ALL THE SEGMENTS, AND
NOT JUST ONE.
>> THANK YOU, I DO WANT TO NOTE
THAT WE WILL BE SHARING WITH
YOU ANOTHER RACIAL EQUITY
TOOLKIT MEMO, INCLUDING THOSE
ISSUES THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED,
AS WELL AS ACROSS THE ENTIRE
LINE, SO YOU WILL HAVE THAT
BEFORE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> COMMISSIONER BOWMAN.
>> A? REQUEST OF STAFF, IN
TERMS OF SCOPING, AND HOW TO
COMMENT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE
AS ROBUST AS POSSIBLE, A LITTLE
BIT OF A SILVER LINING, THE
FEDERAL SHUTDOWN COBB PUSHED
BACK A LITTLE BIT, IT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE FEBRUARY 5?
>> YES.
>> I WOULD GUESS MOST OF THE
PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED
ABOUT THIS DIDN'T REALIZE THAT
SCOPING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, IT
IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE AGENCY
BE ROBUST IN THEIR OUTREACH,
BILLBOARDS, WHATEVER IT IS, IT
NEEDS TO BE REALLY PUBLIC SO
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET
THERE COMMENTS AND, THANK YOU
>> LITA, ONE MORE QUESTION ON
THE SCOPING, UNCERTAINTY ABOUT
WHAT IS GOING TO START, HOW WE
CAN HAVE LONGER OPPORTUNITIES TO
CONTINUE TO HAVE FEEDBACK, WE
TALKED ABOUT OPEN HOUSES AND
COMMUNITY FORMS, SINCE WE DON'T
KNOW WHEN SCOPING IS STARTING,
HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE WITH THE
PUBLIC ON THAT?
>> OUR TEAM HAS BEEN READY TO
HIT SEND OR GO, JUST KNOWING
THE TIMING, HAS MADE THAT
DIFFICULT, THE SECOND THAT WE
DO GET THOSE DATES SET, WE CAN
SET THOSE OPEN HOUSES AND
PUBLICIZE WIDELY, A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE
PUBLICIZE, GOING TO PROPERTIES
ALONG THE ALIGNMENT WITH THAT I
BELIEVE A HALF-MILE.
TO A WHOLE STRATEGY FOR GETTING
ADS OUT THERE, SOCIAL MEDIA, TO
SHARE WITH YOUR NETWORKS,
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, WE
WILL DEFINITELY BE DOING THAT,
WE ARE HOPING TO GET THOSE DATES
SOON SO WE CAN SCHEDULE THOSE.
>> FOLKS WHO ARE WATCHING, I'M
SURE THERE IS A WEBSITE THEY
CAN GO TO, IT WILL BE UPDATED,
AND A EMAIL LIST?
>> WSB LINK AT SOUND TRANSIT.ORG
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINK
EXTENSION, THE PAGES THERE, IT
WILL BE FEATURED THE MOMENT
THEY ARE SET.
>> THAT REALITY THAT WE ARE
FACING, WITH THE UNCERTAIN
TIMING AROUND THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, CREATES UNCERTAINTY,
WE MAKE IT NOTICE THAT IT
STARTS TOMORROW, AND THEN 30
DAYS, AND MIGHT BE TOO SHORT A
TIME FOR FOLKS TO GET ORGANIZED,
EVEN WITH THE ADVANCED LEAD UP,
IT'S GOING TO CHALLENGE.
I APPRECIATE THAT, WE WANT TO
CONTINUE TO TALK THROUGH THE
OPTIONS.
>>> SHOWING MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
AGENDA ITEM?
COLLEAGUES, I WANT TO JUST
SUGGEST, AS COUNCIL MEMBER
GONZALEZ NOTICED, THERE ARE A
FEW MORE PAGES, A LOT OF IT IS
REVIEW, AS WE GET TO PAGE 77,
WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
GO DEEPER ON SOME OF THE
ALTERNATIVES, SOME OF THE PROS
AND CONS, AND COSTS, WE WILL
GET AN OVERVIEW, AND IF YOU
HAVE CLARIFICATIONS, THAT IS
GREAT, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE
HOLD THE SUBSTANTIVE
CONVERSATION UNTIL THE BACK
INTO THE -- BACK END OF THE
PRESENTATION .
>>> LEVEL III SCREENING PROCESS.
SO LITA MENTIONED THE OVERALL
PROCESS, AND THE SCOPING., YOU
HAVE SEEN THIS CHART MANY
TIMES, THE SCOPING.
OF BEEN MOVED OUT A LITTLE BIT,
WE WILL LIKELY GO TO YOU IN
APRIL TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS,
IN MAY, A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN
WE INITIALLY PROJECTED.
LEVEL III, AND THESE ARE THE
STEPS WE SEE COMING UP.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE PRESENTING
THE LEVEL III RESULTS, WE
PRESENTED THEM TO THE
STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY GROUP
WEDNESDAY, ORGANIZED IN LATE
FEBRUARY AND MARCH TO PRESENT
THAT TO THE PUBLIC MORE
FORMALLY, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE
SCOPING.
-- PERIOD, IT IS A FORMAL
PROCESS, THE NATIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, WE DO
SEEK FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC
DURING THAT TIME ON THE RANGE
OF ALTERNATIVES, AND THERE HAS
BEEN A LOT OF CHANCES, AND THIS
IS A CHANCE ON HOW TO DISCUSS
HOW IT SHOULD BE FINE.>>> THE
SECOND THING IS WHAT TOPICS WE
SHOULD BE STUDYING IN THE EIS,
SPECIFIC CONCERNS, ARE RELATED
TO DISPLACEMENT, TRAFFIC, THIS
IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LET US
KNOW ABOUT THAT, ENSURE THAT IT
IS LOOKED AT DURING THE EIS
PROCESS, AND COMMENT ON THE
PURPOSE AND NEED, WHICH YOU
HAVE SEEN MANY TIMES, YOU WILL
SEE AGAIN, SOLICITING FEEDBACK
ON THAT.
>>> ALL OF THIS INFORMS ON THE
BOARD DECISION, ON THE EIS, AS
THIS IS A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR
THE FEDERALTRANSIT
MINISTRATION WILL HAVE INPUT ON
THE SCOPE.>>> AS NOTED EARLIER,
THERE WILL BE MANY WAYS TO
PROVIDE FEEDBACK, WE WILL GET
ALL THAT OUT THERE AS SOON AS
WE UNDERSTAND WHEN THE SCOPING.
HIS.
>>> WILL BE ADDING AN
ADDITIONAL MEETING PER THE
REQUEST OF THE COCHAIRS, WE
THINK IT WILL BE ON MARCH 29,
THE FOCUS WILL BE ON THE CID
STATION.
COME APRIL, WE WOULD RETURN TO
SEEK THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON
WHAT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD FROM
THIS POINT.
AS YOU KNOW, ALL THROUGHOUT
THIS YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING
UP ALTERNATIVES, WITH THE
INTENT TO SCREEN DOWN TO THE
ALTERNATIVES THAT WE SHOULD
LOOK MORE AT, LOOKING AT A
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IN
PARTICULAR, A LOT OF INTEREST
IN ADDITIONAL PROJECT ELEMENTS,
TUNNELS AND SO ON, THEY WOULD
REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE
ARE ASKING THE STAKEHOLDER
ADVISORY GROUP TO IDENTIFY TWO
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES, NUMBER
1 WOULD BE IF THIRD-PARTY
FUNDING WERE NOT TO BE SECURED,
AND ALTERNATIVE NUMBER 2, IN
THE EVENT THAT THIRD-PARTY
FUNDING IS SECURED, ALLOWING
ADDITIONAL TIME TO LOOK AT
THOSE AVENUES FOR POTENTIAL
ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE CONTINUE
TO LOOK IN THE PROCESS WHILE
THAT FUNDING SITUATION BECOMES
MORE CLEAR.>>> SO BEFORE YOU
MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN
APRIL, AS WE HAVE NOTED, ALL
THE EVALUATION RESULTS, PUBLIC
FEEDBACK, AND THE INPUT BEFORE
YOU NEED TO MAKE YOUR
RECOMMENDATIONS.>>> THE LAST
STEP IS FOR THE SOUND TRANSIT
BOARD WITH THE SYSTEM EXPANSION
COMMITTEE, AND WITH THE WHOLE
BOARD, TO CONSIDER THE
RECOMMENDATIONS AND TECHNICAL
ANALYSIS, IDENTIFY THE
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND OTHER
ALTERNATIVES LOOK AT, EXPECT
THAT WOULD OCCUR IN MAY.>>>
JUST A BRIEF REALLY REMIND YOU
ABOUT THE LEVEL III
ALTERNATIVES, I WILL MOVE
QUICKLY THROUGH THE SLIDES, WE
HAVE 3 LEVEL III ALTERNATIVES,
AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WE CALL
WEST SEATTLE ELEVATED, CID
FIFTH, AND BALLARD ELEVATED, A
COUPLE OF DESIGN OPTIONS, A
MINE STATION OPTION, THE THIRD
ALTERNATIVE, THE WEST SEATTLE
TUNNEL, CID FOURTH, DOWNTOWN
FIFTH, AND BALLARD TUNNEL, IT
HAS DESIGN OPTIONS IN THE
ALASKA JUNCTION AREA, AND
BALLARD, AND CHINATOWN ID.
THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, I
WON'T SPEND THE ADDITIONAL TIME
HERE, IN THE PLAN, THAT WE HAVE
BEEN LOOKING AT THROUGHOUT THIS
YEAR.
THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE IS SHOWN
ON THIS OVERVIEW MAP, I WILL
REFER TO IT AS THE YELLOW/BROWN
ALTERNATIVE, IN THE ALASKA
JUNCTION AREA, HOW IT IS
DIFFERENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD HAS A
QUESTION.
>> I HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION,
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE REQUEST
IS FOR THIS BODY TO MAKE 2
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE
RECOMMENDATIONS, ONE, IF A
THIRD-PARTY FUNDING IS SECURED,
AND ONE IF IT IS NOT, BUT HELP
ME UNDERSTAND, THE TRANSIT
BOARD ITSELF WILL TAKE THAT
INPUT OF THE TWO DIFFERENT
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES, BUT IT
WILL PICK ONE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> RIGHT NOW, I DON'T WANT TO
SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, WE WANT TO
PRESENT THEM WITH THE OPTION,
AT THEIR DISCRETION, THEY COULD
CHOOSE TO CARRY PREFERRED
ALTERNATIVE PROCESSES THROUGH
IT.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
GET SOME EARLY INDICATION FROM
THE BOARD, IF THE PREFERENCE IS
NOT TO, THAT GIVES FOLKS
BASICALLY ONE MONTH BETWEEN
APRIL AND MAY TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIRD-PARTY
FUNDING, I THINK IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THE
BOARD IS THINKING IN THAT AREA.
>> OKAY.
>>> CONSUL MEMBER GONZALEZ?
>> I KNOW WE ARE NOT MAKING
DECISIONS, I'M GOING TO SIT AND
JUST LISTEN TO THE INFORMATION,
BUT I WANT TO FULFILL MY
OBLIGATION, I HAVE A CONFLICT
OF INTEREST, RELATED TO THE
WEST SEATTLE ASPECTS OF THE
ALIGNMENT CONVERSATION WE ARE
HAVING BECAUSE MY PROPERTY
WOULD BE ONE OF THE PROPERTIES
IMPACTED IN THE ALASKA
JUNCTION, I WILL CONTINUE TO
LISTEN, BUT I WILL NOT ENGAGE
TOO MUCH IN THIS PORTION OF THE
CONVERSATION.
>> THE QUESTION ABOUT INTENT OF
THE BOARD AND WHAT IS GOING
FORWARD, WE WILL BE ABLE TO
BIND THE BOARD, WE HAVE BOARD
MEMBERS WITH US TODAY, AND
MAYOR DURKIN IS NOT ABLE TO
ATTEND, SOME FEEDBACK,
CONVERSATIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
COMMENT ON THAT?
>> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE
CRITICAL PART OF IT THAT WE
WILL NEED TO SEE, IS THE
ALTERNATIVE FUNDING REAL, IS
THERE A PATHWAY TO THAT, IF
IT'S NOT REAL, THE REST OF THE
SYSTEM CAN AFFORD SOME OF THE
ENHANCEMENTS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE
YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOME
SIDEBOARDS AND FLESH OUT THE
ALTERNATIVE FUNDING.
>> AS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL BOARD
MEMBER, I SEE NO WAY I WOULD BE
PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A
NO THIRD-PARTY FUNDING OPTION,
AND NOT HAVE THAT MOVE FORWARD,
THROUGH -- INTO AND THROUGH EIS,
BUT I RECOGNIZE AND SHARE THE
KNOWLEDGE THAT THAT HAS TO BE
REAL FUNDING, WE WILL NOT BE IN
A POSITION OF FUNDING THE MORE
ROBUST, IF YOU WILL,
ALTERNATIVE, FROM RESOURCES
ALONE.
>>> COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON?
>> AS A WAY TO ASSUAGE POSSIBLE
FEARS, I NOT ONLY SERVE ON THIS
ALSO ANOTHER ONE, AND SUFFICE
TO SAY THAT A COMMON THEME
AMONG THESE, THE ALIGNMENT
DECISIONS, ON 22, 45, THE
TACOMA LINK EXTENSIONS, I WOULD
HAZARD A GUESS, REPRESENTING
THE COMMUNITY, I.E., A PROJECT
LIST THAT WAS GREATER, THAN
WHAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE, AND
EACH OF THOSE INTERESTS,
ELECTED LEADERS, COMMUNITY
MEMBERS, KEEPING THOSE OPTIONS
AVAILABLE, AND IN SOME CASES IT
IS SMALLER THAN THE HOURS, A
LOT OF ADDITIONAL PRESSURE ON
THE BOARD ITSELF, A SIMILAR
CONCEPT, TO WHAT WE ARE
PROPOSING HERE.
THE TRANSIT BOARD,
RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT THE PROCESS.
AS COUNCILMEMBER McDERMOTT
SAID, OUR VOTE IS JUST ONE ON
THE SOUND TRANSIT BOARD, MY
BEST EFFORT TO CONVINCE THE
REST OF MY BOARD COLLEAGUES
THAT IT IS PRUDENT FOR US TO
BRING THROUGH, WHILE WE AWAIT
THE POSSIBILITY, OF THIRD-
PARTY.
>> WITH THAT COMMENT, THE
CONCERN IN A DIALOGUE, THAT IS
SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONTINUE,
CAN WE KEEP GOING WITH THE
PRESENTATION?
>> THINK YOU.
>> THE ORIENTATION IS NORTH-
SOUTH CONFIGURATION, AS OPPOSED
TO THE EAST-WEST CONFIGURATION
IDENTIFIED IN THE REPRESENTATIVE
PROJECT, THE DELL RIDGE AREA,
THE STATION WILL BE FURTHER
SOUTH, THAT IS BASED ON
COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, A MORE
DESIRABLE LOCATION.
THIS PARTICULAR ALTERNATIVE
ASSUMES A CROSSING ON THE SOUTH
SIDE OF THE EXISTING WEST
SEATTLE BRIDGE CROSSING IT, AND
AS YOU GET TO THE DeSOTO AREA,
IT WOULD TRANSITION, SIMILAR TO
THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, AT
GRADE.
ELEVATED.
AT LANDER AND WHOLE GATE.
IT ASSUMES A BOARD TUNNEL, A
BOARD TUNNEL, WITH THE STATION
ON FIFTH AVENUE, THE LOCATION
ITSELF NORTH AND SOUTH OF THERE,
AND THE ALIGNMENT WOULD BE ON
SIXTH AVENUE, NOT ON FIFTH
AVENUE, AND ONTARIO AVENUE, AS
YOU GO THROUGH THE DENNY
WESTLAKE AREA.
AND AS YOU GO THROUGH SOUTH
LAKE UNION IN SEATTLE, THIS
ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE ON MERCER,
STATIONS ON SOUTH LAKE UNION ON
MERCER AND SEATTLE'S CENTER ON
MERCER.
GET OUT INTO SMITH COVE, THE
STATION WOULD BE GAYLORD STREET,
BETWEEN THERE AND MAGNOLIA
BRIDGE, A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH
THAN THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT,
ASSUMING IT WOULD BE AT
PROSPECT AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF
THE SCREEN.
THE STATION WOULD BE ON 17th,
THE THORNDIKE AREA, INSTEAD OF
15th AVENUE, AND THEN A HIGH-
LEVEL FIXED BRIDGE THAT WOULD
BE IN THE 14th AVENUE CORRIDOR,
WITH AN ELEVATED STATION IN THE
VICINITY OF MARKET STREET.
THAT IS THAT ALTERNATIVE.
THE THIRD ALTERNATIVE SHOWN AN
OVERVIEW HERE, I WILL REFER TO
AS THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE, IT
ASSUMES THREE POSSIBLE TUNNEL
úSTATION LOCATIONS IN THE ALASK
JUNCTION, TUNNEL STATION
OPTIONS ON 41st, 42nd AND 44th
AND DELL RIDGE, A BIT FURTHER
WEST THAN A -- WAS IDENTIFIED
IN THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT.
IT ASSUMES A NORTH CROSSING OF
THE DUWAMISH OF EXISTING SIDE,
AND DE SOTO, THE SAME AS THE
BROWN ALTERNATIVE, IT WOULD
TRANSITION TO BEING AT GRADE,
VEHICLE AS WE GET TO THE
CHINATOWN ID, TWO POSSIBLE
OPTIONS, A CUT AND OFF DESK
COVER OPTION, IT WOULD BE A
DEEP STATION.
AT THE MINE STATION.
THIS WOULD BE ON FIFTH AVENUE,
THROUGH THE MIDTOWN AREA, AND
ON WESTLAKE, THE ASSUMPTION IS
THE STATION WOULD BE ON
HARRISON, NOT REPUBLICAN, AND
SEATTLE'S CENTER, IT WOULD BE
ON REPUBLICAN.
>>> AS WE GET TO FIFTH COVE, IT
WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE
REPRESENTATIVE, AND THE SAME AS
THE BROWN ALTERNATIVE, A STATION
NEAR THORNDIKE, IT WOULD
TRANSITION INTO A TUNNEL,
LOOKING AT TWO POSSIBLE TUNNEL
STATION LOCATIONS, ONE ON 14th
AVENUE, AND ONE ON 15th AVENUE.
SO THOSE ARE THE
ALTERNATIVES.>>> TURNING TO THE
EVALUATION RESULTS, ALL THE
ANALYSIS IS BASED ON THE
PURPOSE AND NEED, WHICH HAS
REMAINED A CONSTANT AS WE HAVE
GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE
SAME EVALUATION CRITERIA AND
LEVEL III THAT WE USED IN LEVEL
I AND LEVEL II, WE ARE GETTING
PROGRESSIVELY MORE QUANTITATIVE
AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE ARE USING THE SAME RATING
SYSTEM, LOWER PERFORMING IS
SHOWN GENERALLY BY THE RED
COLOR, HIGHER PERFORMING BY THE
GREEN COLOR.
WE ALSO INCLUDE COST COMPARISON
, I HAVE MENTIONED THESE
BEFORE, COMPARATIVE ESTIMATES
FOR THE ENDED AND -- END-TO-END
ALTERNATIVES, WE ARE USING THE
CONSTRUCTION OF REAL ESTATE
CAUSE, THIS IS BASED ON VERY
LIMITED CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, VERY
EARLY IN THE PROJECT
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, IT DOES
NOT ESTABLISH A BUDGET, AND WE
WOULD NOT TYPICALLY UNTIL WE
GET MUCH FURTHER INTO FINAL
DESIGN, SOMEWHERE AROUND THE
2024 TIMEFRAME, THESE ARE
USEFUL ESTIMATES IN TERMS OF
COMPARING THEM.>>> IN TERMS OF
THE EVALUATION RESULTS, I WILL
NOT GO THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL,
BUT I WANT TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A
BRIEF ORIENTATION AS TO HOW YOU
READ THIS TABLE, IT IS TWO
PARTS, ON THE LEFT ARE LISTED
THE EVALUATION MEASURES,
LOOKING AT ALL OF THEM FOR ALL
THE ALTERNATIVES, AT THE LEFT
IS THE REPRESENTATIVE PROCESS,
AND THERE ARE TWO DESIGN
OPTIONS, AND THE CHINATOWN ID,
YOU COULD HAVE A SHALLOW
STATION OR DEEP STATION, IN
MOST CASES, THE RATINGS ARE THE
SAME, EXCEPT YOU WILL SEE
VARIATION A COUPLE OF INSTANCES.
AND THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH
INCLUDES THE TUNNEL, SHOWN ON
THE RIGHT, DESIGN OPTIONS IN
WEST SEATTLE, CHINATOWN ID, AND
BALLARD, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF
COLUMNS THERE, THE RATINGS ARE
SIMILAR EXCEPT IN A FEW CASES.
A TWO-PART SEARS ANALYSIS, THIS
IS THE SECOND PAGE OF THAT
CHART.
>>> I WOULD LIKE TO DIVE INTO
THIS ANALYSIS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THE SECTION THAT DEALS WITH
RESIDENTIAL DISPLACEMENTS AND
POTENTIAL BUSINESS
DISPLACEMENTS, I APPRECIATED
GETTING THE EVALUATION MATRICES,
THAT SHOW A LITTLE BIT MORE
DETAIL ABOUT HOW YOU CAME UP
WITH THOSE NUMBERS, AND FOR THE
RESIDENTIAL DISPLACEMENTS, THE
OPTION, YOU IDENTIFY HUNDRED
AND 80 POTENTIAL RESIDENTIAL
UNIT DISPLACEMENTS, AND THE
BLUE LINE, FEWER THAN 120, THE
BLUE LINE, IS RATING HIGH,
COMPARED TO THE ELEVATED LINE,
SIMILARLY, FOR THE POTENTIAL
BUSINESS DISPLACEMENTS, YOU
GIVEN A TOTAL NUMBER, OF SQUARE
FEET, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY
HELPFUL TO GET IT BROKEN DOWN,
IF YOU COULD GET THEM TO DO
THAT.
>> I SHOULD HAVE POINTED OUT,
THIS IS FOR THE END TO AND
ALTERNATIVES ACROSS THE
CORRIDOR, IT WASHES OUT THE
DATA, THERE COULD BE MORE
DISPLACEMENTS, AND OTHER AREAS
THERE COULD BE FEW, THE
DETAILED MATRICES, THAT
INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO THE
PUBLIC, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE,
PEOPLE CAN ACCESS IT, IT SPELLS
IT OUT MORE AT A SEGMENT LEVEL,
YOU CAN REALLY DIVE INTO THAT
INFORMATION, AND I WILL TOUCH
ON SOME OF THOSE POINTS AS I
MOVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION
AS WELL.
>>> SO GOING AT THIS COP I WANT
TO WALK THROUGH THE CORRIDOR,
AND THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS
WITHIN THOSE SEGMENTS.
WEST SEATTLE, ON THE RIGHT, ALL
OF THE ALTERNATIVES ON THE
TABLE, THE RED, THE YELLOW,
WHICH IS ELEVATED, AND THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVES, WHICH ARE A
TUNNEL, AND ON THE LEFT, THE
COLORS CORRESPOND TO THE COLORS
OF THE ALTERNATIVES ON THE
RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE.
SOME OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS,
AND THIS IS SOME OF THE
INFORMATION YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE
IN PREVIOUS LEVELS OF ANALYSIS,
BUT THE INITIAL BULLET SPEAKS
úTO THE ORIENTATION OF THE
ALASKA JUNCTION STATION,
COMPLICATING A FUTURE LIGHT
RAIL EXTENSION, AND A
CONSTRAINT IS TERMINAL LOCATION
ON ALASKA STREET, A HIGH
GUIDEWAY ALONG GENESEE STREET
THROUGH DELL RIDGE, IT WOULD
HAVE PARK EFFECTS, WHICH WOULD
HAVE AVOIDANCE ALTERNATIVES,
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, IT IS
SOMEWHAT PROBLEMATIC, BECAUSE
OF THE PROUD -- PROXIMITY TO
THE FREEWAY.
IT WOULD RESULT IN MORE
DISPLACEMENTS BETWEEN THE ALASKA
JUNCTION AND AVALON STATION, IT
WOULD NO LONGER BE ON
FAUNTLEROY WAY, IT WOULD BE IN
A RESIDENTIAL AREA, SIMILAR
NUMBERS OF DISPLACEMENTS IN
DELL RIDGE TO THE OTHER
ALTERNATIVES.
THE GREATEST DISRUPTION TO THE
AREA AROUND ALASKA JUNCTION,
AND A HIGH GUIDEWAY ON GENESEE
STREET, SIMILAR TO THE
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, OF SOME
EFFECTS TO THE REPRESENTATIVE
GOLF COURSE.
>>> WITH THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE,
BECAUSE IT IS A TUNNEL, FEWER
DISPLACEMENTS, AND A SIMILAR
NUMBER IN DELL RIDGE, IT WOULD
RESULT IN A LOWER HEIGHT DELL
RIDGE STATION.
THE TUNNEL FACILITATES A LOWER
úGUIDEWAY ALONG GENESEE STREET,
BUT A TUNNEL OF COURSE COULD
INCREASE THE OVERALL
IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE,
REQUIRING ADDITIONAL FUNDING,
IT WOULD ALSO HAVE IMPACTS TO
THE PARK AT THE PORT
LOCATION.>>> MOVING THROUGH THE
DUWAMISH WATERWAY CROSSING DIE
>> THANK YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT
THIS ANALYSIS, CAN YOU TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW REAL IS
THAT, I KNOW AN ANALYSIS HAS TO
BE DONE, BUT IS IT SOMETHING
THAT WILL STOP THE PROJECT,
SLOW IT DOWN, SWAP PROPERTY,
WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON THAT?
>> IT IS A STANDARD PROCESS YOU
NEED TO GO THROUGH CONCURRENT
WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS,
WHENEVER YOU IMPACT PARK
FACILITIES ARE REQUISITION ALL
-- FOR RECREATIONAL AREAS, YOU
HAVE TO AVOID THE IMPACT, AND
THE DECISION ABOUT WHICH
ALTERNATIVE TO PURSUE, IT IS
PRETTY TYPICAL, BUT IT IS A
PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GO
THROUGH.
>> WOULD IT ADD TO THE TIME OR
THE COST OF DOING URINALYSIS?
>> IT IS ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL
WORK, BUT IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT
THE OVERALL SCHEDULE.
>> SO IF YOU CAME TO THE
CONCLUSION THAT THERE WAS AN
OPTION WE COULD PURSUE, THE
GOLF COURSE FOR EXAMPLE,
WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO
PURCHASE OTHER PROPERTY, OR
FIGURE OUT AN ALTERNATIVE, CAN
WE DO THAT PARALLEL TO YOUR
OTHER DECISIONS?
AS A EXAMPLE IN WEST SEATTLE,
THERE MAY BE SOME 4F IMPACTS AT
PIGEON POINT, BUT IF YOU WEIGH
THAT AGAINST SOME OTHER
OPTIONS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
CAN DEAL WITH?
WE CAN DO THAT IN A TIMELY WAY?
>> WE WOULD DO THAT CONCURRENT
WITH THE REST OF THE GIS
ANALYSIS, SO THAT IT WOULD BE
AVAILABLE BEFORE DECISION IS
MADE.
>> COMMISSIONER BOWMAN?
>> I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION, I
HAVE PUT UP THE WEBSITE FOR
LETTER FOR -- 4F. THE
ALTERNATIVE TO THE USE OF LAND,
MINIMIZING HARM TO THE
PROPERTY, WHO MAKES THAT
DETERMINATION?
>> THIS IS A FEDERAL PROCESS,
THE FDA, AND THE LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS AS WELL, THE CITY
OF SEATTLE.
>> SOLELY THE CITY OF SEATTLE?
>> BOTH THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND
THE FEDS.
>> I CAN TALK TO ATTORNEYS
LATER, WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND
WHAT A PRUDENT ALTERNATIVE IS.
HOW MUCH THIS COSTS COME INTO
THAT?
>> THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE GIS
ANALYSIS IS SUPPOSED TO
ELIMINATE, WHAT ARE ALL OF
THOSE ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED TO MAKE A INFORMED
DECISION, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH
THE PROCESS, AND AVAILABLE FOR
YOU TO CONSIDER.>> THANK YOU.
>> I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS
WHEN I WAS GETTING BRIEFED BY
STAFF, AND I APPRECIATED YOU
WALKING ME THROUGH THE
PARTICULAR REQUIREMENTS OF 4F,
I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER, YOUR
LINE OF QUESTIONING, A BETTER
IDEA OF WHAT THE CRITERIA AND
FACTORS ARE, IT IMPACTS VERY
MUCH THE DELIBERATION WE ARE
HAVING HERE ABOUT THE
ALIGNMENTS AND THE QUESTIONS
AROUND POTENTIAL ACCESS, ETC.
I WOULD ADD THAT THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON, AND THE CITY HAS
ITS OWN INITIATIVE, RELATING TO
PARKLAND, AND THE REQUIREMENT
FOR THE CITY TO MITIGATE IMPACTS
TO OPEN SPACE AND PARKS, THAT
IS ANOTHER ADDITIONAL LAYER FOR
US TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND
AND HAVE THAT FRAMEWORK AS IT
RELATES TO THIS QUESTION THAT
WE ARE DISCUSSING.
>> CARRY-ON.
>>> WITH THE DUWAMISH CROSSING,
YOU CAN SEE THE ALIGNMENTS OF
THE RIGHT SIDE, THE
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, AND THE
OTHER IS THE SAME, SOUTH ACROSS
THE EXISTING BRIDGE, THE SAME
WITH THE ENGINEERING
CONSTRAINTS, PART OF THE
DUWAMISH GREENBELT, THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVE, AN ELEVATED
ALIGNMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT
AVOIDS PIGEON POINT, AND
AFFECTS THE DUWAMISH GREENBELT,
THAT IS A POSITIVE, BUT IT
WOULD AFFECT FREIGHT, AND
PARTICULARLY CONSTRUCTION.
>>> AS YOU GET INTO THE DeSOTO
AREA, THE MAIN ISSUES WITH THE
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, THE
ASSUMPTION IS IT WOULD BE
ELEVATED, MORE COMPLEX AND
COSTLY, IT ALSO DOESN'T
FACILITATE
>>> INTERCONNECTIONS, IT WOULD
NOT SEPARATE THE LANDER AND
HOLGATE ROADWAY CROSSINGS, AND
SOME INFRASTRUCTURE CONFLICTS
WITH THE RAMS IN THE VICINITY
OF I 90.
THEY ARE BOTH THE SAME IN THIS
AREA, AND THAT GRADE ALONG THE
BUS WAY, REDUCING COST AND
COMPLEXITY, INCLUDING GRADE
SEPARATIONS, IMPROVING EXISTING
LIGHT RAIL AND TRAFFIC
OPERATIONS.
THE CHINATOWN ID AREA, IT
ASSUMES THAT THE CUT AND COVER
TUNNEL AS WELL AS STATION ALONG
FIFTH AVENUE, CONSTRUCTION
EFFECTS, IT ALSO AFFECTS SOME
WASHED OUT RAMPS, AND THE BROWN
ALTERNATIVE IS DIFFERENT, IT
WOULD HAVE A CUT AND COVER
STATION, THERE IS A STATION
OPTION, LICKS THE -- LESS
CONVENIENT ACCESS, THE OVERALL
CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, IT DOES
AFFECT A POTENTIAL AREA WHERE
MIGHT EXPAND INTO, AND THE BUS
BASE, AND FOR THE BROWN
ALTERNATIVE, IT WOULD IMPACT
THE AREA, COORDINATING WITH
METRO TO UNDERSTAND THEIR PLANS
AND TRY TO COORDINATE THE WORK.
WITH THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE, A
FOURTH AVENUE ALTERNATIVE,
REQUIRING REBUILD OF THE
EXISTING VIADUCT, MORE
COMPLEXITY, RESULTING IN THE
TRAFFIC DIVERSIONS, POTENTIAL
DELAYS TO THE OVERALL SCHEDULE,
AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AND
ANOTHER ONE ON FOURTH AVENUE,
INCREASING THE OVERALL TRAFFIC
EFFECTS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO
COMPLETELY SHUT IT DOWN FOR THE
DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION, LESS
CONVENIENT ACCESS, AND IMPACT
COMPLETELY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO
RELOCATE.
AND IT DOES NOT ALLOW THE
>>> WHERE YOU STORE THE TRAINS,
IN THE EVENT OF YOU NEEDING IT
THERE IS A TRAIN OUT OF SERVICE,
ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THAT
PARTICULAR TYPE OF STATION, IT
WOULD REDUCE OVERALL SERVICE
OPERABILITY.
THROUGH DOWNTOWN, THE
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, AS WE
DISCUSSED BEFORE, AFFECTING THE
OFF RAMP IN THE SOUTH LAKE
UNION AREA, AND A LARGE SEWER
RELOCATION, SOME CONSTRAINTS ON
RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE NORTH TUNNEL
PORTAL LOCATION, MORE
ACQUISITIONS AND DISPLACEMENTS,
AND CONFLICTS, LIMITED ENTRANCE
OPTIONS, FOR THE MIDTOWN
STATION, A WIDER RIGHT-OF-WAY,
MAKING IT EASIER TO CONSTRUCT,
AND A LOCATION POOR SOIL
CONDITIONS.
THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE ON FIFTH
AVENUE, SOME OF THE MAIN
FEATURES, HIGHER RIDERSHIP, ON
HARRISON, BETTER PEDESTRIN
ACCESS AND BUS CONNECTIONS, I
GLOSSED OVER THIS EARLIER, BUT
GENERALLY SPEAKING, THESE
STATION LOCATIONS WE'RE LOOKING
AT, ARE SIMILAR IN TERMS OF
RIDERSHIP.
THE ONLY LOCATION WHERE THERE
IS SOME POTENTIAL DISTINCTION.
THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE WOULD HAVE
A MORE CONSTRAINED RIGHT-OF-WAY,
AND THE NORTH TUNNEL PORTAL,
IMPACTING THE GREEN BELTS, AND
IT IS A HAZARD IN THAT AREA.
AS HAS BEEN NOTED BEFORE, IT
INVOLVES COLUMNS IN THE MEDIAN
OF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, SOME
CONSTRAINTS IN THAT AREA, THE
QUEEN AND GREENBELT, IT AVOIDS
ELLIOTT AND 15th ALTOGETHER,
POTENTIAL IMPACT, TO
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IT WOULD
HAVE SOME EFFECT, THE GOLF
CENTER, GOING ALONG THE EDGE OF
IT, AND THOSE AREAS.
MUCH THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE
TUNNEL OPTION, SOME ENGINEERING
CONSTRAINTS WITH THE LANDSLIDE
HAZARD AREA, AND IT HAS 4F
ISSUES.
THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, A
REMOVAL BRIDGE, MORE EFFECTS,
AND VESSEL NAVIGATION, A FIXED
BRIDGE, IT AVOIDS THE TERMINAL,
BUT DOES AFFECT POTENTIAL AREAS,
HIGH-LEVEL STRUCTURES FOR
NAVIGATIONAL CLEARANCES, WE
ASSUME IT WILL BE IN THE
VICINITY OF 140 FEET OR SO.
THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE IS THE
TUNNEL, AVOID NAVIGATION
EFFECTS, IT WOULD REQUIRE
ADITIONAL FUNDING.
FINALLY AT THE BALLOT STATION
ON 15th, CLOSER TO THE CENTER
OF BALLARD, RESULTING IN MORE
ACQUISITIONS AND DISPLACEMENTS,
WITH THE ELEVATED STRUCTURE
LEADING TO THE STATION, AND
ASSOCIATED WITH THE STATION,
AND THE BRIDGE HAS POTENTIAL
SERVICE INTERRUPTIONS.>>> THE
BROWN ALTERNATIVE, ELEVATED
ALTERNATIVE, A RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT
WOULD HAVE LESS DISPLACEMENTS
AND ACQUISITIONS, IT IS FURTHER
FROM THE CENTER OF THE URBAN
VILLAGE, AND A SIMILAR
RIDERSHIP, BETTER IN TERMS OF
INTEGRATION.
THE BALLOT ALTERNATIVE --
BALLOT ALTERNATIVE, ON 14th,
AND 14th IS AGAIN FURTHER FROM
THE CENTER OF THE URBAN, BUS
INTEGRATION, AND A 15th OPTION
IN THAT AREA.>>> I WON'T SPEND
TIME AGAIN, BUT THIS IS A
SUMMARY SHEET, SO IF THERE IS --
THERE'S A QUESTION?
>> I APPRECIATE THAT, BEFORE
YOU JUST GO INTO THAT, THAT JUST
OCCURRED TO ME ON PAGE 57, IF
YOU DON'T MIND GOING TO THAT,
THANK YOU, I WAS CURIOUS AS TO
WHY ON PAGE 66, YOU LISTED THAT
THE ALTERNATIVES WOULD REQUIRE
THE AVOIDANCE ALTERNATIVE, BUT
ON PAGE 67 THAT IS NOT
INCLUDED.
>> I THINK THAT'S AN OVERSIGHT,
WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THE 4F
ISSUES WITH PIGEON POINT AS
WELL.>> THANK YOU.
>>> THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY PAGE,
ESSENTIALLY ZEROS OUT ALL OF
THE EVALUATION MEASURES, IF YOU
ARE LOOKING AT A ONE PAGE
SUMMARY, IF YOU WANT TO LET IT
ROLL OVER YOU, IT IS WORTH
SPENDING TIME LOOKING AT THIS
CHART, HIGHER PERFORMING, A BIT
OF A FEEL FOR HOW THE
ALTERNATIVES COMPARE TO EACH
OTHER IN ONE PAGE.
THE ADDITIONAL PAGE IN YOUR
SUMMARY BOOKLET, THAT
IDENTIFIES SOME OF THE KEY
ISSUES AT A SEGMENT LEVEL, WE
HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT.
THE POTENTIAL MIX-AND-MATCH
OPPORTUNITIES, INFORMATION FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION, AS DIANE
NOTED, WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU TO
MAKE ANY DECISIONS TODAY, YOU
THINK ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVES
AND HOW THEY COULD BE MIXED AND
MATCHED MOVING FORWARD,
STARTING WITH THE YELLOW AND
BROWN ALTERNATIVE.
AS YOU LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVE,
IT IS DEFINED IN A CERTAIN WAY
RIGHT NOW, AS I HAVE DESCRIBED
IT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE
EXACTLY THIS WAY AS WE MOVE
FORWARD, DEPENDING ON THE
RECOMMENDATIONS, IT COULD BE
MODIFIED IN CERTAIN WAYS TO
POTENTIALLY IMPROVE IN ONE
RESPECT OR ANOTHER.>>> SOME OF
THE KEY AREAS THAT WE WOULD
NOTE, COULD BE LOOKED AT MORE
CLOSELY, INCLUDING THE DUWAMISH
WATER CROSSING AREA, SHOWN ON
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, ON
THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE WEST
SEATTLE BRIDGE, BUT IT COULD
JUST AS EASILY FROM A DESIGN
PERSPECTIVE BE LOCATED ON THE
NORTH SIDE, THERE ARE ISSUES OF
COURSE WITH THAT,
DIFFERENTIATORS IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE SCREEN, DIFFERENCES IN
TERMS OF ENGINEERING
CONSTRAINTS AS WE'VE DISCUSSED,
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO
SIDES, FISH AND WILDLIFE
EFFECTS, PROPERTY EFFECTS, AND
COST, A FEEL FOR THOSE, WE GO
INTO THIS IN DETAIL, AS YOU
LOOK AT THE EVALUATION PACKAGE
IN DETAIL, THE KEY
DIFFERENTIATORS, ON THE SOUTH
SIDE, THE OTHER SIDE, IN TERMS
OF ENGINEERING CONSTRAINTS,
PIGEON POINT, AND THE FISH AND
WILDLIFE EFFECTS, YOU ARE
AFFECTING THE IMPACTS TO THE
DUWAMISH GREENVILLE, AND
AVOIDING THEM, THE PROPERTIES
YOU WOULD AFFECT, THE SELL SIDE
ALTERNATIVE, IN TERMS OF
FREIGHT MOVEMENT, LISTEN
FREIGHT IMPORT TERMINAL EFFECTS,
WHEREAS WITH THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVE, YOU WOULD AFFECT
THE FREIGHT FOR TERMINAL
ESPECIALLY DURING CONSTRUCTION,
BUSINESS AND COMMERCE EFFECTS,
AND -- >> THANK YOU, BEFORE YOU
CONTINUE ON THIS, I APPRECIATE
THE PROS AND CONS, BUT WE
REALLY NEED THE PORT AS A
PARTNER, AND IF ONE IS $300
MILLION MORE, AND THE PORT IS
TELLING US THAT IS A REALLY BAD
THING FOR THE PORT, WHY WOULD
WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BESIDES
THE 4F ISSUE, WHY WOULD WE
CONTINUE TO SPEND TIME ON THAT,
WHAT WILL YOU DO TO DO WITH THE
REAL FREIGHT ISSUES AND
ECONOMIC IMPACT?
>> THAT IS TOTALLY YOUR
DISCRETION, THIS IS THE
ANALYSIS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER,
YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE
JUST THAT, WHY SHOULD YOU
CONSIDER TO LOOK AT IT, IT IS
TOTALLY FOR YOU.
>> COLLEAGUES, FIRST OF ALL,
YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF
ACCELERATING US THROUGH A LOT
OF INFORMATION, WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE A FEW MINUTES ON EACH OF
THESE ISSUES TO DISCUSS IT, I
DO WANT TO INVITE FOLKS, WE ARE
NOT MAKING DECISIONS HERE
TODAY, BUT FOLKS HAVE THOSE
QUESTIONS, OR OPINIONS THEY
WANT TO SHARE ABOUT THIS, START
TO GET A SENSE WERE FOLKS ARE
THINKING, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL
FOR COUNCILMEMBER McDERMOTT
NINE, FOR STAFF TO GET AN
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OPTIONS
WE WANT TO GO FORWARD. I
APPRECIATE THAT.
>> JUST TO COMPLETE THIS PAGE,
YOU KIND OF WENT STRAIGHT TO
THE KEY POINT.
AND IT AFFECTS THAT, THE SOUTH
SIDE, SUPPORTING TRADE, TREVINO
SIDE, TOO, AND SOME WATER
DEPENDENT BUSINESSES, AS NOTED,
IT SUGGESTS THAT THE NORTH SIDE
IS $300 MILLION, POTENTIALLY
MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A SOUTHSIDE
CROSSING, WITHIN THE SEGMENT.
>> HERE IT IS IMPORTANT TO
HIGHLIGHT WHY WE ARE IN THIS
PROCESS, AND SOME OF THE
EXPERTS AT SOUND TRAFFIC, IT
MAKES SENSE TO CARRY IT FORWARD
OR NOT, A FEW MONTHS AGO, THE
COST DIFFERENTIAL, $200 MILLION
THE OTHER DIRECTION, ROUGHLY
ABOUT A $500 MILLION SWING, THE
PROCESS WE GO THROUGH, THROUGH
THE TECHNICAL EXPERTS TALKING
TO PROPERTY OWNERS, LOOKING AT
SPECIFICS AROUND ALIGNMENT,
DOES A LOT TO HELP US INFORM
OUR DECISIONS, AND HEARING FROM
OTHER OPERATIONS THAT ARE GOING
TO BE IMPACTED, TO THE EXTENT
THAT WE GET TO A POINT, WE SAY
WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO
KNOW THIS OPTION IS SUBOPTIMAL,
THAT IS GREAT, AND TO THE
EXTENT THAT THERE ARE THINGS,
THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY,
AND AS WE GO FORWARD, WE MAY
LEARN THINGS THAT MAKE ONE
ALIGNMENT, REALLY CHALLENGING
AND ONE BETTER, HAVING FEEDBACK
FROM THE EXPERTS ON THAT, THE
NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, IT WILL BE
HELPFUL AS WE ASSEMBLE A
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND
RECOMMENDATION.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO MAKE
ANY COMMENTS ON THESE TWO
ALTERNATIVES?
GREAT.
>>> MOVING TO THE DOWNTOWN
AREA, ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE
YOU COULD MODIFY THE
ALTERNATIVE TO BE MORE LIKE THE
BLUE ALTERNATIVE, SIXTH AVENUE
THROUGH DOWNTOWN, ON MERCER,
THROUGH THE AREA, THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVE, IT WOULD BE ON
FIFTH THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND THE
HARRISON AREA AND SOUTH LAKE
UNION.
SOME OF THE KEY DIFFERENTIATORS,
THE SOUTH LAKE UNION STATION,
SEATTLE CENTER STATION, AS WELL
AS COST DIFFERENCES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR TRYING TO
WRAP IT UP, SOMETIMES IT TAKES
ME A MINUTE TO FORMULATE MY
QUESTION, ON THE DUWAMISH
CROSSING, TALKING ABOUT MIXING
AND MATCHING, I WANT TO MAKE
SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING HERE, YOU ARE SAYING
THAT WE COULD CONSIDER A
SOUTHERN CROSSING WITH THE BLUE
OPTION, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A
MIXING AND MATCHING APPROACH.
>> AS WE DESCRIBED, IDENTIFYING
NUMBER TO ALTERNATIVES,
POTENTIALLY REQUIRING THAT
FUNDING, THOSE AND OTHER
FACTORS, THEY COULD BE THE SAME,
NO NEED TO LOOK AT AN
ALTERNATIVE FURTHER.
>>> LOOKING DOWNTOWN, THE KEY
DIFFERENTIATORS, THE MIDTOWN
STATION ON SIXTH, LIMITED
STATION ENTRANCE OPTIONS, AND
THE LOCATION ON FIFTH AVENUE,
THERE WOULD BE MORE STATION
ENTRANCE OPTIONS, SOUTH LAKE
UNION, HIGHER RIGHT-OF-WAY
COSTS, WITH THE MERCER
ALTERNATIVE, AND THE FIFTH AND
HERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE, BETTER
PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND BUS
ACCESS, SEATTLE CENTER, A RIGHT-
OF-WAY, MAKING IT EASIER TO
CONSTRUCT THE STATION, A MORE
CONSTRAINED RIGHT-OF-WAY, LIKELY
PROPERTY EFFECTS, TO BUILD THAT
STATION.
THE NORTH TUNNEL PORTAL, IN LOW
-- POUR SOUL CONDITIONS, AND
THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE, IT IS IN
A LANDSLIDE, AREA, AND AREA
WERE THE BROWN ALTERNATIVE IS
FOR DOLLARS, MORE EXPENSIVE
THAN THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE, IN
THIS CASE, THE BROWN
ALTERNATIVE IS MORE EXPENSIVE,
IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE COST,
MIX-AND-MATCH IT WITH THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVE IN THIS AREA.
>> ON THIS ONE, I'M CURIOUS FROM
THAT PERSPECTIVE, IS THE
REASONS IT IS WORTHWHILE CURING
THESE THROUGH?
FROM OUR POSITION, THE
COMMITTEE'S PERSPECTIVE, IF
FIFTH AVENUE IS MORE OPERABLE,
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO NARROW
IT DOWN AT THAT POINT?>> YOU
SHOULD FOCUS ON WHAT YOU THINK
IS PREFERRED.
WHATEVER YOU THINK IS PREFERRED.
THERE MAY BE CASES, OTHER LEGAL
TECHNICAL REASONS WHY WE MIGHT
NEED TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL
ALTERNATIVES, THEY WOULD NOT
NECESSARILY BE PREFERRED, BUT
WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THEM,
BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO CONCERN
YOURSELF WITH THAT NECESSARILY
IN TERMS OF YOUR
RECOMMENDATIONS, IN TERMS OF
THOSE CONSIDERATIONS.
>> IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS
DOWNTOWN, AND COUNCILMEMBER?
>> MASSIVE CONCERNS, FIFTH OR
SIX, I HAVE NOT, AND LOTS FROM
THE AREAS OF WEST SEATTLE, THIS
HAS BEEN REMARKABLY SILENT, IF
YOU HAVE HEARD SOMETHING, I
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
>> THE SILENCE CONTINUES
COUNCILMEMBER BIG SHAWL.
-- BEGSHAW. IF PEOPLE HAVE
DIFFERENCES, NOT AT THE
MOMENT.>>> AND SMITH COVE, THE
BROWN ALTERNATIVE ON THE LEFT
IS IDENTIFIED TO BE NEAR
GAYLORD STREET, AND THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVE NEAR PROSPECT
STREET, THE STATION LOCATION
AXIS IS DIFFERENT, ENGINEERING
CONSTRAINTS, FISH AND WILDLIFE,
PROPERTY EFFECTS, DIFFERENT IN
COST, LOOK AT THOSE MORE
CLOSELY, THE BROWN ALTERNATIVE
WOULD BE WEST OF ELLIOTT
AVENUE, ACCESS VIA THE GAYLORD
STREET OVERPASS, WHEREAS THE
BLUE ALTERNATIVE IS AT PROSPECT
STREET, EAST OF ELLIOTT AVENUE,
AND ACCESS TO THE PEDESTRIAN
BRIDGE.
IN TERMS OF ENGINEERING
CONSTRAINTS, THE STATION IN THE
GUIDEWAY ARE AN AREA OF POOR
SOILS, AFFECTING THE PUMP
STATION AND THE PORTION OF AN
EXISTING BRIDGE, FOR THAT
PARTICULAR ALIGNMENT, THE
STATION IN THE GUIDEWAY ARE IN
A LANDSLIDE AREA.
YOU NEED TO STABILIZE THAT.
THE BROWN ALTERNATIVE AVOIDS
THE GREENVILLE, WHEREAS THE
BLUE ALTERNATIVE WOULD AFFECT
IT, THE PROPERTY EFFECTS ARE
SIMILAR, OVERALL MAGNITUDE, THE
BUSINESS PLACEMENT WOULD BE
SIMILAR EITHER SIDE OF THE
STREET.
AND FINALLY IN TERMS OF COSTS
-- >> IT'S OKAY, YOU CAN
FINISH.
>> APPROXIMATELY $100 MILLION
MORE, BUT THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE
IS APPROXIMATELY $200 MILLION
MORE.
>> IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE IN
RIDERSHIP?
>> AND REMIND ME, WHAT YOU ARE
ANTICIPATING FOR RIDERSHIP?
>> OVERALL?
>> IN THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THANK
YOU.
>> I AM CURIOUS, I WILL FOLLOW
úUP ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, IN MY
CONVERSATION WITH STAFF EARLIER
THIS WEEK, ONE OF THE DRIVERS
WOULD BE EXPEDIA, BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THE ACCESS
FROM EITHER THE BROWN OR THE
BLUE LINE IS PRETTY COMPARABLE,
DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE
WITHIN THE COMPLEX OVER THERE,
ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THE
ALIGNMENT IS PROXIMITY TO BOTH
THE PORT OPERATIONS THERE,
WHICH MAY DRIVE ADDITIONAL
RIDERSHIP, THE POTENTIAL FOR
THAT.
AND WHEN YOU SAY THE RIDERSHIP'S
-- WE ARE NOT SEEING A
DIFFERENCE, IS THAT BECAUSE OF
THE MODELING, OR BECAUSE AT
THIS POINT IS ALL NOISE, AND
THE BLUE LINE LOCATION THAT I
AM OVERLOOKING?
>> THERE IS NOT ENOUGH
DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF LAND USE
AND ACCESS FOR TO REFLECT
ITSELF IN THE MODEL, WE CAN'T
DISTINGUISH WHETHER IT IS A
BENEFIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER,
EXCEPT FOR THAT AREA.
>> THIS FEELS LIKE ONE OF THE
FEW PLACES IN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM,
WHERE WE COULD HAVE STRONG BIKE
RAIL INTEGRATION, THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO
STATION LOCATIONS DOES HAVE A
NOTICEABLE IMPACT ABOUT
ACCESSIBILITY IF YOU CHOOSE TO
RIDE YOUR BIKE, YOU ARE ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF A PRETTY BUSY
FOUR-WAY STREET,/HIGHWAY, A
VERY DIFFERENT IMPACT, I WOULD
LOVE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT
BETTER ABOUT THAT
DIFFERENTIATION, AS I READ THE
CHART, THE STATION TO THE WEST
GIVES YOU BETTER ACCESS TO THE
REGIONAL TRAIL, AND IS $100
MILLION CHEAPER, IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> CORRECT, THEN THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVE, YES.
>> WE CAN MOVE ON?
>>> WITH THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE,
AGAIN YOU COULD DO THE SAME MIX-
AND-MATCH EXERCISE THAT I
DESCRIBED, SOME OTHER
ADDITIONAL THINGS TO THINK
ABOUT, THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE
ASSUMES TUNNEL STATIONS IN WEST
SEATTLE, YOU COULD INSTEAD
ADOPT AN ELEVATED OPTION,
SWAPPING THE BROWN FOR THE BLUE
IN THAT AREA, SOME OF THE KEY
DIFFERENTIATORS WOULD BE THE
STATION LOCATION WOULD VARY,
PROPERTY EFFECTS WOULD BE
DIFFERENT, AND DEPENDING ON
WHAT YOU DO HERE, COST WOULD BE
DIFFERENT, LOOKING AT THAT MORE
CLOSELY, LOOKING AT THE STATION
LOCATIONS, THE ELEVATED ONE,
WITH THE YELLOW ALTERNATIVE ON
41st, FURTHER AWAY FROM BUS
ROUTES ON CALIFORNIA AVENUE,
THE SAME IS TRUE OF A TUNNEL,
WHEREAS 42nd AND 44th WOULD BE
CLOSER TO THE BUS ROUTES,
PROPERTY EFFECTS, THE ALL --
ELEVATED ALTERNATIVE, BROKEN
DOWN INTO RESIDENTIAL AND
BUSINESS DISPLACEMENTS BECAUSE
YOU HAVE BOTH IN THIS AREA, AN
ELEVATED ALTERNATIVE WOULD HAVE
MORE RESIDENTIAL EFFECTS THAN
THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECTS,
AND FEWER BUSINESS EFFECTS,
BECAUSE IT IS AVOIDING
FAUNTLEROY AVENUE, THEY ARE
GENERALLY BETTER IN TERMS OF
AVOIDING RESIDENTIAL AND
BUSINESS EFFECTS AND IN TERMS
OF THE GUIDEWAY, THE YELLOW
ALTERNATIVE WOULD RESULT IN A
HIGHER ONE, WHEREAS THE TUNNEL
ALTERNATIVES WOULD RESULT IN A
LOWER GUIDEWAY HEIGHT, THEY ARE
GENERALLY FAIRLY COMPATIBLE,
ABOUT $70 MILLION MORE.>>> THE
COST ANALYSIS, AND THESE OTHER
IMPACTS, THE DISPLACEMENTS, IN
THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD,
OBVIOUSLY COST IMPACTS TO THAT,
AND SO IF WE ARE DOING A TUNNEL,
WE WOULD HAVE SOME SAVINGS,
BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE
ACQUIRING THOSE PROPERTIES, IS
THAT INCORPORATED INTO THE $700
MILLION DIFFERENCE?
>> YES.
>> SO WE WOULD HAVE SOME
SAVINGS FROM FEWER PROPERTY
ACQUISITIONS?
>> YES, THIS ADDRESSES BOTH THE
SAVINGS AND THE COST, THE NET
EFFECT IS THAT MUCH MORE.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION I HAVE,
THE BLUE ALIGNMENT HAS DIFFERENT
ALTERNATIVES, IS THE THINKING
AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD STUDY
ALL THREE, THIS GROUP WOULD
PREFER MORE OVER THE OTHER?
>> IT IS YOUR CHOICE, BUT AS
THE COUNCILMEMBER NOTED, IF
THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT IT,
IT IS ALL THE BETTER.
>> GREAT.
>>> LOOKING INTO THE CHINATOWN
ID AREA, CURRENTLY THE BLUE
ALTERNATIVE ASSUMES A STATION
ON FOURTH AVENUE, AND WE ARE
LOOKING AT TWO OPTIONS, A SHADOW
OPTION OR A DEEP STATION
OPTION, BUT YOU COULD CHANGE
THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE TO INSTEAD
HAVE THE CHINA ID STATION ON
FIFTH AVENUE, THERE IS A DEEP
AND A SHALLOW OPTION THERE,
EASE OF ACCESS TO THE STATION,
PASSENGER TRANSFERS, THE
CONSTRUCTION EFFECTS, PROPERTY
EFFECTS, CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE,
AND THE COST, LOOKING AT THOSE
MORE CLOSELY, IN TERMS OF EASE
OF STATION AXIS, A BROWN FIFTH
AVENUE OPTION ON FIFTH AVENUE,
THE STATION WOULD BE SHALLOWER,
EASIER TO ACCESS, THE FIFTH
AVENUE BOARD MINE OPTIONS, IT
WOULD PERFORM LESS WELL IN
TERMS OF STATION AXIS AND
TRANSFERS.>>> FOURTH AVENUE, THE
FOURTH BOARD MIND OPTION,
HARDER TO AXIS, LOWER
PERFORMING.
-- STATION ACCESS. IT WOULD BE
ON FIFTH AVENUE, NOT AS
IMPACTFUL AS THE REPRESENTATIVE
PROJECT, NEVERTHELESS, THIS
WOULD STILL INVOLVE A STATION
AT FIFTH AVENUE, ESSENTIALLY IN
THE AREA BETWEEN JACKSON STREET
AND WELLER STREET, OUT HERE
BESIDE US.>> COUNCILMEMBER?
>> THIS COMES BACK TO A
QUESTION ABOUT WHY WOULD WE
KEEP SOMETHING ON THE TABLE,
AND THE DEEP BOARD MINE, THE
FOURTH OR FIFTH, STRIKES ME AS
SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO
REJECT, BOTH BECAUSE OF THE
COST, AND OPERATING IT
AFTERWARDS, IF YOU HAD TO TAKE
IT WITH WHAT WE ANTICIPATE ARE
GOING TO BE THOUSANDS OF RIDERS
REGULARLY, DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS
SOMETHING, $500 MILLION MORE,
WOULD WE DO THAT, AND WHAT I'M
EARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS A
REARED -- A REAL DESIRE TO
CONNECT UNION STATION AND KING
STREET STATION WITH WHATEVER
STATION WE END UP BUILDING
HERE, WHETHER IT IS FOURTH OR
FIFTH, THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT
I'M HEARING CONCERNED ABOUT, I
WISH YOU -- I HOPE YOU COULD
ADDRESS IT BRIEFLY?>> YES, PART
OF THE DESIRE TO LOOK AT
DIFFERENT DEPTHS OF STATION WAS
DRIVEN IN PART, AS YOU DESCRIBE,
BUT OVERALL CONNECTIONS IN THE
COMMUNITY, WE WILL BE DOING A
WORKSHOP DURING THE SCOPING.,
SOME OF THE TRADE-OFFS WITH
THESE ALTERNATIVES, NOT JUST IN
TERMS OF LIGHT RAIL, BUT
CONNECTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY,
IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY, THE
OVERALL VISION, AS WE HAVE OUR
NEXT DLG MEETING, THAT IS
FOCUSED ON THAT, WE WOULD BE
ABLE TO ELABORATE ON SOME OF
THOSE, WILL WE LEARN IN TERMS
OF ANALYSIS, AND COMMUNITY
FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT, TO INFORM
YOUR THINKING.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION
EFFECTS, THE FIFTH AVENUE BOARD,
LESS CONSTRUCTION EFFECTS, YOU
WOULD NOT HAVE AS MUCH IMPACT
ON THE SURFACE.
THIS OPTION WOULD REQUIRE
REBUILD OF THE FOURTH AVENUE
VIADUCT, MAJOR CONSTRUCTION
EFFECTS, IT IS DIFFERENT, WITH
IT, IT IS NOT AS PROXIMATE, BUT
TRAFFIC DIVERSIONS.
THE FOURTH BOARD OPTION, THIS
WOULD REQUIRE IT DURING THE
CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, FIVE YEARS
OR SO.
IT WOULD HAVE PROPERTY EFFECTS,
AND AT THE TUNNEL PORTAL, AND
WOULD AFFECT IT, NOT THE
CURRENT CENTRAL BASE, BUT THE
AREA THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO
EXPAND INTO.
AND WITH THE BLUE OPTION ON
FOURTH AVENUE, WITH THE
PROPERTY EFFECTS, FOURTH AVENUE
YOU WOULD AFFECT THAT
COMPLETELY.
CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, THE
ALTERNATIVE ON THE LEFT MEETS
IT, AND YOU HAVE POTENTIAL
SCHEDULE DIE SCHEDULE DELAY
WITH THOSE, AND THE ALTERNATIVE
ON THE LEFT, SOME COST SAVINGS
OVER THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT,
IN THE VICINITY OF $200 MILLION,
AND THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE,
WOULD BE SIMILAR COSTS, AND THE
ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE PLUS $300
MILLION, POTENTIALLY UP TO $500
MILLION ADDITIONALLY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON?
>> WE ARE GOING TO DIG INTO
THESE IN A LOT MORE DETAIL AT
THE END OF MARCH, BUT I WANT TO
OFFER THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE
SOME PRETTY COMPELLING DETAIL
OF THAT MEETING, TO CONSIDER
THAT BOARD STATION, THE
POTENTIAL CHALLENGES, COST
INCREASES, IT SEEMS TO BE ONE
OF THOSE THAT ISN'T WORTH
CONSIDERING, I WILL RESERVE THE
CHANCE TO CHANGE MY MIND BASED
ON WE SEE THAT'S WHAT WE SEE,
BUT AT FIRST BLUSH, THAT
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT IS WORTH
CONTINUING
>> COMMISSIONER?
I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THIS NOW,
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND
IN AN EMAIL, THE HIGHER
PERFORMING IN LOWER PERFORMING,
BY A MAGNITUDE OF WHAT, TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF A
TUNNEL, AND AN ELEVATOR GOING
DOWN, MAYBE PROVIDE SOME
COMPARISONS TO THAT MOVING
FORWARD, HOW DOES THE BEACON
HILL STATION COMPARED TO HOW
THESE WILL, IT IS FAIRLY DEEP?
>> WE CAN PROVIDE YOU MORE
DETAILS IS ABOUT HUNDRED AND
5060 -- HUNDRED AND 50 FEET DEEP
VERSUS 200 FEET.
AND THAT IS TRUE FOURTH OR
FIFTH, WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE TO
UNDERSTAND RELATIVELY.
>> AND A? FOLLOW-UP, WHERE IS
THE WATER TABLE ON FOURTH
AVENUE?
-- A QUICK FOLLOW-UP.
-- 150 FEET DEEP VERSUS 200 FEET
DEEP.
>> IT WOULD BE BELOW THE WATER
WITH A MINE STATION.
>> TO OUR COLLEAGUES, I WANT TO
REITERATE WE WILL HAVE A
DEDICATED MEETING TO DISCUSS
COMPLEX ISSUES AROUND CHINATOWN
DISTRICT, AT THE END OF MARCH,
A COUPLE OF HOURS TOGETHER, THE
WORK THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THAT,
TO REACH CONSENSUS, AT THE END
OF MARCH, JUST A MONTH AWAY
FROM MAKING A RECOMMENDATION
ACCORDING TO THE SCHEDULE,
THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT
NEEDS TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND
THEN, INCLUDING ALL OF US,
MAKING SURE WE ARE CHECKING
INTO FOLKS WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE
TO, UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE,
WHAT WE HEARD TODAY IN PUBLIC
COMMENT, NOT JUST ABOUT SCOPING,
BUT IN GENERAL ABOUT MAKING
SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS THE
CAPACITY AND THE RESOURCES TO
DO THEIR ANALYSIS, AND
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE
GOING TO BE, IT WILL BE
IMPORTANT TO ME TO HEAR, AND
THERE IS A TENSION HERE, A
COUPLE OF TENSIONS, ONE IS COST,
THAT FOLKS TALKED ABOUT, AND
OTHER IMPACTS ON THINGS, WHICH
ARE IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT,
THERE IS A SCHEDULE IMPACT BOTH
ON HOW MUCH TIME DO WE TAKE TO
ANALYZE THIS, WE HAVE HEARD
REQUESTS TODAY, FOLKS FEEL LIKE
THEY ARE BEING RUSHED, AND SO
WE WILL WORK THROUGH THAT, AND
HOPEFULLY THERE IS A RESOLUTION
THAT CAN BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
SCHEDULE.
AND WE HEARD THE VERY
BEGINNING, FOLKS WANTED TO SEE
THE PROJECT DELIVERED SOONER
THAN THE CURRENT TIMELINE,
THOSE WILL PUSH ON EACH OTHER.
AND OUR DESIRE TO RECOGNIZE THE
PARTICULAR VULNERABILITY, AND
THE STRENGTHS OF CHINATOWN
INTERNATIONAL, THE COMMUNITY,
AND THE DIRECT IMPACTS THESE
WILL HAVE ON SOME PLAYERS, AND
FRANKLY, GREAT TO HEAR FROM SSA
MARINE, OUR BUSINESS OFFICE
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RELOCATED,
WE LIKE OR IT IS, BUT IT CAN BE
MOVED, A LARGE OPERATION, HAS
BEEN THROUGH THIS IN THEIR
OPERATIONS, AND ATTORNEYS TO
NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS,
COMFORTABLE THAT THEY WILL COME
OUT OF THAT FINE, A DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE, THEN AN IMMIGRANT
OWNED RESTAURANT, WHERE A MOVE
COULD BE DEVASTATING IN HOW WE
WOULD ANALYZE THAT.
I REALLY WANT TO TURN TO STAFF,
BOTH AT SOUND TRANSIT, CITY OF
SEATTLE, AND THE ONGOING WORK
TO GET AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT, SO
THAT WHEN WE COME BACK ON THE
29th, A ROBUST CONVERSATION.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHO'S
GOING TO BE SITTING AROUND THE
TABLE, MY EXPECTATION IS THAT
WE WOULD HAVE A FEW COMMUNITY
LEADERS BE PART OF THOSE
CONVERSATIONS, SOME OF THE
DECISIONS AND TRADE-OFFS WE
WILL BE CONSIDERING.
ASK FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TODAY
TO ENGAGE DIRECTLY WITH FOLKS
DIRECTLY IN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS,
EIGHT WEEKS, I WILL BE
PROVIDING RESOURCES, TOO, TO
MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, LETTERS,
CONVERSATIONS, PRIVATE
MEETINGS, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
SOME CONCERNS ARE, SO WE CAN BE
INFORMED AS POSSIBLE WITH
WHATEVER INFORMATION WE CAN
MARCH 29.
>> CAN I DO A TIMESHARE, IT IS
1125 P.M.
-- 11:25 AM, CAN WE TAKE 50
MORE MINUTES, THROUGH SALMON
BAY CROSSING IN BALLARD.
>> NEXT APPOINTMENT IS 4:00.
>> LUNCH IS COMING IN, AND AN
EARLY DINNER, TOO.
THANK YOU.
-- TAKE 15 MORE MINUTES.>>> THE
BALLARD STATION, BLUE
ALTERNATIVE, WE ARE LOOKING AT
TWO OPTIONS ON 14th AND 15th,
THIS COULD BE MIXED AND
MATCHED, THE KEY DIFFERENTIATOR
IS, DIFFERENT STATION
LOCATIONS, DIFFERENT EFFECTS ON
WATER RESOURCES, COMMERCE,
PROPERTY EFFECTS, COST, WALKING
THROUGH SOME OF THOSE, IN TERMS
OF STATION LOCATION, THE FIXED
BRIDGE CROSSING, ELEVATED AT
14th, STRADDLING MARKET STREET,
SIMILAR RIDERSHIP, POTENTIALLY
BETTER IN TERMS OF BUS
INTEGRATION, THE TUNNEL
CROSSING, AT 14th, THE MIDDLE
COLUMN IN BLUE, ALSO WOULD
STRADDLE MARKET STREET, SIMILAR
IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP, ON THE
RIGHT, THE BLUE ALTERNATIVE,
SOUTH OF MARKET STREET, SIMILAR
RIDERSHIP, AND IT IS CLOSER TO
THE CENTER OF THE URBAN
VILLAGE.
IN TERMS OF WATER RESOURCES,
THE FIXED BRIDGE HAS POTENTIAL
WATER EFFECTS, AND THE OTHERS
AVOID IN WATER EFFECTS, THE
BROWN ALTERNATIVE, AS POTENTIAL
MARITIME AND FREIGHT BUSINESS
EFFECTS, AS WE HAVE DESCRIBED,
WHEREAS THEY WOULD AVOID THE
MARITIME BUSINESS EFFECTS,
PROPERTY EFFECTS, THE BROWN
ALTERNATIVE HAS GREATER EFFECTS,
SOUTH OF SALMON BREAK -- SALMON
BAY, IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC
RIGHT OF WAY, WHEREAS THE
TUNNEL ALTERNATIVES HAVE FEWER
PROPERTY EFFECTS, WITHIN THE
14th AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE TUNNEL STATION AT 15th,
WOULD HAVE GREATER EFFECTS,
BECAUSE OF THE STATION OUTSIDE
OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY
WOULD NOT BE WITHIN IT, IT
WOULD BE ADJACENT TO 15th
AVENUE.
COST DIFFERENCES OVERALL,
APPROXIMATELY HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS MORE, AND THE OTHER
ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE IN THE
VICINITY OF $300 MILLION MORE.
>> THANK YOU, I HAVE ALREADY
SPOKEN ABOUT THIS, HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE PORT, I
HAVE A QUESTION, YOU SAID MAYBE
HALF AN HOUR AGO, YOU ARE
ASKING THIS GROUP TO FORWARD TO
THE FULL SOUND TRANSIT BOARD,
ONE BEING THAT YOU WOULDN'T
HAVE TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL
MONEY, THE ONLY OTHER OPTION,
AND THE BRIDGE, AND THAT IS AN
ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE OPTION
TO EVERYONE THAT HAS WEIGHED IN
ON THIS, HOW DO WE GET AROUND
THAT?
THE NOTION OF JUST HAVING
RAISING AND LOWERING, DEALING
WITH UNPREDICTABILITY OF
SCHEDULES, TO BE ABLE TO SAY
THAT IS ONE THING WE DON'T WANT
TO BE CONSIDERING, I KNOW WELL
AND GOOD THE REPRESENTATIONAL
ALIGNMENT, BUT THAT WAS NEVER
WHAT PEOPLE IN BALLARD OR
MAGNOLIA, THEY CAME TO PUBLIC
HEARINGS EVER AGREED TO, I AM
LOOKING TO YOU TO SAY HOW DO WE
MAKE THIS WORK, SO WE ARE
LOOKING AT OPTIONS THAT ARE
GOING TO BE REALLY SUPPORTED BY
THE COMMUNITY.
>> TO SPEAK TO THAT BRIEFLY, WE
ARE LOOKING AN ALTERNATIVE TO
THE SOUTH TRANSIT BOARD THAT
FROM AN END-TO-END BASIS, IT
COULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE IN SOME
AREAS, SAVINGS AND OTHER AREAS,
AND POTENTIALLY SIMILAR IN
SCOPE, ESSENTIALLY AN OPTIMIZED
REPRESENTATIVE PROSPECT --
PROJECT, AND THE SUGGESTIONS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THROUGHOUT
THE PROCESS, IF IT CAN BECAUSE
COMPATIBLE, IT PRESENTS AN
ALTERNATIVE TO THE SOUND
TRANSIT BOARD, PERHAPS THERE
ARE ELEMENTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT
THAN THE REPRESENTATIVE
PROJECT.>> COUNCILMEMBER
JOHNSON?
>> THAT BRINGS ME TO A QUESTION,
I WOULD ASK YOU TO GO BACK IF
SHE COULD TO SLIDE 74.
GOING BACKWARDS, SHOWING THE
EVALUATION MEASURES ASSOCIATED
WITH THE THREE DIFFERENT
ALTERNATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT
IN FRONT OF US SO FAR, THE ST3
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, IF YOU
LOOK AT THE SUMMARY OF
DIFFERENTIATORS, IS REMARKABLY
LOWER THAN MOST OF THE OTHER
ALTERNATIVES, WHAT I WOULD LOVE
TO SEE STAFF CONTINUE TO
ANALYZE IS, WHAT CAN WE REALLY
DO TO GET THAT BROWN OPTION TO
BE AS CLOSE TO THE COST AND
SCHEDULE WITHOUT CHANGING THE
SCOPE OF THAT EVALUATION, OF
THAT OPTION.
SO THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE THE
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT FROM
CONSIDERATION?
WHAT I WOULD LOVE IN A PERFECT
WORLD IS TO BE ABLE TO SEE
ANALYSIS MOVE FORWARD THAT IS
COMPARABLE IN COST AND SCHEDULE
TO THE REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT,
BUT PERFORMS BETTER THAN THE
REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT, AND A
PROJECT THAT COST MORE, BUT
DOES EVEN BETTER IN TERMS OF
ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE
CARE ABOUT.
AS WE CONTINUE TO ASK YOU TO
MIX-AND-MATCH, I WOULD LOVE TO
HAVE YOU TO COME BACK TO US,
WITH US SOME -- WAS SOMETHING
THAT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE, BUT
SOMETHING SIMILAR IN COST AND
SCHEDULE, WE FEEL LIKE THE
EVOLUTION IS TAKING US TO A
BETTER PLACE.
>>> SO COLLEAGUES, AS WE START
TO WRAP APPEAR, THERE ARE A
COUPLE PLACES THAT STOOD OUT TO
ME WHEN I LOOK HERE, THAT SEEMS
LIKE THERE IS A LOWER COST
ALTERNATIVE THAT ALSO MEETS ALL
OF OUR OTHER PRIORITIES,
HOWEVER WE CHOOSE TO RANK THOSE,
THAT WOULD BE THE CROSSING OF
HARBOR ISLAND ON THE SOUTH STAT
-- SOUTH SIDE OF THE SPOKANE
BRIDGE AS OPPOSED TO NORTH,
THROUGH DOWNTOWN, SOUTH LAKE
UNION, FIFTH AVENUE AND
HARRISON, AS OPPOSED TO SIXTH
AVENUE AND MERCER, AGAIN WE ARE
NOT MAKING DECISIONS, BUT IT
SEEMS THOSE ARE OPPORTUNTIES
WHERE THERE ARE LOWER COSTS,
AND IT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE
NEEDS ELSEWHERE TO BE
CONSIDERING.
THE SALMON BAY CROSSING IS A
SIMILAR PLACE WHERE I THINK A
LOT OF THE -- A LOT OF OUR
NEEDS ARE MET, THE COST
DIFFERENTIAL IS MORE, AND WE
NEED TO CONSIDER HOW THE
PACKAGE THAT, AND A QUESTION OF
ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS WE
NEED TO DO, OR MAYBE THAT IS
BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS GROUP,
YOU AND YOUR LAWYERS, A
REQUIREMENT THAT THE
REPRESENTATIVE ALIGNMENT NEEDS
TO BE PART OF THE EIS TO MEET
OTHER REQUIREMENTS, BUT WHAT I
THINK YOU HEAR FROM A LOT OF US
TODAY, WE'VE DONE ENOUGH
REFINEMENTS, THERE IS REALLY
NOT A LOT OF REASON TO BUILD
ANYTHING ON THE REPRESENTATIVE
ALIGNMENT, THE GOOD PARTS HAVE
BEEN CARRIED THROUGH TO THE
OTHER TWO, AND THE BAD PARTS
ARE THINGS THEY ARE GOING BACK
ON.>>> LARGER CAUSE, CHINATOWN
INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, WE ARE
GOING TO SPEND TIME ON, THAT
WILL BE INFORMATIVE, AND WEST
SEATTLE, INTEL RIDGE AND
JUNCTION, THERE ARE SOME
OPTIONS THERE, AND I IMAGINE WE
WILL CARRY OPTION THROUGH BOTH
OF THOSE FOR THOSE AS WELL.
>>> I HOPE AT LEAST WE ARE
DEMONSTRATING TO THE PUBLIC THAT
WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS VERY
THOUGHTFULLY, AND THE CONCERNS
FROM INDUSTRY AND MARITIME AND
BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS, ARE
CERTAINLY RESONATING WITH US,
AS WE LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVES,
AND EVEN A MIX-AND-MATCH
APPROACH, WE TAKE THAT INTO
CONSIDERATION, AND IMPRESS UPON
THE PUBLIC THAT WE HEAR THE
TESTIMONY.>>> THAT IS WHAT I
DID WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF
THE TABLE, THAT'S WHY IT IS
SEDUCTIVE TO TAKE THE DEEP MINE
OFF THE TABLE, AT THIS STAGE,
YOU KNOW, A MIX-AND-MATCH
APPROACH, I HAVE ONE SORT OF
PROCESS QUESTION, OF ALL THE
TESTIMONY I HEARD, ONE THAT
RESONATED WAS ANYONE WHOSE HOME
IS ABOUT TO BE TAKEN THROUGH
THE PROCESS OF THE EMINENT
DOMAIN PROCESS, I DON'T KNOW IF
IT IS THROUGH THE EIS PROJECT
AND PROCESS, BUT WE ARE NOT
GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS WITHOUT
HAVING TO CLAIM SOME PROPERTY.
PARTICULARLY RESIDENCE, I DON'T
SEE A WAY OUT OF THAT.
WILL WE LOOK AT A RELOCATION
PACKAGE OR ASSISTANCE, A FLAT
OUT EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS, ON
THE SOUTH END, A MITIGATION
FUND, ABOUT $50 MILLION,
BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS, AND
WE LOOKED AT THE IMPACT, WHEN
IS THE DISCUSSION ON WHAT THAT
MAY LOOK LIKE, PARTICULARLY A
PERSON WHO BOUGHT A HOUSE OF
THE TIME, THEIR HOUSE IS
APPRECIATED, ROOTED IN THE
COMMUNITY, A FLAT OUT TAKING,
AT LEAST IN MY MIND, IS NOT
EFFECTIVE, OR EVEN JUST FOR
THAT MATTER.
THAT WHOLE RELOCATION PACKAGE,
WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, WHEN
DO THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN THE
PROCESS OCCUR, AND SHOULD THEY
OCCUR NOW?>> AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER, WE ARE ALREADY MEETING
WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WHO COULD
BE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED.
TO BE CLEAR, WE ARE OBLIGED TO
HELP PEOPLE FIND COMPARABLE
PROPERTY IN THE AREA, IN THE
EVENT THAT NEED TO BE DISPLACED,
THEY WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE
LOCATED OR RELOCATED OUT THERE
COMMUNITIES, WE ARE REQUIRED TO
REIMBURSE BEEN -- THEM THE FAIR
MARKET VALUE OF THE ECONOMY.
WE DON'T KNOW YET, WE HAVE
LINES IN A MAP, NO DECISIONS
HAVE BEEN MADE, WE WILL
CONTINUE TO CONVERSE WITH
PROPERTY OWNERS AND HELP THEM
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR RIGHTS
ARE, WHAT THE PROCESSES AND HOW
TO ENGAGE IN IT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I
DON'T MEAN IT IN A
DISRESPECTFUL WAY, JUST A BY
SOMEONE'S PROPERTY AT MARKET
VALUE IS STILL NOT IN EGG -- AN
ADEQUATE RESPONSE, THAT IS A
TRADITIONAL TAKING.
THERE ARE INCREDIBLE COSTS TO
MOVE, EXPENSES ON THE LOADERS
AND THE TRUCKS, RELOCATING YOUR
KIDS TO ANOTHER SCHOOL, AND I'M
WONDERING, AND I THINK WE
SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE
CREATIVE AS WE HAD TO BE OF THE
SOUTHERN OF SEATTLE AT -- WHEN
WE HAD A MITIGATION FUND FOR
BUSINESSES PRIMARILY, AGAIN I'M
HOPING IN THE DISCUSSIONS, AT
SOME POINT, JUST SOME FOOD FOR
THOUGHT, WE DO MORE THAN JUST
SIMPLY HERE'S THE CHECK FOR THE
MARKET VALUE OF YOUR HOUSE, IN
A MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT,
WHILE $40,000 OR $50,000 IS NOT
A BIG IMPACT ON THIS, IT IS THE
HUGE IMPACT TO A PERSON THAT
YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS
WAS ON THE RADAR FIVE YEARS AGO
OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, BUT NOW YOU
HAVE TO GO, SO THERE COULD BE A
STRONGER MITIGATION PACKAGE
THAN JUST A FLAT OUT TAKING.
>> UNDERSTOOD.
>> WE HEARD IN PUBLIC, TODAY,
AND OTHER COMMENTS, THROUGH
THIS PROCESS, MY HOPE IS THAT
THE AGENCY, AND I BELIEVE YOU
ARE, IS REALLY DEEPLY ENGAGING
WITH FOLKS.
THE UNCERTAINTY AROUND IT IS
ALSO PART OF THE CHALLENGE.
THERE MAY BE SOMEONE THAT IS
READY TO RELOCATE RIGHT NOW,
BUT IF THEY SELL THE PROPERTY,
THEY HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT IT
MAY BE TAKEN IN A FEW YEARS, IT
MAY SUPPRESS THE CURRENT VALUE,
NOBODY WAS TO MOVE INTO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE RISK OF
MOVING THROUGH A CONSTRUCTION
SITE, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT,
SOMEONE MAY WANT TO BE
PREPARING TO REMODEL THE
BASEMENT AT ANOTHER UNIT,
SHOULD THEY SPEND $50,000, WILL
THEY GET THAT BACK OF SOUND
TRANSIT COMES THROUGH IN A
COUPLE OF YEARS AND SAY WE NEED
TO TAKE YOUR PROPERTY, SO THERE
ARE A LOT OF LIMITS TO STATE
LOVE WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO,
BUT I HOPE THE AGENCY IS BEING
AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN, AND
IF THERE ARE ISSUES TO SAY IT'S
UNFORTUNATE, TO BRING IT BACK
IN THIS FORMAT OR ANOTHER
FORMAT, RECONSIDERING THE
PROPHECIES -- POLICIES, AND
ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS.
AND AS ONE PERSON SAID IN
PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ARE BRINGING
LIGHT RAIL TO THE EXACT
COMMUNITY WE WANT TO SERVE, AND
IN THE SAME TIME WE MIGHT
DISPLACE PART OF THEM IN THE
PROCESS.
IT'S PART OF THE REALITY WITH A
MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT,
YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT TOUCHING
ANYTHING, SAME WITH THE
CHINATOWN DISTRICT, A COMMUNITY
THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THE
TRANSIT INVESTMENTS, AND IF WE
DON'T DO IT RIGHT, THEY WILL BE
AROUND TO BENEFIT.
>> THANK YOU EVERYONE, DO YOU
NEED TO CLOSE UP ON ANY PART OF
THE PRESENTATION?
>> JUST ONE MORE SLIDE, JUST TO
RECAP ESSENTIALLY WHAT ARE THE
NEXT STEPS, JUST TO SHOW YOU
THAT SLIDE.
JUST A REMINDER WE WILL BE
DOING THE EIS SCOPING FEBRUARY
MARCH, WILL COME BACK FOCUSED
ON THE CHINATOWN ID, WE WILL
FIRM UP THOSE DATES AS SOON AS
WE CAN, WE WILL LET EVERYONE
KNOW WHAT THOSE DATES ARE, AND
WHAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD
WITH IN MAY.>>> A? QUESTION,
CAHILL, WILL THERE BE MORE
TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, OR IS THAT
LARGELY DONE AT THIS POINT, IS
IT ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT?
>> THE LATTER, THE WORK FOR THE
MOST PART IS DONE, EXCEPT FOR
THE EXTENT THAT WE DO THAT'S WE
NEED TO CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION WITH WHAT THEY
PROVIDE US.
>> I WANT TO THANK EXECUTIVE
SUMMERS, NONE OF THESE
PROPERTIES TOUCH ANY OF YOUR
CONSTITUENTS, I APPRECIATE YOUR
TIME TO BE HERE, I THINK PART
OF THAT IS WHAT OTHERS HAVE
MENTIONED, WE DON'T JUST HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO SEATTLE BUT
EVERYONE IN THE REGION, WE ARE
NOT THE ONLY ELECTED LEADERSHIP
GROUP THAT WILL BE GOING
THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I THINK
THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT WE
DO THE BEST FOR THE DREAD
COMMUNITIES IMPACTED, BUT ALSO
MODEL THE BEHAVIOR THAT WE
EXPECT COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT
THE REGION TO BE THINKING OF IN
THESE TRADE-OFFS, THEY ARE HARD
DECISIONS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO MAKE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU
SPENDING AS MUCH TIME AS YOU
ARE WAS SEATTLE.>>> THE LAST
THING I WANT TO FLAG BEFORE I
HEADED OFF TO MY COLLEAGUE,
COUNCILMEMBER McDERMOTT, I AM
INTERESTED IN US HAVING A
DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD ABOUT
HOW THIS GROUP CONTINUES TO
STAY ENGAGED, THE ON THE END OF
KIND OF OUR APRIL OR MAY
DECISIONS.
THERE WILL STILL BE MANY
DECISIONS THAT WILL BE GETTING
MADE IN THE YEARS TO COME, AND
I DON'T KNOW IF A ELECTED
LEADERSHIP GROUP NEEDS TO
CONTINUE ON, IT'S LARGELY THE
CITY COUNCIL, IT WILL BE
DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT
JURISDICTIONS, AND THE PORT IN
THE COUNTY HAVE INTEREST, HERE,
TOO.
WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT A
DISCUSSION ABOUT A FORMAL
ARRANGEMENT THAT WE CARRY ON
THROUGH THE EIS PROCESS, OR IS
THERE ANOTHER FORMAT THAT WE DO.
>>> I WANT TO ACKNOWLEGE AS I
DID AT THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE
BEEN AT THIS FOR OVER A YEAR
ALREADY, AS HARD AS THAT IS TO
FATHOM, WE HAVE THE LOT, IN OUR
WORK AND MEETINGS AND
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
COMMUNITY, AND IN MANY WAYS, IN
THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS,
WE DO FAR MORE WORK THAN WE
HAVE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE BEEN SETTING OURSELVES
UP TO NARROW ALTERNATIVES, AND
GATHERING INFORMATION, AND IN
THE COMING MONTHS, WE HAVE SOME
DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT NEED
TO BE WELL INFORMED BY
CONVERSATION WITH EVERYBODY IN
THE ROOM, AND MORE PEOPLE IN
THE COMMUNITY.
I EXPECT THAT TO BE HARD-
WORKING CHALLENGING IN MANY
WAYS THAT MANY TIMES, BUT ALSO
THAT THE INTENSITY OF OUR WORK,
AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK WILL
BATCH OF NOT FAR EXCEED WHAT WE
HAVE INVESTED OVER THE LAST
YEAR.
I WANT TO SIT THAT EXPECTATION,
AND TELL YOU HOW MUCH I LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
EVERYONE IN DOING THAT TO HAVE
THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN
TO THE BOARD AND THE EIS AND
GOING FORWARD, WE ALL KNOW WHY
WE ARE DOING THIS WORK, TO
PROVIDE THE BEST TRANSIT WE
POSSIBLY CAN, FROM BALLARD TO
WEST SEATTLE AND CONNECTING THE
REGION.
WITH THAT, THE SUSTAINABILITY
AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OF
THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL WILL
NOW BE ADJOURNED.