>>> GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR THE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON CIVIC
ARENAS.
IT IS DECEMBER 3 AND THE TIME IS
10:06. I AM COUNCIL MEMBER
BRUCE HARRELL AND I'M ONE OF
THE COCHAIRS OF THIS COMMITTEE.
I JOINED BY COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA, O'BRIEN, BAGSHAW AND
HERBOLD.
WE HAVE A FEW EXCUSED ABSENCES
TODAY.
WISH THEM BETTER AND GOOD LUCK
ON THEIR TRIPS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THE ITEM THAT APPEARS ON THIS
AGENDA.
WE MAY HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP.
WE WILL TAKE A LOOK.
JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND AS WE
PREPARE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE
ARE GOING TO DISCUSS A
RESOLUTION AND TALK MORE IN
DEPTH ABOUT IT.
IT BASICALLY GRANTS EXCEPTIONAL
APPROVAL FOR "A CONSTRUCTIONAL
PERMIT TO SEATTLE COMPANY LLC
FOR CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION
OF THE TUNNEL UNDER THOMAS
STREET."
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM
OUR GUESTS AND I WANTED TO
SIGNAL TO CENTRAL STAFF OR MY
STAFF THAT I THINK THERE WAS A
TECHNICAL AMENDMENT THAT MIGHT
BE NECESSARY FOR THE
RESOLUTION, I THINK.
YOU HAVE IT THERE.
WE WILL WAIT FOR THAT.
I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF
ME.
HERE WE GO.
LET'S TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE THE ONE AND ONLY ALEX
TSIMERMAN, THEN DAVID WORDS,
MARIE BATTIOLA AND DEB BARKER
LAST.
THAT MIGHT BE MHA.
SO YES WE JUST HAVE MR.
ZIMMERMAN FOR THIS ITEM.
MR. ZIMMERMAN, YOU HAVE THE
FLOOR.
BE NICE.
>> MY LOVELY CONSULT, MY HUMAN
GARBAGE AND NAZI SEMITES.
ABOUT THIS SEATTLE ARENA
COMPANY FOR MANY YEARS I AM
ALWAYS AGAINST CORPORATIONS
SUCKING MONEY FROM US.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING
IT WITH YOUR PERMISSION BECAUSE
BY DEFINITION YOU ARE A CROOK.
YOU SUCK BLOOD AND MONEY FROM
US.
THAT IS WHAT I BRING IN MY
STATEMENTS FOR THE LAST MANY
YEARS.
GARBAGE RATS WHO TRAIN FROM US.
>> WILL YOU SPEAK TO THE TERM
PERMIT PLAYS?
>> EXACTLY.
I AM AGAINST SEATTLE ARENA
COMPANY.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS
HAPPENED.
WHEN YOU STOP AND SPEND $100
MILLION FOR THESE PEOPLE, YOU
SUPPORT THIS EVERY TIME.
THIS STATEMENT AGAIN.
YOU SUPPORT CORPORATION, NOT
SUPPORT PEOPLE.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS $100 MILLION WHICH HAS
BEEN GIFTED TO ARENA CAN GO TO
POOR PEOPLE, SEATTLE IS TOTALLY
POOR.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING WHEN
YOU'RE ACTING LIKE NAZI GARBAGE
RATS, IT'S EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE.
YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING MORE
PEOPLE.
EVERYBODY WHO YOU REPRESENT IS
CORPORATION. SEATTLE ARENA
COMPANY IS GETTING $100
MILLION.
ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING HERE?
RIGHT NOW, I SPEAK TO EVERYBODY
WHO LISTEN TO ME.
$100 MILLION, GIVE IT BACK TO
THE PEOPLE, CLEANSE THIS TOTAL
CHAMBER.
STAND UP, SEATTLE.
STANDUP, AMERICA.
WE NEED TO CLEANSE THIS DIRTY
CHAMBER FROM THIS NAZI CRIMINAL
WHO SUCKS BLOOD AND MONEY FROM
US.
>> I BELIEVE THAT IS THE ONLY
TESTIMONY WE HAVE FOR THE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON CIVIC
ARENAS.
WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND
THEN I WILL ASK THE PRESENTERS
TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE.
AMELIA, I WILL PASS THE MHA
SIGN-UP SHEET.
OKAY, WHY DON'T WE DO
INTRODUCTIONS AND PERHAPS ONE
OF YOU CAN JUST DESCRIBE THE
RESOLUTION AND WE WILL GO
FORWARD.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MARSHALL FOSTER, DIRECTOR OF
WATERFRONT AND CIVIC PROJECTS.
>> IN THE GRACE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> LIZ SHELDON SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> BEFORE WE DIVING I WOULD
LIKE TO DEFER TO COUNCILMEMBER
O'BRIEN TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION
IF YOU FEEL EQUIPPED, OR I CAN
DO IT BUT ORDINARILY, AND AGAIN
WE'RE NOT VOTING DURING THE
COMMITTEE STRUCTURE, WE WILL
VOTE THIS AFTERNOON AT 2:00
JUST TO FOREWARN YOU.
THERE WILL NOT BE OFFICIAL
ACTION HERE.
THE VOTE IS AT 2:00 BECAUSE WE
REFERRED IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL
FOR PROCEDURAL ISSUES.
>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING
TO ADD.
JUST I APPRECIATE THAT YOU KNOW
THIS ACTION LOOKS LIKE IT IS
SOMETHING WE CONTEMPLATED FOR A
WHILE, BUT I THINK ANY TIME WE
DO THESE TYPES OF ACTIONS, IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE
COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE
PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THE
LEGISLATION AND THE CONTEXT
HERE, THEN WE WILL HAVE A SHORT
PRESENTATION FROM THE SDOT TEAM,
THIS WOULD GRANT A CONCEPTUAL
APPROVAL FOR A TERM PERMIT TO
ALLOW A TUNNEL UNDER THOMAS
STREET.
WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS AGAIN
ALLOW AS COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN
SAID CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR
PLANNING, AND OUR PLANS FOR THE
NEW ARENA, IT WOULD ALLOW ALL
THE LOADING AND BACK OF HOUSE
ACCESS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR NEW
ARENA TO HAPPEN TO BELOW GROUND
-- TO HAPPEN BELOW GROUND.
WE WILL HAVE MAJOR LOADING CURB
CUTS, MAJOR ACCESS FOR 18
WHEELER ACCESS AND BROADCASTING
UNITS, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT
NEED TO HAPPEN FOR AN ARENA
LIKE THIS AT GRADE.
ALL OF THAT WILL MOVE
BELOWGROUND AND WE WILL HAVE
THE NEW FRONT DOOR OF THE NEW
ARENA ON THOMAS STREET, WHICH
IS A VERY POSITIVE PART OF THE
WHOLE VISION FOR THE ARENA.
I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT WE HAVE
HAD DISCUSSION NOT ONLY THROUGH
OUR PROCESS ON THE TRANSACTION
AGREEMENTS FOR THE ARENA.
THIS HAS BEEN CONTEMPLATED BUT
ALSO THROUGH OUR REVIEWS AT THE
SEATTLE DESIGN COMMISSION, AND
WITH THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AT
SEATTLE CENTER AND ELSEWHERE.
THIS IS VERY MUCH CONTEMPLATED
IN ALL OF THAT WORK.
IF THE COUNCIL DOES GRANT THIS
APPROVAL, FULL TERM PERMIT WILL
COME BACK WE EXPECT FIRST
QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR FOR A FULL
APPROVAL.
THAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE THE
OAK VIEW DESIGN TEAM HAS REACHED
100% ON THEIR ENGINEERING FOR
THE TUNNEL.
SO THERE WILL BE ANOTHER
COUNCIL ACTION TO FULLY APPROVE
IT.
>> I HAD A QUESTION IF I COULD,
CHAIR.
BETWEEN THAT ORDINANCE AND
FIRST QUARTER, AND NOW, HOW
ACTIVE IS OUR DEPARTMENT OR
EVEN THE COUNCIL FOR THAT MATTER
PRIOR TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
STATUS REPORTS, WHAT DOES THE
WORKING RELATIONSHIP LOOK LIKE
BETWEEN THOSE TWO PERIODS AND
THE FINAL LEGISLATIVE ACTION WE
WILL TAKE?
>> IT'S VERY INTENSIVE IN TERMS
OF THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS.
LIZ, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK MORE
TO THAT?
>> SURE.
WE WILL BE IN ACTIVE REVIEWS
DEVELOPING THE PLAN SET FROM
WHERE THEY ARE AT NOW, WHICH IS
ABOUT A 60% PLAN SET ALL THE
WAY THROUGH 100% DESIGN.
I EXPECT WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE
MEETINGS AND REVIEW CYCLES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN, ANY
OTHER INQUIRIES?
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE
AMENDMENT BUT I WILL WAIT UNTIL
WE GET THROUGH THE BASE OF THE
RESOLUTION.
>> THANK YOU.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND SDOT,
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.
I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW MUCH
HAS GONE INTO THIS AND JUST TO
REMIND EVERYBODY, THIS HAS BEEN
GOING ON FOR WELL OVER A YEAR
AND A HALF.
WE PASSED THE RESOLUTION JUST A
YEAR AGO FOR THE MEMORANDA OF
UNDERSTANDING, AND THE
ORDINANCE IN SEPTEMBER, BUT HOW
ARE WE WORKING WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE ARENA
GROUP AROUND TRANSPORTATION?
I KNOW THAT THE BIG MOVE AND
LIFT IS GOING TO BE WHEN IT
OPENS, AND WE HOPE THAT IT
OPENS ON TIME OCTOBER 2020.
I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE
ARE FOCUSED ON AT THIS TIME,
BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
CONCERNS FROM SOUTH LAKE YOU --
SOUTH LAKE UNION, CLEAN AND --
QUEEN ANNE AND ABOUT MOVEMENTS
AND GOODS.
CAN YOU DISCUSS ABOUT WHAT
MOVEMENTS ARE UNDERWAY AND HOW
WE ARE GOING TO REDUCE TRAFFIC
IMPACTS DURING AND AFTER
CONSTRUCTION?
>> I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PRIMARY
WORK SDOT HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN,
HAS BEEN COMPLETING THE
DOWNTOWN MOBILITY ACTION PLAN,
AND HOSTED SEVERAL COMMUNITY
MEETINGS.
BELLTOWN COMMUNITY, UPTOWN,
SOUTH LAKE UNION, REVIEWING ALL
OF THAT WORK, AND THEN
ESSENTIALLY GETTING TO A
RESOLUTION ON WHAT WILL BE THE
PRIORITY FOR FUNDING FOR THE
NEW CITY TRANSPORTATION FUND
THAT HAS BEEN CREATED AS PART
OF OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE OAK
VIEW GROUP.
THAT HAS BEEN OUR PRIMARY FOCUS.
THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH SEATTLE
CENTER IS TAKING LEADERSHIP ON
IS THE STANDING UP OF OUR
COMMUNITY COORDINATION
COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL HAVE
THOSE COMMUNITY WORKS AT THE
TABLE WITH US TO DO A COUPLE OF
THINGS.
FIRST, TO WORK INTENSIVELY
LITERALLY DAY-TO-DAY, WEEK TO
WEEK, WITH OAK VIEW AND THEIR
CONTRACTOR ON THE CONSTRUCTION
PROCESS, SO THAT COMMITTEE WAS
CREATED IN OUR TRANSACTION
DOCUMENTS TO PROVIDE FOR THAT.
IT WILL ALSO HELP MANAGE OUR
ARENA ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN
OVER TIME.
THAT IS A MUCH LONGER-TERM
HORIZON TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
MEETING OUR ROAD SHARE GOALS AND
EVERYONE IS LIVING UP TO THOSE
COMMITMENTS.
ALL OF THAT WORK IS JUST
GETTING UP AND GOING AS THE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS GETTING
OUT OF THE GROUND.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I
ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE NELSON
EIGER DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, AND
WE ARE KEENLY AWARE THAT THE
NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LOOKING FOR
WHAT ARE THOSE PRIORITIES?
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BEGIN TO
INVEST IN?
WHAT CAN THEY ANTICIPATE?
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US
TO GET OUT AND SAY THESE ARE
THE COMMITMENTS WE HAVE MADE,
WHETHER IT IS SOUND TRANSIT,
OAK VIEW GROUP MONEY, OR
WHATEVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD
INVESTMENTS ARE.
MONORAIL AND SO ON.
THERE IS A REAL SENSE OF,
PLEASE TELL US WHAT THE
PRIORITIES CAN BE.
WHAT CAN WE COUNT ON?
I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.
I THINK THERE IS MORE OF AN
INTENSIVE FOCUS TO SAY TELL US
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
TELL US HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE
PUTTING INTO IT SO PEOPLE HAVE
A SENSE THAT IT IS MOVING ALONG
AND THAT THEY CAN EFFECTIVELY
FEEL THAT CONGESTION REDUCTION
IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO BACK MR.
FASTER UP -- MR. FOSTER OF A
LITTLE BIT ON THE NEWS WE ARE
HEARING ABOUT THE CORD NATION.
I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH
KEVIN AT THE SEATTLE CHILDREN'S
THEATER AND HE REPORTS MORGAN
LITTLEFIELD FROM MORGAN GROUP
AND SEATTLE CENTER CONTINUE TO
COMPETE -- CONTINUE TO
COMMUNICATE WELL AND THEY ARE
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ACTION
TODAY.
THEY ARE REALLY HELPFUL THE
EXPEDIENCY WITH WHICH THE
TUNNEL WAS COMPLETED -- IS
COMPLETED, MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO
MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS
THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE FELT WHEN
WE GET DEEPER IN CONSTRUCTION.
>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT
UP.
ONE IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF THE
TUNNEL IS IT HELPS THE
CONSTRUCTION.
IT WILL BE AN EARLY PIECE OF
THE CONSTRUCTION AND IT ALLOWS
THEM TO THEN STAGE A LOT OF
ACTIVITY ON THE SITE THROUGH
THIS NEW TUNNEL INSTEAD OF
MEETING TO COME THROUGH.
THERE WILL STILL BE ACTIVITY ON
FIRST AVENUE NORTH AND THOMAS,
NO QUESTION BUT IT TAKES A LOT
OF THE PRESSURE OFF.
THAT IS PART OF WHY WE ARE
TRYING TO REALLY LEAN IN AND
HELP THIS TEAM GET THIS IN
PLACE.
>> IF I COULD JUST UNDERSCORE
--
>> WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP
AFTER.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S CAMERAS OVER
THERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
YES, INDEED I WANT TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH THIS.
WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD
JUST MENTIONED, I AM HEARING
FROM NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
THIS.
I AM GLAD AND I SAY THANK YOU
TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAROLD FOR
GETTING IT ON THE -- COUNSEL
PRESIDENT HARRELL FOR GETTING
IT ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
>> A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT
OF NOT INTERFERING WITH THOMAS
STREET.
THEY HAVE TO ENTER SOMEWHERE SO
THEY WILL GO INTO THE PARKING
GARAGE AND THAT IS WHERE THEY
WILL GO UNDER?
>> IT WILL CROSS UNDER AND THEY
HAVE ACCESS ON FIRST AVENUE ON
THE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH WHERE WE
HAVE A SURFACE PARKING LOT
TODAY WHERE YOU DRIVE THROUGH
FOR ACCESS.
>> DO THEY ENTER OFF OF FIRST
INTO WHAT WOULD BE A NEW
PARKING COMPLEX?
THAT'S WHAT WILL TAKE THEM
UNDERGROUND?
>> THEY WON'T LITERALLY GO
UNDER THE GARAGE.
IT WILL GO THROUGH THE SITE
JUST TO THE WEST OF IT.
>> GOT IT.
WHEN WE GET TO THE ACTUAL TERM
PERMIT, TYPICALLY THESE PERMITS
I THINK ARE USUALLY A 10 YEAR
PERMIT WITH TWO 10 YEAR
RENEWALS AND THE CITY USUALLY
RETAINS THE RIGHT IN CASE WE
NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE IN
THAT SPACE TO REVOKE THAT.
THERE IS A BOND.
I ASSUME ALL THOSE TYPICAL
CONDITIONS WILL BE IN PLACE.
>> CORRECT.
THOSE WILL ALL BE IN THE TERM
PERMIT ORDINANCE WHICH MARSHALL
NOTED WE HOPE TO GET IN THE
FIRST HALF OF 2019.
>> AS FOR THE ACTUAL COST
PERMIT, THAT IS TYPICALLY SET
BY A LAND-USE APPRAISAL.
I IMAGINE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT THAT WILL BE BUT WHATEVER
THE REGULATIONS REQUIRE?
>> EXACTLY.
WE TAKE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY'S
LAND-USE VALUE BY THE KING
COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, IT'S A
LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS
GOVERNMENT OWNED PROPERTY SO WE
GO TO THE CLOSEST SIMILARLY
ZONED PARCEL TO GET THAT, AND
THEN IT'S FACTORED INTO THE FEE
METHODOLOGY BY A PREVIOUS
ORDINANCE.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
WE WILL SEE THAT FOR DISCUSSION
IN A QUARTER.
BUT THEY JUST WANT CLARITY THEY
ARE MOVING FORWARD AROUND THE
PROJECT.
I THINK THAT IS GREAT.
COUNSEL PRESIDENT HARRELL, YOU
MENTIONED AN AMENDMENT OR A
SUBSTITUTE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT
IS JUST CLEAN UP LANGUAGE ON
HOW WE ARE CHARACTERIZING THE
TERMS OF THE PRIVACY AGREEMENT.
>> CORRECT.
>> THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL
TAKE UP IN FULL COUNSEL IN
LEGISLATION.
>> I COULD CLARIFY WHAT THAT
DOES REALLY QUICKLY.
THERE WAS LITERALLY JUST A
WORDING CORRECTION WHERE THE
ORIGINAL VERSION SHOWED
LITERALLY OVG ADVANCING CERTAIN
ELEMENTS.
IN THIS CASE IT'S BEEN
ADVANCED TO ARENA CO., ON
THEIR BEHALF THAT IS ADVANCING.
THAT WAS A MINOR BENEFIT IN ONE
OF THE RECITALS SO IT'S NOT
SUBSTANTIVE BUT WE WANTED TO
MAKE SURE WE GOT IT RIGHT.
>> GREAT.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
HAVE THIS BRIEF DISCUSSION.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS ON FULL
COUNSEL.
>> JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR,
BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE WILL VOTE
ON THE RESOLUTION THIS
AFTERNOON.
WE WILL MAKE THE FORMAL
AMENDMENT THAT CLARIFIES THE
TECHNICAL LANGUAGE MARSHALL
SPOKE ON THIS AFTERNOON AT
2:00.
THIS MEETING WILL BE ADJOURNED.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE
FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A SLIDE
THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS
YEAR'S BUDGET AND THIS
DISCUSSION DOES NOT IMPACT YET,
BUT I WANTED TO REGISTER MY
ONGOING CONCERNS THAT WE ENSURE
WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FROM
VARIOUS SOURCES TO COMPLETE THE
MULTIMODAL THOMAS STREET
PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN
MENTIONED, JUST AS A REMINDER
TO THIS COUNSEL, WE ARE LOOKING
FOR THAT REPORT TO COME BACK TO
THIS COMMITTEE BY THE END OF
QUARTER TWO, SO THAT WE CAN
ANALYZE FUNDING SOURCES AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO COMPLETE THE
THOMAS STREET GREENWAY AND THE
UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK IT IS CRITICAL WE TAKE
THESE FIRST STEPS BUT ALSO
RECOGNIZE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THE FULL FUNDING IS IN HAND.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT
IN THE FUTURE.
>> THANK YOU MEMBER MUST GET A.
SORRY I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND.
WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS
MEETING AND MEET AT MHA.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON
MAY BE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL BE HERE
OR AT THE TABLE SO STAY NIMBLE.
WE WILL MAKE THAT DECISION
QUICKLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
PRESENTING THIS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE VOTE
THIS AFTERNOON.
WITH THAT, THIS COMMITTEE
STANDS ADJOURNED.